Church bans yoga for 'not being Christian' (From Daily Echo)

Scott_OOOSH wrote:
Ha, religion is funny!

The Wickham Man wrote:
On the surface it's no more that one lot of silly rituals criticising another set of silly rituals, but it is rank hypocrisy to see christian ministers and priests regularly attending the religious festivals of moslems and hindus in some kind of pointless show of joint faith and unity and then denigrating and denounce the old religions such as paganism and new age spritualism with some ferocity. You either support "faith" or you don't. Trying to select other faiths you "like" from those you "don't like" defeats the whole "faith" purpose and turns christians into narrow minded intolerant hypocrites. (then again those of us above all that primitive superstitious nonsense know that anyway).

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
And that is why other religious groups hate Christians and Catholics.

The Wickham Man wrote:
On the surface it's no more that one lot of silly rituals criticising another set of silly rituals, but it is rank hypocrisy to see christian ministers and priests regularly attending the religious festivals of moslems and hindus in some kind of pointless show of joint faith and unity and then denigrating and denounce the old religions such as paganism and new age spritualism with some ferocity. You either support "faith" or you don't. Trying to select other faiths you "like" from those you "don't like" defeats the whole "faith" purpose and turns christians into narrow minded intolerant hypocrites. (then again those of us above all that primitive superstitious nonsense know that anyway).

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

Scott_OOOSH wrote:
Ha, religion is funny!

To be honest I think the best religions people could go for are Buddhism and Hinduism because as far as I can tell, they're the only ones that haven't resorted to violence to get their points across.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

Scott_OOOSH wrote:
Ha, religion is funny!

To be honest I think the best religions people could go for are Buddhism and Hinduism because as far as I can tell, they're the only ones that haven't resorted to violence to get their points across.

Shoong wrote:
It's the property of the church I assume so it's up to them. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Vix1 wrote:
It's because yoga focuses on self! As a Christian you consider yourself last and others first. I know people who have done yoga and they tell you it's all about finding your inner self and communicating with your "core". Now question why the church has banned it!!! It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!

Georgem wrote:

Shoong wrote:
It's the property of the church I assume so it's up to them. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Any excuse to bash religion.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
And that is why other religious groups hate Christians and Catholics.

Linesman wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Shoong wrote:
It's the property of the church I assume so it's up to them. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Any excuse to bash religion.

I had never considered Yoga to be a religion. If it is, who is their religious leader?

Linesman wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Shoong wrote:
It's the property of the church I assume so it's up to them. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Any excuse to bash religion.

I had never considered Yoga to be a religion. If it is, who is their religious leader?

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

The Wickham Man wrote:
On the surface it's no more that one lot of silly rituals criticising another set of silly rituals, but it is rank hypocrisy to see christian ministers and priests regularly attending the religious festivals of moslems and hindus in some kind of pointless show of joint faith and unity and then denigrating and denounce the old religions such as paganism and new age spritualism with some ferocity. You either support "faith" or you don't. Trying to select other faiths you "like" from those you "don't like" defeats the whole "faith" purpose and turns christians into narrow minded intolerant hypocrites. (then again those of us above all that primitive superstitious nonsense know that anyway).

sotonwinch09 wrote:
The church own the building so they can decide what events go ahead. Don't see why this is a story. Just book another hall.

Georgem wrote:
It's worth pointing out that The Church hasn't banned anything. This specific church, is not allowing it's own premises to be used by a particular yoga class. Nothing more.

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

Georgem wrote:

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

You're condemning Father John Chandler for his beliefs.

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

Georgem wrote:

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

You're condemning Father John Chandler for his beliefs.

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

snapperdownunder wrote:
Who needs religion? The curse of mankind.

Linesman wrote:

Georgem wrote:

Shoong wrote:
It's the property of the church I assume so it's up to them. Can't see what the fuss is about.

Any excuse to bash religion.

I had never considered Yoga to be a religion. If it is, who is their religious leader?

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

Yes that could be interesting.

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

Ginger_cyclist wrote:

Scott_OOOSH wrote:
Ha, religion is funny!

To be honest I think the best religions people could go for are Buddhism and Hinduism because as far as I can tell, they're the only ones that haven't resorted to violence to get their points across.

