Why don't my patients turn up? (From Daily Echo)
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Missed appointments by patients cost NHS millions
1:12pm Saturday 1st September 2012 in News
By Melanie Adams, Health Reporter
Why don't my patients turn up?
A Southampton GP has revealed the massive impact missed appointments have on his surgery.
Sitting in his GP surgery in Shirley, Dr Daniel Tongue can see with a click of a mouse just how costly Do Not Attends (DNA's) are in both NHS time and money.
Within the last six months Victor Street Surgery, which has around 13,000 registered patients, has seen 3,273 appointments missed by patients - a total of 41,000 wasted minutes.
With the average cost of a ten minute GP appointment estimated at £25, this means that £102,500 was lost by patients not turning up and not bothering to call.
Multiply this by the number of surgeries within the Southampton City Clinical Commissioning Group - 37 - that's an estimated loss of £3.8m in just six months being drained from the
cash-strapped NHS.
Dr Tongue, who is also planned care lead for Southampton City Clinical Commissioning Group, said: “It's really frustrating and the nurses certainly find it frustrating.
“Just yesterday one of my nurses who runs a diabetic clinic was telling me how much of an effect DNA's have on the practice.
“On Tuesday only three of her six appointments turned up, leaving her twiddling her thumbs for each of the 30 minute appointments, but yesterday she was running on empty because she had so many
extra patients to deal with.
“It does seem to be a growing trend. When I started in the profession eight years ago, the government had introduced the system of booking appointments within 48 hours and back then it didn't seem quite so prevalent.
“But as we move towards booking appointments six weeks in advance, DNA's seem to be rising, despite the whole point of moving back to the advanced system being to make it easier for people to fit in appointments around their daily lives.
“But it is not just a case of those who book in advance forgetting about their appointments. We have some patients who fail to turn up for appointments which they only booked two hours previously, through our emergency booking system.”
As reported by the Daily Echo more than 35,000 patients failed to attend scheduled appointments last year at Southampton General Hospital with 10,000 appointments missed at the Royal Hampshire County Hospital in Winchester.
Two years ago the problem was so bad - more than 60,000 appointments missed in Hampshire at a cost of £6.1m - that the Daily Echo launched its Turn Up or Tell 'Em campaign, to urge patients to ring up and tell hospitals and GP practices f they are unable to make their appointment.
Dr Tongue believes this is a vital message that patients need to take notice of and says that while hospitals will need sufficient notice to fill slots, GP surgeries have the capabilities of being much more flexible with even a ten minute warning enough time to make use of the time.
He added: “People just seem to have other priorities and don't see their doctor's appointments as one of them.
“Even if they called to let us know ten minutes before, there's a chance someone might fill that appointment, because appointments are in such demand.
“People are walking in all the time looking for an appointment, and if we get a call to say a patient cannot make it because they are stuck in traffic, we know we can offer that slot to someone else, instead of waiting around for someone who just isn't going to turn up.”
Solving the problem isn't an easy one and while modern technology is being used in hospitals and GP's practices to make it easier for patients to cancel their appointments, doctors are still left wondering why many still insist on simply not turning up without having the courtesy to call.
“It does seem that because a patient is getting the appointment for free they don't value the service as much”, said Dr Tongue.
“When money is not being exchanged some people forget that it is costing the NHS and the taxpayer is paying for it. They may not be physically paying for it, but someone else is on their behalf and people need to understand that.
“We have to encourage people to value the service we are offering. To have ten per cent of appointments missed is costing the NHS a lot of money.
“I think we do need to understand better the reasons why people simply don't turn up, learn how we can do things to improve it, using technology for example and of course encouraging patients to let us know if they cannot turn up.
“As a practice we have been looking at ways of how we can reduce this problem and help patients to help us. We understand that some people do find it hard to contact their GP surgery so we are doing what we can to improve the system.
“We have the software here to run a text messaging service to remind patients so we are looking to get that up and running smoothly.
“We have also recently introduced online forms and an automated service so that patients don't even need to speak to a person to cancel an appointment. So if someone remembers on a Sunday that they can't make it, they can let the surgery know even when it's closed.
“I am not a believer in imposing financial fines on those who miss appointments. I don't think it would work and it would just create another layer of bureaucracy that would cost just as much.
“I think any form of penalty would be difficult because the ethos of the NHS is based on need and you cannot start turning people away if they need treatment.
“If a surgery notices that a patient regularly misses appointments then they have the power to de-list the patient, forcing them the inconvenience of having to find another practice but that really is the last resort.”
Comments(115)
chapelsaint
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1:58pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead
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2:22pm Sat 1 Sep 12
I told her she was fully booked but she said she would talk to reception as she had been sat there with nothing to do.
If people don't turn up they should only get 10min emergency appointments or get fined
KA
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2:38pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead
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2:47pm Sat 1 Sep 12
KA wrote:If it cost more in fines than phone calls maybe people would call?
Maybe if it was not so expensive to phone and cancel then more ppl would.!
arthur dalyrimple
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2:48pm Sat 1 Sep 12
G0Rf
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2:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Doesn't take a genius to work out that most people local to this surgery only have mobile phones and are not prepared to pay to phone an 0844!
They should do a 3 strike rule, 3 DNA's and u get a fine!
Sir Ad E Noid
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2:53pm Sat 1 Sep 12
BillyTheKid wrote:Billy, well put. Sadly, I don't think you have covered everybody. A proportion of failed appointments are probably covered by your list. How many just can't be bothered to pick up a phone to cancel as their ailment has got better or has cleared up. The waste that this doctor has highlighted is really bad. The possible true bill for this area is probably staggering.
Some people are just forgetful. Others are irresponsible, and their lives consist of living from one crisis to the next. And many others find it difficult to get everything done at the right time against the backdrop of a modern and complex society.
Many doctor's and dentist's surgeries have little or no parking on the premises, and are surrounded by "double yellows" stretching for miles in all directions. Factor in road works, and you have the perfect recipe for patient delay. Bitterne Health Centre have lots of parking facilities, with a fair-sized car park opposite, and a lot of nearby road parking. I wonder if they have as many missed appointments - it would be interesting to know.
"Out of town" has been the solution for businesses, with plenty of parking and ease of access away from town centre traffic congestion. Perhaps that ought to be investigated.
Another interesting "missed appointments" comparison might be between those who live within walking distance of their surgery, and those who have to use public or private transport.
I'm not claiming to have the answers !
