SeaCity Museum up for Structural Award

Daily Echo: City museum up for major award City museum up for major award

WITH its modernistic liner-inspired profile, it evokes a city’s rich maritime heritage with a strikingly cutting edge profile.

Since opening in April to mark 100 years since the Titanic sank, it has been full steam ahead for the SeaCity Museum in Southampton , with more than 60,000 visitors passing through its doors.

Now the iconic structure has extra wind in its sails after it was shortlisted as a nominee for the prestigious Structural Awards 2012 alongside some of the world’s most remarkable constructions.

This includes The London 2012 Olympic Stadium, the Titanic Museum in Belfast, Adidas Laces in Germany and Al Hamra Firdous Tower in Kuwait.

Southampton City Council major projects manager Tina Dyer-Slade said: “We are thrilled to be in such exalted company in the shortlist of these awards.

“This recognition for those efforts is a tribute to all the commitment and talent involved in its creation.

“While SeaCity may not be on the same scale as the Olympic Stadium, we are justifiably proud of the transformation we have achieved here.”

Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city.

Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction.

At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage.

The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre.

The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage.

The 2012 winners will be announced on November 2 at the Marriott Grosvenor Square, London and the event promises to live up to its reputation as a great evening of celebration for everybody involved.

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7:32am Thu 16 Aug 12

Northamboy says...

Planning dept has a lot to answer for as allowing that monstrosity to be built alongside the Civic Centre does a disservice to Southampton.

I seriously hope it gets no award whatsoever and eventually gets put back to how it was before. Never happen of course but it's how I feel about it.
Planning dept has a lot to answer for as allowing that monstrosity to be built alongside the Civic Centre does a disservice to Southampton. I seriously hope it gets no award whatsoever and eventually gets put back to how it was before. Never happen of course but it's how I feel about it. Northamboy

8:08am Thu 16 Aug 12

thesaint says...

great design and well worth the award despite the moaning minnies who slate anything original.
great design and well worth the award despite the moaning minnies who slate anything original. thesaint

8:16am Thu 16 Aug 12

Essruu says...

It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.
It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was. Essruu

8:30am Thu 16 Aug 12

Northamboy says...

Thats where you are wrong. I loved the original early art deco look of the Civic Centre. All this has done is take away the clean lines of the original building, it's far too sharp and angular to fit in with it's surroundings
Thats where you are wrong. I loved the original early art deco look of the Civic Centre. All this has done is take away the clean lines of the original building, it's far too sharp and angular to fit in with it's surroundings Northamboy

8:32am Thu 16 Aug 12

Northamboy says...

Essruu wrote:
It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.
Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong.

Am I not allowed an opinion?
[quote][p][bold]Essruu[/bold] wrote: It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong. Am I not allowed an opinion? Northamboy

8:36am Thu 16 Aug 12

Essruu says...

Northamboy wrote:
Essruu wrote:
It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.
Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong.

Am I not allowed an opinion?
Of course you are. What's your opinion of the Louvre Pyramid?
[quote][p][bold]Northamboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Essruu[/bold] wrote: It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong. Am I not allowed an opinion?[/p][/quote]Of course you are. What's your opinion of the Louvre Pyramid? Essruu

8:44am Thu 16 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)? Over the Edge

8:45am Thu 16 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

Pussing boil on the face of a supermodel
Pussing boil on the face of a supermodel Over the Edge

8:48am Thu 16 Aug 12

Northamboy says...

Essruu wrote:
Northamboy wrote:
Essruu wrote:
It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.
Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong.

Am I not allowed an opinion?
Of course you are. What's your opinion of the Louvre Pyramid?
No real feelings either way. It's not in my town and certainly not up against a building built in the art deco style which is my preferred style of building.

As for the sea city building it would have been fine on its own but not butted against the civic centre.
[quote][p][bold]Essruu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Northamboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Essruu[/bold] wrote: It's a good job Northamboy isn't a Parisien; He'd have exploded with rage when the Louvre Pyramid was built, if he was.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more but I think your "exploded with rage" a little strong. Am I not allowed an opinion?[/p][/quote]Of course you are. What's your opinion of the Louvre Pyramid?[/p][/quote]No real feelings either way. It's not in my town and certainly not up against a building built in the art deco style which is my preferred style of building. As for the sea city building it would have been fine on its own but not butted against the civic centre. Northamboy

9:19am Thu 16 Aug 12

Linesman says...

I agree with Northamboy. It is a dramatic building, but built in the wrong place. The Civic Centre is a beautiful building in its own right, but this does not show the new building at its best, and spoils the Civic Centre.

IF the museum needed to be built, it should have been near it's subject matter - near the docks.

Interesting to read that there have been 60,000 visitors.

The museum has been open for four months, which means that the average daily attendance is about 500. Of course, there were more than that each day for the first week or so. I wonder what the daily average has been for the past couple of weeks and whether it has been a 'break even' total.
I agree with Northamboy. It is a dramatic building, but built in the wrong place. The Civic Centre is a beautiful building in its own right, but this does not show the new building at its best, and spoils the Civic Centre. IF the museum needed to be built, it should have been near it's subject matter - near the docks. Interesting to read that there have been 60,000 visitors. The museum has been open for four months, which means that the average daily attendance is about 500. Of course, there were more than that each day for the first week or so. I wonder what the daily average has been for the past couple of weeks and whether it has been a 'break even' total. Linesman

9:21am Thu 16 Aug 12

Linesman says...

