Protestors art sale demonstration in vain (From Daily Echo)
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Plans to sell off art are voted through
3:00pm Wednesday 16th September 2009 in Southampton art sell-off
By Peter Law, Feature Writer
Protestors on the steps of Southampton's Civic Centre this afternoon.
PLANS to sell of some of Southampton's art works have been voted through despite a demonstration to stop the controversial move.
More than 60 people gathered on the steps on the Civic Centre shouting “hands off not for sale” and “don’t vote Tory”.
At a meeting of the full council, they handed over a petition with more than 2,500 names deploring the proposed sale of two pieces of art.
But the, the Tory-controlled council that wants to sell a painting by English artist Alfred Munnings and a sculpture by French master Auguste Rodin, voted to continue with the plans.
All funds raised will help pay for the £15m Sea City Museum, which will feature a Titanic exhibition and new space for the City Art Gallery.
Councillors voted to formally approach the Attorney General Baroness Scotland of Asthal – the Government’s chief legal advisor – and powerful Museums, Libraries and Archives Council to gain approval for the move.
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Bartonian
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6:05pm Wed 16 Sep 09
ex plodicus wrote:You are tripe, if all you care about is football!
more than SIXTY people attended! WOW, that just goes to show how much the people of southampton care about this tripe. sell the rubbish and use the money on something good, maybe a couple of decent football players?
clausentum
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6:41pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Bartonian wrote:I'd like to see SCC commission a full-size statue of Le God with his foot stuck in his mouth ( symbolising his revelation of his betting scam antics ), and footnotes to the statue explaining there is no correlation between the skills in a footballers feet and having a brain.
ex plodicus wrote:You are tripe, if all you care about is football!
more than SIXTY people attended! WOW, that just goes to show how much the people of southampton care about this tripe. sell the rubbish and use the money on something good, maybe a couple of decent football players?
clausentum
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6:42pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Bartonian wrote:I'd like to see SCC commission a full-size statue of Le God with his foot stuck in his mouth ( symbolising his revelation of his betting scam antics ), and footnotes to the statue explaining there is no correlation between the skills in a footballers feet and having a brain.
ex plodicus wrote:You are tripe, if all you care about is football!
more than SIXTY people attended! WOW, that just goes to show how much the people of southampton care about this tripe. sell the rubbish and use the money on something good, maybe a couple of decent football players?
ex plodicus
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7:00pm Wed 16 Sep 09
ex plodicus
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7:15pm Wed 16 Sep 09
sw/TINY-LEAN! doh
roybrownartist
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8:12pm Wed 16 Sep 09
stuartjebbitt
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10:11pm Wed 16 Sep 09
No doubt this will be a pathetic attempt to compete with the Historic Dockyard at Portsmouth.
(so we're onto a loser almost straight away)
The Titanic disaster was a human tragedy, not a tourist attraction.
It was also built in Belfast and last sailed out of Cork.
Why not a Benny Hill Museum, at least he actually came from Southampton!
Condor Man
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10:56pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Jenjo
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11:00pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Jenjo
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11:04pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Swalk
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11:17pm Wed 16 Sep 09
stuartjebbitt
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11:19pm Wed 16 Sep 09
I rest my case.
stuartjebbitt
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11:20pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Condor Man wrote:That's EXACTLY the Royston Vasey type attitude ("This is a local museum, there's nothing for you strangers here") that puts people off visiting Southampton in the first place!
Unless you are a Southampton resident you have no right to comment. I'd rather have a museum to take my kids to instead of paintings that are never seen.
I rest my case
southy
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11:30pm Wed 16 Sep 09
Jenjo wrote:you should all ways think twice before voting a tory in to power, weather it be local or national, the torys are well known for a load of things, like selling of things that dont belong to them, snatching milk from the school kids, tory the party of high unemployment, and many more.
Just noticed Hannides is in till 2012 so we'll focus on Samuels instead, he doesn't even live in Bassett so it will be relatively easy to persuade people to vote him out
stuartjebbitt, Eastleigh i see you cotton on to him very quickly, just play along with him and others, like him.
freemantlegirl2
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9:40am Thu 17 Sep 09
Jenjo wrote:as Alec Samuels has been on the Council for years, who is voting for him? He's a windbag of hot air, always has been and always will be. However, that isn't the point.
