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Affordable mooring plans scuppered
5:20am Friday 14th September 2012 in News
By Chris Yandell, Chief Reporter, New Forest
Affordable mooring plans scuppered
PLANS to provide “affordable” moorings for boat-owners have been blown out of the water – by problems likely to occur on land.
Council chiefs have rejected an application to build a small marina between Eling Great Marsh and Eling Wharf amid fears that sailors parking in nearby roads would clog the streets.
The Southampton -based Eling Marsh Yacht Association had applied for planning permission to install 30 moorings.
But the lack of parking resulted in the proposal being sunk at a meeting of New Forest District Council’s planning and development control committee.
Councillor Maureen Holding said: “The area looks very industrial and it would be nice to have a marina there. But the problem that worries me is the parking – the streets would fill up with parked vehicles.
“If that could be solved, everything else would fall into place.”
The applicants said the scheme would benefit boat owners who needed affordable moorings, but the proposal was rejected by 14 votes to two.
Comments(23)
sburman
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9:26am Fri 14 Sep 12
Datarater
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9:33am Fri 14 Sep 12
Ted Rogers
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9:49am Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.
Linesman
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9:52am Fri 14 Sep 12
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
hulla baloo
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10:33am Fri 14 Sep 12
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
southy
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10:58am Fri 14 Sep 12
Ted Rogers wrote:Ted they are not on about the the old burt bolton timber sheds (apart from they are all in use), They are on about the mooring basin from the mill bridge to the end of the old timber yard quay the quay near the pub (the concrete quay).
southy wrote:Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.
The pollution your on about has been there since the fire in the Fison storage shed, every one who was a reg at eling knew about that seepage and where it came from and why, its slowly diluting over the years.
Georgem
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10:59am Fri 14 Sep 12
hulla baloo wrote:For one, the administrative costs. There. A reason not to do it. It might not be the most wonderful reason, but until it's countered by an actual reason from the opposing angle, it wins the argument by default. Unless there's an actual reason to make the other side of the water part of Southampton, cost is as good a reason as any not to bother.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
southy
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11:01am Fri 14 Sep 12
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Shoong
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11:09am Fri 14 Sep 12
Ted Rogers wrote:If you only allow yourself 3 - 4 hours sleep a night then I suspect you'll find battles anywhere!
southy wrote:Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.
Georgem
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11:14am Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Redbridge
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11:45am Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:That's not a accurate account with EMYA, those Moorings were taken over by Eling Sailing Club and Totton & Eling Council and EMYA had only applied for 30 Moorings by Eling Great Marsh and NOT a Marina as reported.
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
I hope, now that there are concerns about Parking at Eling parking Restrictions will be put on users at Eling Sailing Club,Jet Skiers and Customers at the Anchor Pub!.
southy
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11:48am Fri 14 Sep 12
Georgem wrote:Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Boatman
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11:53am Fri 14 Sep 12
hulla baloo wrote:Because it would cost tax payers' money to do it, so unless you can identify savings greater than those costs it's a nonsensical proposal.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Georgem
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11:58am Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Georgem wrote:Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Linesman
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12:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12
hulla baloo wrote:What 'vast improvements' that have been made in Southampton over the last half-century would make anyone on the Western side of Southampton Water envious?
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
A year after the Red Arrows pilot lost his life at the Bournemouth Airshow, a monument was erected to his memory at Bournemouth.
It is now 67 years (R) 67 years since the end of WWII and leaders of all political persuasion in Southampton are still TALKING ABOUT a monument to the Spitfire.
southy
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12:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Redbridge wrote:You want to be accurate Eling% Totton council as controll on the beach, and a small part of the concrete quay, the yacht club as control of the rest of the quay wall right up to the mill and in front of the mill.
southy wrote:That's not a accurate account with EMYA, those Moorings were taken over by Eling Sailing Club and Totton & Eling Council and EMYA had only applied for 30 Moorings by Eling Great Marsh and NOT a Marina as reported.
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
I hope, now that there are concerns about Parking at Eling parking Restrictions will be put on users at Eling Sailing Club,Jet Skiers and Customers at the Anchor Pub!.
I can go back a very long time when Bob Tanner was still alive, when you use to get 4-5 lb Sea Trout running up the river Rum, when the club only had control in front of the mill, and the rest was free moorings, I watch the yacht club slowly creep up the concrete quay, i remeber the Dock board moving in and taking over the middle mud moorings.
What is not needed is another Yacht club in the area, there are way to many here in the Southampton area.
southy
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12:15pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Georgem wrote:Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
southy wrote:But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Georgem wrote:Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
the city boundry will move north-east and east.
southy
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12:20pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Georgem
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12:27pm Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:But you do understand that "it hasn't happened" is utterly useless as a reason something won't happen, I hope.
Georgem wrote:Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
southy wrote:But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Georgem wrote:Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
the city boundry will move north-east and east.
southy
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12:38pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Linesman
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7:39pm Fri 14 Sep 12
southy wrote:As you have already stated, the Western boundary will remain the River Test, but my betting is that the M27 will remain the NorthEast boundary, with Eastleigh Airport remaining in Eastleigh, and after the money that its council has invested in it, the cricket ground will also remain under Eastleigh's control.
Georgem wrote:Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
southy wrote:But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Georgem wrote:Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
southy wrote:Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
hulla baloo wrote:Because its part of the Test Valley council.
Linesman wrote:Give a good reason why it should not.
Datarater wrote:Give a good reason why this should happen.
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
the city boundry will move north-east and east.
G0Rf
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10:33pm Fri 14 Sep 12
southy says...
8:53am Fri 14 Sep 12