Final splash to halt Oaklands pool closure

Final splash to halt pool closure

Final splash to halt pool closure

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Crime Reporter

IT WILL be the last throw of the dice for campaigners fighting to stop the axe falling on their much-loved Southampton swimming pool.

Southampton City Council leaders will be forced to face an army of angry campaigners as they head inside the civic offices to make their final decision on the future of Oaklands Swimming Pool.

Thousands of leaflets have been delivered to residents across the city urging them to take part in the lastditch protest that could force council bosses into a U-turn.

As previously reported in the Daily Echo, the community pool faces being demolished under current council redevelopment plans – putting 33 jobs at risk. A consultation on the future of the pool was launched by the council after halting repairs and voting to withdraw its £233,000 annual funding from next year.

The council reckons it will cost up to £500,000 to carry out a backlog of repairs to give the pool another five to ten-year lifespan.

But opposition Tories say it will cost as little as £10,000 to fix a leak and get the pool reopened. They say the closure decision this year is costing the public tens of thousands of pounds more than it would by keeping it open.

A final decision will be made at a special council meeting on September 12, so campaigners are organising a last demonstration outside the council offices an hour before the meeting starts at 2pm.

Coxford ward Labour councillors Keith Morrell and Don Thomas, who are both under investigation for voting against party leaders on the issue, will be taking part, alongside unions Unite and Unison, who are organising the lobby.

Cllr Morrell said: “This is the last throw of the dice.

Once the decision is made on the day, there is no going back so we have to do this. This is our last chance to influence the Cabinet member and hopefully we can help change his mind.

“It could be an 11th hour decision and we need to make sure were are there putting on the pressure to make the difference.

“Councillor Thomas and I represent our constituents and this is a blow against our constituents which we think is totally unacceptable. I don’t believe there was the opportunity for alternatives to be put forward before the proposals were made. It is a failure of democracy in the Labour group.”

The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.

Mike Tucker, from Unison, added: “We have members who work there and provide a great service to the public and it is also an important community resource in a deprived area. We think the Labour council should reconsider its decision.”

The demonstration will take place outside the civic centre offices from 1pm.

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7:33pm Mon 3 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

Yaaaawn!
When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall?
Yaaaawn! When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall? J.P.M
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9:07pm Mon 3 Sep 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

J.P.M wrote:
Yaaaawn!
When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall?
pigs will fly first.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Yaaaawn! When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall?[/p][/quote]pigs will fly first. arthur dalyrimple
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9:13pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Inform Al says...

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
J.P.M wrote:
Yaaaawn!
When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall?
pigs will fly first.
They used to have their own Islander, now they share a chopper with another force.
[quote][p][bold]arthur dalyrimple[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Yaaaawn! When will this town stop behaving like a parochial village, and grow up in the town hall?[/p][/quote]pigs will fly first.[/p][/quote]They used to have their own Islander, now they share a chopper with another force. Inform Al
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9:15pm Mon 3 Sep 12

loosehead says...

They already know what they're doing with the pool.
all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick).
if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard.
They already know what they're doing with the pool. all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick). if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard. loosehead
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8:56am Tue 4 Sep 12

Independent Thought says...

I'm sure that Councillor Sally Spicer will have a change of heart and renew her commitment to 'move heaven and earth to keep Oaklands Pool open'?
I'm sure that Councillor Sally Spicer will have a change of heart and renew her commitment to 'move heaven and earth to keep Oaklands Pool open'? Independent Thought
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10:46am Tue 4 Sep 12

southy says...

loosehead wrote:
They already know what they're doing with the pool.
all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick).
if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard.
They want to carry on with the Tory plans of 2010 and that is to close it and allow Sainsburys to build a super store on Oaklands shool grounds.
The Public meetings have been set by Don, Keith and local people, and not by the Council or any Unions.
Yes I will agree with you on Labour Listens, If the Pool is reopen its would be because of the pressure that as been applied to the council and no other reason.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: They already know what they're doing with the pool. all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick). if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard.[/p][/quote]They want to carry on with the Tory plans of 2010 and that is to close it and allow Sainsburys to build a super store on Oaklands shool grounds. The Public meetings have been set by Don, Keith and local people, and not by the Council or any Unions. Yes I will agree with you on Labour Listens, If the Pool is reopen its would be because of the pressure that as been applied to the council and no other reason. southy
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10:48am Tue 4 Sep 12

southy says...

