Cyclists 'too smelly' for pub (From Daily Echo)

sotonwinch09 wrote:
This is what happens when you ban smoking.

Elgy wrote:
“My only reaction was stunned amazement – I have run enough marathons over the years to recognise when I am sweaty and smelly, but even then no one has ever complained.” Well this time they did. Get over it.

S!mon wrote:
Maybe next time they can carry a tin of deodarant with them?

Shoong wrote:

S!mon wrote: Maybe next time they can carry a tin of deodarant with them?

... and be considerate towards other people..? These are cycle riders! Dream on!

john210 wrote:
As one of the cyclists concerned and to redress the balance:
I did speak to the only two customers in our part of the bar who were sitting right next to us - two ladies - they were as nonplussed as us and confirmed we did not smell. I did not see any other customers.
It was only 16C outside - we came in to warm up!
I understand Romsey Ramblers were also asked to leave on a previous occasion.
The mysterious Zara Mason? - I never saw her from first to last - was she even there - if she was there she used her restaurant manager to make the comments to us -very brave - I asked him who the owner was and he did not volunteer her!
It took us over 10 minutes to receive our orders - they were quite happy to take our money before asking us to leave.
Perhaps the Lamb just wants a certain type of customer

freefinker wrote:

john210 wrote:
As one of the cyclists concerned and to redress the balance:
I did speak to the only two customers in our part of the bar who were sitting right next to us - two ladies - they were as nonplussed as us and confirmed we did not smell. I did not see any other customers.
It was only 16C outside - we came in to warm up!
I understand Romsey Ramblers were also asked to leave on a previous occasion.
The mysterious Zara Mason? - I never saw her from first to last - was she even there - if she was there she used her restaurant manager to make the comments to us -very brave - I asked him who the owner was and he did not volunteer her!
It took us over 10 minutes to receive our orders - they were quite happy to take our money before asking us to leave.
Perhaps the Lamb just wants a certain type of customer

Thanks for the post John.
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Not that it will make any difference - the hounds have already decided you should all be hung drawn and quartered.
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Don't want facts to get in the way of a good rant now, do we?

john210 wrote:
As one of the cyclists concerned and to redress the balance: I did speak to the only two customers in our part of the bar who were sitting right next to us - two ladies - they were as nonplussed as us and confirmed we did not smell. I did not see any other customers. It was only 16C outside - we came in to warm up! I understand Romsey Ramblers were also asked to leave on a previous occasion. The mysterious Zara Mason? - I never saw her from first to last - was she even there - if she was there she used her restaurant manager to make the comments to us -very brave - I asked him who the owner was and he did not volunteer her! It took us over 10 minutes to receive our orders - they were quite happy to take our money before asking us to leave. Perhaps the Lamb just wants a certain type of customer

john210 wrote:
Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

freefinker wrote:
.. well, I suppose this takes the pressure off the usual targets - chavs, immigrants, illegals, sink estates, skates, gipsies, benefit claimants, pikeys, etc, ad infinitum. I’m sure I’ve missed quite a few. . Whoever would have thought humble cyclist could become the new hate figure of Echo posters?

john210 wrote:
Me again
This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh.
I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra.
Briliant

john210 wrote:
Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

Ned Seagoon wrote:
It would appear from the article that the management of the Lamb are only interested in having people who travel in air-conditioned vehicles as patrons. That might rule out bus passengers, as one could work-up a sweat walking from the bus stop. This leaves the management of pubs such as the Lamb with a dilemma as to how to vet its customers. An 18-stone maître d' with highly trained olfactory skills might prove to be “a must” for all country pubs in the not too distant future, just to make sure that smelly riff-raff such as cyclists and walkers are kept clear of the more refined clientele. Those fresh smelling individuals with cars who insist on the right to pollute any environment they may wish to visit.

freefinker wrote:

john210 wrote:
Me again
This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh.
I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra.
Briliant

.. oh, that's only a small selection of their prejudices.

john210 wrote:
Me again.
I think you are missing the point. We did not smell after a very cold bike ride. If we had been smelly, and I have been very smelly on many occasions, we might have understood a bit more but this seems to be about the Lamb's prejudice rather than BO.

