Southampton City Council planning to pipe heat from Marchwood Incinerator

Plan to pipe heating to city from incinerator

Plan to pipe heating to city from incinerator

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AN AMBITIOUS green scheme to pipe cheap heat under Southampton Water and the River Test to homes and businesses has been unveiled by the city council leader.

Councillor Richard Williams wants to turn the Marchwood incinerator into a 40-megawatt power station in a grand vision to boost the city’s green economy.

Waste heat from the dome-shaped waste burner on the Waterside could be captured and piped underwater to the docks or other parts of the city.

It would be sold on to help plug the council’s growing budget deficit.

Cllr Williams plans to raise the estimated £15m to pay for it by issuing a joint council bond with a club of other authorities with like-minded green schemes including Eastleigh , Portsmouth, Oxford, Reading and Isle of Wight. Talks have already taken place with those councils.

Cllr Williams hopes to raise more than £100m to be shared among the councils from city investors or pension funds. It could be further matched by unspent European Union regional development cash, he said.

The city’s general hospital, which Cllr Williams said had energy demands greater than Romsey , will be targeted as a possible major customer.

Cllr Williams said councils had to seek new financing to provide the “sustainable revenue” in the face of year on year cuts and wanted the council to become an “energy trader”.

He said: “There is significant energy generation potential from turning waste heat into district heat. It’s fairly common in other European countries.

“The Government want to see local authorities take responsibility for their own actions, and that’s exactly want I want to do.”

Cllr Williams said the vision had been shared with Southampton docks director Doug Morrison, who saw it as an “opportunity”.

The heat could be piped to Millbrook and Redbridge through the docks, to Weston or around Mayflower Park , he said. A full business case will be put together over the coming year.

Cllr Williams also plans to put solar panels on the roofs of nearly 1,000 council owned buildings and and team up with the big energy companies to “green wall” all council housing with better insulation.

It comes as Southampton’s council housing heating bill is set to rise from £4m this year to about £10m over the next ten years, leaving the council with a £4m plus deficit without action to cut costs. Tenants already face an 18 per cent hike in their heating bills this October.

The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.

A long established gas fired and geothermal district heating network in Southampton already supplies some homes and over 100 commercial buildings around the city centre such as Ikea and WestQuay shopping centre.

The district energy scheme uses about 10MW of heat - a quarter of that produced by the incinerator in the waste combustion process.

The Marchwood incinerator opened five years ago to burn Hampshire’s waste and generate electricity. It can burn up to 165,000 tonnes of household black bag waste each year.

It is managed by Veolia under a 28-year contract with Hampshire County Council, Southampton City Council and Portsmouth City Council.

Veolia said it chose to produce electricity production rather than generating combined heat and power because there are no residential developments close enough to Marchwood to use the heat. But the company said the technology was in place at the site to use the heat.

A Veolia Environmental Services spokeswoman said: “We are aware of Southampton City Council’s interest in expanding its district heating network and the Marchwood Energy Recovery Facility has been designed to provide both heat and power.

"We therefore broadly support the principle to continue to evaluate the potential for the ERF to supply heat to the Southampton network in the future.”

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11:01am Fri 17 Aug 12

southy says...

Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power. southy
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11:29am Fri 17 Aug 12

sarfhamton says...

Great idea, better than being reliant on Gas
Great idea, better than being reliant on Gas sarfhamton
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12:03pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
Can't you just blow down one end?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]Can't you just blow down one end? Shoong
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12:33pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

From environmental point idea may be appealing.

If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration.

BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader...

How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?....

Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme?

Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed?

Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars?

Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation?

Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts?

Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising. Paramjit Bahia
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12:55pm Fri 17 Aug 12

nedscrumpo says...

Try piping hot air from the council chamber; enough to keep the whole city going!
Try piping hot air from the council chamber; enough to keep the whole city going! nedscrumpo
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1:07pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Buglady says...

I fully support the incinerator, it's a fantastic facility but how about some of that cheap electricity for Marchwood residents or using the money generated to build local cycle paths?? Afterall, we are the ones who have to live with the lorries bringing the waste in, and risk our lives if we want to cycle on Jacobs Gutter Lane.
I fully support the incinerator, it's a fantastic facility but how about some of that cheap electricity for Marchwood residents or using the money generated to build local cycle paths?? Afterall, we are the ones who have to live with the lorries bringing the waste in, and risk our lives if we want to cycle on Jacobs Gutter Lane. Buglady
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1:33pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Huffter says...

Run it close enough to the bed of the River Test and we could be enjoying ready cooked Salmon.
Run it close enough to the bed of the River Test and we could be enjoying ready cooked Salmon. Huffter
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2:09pm Fri 17 Aug 12

On the inside says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.[/p][/quote]For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read. On the inside
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2:17pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
From environmental point idea may be appealing.

If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration.

BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader...

How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?....

Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme?

Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed?

Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars?

Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation?

Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts?

Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
Good post Paramjit ........ Or was it loosehead ........ or was it aldermoorboy ........ or was it George somebody.
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Posted just like a doubting Tory
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.[/p][/quote]Good post Paramjit ........ Or was it loosehead ........ or was it aldermoorboy ........ or was it George somebody. . Posted just like a doubting Tory Lone Ranger.
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2:35pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Many thanks for insults.

Does everybody who dares to question NuLabour automatically become a Tory?

Oh well I can take comfort from what Tony Benn said on TV few years ago, when asked if he agreed with Ted Heath on some subject. His answer was "These days Ted is on the left of Mr. Blair".

Considering under Dear Leader cuts are even more brutal than under members of self confessed ‘Nasty Party” wonder if asked and provided with all the facts what Tony Benn will say about NuLabour in Southampton…
Many thanks for insults. Does everybody who dares to question NuLabour automatically become a Tory? Oh well I can take comfort from what Tony Benn said on TV few years ago, when asked if he agreed with Ted Heath on some subject. His answer was "These days Ted is on the left of Mr. Blair". Considering under Dear Leader cuts are even more brutal than under members of self confessed ‘Nasty Party” wonder if asked and provided with all the facts what Tony Benn will say about NuLabour in Southampton… Paramjit Bahia
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2:35pm Fri 17 Aug 12

George4th says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
From environmental point idea may be appealing.

If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration.

BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader...

How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?....

Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme?

Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed?

Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars?

Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation?

Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts?

Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
Good post.
>
" if it helps environment project deserves consideration"
Yes.
>
"he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May"
Yes, with unfailing regularity! The current council seem to be in total disarray and the idea of them making decisions of any kind, fills me with dread.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.[/p][/quote]Good post. > " if it helps environment project deserves consideration" Yes. > "he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May" Yes, with unfailing regularity! The current council seem to be in total disarray and the idea of them making decisions of any kind, fills me with dread. George4th
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2:39pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

On the inside wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read.
Sorry... Problem goes back to having learnt your lingo in India, teacher from Scotland was mostly drunk.... Hence the way I write
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.[/p][/quote]For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read.[/p][/quote]Sorry... Problem goes back to having learnt your lingo in India, teacher from Scotland was mostly drunk.... Hence the way I write Paramjit Bahia
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2:42pm Fri 17 Aug 12

George4th says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
On the inside wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.
For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read.
Sorry... Problem goes back to having learnt your lingo in India, teacher from Scotland was mostly drunk.... Hence the way I write
:-) LOL
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: From environmental point idea may be appealing. If the heat produced by incinerator is used for producing electric, is there any more left for this scheme? If so using it can be good idea, if it helps environment project deserves consideration. BUT some of us will need convincing that this is the actual brain child of Dear Leader... How come he who has been busy slipping upon banana skins since May has managed to coordinate so much so fast?.... Or have the sales team of some firm worked hard to sell this scheme? Or was this proposal doing its rounds before NuLabour got into power recently and now Dear Leader has decided to exploit it as 'pie in sky' for saving his own skin from political heat, which got created because NuLabourites misled people before election on many issues and now their hypocrisy of Blair proportions is getting exposed? Personally I want to believe this scheme because of seductively Green argument, BUT can we trust administration that contains self confessed liars? Have they not admitted in Council that complete 'LIE' was casually signed off over certain resignation? Did their Councillor not tell Echo she was going to "Move heaven and earth" to save Oaklands pool but voted for cuts? Sorry to say it is Dear Leader and his poodles own fault that NuLabour has lost most of the trust, considering even our two councillors who are members of NuLabour did not believe in twin talk of their colleagues it is hardly surprising.[/p][/quote]For gods sake Parmi use the word 'The' now and then and stop making your (sometimes) reasonable posts so hard to read.[/p][/quote]Sorry... Problem goes back to having learnt your lingo in India, teacher from Scotland was mostly drunk.... Hence the way I write[/p][/quote]:-) LOL George4th
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2:47pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

No mention of the Tory councils plans to do exactly this?
Theres a pipeline already under the water from near this plant & the tories were looking at pumping this into the east of the city.
I suggested a similar thing with waste hot water from the new(proposed) Bio Mass generator.
I'm happy Labour's going ahead with another Tory idea but surely they should give credit to the last Tory council for looking into it & doing the ground work for them?
No mention of the Tory councils plans to do exactly this? Theres a pipeline already under the water from near this plant & the tories were looking at pumping this into the east of the city. I suggested a similar thing with waste hot water from the new(proposed) Bio Mass generator. I'm happy Labour's going ahead with another Tory idea but surely they should give credit to the last Tory council for looking into it & doing the ground work for them? loosehead
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2:47pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Ginger_cyclist says...

This idea is no better than burning coal, oil or gas.
This idea is no better than burning coal, oil or gas. Ginger_cyclist
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2:49pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then? loosehead
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3:09pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Many thanks for insults.

Does everybody who dares to question NuLabour automatically become a Tory?

Oh well I can take comfort from what Tony Benn said on TV few years ago, when asked if he agreed with Ted Heath on some subject. His answer was "These days Ted is on the left of Mr. Blair".