Just making a few suggestions is all.
erica smith
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2:55pm Sat 1 Sep 12
sarfhamton
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2:56pm Sat 1 Sep 12
erica smith
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3:05pm Sat 1 Sep 12
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sparkster
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3:06pm Sat 1 Sep 12
KA
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3:53pm Sat 1 Sep 12
sparkster wrote:Yes it does.. you get through and you are kept on hold for ages.! not just to cancel appointments either making them is just as bad..
It doesn't take long to make a phone call to cancel an appointment, so that maybe someone else could have the benefit of it, its a matter of courtesy, if you write it down and put it in your diary/calendar you have it there to see, i have a hospital card but i still write it on the calendar when i get home
southy
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3:57pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010
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4:15pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Let us also not forget some people don't have landlines and rely on PAYG mobiles, some may not have credit and are too ill to go to a phone box.
There are also those who simply cannot be bothered.
IronLady2010
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4:17pm Sat 1 Sep 12
southy wrote:That is actually a good suggestion. Our surgery used to have an open surgery each morning from 8am til 12pm, just turn up and wait. Then the afternoons were for appointments, they stopped it though!
Go back to the old way where you just turned up at the surgery with out appointment or phoned up for results or a home visit.
Solomon's Boot
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4:22pm Sat 1 Sep 12
It's common courtesy to make a phone call. Mind you, with the state of manners in today's society, I guess it's not surprising that people just can't be bothered!
Georgem
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4:29pm Sat 1 Sep 12
southy wrote:Yes, I'm sure it would be great to have absolutely no idea how long a visit to the doctors will take. We can all just take endless days off work to go to the doctor.
Go back to the old way where you just turned up at the surgery with out appointment or phoned up for results or a home visit.
sparkster
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4:31pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010
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5:00pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Georgem wrote:It used to work in our old surgery in Oxford Street. The mornings were walk in open surgery and the afternoons were for appointments.
southy wrote:Yes, I'm sure it would be great to have absolutely no idea how long a visit to the doctors will take. We can all just take endless days off work to go to the doctor.
Go back to the old way where you just turned up at the surgery with out appointment or phoned up for results or a home visit.
Therefore if it was urgent you could be seen without an appointment, we used to wait for approx 30 minutes, but you could phone up and ask how big the wait was.
They now run a system whereby you have to phone up at 8am and the fasted finger gets an appointment that morning, the same thing at 12pm everyone has to phone and the fastest ones get a pm appointment.
They also have another GP who works the same times but for pre-booked appointments only.
The problem with pre-booked appointments is when you're feeling really ill and are constantly sleeping, it can be easy to miss the appointment.
jonnyx
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5:28pm Sat 1 Sep 12
SOULJACKER wrote:xenophobic pr**k.
Let's face it......
Shirley isn't called the "Mutant mile" for no reason, it is probably all them Polish that hang around drinking "Tyskie" & leaving their cans everywhere!
Just saying :P
sotonbusdriver
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5:37pm Sat 1 Sep 12
By the time they have found somwhere, and walked if they can to the surgery they know they would be late anyway...
Luckily my GP has a large ample FREE car park and I don't think sufferes these problems as much...
Some surgeries are so booked up it can be weeks before you can get an appointment and I expect the ailment has gone, or they have gone to A&E instead, then forget to cancel...
southy
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5:55pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I do remember them also and yes it did work well even if you was working.
southy wrote:That is actually a good suggestion. Our surgery used to have an open surgery each morning from 8am til 12pm, just turn up and wait. Then the afternoons were for appointments, they stopped it though!
Go back to the old way where you just turned up at the surgery with out appointment or phoned up for results or a home visit.
moocowpoorchick
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5:58pm Sat 1 Sep 12
southy
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6:04pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Georgem My old doctors surgery there was 2 doctors running 2 surgerys every day and a sunday only one would be open at a time, they had one in Shirley and one in Redbridge in wimpson Lane, and at the Time they was the only Doctors surgery on the then new Millbrook Housing Estate in Redbridge.
Georgem wrote:It used to work in our old surgery in Oxford Street. The mornings were walk in open surgery and the afternoons were for appointments.
southy wrote:Yes, I'm sure it would be great to have absolutely no idea how long a visit to the doctors will take. We can all just take endless days off work to go to the doctor.
Go back to the old way where you just turned up at the surgery with out appointment or phoned up for results or a home visit.
Therefore if it was urgent you could be seen without an appointment, we used to wait for approx 30 minutes, but you could phone up and ask how big the wait was.
They now run a system whereby you have to phone up at 8am and the fasted finger gets an appointment that morning, the same thing at 12pm everyone has to phone and the fastest ones get a pm appointment.
They also have another GP who works the same times but for pre-booked appointments only.
The problem with pre-booked appointments is when you're feeling really ill and are constantly sleeping, it can be easy to miss the appointment.
southy
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6:06pm Sat 1 Sep 12
ohec
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6:12pm Sat 1 Sep 12
jazzi
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6:29pm Sat 1 Sep 12
peasant
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6:38pm Sat 1 Sep 12
cliffwalker
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6:39pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Adlof Hilter
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6:46pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Of course, if you have a Vrgine landline Sir Richard charges you 14p per minute- that is not the NHS's fault.
Meanwhile patients expect the NHS to phone them on mobiles at 10p per minute!
OSPREYSAINT
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7:01pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010
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7:08pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Adlof Hilter wrote:You forget many people still have no landline. Calling such numbers from a PAYG mobile cost so much more.
What a shame people are still peddling the idea that NHS 0844 numbers are "premium rate". They are NOT. They cost about 0.2p yes- POINT 2 p per minute over and above the standard BT rate, and enable NHS bodies to pay for more sophisticated phone systems so you can book your appointment by phone at midnight.
Of course, if you have a Vrgine landline Sir Richard charges you 14p per minute- that is not the NHS's fault.
Meanwhile patients expect the NHS to phone them on mobiles at 10p per minute!
It's very much like when we break down in a car you are given an 0845 number to call, which costs much more than calling a normal landline number which is generally included in free minutes etc. (from a mobile)
Scrutinizer
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7:37pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger.
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7:46pm Sat 1 Sep 12
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
AndyAndrews
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7:51pm Sat 1 Sep 12
southy wrote:Yes, why are we being denied a chance to comment on the Thorpes?