I seem to remember that Portsmouth's Tricorn Centre also won architectural awards. What happened to that?
I seem to remember that Portsmouth's Tricorn Centre also won architectural awards. What happened to that? Linesman

9:26am Thu 16 Aug 12

ToastyTea says...

As a city centre resident and walk by it all the time I think it's been a nice addition. The old building was looking old and dated, I mean I can appreciate nice listed buildings but it didn't really look particularly nice.
As a city centre resident and walk by it all the time I think it's been a nice addition. The old building was looking old and dated, I mean I can appreciate nice listed buildings but it didn't really look particularly nice. ToastyTea

9:35am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread. Shoong

9:43am Thu 16 Aug 12

Sovietobserver says...

It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable. Sovietobserver

10:02am Thu 16 Aug 12

Independent Thought says...

Fantastic achievement to be shortlisted, well done to Tina and everyone else involved in the project.

You might want to approach this guy and see if he'll loan Southampton his replica of Titanic's wirless room? http://www.huffingto
npost.co.uk/2012/08/
14/titanic-restored_
n_1775164.html?utm_h
p_ref=mostpopular
Fantastic achievement to be shortlisted, well done to Tina and everyone else involved in the project. You might want to approach this guy and see if he'll loan Southampton his replica of Titanic's wirless room? http://www.huffingto npost.co.uk/2012/08/ 14/titanic-restored_ n_1775164.html?utm_h p_ref=mostpopular Independent Thought

10:14am Thu 16 Aug 12

southy says...

Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
[quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award. southy

10:18am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word. Shoong

10:18am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
*rely
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]*rely Shoong

10:34am Thu 16 Aug 12

tootle says...

Who cares. The award will attract more visitors win or lose and more visitors are needed, always. Thinks it's a nice design, prefer it to the Civic tbh, but the 2 together are a little awkward.
Who cares. The award will attract more visitors win or lose and more visitors are needed, always. Thinks it's a nice design, prefer it to the Civic tbh, but the 2 together are a little awkward. tootle

10:35am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting... Shoong

10:57am Thu 16 Aug 12

good-gosh says...

The foreman deserves the award for getting it to fit together.
Looks to me like the foundations were built to metric and the elevations to imperial. I suppose plumb-bobs and spirit levels were banned to avoid unease among the apprentices.
The foreman deserves the award for getting it to fit together. Looks to me like the foundations were built to metric and the elevations to imperial. I suppose plumb-bobs and spirit levels were banned to avoid unease among the apprentices. good-gosh

10:58am Thu 16 Aug 12

Georgem says...

southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again. Georgem

11:10am Thu 16 Aug 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from. southy

11:12am Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

thesaint wrote:
great design and well worth the award despite the moaning minnies who slate anything original.
I agree wholeheartedly with you.
>
The usual whingers come out to play! Mostly of the Labour leaning kind who seem to have no real vision, ambition or creativity!
[quote][p][bold]thesaint[/bold] wrote: great design and well worth the award despite the moaning minnies who slate anything original.[/p][/quote]I agree wholeheartedly with you. > The usual whingers come out to play! Mostly of the Labour leaning kind who seem to have no real vision, ambition or creativity! George4th

11:14am Thu 16 Aug 12

southy says...

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.
It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.[/p][/quote]It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost. southy

11:15am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..? Shoong

11:20am Thu 16 Aug 12

southy says...

good-gosh wrote:
The foreman deserves the award for getting it to fit together.
Looks to me like the foundations were built to metric and the elevations to imperial. I suppose plumb-bobs and spirit levels were banned to avoid unease among the apprentices.
You look at the building from the junction corner and it looks like an earthquake had hit the that part and that just slap dash repair work.

On the whole its a nice looking building but it should of never been built at that location.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: The foreman deserves the award for getting it to fit together. Looks to me like the foundations were built to metric and the elevations to imperial. I suppose plumb-bobs and spirit levels were banned to avoid unease among the apprentices.[/p][/quote]You look at the building from the junction corner and it looks like an earthquake had hit the that part and that just slap dash repair work. On the whole its a nice looking building but it should of never been built at that location. southy

11:29am Thu 16 Aug 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut.
And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site.
Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..?[/p][/quote]Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut. And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site. Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo. southy

11:30am Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
Southy is such a doom-monger who indulges himself in misery!
He's always quoting this or that but merely spins webs that are never completed with anything other than fresh air. He makes up most of what he comments on here! - He's practised at bamboozling us and himself!
I would trust him as much as I trust Tony Blair!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..?[/p][/quote]Southy is such a doom-monger who indulges himself in misery! He's always quoting this or that but merely spins webs that are never completed with anything other than fresh air. He makes up most of what he comments on here! - He's practised at bamboozling us and himself! I would trust him as much as I trust Tony Blair! George4th

11:32am Thu 16 Aug 12

Over the Edge says...

Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Nothing to do with the administration the building is horrible.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with the administration the building is horrible. Over the Edge

11:35am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Over the Edge wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Nothing to do with the administration the building is horrible.
You what?

' Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?'

Do me a favour...
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with the administration the building is horrible.[/p][/quote]You what? ' Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?' Do me a favour... Shoong

11:42am Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut.
And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site.
Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.
I'm multi-tasking, it was one of those new age 20th century ways of working that you might catch up with one day.

True, I ought to know but don't, and seeing as you know for certain I'm asking you. You said it.

I'm not trying to make excuses.

However, you still have not produced evidence to back up what you've said.

Those excuses I am looking forward too. Backup what you said with any kind of evidence or own up to making spit up.

Think I know what we'll get out of the above two actions...
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..?[/p][/quote]Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut. And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site. Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.[/p][/quote]I'm multi-tasking, it was one of those new age 20th century ways of working that you might catch up with one day. True, I ought to know but don't, and seeing as you know for certain I'm asking you. You said it. I'm not trying to make excuses. However, you still have not produced evidence to back up what you've said. Those excuses I am looking forward too. Backup what you said with any kind of evidence or own up to making spit up. Think I know what we'll get out of the above two actions... Shoong

11:44am Thu 16 Aug 12

chapelsaint says...

Linesman wrote:
I agree with Northamboy. It is a dramatic building, but built in the wrong place. The Civic Centre is a beautiful building in its own right, but this does not show the new building at its best, and spoils the Civic Centre. IF the museum needed to be built, it should have been near it's subject matter - near the docks. Interesting to read that there have been 60,000 visitors. The museum has been open for four months, which means that the average daily attendance is about 500. Of course, there were more than that each day for the first week or so. I wonder what the daily average has been for the past couple of weeks and whether it has been a 'break even' total.
Me and the missus went there yesterday and there were a couple of dozen others as well. That should bump the total up a bit!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: I agree with Northamboy. It is a dramatic building, but built in the wrong place. The Civic Centre is a beautiful building in its own right, but this does not show the new building at its best, and spoils the Civic Centre. IF the museum needed to be built, it should have been near it's subject matter - near the docks. Interesting to read that there have been 60,000 visitors. The museum has been open for four months, which means that the average daily attendance is about 500. Of course, there were more than that each day for the first week or so. I wonder what the daily average has been for the past couple of weeks and whether it has been a 'break even' total.[/p][/quote]Me and the missus went there yesterday and there were a couple of dozen others as well. That should bump the total up a bit! chapelsaint

11:59am Thu 16 Aug 12

freefinker says...

Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut.
And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site.
Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.
I'm multi-tasking, it was one of those new age 20th century ways of working that you might catch up with one day.

True, I ought to know but don't, and seeing as you know for certain I'm asking you. You said it.

I'm not trying to make excuses.

However, you still have not produced evidence to back up what you've said.

Those excuses I am looking forward too. Backup what you said with any kind of evidence or own up to making spit up.

Think I know what we'll get out of the above two actions...
I suspect you will have to wait as long for the details as we have all had to when southy was challenged to produce evidence for his statement at 6:58am Fri 3 Aug 12, that “my Sikh friend posted on here telling you personally him self.”

He makes it all up and he deliberately lies.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..?[/p][/quote]Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut. And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site. Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.[/p][/quote]I'm multi-tasking, it was one of those new age 20th century ways of working that you might catch up with one day. True, I ought to know but don't, and seeing as you know for certain I'm asking you. You said it. I'm not trying to make excuses. However, you still have not produced evidence to back up what you've said. Those excuses I am looking forward too. Backup what you said with any kind of evidence or own up to making spit up. Think I know what we'll get out of the above two actions...[/p][/quote]I suspect you will have to wait as long for the details as we have all had to when southy was challenged to produce evidence for his statement at 6:58am Fri 3 Aug 12, that “my Sikh friend posted on here telling you personally him self.” He makes it all up and he deliberately lies. freefinker

12:02pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum.
.
Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with.
.
Design is of course very subjective
Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum. . Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with. . Design is of course very subjective Lone Ranger.

12:07pm Thu 16 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Surely with all the slagging down from Anti Tory posters & wild accusations about Council workers pay being used to build it( often proven to be false) I went to the Sea City Museum & I & my wife were the only one's in there on free tickets & there were many tourists in there.
This Labour administration would love to put the boot into the tories so why haven't they shown figures to prove Southy's right?
I never liked the new building but once inside it's very good & if the council advertise it there's a cafe inside anyone can go into & this should up it's earnings.
So SOUTHY exactly what are the figures? Can you prove it?
If not apologise & keep it shut
Surely with all the slagging down from Anti Tory posters & wild accusations about Council workers pay being used to build it( often proven to be false) I went to the Sea City Museum & I & my wife were the only one's in there on free tickets & there were many tourists in there. This Labour administration would love to put the boot into the tories so why haven't they shown figures to prove Southy's right? I never liked the new building but once inside it's very good & if the council advertise it there's a cafe inside anyone can go into & this should up it's earnings. So SOUTHY exactly what are the figures? Can you prove it? If not apologise & keep it shut loosehead

12:14pm Thu 16 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum.
.
Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with.
.
Design is of course very subjective
Debt? oh! you're still on that falsey then?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum. . Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with. . Design is of course very subjective[/p][/quote]Debt? oh! you're still on that falsey then? loosehead

12:20pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum.
.
Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with.
.
Design is of course very subjective
I was never a great fan of the design itself, you're right it's a bit like art in that perhaps different designs will appeal and some will not.

