Council leaders to approve new HMO licence scheme

Daily Echo: Henstead Road in the Polygon, one of the Southampton's HMO hotspots Henstead Road in the Polygon, one of the Southampton's HMO hotspots

A SCHEME requiring landlords of shared homes in Southampton to pay £500 for a licence and undergo checks by the council will be discussed tonight.

Labour council leaders want to bring in a compulsory licence register for 6,500 houses in multiple occupation (HMO) where three or more unrelated people live together.

The council says it will allow it to weed out rogue landlords.

Landlord associations have warned rents will go up, the poor would be hit hardest and homelessness will rise.

Cabinet member for housing Cllr Warwick Payne said: “Good landlords have nothing to fear with this scheme and will gain from the landlord sector having a better reputation in the city and aiming for higher standards across the board.

“The aim is to improve neighbourhoods for all residents and we want to consult as widely as possible and take all views into account.”

Landlords would have to pay £500 for a five-year licence for each property shared by three or more unrelated people.

They would be subjected to a “fit and proper person” test as well as property checks by council officers.

Breaches of licence conditions around antisocial behaviour, waste in gardens and lettings signs, could lead to prosecutions, or in serious cases see the council take over the management of a property.

The council expects to hire up to 15 new staff to run the “self-financing” scheme, which will be put out to consultation by Labour council leaders tonight.

 

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10:09am Tue 21 Aug 12

Georgem says...

Minefield. Would 'unrelated people' include unmarried couples? What about same-sex couples? I can see landlords encouraging housemates to pretend to be couples to get around this.
Minefield. Would 'unrelated people' include unmarried couples? What about same-sex couples? I can see landlords encouraging housemates to pretend to be couples to get around this. Georgem

10:28am Tue 21 Aug 12

Stillness says...

Very short sighted. I can see there is a need to crack down on some of the money grabbing sh1ts out there but they need to come up with a better idea of what constitutes multiple occupation. This could result in many a young unmarried couple who are relying on income from letting a room to a third person to pay the mortgage loosing their home and adding to the councils homeless problem. Perhaps the council could set up a help line so that those who think they have a "rouge landlord" could report the problem and the council pay said landlord a visit? I don't see why even the best landlords should be required to register. Looks like the council creating jobs for the boys whilst at the same time creating a revenue stream.
Very short sighted. I can see there is a need to crack down on some of the money grabbing sh1ts out there but they need to come up with a better idea of what constitutes multiple occupation. This could result in many a young unmarried couple who are relying on income from letting a room to a third person to pay the mortgage loosing their home and adding to the councils homeless problem. Perhaps the council could set up a help line so that those who think they have a "rouge landlord" could report the problem and the council pay said landlord a visit? I don't see why even the best landlords should be required to register. Looks like the council creating jobs for the boys whilst at the same time creating a revenue stream. Stillness

10:37am Tue 21 Aug 12

mrblunt says...

Come on Echo.
You must be very short of news.
This story and comments were in the paper at the weekend
Come on Echo. You must be very short of news. This story and comments were in the paper at the weekend mrblunt

10:44am Tue 21 Aug 12

housewife says...

so if two couples decide to rent a house together its an HMO
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but if one couple and their four parents and 14 cousins and children rent its not
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UTTERLY DAFT
so if two couples decide to rent a house together its an HMO . but if one couple and their four parents and 14 cousins and children rent its not . UTTERLY DAFT housewife

10:58am Tue 21 Aug 12

OV Resident says...

Good. I hope it goes ahead.

Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible.

And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top.

I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.
Good. I hope it goes ahead. Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible. And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top. I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city. OV Resident

11:22am Tue 21 Aug 12

rhilli says...

This is typical you try to help those people with no where to live and this is how your respected .How can the Landlord be held to count over noise and rubbish that tenants create The neighbours blame us for the noise etc that the tenants make how can it be our fault also the government pay tenants their benefit direct so 90% of the time the landlord wont get it .
They complain of a housing shortage then they think of a money making idea
This is typical you try to help those people with no where to live and this is how your respected .How can the Landlord be held to count over noise and rubbish that tenants create The neighbours blame us for the noise etc that the tenants make how can it be our fault also the government pay tenants their benefit direct so 90% of the time the landlord wont get it . They complain of a housing shortage then they think of a money making idea rhilli

11:26am Tue 21 Aug 12

tootle says...

£500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses.
£500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses. tootle

12:15pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Stillness says...

OV Resident wrote:
Good. I hope it goes ahead.

Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible.

And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top.

I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.
Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not.
[quote][p][bold]OV Resident[/bold] wrote: Good. I hope it goes ahead. Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible. And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top. I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.[/p][/quote]Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not. Stillness

1:40pm Tue 21 Aug 12

OV Resident says...