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Scrutinizer
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8:02pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Scrutinizer
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8:17pm Sat 1 Sep 12
freefinker
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8:21pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Scrutinizer wrote:.. oh yes, but when the Echo says: -
The Echo is getting like the BBC, far too fussy about receiving comments about 'sensitive' stories. You don't get this to anything like the same extent on the U.S. news web sites.
"The remarks were posted anonymously under the username “commnurse” – but the Daily Echo can reveal that they were written by Mrs Thorpe. "
they are using the info they have held on her since she first registered to comment in these columns.
We may 'hide' behind our made up names, but remember this story - it is not beyond the Echo to expose you with personal information you thought was confidential.
Paramjit Bahia
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8:24pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
Paramjit Bahia
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8:28pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Also there could be few who may have over enjoyed few liters of beer or bottles of wine previous evening!
There are some circumstances whereby you may miss an appointment. If you are really ill for example and cannot get out of bed.
Let us also not forget some people don't have landlines and rely on PAYG mobiles, some may not have credit and are too ill to go to a phone box.
There are also those who simply cannot be bothered.
IronLady2010
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8:37pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
freefinker
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8:38pm Sat 1 Sep 12
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
bazzeroz
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8:38pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia
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8:39pm Sat 1 Sep 12
I understand from a GP friend that due to targets in which patients should be seen, most of them were left with no choice but to introduce strictly appointment only system, which can be a good idea for those who can arrange when to get ill.
IronLady2010
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8:46pm Sat 1 Sep 12
freefinker wrote:Privacy Policy..............
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
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Lone Ranger.
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8:47pm Sat 1 Sep 12
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
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The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Lone Ranger.
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8:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
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The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
IronLady2010
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8:53pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
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The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
Paramjit Bahia
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9:07pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Her views should not have reflected on her husband, BUT Cllr. Thorpe by expressing his appreciation for her support and by failing to condemn her insults thrown at people of Southampton (in his written statement) has made himself part of her offensive remarks.
Hardly surprising, considering arrogance and hypocrisy have become strong attributes of NuLabourites.
While I have always respected others right to hide behind assumed IDs on Internet, I have also made my position clear; I do not believe in hiding so have always posted stuff under my own name. So I can hardly share the view that Echo has behaved badly. Wish they expose few others, so we know who are posting one thing on this site and are behaving very differently in public.
If during election campaign she as strong supporter of her hubby had said the same in public, how may do anybody think would have still voted for him?
If partner of any Tory or Lib-Dem or some real socailist had behaved in this manner woule traitors of Labour the NuLabourites still be silent? I do not think so.
People should not be applying one set of standrads for likes of Southy and other for NuLabour's own miscrants. If it was wife of Southy many on this site would have made his life hell. I rest my case
Maine Lobster
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9:09pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Inform Al
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9:15pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:No problem, just google 'press complaints commission'. I did mine 1st thing.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Lone Ranger.
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9:16pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Not interested in the pollitics whatever your colour of party ..... But the fact that she posted under a name that wasnt her own ...... The Echo then traced that and pinpointed her .... and then .... Plastered her identity across three pages of the Echo.
Yes I agree with those who think Mrs. Thorpe is entitled to her individual opinion.
Her views should not have reflected on her husband, BUT Cllr. Thorpe by expressing his appreciation for her support and by failing to condemn her insults thrown at people of Southampton (in his written statement) has made himself part of her offensive remarks.
Hardly surprising, considering arrogance and hypocrisy have become strong attributes of NuLabourites.
While I have always respected others right to hide behind assumed IDs on Internet, I have also made my position clear; I do not believe in hiding so have always posted stuff under my own name. So I can hardly share the view that Echo has behaved badly. Wish they expose few others, so we know who are posting one thing on this site and are behaving very differently in public.
If during election campaign she as strong supporter of her hubby had said the same in public, how may do anybody think would have still voted for him?
If partner of any Tory or Lib-Dem or some real socailist had behaved in this manner woule traitors of Labour the NuLabourites still be silent? I do not think so.
People should not be applying one set of standrads for likes of Southy and other for NuLabour's own miscrants. If it was wife of Southy many on this site would have made his life hell. I rest my case
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And earlier you posted that was good journalism .... I disagree
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And this is NOT about politics
IronLady2010
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9:17pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Many on here actually like Southy, he is a one off. He stands up for what he believes If he could once in a while admit to an error he would get much more respect.
Yes I agree with those who think Mrs. Thorpe is entitled to her individual opinion.
Her views should not have reflected on her husband, BUT Cllr. Thorpe by expressing his appreciation for her support and by failing to condemn her insults thrown at people of Southampton (in his written statement) has made himself part of her offensive remarks.
Hardly surprising, considering arrogance and hypocrisy have become strong attributes of NuLabourites.
While I have always respected others right to hide behind assumed IDs on Internet, I have also made my position clear; I do not believe in hiding so have always posted stuff under my own name. So I can hardly share the view that Echo has behaved badly. Wish they expose few others, so we know who are posting one thing on this site and are behaving very differently in public.
If during election campaign she as strong supporter of her hubby had said the same in public, how may do anybody think would have still voted for him?
If partner of any Tory or Lib-Dem or some real socailist had behaved in this manner woule traitors of Labour the NuLabourites still be silent? I do not think so.
People should not be applying one set of standrads for likes of Southy and other for NuLabour's own miscrants. If it was wife of Southy many on this site would have made his life hell. I rest my case
We all hold opinions and that is what this site is all about. Lately for example, you have given some great info and opinions, Southy has gone off on one or two incorrect tangents, but we soon forgive him.
The wonderful world of the web, shame the Echo have ruined the anonymous part, can we ever trust them in the future?
Lone Ranger.
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9:19pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead
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9:19pm Sat 1 Sep 12
G0Rf wrote:I was a patient at Victor street but I'm now in Lordshill & I'm sure they both have a 02380 number & a 084? number.
Maybe if victor street surgery didn't have an 0844 premium rate phone number then people would bother to phone and cancel their appointments!
Doesn't take a genius to work out that most people local to this surgery only have mobile phones and are not prepared to pay to phone an 0844!
They should do a 3 strike rule, 3 DNA's and u get a fine!
you can phone either but the latter usually get's answered whilst the 80 number you're usually waiting for a reply.
with Victor street as Well as Lordshill if you know you can't make the appointment you can park in sainsbury's car park or in shirley in one of the car p[arks & cancel or rearrange the appointment.
if a call is thought of being too dear then the appointment wasn't that necessary was it?
if you really need to see a doctor you will get there even if you had to pay a taxi you'd get there
IronLady2010
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9:20pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Agree!
