Seven jailed in huge drugs operation (From Daily Echo)

Handsome devils aren't they?

the bloke on the right looks like a human slug

I guess they had to take up a life of crime when they failed to get work as fashion models.

AAAAAAAAAND , once again the photos say it all !!!

Pretty Boys looking smug after a term of Bird they will look more ugly!

I am shocked that the one on the right is not the gang leader, he looks like a brain surgeon or astronaut, surely he should have been in charge !!

apart from the black bloke it looks like a photo shoot or shrek look a like

Mastermind contestants.


Second thoughts



Thicko scum

Well done DS Ross Toms.

The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

What you smokin?

elvisimo wrote:

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

What you smokin?

I don't smoke, I hate smoking!! I am merely a realist. Sorry to disappoint you!!!

cliffwalker wrote:
I guess they had to take up a life of crime when they failed to get work as fashion models.

Crash test dummies maybe!!.

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

How would the prisons be less full if it was legalised, which you assume would mean less addicts stealing or assaulting to feed their addiction locked up? If it was legalised do you not think this would mean a larger number of addicts committing various crimes and ending up in the same place? Please just take a look at the pictures above again and see exactly why drugs are illegal considering what long term drug abuse does to you.

David Icke wrote:

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

How would the prisons be less full if it was legalised, which you assume would mean less addicts stealing or assaulting to feed their addiction locked up? If it was legalised do you not think this would mean a larger number of addicts committing various crimes and ending up in the same place? Please just take a look at the pictures above again and see exactly why drugs are illegal considering what long term drug abuse does to you.

People caught smuggling, possessing, dealing would not be in prison, There are many alcoholics in the UK who do not fund their habit by breaking into peoples houses or mugging old ladies. What we have in the UK and many other countries are areas that are taken over by criminal gangs who thrive on the importation and distribution of drugs to society. These areas are full of criminals attracted to them who are committing crimes that are maybe not directly arttributal to drugs but are linked. Yes of course there would still be addicts but at least they would get clean drugs ie not drugs mixed with dubious agents, brick dust, bleach, talcum powder, rat poison etc etc etc. The drugs sold would be certified and taxed and some of the tax returned to society to treat addicts etc rather than finding its way into the hands of the drugs lords in Columbia etc. I absolutely agree with you that longterm drug use is bad for your health, however I would counter your argument by asking how many people are addicted to prescribed drugs?? Lots of people!! Ironically mant drug dealers do not have a drug problem, only their customers and it is hardly in their interest to wean them off drugs or supply them with the best quality available. Sadly the 'war on drugs' is unwinnable. Please tell me I am wrong and then explain how you would win the war!!

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote:
The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Thank you!!!

southampton999 wrote:

David Icke wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

How would the prisons be less full if it was legalised, which you assume would mean less addicts stealing or assaulting to feed their addiction locked up? If it was legalised do you not think this would mean a larger number of addicts committing various crimes and ending up in the same place? Please just take a look at the pictures above again and see exactly why drugs are illegal considering what long term drug abuse does to you.

People caught smuggling, possessing, dealing would not be in prison, There are many alcoholics in the UK who do not fund their habit by breaking into peoples houses or mugging old ladies. What we have in the UK and many other countries are areas that are taken over by criminal gangs who thrive on the importation and distribution of drugs to society. These areas are full of criminals attracted to them who are committing crimes that are maybe not directly arttributal to drugs but are linked. Yes of course there would still be addicts but at least they would get clean drugs ie not drugs mixed with dubious agents, brick dust, bleach, talcum powder, rat poison etc etc etc. The drugs sold would be certified and taxed and some of the tax returned to society to treat addicts etc rather than finding its way into the hands of the drugs lords in Columbia etc. I absolutely agree with you that longterm drug use is bad for your health, however I would counter your argument by asking how many people are addicted to prescribed drugs?? Lots of people!! Ironically mant drug dealers do not have a drug problem, only their customers and it is hardly in their interest to wean them off drugs or supply them with the best quality available. Sadly the 'war on drugs' is unwinnable. Please tell me I am wrong and then explain how you would win the war!!

The war on drugs as i'm sure anyone in the forces knows is unwinnable but doesn't mean for one second they should just give up trying to reduce as much as possible the addicts, crime related incidents and victims, theft and sometimes murder that results from drug abuse. And as i said, the more number of drug users whether in prison or not, means more people doing whatever they can to get their next fix. Legalising drugs would not stop people being less addicted or reduce crime in these areas.

