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Pier collapses into Southampton Water (From Daily Echo)
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Southampton's Royal Pier collapses into the water
12:20pm Thursday 3rd June 2010 in News
By Tara Russell, Feature Writer
Pier collapses into Southampton Water
PART of the remains of Southampton's historic Royal Pier has collapsed into the water this morning.
Parents and children enjoying the half term holiday at Mayflower Park were among those looking on as a large section of the derelict structure fell into Southampton Water shortly before 10am.
About a 30 metre section from the middle of the old pier has collapsed into the sea.
A couple from Bristol visiting their daughter at University of Southampton Gordon and Christine Molyneux watched the drama unfold as they were enjoying the views in their car.
Christine, 65, said: "Gordon was asleep at the time and I was looking out across the water then I heard what sounded like when they send the boom out for life boats.
"There were two enormous booms within just seconds of each other. When I first heard it I thought someone must have detonated something. I just had no idea what it was.
"Then there was a terrific tipping of stuff which went crashing down into the water. There were two drops of the pier, one side then the other, and a huge plume of water then came shooting out when it reached the water."
Husband Gordon, 64, who was sleeping at the time, woke up to the pier crashing down.
He said: "It was like a huge tipper offloading rubble and hardcore. The strange thing was the water was so calm. There was no wind, the sun is shining. I don't know what triggered it."
Southampton residents enjoying the views spoke of their sadness that a piece of history is destroyed.
Alan Broughton, 48, from Millbrook, who was visiting Mayflower Park, said: "I cannot believe it has collapsed. You can see the rails poking up through the water.
"It is such a shame. I remember when there was a good dancing club at the bottom.
"I think they will have to pull it down now. It's a bit of history gone under."
Staff from Associated British Ports were immediately on site assessing the situation.
Comments(49)
SotonLad
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10:41am Thu 3 Jun 10
stmarysmush wrote:I do! No not really! Pretty short story from the Echo
So ? Anyone care ?
Shoong
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11:19am Thu 3 Jun 10
Knock them all down.
StEmmosfire
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11:20am Thu 3 Jun 10
Really? It has been sitting there doing nothing for years apart from rotting!
thesotonsaint
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11:27am Thu 3 Jun 10
Shoong wrote:Cheers for that totally moronic statement Shoong, I am sure Mr Morgan will be impressed with that, although, personally I think Simon Cowell is more dangerous. I wouldnt mind checking out Amanda's pontoons! My random statement, all planes could crash, ban air travel!
Piers are just simply dangerous. Knock them all down.
southy
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11:31am Thu 3 Jun 10
Jerry Parsons
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11:56am Thu 3 Jun 10
jammyswine
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12:12pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Spot O'Bother
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12:31pm Thu 3 Jun 10
TwistedWitch
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12:33pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Shoong
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12:41pm Thu 3 Jun 10
thesotonsaint wrote:Mr who?
Shoong wrote:Cheers for that totally moronic statement Shoong, I am sure Mr Morgan will be impressed with that, although, personally I think Simon Cowell is more dangerous. I wouldnt mind checking out Amanda's pontoons! My random statement, all planes could crash, ban air travel!
Piers are just simply dangerous. Knock them all down.
Send in your name & address for humour impant.
Family Man
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12:47pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Linesman
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12:51pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Would it be possible to replace the Royal Pier with the Titanic Museum?
rednwhite1
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12:57pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Build it up with resturants , resturants , resturants , build it up with resturants , poor ola abp.
Then we'll go out for a meal , out for a meal , out for a meal , then we'll go out for a meal , good old abp.
Then it'l fall down again , down again , down again , then it'l fall down again , poor old abp.
stmarysmush
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1:13pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Linesman wrote:lol......wish i had said that first.
Now there is no Iconic building in Southampton to rival the Spinnaker Tower. Would it be possible to replace the Royal Pier with the Titanic Museum?
soton1980
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1:28pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Family Man wrote:Good post and I completely agree with you. Southampton has shed loads of potential to be the best city in the south, but sadly that potential is never taken advantage of.
I think this is symptomatic of the way that Southampton is as a whole... scruffy, unkempt, badly maintained to the point of dereliction, and , from the perspective of the public, any entertainment value went years ago... and the only thing that is sparking any passing interest is its demise as it slips below the surface of the Solent!
HowDictorial
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1:28pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Stillness
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1:53pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Spot O'Bother wrote:An ice rink???
I liked the grab a granny night, but not too sorry to see it go. Any suggestions for something to take it's place?
southy
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2:02pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Stillness wrote:that might be a good location a new pier with a full size ice rink on the end of it with a dance hall also.
Spot O'Bother wrote:An ice rink???
