Southampton family fighting eviction from friend's council house

Wayne Brett with Danielle Hart, childen one-year-old Thomas Hart and three-month-old Lola Brett and dog Hunter.

Wayne Brett with Danielle Hart, childen one-year-old Thomas Hart and three-month-old Lola Brett and dog Hunter.

First published in Southampton Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

“WE will not be moved.”

Those are the defiant words of a Southampton family of five who have barricaded themselves inside a friend’s council house to evade eviction back to their own “tiny” flat by council bosses.

Wayne Brett, Danielle Hart and their three children packed their bags and left their allocated council accommodation, a one-bedroom flat in Redbridge, because they said it was too small and mouldy.

The family, including Louise, 12, Thomas, one, and Lola, three months, say they were so cramped they had to share a bedroom in the Kendal Avenue property. Delivery driver Wayne and full-time mum Danielle were forced to sleep on the floor.

Wayne said he moved into the flat with his partner Danielle two years ago when they were just a family of four.

Since then the couple have had one more child.

But the family’s lifestyle turned around when they took advantage of friend Gary Hall’s move to Stoke, by taking over his threebedroom council house.

They say the house is spacious, mould-free and has transformed their lives.

But now they face eviction from the spacious home in Tintern Grove, Shirley, because they did not get permission from Southampton City Council.

Wayne, who has barricaded his family inside and has refused to leave the home, said: “Our flat was just too small, and this new one has really helped the children have space to breathe. We do not want to move anywhere, and I can’t afford to go anywhere.”

However council bosses issued a stark warning, saying they do not condone unauthorised occupation of their houses and said the family must move out or they will be evicted.

They said there is a greater need for other people on the council house waiting list to have the three-bedroom home.

A Southampton City Council spokesman said: “Whilst the council recognises the difficulties of families waiting sometimes long periods for council and housing association homes, we cannot condone unauthorised occupation.

“There are many households in similar situations of need who are waiting to be offered a social housing tenancy who will be disadvantaged by these actions.”

The spokesman added that unless the family return to their house they could be left homeless.

He said: “The family has been asked to return to their home and if in due course they don’t, we will have no choice but to ask the courts to evict them.”

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6:50am Sun 20 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

This case makes me angry. What kind of parents have a third child knowing all they have to offer in terms of accommodation is a mouldy one bedroom flat ?

Any decent parent would work their financial situation out, find decent accommodation and then think about extending family. To bring more kids into that circumstance is almost abusive.

The council is right the accommodation must be allocated in accordance with greatest need.
This case makes me angry. What kind of parents have a third child knowing all they have to offer in terms of accommodation is a mouldy one bedroom flat ? Any decent parent would work their financial situation out, find decent accommodation and then think about extending family. To bring more kids into that circumstance is almost abusive. The council is right the accommodation must be allocated in accordance with greatest need. SotonGreen
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7:24am Sun 20 Jan 13

sofa_king_right says...

SotonGreen wrote:
This case makes me angry. What kind of parents have a third child knowing all they have to offer in terms of accommodation is a mouldy one bedroom flat ?

Any decent parent would work their financial situation out, find decent accommodation and then think about extending family. To bring more kids into that circumstance is almost abusive.

The council is right the accommodation must be allocated in accordance with greatest need.
Yeah.
They don't own that house, get out.
Some folk save up and plan for a family, if you just have one without thinking how to provide for them why should you jump to the top of the queue?
You should get what you pay for.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: This case makes me angry. What kind of parents have a third child knowing all they have to offer in terms of accommodation is a mouldy one bedroom flat ? Any decent parent would work their financial situation out, find decent accommodation and then think about extending family. To bring more kids into that circumstance is almost abusive. The council is right the accommodation must be allocated in accordance with greatest need.[/p][/quote]Yeah. They don't own that house, get out. Some folk save up and plan for a family, if you just have one without thinking how to provide for them why should you jump to the top of the queue? You should get what you pay for. sofa_king_right
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7:30am Sun 20 Jan 13

Forest Resident says...

As SotoGreen said, this is a situation all of their own making, they chose to have another child therefore they must be forced to be responsible enough to provide adequately themselves. Trying to circumnavigate the process for their own selfish ends only evidences their childish, selfish ways and contempt for those of us that pay for their social welfare yet never see a penny in return. The sooner parenting licenses become a reality the better for everyone, irresponsible and incompetent parenting like this feckless pair deserves only condemnation.
As SotoGreen said, this is a situation all of their own making, they chose to have another child therefore they must be forced to be responsible enough to provide adequately themselves. Trying to circumnavigate the process for their own selfish ends only evidences their childish, selfish ways and contempt for those of us that pay for their social welfare yet never see a penny in return. The sooner parenting licenses become a reality the better for everyone, irresponsible and incompetent parenting like this feckless pair deserves only condemnation. Forest Resident
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7:44am Sun 20 Jan 13

likewatchingbrazil says...

i feel sorry for the poor bloke who had to move to stoke
i feel sorry for the poor bloke who had to move to stoke likewatchingbrazil
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7:49am Sun 20 Jan 13

dogbruce says...

Have another child to get a larger property ,Should of waited till you were allocated another place ,
Theres a 3 bedroom flat in weston available or is it your rights to take over a friends house and jump the queue ,should of thought of contraception dears
Have another child to get a larger property ,Should of waited till you were allocated another place , Theres a 3 bedroom flat in weston available or is it your rights to take over a friends house and jump the queue ,should of thought of contraception dears dogbruce
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7:54am Sun 20 Jan 13

-stiv- says...

Ideal time to get yourself a new puppy, when you've got a newborn and when you don't know where you're going to end up living.

I feel sorry for their kids. They never had any choice, being born with idiots for parents. The cycle continues.
Ideal time to get yourself a new puppy, when you've got a newborn and when you don't know where you're going to end up living. I feel sorry for their kids. They never had any choice, being born with idiots for parents. The cycle continues. -stiv-
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8:05am Sun 20 Jan 13

10 Minute Man says...

If you accept social housing as a mechanism for providing accommodation for people who cannot afford it in the private sector, then you need to abide by the rules and judgements of the people who run it.

If instead you want to go for a "grab what you can" approach and ignore that other peoples needs are greater, then you should step out of the social housing system and look after yourself. Can't have it both ways.

What has happened to the 1 bed flat? Has it been empty and unused all this time ? Or are they sub-letting it ?

Frequent reason for mouldiness=people drying washing on radiators etc in every room of the house and not ventilating it.

I'm sure the new puppy will like the one bed flat.
If you accept social housing as a mechanism for providing accommodation for people who cannot afford it in the private sector, then you need to abide by the rules and judgements of the people who run it. If instead you want to go for a "grab what you can" approach and ignore that other peoples needs are greater, then you should step out of the social housing system and look after yourself. Can't have it both ways. What has happened to the 1 bed flat? Has it been empty and unused all this time ? Or are they sub-letting it ? Frequent reason for mouldiness=people drying washing on radiators etc in every room of the house and not ventilating it. I'm sure the new puppy will like the one bed flat. 10 Minute Man
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8:44am Sun 20 Jan 13

loosehead says...

