Ed Miliband backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino

Ed Miliband

Ed Miliband

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Parliamentary Correspondent

LEADER of the opposition, Ed Miliband has backed Southampton City Council’s decision to look again at a massive casino for the city.

The Labour Party boss said he was “cautious” about any Government expansion of gambling dens. But as council bosses consider holding a referendum of residents, he insisted local people would need to have the final say.

He said: “I can’t be the person that says Britain is too centralised a country, and that local people need to decide and then say I am going to make the decision for Southampton on what they do, they’ve got to make the decision.”

Southampton secured one of eight licences for large casinos in 2007 – but after the then Labour government went cold on the idea and the recession struck, there were no more developments.

But now Labour is making moves to explore the scheme, and this week the Daily Echo revealed more than a dozen companies had expressed their interest.

Mr Miliband added: “We’ve got to be pretty cautious nationally as a Government in relation to what we do with casinos, but people have to make the local judgement about what is right for their town or their city and what local people want, and I totally trust Southampton, as a local council, to make that decision.”

Mr Miliband was speaking to the Daily Echo ahead of his party conference in Manchester. He also revealed a new youth unemployment taskforce would be set up in Labour council areas and constituencies such as Southampton.

Asked how he could repair the damage after the Labour vote was decimated in parts of southern England, he insisted: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.”

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10:24am Sun 30 Sep 12

8089 says...

So Miliband:

"backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino"

....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him!
So Miliband: "backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino" ....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him! 8089
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10:25am Sun 30 Sep 12

southy says...

"Asked how he could repair the damage after the Labour vote was decimated in parts of southern England, he insisted: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.”

Its about be decimated again in the next 2 local elections. Labour are now self proclaim Capitalist and offer the same policy as the Torys and all other Right wing Partys.
"Asked how he could repair the damage after the Labour vote was decimated in parts of southern England, he insisted: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Its about be decimated again in the next 2 local elections. Labour are now self proclaim Capitalist and offer the same policy as the Torys and all other Right wing Partys. southy
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10:36am Sun 30 Sep 12

skin2000 says...

This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.
This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den. skin2000
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11:48am Sun 30 Sep 12

G-man1 says...

I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor" G-man1
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11:54am Sun 30 Sep 12

Georgem says...

G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It's rather sad, really, isn't it? The Mayflower connection alone could be a huge draw to American tourists, for example, if the city bothered to do anything about it. But no, let's build endless identikit blocks of flats and chain pubs everywhere instead. Much better.
[quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It's rather sad, really, isn't it? The Mayflower connection alone could be a huge draw to American tourists, for example, if the city bothered to do anything about it. But no, let's build endless identikit blocks of flats and chain pubs everywhere instead. Much better. Georgem
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2:21pm Sun 30 Sep 12

georgetheseventh says...

The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.
The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools. georgetheseventh
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2:40pm Sun 30 Sep 12

G0Rf says...

How about a music arena?
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
How about a music arena? How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre? How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park? G0Rf
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2:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Shoong says...

The man is a gift and the best chance the Conservatives have of winning the next election.
The man is a gift and the best chance the Conservatives have of winning the next election. Shoong
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2:57pm Sun 30 Sep 12

skin2000 says...

G0Rf wrote:
How about a music arena?
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den.
[quote][p][bold]G0Rf[/bold] wrote: How about a music arena? How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre? How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?[/p][/quote]Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den. skin2000
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3:29pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

8089 wrote:
So Miliband:

"backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino"

....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him!
I wonder what your bellyache would be if he had said that, if Labour came to power, he would legislate that Southampton had a casino?

My betting is that you would be throwing your toys out of your pram, saying that the decision should be taken locally.

Personally, I think it far better that the citizens of Southampton take this decision, rather than it is forced upon them by Westminster. That's an example of the difference between dictatorship and democracy.
[quote][p][bold]8089[/bold] wrote: So Miliband: "backs Southampton to make right decision on super casino" ....In other words, he is being as limp as usual. Either Southampton WILL have another casino or it WON'T have another casino, but whichever the case, you can rest assured that Miliband is with you all the way! How very weak, non comittal and Lib Dem of him![/p][/quote]I wonder what your bellyache would be if he had said that, if Labour came to power, he would legislate that Southampton had a casino? My betting is that you would be throwing your toys out of your pram, saying that the decision should be taken locally. Personally, I think it far better that the citizens of Southampton take this decision, rather than it is forced upon them by Westminster. That's an example of the difference between dictatorship and democracy. Linesman
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3:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Predicable comments from the Tory "faithful" ...... after all two a bit years is a long way off.
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Perhaps the thought should be ...... Will he be a better PM than Slippery Dave.
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A RESOUNDING YES ...... But there again i think that out pet dog would be a better PM than Cameron ..... He does chase around in circles a lot ..... Cameron that is not our dog
Predicable comments from the Tory "faithful" ...... after all two a bit years is a long way off. . Perhaps the thought should be ...... Will he be a better PM than Slippery Dave. . A RESOUNDING YES ...... But there again i think that out pet dog would be a better PM than Cameron ..... He does chase around in circles a lot ..... Cameron that is not our dog Lone Ranger.
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3:33pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

skin2000 wrote:
This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.
Royston Smith gambled a lot of the city's money on the museum, without seeking the views of the city's council tax payers.