I liked the grab a granny night, but not too sorry to see it go. Any suggestions for something to take it's place?
goard
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2:13pm Thu 3 Jun 10
goard
Zeo
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2:23pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Tottonion
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2:40pm Thu 3 Jun 10
"There were two enormous booms within just seconds of each other. When I first heard it I thought someone must have detonated something. I just had no idea what it was
Yes I wonder what it was, abp perhaps
southy
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2:58pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Zeo wrote:that zoe maybe a good idea because you can not trust our council nor can you trust abp.
maybe we should all chip in and buy it and then rebuild it lol
IanRRR
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2:59pm Thu 3 Jun 10
OSPREYSAINT
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3:22pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Family Man
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3:28pm Thu 3 Jun 10
One could be forgiven for thinking that it is all part of some deliberate strategy, if of course, those who make the decisions were that intelligent!
StEmmosfire
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4:31pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Family Man wrote:Could you have written any more?
I think this is comparable to the West Pier at Brighton, albeit a much smaller version. It was once "iconic", extremely popular and very well used. Over years it declined as no one thought to maintain it properly, although happy to extract every penny of profit but not to re-invest it. Eventually the years take their toll, and the cost of bringing it back into use becomes astronomical (a classic case of a "stitch in time"). In the meantime, the local authority and owners have dithered and obfuscated (repeated feasibility studies, "grand plans" and the occasional proferred hope (like a grant) only to see it dashed...) and against the wishes of any pressure groups or those who would like to see it preserved as part of the local heritage. Eventually it becomes more and more of an eyesore, and either burns or falls down.... One could be forgiven for thinking that it is all part of some deliberate strategy, if of course, those who make the decisions were that intelligent!
Stillness
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4:34pm Thu 3 Jun 10
StEmmosfire wrote:You just had to ask didnt you lol.
Family Man wrote:Could you have written any more?
I think this is comparable to the West Pier at Brighton, albeit a much smaller version. It was once "iconic", extremely popular and very well used. Over years it declined as no one thought to maintain it properly, although happy to extract every penny of profit but not to re-invest it. Eventually the years take their toll, and the cost of bringing it back into use becomes astronomical (a classic case of a "stitch in time"). In the meantime, the local authority and owners have dithered and obfuscated (repeated feasibility studies, "grand plans" and the occasional proferred hope (like a grant) only to see it dashed...) and against the wishes of any pressure groups or those who would like to see it preserved as part of the local heritage. Eventually it becomes more and more of an eyesore, and either burns or falls down.... One could be forgiven for thinking that it is all part of some deliberate strategy, if of course, those who make the decisions were that intelligent!
Rob444
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5:49pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Piers have been rebuilt at various locations around the coast, with great success.
Now let the money grabbing property developers put something back, that we can ALL enjoy.
Matt Probert
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6:07pm Thu 3 Jun 10
<ducks and runs>
Matt
Reality-man
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6:28pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Spot O'Bother wrote:Water?
I liked the grab a granny night, but not too sorry to see it go. Any suggestions for something to take it's place?
Westsidestory
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7:44pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Andy Lombardi
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7:48pm Thu 3 Jun 10
forest hump
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8:01pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Westsidestory wrote:So, I presume you do not need gasoline or electricity? Go and live in a cave, or perhaps the moon! Oh! sorry. No flounders or whiting in caves or moon. No, I guess you travel everywhere on a bike and are self-sufficient for energy. No gas or electric bills and no car to run or maintain?
It only needs the Refinery and power station, not to mention the rest of the 'Filth' emitting chimneys, to follow suit now, to return things to their once pleasant state. I used to like to sit on the end of the pier as a lad, catching a few flounders for tea, and watch the schools of Porpoises chasing the huge shoals of Whiting up river, to ambush them in the shallows at Redbridge.
My View from the Hill
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9:02pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Markmag
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10:18pm Thu 3 Jun 10
I'll get me coat.
Adrian Smith
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10:20pm Thu 3 Jun 10
southy wrote:Thatcher's fault?
the royal pier need to be confiscated from abpj, ever since abp had taken over the pier they have done nothing to protect it. they have just left it to rot. they knew to well that the piles and beams needed to be re-tarred after the fire.
Stillness
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10:20pm Thu 3 Jun 10
forest hump wrote:Be careful what you say.....Many a true word spoken in jest. If we carry on the same way as we have for the last two thousand years we could all soon be fighting for the cave with the best view.
Westsidestory wrote:So, I presume you do not need gasoline or electricity? Go and live in a cave, or perhaps the moon! Oh! sorry. No flounders or whiting in caves or moon. No, I guess you travel everywhere on a bike and are self-sufficient for energy. No gas or electric bills and no car to run or maintain?
