Religious leaders in Hampshire appeal for calm over anti-Muslim film

Religious leaders appeal for calm over anti-Muslim film

Religious leaders appeal for calm over anti-Muslim film

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

HAMPSHIRE Christian and Muslim leaders have joined forces to condemn a US anti-Muslim film – and the violence it has sparked across the world.

The film Innocence of Muslims denigrating the Prophet Mohammed, has provoked unrest in many parts of the Muslim world over the past ten days.

The condemnation from Hampshire’s community leaders comes as the film’s director, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, was back behind bars for parole violation.

A judge in California ordered him to be detained after he broke the terms of his probation since his release from prison last year.

Nakoula had been convicted of fraud in 2010 and now faces a two-year jail sentence.

At least 33 people have died, including the US ambassador to Libya, in a wave of attacks across the Middle East.

Fresh protests then erupted over a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed published in a French magazine last week.

Now the county leaders of four Christian denominations along with the Muslim leaders from mosques and Islamic centres in Fareham and Portsmouth have urged peace.

In a joint statement, they said: “One of the fundamental values of Islam is peace and the Islamic faith is a peaceful religion.

“Those who want to attack this faith have provoked a small minority of Muslims into doing precisely what has occurred.

“Muslims should recognise that this is an attack on their faith, but treat it with the contempt it deserves. This is a short film made in the USA by a small group of people who don’t understand Islam, and is not representative of America as a whole.

“We need to remind people to react with calm, peace and tolerance. The violence that has led to the destruction of property and the taking of innocent lives completely contradicts the teaching of any religion, including Islam.

“We strongly condemn such violence that does nothing to honour the Prophet whose honour the demonstrators want to defend.

“Freedom of expression is not absolute. As people of faith, we re-iterate that freedom of expression doesn’t justify spreading hatred based on faith, race, ethnicity or gender.”

The signatories to the joint statement include the Rev Dr Andrew Wood, chairman of the Southampton District of the Methodist Church, the Rev Clare Downing, moderator of the Wessex synod of the United Reformed Church, Sheikh Fazle Abbas Datoo and Imam of the Al Mahdi Wessex Jamaat Community in Wickham , Sheikh Aminur Rahman.

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8:49am Sun 30 Sep 12

St Retford says...

If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go:
If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go: St Retford
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9:15am Sun 30 Sep 12

Sovietobserver says...

This video was a low budget , poorly made Youtube video that no one would have ever seen had the Muslim world not reacted so hysterically. The fact is that in the United States, people are free to mock whatever and whichever religion they please. Anyone watching Monty Python's " The Life of Brian ", or Ricky Gervais's " The Book of Noah " knows that it is extremely commonplace and normal, and yet we don't see any reaction as this one has from any other religion.
I don't see how this video can logically lead to the torching of KFC's in Lebanon. There is a real logical fallacy when it comes to this issue. How does a measly video warrant a greater 'reaction' than murders by the Syrian government ? The big deal that was generated by this video is nothing more than Middle Eastern leaders using anything and everything they can to inflame the Muslim World and prevent them from getting political justice. Islam's reputation just gets worse and worse, and it's entirely due to the self indulgent hysterical behaviour of Muslims, not Islamophobia.
What chance has the human race got when people see a film as more offensive than murder ? If anything, to see the Islamic world in this condition of underdevelopment is a bigger insult to the Prophet.
This video was a low budget , poorly made Youtube video that no one would have ever seen had the Muslim world not reacted so hysterically. The fact is that in the United States, people are free to mock whatever and whichever religion they please. Anyone watching Monty Python's " The Life of Brian ", or Ricky Gervais's " The Book of Noah " knows that it is extremely commonplace and normal, and yet we don't see any reaction as this one has from any other religion. I don't see how this video can logically lead to the torching of KFC's in Lebanon. There is a real logical fallacy when it comes to this issue. How does a measly video warrant a greater 'reaction' than murders by the Syrian government ? The big deal that was generated by this video is nothing more than Middle Eastern leaders using anything and everything they can to inflame the Muslim World and prevent them from getting political justice. Islam's reputation just gets worse and worse, and it's entirely due to the self indulgent hysterical behaviour of Muslims, not Islamophobia. What chance has the human race got when people see a film as more offensive than murder ? If anything, to see the Islamic world in this condition of underdevelopment is a bigger insult to the Prophet. Sovietobserver
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9:15am Sun 30 Sep 12