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

john210 wrote:
Me again
This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh.
I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra.
Briliant

.. oh, that's only a small selection of their prejudices.

Yes don't forget disabled people who use cars, and want to go to the toilet, or have their incontinence pads changed whilst out shopping!

As for all the daft comments on here... heaven forbid as Freethinker says that any of them make an intelligent post. It beggars belief that these bitter little people are bouncing up and down on their computer keyboards spewing prejudice out with every word although I'm not sure all of them are serious comments.

Thank you John for putting the record straight. If I didn't like someone's BO I'd move frankly, it's not as if you were causing a bar brawl is it lol... never mind I'm sure another pub will be glad of the custom in these tough times!

Walter K wrote:
I'm sure these blue-rinsers had a certain twang before they set off....

john210 wrote:
Me again Sadly, I think this is coming to an end as we are no longer main news - we've been bumped down to 4th. Never mind - I'll look for something else to keep your prejudices all fired up - cycling three abreast through red lights will probably do the trick. I'm off for my monthly bath - speak soon. Love John

S!mon wrote:

Ned Seagoon wrote: It would appear from the article that the management of the Lamb are only interested in having people who travel in air-conditioned vehicles as patrons. That might rule out bus passengers, as one could work-up a sweat walking from the bus stop. This leaves the management of pubs such as the Lamb with a dilemma as to how to vet its customers. An 18-stone maître d' with highly trained olfactory skills might prove to be “a must” for all country pubs in the not too distant future, just to make sure that smelly riff-raff such as cyclists and walkers are kept clear of the more refined clientele. Those fresh smelling individuals with cars who insist on the right to pollute any environment they may wish to visit.

"It would appear from the article that the management of the Lamb are only interested in having people who travel in air-conditioned vehicles as patrons." Eh? Steady on mate, how does it "appear" so?

john210 wrote:
As one of the cyclists concerned and to redress the balance: I did speak to the only two customers in our part of the bar who were sitting right next to us - two ladies - they were as nonplussed as us and confirmed we did not smell. I did not see any other customers. It was only 16C outside - we came in to warm up! I understand Romsey Ramblers were also asked to leave on a previous occasion. The mysterious Zara Mason? - I never saw her from first to last - was she even there - if she was there she used her restaurant manager to make the comments to us -very brave - I asked him who the owner was and he did not volunteer her! It took us over 10 minutes to receive our orders - they were quite happy to take our money before asking us to leave. Perhaps the Lamb just wants a certain type of customer

Shoong wrote:

freemantlegirl2 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

john210 wrote:
Me again
This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh.
I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra.
Briliant

.. oh, that's only a small selection of their prejudices.

Yes don't forget disabled people who use cars, and want to go to the toilet, or have their incontinence pads changed whilst out shopping!

As for all the daft comments on here... heaven forbid as Freethinker says that any of them make an intelligent post. It beggars belief that these bitter little people are bouncing up and down on their computer keyboards spewing prejudice out with every word although I'm not sure all of them are serious comments.

Thank you John for putting the record straight. If I didn't like someone's BO I'd move frankly, it's not as if you were causing a bar brawl is it lol... never mind I'm sure another pub will be glad of the custom in these tough times!

Ah, so if I don't like sitting/standing next to someone who stinks, it's ME who has to move!

Another silly, ditzy post from yourself.

john210 wrote:
Me again
Sadly, I think this is coming to an end as we are no longer main news - we've been bumped down to 4th.
Never mind - I'll look for something else to keep your prejudices all fired up - cycling three abreast through red lights will probably do the trick.
I'm off for my monthly bath - speak soon.
Love
John

arthur boutfaith wrote:
it's a rumoured statistical fact that 1 in 4 people are gay.

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
No surprise here - everyone knows that The Lamb is just another of those so-called gastro "pubs" that arnn't interested in customers who just want to drink - they want you people who are going to spend/waste money on their over-priced fancy food. No £5 ploughman's, bacon butties or jacket spuds here! No that's typical bar food. Still, at that price maybe you've got to expect to have to put up with stinky drinkers next to you.

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
No surprise here - everyone knows that The Lamb is just another of those so-called gastro "pubs" that arnn't interested in customers who just want to drink - they want you people who are going to spend/waste money on their over-priced fancy food. No £5 ploughman's, bacon butties or jacket spuds here! No that's typical bar food. Still, at that price maybe you've got to expect to have to put up with stinky drinkers next to you.