Saddled with? That's fine, your opinion, but if it does turn out to be a success will you reassess your opinion of it? Have you been? Give it a chance before completely dismissing it maybe.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Interesting .............. Just to point out the potential award is for the design of the museum. . Not its poor visitors numbers or indeed the debt that we as SCC taxpayers have been saddled with. . Design is of course very subjective[/p][/quote]I was never a great fan of the design itself, you're right it's a bit like art in that perhaps different designs will appeal and some will not. Saddled with? That's fine, your opinion, but if it does turn out to be a success will you reassess your opinion of it? Have you been? Give it a chance before completely dismissing it maybe. Shoong

12:58pm Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

The SeaCity Museum is a WONDERFUL Modern Building. If you visit other towns and cities you will see what Modern Architecture is all about, especially in London. For the forward thinking it is a beautiful building and hopefully Southampton City will be brave enough encourage more Modern Architecture.
>
Design moves forward all the time or we'd still all be driving Austin Allegros!!
The SeaCity Museum is a WONDERFUL Modern Building. If you visit other towns and cities you will see what Modern Architecture is all about, especially in London. For the forward thinking it is a beautiful building and hopefully Southampton City will be brave enough encourage more Modern Architecture. > Design moves forward all the time or we'd still all be driving Austin Allegros!! George4th

1:43pm Thu 16 Aug 12

sfby says...

Planet Southy is a very strange place...spout unsubstantiated opinion, then when challenged it's someone else's fault for not being able to disprove it. Although, of course, Southy has all the evidence to hand, but won't share it.
Planet Southy is a very strange place...spout unsubstantiated opinion, then when challenged it's someone else's fault for not being able to disprove it. Although, of course, Southy has all the evidence to hand, but won't share it. sfby

1:47pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Georgem says...

southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.
It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost.
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Do you even bother reading posts any more, or do you just ask Rahit Maryada to do it for you?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.[/p][/quote]It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost.[/p][/quote]That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Do you even bother reading posts any more, or do you just ask Rahit Maryada to do it for you? Georgem

2:20pm Thu 16 Aug 12

TEBOURBA says...

Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed. TEBOURBA

2:46pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Georgem says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
You should avoid cliches like the plague. They're a dime a dozen.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]You should avoid cliches like the plague. They're a dime a dozen. Georgem

3:07pm Thu 16 Aug 12

loosehead says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater? loosehead

3:16pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
I am sure it will be proven as a money pit.
.
Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?[/p][/quote]I am sure it will be proven as a money pit. . Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants Lone Ranger.

3:20pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
I am sure it will be proven as a money pit.
.
Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants
Could be...

But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line...

If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?[/p][/quote]I am sure it will be proven as a money pit. . Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants[/p][/quote]Could be... But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line... If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged. Shoong

3:28pm Thu 16 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
I am sure it will be proven as a money pit.
.
Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants
Could be...

But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line...

If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.
Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe?
Will Labour actively promote this museum?
So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum?
Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?[/p][/quote]I am sure it will be proven as a money pit. . Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants[/p][/quote]Could be... But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line... If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.[/p][/quote]Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe? Will Labour actively promote this museum? So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum? Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it? loosehead

3:34pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

loosehead wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
I am sure it will be proven as a money pit.
.
Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants
Could be...

But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line...

If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.
Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe?
Will Labour actively promote this museum?
So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum?
Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it?
'Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe?'

Er, I dunno.

'Will Labour actively promote this museum?'

Maybe.

'So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum? Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it?'

I suppose, if it hasn't made a profit.
I think I'd need to be a elected Labour councillor to answer these really. However, there's no chance of that as Mother Shoong always said 'honesty is the best policy'.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?[/p][/quote]I am sure it will be proven as a money pit. . Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants[/p][/quote]Could be... But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line... If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.[/p][/quote]Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe? Will Labour actively promote this museum? So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum? Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it?[/p][/quote]'Shoong how many people realise you don't need a ticket or pay an entry fee just to use the cafe?' Er, I dunno. 'Will Labour actively promote this museum?' Maybe. 'So now it's built exactly what do these people suggest we do with it if it's not to be a museum? Pull it down? but that would be a waste of money wouldn't it?' I suppose, if it hasn't made a profit. I think I'd need to be a elected Labour councillor to answer these really. However, there's no chance of that as Mother Shoong always said 'honesty is the best policy'. Shoong

4:15pm Thu 16 Aug 12

THE BRICK says...

Its what English Heritage wanted, not everyone was happy about it.........personall
y I think it looks horrible and cheap, just like the previous administration, headed by Rambo Smith.
The civic centre is a grade 2* listed building and as such the design of the museum is like a leach sucking itself on the side of a beautiful building. Maybe with luck the foundations will sink along with the museum, without trace!
Its what English Heritage wanted, not everyone was happy about it.........personall y I think it looks horrible and cheap, just like the previous administration, headed by Rambo Smith. The civic centre is a grade 2* listed building and as such the design of the museum is like a leach sucking itself on the side of a beautiful building. Maybe with luck the foundations will sink along with the museum, without trace! THE BRICK

4:16pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Shoong wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
TEBOURBA wrote:
Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc.
What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers.
Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date.
Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.
Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?
I am sure it will be proven as a money pit.
.
Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants
Could be...