Under the Homebid scheme operated by the council this whole story is a lot of rubbish.
they with four kids would have had so many points they in reality should have been able to bid for a bigger property .
but it sounds like they wanted this one so to hell with the bidding rules.
they could have done a transfer with their friend & then he could have quit the one bedroomed house & it would have been all above board.
but why start a family with no where to live? get an emergency home then have another kid when you know you haven't got the room?
then on top of that try to make out your hard done by?
the housing department are not in the wrong on this & your not the innocent victims just another case of I want I'll take attitude
Under the Homebid scheme operated by the council this whole story is a lot of rubbish. they with four kids would have had so many points they in reality should have been able to bid for a bigger property . but it sounds like they wanted this one so to hell with the bidding rules. they could have done a transfer with their friend & then he could have quit the one bedroomed house & it would have been all above board. but why start a family with no where to live? get an emergency home then have another kid when you know you haven't got the room? then on top of that try to make out your hard done by? the housing department are not in the wrong on this & your not the innocent victims just another case of I want I'll take attitude loosehead
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8:50am Sun 20 Jan 13

News Fanatic says...

Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure.
Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure. News Fanatic
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8:55am Sun 20 Jan 13

sofa_king_right says...

News Fanatic wrote:
Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure.
you're sofa king right
[quote][p][bold]News Fanatic[/bold] wrote: Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure.[/p][/quote]you're sofa king right sofa_king_right
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8:59am Sun 20 Jan 13

Kanderson says...

A little confused why would the council knowingly put a family of 4 in a one bedroom flat. They wouldn't.....if they offered this family this one bedroom they had a right to refuse anyway. So this family knowingly took a one bedroom flat that they would have viewed and seen before accepting and signing tenancy agreement. Something really isn't right

I myself have been in the housing system for 5 years waiting for a 3 bedroom and still have at least another 3 to wait. The housing situation is disgusting in so many ways but I have to wait just like everyone else. I have 3 children 2 boys aged 12/7 and a girl aged 4. 1 is disabled and all share a room

Not only are you saying you deserve it you are also putting your friend in a nasty position as he could be prosecuted for subletting.
A little confused why would the council knowingly put a family of 4 in a one bedroom flat. They wouldn't.....if they offered this family this one bedroom they had a right to refuse anyway. So this family knowingly took a one bedroom flat that they would have viewed and seen before accepting and signing tenancy agreement. Something really isn't right I myself have been in the housing system for 5 years waiting for a 3 bedroom and still have at least another 3 to wait. The housing situation is disgusting in so many ways but I have to wait just like everyone else. I have 3 children 2 boys aged 12/7 and a girl aged 4. 1 is disabled and all share a room Not only are you saying you deserve it you are also putting your friend in a nasty position as he could be prosecuted for subletting. Kanderson
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9:47am Sun 20 Jan 13

Harold K Steptoe says...

Scum like this make me puke. Are they going to squat in someones five bedroom house when it breeds again. If they want a big house and garden for the dog then BUY one.
Scum like this make me puke. Are they going to squat in someones five bedroom house when it breeds again. If they want a big house and garden for the dog then BUY one. Harold K Steptoe
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10:08am Sun 20 Jan 13

freemantle101 says...

Kanderson wrote:
A little confused why would the council knowingly put a family of 4 in a one bedroom flat. They wouldn't.....if they offered this family this one bedroom they had a right to refuse anyway. So this family knowingly took a one bedroom flat that they would have viewed and seen before accepting and signing tenancy agreement. Something really isn't right

I myself have been in the housing system for 5 years waiting for a 3 bedroom and still have at least another 3 to wait. The housing situation is disgusting in so many ways but I have to wait just like everyone else. I have 3 children 2 boys aged 12/7 and a girl aged 4. 1 is disabled and all share a room

Not only are you saying you deserve it you are also putting your friend in a nasty position as he could be prosecuted for subletting.
I wouldn't say the housing situation is disgusting - the council get a roof over people's heads surely that is the point?!? Makes me so angry that people on council moan about their accommodation - seriously the rest of us have to work our arses off to pay for where we live and have to think about our accommodation before expanding our family!!

Is family deserved to be pushed back to he flat they signed for!
[quote][p][bold]Kanderson[/bold] wrote: A little confused why would the council knowingly put a family of 4 in a one bedroom flat. They wouldn't.....if they offered this family this one bedroom they had a right to refuse anyway. So this family knowingly took a one bedroom flat that they would have viewed and seen before accepting and signing tenancy agreement. Something really isn't right I myself have been in the housing system for 5 years waiting for a 3 bedroom and still have at least another 3 to wait. The housing situation is disgusting in so many ways but I have to wait just like everyone else. I have 3 children 2 boys aged 12/7 and a girl aged 4. 1 is disabled and all share a room Not only are you saying you deserve it you are also putting your friend in a nasty position as he could be prosecuted for subletting.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say the housing situation is disgusting - the council get a roof over people's heads surely that is the point?!? Makes me so angry that people on council moan about their accommodation - seriously the rest of us have to work our arses off to pay for where we live and have to think about our accommodation before expanding our family!! Is family deserved to be pushed back to he flat they signed for! freemantle101
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10:14am Sun 20 Jan 13

THEKILLER says...

Show perfectly what is wrong with the housing/ benefit system!!
Have lots of kids to get more money, bigger house. Anyone doing the right thing working, getting married will have no chance of getting housing that some of these people think is their right ( I want, I demand, you have to give me)
Anyone having more than 2 kids should not get benefits
Show perfectly what is wrong with the housing/ benefit system!! Have lots of kids to get more money, bigger house. Anyone doing the right thing working, getting married will have no chance of getting housing that some of these people think is their right ( I want, I demand, you have to give me) Anyone having more than 2 kids should not get benefits THEKILLER
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10:17am Sun 20 Jan 13

BerryMan says...

The state should only pay and provide for two kids. Any more than that should be the parents responsibility.
Maybe then we wouldn't have all of those baby making factories in free homes draining our countries finances. They certainly take more than they give back to society.
The state should only pay and provide for two kids. Any more than that should be the parents responsibility. Maybe then we wouldn't have all of those baby making factories in free homes draining our countries finances. They certainly take more than they give back to society. BerryMan
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10:29am Sun 20 Jan 13

Mr Cynical says...

Declared to the echo that moved in with her two years ago...what date did she declare to the housing benefit office?
Declared to the echo that moved in with her two years ago...what date did she declare to the housing benefit office? Mr Cynical
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10:30am Sun 20 Jan 13

oldboy67 says...

take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are
take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are oldboy67
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10:51am Sun 20 Jan 13

sotonman2012 says...

Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses sotonman2012
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10:53am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou
everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou mrwayne
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11:00am Sun 20 Jan 13

solomum says...

oldboy67 wrote:
take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are
This couple have been irresponsible and should not be entitled to stay in this property as they clearly have abused the housing system. As a country, we need to ensure that anyone who chooses to extend their family, takes a large portion of responsibilty to ensure they have the means to provide them with the essentials in life, (home, clothes, food and love) but to say the parents are the kind of people who should be sat with a dog on a blanket in the high street is abusive and also an insult to genuine homeless people who have not abused the system. This family needs to be housed in a non mouldy property as part of general human rights, but also need to have agencies in place to assist them with their situation and educate them on improving it through their own means as much as they can. What this country needs to now work on is educating people from the outset that if they have children, they will not be given things for free, or be classed as higher priority. It is sad that so many people feel they have rights to things without taking responsibility. We are not a 3rd world country and as such, need to educate our population to take responsibility from the outset. House this family in a safe, non mouldy property and then they take place in the housing queue the same as anyone else.
[quote][p][bold]oldboy67[/bold] wrote: take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are[/p][/quote]This couple have been irresponsible and should not be entitled to stay in this property as they clearly have abused the housing system. As a country, we need to ensure that anyone who chooses to extend their family, takes a large portion of responsibilty to ensure they have the means to provide them with the essentials in life, (home, clothes, food and love) but to say the parents are the kind of people who should be sat with a dog on a blanket in the high street is abusive and also an insult to genuine homeless people who have not abused the system. This family needs to be housed in a non mouldy property as part of general human rights, but also need to have agencies in place to assist them with their situation and educate them on improving it through their own means as much as they can. What this country needs to now work on is educating people from the outset that if they have children, they will not be given things for free, or be classed as higher priority. It is sad that so many people feel they have rights to things without taking responsibility. We are not a 3rd world country and as such, need to educate our population to take responsibility from the outset. House this family in a safe, non mouldy property and then they take place in the housing queue the same as anyone else. solomum
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11:01am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
we have e en asked to go to a two bed property anywhere so it won't affect my work but been told no as we are only entitled to bigger..all we want is help and somewhere the kids will be happy..reason we ended up with 1bedrooms flat is due to Daniel and Thomas living there and a split from partner left me without anywhere.my daughter came to live with us as her and her mother were not getting on so we did not put yourself like this..
[quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]we have e en asked to go to a two bed property anywhere so it won't affect my work but been told no as we are only entitled to bigger..all we want is help and somewhere the kids will be happy..reason we ended up with 1bedrooms flat is due to Daniel and Thomas living there and a split from partner left me without anywhere.my daughter came to live with us as her and her mother were not getting on so we did not put yourself like this.. mrwayne
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11:06am Sun 20 Jan 13

southy says...

sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom.

The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.
[quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom. The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council. southy
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11:10am Sun 20 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

Ok you portray yourself as a man just trying to provide for his family. How then do justify having three kids you clearly are unable to provide for ?

I see a lot of responsibility being ducked and placed upon the council when clearly it is your basic responsibility as a parent to provide for your offspring.
Ok you portray yourself as a man just trying to provide for his family. How then do justify having three kids you clearly are unable to provide for ? I see a lot of responsibility being ducked and placed upon the council when clearly it is your basic responsibility as a parent to provide for your offspring. SotonGreen
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11:10am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

solomum wrote:
oldboy67 wrote:
take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are
This couple have been irresponsible and should not be entitled to stay in this property as they clearly have abused the housing system. As a country, we need to ensure that anyone who chooses to extend their family, takes a large portion of responsibilty to ensure they have the means to provide them with the essentials in life, (home, clothes, food and love) but to say the parents are the kind of people who should be sat with a dog on a blanket in the high street is abusive and also an insult to genuine homeless people who have not abused the system. This family needs to be housed in a non mouldy property as part of general human rights, but also need to have agencies in place to assist them with their situation and educate them on improving it through their own means as much as they can. What this country needs to now work on is educating people from the outset that if they have children, they will not be given things for free, or be classed as higher priority. It is sad that so many people feel they have rights to things without taking responsibility. We are not a 3rd world country and as such, need to educate our population to take responsibility from the outset. House this family in a safe, non mouldy property and then they take place in the housing queue the same as anyone else.
we are not asking to stay in this property..we are trying to make our situation known anxious get the help we have been asking for for a year..having baby does not come into it as all children are provided for and loved..we were told we would not be flat year ago and yet still no help..
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldboy67[/bold] wrote: take the kids into care its a fact that the parents dont have the iq to lookafter them, let them sit with the dog on a blanket in the high street, cause thats the kind of people they are[/p][/quote]This couple have been irresponsible and should not be entitled to stay in this property as they clearly have abused the housing system. As a country, we need to ensure that anyone who chooses to extend their family, takes a large portion of responsibilty to ensure they have the means to provide them with the essentials in life, (home, clothes, food and love) but to say the parents are the kind of people who should be sat with a dog on a blanket in the high street is abusive and also an insult to genuine homeless people who have not abused the system. This family needs to be housed in a non mouldy property as part of general human rights, but also need to have agencies in place to assist them with their situation and educate them on improving it through their own means as much as they can. What this country needs to now work on is educating people from the outset that if they have children, they will not be given things for free, or be classed as higher priority. It is sad that so many people feel they have rights to things without taking responsibility. We are not a 3rd world country and as such, need to educate our population to take responsibility from the outset. House this family in a safe, non mouldy property and then they take place in the housing queue the same as anyone else.[/p][/quote]we are not asking to stay in this property..we are trying to make our situation known anxious get the help we have been asking for for a year..having baby does not come into it as all children are provided for and loved..we were told we would not be flat year ago and yet still no help.. mrwayne
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11:18am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Ok you portray yourself as a man just trying to provide for his family. How then do justify having three kids you clearly are unable to provide for ?

I see a lot of responsibility being ducked and placed upon the council when clearly it is your basic responsibility as a parent to provide for your offspring.
the don't want for anything and to be placed somewhere more livable for them like we were told last year is human rights.i have triedprivate sector btw my work is started to be affected due to i work nights and am sleeping on front room floor hence why we asked for 2 bed so i can at least sleep and get deposit for private so yes we are doing all we can to try sort this.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Ok you portray yourself as a man just trying to provide for his family. How then do justify having three kids you clearly are unable to provide for ? I see a lot of responsibility being ducked and placed upon the council when clearly it is your basic responsibility as a parent to provide for your offspring.[/p][/quote]the don't want for anything and to be placed somewhere more livable for them like we were told last year is human rights.i have triedprivate sector btw my work is started to be affected due to i work nights and am sleeping on front room floor hence why we asked for 2 bed so i can at least sleep and get deposit for private so yes we are doing all we can to try sort this. mrwayne
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11:25am Sun 20 Jan 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom.

The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.
The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom. The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.[/p][/quote]The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you. Torchie1
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11:26am Sun 20 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

I actually wish you and your family well. You need to grow up though and realise that part of your role as a father is to earn enough money to provide a roof over your children's head. It isn't my job as a taxpayer to subsidise you.

I work hard to pay the £800 my landlord charges for my 2 bed house in the private sector. I don't earn enough to support kids so have taken the decision not to have any yet.

As others have said I feel sorry for your kids mostly. As you say it is not an appropriate situation to be raising them in.
I actually wish you and your family well. You need to grow up though and realise that part of your role as a father is to earn enough money to provide a roof over your children's head. It isn't my job as a taxpayer to subsidise you. I work hard to pay the £800 my landlord charges for my 2 bed house in the private sector. I don't earn enough to support kids so have taken the decision not to have any yet. As others have said I feel sorry for your kids mostly. As you say it is not an appropriate situation to be raising them in. SotonGreen
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11:38am Sun 20 Jan 13

D.a.v.e says...

mrwayne wrote:
everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou
So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it?
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou[/p][/quote]So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it? D.a.v.e
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11:39am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

SotonGreen wrote:
I actually wish you and your family well. You need to grow up though and realise that part of your role as a father is to earn enough money to provide a roof over your children's head. It isn't my job as a taxpayer to subsidise you.