We could argue about what does the body more damage alcohol or illegal drugs, but we would only repeat what we have both read about in experiments and statistics and would get nowhere. All i can say is that i see drug users and alcoholics daily, and drugs have a more mental and physical long term effect both on it's users and it's consequences. Answering your question about prescribed drugs, it's not those that cause drug related crime as the doctors can combat the problem in many ways if that was the case. An amount of cocaine for example if you brought it legally would lead to more excess use, as,with anything, it's when you abuse it it's a problem. There would be no limits.

You answered your own question when you mentioned that crime and it's effects is far less likely with alcoholics who can basically buy a litre or two of cider for about a quid anyway and don't commit half as much crime as a psychotic long term drug user.
People who react badly and have low tolerance levels of drug taking ARE the minority that we hear about, but legalising would only increase the number still.
The more tolerant you are to drugs, the more you need next time. Even if there is an age limit if drugs were ever to be legalised this would not stop minors experimenting. If drug use does what it can do to to a grown adult can you imagine what could do to a young kid? or a group of them each encouraging the other to do more? As i said there there would be no limits.

If people did things in moderation there would be no problem but there will always be those that can't, and it's those that we have to worry about if it was in a no holds barred society. And quite frankly i find that very worrying.

David Icke says...
1:12am Sat 26 Jan 13

You see, the problem is, kids will get their drugs ANYWAY from drug dealers who will often rob them, encourage them to buy different drugs, rip them off etc. There is no control mechanism in place at all. Same goes for adults, casual and heavy users.

I believe what my friend is trying to say is that some degree of control producing its own revenue which is then pumped back into the system is better then no control at all. This only supplies revenue to criminals.

To put it simply, it is a lesser of two evils. Its just logic.

Drug outlets would have staff trained to counsel users and encourage them to stop rather then push poor quality drugs on them knowing they will be back for more by the end of the day.

From what I hear cocaine on the streets these days is only about 20% pure if you are lucky.

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Oh No Mr “I hate Southampton and Hampshire” also wants to legalise Class A drugs

****-Biker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Oh No Mr “I hate Southampton and Hampshire” also wants to legalise Class A drugs

And? The 'war on drugs' was lost before it even began.

kingnotail wrote:

****-Biker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Oh No Mr “I hate Southampton and Hampshire” also wants to legalise Class A drugs

And? The 'war on drugs' was lost before it even began.

And it definitely isn't being won in 'wonderful' Southampton - this place is rife with class A drugs.

I am aware it isn't but I am not going to give in just because the battle is a little tough

****-Biker wrote:
I am aware it isn't but I am not going to give in just because the battle is a little tough

The battle is more than a little tough and is a waste of time, As Mr Icke has also mentioned. Drugs are rife in society and whatever objections you may have moral or legal are objections that are shared by many people. However the fact remains that drugs can be dangerous and are currently controlled by criminals and their gangs who use their prrofits from drugs in other illegal activities. If the drug supply was controlled by the authorities then quality would be consistent and safe after all most drugs on the street either have direct or indirect equivalents used every day by the NHS. Money earned in tax could and should be used to assist addicts (who will be addicts whether the drugs were legally sourced or illegally sourced) in managing their addiction. The space freed up in our prisons could then be used to lock up robbers, villains etc who currently are finding it very difficult to be locked up and removed from society!! The income would be taken from the criminal gangs who have the ability to use their money, power and influence to make many peoples lives hell.One interesting point regarding drugs is that at the end of the 1980's early 1990's when the police turned a 'blind eye' to MDMA use amongst football hooligans the hooliganism stopped dead in its tracks!! They were too busy 'loving' each other to fight!

“One interesting point regarding drugs is that at the end of the 1980's early 1990's when the police turned a 'blind eye' to MDMA use amongst football hooligans the hooliganism stopped dead in its tracks!! They were too busy 'loving' each other to fight!”

Apart from the 1990/91 season which showed a noticeable decline but that could be down more to the Hillsborough stadium disaster and the resulting report by Lord Taylor, your statement is a little thin on facts

kingnotail wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

****-Biker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Oh No Mr “I hate Southampton and Hampshire” also wants to legalise Class A drugs

And? The 'war on drugs' was lost before it even began.