Obviously - I take your tongue-in-cheek attitude as a slight tilt towards wit. It is with extreme sadness that I have to inform you that you that you have failed miserably.

Anyone who has visited the Lamb, as I have regularly, know that all the food is good value for money and they do do jacket spuds and ploughmans at a reasonable price. They're also not a Gastro-pub just do very good pub food.

The pub often has groups of cyclists in and they seem to be very welcome. i have never seen another group of cycle riders turned away. Sweat is one thing - old sweat is another!

The management and staff have always cared for me as a customer and if they had asked a group of very smelly people to sit outside while I was trying to enjoy a meal, I would applaud them. In whatever pub I were in, this type of action would impress me. The Management have been put in a very difficult position and have dealt with the situation in the best way possible.

I think it is petty and laudable that these cyclists have had the audacity to take this to the press without first making a complaint to the management of the business. They state that they thought the pub would be glad to have their business. I imagine they would - if they didn't put off thirty or forty other customers who wanted to eat.

So cyclists would you approve if I was a drugged up hippie who smelt of cannabis, my hair hasn't been washed for oooh some time and I've just returned from Glastonbury festival covered in God knows what....do you mind if I take a seat next to YOU while you're eating?

clausentum wrote:

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
No surprise here - everyone knows that The Lamb is just another of those so-called gastro "pubs" that arnn't interested in customers who just want to drink - they want you people who are going to spend/waste money on their over-priced fancy food. No £5 ploughman's, bacon butties or jacket spuds here! No that's typical bar food. Still, at that price maybe you've got to expect to have to put up with stinky drinkers next to you.

Obviously - I take your tongue-in-cheek attitude as a slight tilt towards wit. It is with extreme sadness that I have to inform you that you that you have failed miserably.

Anyone who has visited the Lamb, as I have regularly, know that all the food is good value for money and they do do jacket spuds and ploughmans at a reasonable price. They're also not a Gastro-pub just do very good pub food.

The pub often has groups of cyclists in and they seem to be very welcome. i have never seen another group of cycle riders turned away. Sweat is one thing - old sweat is another!

The management and staff have always cared for me as a customer and if they had asked a group of very smelly people to sit outside while I was trying to enjoy a meal, I would applaud them. In whatever pub I were in, this type of action would impress me. The Management have been put in a very difficult position and have dealt with the situation in the best way possible.

I think it is petty and laudable that these cyclists have had the audacity to take this to the press without first making a complaint to the management of the business. They state that they thought the pub would be glad to have their business. I imagine they would - if they didn't put off thirty or forty other customers who wanted to eat.

So cyclists would you approve if I was a drugged up hippie who smelt of cannabis, my hair hasn't been washed for oooh some time and I've just returned from Glastonbury festival covered in God knows what....do you mind if I take a seat next to YOU while you're eating?

Are you the publican, perchance? :-)

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

clausentum wrote:

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
No surprise here - everyone knows that The Lamb is just another of those so-called gastro "pubs" that arnn't interested in customers who just want to drink - they want you people who are going to spend/waste money on their over-priced fancy food. No £5 ploughman's, bacon butties or jacket spuds here! No that's typical bar food. Still, at that price maybe you've got to expect to have to put up with stinky drinkers next to you.

Obviously - I take your tongue-in-cheek attitude as a slight tilt towards wit. It is with extreme sadness that I have to inform you that you that you have failed miserably.

Anyone who has visited the Lamb, as I have regularly, know that all the food is good value for money and they do do jacket spuds and ploughmans at a reasonable price. They're also not a Gastro-pub just do very good pub food.

The pub often has groups of cyclists in and they seem to be very welcome. i have never seen another group of cycle riders turned away. Sweat is one thing - old sweat is another!

The management and staff have always cared for me as a customer and if they had asked a group of very smelly people to sit outside while I was trying to enjoy a meal, I would applaud them. In whatever pub I were in, this type of action would impress me. The Management have been put in a very difficult position and have dealt with the situation in the best way possible.