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Georgem wrote:

Ginger_cyclist wrote:
And that is why other religious groups hate Christians and Catholics.

Bear in mind that people use that same exact reasoning when telling you why they think ALL cyclists are scumbags. Remember that you are quick to point out that such behaviour is not necessarily representative of ALL cyclists.

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

Yes that could be interesting.

Well I would guess that you could meditate on Nam whist doing your Yoga. What would YOU say?

George4th wrote:
A good example of why religions continually cause conflict! The hypocrisy of all religions knows no bounds!

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

Yes that could be interesting.

Well I would guess that you could meditate on Nam whist doing your Yoga. What would YOU say?

Sorry for my ignorance, what is Nam?

Surely you could not be referring to Non Alligned Movement started by Nehru Tito and Nassar, which has now been hijacked by nations like Iran

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/

sikhism/sikh-dharma-

manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

bobbyboy wrote:
yawn are we in the 21st century yet or did i miss it i'm sure when i sat at Christs right hand he said to me embrace all my son regardless of origins they are all my children we are mere leaders and preachers not owners of human faiths.

Georgem wrote:

sotonwinch09 wrote: The church own the building so they can decide what events go ahead. Don't see why this is a story. Just book another hall.

Exactly. People are being manipulated by a mildly sensationalist headline, but apparently it's the Christians who are unthinking, brain-washed sheep. Go figure.

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/


sikhism/sikh-dharma-


manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Stillness wrote:

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

Yes that could be interesting.

Well I would guess that you could meditate on Nam whist doing your Yoga. What would YOU say?

Sorry for my ignorance, what is Nam?

Surely you could not be referring to Non Alligned Movement started by Nehru Tito and Nassar, which has now been hijacked by nations like Iran

Nam: Divine Substance, also translated as "God's attributed self".
Well, at least according to The Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee anyway.

Stillness wrote:
"Religion". From the Latin "to rejoin". You have to laugh don't you?
To those who have read the bible but failed to understand it and it's principles saying that focusing on your own well being is not Christian I would point out that without the well people there would not be any people to help the unwell ones. I wonder how many of these people start their prayers with something along the lines of "help me"?
Any organization, religion or otherwise will fail if they base their actions on what was (possibly) said or written thousands of years ago.
Perhaps all religions should think about Rumi's statement "The lamps are different but the light is the same"?
If anyone is wondering he was a 13th century Sufi poet but of course the church will have a fit if they find out that that makes him a Muslim lol.

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/



sikhism/sikh-dharma-



manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

No Rahit is a people first name, Reht is not look at the spelling even go up on there web site to check the spelling.

The Green thing was for Free to check up on.

Is it up to the Priest you should be asking, I would of though it was up to the church Committee/council to decide or is this priest riding shot gun over all others

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

Vix1 wrote:
It's because yoga focuses on self! As a Christian you consider yourself last and others first. I know people who have done yoga and they tell you it's all about finding your inner self and communicating with your "core". Now question why the church has banned it!!! It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!

charlotte7933 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

firstly you can not blame every priest for abuse, and if you had your facts right then you would know that it was also c of e vicars to. your reply is all to common of the ignorance in society regarding these terrible crimes. Oh and god is appalled at it which why he exposed the abusers. Not that the yoga subject has anything to do with abuse! and yes you probably would take your child to yoga ignoranse must be bliss eh. yoga is channelling into the dark side. fact!

charlotte7933 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

firstly you can not blame every priest for abuse, and if you had your facts right then you would know that it was also c of e vicars to. your reply is all to common of the ignorance in society regarding these terrible crimes. Oh and god is appalled at it which why he exposed the abusers. Not that the yoga subject has anything to do with abuse! and yes you probably would take your child to yoga ignoranse must be bliss eh. yoga is channelling into the dark side. fact!

Stillness wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

firstly you can not blame every priest for abuse, and if you had your facts right then you would know that it was also c of e vicars to. your reply is all to common of the ignorance in society regarding these terrible crimes. Oh and god is appalled at it which why he exposed the abusers. Not that the yoga subject has anything to do with abuse! and yes you probably would take your child to yoga ignoranse must be bliss eh. yoga is channelling into the dark side. fact!

