Campaign launched for Gay Pride festival in Southampton

Daily Echo: Campaigners want a Gay Pride festival in Southampton Campaigners want a Gay Pride festival in Southampton

A CAMPAIGN has been launched to bring a Gay Pride festival to Southampton .

This year there have been 38 Gay Pride festivals across the country, the biggest of which is in Brighton, attracting more than 30,000 revellers.

Campaigners want a similar event in Southampton.

Chrisie Edkins, a 31-year-old transgender singer from West End , is leading the push and has started a petition, already signed by hundreds of people backing a Gay Pride festival for the city. She claims that hosting a Pride event in Southampton will cost £15,000 and wants it to be funded from a council grant or support from the Southampton business community. Miss Edkins argued that having a Pride festival in Southampton will bring tourism to the city.

She said: “I feel that Southampton is lacking a Pride event. Most large Pride events attract a crowd from across the surrounding area. “I know a Pride event will bring people to Southampton. “It would be nice if we had this event in Southampton to celebrate our diversity and acceptance.”

She plans for the festival to be held in late 2013, marching through the city centre to Southampton Common, where there will be a stage for live music. The Edge Nightclub supports the campaign and operation manager Nicholas Lindner said: “The gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender population of Southampton deserve to be recognised. “Given the right support, I am sure that Southampton Pride could grow into a very popular annual event.”

A similar Pride event in Southampton was staged in July 2005, but it failed to gather enough support and was stopped.

A spokesman for Southampton City Council said they encourage events like a Pride Festival in Southampton but are unlikely to be able to afford the cost.

He said: “The council is keen to encourage individuals and groups to organise a wide range of events. “While we may be unable to find financial aid – we would offer the same level of support that we do for many other event organisers.”

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1:11pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Maine Lobster says...

If they want their festival, then fine, but it ought to bve self funding and no burden to the City Council.
If they want their festival, then fine, but it ought to bve self funding and no burden to the City Council. Maine Lobster

1:13pm Sun 16 Sep 12

S Pance says...

Ms Edkins,

Funding from the Council? No. There are more pressing things that need Council money.

Funding from the business community? Fine. Go out there, convince local businesses to give you the £15k and I'm sure the Council/public will support you.

Sheitma
Ms Edkins, Funding from the Council? No. There are more pressing things that need Council money. Funding from the business community? Fine. Go out there, convince local businesses to give you the £15k and I'm sure the Council/public will support you. Sheitma S Pance

1:19pm Sun 16 Sep 12

nedscrumpo says...

What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
What about a Straight Pride Festival as well? nedscrumpo

1:20pm Sun 16 Sep 12

MGRA says...

what is the point ?
what is the point ? MGRA

1:28pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

nedscrumpo wrote:
What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
Start one.

It's always the same when some minority wants to arrange something. "What about the rest of us?" comes the plaintive cry, bemoaning the fact that they, apparently, are not recognised. It never occurs to people that these events are organised by someone interested in them. They don't just happen by magic, someone has to take the initiative. You want a "straight pride"? Go make it happen. Simple enough, really.
[quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?[/p][/quote]Start one. It's always the same when some minority wants to arrange something. "What about the rest of us?" comes the plaintive cry, bemoaning the fact that they, apparently, are not recognised. It never occurs to people that these events are organised by someone interested in them. They don't just happen by magic, someone has to take the initiative. You want a "straight pride"? Go make it happen. Simple enough, really. Georgem

1:45pm Sun 16 Sep 12

bazzeroz says...

I have nothing against this type of festival but a line from the report makes me wonder 'Quote: A similar Pride event in Southampton was staged in July 2005, but it failed to gather enough support and was stopped' And let's face it, if the council was involved it would be a right old **** up! Pun intended, lol.
I have nothing against this type of festival but a line from the report makes me wonder 'Quote: A similar Pride event in Southampton was staged in July 2005, but it failed to gather enough support and was stopped' And let's face it, if the council was involved it would be a right old **** up! Pun intended, lol. bazzeroz

1:50pm Sun 16 Sep 12

MGRA says...

its a total and utter waste of time... with a pretty good pride event 50 miles along the coast, what is the point ? It would be a huge flop. There are a million and one better ways in southampton to celebrate individuality, but I think this is a dead-in-the-water idea ...
its a total and utter waste of time... with a pretty good pride event 50 miles along the coast, what is the point ? It would be a huge flop. There are a million and one better ways in southampton to celebrate individuality, but I think this is a dead-in-the-water idea ... MGRA

1:57pm Sun 16 Sep 12

fuzzyfelt says...

being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more
being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more fuzzyfelt

2:02pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Brite Spark says...

fuzzyfelt wrote:
being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more
Good points well made mate.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzyfelt[/bold] wrote: being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more[/p][/quote]Good points well made mate. Brite Spark

2:06pm Sun 16 Sep 12

G-man1 says...

A Gay Pride event would be a flop. Carnivals, festivals etc in this city generally tend to be poorly advertised, poorly attended, poorly run and generally poor all round. I`m not Gay but have attended both events in Brighton and London-both have been well run and entertaining. Can anyone seiously see such an event being anything less than embarrassing if it happened in Southampton?
A Gay Pride event would be a flop. Carnivals, festivals etc in this city generally tend to be poorly advertised, poorly attended, poorly run and generally poor all round. I`m not Gay but have attended both events in Brighton and London-both have been well run and entertaining. Can anyone seiously see such an event being anything less than embarrassing if it happened in Southampton? G-man1

2:13pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Higginz says...

Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.
Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke. Higginz

2:20pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Brite Spark wrote:
Each to their own but why dress like that and behave like they do at these events? Why can't these otherwise decent people be gay and keep quiet about it? I agree with nedscrumpo, why don't we promote a Normal Pride Festival, or would gays find that offensive? I don't understand why men are proud of being gay to be honest.
They're proud as opposed to ashamed, I suppose. I can see why it started, but I'm with you - someone's sexuality, regardless of what it is, is neither a matter of shame nor pride: it's just a facet of their character, and nothing more.
[quote][p][bold]Brite Spark[/bold] wrote: Each to their own but why dress like that and behave like they do at these events? Why can't these otherwise decent people be gay and keep quiet about it? I agree with nedscrumpo, why don't we promote a Normal Pride Festival, or would gays find that offensive? I don't understand why men are proud of being gay to be honest.[/p][/quote]They're proud as opposed to ashamed, I suppose. I can see why it started, but I'm with you - someone's sexuality, regardless of what it is, is neither a matter of shame nor pride: it's just a facet of their character, and nothing more. Georgem

2:24pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

fuzzyfelt wrote:
being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more
I caught some of Pride NYC earlier in the year, and entertaining though it was, I did wonder how relevant it is these days. Of course, NYC was where the entire gay rights movement really started, but these days being openly gay is accepted in a major chunk of the world. Like you say, Pride seems to embrace the stereotypes that are brought on by, or invite, prejudice.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzyfelt[/bold] wrote: being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more[/p][/quote]I caught some of Pride NYC earlier in the year, and entertaining though it was, I did wonder how relevant it is these days. Of course, NYC was where the entire gay rights movement really started, but these days being openly gay is accepted in a major chunk of the world. Like you say, Pride seems to embrace the stereotypes that are brought on by, or invite, prejudice. Georgem

2:24pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

chunky_lover wrote:
Higginz wrote:
Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.
haha so true!
Relevant username?
[quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.[/p][/quote]haha so true![/p][/quote]Relevant username? Georgem

3:02pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Higginz says...

Georgem wrote:
chunky_lover wrote:
Higginz wrote: Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.
haha so true!
Relevant username?
Indeed. It's based on Professor Higgins from My Fair Lady. I forget the reason for the choice now though.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.[/p][/quote]haha so true![/p][/quote]Relevant username?[/p][/quote]Indeed. It's based on Professor Higgins from My Fair Lady. I forget the reason for the choice now though. Higginz

3:16pm Sun 16 Sep 12

eurogordi says...

nedscrumpo wrote:
What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
Here, Here !

I have nothing against the GLBT community, but I do not understand why Gay Pride has to be such an over the top statement of how some people are. I don't go around in extrovert clothing to prove I am straight!
[quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?[/p][/quote]Here, Here ! I have nothing against the GLBT community, but I do not understand why Gay Pride has to be such an over the top statement of how some people are. I don't go around in extrovert clothing to prove I am straight! eurogordi

3:21pm Sun 16 Sep 12

eurogordi says...

fuzzyfelt wrote:
being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more
Very well said.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzyfelt[/bold] wrote: being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more[/p][/quote]Very well said. eurogordi

3:39pm Sun 16 Sep 12

MGRA says...

fuzzyfelt wrote:
being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more
spot on....
[quote][p][bold]fuzzyfelt[/bold] wrote: being gay myself i tend to believe that we are now accepted by (most) of the so called normals that we dont need a pride festival to show off the stereotypes expected of us ....most gay venues are struggling and those that arent are in central london or like the London Hotel and the Edge are frequented mostly by straight people or students, alternatively those of us who aren't camp screaming stereotypes can be found with our friends in any bar or club in town you may care to mention . im not distancing myself from my gay peers i just dont see myself reflected in them much any more[/p][/quote]spot on.... MGRA

3:43pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

eurogordi wrote:
nedscrumpo wrote:
What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
Here, Here !

I have nothing against the GLBT community, but I do not understand why Gay Pride has to be such an over the top statement of how some people are. I don't go around in extrovert clothing to prove I am straight!
Well, to be fair, nobody's ever had to hide the fact that they're straight, just to fit into 'normal' society. I understand why the Pride movement started, but it's worked - nobody cares if you're gay any more.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?[/p][/quote]Here, Here ! I have nothing against the GLBT community, but I do not understand why Gay Pride has to be such an over the top statement of how some people are. I don't go around in extrovert clothing to prove I am straight![/p][/quote]Well, to be fair, nobody's ever had to hide the fact that they're straight, just to fit into 'normal' society. I understand why the Pride movement started, but it's worked - nobody cares if you're gay any more. Georgem

3:53pm Sun 16 Sep 12

McSholing says...

Show how proud you are of liberal England. Start off from the main mosque.
Show how proud you are of liberal England. Start off from the main mosque. McSholing

3:57pm Sun 16 Sep 12

justanobody says...

I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong.
There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups.

The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many.
A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events.

Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success.

Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it.
damned if you do damned if you don't.
Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive
I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong. There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups. The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many. A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events. Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success. Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it. damned if you do damned if you don't. Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive justanobody

4:14pm Sun 16 Sep 12

sparkster says...

Im not homophobic but i think with one of the other posters i feel that this event shouldnt be funded by the council
Im not homophobic but i think with one of the other posters i feel that this event shouldnt be funded by the council sparkster

4:18pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Jonnyshepherd says...

If someone questioned the need for say, the Notting Hill Carnival, there would be general outrage and accusations of racism. Why is it any different for the need for a LGBT Pride? Both events are celebrations of the culture of a minority population, in all its various forms. And both events are open to the wider community too,
If someone questioned the need for say, the Notting Hill Carnival, there would be general outrage and accusations of racism. Why is it any different for the need for a LGBT Pride? Both events are celebrations of the culture of a minority population, in all its various forms. And both events are open to the wider community too, Jonnyshepherd

4:21pm Sun 16 Sep 12

justanobody says...

I agree that the local council should not have to fund it, they shouldn't have to fund any event that celebrates anyones Culture, sexuality etc.
There are a great deal of other things that deserve that money in the current climate, where all walks of life get to benefit.

just bear in mind that the current weather has caused no end of cancelled events this year, the Mela festival lost £70K this year due to bad weather.
insurance is key.
Brightons Pride event, Policing cost them £18k alone this year!
I agree that the local council should not have to fund it, they shouldn't have to fund any event that celebrates anyones Culture, sexuality etc. There are a great deal of other things that deserve that money in the current climate, where all walks of life get to benefit. just bear in mind that the current weather has caused no end of cancelled events this year, the Mela festival lost £70K this year due to bad weather. insurance is key. Brightons Pride event, Policing cost them £18k alone this year! justanobody

4:21pm Sun 16 Sep 12

justanobody says...

Jonnyshepherd wrote:
If someone questioned the need for say, the Notting Hill Carnival, there would be general outrage and accusations of racism. Why is it any different for the need for a LGBT Pride? Both events are celebrations of the culture of a minority population, in all its various forms. And both events are open to the wider community too,
Absolutely!
[quote][p][bold]Jonnyshepherd[/bold] wrote: If someone questioned the need for say, the Notting Hill Carnival, there would be general outrage and accusations of racism. Why is it any different for the need for a LGBT Pride? Both events are celebrations of the culture of a minority population, in all its various forms. And both events are open to the wider community too,[/p][/quote]Absolutely! justanobody

5:07pm Sun 16 Sep 12

wilson castaway says...