I think it is petty and laudable that these cyclists have had the audacity to take this to the press without first making a complaint to the management of the business. They state that they thought the pub would be glad to have their business. I imagine they would - if they didn't put off thirty or forty other customers who wanted to eat.

So cyclists would you approve if I was a drugged up hippie who smelt of cannabis, my hair hasn't been washed for oooh some time and I've just returned from Glastonbury festival covered in God knows what....do you mind if I take a seat next to YOU while you're eating?

Are you the publican, perchance? :-)

Nope just a regular and local who would like to see fair play and justice done to a good local pub. As said before very hard times for pubs and some idiots venting their spleen in the press without first trying to resolve the matter (when they're obviously on the wrong foot) smacks to me of a holier than you attitude.

I don't know what these people wanted to achieve by taking this action?

Did they want to show up the pub by stating that they don't accept smelly people?

Or did they want to point out how much the Lamb cares for it's other non-smelly customers?

Or did they have a valid point?

Or were they so embarrassed by their own personal hygiene that they didn't make a direct complaint and went to the media?

You decide!

clausentum wrote:

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

clausentum wrote:

Sweet Tea Crutch wrote:

Major Sir Jerry Pending wrote:
No surprise here - everyone knows that The Lamb is just another of those so-called gastro "pubs" that arnn't interested in customers who just want to drink - they want you people who are going to spend/waste money on their over-priced fancy food. No £5 ploughman's, bacon butties or jacket spuds here! No that's typical bar food. Still, at that price maybe you've got to expect to have to put up with stinky drinkers next to you.

Obviously - I take your tongue-in-cheek attitude as a slight tilt towards wit. It is with extreme sadness that I have to inform you that you that you have failed miserably.

Anyone who has visited the Lamb, as I have regularly, know that all the food is good value for money and they do do jacket spuds and ploughmans at a reasonable price. They're also not a Gastro-pub just do very good pub food.

The pub often has groups of cyclists in and they seem to be very welcome. i have never seen another group of cycle riders turned away. Sweat is one thing - old sweat is another!

The management and staff have always cared for me as a customer and if they had asked a group of very smelly people to sit outside while I was trying to enjoy a meal, I would applaud them. In whatever pub I were in, this type of action would impress me. The Management have been put in a very difficult position and have dealt with the situation in the best way possible.

I think it is petty and laudable that these cyclists have had the audacity to take this to the press without first making a complaint to the management of the business. They state that they thought the pub would be glad to have their business. I imagine they would - if they didn't put off thirty or forty other customers who wanted to eat.

So cyclists would you approve if I was a drugged up hippie who smelt of cannabis, my hair hasn't been washed for oooh some time and I've just returned from Glastonbury festival covered in God knows what....do you mind if I take a seat next to YOU while you're eating?

Are you the publican, perchance? :-)

Nope just a regular and local who would like to see fair play and justice done to a good local pub. As said before very hard times for pubs and some idiots venting their spleen in the press without first trying to resolve the matter (when they're obviously on the wrong foot) smacks to me of a holier than you attitude.

I don't know what these people wanted to achieve by taking this action?

Did they want to show up the pub by stating that they don't accept smelly people?

Or did they want to point out how much the Lamb cares for it's other non-smelly customers?

Or did they have a valid point?

Or were they so embarrassed by their own personal hygiene that they didn't make a direct complaint and went to the media?

You decide!

So you are not the publican. Well, I guess that's okay then.

I've decided.

The smelly cyclists lose.

The pub and it's locals win.

john210 wrote:
As one of the cyclists concerned and to redress the balance:
I did speak to the only two customers in our part of the bar who were sitting right next to us - two ladies - they were as nonplussed as us and confirmed we did not smell. I did not see any other customers.
It was only 16C outside - we came in to warm up!
I understand Romsey Ramblers were also asked to leave on a previous occasion.
The mysterious Zara Mason? - I never saw her from first to last - was she even there - if she was there she used her restaurant manager to make the comments to us -very brave - I asked him who the owner was and he did not volunteer her!
It took us over 10 minutes to receive our orders - they were quite happy to take our money before asking us to leave.
Perhaps the Lamb just wants a certain type of customer

john210 wrote:
Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

devans wrote:
I am pleased to hear the food at the Lamb at Winkton is now acceptable, either the Chef or the management has changed in the last couple of years.The last time we ate at this pub the food was inedible. In fairness to the pub, the manager rang us at home the following morning, giving various excuses whilst offering us a free meal if we went back. We didn't take up the offer, neither have we been back to this pub.

