Sex club boss seeking planning permission

Daily Echo: Martin Millar Martin Millar

THE man behind a new kinky hotel in Southampton has pleaded for help from council chiefs in his bid to secure planning permission for the venue.

Martin Millar has sought advice from planning officers after submitting controversial proposals to open Club Kiss in Woolston.

As reported by the Daily Echo, the club, in St Anne’s Road, opened at the end of September despite not having the planning permission required for it to become a hotel.

It came after Mr Millar’s previous venue, the JCT2 Club in Calmore, was shut down after planning inspectors agreed it was being run illegally as a business in a residential property.

Just last week Mr Millar, 37, admitted defeat in his bid to turn Milton House, a former NHS rehabilitation centre, into a hotel for people with “alternative lifestyles”.

But in the latest twist to the saga, he has appealed for guidance from planning bosses in a last-ditch bid to gain their approval for the development.

His hotel contains two dungeons, a “kinky room”, a “mirror room” and five themed “playrooms”.

In a series of planning documents available to view on the Southampton City Council website, Mr Millar seeks help from Stephen Harrison, the council’s planning projects team leader.

During an email exchange, Mr Millar writes: “You say you are not convinced that I am running a hotel, so could you please advise why you think that and what I can do to make you see that is exactly what I am trying to do.

“Can you tell me what I need to do now to let this application go through?”

Despite Mr Millar’s efforts, ward councillor Warwick Payne told the Daily Echo he expects a “deluge of opposition”

from local residents.

Cllr Payne, who is also the city’s leisure boss, said: “If any applicant asks for help from us, needless to say we will give them help.

“What is clear in this case, though, is that an application for a swingers’ club is almost certain to bring universal condemnation.

Now that this application has gone live, I am fully expecting a deluge of opposition.

“In the last few days, Mr Millar has expressed an interest to turn Milton House into accommodation for students or homeless people instead.

“We would advise Mr Millar that the sensible way forward would be to withdraw his current application now and pursue these avenues.”

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6:07pm Wed 10 Oct 12

My boy says...

What is the problem, why are people looking to object?
Britain encourages a diverse and multicultural environment where people are free and certainly free to express themselves, just so long as it's within the law or in this case within its own four walls.
At least it is upfront about who its trade will be (I suspect that the goings on here are not that different to any other hotel).
I say live and let live, let them get on with it.
The council do next to nothing about the violence and disorder in bedford place, yet they appear to be upset by this hotel? I don't think the hotel will impact the area like the bars and clubs do in town. Get real council busy bodies!!!
What is the problem, why are people looking to object? Britain encourages a diverse and multicultural environment where people are free and certainly free to express themselves, just so long as it's within the law or in this case within its own four walls. At least it is upfront about who its trade will be (I suspect that the goings on here are not that different to any other hotel). I say live and let live, let them get on with it. The council do next to nothing about the violence and disorder in bedford place, yet they appear to be upset by this hotel? I don't think the hotel will impact the area like the bars and clubs do in town. Get real council busy bodies!!! My boy
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8:56pm Wed 10 Oct 12

IronLady2010 says...

I'm bored of reading this blatant advertising now, can we move on.................
I'm bored of reading this blatant advertising now, can we move on................. IronLady2010
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8:59pm Wed 10 Oct 12

SOULJACKER says...

Sheeeesh, get a life people, the guy isn't hurting any body....stop being so Anal (Tisk Tisk).

I gotta admit I like me some S & M every now & then & I am quite partial to a nice dominatrix too :)

I for one for will be digging out my gimp mask & cat 'o' nine tails....Bring it on Daddy :)
Sheeeesh, get a life people, the guy isn't hurting any body....stop being so Anal (Tisk Tisk). I gotta admit I like me some S & M every now & then & I am quite partial to a nice dominatrix too :) I for one for will be digging out my gimp mask & cat 'o' nine tails....Bring it on Daddy :) SOULJACKER
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9:23pm Wed 10 Oct 12

windyboy says...