Stillness wrote:
OV Resident wrote:
Good. I hope it goes ahead.

Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible.

And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top.

I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.
Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not.
Yes, the article says it needs to be renewed every five years. That works out as £2.78 for three tenants over five years.
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OV Resident[/bold] wrote: Good. I hope it goes ahead. Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible. And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top. I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.[/p][/quote]Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not.[/p][/quote]Yes, the article says it needs to be renewed every five years. That works out as £2.78 for three tenants over five years. OV Resident

1:51pm Tue 21 Aug 12

OV Resident says...

rhilli wrote:
This is typical you try to help those people with no where to live and this is how your respected .How can the Landlord be held to count over noise and rubbish that tenants create The neighbours blame us for the noise etc that the tenants make how can it be our fault also the government pay tenants their benefit direct so 90% of the time the landlord wont get it .
They complain of a housing shortage then they think of a money making idea
Landlords should be given irrefutable rights to evict problem tenants. No legal challenges. No tenants rights. Just get them out. Tenants are allowed to get away with too much these days and frequently cause a nuisance to neighbours with their antisocial behaviour.

Whatever happened to people having pride in where they live? Just because you rent somewhere shouldn't mean that you have no personal investment in the area. It really winds me up when I see the rental tenants in our apartment block leaving their junk mail strewn all over the hallways, chewing gum in the carpets and bins having dribbled goo all over the place on the way to the bin store. It's always the renters, never the owners. They just have no respect.
[quote][p][bold]rhilli[/bold] wrote: This is typical you try to help those people with no where to live and this is how your respected .How can the Landlord be held to count over noise and rubbish that tenants create The neighbours blame us for the noise etc that the tenants make how can it be our fault also the government pay tenants their benefit direct so 90% of the time the landlord wont get it . They complain of a housing shortage then they think of a money making idea[/p][/quote]Landlords should be given irrefutable rights to evict problem tenants. No legal challenges. No tenants rights. Just get them out. Tenants are allowed to get away with too much these days and frequently cause a nuisance to neighbours with their antisocial behaviour. Whatever happened to people having pride in where they live? Just because you rent somewhere shouldn't mean that you have no personal investment in the area. It really winds me up when I see the rental tenants in our apartment block leaving their junk mail strewn all over the hallways, chewing gum in the carpets and bins having dribbled goo all over the place on the way to the bin store. It's always the renters, never the owners. They just have no respect. OV Resident

2:21pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Inform Al says...

The great majority of houses affected by this legislation will be those HMOs occupied by students. If the Uni's had shown some duty of care for the increased number of students they have taken on to increase their profits by building appropriate halls of residence for them we would not have the problem the council is now trying to address.
The great majority of houses affected by this legislation will be those HMOs occupied by students. If the Uni's had shown some duty of care for the increased number of students they have taken on to increase their profits by building appropriate halls of residence for them we would not have the problem the council is now trying to address. Inform Al

2:51pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Stillness says...

OV Resident wrote:
Stillness wrote:
OV Resident wrote:
Good. I hope it goes ahead.

Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible.

And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top.

I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.
Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not.
Yes, the article says it needs to be renewed every five years. That works out as £2.78 for three tenants over five years.
Unmarried couple renting a room to one other person = charging an extra £8.33 a month for 60 months.
[quote][p][bold]OV Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OV Resident[/bold] wrote: Good. I hope it goes ahead. Landlords that let their properties as house shares often have absolutely no regard for neighbours or tenants. All they are interested in is squeezing as much money out of the rental as possible. And what a load of rubbish from these 'landlord associations' about the poor being hit and homelessness rising. If the £500 cost of a licence is recouped by three or more paying tenants over the course of five years, then we're talking about an extra £2.78 per month per tenant. But of course these money-grabbing landlords will add their own levy on top. I hope Southampton City Council start licensing other things - such as dog ownership. Then we might all be able to live in a safer, more pleasant city.[/p][/quote]Ever thought that licenses need to be renewed to pay for the ongoing inspections? No, I thought not.[/p][/quote]Yes, the article says it needs to be renewed every five years. That works out as £2.78 for three tenants over five years.[/p][/quote]Unmarried couple renting a room to one other person = charging an extra £8.33 a month for 60 months. Stillness

4:40pm Tue 21 Aug 12

OV Resident says...