I work hard to pay the £800 my landlord charges for my 2 bed house in the private sector. I don't earn enough to support kids so have taken the decision not to have any yet.

As others have said I feel sorry for your kids mostly. As you say it is not an appropriate situation to be raising them in.
when we went to council long time ago about this they said we would out soon..im trying to double my hours at work to go private at the moment..thankyou for looking at it from both sides..if i could go private tomorrow i would..i don't ask for handouts like i said i work hard so we'll see where it goes.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I actually wish you and your family well. You need to grow up though and realise that part of your role as a father is to earn enough money to provide a roof over your children's head. It isn't my job as a taxpayer to subsidise you. I work hard to pay the £800 my landlord charges for my 2 bed house in the private sector. I don't earn enough to support kids so have taken the decision not to have any yet. As others have said I feel sorry for your kids mostly. As you say it is not an appropriate situation to be raising them in.[/p][/quote]when we went to council long time ago about this they said we would out soon..im trying to double my hours at work to go private at the moment..thankyou for looking at it from both sides..if i could go private tomorrow i would..i don't ask for handouts like i said i work hard so we'll see where it goes. mrwayne
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11:41am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

D.a.v.e wrote:
mrwayne wrote:
everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou
So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it?
i have it put aside council won't take it at mo because house not in our name..like i said we not spending just trying to pay our way.
[quote][p][bold]D.a.v.e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou[/p][/quote]So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it?[/p][/quote]i have it put aside council won't take it at mo because house not in our name..like i said we not spending just trying to pay our way. mrwayne
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11:44am Sun 20 Jan 13

Forest Resident says...

'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).
'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence). Forest Resident
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11:48am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

Forest Resident wrote:
'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).
until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught
er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..
[quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: 'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).[/p][/quote]until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can.. mrwayne
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11:48am Sun 20 Jan 13

dogbruce says...

Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!,
No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big
Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!, No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big dogbruce
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11:55am Sun 20 Jan 13

D.a.v.e says...

mrwayne wrote:
D.a.v.e wrote:
mrwayne wrote:
everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou
So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it?
i have it put aside council won't take it at mo because house not in our name..like i said we not spending just trying to pay our way.
So you are putting the rent aside for a house you are not even entitled to. You have no right to squat in a house whether invited or not and hold the owner/ landlord to ransom.
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]D.a.v.e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou[/p][/quote]So who is paying the rent on the house you are staying in? Is it your friend or is he claiming housing benefit for it?[/p][/quote]i have it put aside council won't take it at mo because house not in our name..like i said we not spending just trying to pay our way.[/p][/quote]So you are putting the rent aside for a house you are not even entitled to. You have no right to squat in a house whether invited or not and hold the owner/ landlord to ransom. D.a.v.e
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11:56am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

dogbruce wrote:
Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!,
No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big
id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou
[quote][p][bold]dogbruce[/bold] wrote: Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!, No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big[/p][/quote]id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou mrwayne
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11:56am Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

dogbruce wrote:
Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!,
No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big
id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou
[quote][p][bold]dogbruce[/bold] wrote: Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!, No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big[/p][/quote]id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou mrwayne
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11:58am Sun 20 Jan 13

LeeB1900 says...

mrwayne wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).
until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught

er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..
wayne - you only have yourself to blame so dont moan when all the comments written are actually spot on. YOU chose to have a 3rd child & YOU made all the other choices which have led you to being in this state. You breached the Councils Tenancy agreement and then expect them to place you in a nice comfy home just because you dont know how to cover that breeding tool you have. If you dont like your flat then BUY a frggin house like the rest of us have had to so we can look after our families. I pay 740 a month mortgage - this to house my children and look after them properly. Why should you do the same??? Id also say Social Services should be called as those children are not being well looked after in those conditions - maybe take the kids away and leave you the space you need! Serious welfare issues for the children just because YOU didnt get your finances correct to start with. THINK about things b4 you have kids - can you afford them - can you house them - can you look after them Or no.. do the normal thing - have a herd of kids then expect the tax payer and local government to wipe your backside because YOU are so **** careless. If it was my choice Id have any parent lacking the responsibility like you have to go for the chop so no more uncared for kids are delivered. All this is down to YOUR poor parenting and my view.. COUNCIL BOSSES KICK THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM BUY THEIR OWN PLACE! Dont come on here and expect sympathy as its very clear what everyone thinks!
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: 'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).[/p][/quote]until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..[/p][/quote]wayne - you only have yourself to blame so dont moan when all the comments written are actually spot on. YOU chose to have a 3rd child & YOU made all the other choices which have led you to being in this state. You breached the Councils Tenancy agreement and then expect them to place you in a nice comfy home just because you dont know how to cover that breeding tool you have. If you dont like your flat then BUY a frggin house like the rest of us have had to so we can look after our families. I pay 740 a month mortgage - this to house my children and look after them properly. Why should you do the same??? Id also say Social Services should be called as those children are not being well looked after in those conditions - maybe take the kids away and leave you the space you need! Serious welfare issues for the children just because YOU didnt get your finances correct to start with. THINK about things b4 you have kids - can you afford them - can you house them - can you look after them Or no.. do the normal thing - have a herd of kids then expect the tax payer and local government to wipe your backside because YOU are so **** careless. If it was my choice Id have any parent lacking the responsibility like you have to go for the chop so no more uncared for kids are delivered. All this is down to YOUR poor parenting and my view.. COUNCIL BOSSES KICK THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM BUY THEIR OWN PLACE! Dont come on here and expect sympathy as its very clear what everyone thinks! LeeB1900
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11:59am Sun 20 Jan 13

Forest Resident says...

mrwayne wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).
until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught

er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..
Be careful when you talk about judging others, what makes you think I or any other contributor here have not previously been in a similar situation ourselves? You just have to work your own way out of it rather than relying on others. Besides, if you choose to illegally squat at the taxpayers expense, bleat to the press about it, and add further comment on an open forum, then you can be damned sure you'll receive deserved condemnation for your selfish ill conceived actions.
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: 'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).[/p][/quote]until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..[/p][/quote]Be careful when you talk about judging others, what makes you think I or any other contributor here have not previously been in a similar situation ourselves? You just have to work your own way out of it rather than relying on others. Besides, if you choose to illegally squat at the taxpayers expense, bleat to the press about it, and add further comment on an open forum, then you can be damned sure you'll receive deserved condemnation for your selfish ill conceived actions. Forest Resident
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12:02pm Sun 20 Jan 13

LeeB1900 says...

everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have.

BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY!
everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have. BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY! LeeB1900
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12:04pm Sun 20 Jan 13

LeeB1900 says...

-stiv- wrote:
Ideal time to get yourself a new puppy, when you've got a newborn and when you don't know where you're going to end up living.

I feel sorry for their kids. They never had any choice, being born with idiots for parents. The cycle continues.
well said - and because they have a dog or two - they will insist on a nice garden with running area and space for the dog. Kick them out of the flat they are in and let them see the complete errors of their ways!
[quote][p][bold]-stiv-[/bold] wrote: Ideal time to get yourself a new puppy, when you've got a newborn and when you don't know where you're going to end up living. I feel sorry for their kids. They never had any choice, being born with idiots for parents. The cycle continues.[/p][/quote]well said - and because they have a dog or two - they will insist on a nice garden with running area and space for the dog. Kick them out of the flat they are in and let them see the complete errors of their ways! LeeB1900
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12:05pm Sun 20 Jan 13

LeeB1900 says...