This as more to do with the GMB Union than Unison or Unite.
So where is the spokes person for the GMB, or are they selling there members down the river.
This as more to do with the GMB Union than Unison or Unite. So where is the spokes person for the GMB, or are they selling there members down the river. southy
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9:37pm Tue 4 Sep 12

loosehead says...

southy wrote:
loosehead wrote:
They already know what they're doing with the pool.
all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick).
if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard.
They want to carry on with the Tory plans of 2010 and that is to close it and allow Sainsburys to build a super store on Oaklands shool grounds.
The Public meetings have been set by Don, Keith and local people, and not by the Council or any Unions.
Yes I will agree with you on Labour Listens, If the Pool is reopen its would be because of the pressure that as been applied to the council and no other reason.
Southy the Tory plans were the Lordshill Master plan & if it had gone ahead a new pool would have been built so they're not going ahead with the Tory plans they're just knocking it down.
Why when the Tories started the save Oakland campaign do you find it necessary to attack them at every chance?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: They already know what they're doing with the pool. all these public meetings are just a smoke screen & if they've already decided to keep it open it will be because Labour listens(sick). if it's shutting at least Labour listened but no feasible alternative was heard.[/p][/quote]They want to carry on with the Tory plans of 2010 and that is to close it and allow Sainsburys to build a super store on Oaklands shool grounds. The Public meetings have been set by Don, Keith and local people, and not by the Council or any Unions. Yes I will agree with you on Labour Listens, If the Pool is reopen its would be because of the pressure that as been applied to the council and no other reason.[/p][/quote]Southy the Tory plans were the Lordshill Master plan & if it had gone ahead a new pool would have been built so they're not going ahead with the Tory plans they're just knocking it down. Why when the Tories started the save Oakland campaign do you find it necessary to attack them at every chance? loosehead
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11:34pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Crumpets89 says...

southy wrote:
This as more to do with the GMB Union than Unison or Unite.
So where is the spokes person for the GMB, or are they selling there members down the river.
I can assure you that GMB are very much behind this aswell. We all work closely together and form under 'Unite'. The staff are closely in contact with their unions of which a large proportion are GMB and know the support, encouragement and advice is there at ALL TIMES!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: This as more to do with the GMB Union than Unison or Unite. So where is the spokes person for the GMB, or are they selling there members down the river.[/p][/quote]I can assure you that GMB are very much behind this aswell. We all work closely together and form under 'Unite'. The staff are closely in contact with their unions of which a large proportion are GMB and know the support, encouragement and advice is there at ALL TIMES! Crumpets89
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9:28am Wed 5 Sep 12

Crumpets89 says...

'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.'

There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully!
'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.' There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully! Crumpets89
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9:40pm Wed 5 Sep 12

loosehead says...

Crumpets89 wrote:
'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.'

There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully!
You haven't been listening to Williams have you?
redeployed means finding temporary jobs for 8months if you can't secure a permanent position in that time Good Bye
[quote][p][bold]Crumpets89[/bold] wrote: 'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.' There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully![/p][/quote]You haven't been listening to Williams have you? redeployed means finding temporary jobs for 8months if you can't secure a permanent position in that time Good Bye loosehead
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10:56pm Wed 12 Sep 12

Crumpets89 says...

loosehead wrote:
Crumpets89 wrote:
'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.'

There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully!
You haven't been listening to Williams have you?
redeployed means finding temporary jobs for 8months if you can't secure a permanent position in that time Good Bye
Redeployment means finding you a permanent position so you dont lose your job in your current job if you are on the at risk register. I think people are brainwashed by the media an believe everything they hear or only acknowlege what they want to hear. You shouldnt take any notice. There is only 1 person so far successfully secured a permanent job within the authority everyone else is playing the waiting game.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crumpets89[/bold] wrote: 'The council insists that no decision has yet been made but Cabinet member for leisure, Cllr Warwick Payne, who has blamed the state of the pool on the previous Conservative administration, has said that 19 of the 21 full-time staff had been redeployed.' There has been 1 person redeployed, it needs to be highlighted that there is a vast difference between work placements and redeployment. You are not redeployed until you have successfully secured a permanent or fixed term placement within the authority which only 1 person so far has managed to do successfully![/p][/quote]You haven't been listening to Williams have you? redeployed means finding temporary jobs for 8months if you can't secure a permanent position in that time Good Bye[/p][/quote]Redeployment means finding you a permanent position so you dont lose your job in your current job if you are on the at risk register. I think people are brainwashed by the media an believe everything they hear or only acknowlege what they want to hear. You shouldnt take any notice. There is only 1 person so far successfully secured a permanent job within the authority everyone else is playing the waiting game. Crumpets89
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