Considering under Dear Leader cuts are even more brutal than under members of self confessed ‘Nasty Party” wonder if asked and provided with all the facts what Tony Benn will say about NuLabour in Southampton…
Didnt think you would be that offended or felt insulted.
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Didnt say you were a tory just suggested that it had a Tory slant to it.
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As regards Tony Benn ...... a great politician ...... didnt always agree with all of his comments though
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: Many thanks for insults. Does everybody who dares to question NuLabour automatically become a Tory? Oh well I can take comfort from what Tony Benn said on TV few years ago, when asked if he agreed with Ted Heath on some subject. His answer was "These days Ted is on the left of Mr. Blair". Considering under Dear Leader cuts are even more brutal than under members of self confessed ‘Nasty Party” wonder if asked and provided with all the facts what Tony Benn will say about NuLabour in Southampton…[/p][/quote]Didnt think you would be that offended or felt insulted. . Didnt say you were a tory just suggested that it had a Tory slant to it. . As regards Tony Benn ...... a great politician ...... didnt always agree with all of his comments though Lone Ranger.
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3:47pm Fri 17 Aug 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
The idea go's back even before the Torys was in power, Councillor Pat Bear was a Councilor when I first the posibilitys of it. It be a waste of time piping using warm water or warm air has would need more engery to pump it around, but to produce Electric would be a lot better and tap into the national grid.
It would not be green, but you would be using an engery source that would be wasted.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]The idea go's back even before the Torys was in power, Councillor Pat Bear was a Councilor when I first the posibilitys of it. It be a waste of time piping using warm water or warm air has would need more engery to pump it around, but to produce Electric would be a lot better and tap into the national grid. It would not be green, but you would be using an engery source that would be wasted. southy
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3:54pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Tottonion says...

Why do we have to have a bloody horrendous eyesore in the docks for a power station. Burn the wood in the incinerator at Marchwood.
Why do we have to have a bloody horrendous eyesore in the docks for a power station. Burn the wood in the incinerator at Marchwood. Tottonion
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4:13pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk. Ant Smoking MP
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4:46pm Fri 17 Aug 12

J.P.M says...

My cat is the traditional black and white type.
When he was a kitten, he was cute like the one in the felix advert.
Now he is older, he looks like a badger.
He rarely stays in the house all night, particularly in the warmer weather.
My cat is the traditional black and white type. When he was a kitten, he was cute like the one in the felix advert. Now he is older, he looks like a badger. He rarely stays in the house all night, particularly in the warmer weather. J.P.M
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5:02pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again Lone Ranger.
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5:03pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Oh nearly forgot ....... It wasnt in their Tory manifesto either ...... Wonder why
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Oh nearly forgot ....... It wasnt in their Tory manifesto either ...... Wonder why Lone Ranger.
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5:08pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

Ant Smoking MP wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.
No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed.

Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines.

Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags.

Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far.
[quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.[/p][/quote]No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed. Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines. Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags. Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far. Paramjit Bahia
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5:24pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Please be nice to loserhead. He is either busy in Wetherspoons or spending all that hard earned taxpayers money passed on through DHSS benefits to his mortgage account when he was renting out. He is a delicate soul our loserhead. And worst of all he admits to being a Tory!!
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Please be nice to loserhead. He is either busy in Wetherspoons or spending all that hard earned taxpayers money passed on through DHSS benefits to his mortgage account when he was renting out. He is a delicate soul our loserhead. And worst of all he admits to being a Tory!! Ant Smoking MP
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5:31pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
Thanks for explaining the mystery, where the idea came from.

So far so good.....

BUT why no progress was made on pipe dream when your Cllr. Smith led lot were in power?

Was it because they were too busy implementing savage cuts or were not all that serious about environment.

I suspect both.

After all what can we expect from Party of David Cameron who flew to frozen north in a jet plane for getting his picture taken with a dog.

Pity that husky has not got a vote, otherwise it would consider seriously and ask what happened to Cameron's promises on environment.

I wish someone could find that husky now and take it to Downing Street, so that it may express its disgust by pis5ing on promise breaker
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]Thanks for explaining the mystery, where the idea came from. So far so good..... BUT why no progress was made on pipe dream when your Cllr. Smith led lot were in power? Was it because they were too busy implementing savage cuts or were not all that serious about environment. I suspect both. After all what can we expect from Party of David Cameron who flew to frozen north in a jet plane for getting his picture taken with a dog. Pity that husky has not got a vote, otherwise it would consider seriously and ask what happened to Cameron's promises on environment. I wish someone could find that husky now and take it to Downing Street, so that it may express its disgust by pis5ing on promise breaker Paramjit Bahia
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5:32pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Huffter says...

Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again
Please be nice to loserhead. He is either busy in Wetherspoons or spending all that hard earned taxpayers money passed on through DHSS benefits to his mortgage account when he was renting out. He is a delicate soul our loserhead. And worst of all he admits to being a Tory!!
DHSS - whatever's that? Don't think we've had one of those for years.
[quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Please be nice to loserhead. He is either busy in Wetherspoons or spending all that hard earned taxpayers money passed on through DHSS benefits to his mortgage account when he was renting out. He is a delicate soul our loserhead. And worst of all he admits to being a Tory!![/p][/quote]DHSS - whatever's that? Don't think we've had one of those for years. Huffter
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5:38pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Ant Smoking MP says...

Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!!
Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!! Ant Smoking MP
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5:55pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Can i now chuck me quilt of me pad then ils frigging frezing in this cel!
Can i now chuck me quilt of me pad then ils frigging frezing in this cel! Fatty x Ford Worker
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6:19pm Fri 17 Aug 12

southy says...

ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines southy
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8:27pm Fri 17 Aug 12

lordshill loyal says...

bone banger.sorry mean lone ranger.bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat!!!!!!!
bone banger.sorry mean lone ranger.bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat!!!!!!! lordshill loyal
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8:36pm Fri 17 Aug 12

JayPaul says...

Up to date, at least two-thirds of the energy generated in thermoelectric and nuclear fission power plants is wasted as heat, because they use conventional steam turbines with limited conversion efficiency. Then by using a more efficient thermoelectric converter it is possible to recover most of the heat energy into electricity reducing drastically the worldwide thermal pollution. http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=Uqnk19hn7
Rc
Up to date, at least two-thirds of the energy generated in thermoelectric and nuclear fission power plants is wasted as heat, because they use conventional steam turbines with limited conversion efficiency. Then by using a more efficient thermoelectric converter it is possible to recover most of the heat energy into electricity reducing drastically the worldwide thermal pollution. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=Uqnk19hn7 Rc JayPaul
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8:52pm Fri 17 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Super news is that why my heating has gone up 18%.
Super news is that why my heating has gone up 18%. Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:03pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OceansofRed says...

It sounds a good idea on paper. I hope there's some action.
It sounds a good idea on paper. I hope there's some action. OceansofRed
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9:05pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Super news is that why my heating has gone up 18%.
Temperature or costs?
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: Super news is that why my heating has gone up 18%.[/p][/quote]Temperature or costs? OSPREYSAINT
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9:06pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OceansofRed wrote:
It sounds a good idea on paper. I hope there's some action.
As long as you recycle the paper rather than burning it!
[quote][p][bold]OceansofRed[/bold] wrote: It sounds a good idea on paper. I hope there's some action.[/p][/quote]As long as you recycle the paper rather than burning it! OSPREYSAINT
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9:06pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!!
Enough's enough I'm fed up trying to explain to you my circumstances 35years ago.
as for Wetherspoons don't go in their & the last time I went to a pub was at my younger brothers funeral which was over two years ago.
I've tried to tell you that that sc*m tenant wrecked my house & it cost me far more to fix than I made in rent & I lost at least 3 times the amount collected in rents when I had to sell at a loss.
You can't admit being wrong & as I actually paid taxes on said rent & was acting with in the law please tell me in you're words what I've done wrong besides not agreeing with your point of view?
I'm biting my tongue at this moment in time as I don't want to lower myself to your level.
But explain what has that got to do with heating hey!
[quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!![/p][/quote]Enough's enough I'm fed up trying to explain to you my circumstances 35years ago. as for Wetherspoons don't go in their & the last time I went to a pub was at my younger brothers funeral which was over two years ago. I've tried to tell you that that sc*m tenant wrecked my house & it cost me far more to fix than I made in rent & I lost at least 3 times the amount collected in rents when I had to sell at a loss. You can't admit being wrong & as I actually paid taxes on said rent & was acting with in the law please tell me in you're words what I've done wrong besides not agreeing with your point of view? I'm biting my tongue at this moment in time as I don't want to lower myself to your level. But explain what has that got to do with heating hey! loosehead
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9:07pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Can i now chuck me quilt of me pad then ils frigging frezing in this cel!
Padded I guess?
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: Can i now chuck me quilt of me pad then ils frigging frezing in this cel![/p][/quote]Padded I guess? OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Fri 17 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Ant Smoking MP wrote:
Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!!
Enough's enough I'm fed up trying to explain to you my circumstances 35years ago.
as for Wetherspoons don't go in their & the last time I went to a pub was at my younger brothers funeral which was over two years ago.
I've tried to tell you that that sc*m tenant wrecked my house & it cost me far more to fix than I made in rent & I lost at least 3 times the amount collected in rents when I had to sell at a loss.
You can't admit being wrong & as I actually paid taxes on said rent & was acting with in the law please tell me in you're words what I've done wrong besides not agreeing with your point of view?
I'm biting my tongue at this moment in time as I don't want to lower myself to your level.
But explain what has that got to do with heating hey!
You certainly have an alchohol problem, lack of it!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: Oh dear. What a mistake!!! Well worth the effort of pointing it out. Next you will be telling us water is wet!![/p][/quote]Enough's enough I'm fed up trying to explain to you my circumstances 35years ago. as for Wetherspoons don't go in their & the last time I went to a pub was at my younger brothers funeral which was over two years ago. I've tried to tell you that that sc*m tenant wrecked my house & it cost me far more to fix than I made in rent & I lost at least 3 times the amount collected in rents when I had to sell at a loss. You can't admit being wrong & as I actually paid taxes on said rent & was acting with in the law please tell me in you're words what I've done wrong besides not agreeing with your point of view? I'm biting my tongue at this moment in time as I don't want to lower myself to your level. But explain what has that got to do with heating hey![/p][/quote]You certainly have an alchohol problem, lack of it! OSPREYSAINT
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9:12pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them loosehead
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9:23pm Fri 17 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Ant Smoking MP wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.
No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed.

Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines.

Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags.

Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far.
Paramjit sorry if I stole your thunder but it wouldn't bother me who finished this project(started it) but at least give praise for a vision & commend it as worthwhile to proceed to the person who first suggested it.
If Labour do this I will congratulate them & hope they can do the same thing with the waste hot water from the Bio Mass if it goes ahead.
What's getting me is the fact that 25 years ago I was grieving & trusted a letting agent which proved wrong thing to do but even on this article Labour supporters are saying i live off tax payers money & i'm down the pub I hardly ever drink yet I can't seem to get it through their thick bigoted heads.
we don't agree on politics but at least we can debate with out name calling
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.[/p][/quote]No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed. Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines. Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags. Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far.[/p][/quote]Paramjit sorry if I stole your thunder but it wouldn't bother me who finished this project(started it) but at least give praise for a vision & commend it as worthwhile to proceed to the person who first suggested it. If Labour do this I will congratulate them & hope they can do the same thing with the waste hot water from the Bio Mass if it goes ahead. What's getting me is the fact that 25 years ago I was grieving & trusted a letting agent which proved wrong thing to do but even on this article Labour supporters are saying i live off tax payers money & i'm down the pub I hardly ever drink yet I can't seem to get it through their thick bigoted heads. we don't agree on politics but at least we can debate with out name calling loosehead
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9:51pm Fri 17 Aug 12

arthur boutfaith says...

J.P.M wrote:
My cat is the traditional black and white type.
When he was a kitten, he was cute like the one in the felix advert.
Now he is older, he looks like a badger.
He rarely stays in the house all night, particularly in the warmer weather.
Perhaps it really is a badger??
Does the creature usually stay in and sleep during the day??
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: My cat is the traditional black and white type. When he was a kitten, he was cute like the one in the felix advert. Now he is older, he looks like a badger. He rarely stays in the house all night, particularly in the warmer weather.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it really is a badger?? Does the creature usually stay in and sleep during the day?? arthur boutfaith
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8:24am Sat 18 Aug 12

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ? Cyber__Fug
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9:08am Sat 18 Aug 12

freefinker says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
.. just about everything.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote].. just about everything. freefinker
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10:07am Sat 18 Aug 12

skin2000 says...

Nothing wrong with Wetherspoon's
Nothing wrong with Wetherspoon's skin2000
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10:19am Sat 18 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

lordshill loyal wrote:
bone banger.sorry mean lone ranger.bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat!!!!!!!
Lorshill loudmouth the person who shouts his gob off in public meetings.
.
Great that you keep up the reputation of your chosen abode.
.
Or are you just looking for a response loudmouth
[quote][p][bold]lordshill loyal[/bold] wrote: bone banger.sorry mean lone ranger.bleat bleat bleat bleat bleat!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Lorshill loudmouth the person who shouts his gob off in public meetings. . Great that you keep up the reputation of your chosen abode. . Or are you just looking for a response loudmouth Lone Ranger.
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10:21am Sat 18 Aug 12

Lone Ranger. says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit.
.
I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it.
.
Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them[/p][/quote]Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit. . I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it. . Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper Lone Ranger.
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1:30pm Sat 18 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit.
.
I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it.
.
Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper
Funny that before the local elections we were calling the Echo a socialist paper?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them[/p][/quote]Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit. . I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it. . Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper[/p][/quote]Funny that before the local elections we were calling the Echo a socialist paper? loosehead
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1:32pm Sat 18 Aug 12

loosehead says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit.
.
I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it.
.
Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper
So Paramjit is a Tory?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them[/p][/quote]Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit. . I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it. . Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper[/p][/quote]So Paramjit is a Tory? loosehead
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4:23pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Ant Smoking MP wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.
No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed.

Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines.

Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags.

Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far.
Paramjit sorry if I stole your thunder but it wouldn't bother me who finished this project(started it) but at least give praise for a vision & commend it as worthwhile to proceed to the person who first suggested it.
If Labour do this I will congratulate them & hope they can do the same thing with the waste hot water from the Bio Mass if it goes ahead.
What's getting me is the fact that 25 years ago I was grieving & trusted a letting agent which proved wrong thing to do but even on this article Labour supporters are saying i live off tax payers money & i'm down the pub I hardly ever drink yet I can't seem to get it through their thick bigoted heads.
we don't agree on politics but at least we can debate with out name calling
Loosehead, As a socialist I may not share your Tory views, but will always defend your right to hold those. Fairness and truth are important pillars of socialism. So if Mat Dean (I have always gone on well with him) got the ball rolling on this, Yes his share of credit must be given.