News Fanatic wrote:
Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure.
well said - and because they have a dog or two - they will insist on a nice garden with running area and space for the dog. Kick them out of the flat they are in and let them see the complete errors of their ways!
[quote][p][bold]News Fanatic[/bold] wrote: Helping themselves to get better accommodation is obviously not a top priority, otherwise they would not waste money on a dog or he have a tacky tattoo. The council is right to evict them.These people think they can do as they please and everyone else will pay for their pleasure.[/p][/quote]well said - and because they have a dog or two - they will insist on a nice garden with running area and space for the dog. Kick them out of the flat they are in and let them see the complete errors of their ways! LeeB1900
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12:07pm Sun 20 Jan 13

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom.

The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.
The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.
You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold.
You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life.
Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong.
As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom. The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.[/p][/quote]The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.[/p][/quote]You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold. You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life. Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong. As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased. southy
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12:10pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Maine Lobster says...

mrwayne wrote:
everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou
There are lots of people waiting patiently on the housing lists, bidding for properties and not breaking the rules by occupying a house vacated by their friends. Trying to play the victim in this is just not going to get sympathy from all the families who you have jumped over because of your selfishness.
Go back to your flat and wait your turn like everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: everyone is entitled to there own views on this but they have only got half the story..i don't claim handouts i work nights which is hard when you have to sleep on floor of a front room.we were told we would be out of the flat last xmas.the mould is due to having so much stuff in the bedrooms ie wardrobe and beds for so many people but have no more room to put them..we tried to exchange but told we couldn't due to Mr hall having 2 children and 2 children were to many to have in 1bed flat.we have done nothing but ask council for help even mp has wrote to them as he seen how we were living..i have a 12year old girl who has to get dressed/sleep next to a 1 year old boy and that's not right.we have asked council for help no less than 50 times over last few years.going private is hard when you have a family and alto of outgoing but have even tried that route..people are quick to judge with only half a story..we have told council we will leave tomorrow if they can offer us some help..anyone who wants full story start to finish can have it then judge for themselves..its easy to write bad things when your not in same position..thankyou[/p][/quote]There are lots of people waiting patiently on the housing lists, bidding for properties and not breaking the rules by occupying a house vacated by their friends. Trying to play the victim in this is just not going to get sympathy from all the families who you have jumped over because of your selfishness. Go back to your flat and wait your turn like everyone else. Maine Lobster
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12:17pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Dresnez says...

sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
In Jersey where I come from, those in States housing (council) have to move to a smaller place when their adult children leave home.

A small island 7miles by 9miles cannot house everyone and family homes are reserved for families. They have one bed flats for little old ladies on their own.

The rules are known and accepted. Why is it different here?

Clearly the family need a larger home. They look like a local family. Maybe they were told there were no houses and because their friend moved out they knew different. They have presumably jumped the queue. Desperate measures clearly highlight there is a problem.

In their defence they shouldn't be waiting this long when some people are occupying houses that are too large for them.

Suggest the council get their act together and move these elderly people out of family homes and put them in the one bedroom flats.

If you are in social housing you have to be housed according to need not choice. If you want to keep a 3 bedroomed house they you must buy it.

Shame the council don't use their initiative. Easier to leave them where they are, and move those who no longer require family homes.
Their flat could go to a single person and free up another family home so no one has lost out.
[quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]In Jersey where I come from, those in States housing (council) have to move to a smaller place when their adult children leave home. A small island 7miles by 9miles cannot house everyone and family homes are reserved for families. They have one bed flats for little old ladies on their own. The rules are known and accepted. Why is it different here? Clearly the family need a larger home. They look like a local family. Maybe they were told there were no houses and because their friend moved out they knew different. They have presumably jumped the queue. Desperate measures clearly highlight there is a problem. In their defence they shouldn't be waiting this long when some people are occupying houses that are too large for them. Suggest the council get their act together and move these elderly people out of family homes and put them in the one bedroom flats. If you are in social housing you have to be housed according to need not choice. If you want to keep a 3 bedroomed house they you must buy it. Shame the council don't use their initiative. Easier to leave them where they are, and move those who no longer require family homes. Their flat could go to a single person and free up another family home so no one has lost out. Dresnez
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12:20pm Sun 20 Jan 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom.

The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.
The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.
You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold.
You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life.
Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong.
As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased.
.. oh yes, you did increase your vote.

Up from 212 to 220 - a whole 8 votes more. Electorate 10,416.

That's popularity for you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom. The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.[/p][/quote]The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.[/p][/quote]You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold. You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life. Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong. As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased.[/p][/quote].. oh yes, you did increase your vote. Up from 212 to 220 - a whole 8 votes more. Electorate 10,416. That's popularity for you. freefinker
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12:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13

MGRA says...

what makes laugh is that they are sponging off the state for somewhere to live yet can afford a dog !? People should get their priorities right. roof over yourhead first, non-essentials after...
what makes laugh is that they are sponging off the state for somewhere to live yet can afford a dog !? People should get their priorities right. roof over yourhead first, non-essentials after... MGRA
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12:28pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Inform Al says...

mrwayne wrote:
dogbruce wrote:
Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!,
No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big
id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou
So sorry you have had to put up with the cr4p posted on this site by the bigoted cretinous Tories of Southampton. Fact is you will make C'morons rich party donors happy by giving up work and renting private housing at the nations expense. Of course the cretins on this site will moan about that too.
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dogbruce[/bold] wrote: Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!, No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big[/p][/quote]id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou[/p][/quote]So sorry you have had to put up with the cr4p posted on this site by the bigoted cretinous Tories of Southampton. Fact is you will make C'morons rich party donors happy by giving up work and renting private housing at the nations expense. Of course the cretins on this site will moan about that too. Inform Al
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12:33pm Sun 20 Jan 13

lubaru1980 says...