It only needs the Refinery and power station, not to mention the rest of the 'Filth' emitting chimneys, to follow suit now, to return things to their once pleasant state. I used to like to sit on the end of the pier as a lad, catching a few flounders for tea, and watch the schools of Porpoises chasing the huge shoals of Whiting up river, to ambush them in the shallows at Redbridge.
OSPREYSAINT
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10:24pm Thu 3 Jun 10
Adrian Smith wrote:You are mixing up Peerage with Pier age.
southy wrote: the royal pier need to be confiscated from abpj, ever since abp had taken over the pier they have done nothing to protect it. they have just left it to rot. they knew to well that the piles and beams needed to be re-tarred after the fire.Thatcher's fault?
Stillness
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10:40pm Thu 3 Jun 10
OSPREYSAINT wrote:LOL, Love it, Great one. Can I be your manager? Ill have you on Who wants to be a star in the eye, got no hope by next week. And all for 115% comision.
Adrian Smith wrote:You are mixing up Peerage with Pier age.
southy wrote: the royal pier need to be confiscated from abpj, ever since abp had taken over the pier they have done nothing to protect it. they have just left it to rot. they knew to well that the piles and beams needed to be re-tarred after the fire.Thatcher's fault?
Stillness
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10:40pm Thu 3 Jun 10
OSPREYSAINT wrote:LOL, Love it, Great one. Can I be your manager? Ill have you on Who wants to be a star in the eye, got no hope by next week. And all for 115% comision.
Adrian Smith wrote:You are mixing up Peerage with Pier age.
southy wrote: the royal pier need to be confiscated from abpj, ever since abp had taken over the pier they have done nothing to protect it. they have just left it to rot. they knew to well that the piles and beams needed to be re-tarred after the fire.Thatcher's fault?
stay local
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3:22am Fri 4 Jun 10
Or could it be where the SBS have been testing their air rifles? Could that have caused the sinking of the poo barge in Woolston last year and now the pier??
Even worse it could be part of the uprising by the real and not pretend true socialist party, who want to remove all objects that remind us of our decadent history and return to true socialist values, that we saw during the middle ages in England, just imagine the fun we would have with the plague ,diphtheria, small pox and other proper diseases, along with reopening the coal mines and the burning of coal to heat houses!
southy
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12:47pm Fri 4 Jun 10
i did put up a link to let you and others read on what happen in guatemala city (a sinkhole) so before you make your self look a bigger fool than you all ready have done, i suggest you read up on it, and find out the reasons why these sinkhole accures.
Tirau Dan
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1:02pm Fri 4 Jun 10
stmarysmush wrote:Well said guys..
Linesman wrote:lol......wish i had said that first.
Now there is no Iconic building in Southampton to rival the Spinnaker Tower. Would it be possible to replace the Royal Pier with the Titanic Museum?
I wish it could be so.
Smoking cigars and chatting up girls at the Mecca Ballroom, then later working at Blue Funnel.. last deckhand of the MV Varos then on to the Princessa and maiden voyage of Solent Scene. Great days with Messrs Barkham and Hogg. Bless all the Skippers, barmen and hands all the lovely girls who worked at The Mecca and in the Kiosks in those days. A knickerbocker glory on the end of the pier between docks cruises was real treat.
PS Is a police check for explosives and or tampering required?
stay local
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3:18pm Fri 4 Jun 10
southy wrote:As usual a complete side step, it is a bit like comparing a lightening strike to and earthquake.
stay local if i was you i would read what happen in guatemala city only a few days ago, even lo this is a large scale off what nature can do to balance it self, and is very unlikely we would get it here on the same scale, but we do get them here to where they can range from a few inches to a few feet across. and its all due to the sub soil being washed though a under laying bed. we have a gravel bed right though this area and when you cut though a gravel bed and dont seal the edge where its been cut though, it then gives some where for the subsoil to go wash though, has in our case straight into the river. i did put up a link to let you and others read on what happen in guatemala city (a sinkhole) so before you make your self look a bigger fool than you all ready have done, i suggest you read up on it, and find out the reasons why these sinkhole accures.
Come on where and when was the 200 mile land slip, yes, we know about the sink hole. But that was not related to your initial comment; once again you are clutching at straws to defend you ludicrous statements.
Tell us where and when there was a two hundred mile landslip; just saying I saw it in national geographic magazine is not sufficient or perhaps you are mistaken. Perhaps the location moved to Guatemala, (they are only about 1000 miles apart so by your logic the same thing which only took several years to get to each end) it could a bit like your statement where you claim Rotterdam is moving inland.