Me and my gbf have had a brilliant idea ... Why not have a gay pride/balloon festival...imagine all the flowers...
Me and my gbf have had a brilliant idea ... Why not have a gay pride/balloon festival...imagine all the flowers... wilson castaway

5:13pm Sun 16 Sep 12

sotonbusdriver says...

I can think of much better things the Council could spend £15000 on, rather than a Parade, carnival of any sort, for any sexual gender.
There is streetlight that needs improving, roads need repairing, community centres that need upgrading, which who benefit a larger number of people and have a lasting effect.
Rather than 4 minutes glory for a minority so to speak.
The Council have pleaded POVERTY the past few years, limited pay increase for staff, reduced jobs within the Council, yet by this article would give best part of a persons yearly wage away for a little event that is well covered in many other local communities along the coast...
I can think of much better things the Council could spend £15000 on, rather than a Parade, carnival of any sort, for any sexual gender. There is streetlight that needs improving, roads need repairing, community centres that need upgrading, which who benefit a larger number of people and have a lasting effect. Rather than 4 minutes glory for a minority so to speak. The Council have pleaded POVERTY the past few years, limited pay increase for staff, reduced jobs within the Council, yet by this article would give best part of a persons yearly wage away for a little event that is well covered in many other local communities along the coast... sotonbusdriver

5:36pm Sun 16 Sep 12

spike80256 says...

wast of money
wast of money spike80256

5:36pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Georgem says...

justanobody wrote:
I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong.
There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups.

The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many.
A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events.

Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success.

Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it.
damned if you do damned if you don't.
Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive
What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide.
[quote][p][bold]justanobody[/bold] wrote: I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong. There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups. The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many. A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events. Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success. Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it. damned if you do damned if you don't. Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive[/p][/quote]What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide. Georgem

5:53pm Sun 16 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

I have no issue in a festival of any kind, but I suggest that maybe venues such as The Edge start holding events to raise money. I would assume they would want a beer tent at the festival, so get them to help pay for it.

My personal thought is that I see no need in a 'pride', I fear that on one hand people ask to be treated normally in society and then on the other hand go and hold an event such as this, thus causing a segregation again.
I have no issue in a festival of any kind, but I suggest that maybe venues such as The Edge start holding events to raise money. I would assume they would want a beer tent at the festival, so get them to help pay for it. My personal thought is that I see no need in a 'pride', I fear that on one hand people ask to be treated normally in society and then on the other hand go and hold an event such as this, thus causing a segregation again. IronLady2010

5:54pm Sun 16 Sep 12

S Pance says...

Georgem wrote:
nedscrumpo wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
Start one. It's always the same when some minority wants to arrange something. "What about the rest of us?" comes the plaintive cry, bemoaning the fact that they, apparently, are not recognised. It never occurs to people that these events are organised by someone interested in them. They don't just happen by magic, someone has to take the initiative. You want a "straight pride"? Go make it happen. Simple enough, really.
If this gay pride event gets £15k from the council then I certainly will be putting in an application for a straight pride one!

Obviously, the council wouldn't want to discriminate ans will give an equal amount of money...

Just goes to show that the council should refuse to fund this event, otherwise they'll have to give equal money to similar events.

(What business does is up to them)
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?[/p][/quote]Start one. It's always the same when some minority wants to arrange something. "What about the rest of us?" comes the plaintive cry, bemoaning the fact that they, apparently, are not recognised. It never occurs to people that these events are organised by someone interested in them. They don't just happen by magic, someone has to take the initiative. You want a "straight pride"? Go make it happen. Simple enough, really.[/p][/quote]If this gay pride event gets £15k from the council then I certainly will be putting in an application for a straight pride one! Obviously, the council wouldn't want to discriminate ans will give an equal amount of money... Just goes to show that the council should refuse to fund this event, otherwise they'll have to give equal money to similar events. (What business does is up to them) S Pance

6:10pm Sun 16 Sep 12

fuzzyfelt says...

Georgem wrote:
justanobody wrote:
I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong.
There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups.

The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many.
A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events.

Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success.

Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it.
damned if you do damned if you don't.
Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive
What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide.
still true sir , the main stereotypes are the ones who curl my toes up , and they too are the ones who encounter a large amount of the homophobia .......
what does or doesnt go on in a persons bedroom is their business . some straight men feel threatened for what ever reason but beating up a camp queen surley makes them weaker in all but the most rose tinted specticals
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justanobody[/bold] wrote: I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong. There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups. The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many. A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events. Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success. Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it. damned if you do damned if you don't. Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive[/p][/quote]What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide.[/p][/quote]still true sir , the main stereotypes are the ones who curl my toes up , and they too are the ones who encounter a large amount of the homophobia ....... what does or doesnt go on in a persons bedroom is their business . some straight men feel threatened for what ever reason but beating up a camp queen surley makes them weaker in all but the most rose tinted specticals fuzzyfelt

6:21pm Sun 16 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

Maybe moving forward the Council could help fund a mutli-cultural festival? One big festival, with 'areas' for all walks of life.... A Gay area, Indian, African, Thai etc etc.

Then the entire Southampton community could mix together and have fun.
Maybe moving forward the Council could help fund a mutli-cultural festival? One big festival, with 'areas' for all walks of life.... A Gay area, Indian, African, Thai etc etc. Then the entire Southampton community could mix together and have fun. IronLady2010

6:31pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Inform Al says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Maybe moving forward the Council could help fund a mutli-cultural festival? One big festival, with 'areas' for all walks of life.... A Gay area, Indian, African, Thai etc etc.

Then the entire Southampton community could mix together and have fun.
100% agree, Of course vwe used to have a big festival on the common. if it's revived it should as you say be for all. I couldn't give a monkey's what sexuality others might profess just so long as any blue eyed, busty bird that wants to plant a kiss on me doesn't object to my Bogie Street 'hand' shake while I make sure.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: Maybe moving forward the Council could help fund a mutli-cultural festival? One big festival, with 'areas' for all walks of life.... A Gay area, Indian, African, Thai etc etc. Then the entire Southampton community could mix together and have fun.[/p][/quote]100% agree, Of course vwe used to have a big festival on the common. if it's revived it should as you say be for all. I couldn't give a monkey's what sexuality others might profess just so long as any blue eyed, busty bird that wants to plant a kiss on me doesn't object to my Bogie Street 'hand' shake while I make sure. Inform Al

6:41pm Sun 16 Sep 12

ReverendPaul says...