But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line...

If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.
Yeah ... fair shout ...... But please not an egging ........ again !!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: Although I think it is hideous, Im happy to accept that beauty is in the eye of the beholder; one man's meat is another man's poison, etc. What I am more interested in is the cost to the taxpayers. Under the freeedom of information act, does anyone know, or can the Echo find out, the number of paying customers needed through the turnstile each week for the museum to break even compared to the actual number of paying customers achieved to date. Is it a raving financial success or a disaster, we should be informed.[/p][/quote]Honestly if it's a financial disaster do you not think that this Labour council wouldn't be shouting about it so telling every one how the Tories had saddled them with a money eater?[/p][/quote]I am sure it will be proven as a money pit. . Labour are going through the books ..... ..... But .... have got to "W" yet for White Elephants[/p][/quote]Could be... But if it's not, be sure to get in the queue for your helping of humble pie, although you won't be first in line... If it is, I might have some pie but if you or Cllr Williams mob try and take any credit, you're going to get egged.[/p][/quote]Yeah ... fair shout ...... But please not an egging ........ again !! Lone Ranger.

4:50pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Shoong says...

Not going to get my facts and figures then.

Boo.
Not going to get my facts and figures then. Boo. Shoong

4:57pm Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

"Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city.

Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction.

At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage.

The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre.

The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. "
>
For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum.
"Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city. Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction. At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage. The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre. The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. " > For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum. George4th

8:01pm Thu 16 Aug 12

lordshill loyal says...

there you go again lone ranger.bleating on again,get a life
there you go again lone ranger.bleating on again,get a life lordshill loyal

8:01pm Thu 16 Aug 12

kwyjibo says...

Southy has a terrible memory, but the chances are that he's just lying when it turns out the facts don't fit his world view.

southy wrote:"And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site."


http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/9672981.
10_000_flock_into_Se
aCity_Museum/

You're right southy, there are numbers, but they disprove your argument.

But even that would be giving you too much credit, because you don't know what's required to break even. And you don't know what's required at Belfast.
Southy has a terrible memory, but the chances are that he's just lying when it turns out the facts don't fit his world view. [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:"And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site."[/quote] http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9672981. 10_000_flock_into_Se aCity_Museum/ You're right southy, there are numbers, but they disprove your argument. But even that would be giving you too much credit, because you don't know what's required to break even. And you don't know what's required at Belfast. kwyjibo

8:16pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Linesman says...

Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it.

This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it. This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality. Linesman

8:21pm Thu 16 Aug 12

Linesman says...

southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Shoong wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it?

Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.
Still waiting...
Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo.
The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.
I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo.

It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures.

The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said.

It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either.

Or could it be you just said it for political reasons?

Could it be you just made it up..?
Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut.
And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site.
Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.
What! Buy an Echo?

Why would Tory BUY an Echo to find out information when he can get someone else to provide the information he seeks for free?

Tories do not work that way.


Delete 'that way.'
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]Can we please see where you obtained this information or let us know who we can contact to verify it? Just so we can see it for ourselves, rather than really on your good and in no way biased good word.[/p][/quote]Still waiting...[/p][/quote]Do you want every one to do your work for you, its about time you got off your butt and do some research, reading and remembering whats been printed in the Echo. The SeaCity Museum as not once reach the daily quota that the Council as set that it would need just to break even, where as the Belfast Quita set higher than Southampton to break even have pass there quota, but then I did expect this to happen that Belfast would do a lot better, because that where most of the World Titanic artifacts have gone, People are going where the Ship was built not from a port it sailed from.[/p][/quote]I work 9-5 unlike yourself and I don't buy the printed version of the Echo. It's not a question of me 'getting off my butt' - you said it - so let's see some evidence are at least quote some figures. The Museum might be losing money - I'm not sure. But you seem to know - so get your butt in gear and produce some evidence to back up what you said. It might not be reaching the quota - but that doesn't mean it's not making a profit either. Or could it be you just said it for political reasons? Could it be you just made it up..?[/p][/quote]Well what you doing posting on here if your ment to be working, tut tut. And theres still no excuse, the echo posted the numbers that pass though the doors for the first few days on this web site. Plus you could all ways stop on the way home and buy an echo.[/p][/quote]What! Buy an Echo? Why would Tory BUY an Echo to find out information when he can get someone else to provide the information he seeks for free? Tories do not work that way. Delete 'that way.' Linesman

8:25pm Thu 16 Aug 12

clausentum says...

George4th wrote:
"Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city.

Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction.

At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage.

The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre.

The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. "
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For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum.
The former Magistrate's Court/Police HQ richly merits its grade 2 listed status.

The bolted-on SeaCity Museum is ugly. Exceedingly ugly. Monstrously ugly.