I apologise to all for hijacking this article re appontments .... but feel that the Echo are well out of order on their Thorpe "news"
loosehead
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9:21pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady if you're that ill surely you or a family member will have booked a home visit?
There are some circumstances whereby you may miss an appointment. If you are really ill for example and cannot get out of bed.
Let us also not forget some people don't have landlines and rely on PAYG mobiles, some may not have credit and are too ill to go to a phone box.
There are also those who simply cannot be bothered.
loosehead
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9:23pm Sat 1 Sep 12
sotonbusdriver wrote:Funny that I park behind Oswald Baileys & never have a problem finding a place?
Maybe people are turning up, but find it difficult to locate a parking space,, At times there are no spaces near Victor Street...
By the time they have found somwhere, and walked if they can to the surgery they know they would be late anyway...
Luckily my GP has a large ample FREE car park and I don't think sufferes these problems as much...
Some surgeries are so booked up it can be weeks before you can get an appointment and I expect the ailment has gone, or they have gone to A&E instead, then forget to cancel...
Inform Al
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9:24pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010
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9:28pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:I must admit I have missed an appointment once. I was so ill I couldn't do anything, the last thing on my mind was phoning the surgery. It happens.....
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady if you're that ill surely you or a family member will have booked a home visit?
There are some circumstances whereby you may miss an appointment. If you are really ill for example and cannot get out of bed.
Let us also not forget some people don't have landlines and rely on PAYG mobiles, some may not have credit and are too ill to go to a phone box.
There are also those who simply cannot be bothered.
IronLady2010
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9:30pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I would never request a home visit as I always feel there are others far worse off than me.
loosehead wrote:I must admit I have missed an appointment once. I was so ill I couldn't do anything, the last thing on my mind was phoning the surgery. It happens.....
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady if you're that ill surely you or a family member will have booked a home visit?
There are some circumstances whereby you may miss an appointment. If you are really ill for example and cannot get out of bed.
Let us also not forget some people don't have landlines and rely on PAYG mobiles, some may not have credit and are too ill to go to a phone box.
There are also those who simply cannot be bothered.
loosehead
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9:31pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady firstly if the doctors adopted Southy's way the A&E department would be inundated with minor cases of people who couldn't get to see their doctors.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
As for Mr's Thorpe she is the wife of a guy who wanted to be a councillor & she printed/posted remarks insulting the very people her husband wanted to represent?
then when elected she still carried on?
he's standing by her? or is it because he actually agrees with her & was party to the posts?
how many politicians have had to resign over their partners actions?
Inform Al
says...
9:32pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010
says...
9:36pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:She isn't a Councillor though, fair play to her husband for standing up for his wife though ;-)
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady firstly if the doctors adopted Southy's way the A&E department would be inundated with minor cases of people who couldn't get to see their doctors.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
As for Mr's Thorpe she is the wife of a guy who wanted to be a councillor & she printed/posted remarks insulting the very people her husband wanted to represent?
then when elected she still carried on?
he's standing by her? or is it because he actually agrees with her & was party to the posts?
how many politicians have had to resign over their partners actions?
loosehead
says...
9:44pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:So if David Camerons wife said send back all non whites or single mums should be made to work or have their children taken away.
loosehead wrote:She isn't a Councillor though, fair play to her husband for standing up for his wife though ;-)
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady firstly if the doctors adopted Southy's way the A&E department would be inundated with minor cases of people who couldn't get to see their doctors.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
As for Mr's Thorpe she is the wife of a guy who wanted to be a councillor & she printed/posted remarks insulting the very people her husband wanted to represent?
then when elected she still carried on?
he's standing by her? or is it because he actually agrees with her & was party to the posts?
how many politicians have had to resign over their partners actions?
Or people on welfare should be put into chain gangs & forced to work this shouldn't have any reflection on him?
I usually agree with you but get real will you.
Have you seen the picture of his wife?
how she has the nerve to slate us is unbelievable. she ought to get of her arse & burn of that ugly fat & maybe stop taking the ugly pills.
I hope she doesn't live in Millbrook Green Park Estate & for her sake she lives in original Millbrook ( Freshfield Rd,Victory Street etc;) as if she lives in the estate I can't see them being to happy with her or her husband
Des Olated
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9:46pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Agree with the comments; I suspect there are many posters who do so because of the anonymity of usernames and the Echo exposing her is unsettling.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
I suspect it may also be motivated by DE's very pro Emery stand in reporting that particular story.
I'd be interested in how they found out it was Mrs Thorpe posting and why they felt it OK to reveal the information.
freefinker
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9:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
loosehead
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9:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Lone Ranger.
says...
9:52pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:You and your comments are a disgrace.
IronLady2010 wrote:So if David Camerons wife said send back all non whites or single mums should be made to work or have their children taken away.
loosehead wrote:She isn't a Councillor though, fair play to her husband for standing up for his wife though ;-)
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady firstly if the doctors adopted Southy's way the A&E department would be inundated with minor cases of people who couldn't get to see their doctors.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
As for Mr's Thorpe she is the wife of a guy who wanted to be a councillor & she printed/posted remarks insulting the very people her husband wanted to represent?
then when elected she still carried on?
he's standing by her? or is it because he actually agrees with her & was party to the posts?
how many politicians have had to resign over their partners actions?
Or people on welfare should be put into chain gangs & forced to work this shouldn't have any reflection on him?
I usually agree with you but get real will you.
Have you seen the picture of his wife?
how she has the nerve to slate us is unbelievable. she ought to get of her arse & burn of that ugly fat & maybe stop taking the ugly pills.
I hope she doesn't live in Millbrook Green Park Estate & for her sake she lives in original Millbrook ( Freshfield Rd,Victory Street etc;) as if she lives in the estate I can't see them being to happy with her or her husband
.
loosehead
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9:54pm Sat 1 Sep 12
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Stillness
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9:59pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Des Olated
says...
10:00pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:No, part of the "fun" of website anonymity is complete freedom of expression. The poster's identity should remain anonymous unless they choose to reveal it themselves (Paramjit).
Si if it was Moulton writing incognito slagging his electorate or a partner of a Tory or Liberal councillor doing it with the councillors blessing none of you would want to know?