Why bring Star Wars in to it? Did Darth do Yoga?
God did not expose the abusers, a priest did. Maybe exposure is another think that should be investigated along with any other dirty habits.

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/




sikhism/sikh-dharma-




manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

No Rahit is a people first name, Reht is not look at the spelling even go up on there web site to check the spelling.

The Green thing was for Free to check up on.

Is it up to the Priest you should be asking, I would of though it was up to the church Committee/council to decide or is this priest riding shot gun over all others

Lol you don't learn, do you?

MisterGrimsdale wrote:

Stillness wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

firstly you can not blame every priest for abuse, and if you had your facts right then you would know that it was also c of e vicars to. your reply is all to common of the ignorance in society regarding these terrible crimes. Oh and god is appalled at it which why he exposed the abusers. Not that the yoga subject has anything to do with abuse! and yes you probably would take your child to yoga ignoranse must be bliss eh. yoga is channelling into the dark side. fact!

Why bring Star Wars in to it? Did Darth do Yoga?
God did not expose the abusers, a priest did. Maybe exposure is another think that should be investigated along with any other dirty habits.

Darth Vader did Yoda? Disgraceful.

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/



sikhism/sikh-dharma-



manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

No Rahit is a people first name, Reht is not look at the spelling even go up on there web site to check the spelling.

The Green thing was for Free to check up on.

Is it up to the Priest you should be asking, I would of though it was up to the church Committee/council to decide or is this priest riding shot gun over all others

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/





sikhism/sikh-dharma-





manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

No Rahit is a people first name, Reht is not look at the spelling even go up on there web site to check the spelling.

The Green thing was for Free to check up on.

Is it up to the Priest you should be asking, I would of though it was up to the church Committee/council to decide or is this priest riding shot gun over all others

Lol you don't learn, do you?

Your the one not learning, Go to there personal web site I give you the link again, and take note how they spell it and there is no other way in spelling it.

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv



http://www.sgpc.net/

sikhism/sikh-dharma-

manual.html

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

^

If you can not take it from me then take it from the people who heads that type of religion.
Then do some research your self and you will find that Rahit is an Arabic name that pre-dates that Religion by 100's of years and older, where as Reht is an Hindu word.

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:

southy wrote:

freefinker wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I wonder what Rahit Maryada would say about all this.

.. lol.
Cue southy, but it will take him a while as he needs to translate the wise man’s words from Sikh to English.

Ask Rahit what he thinks, but if your on about Sikh Reht Maryada then go to there web site.
http://www.sgpc.net/






sikhism/sikh-dharma-






manual.html

I see the Greens in Brighton have done it again with there none Green Policy, not just cuts now, they want to build on heath land.


As for this matter of Yoga, what real hurm is it doing None at all.
Maybe this girl needs to find a place right next door and have big signs up saying Yoga classes, would this victor complain still i wonder.

I can't ask Rahit what he thinks, as he is not a person. We all know this! But let's not dwell on that.

Or your bizarre insertion of something about the Green Party for no reason whatsoever.

Yoga is indeed doing no harm, but if some stupid priest doesn't want it in his church hall, that's up to him I guess.

No Rahit is a people first name, Reht is not look at the spelling even go up on there web site to check the spelling.

The Green thing was for Free to check up on.

Is it up to the Priest you should be asking, I would of though it was up to the church Committee/council to decide or is this priest riding shot gun over all others

Lol you don't learn, do you?

Your the one not learning, Go to there personal web site I give you the link again, and take note how they spell it and there is no other way in spelling it.

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http://www.sgpc.net/


sikhism/sikh-dharma-


manual.html

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If you can not take it from me then take it from the people who heads that type of religion.
Then do some research your self and you will find that Rahit is an Arabic name that pre-dates that Religion by 100's of years and older, where as Reht is an Hindu word.

ZZZZZZZZZZ

Give up. You lost that one several months ago. Quite why you want to go through that all over again is beyond me.

freefinker wrote:

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

.. no, it's not a church; it's a church hall.
Do you not know the difference?