I cannot stand this new culture that is developing of, 'Oh we want a bigger house, so lets have more kids'! It really does annoy the hell out of me, I have 2 children, 1 4yrs, 1 1yrs old, I work full time, min 11hrs a day, my wife can only work 2 days a week. It is a struggle but I/we manage to pay £700 rent a month so our kids are properly housed not whining and expecting the state to come to our rescue! I think people should have to go on a point scoring system before being allowed to have children so that the kids will be properly supported by the parents rather than used as a housing upgrade tool................
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I cannot stand this new culture that is developing of, 'Oh we want a bigger house, so lets have more kids'! It really does annoy the hell out of me, I have 2 children, 1 4yrs, 1 1yrs old, I work full time, min 11hrs a day, my wife can only work 2 days a week. It is a struggle but I/we manage to pay £700 rent a month so our kids are properly housed not whining and expecting the state to come to our rescue! I think people should have to go on a point scoring system before being allowed to have children so that the kids will be properly supported by the parents rather than used as a housing upgrade tool................ . lubaru1980
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12:42pm Sun 20 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Inform Al wrote:
mrwayne wrote:
dogbruce wrote:
Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!,
No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big
id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou
So sorry you have had to put up with the cr4p posted on this site by the bigoted cretinous Tories of Southampton. Fact is you will make C'morons rich party donors happy by giving up work and renting private housing at the nations expense. Of course the cretins on this site will moan about that too.
I am not a Tory , nor a bigot. I just pointed out how come they can afford a dog. Vets bills, food, etc etc cost a bomb if you are looking after dog properly. Also its clear how the housing system works, and you can not just choose a house free of charge and set up home there.... also havign 3 kids when you can not house them properly is just plain stupidity. So of course I feel for the kids, but the adults here are dumb beyond reason , no offence..... ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dogbruce[/bold] wrote: Go to the echo why to try get sympathy when all you've done is make yourself viable for abusive comments here and no doubt your neighbours wont be happy with you!!, No sympathy i have a 3 bedroom house private rented your welcome to it only costs £750 a month im moving to due to being to big[/p][/quote]id take your 3 bed private house in a flash..if you can get hold of me off here ill contact you..that's sort of help i been asking for but alto places want 1800 deposit..i can't afford that raising a family..thankyou[/p][/quote]So sorry you have had to put up with the cr4p posted on this site by the bigoted cretinous Tories of Southampton. Fact is you will make C'morons rich party donors happy by giving up work and renting private housing at the nations expense. Of course the cretins on this site will moan about that too.[/p][/quote]I am not a Tory , nor a bigot. I just pointed out how come they can afford a dog. Vets bills, food, etc etc cost a bomb if you are looking after dog properly. Also its clear how the housing system works, and you can not just choose a house free of charge and set up home there.... also havign 3 kids when you can not house them properly is just plain stupidity. So of course I feel for the kids, but the adults here are dumb beyond reason , no offence..... ;0) MGRA
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12:46pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Dresnez says...

LeeB1900 wrote:
everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have.

BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY!
Oh for heaven's sake society is made up of all types. What a nasty judgemental type you are.

Anger management might be of benefit to you. Save your blood pressure.

Oh and I do own my house and don't get benefits.
[quote][p][bold]LeeB1900[/bold] wrote: everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have. BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY![/p][/quote]Oh for heaven's sake society is made up of all types. What a nasty judgemental type you are. Anger management might be of benefit to you. Save your blood pressure. Oh and I do own my house and don't get benefits. Dresnez
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12:53pm Sun 20 Jan 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
sotonman2012 wrote:
Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses
Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom.

The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.
The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.
You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold.
You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life.
Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong.
As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased.
.. oh yes, you did increase your vote.

Up from 212 to 220 - a whole 8 votes more. Electorate 10,416.

That's popularity for you.
Where only about 30% voted only around 3,000 voted, 8 more votes is a lot of voted to be added for a new political party, by rights i should not be as high in votes as i am, the norm would be around the 120 mark for a new party in the second year.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sotonman2012[/bold] wrote: Although they shouldn't have had any more kids knowing full well they don't have the right accomadation there are plenty of old people on millbrook esate living on there own in four bedroom houses[/p][/quote]Theres not that many 4 bedroom houses on the Millbrook housing estate, most are 3 bedroom. The problem is that there as been very few new council houses built, what been called new council homes have been housing association homes which is the private sector. The council needs to stop selling land off to the private sector for housing association homes and start building there own homes, if the private sector wants to build homes let them buy land off the open market and not of the council.[/p][/quote]The only comment you make is wrapped in an excuse to complain about the private sector when you freely admit to buying a council house on the same estate when your 'successful business' that allowed you to 'retire early' could have let you buy on the open market. While you continue to occupy a house that was built to shelter a family in genuine need, your credentials as a socialist are totally worthless. Perhaps this is why no-one votes for you.[/p][/quote]You just don't have a clue do you Torchie, this house was bought at a time before Thatcher stop councils from building council homes (it was bought before Thatcher was PM), and at the time this house cost as much as it would if you bought a all ready private house on the open market, also at that time councils was allowed to build homes to replace homes that was sold. You just hate people making them selfs comforable, and being a Socialist and doing what was done in my family you hate happening because it proves Socialism works better and it don't walk all over other people and put them down just to make a little bit of success in life. Cases like these proves that the system is all wrong. As for no one voting for me I will remind you, 1 time 32 votes short of over taking the Lib/dems and came 4th out of 5, 2nd time over took the Lib/dems with an increase in votes came 3rd out of 4 taking just over 6% of the votes, it was only the Labour party and my self for the TUSC that increase there votes all other decreased.[/p][/quote].. oh yes, you did increase your vote. Up from 212 to 220 - a whole 8 votes more. Electorate 10,416. That's popularity for you.[/p][/quote]Where only about 30% voted only around 3,000 voted, 8 more votes is a lot of voted to be added for a new political party, by rights i should not be as high in votes as i am, the norm would be around the 120 mark for a new party in the second year. southy
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12:59pm Sun 20 Jan 13

southy says...

LeeB1900 wrote:
everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have.

BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY!
No council homes was not just for those in desperate needs, council homes was to get people into homes and get started in building a home and not having to live on the streets and have a chance to buy the home that they was living in.
[quote][p][bold]LeeB1900[/bold] wrote: everyone look at their facebook profiles - SHOCKING! They have used the echo to highlight a large % of the complete lack of intelligence families have. BUY YOUR OWN HOUSE TO HOUSE YOUR OWN KIDS - COUNCIL HOUSING WAS ONLY EVER MEANT TO BE FOR THOSE IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HOME - NOT THOSE WHO CANT COVER THEIR D1CK! GOD IM SOOOO ANGRY OVER THIS STORY![/p][/quote]No council homes was not just for those in desperate needs, council homes was to get people into homes and get started in building a home and not having to live on the streets and have a chance to buy the home that they was living in. southy
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1:00pm Sun 20 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

Southy the blunt fact of the matter is you are an irrelevance in terms of electoral politics we both are. There are three parties of any relevance in terms of any realistic prospect of ever winning a seat.

The rest of us smaller parties are kidding ourselves and those who vote for us to pretend otherwise. We have a role as pressure groups and to keep big three honest but that is about it.
Southy the blunt fact of the matter is you are an irrelevance in terms of electoral politics we both are. There are three parties of any relevance in terms of any realistic prospect of ever winning a seat. The rest of us smaller parties are kidding ourselves and those who vote for us to pretend otherwise. We have a role as pressure groups and to keep big three honest but that is about it. SotonGreen
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1:03pm Sun 20 Jan 13

ohec says...

They clearly haven't got the sense to realise that by forcing the council into a corner the only course of action available to the council is eviction, also alienating the council will do them no good whatsoever.
The council have a duty to all of those on the housing list to ensure that housing is allocated in the correct manner. Personally as a result of their actions i would bar them from any council property and remove them from the housing list, give them 4 weeks notice to find private accommodation and if they fail take the children into care and leave the couple to fend for themselves. This might seem hard but the council have to make it quite clear they will not tolerate this sort of behaviour otherwise everybody will be at it, but lets be quite clear increasing the size of your family to acquire better housing has been going on for years and it has worked, its only now that there is such a shortage of housing that it is failing.
They clearly haven't got the sense to realise that by forcing the council into a corner the only course of action available to the council is eviction, also alienating the council will do them no good whatsoever. The council have a duty to all of those on the housing list to ensure that housing is allocated in the correct manner. Personally as a result of their actions i would bar them from any council property and remove them from the housing list, give them 4 weeks notice to find private accommodation and if they fail take the children into care and leave the couple to fend for themselves. This might seem hard but the council have to make it quite clear they will not tolerate this sort of behaviour otherwise everybody will be at it, but lets be quite clear increasing the size of your family to acquire better housing has been going on for years and it has worked, its only now that there is such a shortage of housing that it is failing. ohec
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1:11pm Sun 20 Jan 13

Dresnez says...

mrwayne wrote:
Forest Resident wrote:
'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).
until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught

er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..
Forest Resident, is this the needy depriving the needy?