If there is a casino, it is individuals that will gamble their own money, not the council's.

I would assume that the cost of the referendum would be paid for by the people who wish to build and operate the casino, so would not be paid for by Joe Public.
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.[/p][/quote]Royston Smith gambled a lot of the city's money on the museum, without seeking the views of the city's council tax payers. If there is a casino, it is individuals that will gamble their own money, not the council's. I would assume that the cost of the referendum would be paid for by the people who wish to build and operate the casino, so would not be paid for by Joe Public. Linesman
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3:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

I'm not sure Southampton is ready for a super Casino just yet. We are in need of more family friendly Leisure activities. We have all that waterfront and hardly anything going on there!
I'm not sure Southampton is ready for a super Casino just yet. We are in need of more family friendly Leisure activities. We have all that waterfront and hardly anything going on there! IronLady2010
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3:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

georgetheseventh wrote:
The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.
No doubt the opinion of one who supports David 'U-Turn' Cameron.
[quote][p][bold]georgetheseventh[/bold] wrote: The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.[/p][/quote]No doubt the opinion of one who supports David 'U-Turn' Cameron. Linesman
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3:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
[quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere. Linesman
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3:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it. IronLady2010
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4:30pm Sun 30 Sep 12

ajw1986 says...

georgetheseventh wrote:
The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.
He is indeed, surely he should be worrying about a coup in his own immediate space rather than poking his goggly eyes and head into something that will just pander to the absolutely thousands of gamblers we have here?
[quote][p][bold]georgetheseventh[/bold] wrote: The 'man' is not only a fool..he is leader of fools.[/p][/quote]He is indeed, surely he should be worrying about a coup in his own immediate space rather than poking his goggly eyes and head into something that will just pander to the absolutely thousands of gamblers we have here? ajw1986
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4:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Beer Monster says...

skin2000 wrote:
G0Rf wrote:
How about a music arena?
How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre?
How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?
Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den.
Totally agreed - we need a decent indoor music arena. The only places that we can accommodate larger acts are outdoors, such as St. Mary's or the Rose Bowl (sorry, but it's not going to be anything else than its proper name).

You never know, we could have an ice rink instead ;-)
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G0Rf[/bold] wrote: How about a music arena? How about making the waterfront more accessible from city centre? How about a leisure world to rival tower park or Basingstoke lleisure park?[/p][/quote]Definitely better ideas than a big gambling den.[/p][/quote]Totally agreed - we need a decent indoor music arena. The only places that we can accommodate larger acts are outdoors, such as St. Mary's or the Rose Bowl (sorry, but it's not going to be anything else than its proper name). You never know, we could have an ice rink instead ;-) Beer Monster
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4:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Bitterne Jill says...

Why do we need so many casinos? I'm sure they're fun, they're not my cup of tea, but we've got several already haven't we? What about something a bit more cultured for a change?
Why do we need so many casinos? I'm sure they're fun, they're not my cup of tea, but we've got several already haven't we? What about something a bit more cultured for a change? Bitterne Jill
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5:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.

Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,

When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,

When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,

When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,

When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,

When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,

And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.

Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.

Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.

They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.

How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.

If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband. Differences like his NuLabour made to: Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power, When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing, When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met, When big chunks of our NHS were privatised, When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU, When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives, And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain. Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal. Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death. They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour. How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level. If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world. Paramjit Bahia
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5:22pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
That is basicaly correct.

They are planning to spend millions to redevelop old T&G site, as arts and cultural place, which in reality will be more of the drinking dens with which old High Street an London Road are virtually full and creating all kinds of problems under the name of what Council calls night time economy.

Old T&G building could have been converted into a larger Art Gallery, but having missed that opportunity even now it is not too late if rather than another paradise for hooligans with few fancy expensive flats they build an Art Gallery on that site whicht could be big enough to exhibit most of the collection locked up in dungeons.