I do not have any issues with people celebrating their own identities and have attended Pride in Brighton on many occasions. I also minister an Inclusive and affirming community. However, we all know that the Councils are not in a posistion to fund these events and there is a need for lgbt groups to arrange fundraising and sponsorship which is difficult in the current climate. I am sure that there is a greater need for a festival of diversity - where all people can join together for an event that is open to everyone rather than one particular group of people. If the pride festival goes ahead, I am more than happy to add my support but even more support to a festival of diversity
I do not have any issues with people celebrating their own identities and have attended Pride in Brighton on many occasions. I also minister an Inclusive and affirming community. However, we all know that the Councils are not in a posistion to fund these events and there is a need for lgbt groups to arrange fundraising and sponsorship which is difficult in the current climate. I am sure that there is a greater need for a festival of diversity - where all people can join together for an event that is open to everyone rather than one particular group of people. If the pride festival goes ahead, I am more than happy to add my support but even more support to a festival of diversity ReverendPaul

6:58pm Sun 16 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry.

I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway).
Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry. I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway). cantthinkofone

6:59pm Sun 16 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

To add - I agree with the Rev above, that an all-encompassing festival would be even better.
To add - I agree with the Rev above, that an all-encompassing festival would be even better. cantthinkofone

7:05pm Sun 16 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry.

I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway).
It is working in chrome, there is a . at the end of the link, ensure you remove it

change.org/petitions
/southampton-to-have
-a-lgbt-pride-southa
mpton-council-govern
ment-to-recognise-th
e-need-for-a-pride
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry. I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway).[/p][/quote]It is working in chrome, there is a . at the end of the link, ensure you remove it change.org/petitions /southampton-to-have -a-lgbt-pride-southa mpton-council-govern ment-to-recognise-th e-need-for-a-pride IronLady2010

7:50pm Sun 16 Sep 12

kevin007 says...

Council shouldnt fund this when people are losing their jobs.
Council shouldnt fund this when people are losing their jobs. kevin007

8:03pm Sun 16 Sep 12

Scrutinizer says...

I'm really do wonder if public money should be spent on events like this kind of thing now. 25 years ago, ok, but surely not these days? Society is significantly much more enlightened than it was back then, when I could see a need to financially (and otherwise) support this kind of cause. But there are, no doubt, plenty of homosexual and lesbian organisations, and especially wealthy individuals who are of either sexual orientation, who could quite comfortably fund this kind of thing. But I do wonder if local authorities are afraid to turn down requests for funding of this nature, in particular Labour administrated ones. By the way, just to be clear and to state my general position on homosexuals and lesbians. I have no problem with either. And I'm completely in favour of them having equal rights with heterosexuals in our society, including marriage.
I'm really do wonder if public money should be spent on events like this kind of thing now. 25 years ago, ok, but surely not these days? Society is significantly much more enlightened than it was back then, when I could see a need to financially (and otherwise) support this kind of cause. But there are, no doubt, plenty of homosexual and lesbian organisations, and especially wealthy individuals who are of either sexual orientation, who could quite comfortably fund this kind of thing. But I do wonder if local authorities are afraid to turn down requests for funding of this nature, in particular Labour administrated ones. By the way, just to be clear and to state my general position on homosexuals and lesbians. I have no problem with either. And I'm completely in favour of them having equal rights with heterosexuals in our society, including marriage. Scrutinizer

8:19pm Sun 16 Sep 12

nedscrumpo says...

I'm sure all those who took a pay cut will be over the moon to see their money spent on such frivolity.
I'm sure all those who took a pay cut will be over the moon to see their money spent on such frivolity. nedscrumpo

8:30pm Sun 16 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry.

I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway).
It is working in chrome, there is a . at the end of the link, ensure you remove it

change.org/petitions

/southampton-to-have

-a-lgbt-pride-southa

mpton-council-govern

ment-to-recognise-th

e-need-for-a-pride
Nope, still not working. Possibly due to an extension I have installed or something.

Not to worry though, I resorted to IE. Signed.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Having lived in various parts of the country, when I moved to Southampton I was struck by how commonplace casual racism and homophobia are. As such, I'd support any attempt to push back against this bigotry. I'd happily sign the petition, but the link appears not to be working (in Chrome anyway).[/p][/quote]It is working in chrome, there is a . at the end of the link, ensure you remove it change.org/petitions /southampton-to-have -a-lgbt-pride-southa mpton-council-govern ment-to-recognise-th e-need-for-a-pride[/p][/quote]Nope, still not working. Possibly due to an extension I have installed or something. Not to worry though, I resorted to IE. Signed. cantthinkofone

11:02pm Sun 16 Sep 12

MGRA says...

I do not like seeing two guys kissing... its makes me feel "urghh".. BUT the thought of tow guys kissing in private because they love each other makes me feel rather happy... thats the thing that we are ... Human !! somethings just do not make sense , or do they ? I am DNA programmed to be attracted to females so the species keeps going so it makes perfect sense. I have homosexual friends, have no problem with them or their lifestyles at all,,, but,,,, am DNA programmed to find watching it uncomfortable. Thats the reality. I am no "phobic", its just science.
I do not like seeing two guys kissing... its makes me feel "urghh".. BUT the thought of tow guys kissing in private because they love each other makes me feel rather happy... thats the thing that we are ... Human !! somethings just do not make sense , or do they ? I am DNA programmed to be attracted to females so the species keeps going so it makes perfect sense. I have homosexual friends, have no problem with them or their lifestyles at all,,, but,,,, am DNA programmed to find watching it uncomfortable. Thats the reality. I am no "phobic", its just science. MGRA

11:04pm Sun 16 Sep 12

chunky_lover says...