Stillness: That's what I said, didn't I?! Pretty much inconsequential. But wait until the landlord rounds that up to an additional £50. "Yeah, sorry but it's a rise in the cost of rental thingymajig, innit?"
Stillness: That's what I said, didn't I?! Pretty much inconsequential. But wait until the landlord rounds that up to an additional £50. "Yeah, sorry but it's a rise in the cost of rental thingymajig, innit?" OV Resident

10:13pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Radjig pomerdum boy rent now up 25%
Radjig pomerdum boy rent now up 25% Fatty x Ford Worker

10:16pm Tue 21 Aug 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

tootle wrote:
£500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses.
Me gotta a 46 family living in two rooms cheap are beds are always red hot with cheap cheap rent ha ha!
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: £500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses.[/p][/quote]Me gotta a 46 family living in two rooms cheap are beds are always red hot with cheap cheap rent ha ha! Fatty x Ford Worker

10:42pm Tue 21 Aug 12

dolomiteman says...

tootle wrote:
£500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses.
Try reading the article before posting, The £500 licence last five years.

As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that eqautes £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless.
[quote][p][bold]tootle[/bold] wrote: £500.00 for a license. Anyone want to bet it won't be renewable annually. Next logical step once the Landlords have all got licenses.[/p][/quote]Try reading the article before posting, The £500 licence last five years. As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that eqautes £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless. dolomiteman

10:59am Wed 22 Aug 12

skeptik says...

As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that equates £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless.”--------
---You cannot take costs in isolation, straws and camels backs. Many run businesses and each and every little cost can add up to bankruptcy.
As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that equates £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless.”-------- ---You cannot take costs in isolation, straws and camels backs. Many run businesses and each and every little cost can add up to bankruptcy. skeptik

11:33am Wed 22 Aug 12

Georgem says...

skeptik wrote:
As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that equates £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless.”--------

---You cannot take costs in isolation, straws and camels backs. Many run businesses and each and every little cost can add up to bankruptcy.
Although landlords are perfectly placed to simply pass that cost on to their tenants.
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: As someone pointed out when this article was first printed a few days ago that equates £8.33 a month per house so just how that will effect the poor and make them homeless.”-------- ---You cannot take costs in isolation, straws and camels backs. Many run businesses and each and every little cost can add up to bankruptcy.[/p][/quote]Although landlords are perfectly placed to simply pass that cost on to their tenants. Georgem

12:47pm Fri 24 Aug 12

Dan Soton says...

How many new Landlords will the licensing scheme net?.. 10 or 20

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we are told the existing HMO scheme has only 392 registered properties and the new scheme will need up to 15 extra staff..

we've all met a Landlord that can brag about owing 10 or more HMO properties, so is it 10 or 20 new Landlords?.

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Question for Lorraine Barter member of Residents Action.. could the new HMO officers save the Polygon from an unpleasant, stressful and potentially dangerous situation perpetrated by over 2,000 delinquent student tenants?...

The police did so why not employ more of them?...

the council would have to raise over £30m, employ 150 new HMO officers working 24/7 just to do half the job the police already do so brilliantly.

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http://www.dailyecho
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I'm talking from experience.. on the other side of my wall is a student let that has seen annual rave ups, I'm talking about 24/7 madness, walls and floors thumping with noise, people queuing down the street as the inside is full to bursting, drugged up girls and boys not even teenagers stumbling in and out at all hours.. shamefully and finally culminating in a police raid that carted away filming equipment.

is the owner a stupid meathead rogue landlord, the owner is a Southampton University lecture, she had handed over the day-to-day running of the property to a well know Estate Agent/Letting Agency.. since the police raid we've had people friendly students living next door.

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what a joke.. last month the Echo called the Polygon delinquent scum bags organisers and revellers.
How many new Landlords will the licensing scheme net?.. 10 or 20 - we are told the existing HMO scheme has only 392 registered properties and the new scheme will need up to 15 extra staff.. we've all met a Landlord that can brag about owing 10 or more HMO properties, so is it 10 or 20 new Landlords?. - Question for Lorraine Barter member of Residents Action.. could the new HMO officers save the Polygon from an unpleasant, stressful and potentially dangerous situation perpetrated by over 2,000 delinquent student tenants?... The police did so why not employ more of them?... the council would have to raise over £30m, employ 150 new HMO officers working 24/7 just to do half the job the police already do so brilliantly. - http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/briefing /diamond_jubilee/new s/9742506.Police_cla sh_with_Jubilee_reve llers/ - I'm talking from experience.. on the other side of my wall is a student let that has seen annual rave ups, I'm talking about 24/7 madness, walls and floors thumping with noise, people queuing down the street as the inside is full to bursting, drugged up girls and boys not even teenagers stumbling in and out at all hours.. shamefully and finally culminating in a police raid that carted away filming equipment. is the owner a stupid meathead rogue landlord, the owner is a Southampton University lecture, she had handed over the day-to-day running of the property to a well know Estate Agent/Letting Agency.. since the police raid we've had people friendly students living next door. - what a joke.. last month the Echo called the Polygon delinquent scum bags organisers and revellers. Dan Soton

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