This issue has serious side implications, the credibility of Dear Leader. For the sake of our city, whichever political party person like him may belong to should be made to face the music.

He was party to lies on Keith Morrell’s resignation. Misled even Labour voters before election through cleverly worded literature. And now has created the impression that he has worked wonders within few days by inventing a grand idea to save environment, thus trying to portray himself better than Alan Whitehead and Caroline Lucas put together, both of whom are very much committed to environment.

So YES he deserves to be exposed. If any of my colleagues on real or soft left want to keep on protecting him just because a private landlord (Yes he owns and lets few houses) is member of NuLabour then it is up to them.
I have no intention of behaving like members of North Korean Communists, because hero worshiping is Conservative tradition, it should never be part of Socialism.

Yes I have noticed some people latching on to your past as a landlord. I have never liked landlords since my student days, due to bad experiences. But yes I have sympathy with those landlords who come across some really bad tenants. So I can understand what you may have gone through. That type of person makes the life of most decent people looking for accommodation difficult.

While I may have cracked light hearted jokes about others social tastes, seriously I never blame anybody for their personal tastes. I do not believe people from left have been picking upon you because you booze or not, so please do not take that too seriously, they were probably just trying to wind you up.

Finally let us face facts; there are more contributors on this site with Tory views who write far worse, bordering on to abuse, than some on the left. I and most others just ignore them with contempt they deserve. It is probably because we the socialists are more tolerant.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ant Smoking MP[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]Ideas, ideas, ideas!! But they didnt enact them though didnt they. All talk.[/p][/quote]No disrespect to Dear Leader, he has only made a sound bite so far, so let us wait and see how many will trust their money in his hands by buying proposed bonds and when the project will actually be completed. Sadly so far loosehead's post has answered one of the questions I raised i.e. Dear Leader appear to be doing his usual thingy, not telling the whole truth, that this scheme is not Dear Leader's brain child but was already there under dust. So I should be forgiven for thinking that 'Humphries' in Civic Centre may have taught him to play this pipe dream for securing favourable headlines. Environment is most serious issue, all three main Parties are guilty of exploiting it for political opportunism. David Cameron by promising green actions to husky dogs and Prescott released lot of hot air on same subject but then driving petrol guzzling Jags. Greens are the only party who are serious on this subject. Or we have some individuals like Alan Whitehead but will NuLabour let him become their spokesperson on environment? They have not done so far.[/p][/quote]Paramjit sorry if I stole your thunder but it wouldn't bother me who finished this project(started it) but at least give praise for a vision & commend it as worthwhile to proceed to the person who first suggested it. If Labour do this I will congratulate them & hope they can do the same thing with the waste hot water from the Bio Mass if it goes ahead. What's getting me is the fact that 25 years ago I was grieving & trusted a letting agent which proved wrong thing to do but even on this article Labour supporters are saying i live off tax payers money & i'm down the pub I hardly ever drink yet I can't seem to get it through their thick bigoted heads. we don't agree on politics but at least we can debate with out name calling[/p][/quote]Loosehead, As a socialist I may not share your Tory views, but will always defend your right to hold those. Fairness and truth are important pillars of socialism. So if Mat Dean (I have always gone on well with him) got the ball rolling on this, Yes his share of credit must be given. This issue has serious side implications, the credibility of Dear Leader. For the sake of our city, whichever political party person like him may belong to should be made to face the music. He was party to lies on Keith Morrell’s resignation. Misled even Labour voters before election through cleverly worded literature. And now has created the impression that he has worked wonders within few days by inventing a grand idea to save environment, thus trying to portray himself better than Alan Whitehead and Caroline Lucas put together, both of whom are very much committed to environment. So YES he deserves to be exposed. If any of my colleagues on real or soft left want to keep on protecting him just because a private landlord (Yes he owns and lets few houses) is member of NuLabour then it is up to them. I have no intention of behaving like members of North Korean Communists, because hero worshiping is Conservative tradition, it should never be part of Socialism. Yes I have noticed some people latching on to your past as a landlord. I have never liked landlords since my student days, due to bad experiences. But yes I have sympathy with those landlords who come across some really bad tenants. So I can understand what you may have gone through. That type of person makes the life of most decent people looking for accommodation difficult. While I may have cracked light hearted jokes about others social tastes, seriously I never blame anybody for their personal tastes. I do not believe people from left have been picking upon you because you booze or not, so please do not take that too seriously, they were probably just trying to wind you up. Finally let us face facts; there are more contributors on this site with Tory views who write far worse, bordering on to abuse, than some on the left. I and most others just ignore them with contempt they deserve. It is probably because we the socialists are more tolerant. Paramjit Bahia
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4:35pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit.
.
I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it.
.
Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper
So Paramjit is a Tory?
Like your sense of humour.

I can’t stand even Closet Conservatives of NuLabour so can never ever be a Tory.