Higginz wrote:
Georgem wrote:
chunky_lover wrote:
Higginz wrote: Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.
haha so true!
Relevant username?
Indeed. It's based on Professor Higgins from My Fair Lady. I forget the reason for the choice now though.
haha, it's homer simpsons handle. personally im not a fan of the overweight.
[quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chunky_lover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Thick, pretty, chubby bird pride, round at mine on Tuesdays. Bring your own diet coke.[/p][/quote]haha so true![/p][/quote]Relevant username?[/p][/quote]Indeed. It's based on Professor Higgins from My Fair Lady. I forget the reason for the choice now though.[/p][/quote]haha, it's homer simpsons handle. personally im not a fan of the overweight. chunky_lover

11:09pm Sun 16 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

MGRA wrote:
I do not like seeing two guys kissing... its makes me feel "urghh".. BUT the thought of tow guys kissing in private because they love each other makes me feel rather happy... thats the thing that we are ... Human !! somethings just do not make sense , or do they ? I am DNA programmed to be attracted to females so the species keeps going so it makes perfect sense. I have homosexual friends, have no problem with them or their lifestyles at all,,, but,,,, am DNA programmed to find watching it uncomfortable. Thats the reality. I am no "phobic", its just science.
If we're all honest with each other, it matters not who is kissing. Walking past a 'straight' couple with tongues down the throat isn't exactly a pleasant sight.

People should be allowed to do what ever they want within the Law. Maybe we just ban snogging in public ;-)
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: I do not like seeing two guys kissing... its makes me feel "urghh".. BUT the thought of tow guys kissing in private because they love each other makes me feel rather happy... thats the thing that we are ... Human !! somethings just do not make sense , or do they ? I am DNA programmed to be attracted to females so the species keeps going so it makes perfect sense. I have homosexual friends, have no problem with them or their lifestyles at all,,, but,,,, am DNA programmed to find watching it uncomfortable. Thats the reality. I am no "phobic", its just science.[/p][/quote]If we're all honest with each other, it matters not who is kissing. Walking past a 'straight' couple with tongues down the throat isn't exactly a pleasant sight. People should be allowed to do what ever they want within the Law. Maybe we just ban snogging in public ;-) IronLady2010

12:32am Mon 17 Sep 12

Shoong says...

Fine, have your party, just pay for it yourselves.
Fine, have your party, just pay for it yourselves. Shoong

9:09am Mon 17 Sep 12

Linesman says...

nedscrumpo wrote:
What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?
Would there be enough for a parade?
[quote][p][bold]nedscrumpo[/bold] wrote: What about a Straight Pride Festival as well?[/p][/quote]Would there be enough for a parade? Linesman

9:38am Mon 17 Sep 12

Reality-man says...

Not In My Back Door.....Sorry i mean yard
Not In My Back Door.....Sorry i mean yard Reality-man

10:09am Mon 17 Sep 12

For pity sake says...

spike80256 wrote:
wast of money
Wast(e) of an education.
[quote][p][bold]spike80256[/bold] wrote: wast of money[/p][/quote]Wast(e) of an education. For pity sake

10:29am Mon 17 Sep 12

JTW says...

Some of the Homophobic comments on here prove there is a need for a Gay pride still. If smaller towns like Bournemouth, Swindon and Reading can fund a pride there is no reason Southampton cant.

Seems like a double standard when £70,000 of public money is given to the Mela festival and they can’t even spare a small amount of £15,000 when smaller councils with less funding can.
I won’t be voting for this council next election.
Some of the Homophobic comments on here prove there is a need for a Gay pride still. If smaller towns like Bournemouth, Swindon and Reading can fund a pride there is no reason Southampton cant. Seems like a double standard when £70,000 of public money is given to the Mela festival and they can’t even spare a small amount of £15,000 when smaller councils with less funding can. I won’t be voting for this council next election. JTW

10:39am Mon 17 Sep 12

CyberWarrior says...

Makes me laugh how an article about a Gay Pride festival has rapidly turned into a Trollfest! Anyway, the gay scene in Southampton is dire and has been for some years. Apart from The London there is no nice venue for gay grown ups to frequent. The owners of the iSobar & The Edge still haven't worked out that your average punter doen NOT want to listen to **** pop that makes the ears bleed - they want to listen to quality music and real DJs. Last time I had a night out at The Edge I thought I'd passed out and woken up a a kiddie's disco ("I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world" FFS!!) I miss the old days of the Magnum where the music was often top drawer and people of all creeds just went there to dance. You always knew you'd get some top tunage with the added bonus of not being hassled by lecherous/agressive/
ignorant/homophobic w@nkers. Until such time as we have a gay club that gay people actually want to use ('cos at the moment there is no choice) that caters for punters accross the spectrum Pride festivals should stay in Brighton, Bournemouth and London.
Makes me laugh how an article about a Gay Pride festival has rapidly turned into a Trollfest! Anyway, the gay scene in Southampton is dire and has been for some years. Apart from The London there is no nice venue for gay grown ups to frequent. The owners of the iSobar & The Edge still haven't worked out that your average punter doen NOT want to listen to **** pop that makes the ears bleed - they want to listen to quality music and real DJs. Last time I had a night out at The Edge I thought I'd passed out and woken up a a kiddie's disco ("I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world" FFS!!) I miss the old days of the Magnum where the music was often top drawer and people of all creeds just went there to dance. You always knew you'd get some top tunage with the added bonus of not being hassled by lecherous/agressive/ ignorant/homophobic w@nkers. Until such time as we have a gay club that gay people actually want to use ('cos at the moment there is no choice) that caters for punters accross the spectrum Pride festivals should stay in Brighton, Bournemouth and London. CyberWarrior

12:19pm Mon 17 Sep 12

HannahBoo3131 says...

How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments?

A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country.

There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools!

You have nothing to fear from it, trust me.

Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit.

Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London.

It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth.

Well newsflash. You don't speak for me.

Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help.
How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments? A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country. There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools! You have nothing to fear from it, trust me. Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit. Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London. It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth. Well newsflash. You don't speak for me. Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help. HannahBoo3131

12:25pm Mon 17 Sep 12

bikerkid says...

All this talk about Adam & eve etc, just goes to show how uneducated people are. The bible can be manipulated to suit most outcomes and beliefs,seriously people, hard to believe its 2012!!!.
All this talk about Adam & eve etc, just goes to show how uneducated people are. The bible can be manipulated to suit most outcomes and beliefs,seriously people, hard to believe its 2012!!!. bikerkid

1:20pm Mon 17 Sep 12

xenolizes says...

HannahBoo3131 wrote:
How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments?

A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country.

There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools!

You have nothing to fear from it, trust me.

Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit.

Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London.

It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth.

Well newsflash. You don't speak for me.

Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help.
Absolutely agree, im not one to flaunt the fact i am gay, in fact most people assume im straight until i mention otherwise. But reading some of the comments on this article makes me really want to support this pride event.