With one of the best and largest collection of Arts outside London, with suitable gallery Southampton could attract the type of tourist trade that our neighbours like Bournemouth and Portsmouth can’t cater for. But unfortunately our Council has decided book Presidential Suite in fools paradise, so is trying to compete in market where others have a massive advantage.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]That is basicaly correct. They are planning to spend millions to redevelop old T&G site, as arts and cultural place, which in reality will be more of the drinking dens with which old High Street an London Road are virtually full and creating all kinds of problems under the name of what Council calls night time economy. Old T&G building could have been converted into a larger Art Gallery, but having missed that opportunity even now it is not too late if rather than another paradise for hooligans with few fancy expensive flats they build an Art Gallery on that site whicht could be big enough to exhibit most of the collection locked up in dungeons. With one of the best and largest collection of Arts outside London, with suitable gallery Southampton could attract the type of tourist trade that our neighbours like Bournemouth and Portsmouth can’t cater for. But unfortunately our Council has decided book Presidential Suite in fools paradise, so is trying to compete in market where others have a massive advantage. Paramjit Bahia
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5:23pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

skin2000 wrote:
This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.
spot on, BUT try telling that to Dear Leader
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: This referendum will costs thousands of pounds to administer, surely money can be spent on something, that will make Southampton a better place, not a giant gambling den.[/p][/quote]spot on, BUT try telling that to Dear Leader Paramjit Bahia
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5:24pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Linesman says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet. Linesman
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6:25pm Sun 30 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

Linesman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.[/p][/quote]The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it? IronLady2010
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6:27pm Sun 30 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
If we were to have more attractions like the new Museum then people would come here for a day or three as there would be lots to do.

As it stands Labour have scrapped all the Tourist attraction plans? Now they focusing on a bloomin Casino!
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.[/p][/quote]The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?[/p][/quote]If we were to have more attractions like the new Museum then people would come here for a day or three as there would be lots to do. As it stands Labour have scrapped all the Tourist attraction plans? Now they focusing on a bloomin Casino! IronLady2010
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6:33pm Sun 30 Sep 12

windyboy says...

He not only talks like a muppet, he looks like one.
He not only talks like a muppet, he looks like one. windyboy
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7:04pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.

Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,

When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,

When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,

When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,

When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,

When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,

And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.

Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.

Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.

They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.

How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.

If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon.
.
Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks
.
You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband. Differences like his NuLabour made to: Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power, When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing, When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met, When big chunks of our NHS were privatised, When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU, When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives, And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain. Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal. Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death. They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour. How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level. If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.[/p][/quote]Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon. . Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks . You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though. Lone Ranger.
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7:07pm Sun 30 Sep 12

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton
.
And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.[/p][/quote]The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?[/p][/quote]The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton . And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it Lone Ranger.
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7:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.
The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?
The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton
.
And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it
OK, so let's assume it's not yet paid for as you say, we can leave it to rot or invest in more attractions to bring more people in to the City.

The point is the Museum is there, we can't demolish it, so it's best to bring more attractions to encourage more visitors. I don't feel a Casino would encourage more visitors to a Museum? I could be wrong...............
....
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]I have no doubt that Royston would explain why this did not happen during his administration and why he thought that a museum was a better bet.[/p][/quote]The museum is a tourist attraction, we need more like it to attract more tourists and increase income. A Casino is not the answer as it has a limited age range. If we had more attractions then more people would come to the City, visit the museum and spend money, which is what we want isn't it?[/p][/quote]The difference is the Sea Museum has not been paid for ...... Its a financial millstone around the necks of the people of Southampton . And the Casino is not funded in ant way by the City. But the City will receive £1m per year from it[/p][/quote]OK, so let's assume it's not yet paid for as you say, we can leave it to rot or invest in more attractions to bring more people in to the City. The point is the Museum is there, we can't demolish it, so it's best to bring more attractions to encourage more visitors. I don't feel a Casino would encourage more visitors to a Museum? I could be wrong............... .... IronLady2010
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8:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12

lisa whitemore says...

G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
here,here. Well said.
[quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]here,here. Well said. lisa whitemore
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8:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12

lisa whitemore says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Linesman wrote:
G-man1 wrote:
I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair.

There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London.

Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"
It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public.