Loosehead should learn that we on left have independent views, are not dictated by central office, so sometime end up disagreeing with each other. End of the day I will always respect my colleagues on both soft and real left and have faith in them. Period
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them[/p][/quote]Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit. . I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it. . Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper[/p][/quote]So Paramjit is a Tory?[/p][/quote]Like your sense of humour. I can’t stand even Closet Conservatives of NuLabour so can never ever be a Tory. Loosehead should learn that we on left have independent views, are not dictated by central office, so sometime end up disagreeing with each other. End of the day I will always respect my colleagues on both soft and real left and have faith in them. Period Paramjit Bahia
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4:42pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
loosehead wrote:
southy wrote:
Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
so you agree another great Tory idea then?
No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead.
.
Must be in your imagination...... Again
Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again.
The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago.
it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due.
If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that.
Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them
Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit.
.
I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it.
.
Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper
Funny that before the local elections we were calling the Echo a socialist paper?
Echo like all others is in bussiness to make money. Most people from press have something common with oldest profession in the world, they will do whatever to mint money; in case of press slant stories to suit sales.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Now this I can see sence in, burning rubbish to produce power.[/p][/quote]The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. so you agree another great Tory idea then?[/p][/quote]No .... cant find any evidence of that little gem either loosehead. . Must be in your imagination...... Again[/p][/quote]Lone ranger that post was from the article & for you I've copied & pasted it again. The idea of siphoning heat from the incinerator, possibly to pipe it to homes in Woolston and Weston, was first floated by the previous Conservative administration three years ago. it was Matt Dean who proposed it so as I think it's great & agree with it all I'm asking is for credit to be given to where it's due. If labour goes ahead with it I will say well done but to make out it's a new idea I will refute that. Lone Ranger if you've followed my posts on the Bio Mass you will see/know I'm all for alternative green/greenish energies & will praise any party for going ahead with them[/p][/quote]Dont need to copy and paste for my benefit. . I have read it but can still see no evidence from the Tories and i am sure we would have had there been any content to it. . Dont believe everything you read in a Tory newspaper[/p][/quote]Funny that before the local elections we were calling the Echo a socialist paper?[/p][/quote]Echo like all others is in bussiness to make money. Most people from press have something common with oldest profession in the world, they will do whatever to mint money; in case of press slant stories to suit sales. Paramjit Bahia
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5:00pm Sat 18 Aug 12

southy says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car. southy
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5:07pm Sat 18 Aug 12

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
I'm no expert on cars, but would it not be better to take the car to a Mechanic and ask them?

They can tell you what's wrong for free and give you a quote to fix it perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]I'm no expert on cars, but would it not be better to take the car to a Mechanic and ask them? They can tell you what's wrong for free and give you a quote to fix it perhaps? IronLady2010
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7:46pm Sat 18 Aug 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there.
From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop.
If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place.
Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there. From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop. If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place. Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off Paramjit Bahia
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9:14pm Sat 18 Aug 12

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
I'm no expert on cars, but would it not be better to take the car to a Mechanic and ask them?

They can tell you what's wrong for free and give you a quote to fix it perhaps?
The car i not going any where, not going to risk doing to much damage.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]I'm no expert on cars, but would it not be better to take the car to a Mechanic and ask them? They can tell you what's wrong for free and give you a quote to fix it perhaps?[/p][/quote]The car i not going any where, not going to risk doing to much damage. southy
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9:26pm Sat 18 Aug 12

southy says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there.
From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop.
If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place.
Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off
I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there. From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop. If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place. Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off[/p][/quote]I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft. southy
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9:28pm Sat 18 Aug 12

southy says...

southy wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there.
From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop.
If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place.
Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off
I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.
Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there. From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop. If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place. Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off[/p][/quote]I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.[/p][/quote]Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers southy
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8:01am Sun 19 Aug 12

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
southy wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there.
From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop.
If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place.
Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off
I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.
Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers
There is no Brian at Ashers, you need to speak with Greg or Danny
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there. From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop. If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place. Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off[/p][/quote]I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.[/p][/quote]Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers[/p][/quote]There is no Brian at Ashers, you need to speak with Greg or Danny Cyber__Fug
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10:04am Sun 19 Aug 12

VConcerned says...

When the wood burner comes online North Solent area will have three large chimney smells, hopefully none will come my way at the same time. I can smell Fawley in Southampton occsionally but will all the combined smoke stacks at roughly the same altitude be a possible cause for smog?
When the wood burner comes online North Solent area will have three large chimney smells, hopefully none will come my way at the same time. I can smell Fawley in Southampton occsionally but will all the combined smoke stacks at roughly the same altitude be a possible cause for smog? VConcerned
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11:15am Sun 19 Aug 12

southy says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
southy wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines
what do you need to know ?
I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.
Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there.
From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop.
If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place.
Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off
I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.
Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers
There is no Brian at Ashers, you need to speak with Greg or Danny
Brian retired now I take it, I give those to a try Thanks Cyber
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: ok who is very good with turbo diesel engines[/p][/quote]what do you need to know ?[/p][/quote]I kind of sound that i have never encounter before on a car.[/p][/quote]Peter try a place in Empress Road it may still be there. From your place go to Lodge Road >turn right into Bevios Valley> left by motor bike shop> right into Empress Road. Look for unit with MOT place on right in same parking there used to be a diesel specialist workshop. If it is turbo on your old car, it may be cheaper to buy another. But this place will give you good advice. In past I and few mates have used them. Honest, reasonable and helpful place. Stay away from main dealers, they will rip you off[/p][/quote]I know its not the cam or the cam belt the warning light would of come up (belt is only 3 mths old), fearing the worse might be a the thrust bearing on the crank shaft.[/p][/quote]Do you mean DBH engineering, going have a chat with Chaz at freeborns on monday, and Brian at Ashers[/p][/quote]There is no Brian at Ashers, you need to speak with Greg or Danny[/p][/quote]Brian retired now I take it, I give those to a try Thanks Cyber southy
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5:19pm Sun 19 Aug 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