In 20 years time its ugliness will be universally recognised. Then, it will justly suffer the same fate as Portsmouth's ugly Tricorn, and be demolished because of it's ugliness.
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: "Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city. Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction. At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage. The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre. The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. " > For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum.[/p][/quote]The former Magistrate's Court/Police HQ richly merits its grade 2 listed status. The bolted-on SeaCity Museum is ugly. Exceedingly ugly. Monstrously ugly. In 20 years time its ugliness will be universally recognised. Then, it will justly suffer the same fate as Portsmouth's ugly Tricorn, and be demolished because of it's ugliness. clausentum

8:40pm Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it.

This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.
"It would not have been built by a Labour administration"
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You're probably correct.
Labour is not noted for building anything!
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The whole philosophy of Labour is to spend spend spend spend! That sounds fine until you realise they end up with absolutely nothing to show for it!
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The last Labour government spent massive sums of money. On what? Oh, things like doubling the salaries and pension commitment of Doctors etc etc etc.
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There is no record of any investment that was to benefit the country.
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We ended up £600 Billion in debt BEFORE the financial crisis. Even the Ex Labour Government Ministers now admit they got it wrong!
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Southampton had 25 years of no investment, mostly under Labour, prior to the Tories taking over. Labour results? Any youngster with a good education left Southampton for opportunities elsewhere! The Tories started the ball rolling on investment (in the most terrible of economic climates) and then the wonderful Labour voters of Southampton voted their party in - talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
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This current council is in turmoil! It lost a cabinet minister on the eve of the election and one resigned straight after the election! It is has carried on from there unabated! It is quite clear that the councillors are arguing amongst themselves and at the same time, with the unions!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it. This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.[/p][/quote]"It would not have been built by a Labour administration" > You're probably correct. Labour is not noted for building anything! > The whole philosophy of Labour is to spend spend spend spend! That sounds fine until you realise they end up with absolutely nothing to show for it! > The last Labour government spent massive sums of money. On what? Oh, things like doubling the salaries and pension commitment of Doctors etc etc etc. > There is no record of any investment that was to benefit the country. > We ended up £600 Billion in debt BEFORE the financial crisis. Even the Ex Labour Government Ministers now admit they got it wrong! > Southampton had 25 years of no investment, mostly under Labour, prior to the Tories taking over. Labour results? Any youngster with a good education left Southampton for opportunities elsewhere! The Tories started the ball rolling on investment (in the most terrible of economic climates) and then the wonderful Labour voters of Southampton voted their party in - talk about shooting yourself in the foot! > This current council is in turmoil! It lost a cabinet minister on the eve of the election and one resigned straight after the election! It is has carried on from there unabated! It is quite clear that the councillors are arguing amongst themselves and at the same time, with the unions! George4th

8:49pm Thu 16 Aug 12

George4th says...

clausentum wrote:
George4th wrote:
"Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city.

Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction.

At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage.

The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre.

The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. "
>
For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum.
The former Magistrate's Court/Police HQ richly merits its grade 2 listed status.

The bolted-on SeaCity Museum is ugly. Exceedingly ugly. Monstrously ugly.

In 20 years time its ugliness will be universally recognised. Then, it will justly suffer the same fate as Portsmouth's ugly Tricorn, and be demolished because of it's ugliness.
Look around the UK at modern buildings - get a feel for it - this is a very good piece of architecture - hence why it is in for an award.
>
It's a shame that the Civic Centre is a grade 2 listed building because it is a poor use of space in a modern City. A new building could mean all council staff working in one building instead of the expense of staff being scattered all over the place! But hey, that's just me thinking out loud!
[quote][p][bold]clausentum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: "Award sponsors, the Institution of Structural Engineers, have recognised SeaCity Museum’s focus on the unique and considerable maritime history while playing its part in a cultural regeneration at the heart of the city. Also singled out was the transformation and extension of Southampton’s Grade II listed former magistrates’ courts and police headquarters into a major cultural and heritage attraction. At its opening in April this year, exactly a hundred years to the day the Titanic set sail, the museum showed off its 2,500-strong collection of documents, recordings and artefacts from the ill-fated voyage. The museum was built alongside the renovation of the Southampton Civic Centre. The northern façade of the building features a bold new exhibition pavilion in which to display Southampton’s rich and varied aquatic heritage. " > For the SeaCity Museum to be in the running for a prestigious award in competition with other amazing designs from around the globe is a major feather in our cap. The citizens of the Southampton should be proud that their City has achieved this recognition and thank the people who conceived and built this wonderful Museum.[/p][/quote]The former Magistrate's Court/Police HQ richly merits its grade 2 listed status. The bolted-on SeaCity Museum is ugly. Exceedingly ugly. Monstrously ugly. In 20 years time its ugliness will be universally recognised. Then, it will justly suffer the same fate as Portsmouth's ugly Tricorn, and be demolished because of it's ugliness.[/p][/quote]Look around the UK at modern buildings - get a feel for it - this is a very good piece of architecture - hence why it is in for an award. > It's a shame that the Civic Centre is a grade 2 listed building because it is a poor use of space in a modern City. A new building could mean all council staff working in one building instead of the expense of staff being scattered all over the place! But hey, that's just me thinking out loud! George4th

8:57pm Thu 16 Aug 12

clausentum says...