I am afraid the poor will always be with us. Why do you see them as the undeserving poor. He is not unemployed but states that he works nights.

I bet in your privileged little world you have never worked nights.

How it becomes exhausting and damages your health. My daughter is a paramedic, if she can't sleep she gets horrendous migraines.

I have done nights my self, so I know the worry of being unable to get to sleep knowing you are back on duty that night and fearing you will be too tired to do your job.

I suspect you have been brainwashed by the Daily Fail rag and the Torygraph news paper.
[quote][p][bold]mrwayne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Resident[/bold] wrote: 'mrwayne', you truly are a pathetic excuse for a human being. "It's human rights" and "still no help" just shows the level of reliance you have upon the state (the taxpayer) to provide for you, man up, grow a pair, and stand on your own two feet like most other working parents who are struggling in this difficult financial climate. Nothing is out if reach if you and your family WORK hard enough to achieve it, just stop relying on others to provide for you where you have clearly failed. Furthermore, take some responsibility for yourself, stop illegally denying another needy family the home you are effectively squatting in (which is now a criminal offence).[/p][/quote]until you are i. out situation don't judge others..if it was a sister/friend/daught er of yours and you actually saw how we live you may think different..if you read back you'll see im trying go private and do what i can..[/p][/quote]Forest Resident, is this the needy depriving the needy? I am afraid the poor will always be with us. Why do you see them as the undeserving poor. He is not unemployed but states that he works nights. I bet in your privileged little world you have never worked nights. How it becomes exhausting and damages your health. My daughter is a paramedic, if she can't sleep she gets horrendous migraines. I have done nights my self, so I know the worry of being unable to get to sleep knowing you are back on duty that night and fearing you will be too tired to do your job. I suspect you have been brainwashed by the Daily Fail rag and the Torygraph news paper. Dresnez
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1:20pm Sun 20 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

If we are entertaining cheap stereotypes then you dresnez are a guardian reading, lentil munching, sandal wearing, tree hugging, meddling liberal dogooder.

You are right there will always be poor people. The fact you are poor doesn't mean you are excused responsibility for your cations though. Nor does it mean other people on modest incomes should be forced to pay for your lifestyle choices.
If we are entertaining cheap stereotypes then you dresnez are a guardian reading, lentil munching, sandal wearing, tree hugging, meddling liberal dogooder. You are right there will always be poor people. The fact you are poor doesn't mean you are excused responsibility for your cations though. Nor does it mean other people on modest incomes should be forced to pay for your lifestyle choices. SotonGreen
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1:23pm Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

i do work nights and yes i do struggle to sleep as i have to do it on floor..im not having kids to get bigger property as otherwise i wouldn't be asking for a two bed till i get deposit together for a private place.if i was sponging then id be fighting to keep this help but as i stated ill leave anytime all important asking is for a little help..
i do work nights and yes i do struggle to sleep as i have to do it on floor..im not having kids to get bigger property as otherwise i wouldn't be asking for a two bed till i get deposit together for a private place.if i was sponging then id be fighting to keep this help but as i stated ill leave anytime all important asking is for a little help.. mrwayne
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1:28pm Sun 20 Jan 13

southy says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Southy the blunt fact of the matter is you are an irrelevance in terms of electoral politics we both are. There are three parties of any relevance in terms of any realistic prospect of ever winning a seat.

The rest of us smaller parties are kidding ourselves and those who vote for us to pretend otherwise. We have a role as pressure groups and to keep big three honest but that is about it.
normally that is true soton, how long did it take the greens to get a ward in brighton and that slow build up to control the council. And look what happen in greece the true left party was last place for years and years and now are 2nd party and a real contender to take the next general election by storm.
and look in my ward i am slowly moving up the scale will not be to long in years before this ward will be 2nd choice.
The TUSC is only small at the moment because they can only stand in 15% of any election so we don't get the press mediage coverage like all other partys that pass the required 20% that the media requires to get equal press coverage, being a pressure group is away to get coverage where you would not normally get any.
Things do not chance over night like they say rome was not built in a day.
But we are the newest and making very big inroads of the likes that have not been seen since the begining days of the Labour Party over 100 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Southy the blunt fact of the matter is you are an irrelevance in terms of electoral politics we both are. There are three parties of any relevance in terms of any realistic prospect of ever winning a seat. The rest of us smaller parties are kidding ourselves and those who vote for us to pretend otherwise. We have a role as pressure groups and to keep big three honest but that is about it.[/p][/quote]normally that is true soton, how long did it take the greens to get a ward in brighton and that slow build up to control the council. And look what happen in greece the true left party was last place for years and years and now are 2nd party and a real contender to take the next general election by storm. and look in my ward i am slowly moving up the scale will not be to long in years before this ward will be 2nd choice. The TUSC is only small at the moment because they can only stand in 15% of any election so we don't get the press mediage coverage like all other partys that pass the required 20% that the media requires to get equal press coverage, being a pressure group is away to get coverage where you would not normally get any. Things do not chance over night like they say rome was not built in a day. But we are the newest and making very big inroads of the likes that have not been seen since the begining days of the Labour Party over 100 years ago. southy
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1:31pm Sun 20 Jan 13

princesspeach says...

If your saying youll leave anytime why arnt you leaving now when you are asked too and wait your turn for a 2 bed property like everyone else who is in a similiar situation! And why can you not sleep in your 12 year old daughters bed during the day when she is at school?
If your saying youll leave anytime why arnt you leaving now when you are asked too and wait your turn for a 2 bed property like everyone else who is in a similiar situation! And why can you not sleep in your 12 year old daughters bed during the day when she is at school? princesspeach
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1:32pm Sun 20 Jan 13

jojo83 says...

I didn't want to get involved but people need to know the truth. I am his ex partner and the mother to 4 of his 5 children. Wayne and Danielle have been together for just over 1 year and he moved in to her 1 bedroom flat with her 1 yr old son. My oldest moved in with him not long after but came back here beginning of October as she didn't want to live with them anymore, but after a phone call she received from Wayne saying that she couldn't see her newborn sister unless she moved back with him. I would like to state the reason the council haven't offered him bigger accommodation is because he has rent arrears with scc. Myself and my new partner were paying these off until I found out he would gain a property even though he didn't pay a penny himself. He left me with over 5k worth of debt to which myself and partner are paying off. He doesn't pay a penny toward the 3 children I have here and he thinks its funny. This is the mentality of the man and he has no shame!!
I didn't want to get involved but people need to know the truth. I am his ex partner and the mother to 4 of his 5 children. Wayne and Danielle have been together for just over 1 year and he moved in to her 1 bedroom flat with her 1 yr old son. My oldest moved in with him not long after but came back here beginning of October as she didn't want to live with them anymore, but after a phone call she received from Wayne saying that she couldn't see her newborn sister unless she moved back with him. I would like to state the reason the council haven't offered him bigger accommodation is because he has rent arrears with scc. Myself and my new partner were paying these off until I found out he would gain a property even though he didn't pay a penny himself. He left me with over 5k worth of debt to which myself and partner are paying off. He doesn't pay a penny toward the 3 children I have here and he thinks its funny. This is the mentality of the man and he has no shame!! jojo83
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1:33pm Sun 20 Jan 13

massimoosti says...