Please hurry as I am thinking of compiling a list of Southy’s claims to add to any of you posts just think….. Missing ice rinks moving, cities, landslips, air rifles and the rest it is not really a record to be proud of.
southy
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6:35pm Fri 4 Jun 10
stay local wrote:stop twisting words stay local you been cornered yet again and you dont like it. land slip brazil i did not say it was 200 miles i said it was 200 miles away from the cause. and if you was interested you be looking it up, the national geographic is a very good sorce off information and closer to any facts you find on the internet, instead off trying to discredit me, its not working people are all ready saying what a bloody idiot you are on other sites, all your doing is making self look like a sad silly fool. you want to see what they are saying about you on face book and twitter.
southy wrote:As usual a complete side step, it is a bit like comparing a lightening strike to and earthquake.
stay local if i was you i would read what happen in guatemala city only a few days ago, even lo this is a large scale off what nature can do to balance it self, and is very unlikely we would get it here on the same scale, but we do get them here to where they can range from a few inches to a few feet across. and its all due to the sub soil being washed though a under laying bed. we have a gravel bed right though this area and when you cut though a gravel bed and dont seal the edge where its been cut though, it then gives some where for the subsoil to go wash though, has in our case straight into the river. i did put up a link to let you and others read on what happen in guatemala city (a sinkhole) so before you make your self look a bigger fool than you all ready have done, i suggest you read up on it, and find out the reasons why these sinkhole accures.
Come on where and when was the 200 mile land slip, yes, we know about the sink hole. But that was not related to your initial comment; once again you are clutching at straws to defend you ludicrous statements.
Tell us where and when there was a two hundred mile landslip; just saying I saw it in national geographic magazine is not sufficient or perhaps you are mistaken. Perhaps the location moved to Guatemala, (they are only about 1000 miles apart so by your logic the same thing which only took several years to get to each end) it could a bit like your statement where you claim Rotterdam is moving inland.
Please hurry as I am thinking of compiling a list of Southy’s claims to add to any of you posts just think….. Missing ice rinks moving, cities, landslips, air rifles and the rest it is not really a record to be proud of.
stay local
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11:48pm Fri 4 Jun 10
To recover your fallen glory simply tell us the exact date and place and name of the 200 mile landslip you say occurred, so this claim can be verified, I can not find any information of a landslip of this nature, I can find one stated to have got to 200miles per hour, 200 tons of soil etc. All reference materials say the St Helens slip was the largest; none talk of a flat ground slip over a long distance.
So give us
The date of this great land slip
The place of this great land slip
So you can prove me wrong, rather than claiming it could be a sink hole in another country.
southy
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1:31am Sat 5 Jun 10
stay local wrote:still twisting words stay local, but keep going, look at the word AWAY i did not say it was 200 miles off land slip like your trying to twist it into, i said it cause a land slip 200 miles AWAY.
My goodness Southy we agree on something, it is hard to discredit you , mainly as you do it so well for your self.
To recover your fallen glory simply tell us the exact date and place and name of the 200 mile landslip you say occurred, so this claim can be verified, I can not find any information of a landslip of this nature, I can find one stated to have got to 200miles per hour, 200 tons of soil etc. All reference materials say the St Helens slip was the largest; none talk of a flat ground slip over a long distance.
So give us
The date of this great land slip
The place of this great land slip
So you can prove me wrong, rather than claiming it could be a sink hole in another country.
i will repeat what i said in the first place.
the land slip in brazil was cause by the chopping down of trees on a plain, and 200 miles away on a mountain side after a wetter season then normal the land slip. now i told you where to look it up, the rest is up to you to go searching. i did not say in any place how big the land slip was i just siad it happen 200 miles away from the cause.
and st helen mt was the largest land silp in the usa, and not the world.
stay local
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5:24am Sat 5 Jun 10
southy wrote:When
stay local wrote: My goodness Southy we agree on something, it is hard to discredit you , mainly as you do it so well for your self. To recover your fallen glory simply tell us the exact date and place and name of the 200 mile landslip you say occurred, so this claim can be verified, I can not find any information of a landslip of this nature, I can find one stated to have got to 200miles per hour, 200 tons of soil etc. All reference materials say the St Helens slip was the largest; none talk of a flat ground slip over a long distance. So give us The date of this great land slip The place of this great land slip So you can prove me wrong, rather than claiming it could be a sink hole in another country.still twisting words stay local, but keep going, look at the word AWAY i did not say it was 200 miles off land slip like your trying to twist it into, i said it cause a land slip 200 miles AWAY. i will repeat what i said in the first place. the land slip in brazil was cause by the chopping down of trees on a plain, and 200 miles away on a mountain side after a wetter season then normal the land slip. now i told you where to look it up, the rest is up to you to go searching. i did not say in any place how big the land slip was i just siad it happen 200 miles away from the cause. and st helen mt was the largest land silp in the usa, and not the world.
Where
stmarysmush says...
10:33am Thu 3 Jun 10