There is a poster who uses Southy's first name all the time, this IMHO is rude as they choose to remain anonymous yet reveal the other poster's name?
IronLady2010
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10:02pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
loosehead
says...
10:12pm Sat 1 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:In a cutting attack, she wrote: “It’s so amusing to see that the petty-minded, bigoted, inbred of Southampton have decided to have their say on here!
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
Anger “I only wish that the rest of you led fulfilling and worthwhile lives, but I expect in truth you do not.
I sincerely hope that your working lives are touched with redundancy and then you will truly know how it feels to be abandoned by your colleagues and career that has served you well... this man has given more to society than portrayed in this newspaper, but you cretins who are quick to stand and point will never realise this, get a life.”
And Mrs Thorpe further angered campaigners fighting to save the home and job of long-serving cemetery superintendent Jim Emery.
so you feel this is the right thing for a councillors wife to say?
For her information my father came from Liverpool & my mother came from Southampton how does this make me inbred?
Inform Al
says...
10:21pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:You obviously worked very hard at it.lol
IronLady2010 wrote:In a cutting attack, she wrote: “It’s so amusing to see that the petty-minded, bigoted, inbred of Southampton have decided to have their say on here!
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
Anger “I only wish that the rest of you led fulfilling and worthwhile lives, but I expect in truth you do not.
I sincerely hope that your working lives are touched with redundancy and then you will truly know how it feels to be abandoned by your colleagues and career that has served you well... this man has given more to society than portrayed in this newspaper, but you cretins who are quick to stand and point will never realise this, get a life.”
And Mrs Thorpe further angered campaigners fighting to save the home and job of long-serving cemetery superintendent Jim Emery.
so you feel this is the right thing for a councillors wife to say?
For her information my father came from Liverpool & my mother came from Southampton how does this make me inbred?
Inform Al
says...
10:23pm Sat 1 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Wouldn't know anyway, C'moron's Echo wouldn't print it.
Si if it was Moulton writing incognito slagging his electorate or a partner of a Tory or Liberal councillor doing it with the councillors blessing none of you would want to know?
G0Rf
says...
10:50pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Adlof Hilter wrote:quoted from BT website...."Calls to 0844 and 0871 numbers are not free and are often used as premium rate support lines"
What a shame people are still peddling the idea that NHS 0844 numbers are "premium rate". They are NOT. They cost about 0.2p yes- POINT 2 p per minute over and above the standard BT rate, and enable NHS bodies to pay for more sophisticated phone systems so you can book your appointment by phone at midnight.
Of course, if you have a Vrgine landline Sir Richard charges you 14p per minute- that is not the NHS's fault.
Meanwhile patients expect the NHS to phone them on mobiles at 10p per minute!
Oh and...why are doctors always running behind schedule? if all patients turned up then they would constantly running 30+mins behind.
peasant
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11:03pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Vonnie
says...
12:20am Sun 2 Sep 12
moocowpoorchick wrote:As a patient of this surgery, my experience exactly, moocowpoorchick
I was with this surgery most of my adult life but have recently moved as I could not get appointment, the arrogant rude receptionists are beyond belief, I work fulltime and rarely need to visit the gp when I do want an appointment I get told no as I have called to early or the book diary is not open for appointments etc etc, Drs at victor street are great but appointments and reception is the worst I have encountered in any walk of life!
Additionally, trying to phone to make or cancel an appointment - forget it. There are hundreds of people trying to get through on the one line in the half hour that it is open to take appointments.
I made a complaint thru the right channels and to my MP but got nowhere. I was even told that I could not make an appointment to see the surgery manager, but had to write. I did so -- nothing resolved.
The doctors are great but the system at Victor Street stinks.
sparkster
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6:30am Sun 2 Sep 12
loosehead
says...
8:27am Sun 2 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:Exactly why? I was only trying to point out that the people who read this aren't going to be happy about it so why did she print it? why no formal apology?
loosehead wrote:You and your comments are a disgrace.
IronLady2010 wrote:So if David Camerons wife said send back all non whites or single mums should be made to work or have their children taken away.
loosehead wrote:She isn't a Councillor though, fair play to her husband for standing up for his wife though ;-)
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady firstly if the doctors adopted Southy's way the A&E department would be inundated with minor cases of people who couldn't get to see their doctors.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:She is entitled to an opinion as we all are surely? She is not a Councillor, I assume she is just a normal person like me and you, so why can't she speak her mind?
Lone Ranger. wrote:Absolutely right.
southy wrote:Quite agree Southy. Could be some interesting comments..... Perhaps the Echo wont like the criticism
Tuby open up the post on "No apology from city councillor's wife after offensive remarks"
Having done excellent bit of journalism by exposing this foul mouthed woman and her husband (NuLabour's Cllr. Thorpe who is either arrogant or stupid or combination of both, for failing to condemn the most disgraceful actions of his beloved wife, thus associating with her obnoxious views) why Echo's own website is not allowing us the people of Southampton insulted by her to respond about both in kind.
What happened to rules for fairness, which should provide victims these nasty NuLabourite creatures rights of reply?
Come on Ian Murray; stop your people imposing this most ridiculous censorship.
As for Mr's Thorpe she is the wife of a guy who wanted to be a councillor & she printed/posted remarks insulting the very people her husband wanted to represent?
then when elected she still carried on?
he's standing by her? or is it because he actually agrees with her & was party to the posts?
how many politicians have had to resign over their partners actions?
Or people on welfare should be put into chain gangs & forced to work this shouldn't have any reflection on him?
I usually agree with you but get real will you.
Have you seen the picture of his wife?
how she has the nerve to slate us is unbelievable. she ought to get of her arse & burn of that ugly fat & maybe stop taking the ugly pills.
I hope she doesn't live in Millbrook Green Park Estate & for her sake she lives in original Millbrook ( Freshfield Rd,Victory Street etc;) as if she lives in the estate I can't see them being to happy with her or her husband
.
loosehead
says...
8:31am Sun 2 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady I think two wrongs have been committed here.
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
1/ the Echo should not have revealed her true identity.
2/ sha a councillors wife should not have printed these remarks.
I still feel he must have agreed with it & a formal apology should be made by both Mr's Thorpe & the Echo
loosehead
says...
8:34am Sun 2 Sep 12
if you've been well enough to book an appointment you must be well enough to phone & cancel.
the idea of a walk in surgery wouldn't work look at what happened to the NHS walk in surgery in Shirley they were queuing up at 4-6 in the morning for colds & all other types of minor ailments
SOULJACKER
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9:31am Sun 2 Sep 12
jonnyx wrote:Well done with the spelling on that one, I wouldn't have attempted that one....very impressed!