Whats wrong with Britain in words and pictures.


They need to understand the world doesnt owe you anything.
Whats wrong with Britain in words and pictures. They need to understand the world doesnt owe you anything. massimoosti
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1:39pm Sun 20 Jan 13

massimoosti says...

hes got 5 kids ?...................
..no doubt claiming top up benefits.


I pull my plums off working day and night hard graff over seven days a week to pay my mortage and support my family with one child (as we decided we couldnt afford more) to read about white trash **** chav lowlife like this whom my taxes are supporting !!!!


Jeremy Kyle fodder..............
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I
hes got 5 kids ?................... ..no doubt claiming top up benefits. I pull my plums off working day and night hard graff over seven days a week to pay my mortage and support my family with one child (as we decided we couldnt afford more) to read about white trash **** chav lowlife like this whom my taxes are supporting !!!! Jeremy Kyle fodder.............. . I massimoosti
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1:44pm Sun 20 Jan 13

THEKILLER says...

jojo83 wrote:
I didn't want to get involved but people need to know the truth. I am his ex partner and the mother to 4 of his 5 children. Wayne and Danielle have been together for just over 1 year and he moved in to her 1 bedroom flat with her 1 yr old son. My oldest moved in with him not long after but came back here beginning of October as she didn't want to live with them anymore, but after a phone call she received from Wayne saying that she couldn't see her newborn sister unless she moved back with him. I would like to state the reason the council haven't offered him bigger accommodation is because he has rent arrears with scc. Myself and my new partner were paying these off until I found out he would gain a property even though he didn't pay a penny himself. He left me with over 5k worth of debt to which myself and partner are paying off. He doesn't pay a penny toward the 3 children I have here and he thinks its funny. This is the mentality of the man and he has no shame!!
So perhaps there is more to this story ??? Maybe the truth is coming out .
and Wayne is not the wonderful father he would have everyone believe!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]jojo83[/bold] wrote: I didn't want to get involved but people need to know the truth. I am his ex partner and the mother to 4 of his 5 children. Wayne and Danielle have been together for just over 1 year and he moved in to her 1 bedroom flat with her 1 yr old son. My oldest moved in with him not long after but came back here beginning of October as she didn't want to live with them anymore, but after a phone call she received from Wayne saying that she couldn't see her newborn sister unless she moved back with him. I would like to state the reason the council haven't offered him bigger accommodation is because he has rent arrears with scc. Myself and my new partner were paying these off until I found out he would gain a property even though he didn't pay a penny himself. He left me with over 5k worth of debt to which myself and partner are paying off. He doesn't pay a penny toward the 3 children I have here and he thinks its funny. This is the mentality of the man and he has no shame!![/p][/quote]So perhaps there is more to this story ??? Maybe the truth is coming out . and Wayne is not the wonderful father he would have everyone believe!!!!! THEKILLER
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1:49pm Sun 20 Jan 13

jojo83 says...

Yes he has 4 with me. But only 3 live here as my oldest lives with him. He then has 1 with Danielle and Danielle has 1. He pays nothing towards the children here and me and my partner both work so they have and want everything they need and are brought up with good morals and values and are able to see the way the real world works by paying bills and working hard to get what you want.
Yes he has 4 with me. But only 3 live here as my oldest lives with him. He then has 1 with Danielle and Danielle has 1. He pays nothing towards the children here and me and my partner both work so they have and want everything they need and are brought up with good morals and values and are able to see the way the real world works by paying bills and working hard to get what you want. jojo83
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1:50pm Sun 20 Jan 13

massimoosti says...

Wayne & Daniella = Wayne & Waynetta
Wayne & Daniella = Wayne & Waynetta massimoosti
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1:51pm Sun 20 Jan 13

mrwayne says...

or maybe the police have been called due to the lies and slander i have just received..important trying to get on with my life and some people don't want that to happen..what my bitter x has just said is lies.
or maybe the police have been called due to the lies and slander i have just received..important trying to get on with my life and some people don't want that to happen..what my bitter x has just said is lies. mrwayne
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1:56pm Sun 20 Jan 13

jojo83 says...

This is a forum about things that are reported in the daily echo. Like you said yourself everyone only knows half the truth so I gave them the facts!! You know the saying.... Give someone enough rope....
This is a forum about things that are reported in the daily echo. Like you said yourself everyone only knows half the truth so I gave them the facts!! You know the saying.... Give someone enough rope.... jojo83
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1:57pm Sun 20 Jan 13

princesspeach says...

So is your "bitter" ex also lying about you having 3 other children? At the end of the day you have put your children at risk from being left homeless by squatting in this house! I think it is absolutley disgusting and hope child services get involved within this case! I also hope that the police are involved as you have commited a criminal offence and deserve some sort of punishment!!
So is your "bitter" ex also lying about you having 3 other children? At the end of the day you have put your children at risk from being left homeless by squatting in this house! I think it is absolutley disgusting and hope child services get involved within this case! I also hope that the police are involved as you have commited a criminal offence and deserve some sort of punishment!! princesspeach
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1:59pm Sun 20 Jan 13

richieroo says...

massimoosti wrote:
Whats wrong with Britain in words and pictures. They need to understand the world doesnt owe you anything.
Well said!.
[quote][p][bold]massimoosti[/bold] wrote: Whats wrong with Britain in words and pictures. They need to understand the world doesnt owe you anything.[/p][/quote]Well said!. richieroo
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2:01pm Sun 20 Jan 13

bigal007 says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
If you accept social housing as a mechanism for providing accommodation for people who cannot afford it in the private sector, then you need to abide by the rules and judgements of the people who run it.

If instead you want to go for a "grab what you can" approach and ignore that other peoples needs are greater, then you should step out of the social housing system and look after yourself. Can't have it both ways.

What has happened to the 1 bed flat? Has it been empty and unused all this time ? Or are they sub-letting it ?

Frequent reason for mouldiness=people drying washing on radiators etc in every room of the house and not ventilating it.

I'm sure the new puppy will like the one bed flat.
it is very true what you are saying may be they have lot of rent problems thats why they cant move from the one bed and whos pay the rent on that place and this place are they claiming for the rent on both place under diffrent names
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: If you accept social housing as a mechanism for providing accommodation for people who cannot afford it in the private sector, then you need to abide by the rules and judgements of the people who run it. If instead you want to go for a "grab what you can" approach and ignore that other peoples needs are greater, then you should step out of the social housing system and look after yourself. Can't have it both ways. What has happened to the 1 bed flat? Has it been empty and unused all this time ? Or are they sub-letting it ? Frequent reason for mouldiness=people drying washing on radiators etc in every room of the house and not ventilating it. I'm sure the new puppy will like the one bed flat.[/p][/quote]it is very true what you are saying may be they have lot of rent problems thats why they cant move from the one bed and whos pay the rent on that place and this place are they claiming for the rent on both place under diffrent names bigal007
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