And as for ohec's comment "Idiot i might be sick and depraved i am not" your true colours are really shining now arent they! How am i sick and depraved for loving another man and experiencing the world together? how does that differ from a straight relationship?? love is love at the end of the day.
[quote][p][bold]HannahBoo3131[/bold] wrote: How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments? A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country. There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools! You have nothing to fear from it, trust me. Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit. Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London. It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth. Well newsflash. You don't speak for me. Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree, im not one to flaunt the fact i am gay, in fact most people assume im straight until i mention otherwise. But reading some of the comments on this article makes me really want to support this pride event. And as for ohec's comment "Idiot i might be sick and depraved i am not" your true colours are really shining now arent they! How am i sick and depraved for loving another man and experiencing the world together? how does that differ from a straight relationship?? love is love at the end of the day. xenolizes

2:43pm Mon 17 Sep 12

rightway says...

A person’s sexuality is their own business, but why should I as a taxpayer help fund this ridiculous parade, if you want it you pay for it.
There are worthier causes money could be allocated to than this kind of self-indulgent spectacle.
A person’s sexuality is their own business, but why should I as a taxpayer help fund this ridiculous parade, if you want it you pay for it. There are worthier causes money could be allocated to than this kind of self-indulgent spectacle. rightway

2:58pm Mon 17 Sep 12

KA says...

xenolizes wrote:
HannahBoo3131 wrote:
How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments?

A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country.

There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools!

You have nothing to fear from it, trust me.

Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit.

Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London.

It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth.

Well newsflash. You don't speak for me.

Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help.
Absolutely agree, im not one to flaunt the fact i am gay, in fact most people assume im straight until i mention otherwise. But reading some of the comments on this article makes me really want to support this pride event.

And as for ohec's comment "Idiot i might be sick and depraved i am not" your true colours are really shining now arent they! How am i sick and depraved for loving another man and experiencing the world together? how does that differ from a straight relationship?? love is love at the end of the day.
Well said...
[quote][p][bold]xenolizes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HannahBoo3131[/bold] wrote: How out of date ARE some of these bigoted comments? A straight Pride? You can see one in every nightclub in the country. There is nothing wrong with a minority group coming together to celebrate a unique identity. Plenty of straight people also attend Pride you ignorant fools! You have nothing to fear from it, trust me. Why must people dress like that? Well why shouldn't they? They are not forcing you to follow suit. Other precedents have been set, re the celebration of unique culture, a massive one being the Notting Hill Carnival in London. It is attitudes such as these that push the LGBTQ community back into the shadows, because a bunch of NIMBI's think they speak the gospel truth. Well newsflash. You don't speak for me. Ironically though, such bigotry as that displayed by some posters here underlines the need for a Pride. So thanks for your help.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree, im not one to flaunt the fact i am gay, in fact most people assume im straight until i mention otherwise. But reading some of the comments on this article makes me really want to support this pride event. And as for ohec's comment "Idiot i might be sick and depraved i am not" your true colours are really shining now arent they! How am i sick and depraved for loving another man and experiencing the world together? how does that differ from a straight relationship?? love is love at the end of the day.[/p][/quote]Well said... KA

3:10pm Mon 17 Sep 12

JTW says...

Makes me laugh just seen the article "Southampton City Council’s £50,000 community chest open for grants" But in this story a council spokesmen said they are unlikely to be able to fund this event.
Seems like any other minority group can get funding apart from the LGBT.
Southampton city council seem to do very little for the Gay community.

Will be interesting to know how much money in total the Council has given to Events for other minority groups.
Makes me laugh just seen the article "Southampton City Council’s £50,000 community chest open for grants" But in this story a council spokesmen said they are unlikely to be able to fund this event. Seems like any other minority group can get funding apart from the LGBT. Southampton city council seem to do very little for the Gay community. Will be interesting to know how much money in total the Council has given to Events for other minority groups. JTW

3:47pm Mon 17 Sep 12

seventh-junction says...

McSholing wrote:
Show how proud you are of liberal England. Start off from the main mosque.
Spot on
[quote][p][bold]McSholing[/bold] wrote: Show how proud you are of liberal England. Start off from the main mosque.[/p][/quote]Spot on seventh-junction

3:53pm Mon 17 Sep 12

jediprincess says...

after reading loads of responses it shows that there is need for a pride festival,

and people saying why pay for this when there are other things that need fixing ect, they are two very different budgets, councils have their budgets split for different things.

as a tax payer you don't want you money being spent on this?
what about all the GLBT people who pay tax and council tax?

i support this pride event and fingers crossed it will go ahead and bring southampton and surrounding cities closer
after reading loads of responses it shows that there is need for a pride festival, and people saying why pay for this when there are other things that need fixing ect, they are two very different budgets, councils have their budgets split for different things. as a tax payer you don't want you money being spent on this? what about all the GLBT people who pay tax and council tax? i support this pride event and fingers crossed it will go ahead and bring southampton and surrounding cities closer jediprincess

4:19pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Inform Al says...

jediprincess wrote:
after reading loads of responses it shows that there is need for a pride festival,

and people saying why pay for this when there are other things that need fixing ect, they are two very different budgets, councils have their budgets split for different things.

as a tax payer you don't want you money being spent on this?
what about all the GLBT people who pay tax and council tax?

i support this pride event and fingers crossed it will go ahead and bring southampton and surrounding cities closer
I have no objection to any group organising an event using their own finance. The best events I have seen recently in Southampton are those organised by the Sikh temples, I'm very sure those fantastic colourful displays do not cost the rest of us any money. So if you want it, you pay for it.
[quote][p][bold]jediprincess[/bold] wrote: after reading loads of responses it shows that there is need for a pride festival, and people saying why pay for this when there are other things that need fixing ect, they are two very different budgets, councils have their budgets split for different things. as a tax payer you don't want you money being spent on this? what about all the GLBT people who pay tax and council tax? i support this pride event and fingers crossed it will go ahead and bring southampton and surrounding cities closer[/p][/quote]I have no objection to any group organising an event using their own finance. The best events I have seen recently in Southampton are those organised by the Sikh temples, I'm very sure those fantastic colourful displays do not cost the rest of us any money. So if you want it, you pay for it. Inform Al

4:44pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Georgem says...

