£1.4m revival of Old Northam (From Daily Echo)

How many times have we read this story in the Echo?

A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

£138k pretty small beans in the building game,wont go far.At least the developers are stopping the whole street being filled with foreign shops.

I'm all for starting new businesses and growing current businesses. This does not convince me that it will re-generate the street.
However, in this case, the cynic in me says that the developers will put a facelift on the shops but concentrate on extending the size of the attached residential accommodation for increased rental returns.............
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I'll believe it when I see it just like all these other grand plans for the city centre that never happen.

I hope this works, but the reason it didn't last time was the massive increase in antique dealers trading on e-bay. Friends in the trade tell me they have no need to pay rent on a shop when they have the internet.

Why not use the empty shops for local artisans? Make it possible for them to display their wares. Or what about use the space to run some skill share workshops that bring in and involve the community?

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
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Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

You need to get rid of all the alcys and smack heads living down there first!

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

It has the potential to be great round there. There always has been something special about the road.

I used to like going to Beatnik Emporium and the brik a brak shops.

It's one of those rare Southampton streets that you can walk down the middle of.

Subsidise a few key enterprises on the street and hope that kicks things off.

SotonLad wrote:
You need to get rid of all the alcys and smack heads living down there first!

Have no fear, I hear that they are moving them to Redbridge.

It's a good idea. As long as it doesnt mean we get some hideous piece of art it sounds like a sensible use of funds.

Yes, why not give more money to a company that was nearly struck off/dissolved last year.

Wasn't this area given a shedload of public money years ago to regenerate?
Or did all that go to the previous developer who ended up going bankrupt?

-stiv- wrote:
It has the potential to be great round there. There always has been something special about the road.

I used to like going to Beatnik Emporium and the brik a brak shops.

It's one of those rare Southampton streets that you can walk down the middle of.

Subsidise a few key enterprises on the street and hope that kicks things off.

I used to go to "The old toy shop" down there but then I went to buy something there one day and it was gone, then it became something else and now that's gone, now it's empty.

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

Ohh you didnt sign it this time ..
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.... Your IQ hasnt improved yet has it..... still the same as a mange poodle .007.
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You should stick to posting about football they give me a far greater laugh ...... especially as you have the nerve to include saints in your log in

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

Ohh you didnt sign it this time ..
.
.... Your IQ hasnt improved yet has it..... still the same as a mange poodle .007.
.
You should stick to posting about football they give me a far greater laugh ...... especially as you have the nerve to include saints in your log in

Ahhhh thats quite funny coming from you 'Moan Ranger'!! You do make me laugh - still its a change from your lefty, political sh*te and drivel on here - please keep it coming ****

andysaints007 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

Ohh you didnt sign it this time ..
.
.... Your IQ hasnt improved yet has it..... still the same as a mange poodle .007.
.
You should stick to posting about football they give me a far greater laugh ...... especially as you have the nerve to include saints in your log in

Ahhhh thats quite funny coming from you 'Moan Ranger'!! You do make me laugh - still its a change from your lefty, political sh*te and drivel on here - please keep it coming ****

I dont think it does make you laugh ......... I think it gets in your gut to think that someone really knows how stupid you are.
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You are like a few posters on here who just make derogitory comments about others and have no ideas or views of your own ....... just pathetic and childish.
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Looking back at some of your posts and news you have posted nothing but snide remarks
.
You really do need to get a life or an education

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

Ohh you didnt sign it this time ..
.
.... Your IQ hasnt improved yet has it..... still the same as a mange poodle .007.
.
You should stick to posting about football they give me a far greater laugh ...... especially as you have the nerve to include saints in your log in

Ahhhh thats quite funny coming from you 'Moan Ranger'!! You do make me laugh - still its a change from your lefty, political sh*te and drivel on here - please keep it coming ****

I dont think it does make you laugh ......... I think it gets in your gut to think that someone really knows how stupid you are.
.
You are like a few posters on here who just make derogitory comments about others and have no ideas or views of your own ....... just pathetic and childish.
.
Looking back at some of your posts and news you have posted nothing but snide remarks
.
You really do need to get a life or an education

Hmmmm the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind!

But then I'm so uneducated, stupid, pathetic and childish that it really amuses me that you spend time replying to my posts. Especially when all you ever do is whine and whinge and moan and disagree with anyone who isn't a 'lefty'or doesn't agree with your politics !!
You really are an unspeakable, filthy, feculent cuntitudinous fucktard."

But you do amuse me xxxxxxx

andysaints007 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
A developer owns it yet we the residents/taxpayers are giving the developer money to develop it? didn't think Labour would give our money away like that?
repossess the properties, compulsory purchase & sell on to a developer to do the work or issue an order on the developer to carry out said work or the council would take possession not just over tax payers money when were so short of cash or will that be another pound on our tax next year?

