Affordable mooring plans scuppered

Affordable mooring plans scuppered Affordable mooring plans scuppered

PLANS to provide “affordable” moorings for boat-owners have been blown out of the water – by problems likely to occur on land.

Council chiefs have rejected an application to build a small marina between Eling Great Marsh and Eling Wharf amid fears that sailors parking in nearby roads would clog the streets.

The Southampton -based Eling Marsh Yacht Association had applied for planning permission to install 30 moorings.

But the lack of parking resulted in the proposal being sunk at a meeting of New Forest District Council’s planning and development control committee.

Councillor Maureen Holding said: “The area looks very industrial and it would be nice to have a marina there. But the problem that worries me is the parking – the streets would fill up with parked vehicles.

“If that could be solved, everything else would fall into place.”

The applicants said the scheme would benefit boat owners who needed affordable moorings, but the proposal was rejected by 14 votes to two.

Comments(23)

southy says...
8:53am Fri 14 Sep 12

Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.

sburman says...
9:26am Fri 14 Sep 12

Just testing communications

Datarater says...
9:33am Fri 14 Sep 12

It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.

Ted Rogers says...
9:49am Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.

Linesman says...
9:52am Fri 14 Sep 12

Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.

hulla baloo says...
10:33am Fri 14 Sep 12

Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.

southy says...
10:58am Fri 14 Sep 12

Ted Rogers wrote:
southy wrote:
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.
Ted they are not on about the the old burt bolton timber sheds (apart from they are all in use), They are on about the mooring basin from the mill bridge to the end of the old timber yard quay the quay near the pub (the concrete quay).
The pollution your on about has been there since the fire in the Fison storage shed, every one who was a reg at eling knew about that seepage and where it came from and why, its slowly diluting over the years.

Georgem says...
10:59am Fri 14 Sep 12

hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
For one, the administrative costs. There. A reason not to do it. It might not be the most wonderful reason, but until it's countered by an actual reason from the opposing angle, it wins the argument by default. Unless there's an actual reason to make the other side of the water part of Southampton, cost is as good a reason as any not to bother.

southy says...
11:01am Fri 14 Sep 12

hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK

Shoong says...
11:09am Fri 14 Sep 12

Ted Rogers wrote:
southy wrote:
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
Southy, not everything is a battle; sometimes it's simply progress and re-generation. Where's the value in empty sheds and units?
I'm sure with a little local interest and investment that particular area could become somewhere people want to visit. I recall there being problems in that area that stemmed from the decaying yards and failing industry, pollution of the shore line was it ?
Address the car parking issues and get it built.
If you only allow yourself 3 - 4 hours sleep a night then I suspect you'll find battles anywhere!

Georgem says...
11:14am Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".

Redbridge says...
11:45am Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
That's not a accurate account with EMYA, those Moorings were taken over by Eling Sailing Club and Totton & Eling Council and EMYA had only applied for 30 Moorings by Eling Great Marsh and NOT a Marina as reported.

I hope, now that there are concerns about Parking at Eling parking Restrictions will be put on users at Eling Sailing Club,Jet Skiers and Customers at the Anchor Pub!.

southy says...
11:48am Fri 14 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.

Boatman says...
11:53am Fri 14 Sep 12

hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because it would cost tax payers' money to do it, so unless you can identify savings greater than those costs it's a nonsensical proposal.

Georgem says...
11:58am Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?

Linesman says...
12:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12

hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
What 'vast improvements' that have been made in Southampton over the last half-century would make anyone on the Western side of Southampton Water envious?

A year after the Red Arrows pilot lost his life at the Bournemouth Airshow, a monument was erected to his memory at Bournemouth.

It is now 67 years (R) 67 years since the end of WWII and leaders of all political persuasion in Southampton are still TALKING ABOUT a monument to the Spitfire.

southy says...
12:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Redbridge wrote:
southy wrote:
Don't not trust Eling Marsh Yacht Association, They have been slowly taking over old timber yard quays area, pushing local out, Registered fishermen and people who was there before the Yacht club moved in, Many who use this area now to moor there boats there have yacht closer to where they live, this was once a free mooring basing till the Yacht club and the Docks Board moved in and took over the area.
That's not a accurate account with EMYA, those Moorings were taken over by Eling Sailing Club and Totton & Eling Council and EMYA had only applied for 30 Moorings by Eling Great Marsh and NOT a Marina as reported.

I hope, now that there are concerns about Parking at Eling parking Restrictions will be put on users at Eling Sailing Club,Jet Skiers and Customers at the Anchor Pub!.
You want to be accurate Eling% Totton council as controll on the beach, and a small part of the concrete quay, the yacht club as control of the rest of the quay wall right up to the mill and in front of the mill.
I can go back a very long time when Bob Tanner was still alive, when you use to get 4-5 lb Sea Trout running up the river Rum, when the club only had control in front of the mill, and the rest was free moorings, I watch the yacht club slowly creep up the concrete quay, i remeber the Dock board moving in and taking over the middle mud moorings.
What is not needed is another Yacht club in the area, there are way to many here in the Southampton area.

southy says...
12:15pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
the city boundry will move north-east and east.

southy says...
12:20pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Redbridge just realise what are you calling the Eling great marsh, Ealing Great marsh is the area between the Mill bridge and Marchwood-by-pass, are they suggesting ruining a nature reserve and putting in a moving bridge.

Georgem says...
12:27pm Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
the city boundry will move north-east and east.
But you do understand that "it hasn't happened" is utterly useless as a reason something won't happen, I hope.

southy says...
12:38pm Fri 14 Sep 12

I said yes Georgem, and like I said if it was going to happen it would off happened all ready, the river test is going to be that unchanging boundry line.

Linesman says...
7:39pm Fri 14 Sep 12

southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
Georgem wrote:
southy wrote:
hulla baloo wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Datarater wrote:
It's time the the west side of Southampton Water was incorporated into Southampton.
Give a good reason why this should happen.
Give a good reason why it should not.
Because its part of the Test Valley council.
I can remember when Totton was just a village it held the record for a long time off being the largest village in the UK
Well, your answer amounts to "it shouldn't happen, because it hasn't happened".
Nore can i see it ever happening, if it was going to happen it would of happened in the 70's, with in 10 years of the last city boundry change.
But you understand that "it hasn't happened" isn't a reason it shouldn't happen, right?
Yea but its not going to happen, if it was it would off happened 30 years ago, not long after they moved the city boundry from Tanners Brook to where it is today.
the city boundry will move north-east and east.
As you have already stated, the Western boundary will remain the River Test, but my betting is that the M27 will remain the NorthEast boundary, with Eastleigh Airport remaining in Eastleigh, and after the money that its council has invested in it, the cricket ground will also remain under Eastleigh's control.

G0Rf says...
10:33pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Is there anywhere to moore a boat for freein Southampton area

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