Ed Miliband backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino (From Daily Echo)
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Ed Miliband backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino
10:00am Sunday 30th September 2012 in News
By Tom Moseley, Parliamentary Correspondent
Ed Miliband
LEADER of the opposition, Ed Miliband has backed Southampton City Council’s decision to look again at a massive casino for the city.
The Labour Party boss said he was “cautious” about any Government expansion of gambling dens. But as council bosses consider holding a referendum of residents, he insisted local people would need to have the final say.
He said: “I can’t be the person that says Britain is too centralised a country, and that local people need to decide and then say I am going to make the decision for Southampton on what they do, they’ve got to make the decision.”
Southampton secured one of eight licences for large casinos in 2007 – but after the then Labour government went cold on the idea and the recession struck, there were no more developments.
But now Labour is making moves to explore the scheme, and this week the Daily Echo revealed more than a dozen companies had expressed their interest.
Mr Miliband added: “We’ve got to be pretty cautious nationally as a Government in relation to what we do with casinos, but people have to make the local judgement about what is right for their town or their city and what local people want, and I totally trust Southampton, as a local council, to make that decision.”
Mr Miliband was speaking to the Daily Echo ahead of his party conference in Manchester. He also revealed a new youth unemployment taskforce would be set up in Labour council areas and constituencies such as Southampton.
Asked how he could repair the damage after the Labour vote was decimated in parts of southern England, he insisted: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.”
Comments(35)
southy
says...
10:25am Sun 30 Sep 12
Its about be decimated again in the next 2 local elections. Labour are now self proclaim Capitalist and offer the same policy as the Torys and all other Right wing Partys.
skin2000
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10:36am Sun 30 Sep 12
G-man1
says...
11:48am Sun 30 Sep 12
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
Georgem
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11:54am Sun 30 Sep 12
G-man1 wrote:It's rather sad, really, isn't it? The Mayflower connection alone could be a huge draw to American tourists, for example, if the city bothered to do anything about it. But no, let's build endless identikit blocks of flats and chain pubs everywhere instead. Much better.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
georgetheseventh
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2:21pm Sun 30 Sep 12
G0Rf
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2:40pm Sun 30 Sep 12
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
Shoong
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2:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12
skin2000
says...
2:57pm Sun 30 Sep 12
G0Rf wrote:Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den.
How about a music arena?
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
Linesman
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3:29pm Sun 30 Sep 12
8089 wrote:I wonder what your bellyache would be if he had said that, if Labour came to power, he would legislate that Southampton had a casino?
So Miliband:
"backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino"
....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him!
My betting is that you would be throwing your toys out of your pram, saying that the decision should be taken locally.
Personally, I think it far better that the citizens of Southampton take this decision, rather than it is forced upon them by Westminster. That's an example of the difference between dictatorship and democracy.
Lone Ranger.
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3:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12
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Perhaps the thought should be ...... Will he be a better PM than Slippery Dave.
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A RESOUNDING YES ...... But there again i think that out pet dog would be a better PM than Cameron ..... He does chase around in circles a lot ..... Cameron that is not our dog
Linesman
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3:33pm Sun 30 Sep 12
skin2000 wrote:Royston Smith gambled a lot of the city's money on the museum, without seeking the views of the city's council tax payers.
This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.
If there is a casino, it is individuals that will gamble their own money, not the council's.
I would assume that the cost of the referendum would be paid for by the people who wish to build and operate the casino, so would not be paid for by Joe Public.
IronLady2010
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3:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Linesman
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3:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12
georgetheseventh wrote:No doubt the opinion of one who supports David 'U-Turn' Cameron.
The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.
Linesman
says...
3:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
IronLady2010
says...
3:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
ajw1986
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4:30pm Sun 30 Sep 12
georgetheseventh wrote:He is indeed, surely he should be worrying about a coup in his own immediate space rather than poking his goggly eyes and head into something that will just pander to the absolutely thousands of gamblers we have here?
The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.