SOULJACKER wrote:xenophobic pr**k.
Let's face it......
Shirley isn't called the "Mutant mile" for no reason, it is probably all them Polish that hang around drinking "Tyskie" & leaving their cans everywhere!
Just saying :P
I am guessing you live on the "Mutant mile" then Johnny boi!
Oh & yes I guess I am what you wrote (not gonna attempt to spell it.....it's far too early for all that:).
Vonnie
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10:03am Sun 2 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Loosehead. Part of the reason why there were queues at the walk-in surgery in Shirley was because doctor's surgeries in the vicinity - including Victor Street - were telling patients to go there for blood tests and for minor ailments rather than use up the doctor's time. That is what walk-in surgeries were supposed to be for. The fact that they were used to capacity and had queues should have told the medical profession something. ie. there are more patients than doctor's surgeries to serve them.
Back to appointments.In my surgery on a Monday morning if you phone in you can get an emergency appointment for that day. if you've been well enough to book an appointment you must be well enough to phone & cancel. the idea of a walk in surgery wouldn't work look at what happened to the NHS walk in surgery in Shirley they were queuing up at 4-6 in the morning for colds & all other types of minor ailments
The difference in the service received and the way surgeries are managed is different from area to area, and whether they are NHS funded or NHS supported. That should never be, but it is so.
Dr Tongue and his colleagues are looking in the wrong place to put the blame. Yes, there are some lazy and rude patients who would not attempt to ring to cancel an appointment, but in the numbers that he is talking about??? I think not.
There are other reasons, some acceptable, some not, but until GP surgeries get their own house in order so that patients, not staff and financial considerations, come first, this problem will continue.
Paramjit Bahia
says...
11:13am Sun 2 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Loosehead you may have noticed Echo has opened comments on foul mouthed wife of Cllr. Thorpe, who rather than condemning her remarks has appreciated her actions, thus making himself part of the offensive remarks. But you are attacking him because he is her husband, which is to say the least is less than even weak reason.
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady I think two wrongs have been committed here.
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
.
The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
1/ the Echo should not have revealed her true identity.
2/ sha a councillors wife should not have printed these remarks.
I still feel he must have agreed with it & a formal apology should be made by both Mr's Thorpe & the Echo
loosehead
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11:37am Sun 2 Sep 12
Vonnie wrote:Sorry yes the walk in Surgery was for blood tests but not all minor ailments.
loosehead wrote:Loosehead. Part of the reason why there were queues at the walk-in surgery in Shirley was because doctor's surgeries in the vicinity - including Victor Street - were telling patients to go there for blood tests and for minor ailments rather than use up the doctor's time. That is what walk-in surgeries were supposed to be for. The fact that they were used to capacity and had queues should have told the medical profession something. ie. there are more patients than doctor's surgeries to serve them.
Back to appointments.In my surgery on a Monday morning if you phone in you can get an emergency appointment for that day. if you've been well enough to book an appointment you must be well enough to phone & cancel. the idea of a walk in surgery wouldn't work look at what happened to the NHS walk in surgery in Shirley they were queuing up at 4-6 in the morning for colds & all other types of minor ailments
The difference in the service received and the way surgeries are managed is different from area to area, and whether they are NHS funded or NHS supported. That should never be, but it is so.
Dr Tongue and his colleagues are looking in the wrong place to put the blame. Yes, there are some lazy and rude patients who would not attempt to ring to cancel an appointment, but in the numbers that he is talking about??? I think not.
There are other reasons, some acceptable, some not, but until GP surgeries get their own house in order so that patients, not staff and financial considerations, come first, this problem will continue.
My wife & I went to get a blood test I went straight there my wife popped into a shop & arrived after me in the space of ten minutes she was told due to the amount of minor ailments & the wait she wouldn't be seen I was there for over three hours
bobbyboy
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12:27pm Sun 2 Sep 12
TEBOURBA
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2:04pm Sun 2 Sep 12
I know the appointments booking system is a bit convaluted but having once been made aware of the system it is easy to work with.
Dr Tongue is my Doctor and I couldn't wish for better.
He listens, diagnoses and advises with consumate care.
He is certainly not a self publicist and I am in no doubt he has raised this matter in the interests of providing better health cover to more patients.
In the surgery there is a video screen displaying the number of missed appointments where no prior notice was given and these run in to hundreds if not thousands, so all patients unless they are blind, are aware of the waste of money.
Parking problems and the cost of ,phone calls, raised by other contributors are just red herrings, there is no excuse whatsoever for not advising the surgery of non - attendance, it is the couldn't care less and ignorant attitude of some people today, sadly fast becoming the majority.
Those who complain about mobile 'phone costs are no doubt those who are happy to pay to have have their 'phones glued to their ears 24/7.
I bet, if the surgery listed the non-attendees the vast majority they would find that there were very few if any in the over 60 age group.
People of this generation were taught to respect the requirements of the NHS, the finest health service in the World.
I think the surgery should study the list of non - attendees and adopt a policy of three strikes and you're out!
Inform Al
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4:28pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Well, well ,well. Just looked at the proper site for comments on the Echo's disingenious story on the Thorpes, and at 16.25 all the comments have been removed.
loosehead wrote:Loosehead you may have noticed Echo has opened comments on foul mouthed wife of Cllr. Thorpe, who rather than condemning her remarks has appreciated her actions, thus making himself part of the offensive remarks. But you are attacking him because he is her husband, which is to say the least is less than even weak reason.
IronLady2010 wrote:Ironlady I think two wrongs have been committed here.
loosehead wrote:SHE is a normal person, she isn't a Councillor.
freefinker wrote:What? she has a position of responsibility doesn't she?
IronLady2010 wrote:I seem to remember when I first registered to comment on this site I had to give my full personal details.
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Echo could not trace her directly, unless they are watching posters from the same IP and guessing.
Lone Ranger. wrote:IMHO the story is not her comments BUT the Echo's actions re her privacy
freefinker wrote:You are spot on.
.. well, here we go, we ARE commenting.
I think she is entitled to her views.
She is NOT councillor Thorpe.
Why the indignation now?
She took part in the cut and thrust of a debate.
No one was calling for her public humiliation at the time, so why now?