It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.
We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.
'Southampton Art Gallery??'
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]G-man1[/bold] wrote: I wouldn`t trust the council to place a correct order in a fish and chip shop let alone make a decison about a super casino-.Labour, Lib Dem or Tory to be fair. There was a story in the Echo the other day about thought being given yet again to the council selling off art from what is recognised as being one of the finest art galleries in the country outside of London. Just about sums up our ambitions a city doesn`t it? If you ever read any of those Rough Guide/Lonely Planet books Southampton barely gets a mention. The prospect of a Super Casino referendum doesn`t really get the juices flowing in anticipation of a "Wow Factor"[/p][/quote]It does not surprise me that the council is considering selling off some of its art collection. Most of it is in store and is not available to be seen by the general public. It also has to be remembered that 'Royston's Folly', the new museum has to be paid for and maintained. Now that the initial blaze of publicity has died down, so have the number of people attending, so the money has to come from somewhere.[/p][/quote]We should be asking why it's in storage, why not put it all on display, charge an entrance fee, place a Cafe and restaurant and make some money from it.[/p][/quote]'Southampton Art Gallery??' lisa whitemore
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8:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12

lisa whitemore says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.

Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,

When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,

When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,

When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,

When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,

When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,

And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.

Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.

Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.

They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.

How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.

If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
very good points!
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband. Differences like his NuLabour made to: Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power, When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing, When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met, When big chunks of our NHS were privatised, When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU, When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives, And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain. Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal. Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death. They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour. How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level. If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.[/p][/quote]very good points! lisa whitemore
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9:52pm Sun 30 Sep 12

St Retford says...

Eddy's currently doing a DJ set in a bar in Manchester with Eddie Izzard. The guy's got swag. Don't hate.
Eddy's currently doing a DJ set in a bar in Manchester with Eddie Izzard. The guy's got swag. Don't hate. St Retford
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11:54am Mon 1 Oct 12

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
“The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband.

Differences like his NuLabour made to:
Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power,

When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing,

When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met,

When big chunks of our NHS were privatised,

When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU,

When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives,

And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain.

Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal.

Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death.

They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour.

How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level.

If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.
Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon.
.
Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks
.
You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though.
The Labour Party are the Torys secrect weapon, We been Amerincanised in the Economy and Political System.
Many partys with the same Economic and Political Policy and the losers are the public they do not have any real choice in the main partys where they repesent Capitalism with zero Social economic and political policy. turning us back to the 1920's
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: “The most important thing we can do is show people we can make a difference to their lives.” Says Ed Milliband. Differences like his NuLabour made to: Whole the country during 13 years when they were in power, When gap between haves and have nots kept on increasing, When their own targets of tackling child poverty were not met, When big chunks of our NHS were privatised, When most of our sovereignty was sacrificed at the alter of the corrupt EU, When they took us to illegal and immoral war in Iraq and for folly of going into Afghanistan where our brave men and women are paying for that with their lives, And when the government of which both Ed and his brother David were prominent members turned at one time Great Britain into virtually Bankrupt Britain. Those who have observed news of last few days would have noticed Balls saying he will be tough on spending, in other words even more cuts than ConDem Coalition. And Ed Milliband distancing himself millions miles away from ‘Socialism’ which used to be the soul of old Labour. Now current leadership has adopted ‘Progressive Capitalism’ as their goal. Considering Millband himself has said that they will be the ‘first government in history to promise little but deliver more’ can only be taken as a marker for shape of things to come…. Progressive Capitalism will be extended to most oppressive form of capitalism, which could even scare the hell out of likes of McMillan to death. They won’t only be supporting Super Casino in Southampton but will make the whole country’s future dependent upon the throw of dice in hands of self serving ego manic turn coats traitors of good old Labour. How they are trying to destroy Southampton even more than Smith led Tories by closing community facilities like Oaklands, and how they have put boot into their own councillors who dare to stand for people who elected them, will happen at even larger scale if Millibnad led mob of Closet Conservatives is allowed to get in power at national level. If that happens there will be greater chance for us the ordinary people to win jack pot at super casino than receiving proper health care under these two faced evil monsters of political world.[/p][/quote]Paramjit Bahia ....... The Tories secret weapon. . Lets return to Old Labour ....... Totally unelectable ....... Lets return to the Michael Foot era. err No Thanks . You can stay in past PB ..... but most of the rest of the world has moved on Not always for the better though.[/p][/quote]The Labour Party are the Torys secrect weapon, We been Amerincanised in the Economy and Political System. Many partys with the same Economic and Political Policy and the losers are the public they do not have any real choice in the main partys where they repesent Capitalism with zero Social economic and political policy. turning us back to the 1920's southy
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12:03pm Mon 1 Oct 12

kingnotail says...

Haven't these 'Super-Casino' projects always been abandoned in the end? One project isn't going to solve the problem anyway; Southampton needs a coordinated strategy to improve nightlifea and leisure facilites. Otherwise it will continue to remain one of the most boring places in the UK.
Haven't these 'Super-Casino' projects always been abandoned in the end? One project isn't going to solve the problem anyway; Southampton needs a coordinated strategy to improve nightlifea and leisure facilites. Otherwise it will continue to remain one of the most boring places in the UK. kingnotail
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