Beer Monster
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4:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12
skin2000 wrote:Totally agreed - we need a decent indoor music arena. The only places that we can accommodate larger acts are outdoors, such as St. Mary's or the Rose Bowl (sorry, but it's not going to be anything else than its proper name).
G0Rf wrote:Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den.
How about a music arena?
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
You never know, we could have an ice rink instead ;-)
Bitterne Jill
says...
4:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia
says...
5:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,
When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,
When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,
When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,
When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,
When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,
And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.
Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.
Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.
They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.
How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.
If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
Paramjit Bahia
says...
5:22pm Sun 30 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:That is basicaly correct.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
They are planning to spend millions to redevelop old T&G site, as arts and cultural place, which in reality will be more of the drinking dens with which old High Street an London Road are virtually full and creating all kinds of problems under the name of what Council calls night time economy.
Old T&G building could have been converted into a larger Art Gallery, but having missed that opportunity even now it is not too late if rather than another paradise for hooligans with few fancy expensive flats they build an Art Gallery on that site whicht could be big enough to exhibit most of the collection locked up in dungeons.
With one of the best and largest collection of Arts outside London, with suitable gallery Southampton could attract the type of tourist trade that our neighbours like Bournemouth and Portsmouth can’t cater for. But unfortunately our Council has decided book Presidential Suite in fools paradise, so is trying to compete in market where others have a massive advantage.
Paramjit Bahia
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5:23pm Sun 30 Sep 12
skin2000 wrote:spot on, BUT try telling that to Dear Leader
This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.
Linesman
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5:24pm Sun 30 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
IronLady2010
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6:25pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Linesman wrote:The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
IronLady2010 wrote:I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
IronLady2010
says...
6:27pm Sun 30 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:If we were to have more attractions like the new Museum then people would come here for a day or three as there would be lots to do.
Linesman wrote:The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
IronLady2010 wrote:I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
As it stands Labour have scrapped all the Tourist attraction plans? Now they focusing on a bloomin Casino!
windyboy
says...
6:33pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Lone Ranger.
says...
7:04pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon.
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.
Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,
When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,
When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,
When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,
When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,
When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,
And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.
Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.
Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.
They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.
How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.
If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
.
Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks
.
You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though.
Lone Ranger.
says...
7:07pm Sun 30 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton
Linesman wrote:The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
IronLady2010 wrote:I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
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And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it
IronLady2010
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7:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:OK, so let's assume it's not yet paid for as you say, we can leave it to rot or invest in more attractions to bring more people in to the City.
IronLady2010 wrote:The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton
Linesman wrote:The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
IronLady2010 wrote:I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
.
And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it
The point is the Museum is there, we can't demolish it, so it's best to bring more attractions to encourage more visitors. I don't feel a Casino would encourage more visitors to a Museum? I could be wrong...............
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lisa whitemore
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8:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12
G-man1 wrote:here,here. Well said.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
lisa whitemore
says...
8:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12
IronLady2010 wrote:'Southampton Art Gallery??'
Linesman wrote:We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
G-man1 wrote:It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.
There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.
Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
lisa whitemore
says...
8:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Paramjit Bahia wrote:very good points!
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.
Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,
When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,
When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,
When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,
When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,
When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,
And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.
Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.
Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.
They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.
How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.
If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
St Retford
says...
9:52pm Sun 30 Sep 12
southy
says...
11:54am Mon 1 Oct 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:The Labour Party are the Torys secrect weapon, We been Amerincanised in the Economy and Political System.
Paramjit Bahia wrote:Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon.
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.
Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,
When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,
When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,
When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,
When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,
When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,
And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.
Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.
Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.
They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.
How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.
If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
.
Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks
.
You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though.
Many partys with the same Economic and Political Policy and the losers are the public they do not have any real choice in the main partys where they repesent Capitalism with zero Social economic and political policy. turning us back to the 1920's
kingnotail
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12:03pm Mon 1 Oct 12
8089 says...
10:24am Sun 30 Sep 12
"backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino"
....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him!