Sounds a positive move, and much better to use 'existing' resources to produce heat instead of chopping down yet more trees! instead of government money being chucked at schemes which aren't sustainable have dubious 'green' credentials. Glad to hear about the solar panels too, HCC at least are ahead on that. We should see more organisations like the hospital, university, etc investing in long-term energy saving as well as individual household responsibility.
Sounds a positive move, and much better to use 'existing' resources to produce heat instead of chopping down yet more trees! instead of government money being chucked at schemes which aren't sustainable have dubious 'green' credentials. Glad to hear about the solar panels too, HCC at least are ahead on that. We should see more organisations like the hospital, university, etc investing in long-term energy saving as well as individual household responsibility. freemantlegirl2
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6:12pm Sun 19 Aug 12

loosehead says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
Sounds a positive move, and much better to use 'existing' resources to produce heat instead of chopping down yet more trees! instead of government money being chucked at schemes which aren't sustainable have dubious 'green' credentials. Glad to hear about the solar panels too, HCC at least are ahead on that. We should see more organisations like the hospital, university, etc investing in long-term energy saving as well as individual household responsibility.
A Question of you & other posters if you were offered Solar Panels for free by the Government would you have them?
I have al;ready accepted & I'm saving (hopefully) on my Electricity bills
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: Sounds a positive move, and much better to use 'existing' resources to produce heat instead of chopping down yet more trees! instead of government money being chucked at schemes which aren't sustainable have dubious 'green' credentials. Glad to hear about the solar panels too, HCC at least are ahead on that. We should see more organisations like the hospital, university, etc investing in long-term energy saving as well as individual household responsibility.[/p][/quote]A Question of you & other posters if you were offered Solar Panels for free by the Government would you have them? I have al;ready accepted & I'm saving (hopefully) on my Electricity bills loosehead
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7:39pm Sun 19 Aug 12

skin2000 says...

How do you go about getting them free from the government?
How do you go about getting them free from the government? skin2000
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1:01pm Mon 20 Aug 12

southy says...

skin2000 wrote:
How do you go about getting them free from the government?
you can only have them if one side of the roof is facing south, and there is no obstructions like Trees or buildings.
be careful lo if you do get them, high winds will damage the roof, where there is a air pressure difference on one side of the panel to the other side and starts to lift, A few around here have found that they now have leaks in there roofs.
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: How do you go about getting them free from the government?[/p][/quote]you can only have them if one side of the roof is facing south, and there is no obstructions like Trees or buildings. be careful lo if you do get them, high winds will damage the roof, where there is a air pressure difference on one side of the panel to the other side and starts to lift, A few around here have found that they now have leaks in there roofs. southy
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10:59am Tue 21 Aug 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
skin2000 wrote:
How do you go about getting them free from the government?
you can only have them if one side of the roof is facing south, and there is no obstructions like Trees or buildings.
be careful lo if you do get them, high winds will damage the roof, where there is a air pressure difference on one side of the panel to the other side and starts to lift, A few around here have found that they now have leaks in there roofs.
Absolute cr*p. they actually are attached to the roof beams & help ptotect the tiles & extend their lives
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: How do you go about getting them free from the government?[/p][/quote]you can only have them if one side of the roof is facing south, and there is no obstructions like Trees or buildings. be careful lo if you do get them, high winds will damage the roof, where there is a air pressure difference on one side of the panel to the other side and starts to lift, A few around here have found that they now have leaks in there roofs.[/p][/quote]Absolute cr*p. they actually are attached to the roof beams & help ptotect the tiles & extend their lives loosehead
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11:03am Tue 21 Aug 12

loosehead says...

skin2000 wrote:
How do you go about getting them free from the government?
Skin contact Southern Energy Solutions before the end of the month as the Tariff changes in Sept. & they're not doing it after that time.
You lease the roof space to them & if any damage happens through the panels they repair the damage.
they help protect the panels extending their lives you get free electric in day light hours or at least a reduced cost ( depends on strength of light) they make money from the electricity you don't use
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: How do you go about getting them free from the government?[/p][/quote]Skin contact Southern Energy Solutions before the end of the month as the Tariff changes in Sept. & they're not doing it after that time. You lease the roof space to them & if any damage happens through the panels they repair the damage. they help protect the panels extending their lives you get free electric in day light hours or at least a reduced cost ( depends on strength of light) they make money from the electricity you don't use loosehead
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