"Look around the UK at modern buildings - get a feel for it -"

An unnecessary patronising comment.

I'm familiar with many modern buildings particularly those that represent stunning architectural design and possess the dazzling ability to lift the human spirit.

The issue I have with this particular building is not the fact it is modern in design but simply ugly. The definition of "ugliness"can be applied to both old or modern buildings alike.
"Look around the UK at modern buildings - get a feel for it -" An unnecessary patronising comment. I'm familiar with many modern buildings particularly those that represent stunning architectural design and possess the dazzling ability to lift the human spirit. The issue I have with this particular building is not the fact it is modern in design but simply ugly. The definition of "ugliness"can be applied to both old or modern buildings alike. clausentum

9:03pm Thu 16 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it.

This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.
Really the same Labour council that wants to put extra people on the dole to restore pay to people over £17,500 & if the unions had seen sense over £22,000?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it. This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.[/p][/quote]Really the same Labour council that wants to put extra people on the dole to restore pay to people over £17,500 & if the unions had seen sense over £22,000? loosehead

10:53pm Thu 16 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it.

This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.
Really the same Labour council that wants to put extra people on the dole to restore pay to people over £17,500 & if the unions had seen sense over £22,000?
The fact it is a "Labour" council so to speak probably isn't relevant, if it was a "Communist" Council, there are still things that have to be addressed and there isn't much room for manoeuver I guess. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess, the building design is a little bit different but not as bad as some carbuncles!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]It would not have been built by a Labour administration if it had meant making people out of work and cutting their salaries to pay for it. This is a Royston Smith dream, which shows he was out of touch with reality.[/p][/quote]Really the same Labour council that wants to put extra people on the dole to restore pay to people over £17,500 & if the unions had seen sense over £22,000?[/p][/quote]The fact it is a "Labour" council so to speak probably isn't relevant, if it was a "Communist" Council, there are still things that have to be addressed and there isn't much room for manoeuver I guess. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess, the building design is a little bit different but not as bad as some carbuncles! OSPREYSAINT

8:13am Fri 17 Aug 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why would a Labour administration have built it?
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Why would a Labour administration have built it? Ant Smoking MP

9:00am Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why would a Labour administration have built it?
Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city?
Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING
[quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Why would a Labour administration have built it?[/p][/quote]Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city? Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING loosehead

9:05am Fri 17 Aug 12

pod says...

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous.
When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ?
Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.
Thats if it is stays that long.

Linesman
SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.
But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.
It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost.
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Do you even bother reading posts any more, or do you just ask Rahit Maryada to do it for you?
thank you, it has worked again
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: It's a magnificent design, but its juxtaposition to the older building makes it look like aliens were involved somehow. Yes it is jarring and incongruous. When Pei's pyramid at the Louvre was new (1988), I recall that it received some negative reviews by critics. Is anyone aware of what the critics' views are now ? Maybe after 50 years SeaCity Museum will be quoted as acceptable, and after 100 years be respectable.[/p][/quote]Thats if it is stays that long. Linesman SeaCity Museum is all ready running at a lost, where as the one in Belfast is making a profit, I will not be surprise to see Belfast win this award.[/p][/quote]But profits are bad anyway, right Comrade? So it all works out in the end. The Museum of the People won't win an award, and everything is right with the world again.[/p][/quote]It proves that the Tory Council was wasting tax payers money on white elephants, they was even warned by the Travling Titanic Museum that it would make a lost.[/p][/quote]That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Do you even bother reading posts any more, or do you just ask Rahit Maryada to do it for you?[/p][/quote]thank you, it has worked again pod

5:31pm Fri 17 Aug 12

TEBOURBA says...

I believe every home was sent a "get in free pass" to the museum.
If the population of Southampton is say, for ease of maths, 240,000 and the Echo quotes 60,000 visitors to date, doesn't that mean that at the very least,180,000 or 75% of Sotonians have spurned the chance to get in for nothing?
It is hardly likely that the missing 180,000 will be clamouring to stump up the full admission price and the 60,000 who have already visited, will want to visit again in the near future.
So where will the paying customers come from??
Can the Echo, in its role as the voice of Southampton, find out and publish the number of PAYING customers that have attended the museum, per week, since its opening and the number of PAYING customers required per week for it to break even.
I think this is a reasonable and simple question both to ask and to answer.
My experience of most new enterprises, particularly local ones, (we are not talking of Disney World) is that they attract large numbers during the first few months of opening, which gradually reduce as the novelty wears off.
Leaving the freebies to one side, I would therefore expect the PAYING attendance during the first 4 or 5 months of opening to be much higher than the average, thereby painting a a rosier picture.
I believe every home was sent a "get in free pass" to the museum. If the population of Southampton is say, for ease of maths, 240,000 and the Echo quotes 60,000 visitors to date, doesn't that mean that at the very least,180,000 or 75% of Sotonians have spurned the chance to get in for nothing? It is hardly likely that the missing 180,000 will be clamouring to stump up the full admission price and the 60,000 who have already visited, will want to visit again in the near future. So where will the paying customers come from?? Can the Echo, in its role as the voice of Southampton, find out and publish the number of PAYING customers that have attended the museum, per week, since its opening and the number of PAYING customers required per week for it to break even. I think this is a reasonable and simple question both to ask and to answer. My experience of most new enterprises, particularly local ones, (we are not talking of Disney World) is that they attract large numbers during the first few months of opening, which gradually reduce as the novelty wears off. Leaving the freebies to one side, I would therefore expect the PAYING attendance during the first 4 or 5 months of opening to be much higher than the average, thereby painting a a rosier picture. TEBOURBA