And it definitely isn't being won in 'wonderful' Southampton - this place is rife with class A drugs.

like any major city, Southampton is no different

Subject48 wrote:
David Icke says... 1:12am Sat 26 Jan 13 You see, the problem is, kids will get their drugs ANYWAY from drug dealers who will often rob them, encourage them to buy different drugs, rip them off etc. There is no control mechanism in place at all. Same goes for adults, casual and heavy users. I believe what my friend is trying to say is that some degree of control producing its own revenue which is then pumped back into the system is better then no control at all. This only supplies revenue to criminals. To put it simply, it is a lesser of two evils. Its just logic. Drug outlets would have staff trained to counsel users and encourage them to stop rather then push poor quality drugs on them knowing they will be back for more by the end of the day. From what I hear cocaine on the streets these days is only about 20% pure if you are lucky.

Revenue from drug legislation would be the least of societies worries if it were ever to happen, but as we're on the subject, have you not heard of corrupt government and mafia type involved police forces that have a hand in the running of certain countries due to the vast amount of money that is already being made from illegal drug related crime? Do you really think people in positions of power are whiter than white? (No pun meant).

Maybe i am going a bit too far here,as it's the larger countries with already high crime statistics that this happens, but where there's money to be made there will be crime anywhere.

Of course some degree of control is better than none at all, but If the only reason people think legalising drugs is okay is because they would make enough money back to counteract the problems it causes, then that's ridiculous.

Certain addicts today who have been arrested after committing a crime now have a choice of going to prison or going to regular trained councelling sessions to prove they want to change their ways and get rehabilitated. What do you guess most of them choose?
The people you talk of who counsel users and encourage them to stop using already have a hell of a job, what chance would addicts have with the temptation of a society legally selling it to them every day?

From what i hear, the more inland cities have more chance of selling less pure drugs as by then more people have got their hands on it and mixed it to go further, and places like Southampton on the outskirts of mainland Britain is therefore more cleaner as it's closer to the ports and 'fresher'. But as you said, this is just what people hear.

southampton999 wrote:

****-Biker wrote: I am aware it isn't but I am not going to give in just because the battle is a little tough

The battle is more than a little tough and is a waste of time, As Mr Icke has also mentioned. Drugs are rife in society and whatever objections you may have moral or legal are objections that are shared by many people. However the fact remains that drugs can be dangerous and are currently controlled by criminals and their gangs who use their prrofits from drugs in other illegal activities. If the drug supply was controlled by the authorities then quality would be consistent and safe after all most drugs on the street either have direct or indirect equivalents used every day by the NHS. Money earned in tax could and should be used to assist addicts (who will be addicts whether the drugs were legally sourced or illegally sourced) in managing their addiction. The space freed up in our prisons could then be used to lock up robbers, villains etc who currently are finding it very difficult to be locked up and removed from society!! The income would be taken from the criminal gangs who have the ability to use their money, power and influence to make many peoples lives hell.One interesting point regarding drugs is that at the end of the 1980's early 1990's when the police turned a 'blind eye' to MDMA use amongst football hooligans the hooliganism stopped dead in its tracks!! They were too busy 'loving' each other to fight!

I think you'll find i didn't say anything about it being a waste of time at all.

Also, do you know what's worse than someone who's drunk?

It's someone who's been mixing their alcohol with drugs.

****-Biker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

****-Biker wrote:

kingnotail wrote:

southampton999 wrote: The sooner they legalise drugs the better society will be. The government will control it, tax it and users will be able to buy drugs that haven't passed through the hands of the scumbags in this article. They will NEVER win the war on drugs as it is far too lucrative for criminal gangs and the police will never have the resources to stop it. The prisons would be half empty as half of the inmates are in there for offences linked to drugs either dealing, possession or offences linked to addiction (theft, burglary etc). Most of the media, politicians, police officers have taken drugs either in the past or currently . Alcohol is the most deadly drug in the UK today but it is taxed and encouraged. Alcohol kills far more people that drugs ever would. I am sure that many other readers will disagree strongly with this post and I totally understand where they are coming from. But the facts remain that there are NO countries on the planet who have won the war on drugs and never will. There is a whole underclass in the country involved in drugs supply and use. Criminalising these people merely marginalises them further making it more difficult for them to become useful members of society and some even wear their drug use as a 'badge of honour'.

Very well said. The most sensible comment I have ever read on this website.

Oh No Mr “I hate Southampton and Hampshire” also wants to legalise Class A drugs

And? The 'war on drugs' was lost before it even began.

And it definitely isn't being won in 'wonderful' Southampton - this place is rife with class A drugs.

like any major city, Southampton is no different

Keep telling yourself that. I've seen things in Southampton that would make the worst parts of London, Manchester and Glasgow blush.