Let them have a fair crack of the whip....
Let them have a fair crack of the whip.... windyboy
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9:25pm Wed 10 Oct 12

BenjiWinsor says...

Yep let him have the planning permission.
Yep let him have the planning permission. BenjiWinsor
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10:01pm Wed 10 Oct 12

bert_romsey says...

First post sums it up quite nicely as far as I am concerned. The proprietor is being honest and forthright about his establishment and purpose of use/visits. As someone who has worked in and around Bedford Place over the last twenty years, I can honestly say it is quite a cr*p-hole when coming into work on a Monday morning. Too many people, too much alcohol, and too much fast food,judging by their remnants on the paths and in the gutters.
First post sums it up quite nicely as far as I am concerned. The proprietor is being honest and forthright about his establishment and purpose of use/visits. As someone who has worked in and around Bedford Place over the last twenty years, I can honestly say it is quite a cr*p-hole when coming into work on a Monday morning. Too many people, too much alcohol, and too much fast food,judging by their remnants on the paths and in the gutters. bert_romsey
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10:12pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Inform Al says...

Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.
Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts. Inform Al
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10:44pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Georgem says...

Inform Al wrote:
Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.
You forgot to tell us about how you'd beat up the entire universe if it appeared in front of your daughter.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.[/p][/quote]You forgot to tell us about how you'd beat up the entire universe if it appeared in front of your daughter. Georgem
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10:46pm Wed 10 Oct 12

IronLady2010 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.
Perverts? Why are they perverts? If people choose to something, which to be honest, isn't my thing, that is their choice, as it is also my choice not to take part.

It's all behind brick walls and so long as it's run responsibly it will cause no harm to anyone.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.[/p][/quote]Perverts? Why are they perverts? If people choose to something, which to be honest, isn't my thing, that is their choice, as it is also my choice not to take part. It's all behind brick walls and so long as it's run responsibly it will cause no harm to anyone. IronLady2010
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8:44am Thu 11 Oct 12

Taskforce 141 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.
How are the patrons perverted exactly? How do you think you got to be on this planet?

I guarantee you, you did not come about thanks to a game of scrabble!

If some ADULTS are this way inclined with THEIR sexual preferences and give CONSENT then what right do any of us have to interfere as long as it is NOT in public? Answer - No right.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Perhaps if the naked rambler finds his way there he will feel at home with the other perverts.[/p][/quote]How are the patrons perverted exactly? How do you think you got to be on this planet? I guarantee you, you did not come about thanks to a game of scrabble! If some ADULTS are this way inclined with THEIR sexual preferences and give CONSENT then what right do any of us have to interfere as long as it is NOT in public? Answer - No right. Taskforce 141
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10:38am Thu 11 Oct 12

ohec says...

Its all a question of supply and demand and he obviously thinks there is a big enough demand to make it profitable so good luck to him, i am 100% against gambling but i don't go around demanding all bookies should be shut, each to their own as long as the patrons respect their environment when arriving and leaving.
Its all a question of supply and demand and he obviously thinks there is a big enough demand to make it profitable so good luck to him, i am 100% against gambling but i don't go around demanding all bookies should be shut, each to their own as long as the patrons respect their environment when arriving and leaving. ohec
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8:52pm Thu 11 Oct 12

My boy says...

ohec wrote:
Its all a question of supply and demand and he obviously thinks there is a big enough demand to make it profitable so good luck to him, i am 100% against gambling but i don't go around demanding all bookies should be shut, each to their own as long as the patrons respect their environment when arriving and leaving.
Well said ohec. I'm sure that the clientele here will be a bit more considerate than the rabble in town. No vomit, no urine, no damage, no fighting just smiles.....How nice!
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: Its all a question of supply and demand and he obviously thinks there is a big enough demand to make it profitable so good luck to him, i am 100% against gambling but i don't go around demanding all bookies should be shut, each to their own as long as the patrons respect their environment when arriving and leaving.[/p][/quote]Well said ohec. I'm sure that the clientele here will be a bit more considerate than the rabble in town. No vomit, no urine, no damage, no fighting just smiles.....How nice! My boy
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12:08pm Tue 16 Oct 12

sharkforsale says...