8:23pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

I don't care what Southy says on this one, I like the Museum both inside and outside, it's different and extremely interesting. Next I want to see that Aviation and Transport Museum resurected down on the dockside to give us something really good to go to. Solent Sky I am afraid is past its sell by date and its present location is a hopeless case. There are still untapped gems of architecture all over the City that need highlighting and made accesible.
I don't care what Southy says on this one, I like the Museum both inside and outside, it's different and extremely interesting. Next I want to see that Aviation and Transport Museum resurected down on the dockside to give us something really good to go to. Solent Sky I am afraid is past its sell by date and its present location is a hopeless case. There are still untapped gems of architecture all over the City that need highlighting and made accesible. OSPREYSAINT

8:26pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
I believe every home was sent a "get in free pass" to the museum.
If the population of Southampton is say, for ease of maths, 240,000 and the Echo quotes 60,000 visitors to date, doesn't that mean that at the very least,180,000 or 75% of Sotonians have spurned the chance to get in for nothing?

It is hardly likely that the missing 180,000 will be clamouring to stump up the full admission price and the 60,000 who have already visited, will want to visit again in the near future.
So where will the paying customers come from??
Can the Echo, in its role as the voice of Southampton, find out and publish the number of PAYING customers that have attended the museum, per week, since its opening and the number of PAYING customers required per week for it to break even.
I think this is a reasonable and simple question both to ask and to answer.
My experience of most new enterprises, particularly local ones, (we are not talking of Disney World) is that they attract large numbers during the first few months of opening, which gradually reduce as the novelty wears off.
Leaving the freebies to one side, I would therefore expect the PAYING attendance during the first 4 or 5 months of opening to be much higher than the average, thereby painting a a rosier picture.
I received the Freebee but opted to pay, and was well satisfied.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: I believe every home was sent a "get in free pass" to the museum. If the population of Southampton is say, for ease of maths, 240,000 and the Echo quotes 60,000 visitors to date, doesn't that mean that at the very least,180,000 or 75% of Sotonians have spurned the chance to get in for nothing? It is hardly likely that the missing 180,000 will be clamouring to stump up the full admission price and the 60,000 who have already visited, will want to visit again in the near future. So where will the paying customers come from?? Can the Echo, in its role as the voice of Southampton, find out and publish the number of PAYING customers that have attended the museum, per week, since its opening and the number of PAYING customers required per week for it to break even. I think this is a reasonable and simple question both to ask and to answer. My experience of most new enterprises, particularly local ones, (we are not talking of Disney World) is that they attract large numbers during the first few months of opening, which gradually reduce as the novelty wears off. Leaving the freebies to one side, I would therefore expect the PAYING attendance during the first 4 or 5 months of opening to be much higher than the average, thereby painting a a rosier picture.[/p][/quote]I received the Freebee but opted to pay, and was well satisfied. OSPREYSAINT

8:28pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why would a Labour administration have built it?
Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city?
Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING
LH Can you quote the dates when Labour were in power to make it easier for me to Google for the information? Thanks
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Why would a Labour administration have built it?[/p][/quote]Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city? Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING[/p][/quote]LH Can you quote the dates when Labour were in power to make it easier for me to Google for the information? Thanks OSPREYSAINT

9:46pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel.

Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award.

Happened to cost us a pretty packet too.

Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket?

How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?
I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
Why would a Labour administration have built it?
Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city?
Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING
LH Can you quote the dates when Labour were in power to make it easier for me to Google for the information? Thanks
Osprey please tell me then exactly what besides a Football stadium which if I'm correct we the tax payers stumped up £1million to find a suitable site but was built with private money did June Bridles council build for this city?
West Quay & Asda's were already signed sealed deals done by the previous Tory administration so if you can show me I will apologise
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: I compare it to a pussing boil of the face of a supermodel. Horrible monstrosity that shouldn't win a raffle let alone a Structural award. Happened to cost us a pretty packet too. Of the 60,000 how went in free using Royston's electoral bribe ticket? How many councillors will be attending the awards ceremony (at our expense)?[/p][/quote]I suspect if it was built by a Labour administration it would be the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]Why would a Labour administration have built it?[/p][/quote]Excatly what did Labour ever build? what did they ever do to benefit the people of this city? Good question Ant nice to see you're realising what Labour has done for this city NOTHING[/p][/quote]LH Can you quote the dates when Labour were in power to make it easier for me to Google for the information? Thanks[/p][/quote]Osprey please tell me then exactly what besides a Football stadium which if I'm correct we the tax payers stumped up £1million to find a suitable site but was built with private money did June Bridles council build for this city? West Quay & Asda's were already signed sealed deals done by the previous Tory administration so if you can show me I will apologise loosehead

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