I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in. Georgem

4:58pm Mon 17 Sep 12

rightway says...

bikerkid wrote:
All this talk about Adam & eve etc, just goes to show how uneducated people are. The bible can be manipulated to suit most outcomes and beliefs,seriously people, hard to believe its 2012!!!.
I don't think there has been that much talk about Adam and Eve on here, but if you do want to bring the bible onto the discussion please remember it was,
Adam and Eve
not
Adam and Steve
[quote][p][bold]bikerkid[/bold] wrote: All this talk about Adam & eve etc, just goes to show how uneducated people are. The bible can be manipulated to suit most outcomes and beliefs,seriously people, hard to believe its 2012!!!.[/p][/quote]I don't think there has been that much talk about Adam and Eve on here, but if you do want to bring the bible onto the discussion please remember it was, Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve rightway

5:35pm Mon 17 Sep 12

mack chinnon says...

Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone.
On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.
Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone. On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella. mack chinnon

6:49pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Inform Al says...

Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'. Inform Al

7:30pm Mon 17 Sep 12

skin2000 says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone.
On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.
Shall I put you down for 2 tickets?
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone. On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.[/p][/quote]Shall I put you down for 2 tickets? skin2000

7:41pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you. Georgem

8:02pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Paraletic says...

Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun. Paraletic

10:02pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
[quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now. Georgem

10:07pm Mon 17 Sep 12

Inform Al says...

Georgem wrote:
Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
Stop playing it then
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.[/p][/quote]Stop playing it then Inform Al

12:31am Tue 18 Sep 12

kingnotail says...

mack chinnon says...
5:35pm Mon 17 Sep 12
Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone.
On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.

Ha ha ha only in Southampton - the most backward city in the UK, where most of the poorly educated, inbred, and all round unpleasant locals still think it is the 1970s.
mack chinnon says... 5:35pm Mon 17 Sep 12 Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone. On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella. Ha ha ha only in Southampton - the most backward city in the UK, where most of the poorly educated, inbred, and all round unpleasant locals still think it is the 1970s. kingnotail

8:40am Tue 18 Sep 12

sarfhamton says...

I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.
I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales. sarfhamton

9:42am Tue 18 Sep 12

Georgem says...

Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
Stop playing it then
Where have I played it?
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.[/p][/quote]Stop playing it then[/p][/quote]Where have I played it? Georgem

10:10am Tue 18 Sep 12

Georgem says...

sarfhamton wrote:
I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.
The feather boa income alone would be phenomenal.
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.[/p][/quote]The feather boa income alone would be phenomenal. Georgem

11:15am Tue 18 Sep 12

justanobody says...

Lots of people focusing on the financial side of it. is this to cover up there own negative feelings about the LGBT community.

Finance could be raised by selling pitches to catering vans, stall holders, Car Parking, etc, as well as the licensing rights for the bars. It depends on what the council will allow them to charge.
Like Brighton, it may have to a be paid entry as well to ensure that the numbers are managed, but that would then put off people attending, but would ensure the security of everyone involved against those who may attend purely to object to such things.
Brighton pride for the past 5/6 years have made a loss due to bad management, and the council there have had to bail it out.
This year it has been a huge success manageing to give back thousands to local charities within the city. - It has been going for 20 years and still find it difficult to ensure it goes ahead.
Lots of people focusing on the financial side of it. is this to cover up there own negative feelings about the LGBT community. Finance could be raised by selling pitches to catering vans, stall holders, Car Parking, etc, as well as the licensing rights for the bars. It depends on what the council will allow them to charge. Like Brighton, it may have to a be paid entry as well to ensure that the numbers are managed, but that would then put off people attending, but would ensure the security of everyone involved against those who may attend purely to object to such things. Brighton pride for the past 5/6 years have made a loss due to bad management, and the council there have had to bail it out. This year it has been a huge success manageing to give back thousands to local charities within the city. - It has been going for 20 years and still find it difficult to ensure it goes ahead. justanobody

11:20am Tue 18 Sep 12

justanobody says...

Georgem wrote:
justanobody wrote:
I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong.
There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups.

The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many.
A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events.

Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success.

Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it.
damned if you do damned if you don't.
Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive
What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide.
People are still shunned for their sexuality and they do hide their feelings,
proberbly due to the attitudes around them. Bullying in school instills the fact that young people still believe it wrong.
Young people are still thrown out of ht efamily home for being Gay and their parents can not/will not accept it for social reasons. In later life said parents then come to terms and accept back or disown completely.
I know of some parents that treat their Gay offspring as accessories when it suits and then tell them to dress down at family events.
Still homophobia!
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justanobody[/bold] wrote: I have to say that teh "nobody cares if your gay anymore" is quite wrong. There is still a great deal of homophobia about in this city and can be encountered weekly by narrow minded people who seem to be scared of something they dont know about and it comes from all age groups. The need for some form of display of unity is required, but it has to come from the community and supported by all and celebrated by many. A number of people will say great lets do it, I'll be there, The reality is quite different. as shown in previous events. Everyone is very quick to have an opinion, less quick to get involved in assisting with the organising, and slower at attending an event to make it a success. Getting local businesses to a help fund it may also back fire, as many people slate companies that do this as they then say they are profiteering from it. damned if you do damned if you don't. Good luck to all involved and Come on people of the LGBT community. get off your backsides and support it!!!! be positive[/p][/quote]What I mean about nobody caring if someone's gay is that people don't get shunned for it any more. Of course homophobia still exists, and probably always will to some extent, but being gay is no longer something people need to hide.[/p][/quote]People are still shunned for their sexuality and they do hide their feelings, proberbly due to the attitudes around them. Bullying in school instills the fact that young people still believe it wrong. Young people are still thrown out of ht efamily home for being Gay and their parents can not/will not accept it for social reasons. In later life said parents then come to terms and accept back or disown completely. I know of some parents that treat their Gay offspring as accessories when it suits and then tell them to dress down at family events. Still homophobia! justanobody

4:31pm Tue 18 Sep 12

Graeme Harrison says...

sarfhamton wrote:
I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.
There's no need for council support in that case.
[quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.[/p][/quote]There's no need for council support in that case. Graeme Harrison

4:54pm Tue 18 Sep 12

St. Saint says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
sarfhamton wrote:
I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.
There's no need for council support in that case.
you cant pay for something up front in money you recoup afterwards, unless of course you have a time machine?