Stubs wrote:
They should be more considerate and these cyclists should have taken a wash before entering the pub. Its called respect. How would they feel if they went out for dinner and sat next door to a sweaty smelly person.

Clubman93 wrote:

john210 wrote: Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

(charliesmummy) Just look at your name that just shows how sane you really are! First of all I was there and they were asked to move outside, so the lamb wasn't taking their money!! The lamb does great pub food and have really reasonable prices. So John you were Cross and thought it would be a laugh to contact the echo i think you are a complete ****! Just because you stink you think its alright to try and ruin the business. They did not take your money and then tell you to get out, they just asked for you to sit outside. Those 2 ladies agreed that you smelt after you were gone, you think they would really tell you after confonting them. The echo is also in the wrong for making a such a big deal out of it! Front page just because of some old stinky cyclists! GET OVER IT OAP'S!!!

downfader wrote:

Clubman93 wrote:

john210 wrote: Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

(charliesmummy) Just look at your name that just shows how sane you really are! First of all I was there and they were asked to move outside, so the lamb wasn't taking their money!! The lamb does great pub food and have really reasonable prices. So John you were Cross and thought it would be a laugh to contact the echo i think you are a complete ****! Just because you stink you think its alright to try and ruin the business. They did not take your money and then tell you to get out, they just asked for you to sit outside. Those 2 ladies agreed that you smelt after you were gone, you think they would really tell you after confonting them. The echo is also in the wrong for making a such a big deal out of it! Front page just because of some old stinky cyclists! GET OVER IT OAP'S!!!

You know.. to an outsider this looks like the manager coming on here, creating accounts on the echo site and trying a little damage limitation. . Were they refunded their money? . Lets not forget there were more than two of them, I'm sure in all logical though processes even you can concede that its debatable they'd all lie about the smell to make a business look bad. . I take it the business has CCTV to back up its claims? Perhaps it would like to forward this to the echo?

Clubman93 wrote:

downfader wrote:

Clubman93 wrote:

john210 wrote: Me again This is wonderful - we contacted the Echo because we were cross but also for a laugh. I didn't think for one moment we would provoke such prejudices out there - from the anti cyclists (loads of you haha), anti locals-bums, anti blue rinsers, antis masons/Masons (I'll vote for you), anti anti smokers, anti lycra. Briliant

(charliesmummy) Just look at your name that just shows how sane you really are! First of all I was there and they were asked to move outside, so the lamb wasn't taking their money!! The lamb does great pub food and have really reasonable prices. So John you were Cross and thought it would be a laugh to contact the echo i think you are a complete ****! Just because you stink you think its alright to try and ruin the business. They did not take your money and then tell you to get out, they just asked for you to sit outside. Those 2 ladies agreed that you smelt after you were gone, you think they would really tell you after confonting them. The echo is also in the wrong for making a such a big deal out of it! Front page just because of some old stinky cyclists! GET OVER IT OAP'S!!!

You know.. to an outsider this looks like the manager coming on here, creating accounts on the echo site and trying a little damage limitation. . Were they refunded their money? . Lets not forget there were more than two of them, I'm sure in all logical though processes even you can concede that its debatable they'd all lie about the smell to make a business look bad. . I take it the business has CCTV to back up its claims? Perhaps it would like to forward this to the echo?

Well im not the manager as i obviously would be working there now, i go to the lamb freqantly and i am backing them all the way. Tell me this, Would you like to sit next to smelly cyclists while waiting and then eating your food??? That what an outsider should asks themselves. Why would the pud throw the cyclists out in this credit crunch! they were asked to move outside. Im sure they do have CCTV but what would this claim?? That there was 13 of them and that there were two old ladies next too them waiting to eat, and then the manager asking them if they could sit out side pleasently. Because i can tell you thats all it would show. As i was there watching in happen.

wilson castaway wrote:
mothers with buggies ....cyclists...what next??motorists....s orry you smell like a magic tree please leave the establishment.