MGRA says...

great idea..... Islam is not a "peaceful" religion , nor is it always violent. Of all the worlds terrorist incidents, Islam is responsible for the majority with various independence movements making up the rest. This film is not a "U.S." film, it was made by an Egyptian. The violence in the streets "against" this "film" was orchestration my the masters of violence and bigotry. There , glad thats sorted.
great idea..... Islam is not a "peaceful" religion , nor is it always violent. Of all the worlds terrorist incidents, Islam is responsible for the majority with various independence movements making up the rest. This film is not a "U.S." film, it was made by an Egyptian. The violence in the streets "against" this "film" was orchestration my the masters of violence and bigotry. There , glad thats sorted. MGRA
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9:31am Sun 30 Sep 12

hmw says...

St Retford wrote:
If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go:
It's nothing complex, they're all just bloody mental
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go:[/p][/quote]It's nothing complex, they're all just bloody mental hmw
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9:40am Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

During my time in the Royal Navy, it was the duty of crews to visit, and hold a ceremony at Commonwealth War Graves if there were any in the area, when we made a courtesy visit.

In a number of CWGs, especially in Italy and North Africa, they contain the bodies of Hindus, Muslims, Jews as well as Christians. Male and female. Black and White, from various countries.

How sad that these people, with various religions and backgrounds, could give up their lives, fighting alongside each other as united force, to preseve our freedom of speech.
During my time in the Royal Navy, it was the duty of crews to visit, and hold a ceremony at Commonwealth War Graves if there were any in the area, when we made a courtesy visit. In a number of CWGs, especially in Italy and North Africa, they contain the bodies of Hindus, Muslims, Jews as well as Christians. Male and female. Black and White, from various countries. How sad that these people, with various religions and backgrounds, could give up their lives, fighting alongside each other as united force, to preseve our freedom of speech. Linesman
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10:30am Sun 30 Sep 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

Let's hope there's no yoga in it or the christians will be out thererioting as well.
Let's hope there's no yoga in it or the christians will be out thererioting as well. MisterGrimsdale
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11:59am Sun 30 Sep 12

Georgem says...

MGRA wrote:
great idea..... Islam is not a "peaceful" religion , nor is it always violent. Of all the worlds terrorist incidents, Islam is responsible for the majority with various independence movements making up the rest. This film is not a "U.S." film, it was made by an Egyptian. The violence in the streets "against" this "film" was orchestration my the masters of violence and bigotry. There , glad thats sorted.
Looking forward to next week's headline

"Religious leaders from anonymous English town bring about world peace"
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: great idea..... Islam is not a "peaceful" religion , nor is it always violent. Of all the worlds terrorist incidents, Islam is responsible for the majority with various independence movements making up the rest. This film is not a "U.S." film, it was made by an Egyptian. The violence in the streets "against" this "film" was orchestration my the masters of violence and bigotry. There , glad thats sorted.[/p][/quote]Looking forward to next week's headline "Religious leaders from anonymous English town bring about world peace" Georgem
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12:39pm Sun 30 Sep 12

cantthinkofone says...

St Retford wrote:
If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go:
Love it. :-D

I watched a bit of the film the other day. It's incredible how such a shoddy, amateurish piece of trash has made global headlines. It's laughably bad. It's as though it's some kind of Chris Morris parody of itself. I've seen better stuff produced by GCSE students.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: If there's one way to make sense of this complex situation it's for a bunch of casual racists to debate it on the Internet and use it as a platform for their ill-informed grievances. Let's go:[/p][/quote]Love it. :-D I watched a bit of the film the other day. It's incredible how such a shoddy, amateurish piece of trash has made global headlines. It's laughably bad. It's as though it's some kind of Chris Morris parody of itself. I've seen better stuff produced by GCSE students. cantthinkofone
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3:46pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

For those who claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, perhaps they could inform us which religion they consider fits that description.

If they say Christianity, I would suggest that they check out what the Crusades were all about.
For those who claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, perhaps they could inform us which religion they consider fits that description. If they say Christianity, I would suggest that they check out what the Crusades were all about. Linesman
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7:56pm Sun 30 Sep 12

MGRA says...

Linesman wrote:
For those who claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, perhaps they could inform us which religion they consider fits that description.