My concern is that almost all of us post on this site anonymously, as she did. OK, she is the spouse of a councillor. But that does not make it OK to strip away her anonymity, which we all anticipate will be respected by the Echo, just for a fairly insignificant news item.
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The Echo has breached her anonimity and plastered it over three pages
Unless they have an insider in the Police who are tracing Ip's?
If I'm not wrong, then the ECHO has used her given personal info to perform a character assassination on an ordinary member of the public.
'Ordinary'? - yes, most certainly. None of us deserve to be judged and publically humiliated by the position or reputation of our spouses, family, relatives or, indeed, friends.
isn't it hypocritical of her husband standing to represent people if his wife & possibly him feel like this about us the people of this city?
Surely she is entitled to her own opinion unless she is under the thumb from the hubby?
Do you control your wife? Do you make sure she doesn't say things you don't want others to hear?
Be fair Loosehead :-)
1/ the Echo should not have revealed her true identity.
2/ sha a councillors wife should not have printed these remarks.
I still feel he must have agreed with it & a formal apology should be made by both Mr's Thorpe & the Echo
TEBOURBA
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4:59pm Sun 2 Sep 12
freefinker
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5:10pm Sun 2 Sep 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Well, the Thorpe story was obviously an issue many wanted to discuss. Who denied us? The Echo.
Many thanks to the many cretins who hi-jacked the very important article regarding the waste of NHS resources by Dr Tongue with their comments about Thorpe.
Inform Al
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5:19pm Sun 2 Sep 12
TEBOURBA wrote:Don't consider it hijacked as multitasking is something most of us can deal with, anyway it's the Echo's fault.
Many thanks to the many cretins who hi-jacked the very important article regarding the waste of NHS resources by Dr Tongue with their comments about Thorpe.
Adlof Hilter
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7:20pm Sun 2 Sep 12
G0Rf wrote:Wrong GoRF- it ISN'T premium rate. I asked them.
Adlof Hilter wrote:quoted from BT website...."Calls to 0844 and 0871 numbers are not free and are often used as premium rate support lines"
What a shame people are still peddling the idea that NHS 0844 numbers are "premium rate". They are NOT. They cost about 0.2p yes- POINT 2 p per minute over and above the standard BT rate, and enable NHS bodies to pay for more sophisticated phone systems so you can book your appointment by phone at midnight.
Of course, if you have a Vrgine landline Sir Richard charges you 14p per minute- that is not the NHS's fault.
Meanwhile patients expect the NHS to phone them on mobiles at 10p per minute!
Oh and...why are doctors always running behind schedule? if all patients turned up then they would constantly running 30+mins behind.
If people think it is so terrible- go and register at the NU-Labour founded Darzi-Adelaide practice which costs the NHS 5 times per patient what a "normal" GP practice is paid.
Adlof Hilter
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7:22pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Vonnie wrote:Er... there ISN'T just one line- that is true for almost all surgeries now. That is precisely what the 0844 number helps with- multiple lines and call queuing. Why not register for on line access ? You clearly have the internet!
moocowpoorchick wrote:As a patient of this surgery, my experience exactly, moocowpoorchick
I was with this surgery most of my adult life but have recently moved as I could not get appointment, the arrogant rude receptionists are beyond belief, I work fulltime and rarely need to visit the gp when I do want an appointment I get told no as I have called to early or the book diary is not open for appointments etc etc, Drs at victor street are great but appointments and reception is the worst I have encountered in any walk of life!
Additionally, trying to phone to make or cancel an appointment - forget it. There are hundreds of people trying to get through on the one line in the half hour that it is open to take appointments.
I made a complaint thru the right channels and to my MP but got nowhere. I was even told that I could not make an appointment to see the surgery manager, but had to write. I did so -- nothing resolved.
The doctors are great but the system at Victor Street stinks.
Adlof Hilter
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7:24pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Inform Al wrote:Hey! Just try logging onto the Daily Wail's site and writing something that the editor disagrees with- they just don't publish it. Censorship exists all over our so-called "free press". Hypocrites of the Fourth Estate.
TEBOURBA wrote:Don't consider it hijacked as multitasking is something most of us can deal with, anyway it's the Echo's fault.
Many thanks to the many cretins who hi-jacked the very important article regarding the waste of NHS resources by Dr Tongue with their comments about Thorpe.
Vonnie
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7:33pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Adlof Hilter wrote:There IS only one line with one person answering and a constant queue of six callers waiting. After a few minutes one is cut off with a message like "please call later". Or before you get thru, one initially gets a message like " the line is busy, please call later"
Vonnie wrote:Er... there ISN'T just one line- that is true for almost all surgeries now. That is precisely what the 0844 number helps with- multiple lines and call queuing. Why not register for on line access ? You clearly have the internet!moocowpoorchick wrote: I was with this surgery most of my adult life but have recently moved as I could not get appointment, the arrogant rude receptionists are beyond belief, I work fulltime and rarely need to visit the gp when I do want an appointment I get told no as I have called to early or the book diary is not open for appointments etc etc, Drs at victor street are great but appointments and reception is the worst I have encountered in any walk of life!As a patient of this surgery, my experience exactly, moocowpoorchick Additionally, trying to phone to make or cancel an appointment - forget it. There are hundreds of people trying to get through on the one line in the half hour that it is open to take appointments. I made a complaint thru the right channels and to my MP but got nowhere. I was even told that I could not make an appointment to see the surgery manager, but had to write. I did so -- nothing resolved. The doctors are great but the system at Victor Street stinks.
Why the hell should I register for on line access? That doesn't work either, as it is constantly "down". A great many patients do not have computer access, particularly older people. All they and I want to do is make or cancel an appointment. You can't even do it face to face at the surgery because you are told to "phone between these times".
Scrutinizer
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8:50pm Sun 2 Sep 12
freefinker wrote:Yes, indeed. This is certainly of some serious concern... Perhaps we should consider exposing the real name of 'The Echo' - a certain Mr. Murray...