I'm straight, I used to live in Brighton. Essentially Pride is just a massive party. A lot of the time you don't even notice what the whole point of it is and just have a great laugh. If the headline was '£15k to have a citywide street party' then everyone would be up for it. Just because there will be a few floats and boas people think it's a waste of money. I'm all for it, it's a good excuse to sit in the sun drinking beer.
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sarfhamton[/bold] wrote: I think as a city we need more events and if Chrisie has enough support I would think £15k would be easily recouped in local car parking, pub takings and fancy dress sales.[/p][/quote]There's no need for council support in that case.[/p][/quote]you cant pay for something up front in money you recoup afterwards, unless of course you have a time machine? I'm straight, I used to live in Brighton. Essentially Pride is just a massive party. A lot of the time you don't even notice what the whole point of it is and just have a great laugh. If the headline was '£15k to have a citywide street party' then everyone would be up for it. Just because there will be a few floats and boas people think it's a waste of money. I'm all for it, it's a good excuse to sit in the sun drinking beer. St. Saint

5:01pm Tue 18 Sep 12

St. Saint says...

Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
Stop playing it then
Where have I played it?
Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.[/p][/quote]Stop playing it then[/p][/quote]Where have I played it?[/p][/quote]Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved. St. Saint

5:14pm Tue 18 Sep 12

Georgem says...

St. Saint wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
Stop playing it then
Where have I played it?
Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved.
What's that got to do with "political correctness"?

Anyway, dreary though Elton John and George Michael (no relation) might be, I don't think their sales reflect any sort of minority appeal. Somehow.
[quote][p][bold]St. Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.[/p][/quote]Stop playing it then[/p][/quote]Where have I played it?[/p][/quote]Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved.[/p][/quote]What's that got to do with "political correctness"? Anyway, dreary though Elton John and George Michael (no relation) might be, I don't think their sales reflect any sort of minority appeal. Somehow. Georgem

5:28pm Tue 18 Sep 12

St. Saint says...

You missed I am someone else, and what I thought was pretty obvious sarcasm.
You missed I am someone else, and what I thought was pretty obvious sarcasm. St. Saint

5:29pm Tue 18 Sep 12

St. Saint says...

Georgem wrote:
St. Saint wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Paraletic wrote:
Georgem wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Georgem wrote:
I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.
And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.
Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.
Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.
What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.
Stop playing it then
Where have I played it?
Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved.
What's that got to do with "political correctness"?

Anyway, dreary though Elton John and George Michael (no relation) might be, I don't think their sales reflect any sort of minority appeal. Somehow.
Meant to quote this then. You missed I am someone else and what I thought was pretty obvious sarcasm.
[quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paraletic[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Georgem[/bold] wrote: I do love this whole flawed idea that public money shouldn't be used on anything that any individual is not personally interested in.[/p][/quote]And Idon't like the flawed idea that my money should be wasted on events that can only benefit a small section of society. Public money should only be used on events that can be used by a cross section of society. If a group of men want an event, they should finance it. If a group of women want an event, they should finance it. If we all want an event then public money could be considered. It's called 'equality'.[/p][/quote]Gay Pride IS for all of us. The people actively taking part are not the only people involved. You can go watch it. Just because you choose not to, does not mean it is not available to you.[/p][/quote]Think I have to agree with informal here, this is not an event that will appeal to anything other than a minority, so should not be paid for from the public purse. Just because it is seen as politically correct to support Gays is no reason for the rest of us to pay for their fun.[/p][/quote]What does political correctness have to do with anything? That card is well overplayed now.[/p][/quote]Stop playing it then[/p][/quote]Where have I played it?[/p][/quote]Only appeals to a minority? A bit like Elton John or George Michael I suppose. Anything with music, dancing, food and beer in the sun is obviously immediately ruined when anyone gay is involved.[/p][/quote]What's that got to do with "political correctness"? Anyway, dreary though Elton John and George Michael (no relation) might be, I don't think their sales reflect any sort of minority appeal. Somehow.[/p][/quote]Meant to quote this then. You missed I am someone else and what I thought was pretty obvious sarcasm. St. Saint

6:11pm Tue 18 Sep 12

seany1966 says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone.
On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.
Excellent
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Just been told ny the echo that my comments have upset people. I didnt say I dont like faggots I just said watching men snogging makes me heave. I am not alone. On another note my next door neighbour is bent as an arabs dagger and a really nice fella.[/p][/quote]Excellent seany1966

9:19pm Tue 18 Sep 12

kuntunky says...

I think it would be a terrific idea if all 3 venues put in an amount each e.g. 2k, iso 3k The london and 10k the edge i mean they charge 6 quid on a saturday night if they were to give up there sat night door entry fees from now till the event im sure enough money would be made. But as i dont believe these venues are for the gay community and for a money making target audience pocket rinse. I bet if this idea was put to them then money making would come above the "gay community" I mean i was last in iso bar a year ago and feel they really do try thier best, the london is full of letching swingers and the edge is full of homophobic meat ball heads. I think all this should be ironed out before we start wanting a "gay pride" in a city as a gay person im not proud of.
I think it would be a terrific idea if all 3 venues put in an amount each e.g. 2k, iso 3k The london and 10k the edge i mean they charge 6 quid on a saturday night if they were to give up there sat night door entry fees from now till the event im sure enough money would be made. But as i dont believe these venues are for the gay community and for a money making target audience pocket rinse. I bet if this idea was put to them then money making would come above the "gay community" I mean i was last in iso bar a year ago and feel they really do try thier best, the london is full of letching swingers and the edge is full of homophobic meat ball heads. I think all this should be ironed out before we start wanting a "gay pride" in a city as a gay person im not proud of. kuntunky

10:16am Wed 19 Sep 12

MithrasRising says...

I'd not be that fussed about having a Pride event in Southampton.

Having been to more than a few, these days, they all tend to blur into each other and become much of a muchness..though I have to say that the choice of pic to show those who attend Pride events is typical in that it's not representative of the gay community as a whole, rather the way the media loves to portray us..

But, I agree with the comment about the predictable responses such as "why can't we have a Str8 Pride?"

If you need to ask the question, and regrettably a number of gay people are of the same opinion, then you just don't get it and probably never will..

But, as was stated, if you really want that, go for it and maybe the media will steretype you in just the same way!

;O)
I'd not be that fussed about having a Pride event in Southampton. Having been to more than a few, these days, they all tend to blur into each other and become much of a muchness..though I have to say that the choice of pic to show those who attend Pride events is typical in that it's not representative of the gay community as a whole, rather the way the media loves to portray us.. But, I agree with the comment about the predictable responses such as "why can't we have a Str8 Pride?" If you need to ask the question, and regrettably a number of gay people are of the same opinion, then you just don't get it and probably never will.. But, as was stated, if you really want that, go for it and maybe the media will steretype you in just the same way! ;O) MithrasRising

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