If they say Christianity, I would suggest that they check out what the Crusades were all about.
you are living in the past obviously. The crusades were part of human history which by todays standards was uncivilised. Recent atrocities in "civilised" or semi-civilised times attributed to religion I suppose make one think of the Cathars and their genocide at the hands of the catholics and various organised deaths on an idustrial scale in the name of "jihad"... But harking back almost 1000 years is ridiculous...imo... no sorry Catholics are responsible for millions of death through AIDS and islam is responsible for millions of deaths through "jihad"...
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: For those who claim that Islam is not a religion of peace, perhaps they could inform us which religion they consider fits that description. If they say Christianity, I would suggest that they check out what the Crusades were all about.[/p][/quote]you are living in the past obviously. The crusades were part of human history which by todays standards was uncivilised. Recent atrocities in "civilised" or semi-civilised times attributed to religion I suppose make one think of the Cathars and their genocide at the hands of the catholics and various organised deaths on an idustrial scale in the name of "jihad"... But harking back almost 1000 years is ridiculous...imo... no sorry Catholics are responsible for millions of death through AIDS and islam is responsible for millions of deaths through "jihad"... MGRA
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8:26pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Rob444 says...

Why are these people so sensitive? I don't remember any major fuss when "The Life of Brian" came out.
Why are these people so sensitive? I don't remember any major fuss when "The Life of Brian" came out. Rob444
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9:15pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Mr. Ducke says...

Isn't that just lovely. Well, your children will inherit the Britain (a historical construct, no longer a nation) you've built for them. Some of us here in the US won't lie down so easily.
Isn't that just lovely. Well, your children will inherit the Britain (a historical construct, no longer a nation) you've built for them. Some of us here in the US won't lie down so easily. Mr. Ducke
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8:46am Mon 1 Oct 12

Taskforce 141 says...

All this fuss over a mystical magic man than no one has ever seen...

Religion:- The perfect excuse to argue and start wars over who has the best imaginary friend.

Just ask yourself, how would the world be without religion? **** peaceful is my guess!
All this fuss over a mystical magic man than no one has ever seen... Religion:- The perfect excuse to argue and start wars over who has the best imaginary friend. Just ask yourself, how would the world be without religion? **** peaceful is my guess! Taskforce 141
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6:30pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Scrutinizer says...

If the majority of peaceful-minded Muslims want the people who follow other religions, and those who follow none, like myself, to avoid any suspicion that they simply don't care enough to actively oppose the actions of the violent extremists who also profess to follow the same religion, then they must get their act together and speak out much more than they have been. Purely on a practical level, it must make sense for them to do so.
If the majority of peaceful-minded Muslims want the people who follow other religions, and those who follow none, like myself, to avoid any suspicion that they simply don't care enough to actively oppose the actions of the violent extremists who also profess to follow the same religion, then they must get their act together and speak out much more than they have been. Purely on a practical level, it must make sense for them to do so. Scrutinizer
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7:17pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Scrutinizer says...

Mr. Ducke wrote:
Isn't that just lovely. Well, your children will inherit the Britain (a historical construct, no longer a nation) you've built for them. Some of us here in the US won't lie down so easily.
Well, the U.S, along with our own country here in Britain, and others too, is responsible for enflaming the general situation regarding the Islamic world and how they perceive Western motives. They've done this on account of attempting to impose a Western-style form of democratic governing-system in certain places on this planet, such as Iraq and Afghanistan. It is quite simply not genuinely desired in those countries. Both in particular, were never likely to allow it to work - certainly not for many decades - if ever. Their cultures, traditions etc, are essentially dominated by very different sociol-familial and political alliegances and power structures, which have been influenced for many centuries by their Islamic religion - or rather their interpretations of it.
[quote][p][bold]Mr. Ducke[/bold] wrote: Isn't that just lovely. Well, your children will inherit the Britain (a historical construct, no longer a nation) you've built for them. Some of us here in the US won't lie down so easily.[/p][/quote]Well, the U.S, along with our own country here in Britain, and others too, is responsible for enflaming the general situation regarding the Islamic world and how they perceive Western motives. They've done this on account of attempting to impose a Western-style form of democratic governing-system in certain places on this planet, such as Iraq and Afghanistan. It is quite simply not genuinely desired in those countries. Both in particular, were never likely to allow it to work - certainly not for many decades - if ever. Their cultures, traditions etc, are essentially dominated by very different sociol-familial and political alliegances and power structures, which have been influenced for many centuries by their Islamic religion - or rather their interpretations of it. Scrutinizer
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