Scrutinizer wrote: The Echo is getting like the BBC, far too fussy about receiving comments about 'sensitive' stories. You don't get this to anything like the same extent on the U.S. news web sites... oh yes, but when the Echo says: - "The remarks were posted anonymously under the username “commnurse” – but the Daily Echo can reveal that they were written by Mrs Thorpe. " they are using the info they have held on her since she first registered to comment in these columns. We may 'hide' behind our made up names, but remember this story - it is not beyond the Echo to expose you with personal information you thought was confidential.
loosehead
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8:55pm Sun 2 Sep 12
I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
Scrutinizer
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9:09pm Sun 2 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
loosehead
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9:19pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
Scrutinizer
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9:57pm Sun 2 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Yes, if people did have to print their real names they would, I'm sure, be a lot more careful about what they say on-line. But I, myself, still much prefer to adopt the anonymous option and stick with an assumed name. I have to say though, that in a way I do kind of admire those who don't, eg. Paramjit Bahia and yourself in this respect, even if I don't necessarilly agree with some of both your comments.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are? this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology. If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your pointloosehead wrote: Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Georgem
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10:32pm Sun 2 Sep 12
Scrutinizer wrote:And southy, more or less. Ok, that's not his real name, but most of us know who he is, and he does nothing to hide it. Got to give him that.
loosehead wrote:Yes, if people did have to print their real names they would, I'm sure, be a lot more careful about what they say on-line. But I, myself, still much prefer to adopt the anonymous option and stick with an assumed name. I have to say though, that in a way I do kind of admire those who don't, eg. Paramjit Bahia and yourself in this respect, even if I don't necessarilly agree with some of both your comments.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are? this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology. If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your pointloosehead wrote: Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Scrutinizer
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12:18am Mon 3 Sep 12
Georgem wrote:Yes, and that is about the ONLY compliment he'll be getting from me!
Scrutinizer wrote:And southy, more or less. Ok, that's not his real name, but most of us know who he is, and he does nothing to hide it. Got to give him that.loosehead wrote:Yes, if people did have to print their real names they would, I'm sure, be a lot more careful about what they say on-line. But I, myself, still much prefer to adopt the anonymous option and stick with an assumed name. I have to say though, that in a way I do kind of admire those who don't, eg. Paramjit Bahia and yourself in this respect, even if I don't necessarilly agree with some of both your comments.Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are? this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology. If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your pointloosehead wrote: Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Inform Al
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10:12am Mon 3 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
loosehead
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3:01pm Mon 3 Sep 12
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
Inform Al
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3:08pm Mon 3 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
loosehead
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3:16pm Mon 3 Sep 12
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
forest hump
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9:12pm Mon 3 Sep 12
"well, sit on the couch and I'll examine you" "not allowed on the couch"
Inform Al
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9:21pm Mon 3 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:In your case I don't need to guess, you still haven't got my name right, apart from my Christian name.
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
loosehead
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9:25pm Mon 3 Sep 12
Inform Al wrote:So come on spell you're surname is it Kebble?
loosehead wrote:In your case I don't need to guess, you still haven't got my name right, apart from my Christian name.
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
Inform Al
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9:28pm Mon 3 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:No, wrong again. Are we playing 20 questions?
Inform Al wrote:So come on spell you're surname is it Kebble?
loosehead wrote:In your case I don't need to guess, you still haven't got my name right, apart from my Christian name.
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
loosehead
says...
9:45pm Mon 3 Sep 12
Inform Al wrote:No I was copying a spelling of you're name in the Echo so why is it wrong aren't you that guy who's a UKIP member but is also aligned to Labour?
loosehead wrote:No, wrong again. Are we playing 20 questions?
Inform Al wrote:So come on spell you're surname is it Kebble?
loosehead wrote:In your case I don't need to guess, you still haven't got my name right, apart from my Christian name.
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
Inform Al
says...
10:49pm Mon 3 Sep 12
loosehead wrote:Sorry, I'm definitely not a UKIP member. Think we should be out of the EU though. 17 to go.
Inform Al wrote:No I was copying a spelling of you're name in the Echo so why is it wrong aren't you that guy who's a UKIP member but is also aligned to Labour?
loosehead wrote:No, wrong again. Are we playing 20 questions?
Inform Al wrote:So come on spell you're surname is it Kebble?
loosehead wrote:In your case I don't need to guess, you still haven't got my name right, apart from my Christian name.
Inform Al wrote:It's Alan Keeble isn't it?
loosehead wrote:One day perhaps you will get my name right, in the mean time as I have had a few insults from you without having a hissy fit, I feel she is entitled to say what she likes on this site, in the same way as your obnoxious comment about her looks.
Inform Al wrote:so you like being called an inbreed by someone who looks like her then Mr Keeble?
loosehead wrote:Yes she lashed out at US, not the people of Southampton as the Echo story so blatantly claims. In fact at times I tend to agree with her when she states that all the inbreds etc of Southampton are posting here. As I count no more than 4 or 5 postees as possibly in this class, she is not guilty of defaming Southampton's residents. The Echo should be ashamed of it's open one sided political stance which caused me to stop buying it, except on Saturdays for the TV information some time ago.
Scrutinizer wrote:Sorry but after taking total abuse & threats open or hidden I would love to know who these people actually are?
loosehead wrote:But it's not all about having "...nothing to hide...", as you put it, is it?. We all know - or should by now - that people who reveal their real name on the internet expose themselves to being tracked down by some means or other by individuals and various organisations, and caused all manner of problems all over the place on-line and beyond. I'd have thought that was pretty obvious really.
Why don't we all publish our real names? I did on the Thorpe site to prove I had nothing to hide but it's gone?
this Lady was upset but in her temper lashed out at all of us & for that I feel we deserve an apology.
If we had to print our real names some of these threats or insults would not be printed but yes I can see your point
I have given up with a Person like you this so called Lady ripped into posters calling them inbred & numerous other names .
maybe if her & her husband went to a gym she wouldn't have had so much pent up anger but she openly attacked posters over a subject her father should have posted on.
I don't remember it & I didn't comment on it so please stop trying to guess the intelligence of me & other posters until you actually find out if you have any
BillyTheKid says...
1:37pm Sat 1 Sep 12
Many doctor's and dentist's surgeries have little or no parking on the premises, and are surrounded by "double yellows" stretching for miles in all directions. Factor in road works, and you have the perfect recipe for patient delay. Bitterne Health Centre have lots of parking facilities, with a fair-sized car park opposite, and a lot of nearby road parking. I wonder if they have as many missed appointments - it would be interesting to know.
"Out of town" has been the solution for businesses, with plenty of parking and ease of access away from town centre traffic congestion. Perhaps that ought to be investigated.
Another interesting "missed appointments" comparison might be between those who live within walking distance of their surgery, and those who have to use public or private transport.
I'm not claiming to have the answers !
Just making a few suggestions is all.