Just noticed Hannides is in till 2012 so we'll focus on Samuels instead, he doesn't even live in Bassett so it will be relatively easy to persuade people to vote him out
Well done to those that demonstrated, but the first poster here is right 60 people don't really reflect a large majority of Southampton residents. As some of these pieces are being exhibited elsewhere it seems ludicrous to keep them. I agree that they shouldn't be sold to a private owner and should remain for the public to enjoy if they so wish, doesn't matter whether that's in Southampton or not.
Sadly, whether you are an art fan you are going to have to admit that a museum may attract far more people. The present art gallery is not conducive to showing art at it's best. My children have visited there with me and with school and just are not interested in it. i remember seeing the Mona Lisa in the Louvre when I was younger and wondering what all the fuss was about. I'm takiing my daughter to the Pop Art exhibition in October at the Tate Modern, I know she will find this more interesting! We can't be sentimental and just keep art for the sake of knowing it's there, it has to appeal. Although I don't agree with the way that the Council have gone about this, or practically the way they are going about anything at the moment! I am glad to say I have never voted for a Tory Councillor in my life and never will do so!
Condor Man
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9:49am Thu 17 Sep 09
Lone Ranger
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9:56am Thu 17 Sep 09
Condor Man wrote:Well you may not have noticed that Bassett is not just the Avenue.
Alec Samuels is the Bassett councillor, as in Hannides. People in that ward live in big houses and have lots of money, of course they are going to vote Tory as they don't need the services that the less well off require.
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In your argument you have conveniently forgot to mention that Bassett ALSO includes the flower road estate plus a couple of other areas that do not have big houses and lots of money.
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Mind you i cant imagine your super heroes messrs Hannides and Samuels ever visit them !!.
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Like yourself....forget they are there
roybrownartist
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11:32am Thu 17 Sep 09
Gavin Marsh
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12:31pm Thu 17 Sep 09
Maybe we ought to consider standing save our collection candidates in the next local elections
stuartjebbitt
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12:48pm Thu 17 Sep 09
roybrownartist wrote:well said. Tory and Labour are just two cheeks of the same backside.
can we get this away from labour tory point winning please and discuss the fact that it is our citys culture that is under threat here, pluss if it goes ahead here it will happen in other parts of the country
I wouldn't trust either as far as I could throw them.
roybrownartist
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12:59pm Thu 17 Sep 09
LeTiss Nose
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2:53pm Thu 17 Sep 09
Lone Ranger wrote:The majority of Flower Roads are in Swaythling.
Condor Man wrote: Alec Samuels is the Bassett councillor, as in Hannides. People in that ward live in big houses and have lots of money, of course they are going to vote Tory as they don't need the services that the less well off require.Well you may not have noticed that Bassett is not just the Avenue. --- In your argument you have conveniently forgot to mention that Bassett ALSO includes the flower road estate plus a couple of other areas that do not have big houses and lots of money. ----- Mind you i cant imagine your super heroes messrs Hannides and Samuels ever visit them !!. -- Like yourself....forget they are there
Anyhow,
Surely there should be some figures to show how many visitors the Art Gallery pulls in each year, because I'm predicting they will be about a tenth of what a waterfront museum could attract.
Any decision that is made is bound to annoy a minority, and let's face it, a 60 strong protest is a minority.
Utilitarianism - the greatest good for the greatest number.
roybrownartist
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2:59pm Thu 17 Sep 09
southy
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2:59pm Thu 17 Sep 09
roybrownartist wrote:sorry but it is also politics, and people are right in pointing the short falling off the two main partys, for they do not care enough about the locals, there are one or that do care but they are being shot down by the others, there are counciler's that are thinking of leaving the labour party because of the way they behave now days, they are slowly being push to one side and out of the party.
can we talk about the affect this will have on our citys reputation not about the short sighted nature of the the council, this is of national importance, as someone who showed at burry art gallery as there Lowry was sold by the council i can say it was devistating to that gallerys national and international reputation, not moaning about city politics
Pam W
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9:46am Fri 18 Sep 09
ex plodicus says...
6:04pm Wed 16 Sep 09