I would like to add that I have known Martin Millar for many years now. I do not frequent his parties and have no desire to, that's my personal choice.

What I can say is that Martin himself if a smoke free, drink free, drug free person and runs his establishments in exactly the same way.

Whilst the idea of these parties does not appeal to me, I would have no problems with any of my friends, family or work colleagues attending....as it's their choice.

People are too quick to pass judgement on people, in this case Martin. People are also to quick to jump on a bandwagon if the speed is right. People are too quick to comment on things that they may know nothing about.

Im pretty sure that most of the opposing comments will come from people who have no idea what these events actually entail or may have seen lewd acts on video, DVD or the internet...which begs the question 'Is that how they know????' or 'What were they doing in the first place watching those things?!?!'

Like everyone else, these people are entitled to their views and opinions, it just riles me when the views and opinions are based on ill fact, hearsay basis and 'over the fence' banter.

Martin is a very approachable, articulate and friendly man who would be more than happy to answer these people......if only they would ask!
I would like to add that I have known Martin Millar for many years now. I do not frequent his parties and have no desire to, that's my personal choice. What I can say is that Martin himself if a smoke free, drink free, drug free person and runs his establishments in exactly the same way. Whilst the idea of these parties does not appeal to me, I would have no problems with any of my friends, family or work colleagues attending....as it's their choice. People are too quick to pass judgement on people, in this case Martin. People are also to quick to jump on a bandwagon if the speed is right. People are too quick to comment on things that they may know nothing about. Im pretty sure that most of the opposing comments will come from people who have no idea what these events actually entail or may have seen lewd acts on video, DVD or the internet...which begs the question 'Is that how they know????' or 'What were they doing in the first place watching those things?!?!' Like everyone else, these people are entitled to their views and opinions, it just riles me when the views and opinions are based on ill fact, hearsay basis and 'over the fence' banter. Martin is a very approachable, articulate and friendly man who would be more than happy to answer these people......if only they would ask! sharkforsale
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4:55pm Wed 17 Oct 12

slozzer says...

My boy wrote:
What is the problem, why are people looking to object?
Britain encourages a diverse and multicultural environment where people are free and certainly free to express themselves, just so long as it's within the law or in this case within its own four walls.
At least it is upfront about who its trade will be (I suspect that the goings on here are not that different to any other hotel).
I say live and let live, let them get on with it.
The council do next to nothing about the violence and disorder in bedford place, yet they appear to be upset by this hotel? I don't think the hotel will impact the area like the bars and clubs do in town. Get real council busy bodies!!!
My boy, i would like to quote your opinion in one of my stories I'm writing for my university's newspaper. i have interviewed Martin about the positives and wish to include some public opinions... could i ask your name to put in the newspaper?
[quote][p][bold]My boy[/bold] wrote: What is the problem, why are people looking to object? Britain encourages a diverse and multicultural environment where people are free and certainly free to express themselves, just so long as it's within the law or in this case within its own four walls. At least it is upfront about who its trade will be (I suspect that the goings on here are not that different to any other hotel). I say live and let live, let them get on with it. The council do next to nothing about the violence and disorder in bedford place, yet they appear to be upset by this hotel? I don't think the hotel will impact the area like the bars and clubs do in town. Get real council busy bodies!!![/p][/quote]My boy, i would like to quote your opinion in one of my stories I'm writing for my university's newspaper. i have interviewed Martin about the positives and wish to include some public opinions... could i ask your name to put in the newspaper? slozzer
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