Labour council leaders agreed to hand the money, left over from regional regeneration funding,
.
Wrong again lh ...... NO TAXPAYERS MONEY

But when ever the Tories found money from outside sources you stated this could have gone to the council workers not say the Cultural Quarter or here's a big one the SEA City Museum?
this is a private developer not developing an area letting it go to ruin doing just enough not to get compulsory purchased being given public YES PUBLIC money which is all tax payers money to help develop his/hers portfolio how is this right?
Lone Ranger will all accommodation be let to only council tenants as in other cities? or is it just a bribe to get this developer to develop from a socialist council?

Don't waste your time on the lefty loosehead !! It's very selective when it wants to be!

Ohh you didnt sign it this time ..
.
.... Your IQ hasnt improved yet has it..... still the same as a mange poodle .007.
.
You should stick to posting about football they give me a far greater laugh ...... especially as you have the nerve to include saints in your log in

Ahhhh thats quite funny coming from you 'Moan Ranger'!! You do make me laugh - still its a change from your lefty, political sh*te and drivel on here - please keep it coming ****

I dont think it does make you laugh ......... I think it gets in your gut to think that someone really knows how stupid you are.
.
You are like a few posters on here who just make derogitory comments about others and have no ideas or views of your own ....... just pathetic and childish.
.
Looking back at some of your posts and news you have posted nothing but snide remarks
.
You really do need to get a life or an education

Hmmmm the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind!

But then I'm so uneducated, stupid, pathetic and childish that it really amuses me that you spend time replying to my posts. Especially when all you ever do is whine and whinge and moan and disagree with anyone who isn't a 'lefty'or doesn't agree with your politics !!
You really are an unspeakable, filthy, feculent cuntitudinous fucktard."

But you do amuse me xxxxxxx

....sorry my little moany friend I meant to give you more kisses than that xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

The Echo filters probably don't pick up the uneducated spellings of those words ! lol

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

The Echo filters probably don't pick up the uneducated spellings of those words ! lol

Have you noticed how when the left are losing arguments they resort to personal abuse?
yet call say Southy a moron over a ridiculous statement he's made God they all come on here defending him but usually they're attacking him?
If any one can prove I'm wrong about my point of view fine I'll admit I'm wrong but to call you those names I feel he should be reported or at least the Echo should be asked why they didn't block those words?

loosehead wrote:

andysaints007 wrote:

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

The Echo filters probably don't pick up the uneducated spellings of those words ! lol

Have you noticed how when the left are losing arguments they resort to personal abuse?
yet call say Southy a moron over a ridiculous statement he's made God they all come on here defending him but usually they're attacking him?
If any one can prove I'm wrong about my point of view fine I'll admit I'm wrong but to call you those names I feel he should be reported or at least the Echo should be asked why they didn't block those words?

You obviously dont know the history of this poster do you loosehead

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

I wonder where you have seen swear words in my posts .... Wrong again

I moved here in 2002 on the understanding it was part of a Regeneration programme. I have spent the past Ten Years campaigning for this and am absolutely over the moon. We are not all drunks and crackheads. We are mostly respectable people trying to improve our environment.
Now just forget the history and
unless you actually live in Old Northam Road - shut the **** up.

By the way - the scaffolding goes up over the Sex Shop on 23rd July! :-) Yippee x

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

I wonder where you have seen swear words in my posts .... Wrong again

cuntitudinous fucktard."
this was from your post?
please don't belittle my intelligence by saying this isn't swearing

Northam Lady wrote:
I moved here in 2002 on the understanding it was part of a Regeneration programme. I have spent the past Ten Years campaigning for this and am absolutely over the moon. We are not all drunks and crackheads. We are mostly respectable people trying to improve our environment.
Now just forget the history and
unless you actually live in Old Northam Road - shut the **** up.

By the way - the scaffolding goes up over the Sex Shop on 23rd July! :-) Yippee x

I've seen on TV where properties like this have been compulsory purchased by the local authority & a developer is bought in.
the shops are then let after the properties have been restored.the flats are then released to the council for 5years.
the developer buys it all off the council with that one clause of renting them (flats) to council tenants for a minimum of 5 years.
this is not the case here this is my tax payers money (regeneration fund comes from tax) being given to a developer to do the work so they & they alone can make a profit from it.
this is what I object to.
We have a council that's stopping people buying homes they've lived in for years who have stated they want more council properties well here's their chance to increase their portfolio even for 5 years .
but no they just hand over our money?
this money could have built a few Family houses instead of being given to a Developer.
Also there are powers they have to enforce this work to be carried out or they can take possession of the properties so I'm sorry but is the developer a friend of Councillor Williams?
Money for the boys comes to mind?

loosehead wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:

loosehead wrote:
How come a lefty can come on here & use swear words with no real attempt to hide them & the Echo doesn't blank them?
Loe Ranger I feel your way out of order !

I wonder where you have seen swear words in my posts .... Wrong again

cuntitudinous fucktard."
this was from your post?
please don't belittle my intelligence by saying this isn't swearing

I will belittle your intellegence,
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Read again and again and look at the poster ...... IT IS NOT ME
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Post your apology when you have read and understood the post and who posted it