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

ac1211 wrote:

freefinker wrote:

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

.. no, it's not a church; it's a church hall.
Do you not know the difference?

To be honest i don't see what difference it makes,its the same organisation and its their right to say what goes on there,they own the property and they say what goes.

BenjiWinsor wrote:

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

hear hear!

BenjiWinsor wrote:

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

hear hear!

eurogordi wrote:
This story has just been featured on BBC South Today and it appears that the instructor, Cori Withell, booked the hall for pilates and it was only later that the church discovered the classes would combine pilates AND yoga.

Did Cori already know that the church would refuse her teaching yoga which is why she failed to disclose her true intentions when the booking was made? Could this be a very clever publicity trick on her part, especially as the classes have now been moved to a local Hindu temple?

At least Father Chandler has been honest in stating the church's opposition to yoga, whereas Ms. Withell now appears to have been less than honest by failing to reveal her true intentions!

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
It's their Church Hall and they can say and do what they want. You have had more than your fifteen mins of mock indignation. Please, now, shut up and no more stupid bits on South Today. Hilarious.

charlotte7933 wrote:

BenjiWinsor wrote:

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

hear hear!

we said

charlotte7933 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

charlotte7933 wrote:
No one is saying yoga is religous. Yoga is spiritural. Which is why the catholic church can't allow it on church premises. I totally agree with the priest. when doing yoga you are entering into meditation. As father said St Edmunds is a catholic church. Yoga's origon is from the hindu faith. Our God says in scripture that alternative therapies should be avoided theres NO alternative to god. seek god for peace and relaxation. meditate on god. The results are very rewarding. I have had teaching on this and have heard that rather than being a positive excercise it can have very negative affects. There are lots of other forms of exercise that is far safer than yoga. this would be why the priest said no when you said abiut the yoga. pilate is just as good if not better than yoga.

so how come 100s of child molestors were allowed to abuse children on catholic church premises then and then protected from prosecution ?? what does "your god" say about that ?? regards Yoga,,,, you say its unsafe ! I would rather send my children to a Yoga class than allow them to be in the sole care of a catholic priest !! Thats how "safe" yoga is, you are far less likely to get sexually abused.

firstly you can not blame every priest for abuse, and if you had your facts right then you would know that it was also c of e vicars to. your reply is all to common of the ignorance in society regarding these terrible crimes. Oh and god is appalled at it which why he exposed the abusers. Not that the yoga subject has anything to do with abuse! and yes you probably would take your child to yoga ignoranse must be bliss eh. yoga is channelling into the dark side. fact!

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

MGRA wrote:

ac1211 wrote:
Call me old fashioned but to me a church is a sacred place where people can go to seek comfort and refuge from lifes troubles whether they believe in god or not,however i can understand exactly where the church is coming from on this and i think the decision not to allow yoga classes to take place there is the right one.

It is a church after all and to me it wouldn't seem right as yoga uses meditation as well as exercises and where it may not be a religion it is still in a different mindset to the christian belief and lets face it that's why they were built in the first place for people to come together and worship.

i personally would be against everyday keep fit classes taking place in a church because it starts to undermine its importance.and by the way i have not been to church since i was a kid so im not coming from a religious standpoint.

call me old fashioned but to me a church is not a place where children should be raped by priests.

Turtlebay wrote:
The facts are, this woman booked a room for use with the Pilates course only. After booking the room it came out that she was going to be using it for other things including teaching spiritual yoga which goes against the teaching of Christianity.

No one is trying to force the non believers to believe in God, therefore likewise the practitioners of non Christian worship should find alternative premises to practice theit beliefs.

Turtlebay wrote:
The facts are, this woman booked a room for use with the Pilates course only. After booking the room it came out that she was going to be using it for other things including teaching spiritual yoga which goes against the teaching of Christianity.

No one is trying to force the non believers to believe in God, therefore likewise the practitioners of non Christian worship should find alternative premises to practice theit beliefs.

kingnotail wrote:
The catholic church, where homosexuality is one of the worst sins possible. Unless of course you are molesting young boys..

MGRA wrote:
you don't get it. I did not "once" read a story about child abuse... I have read "over 50 accounts" of child abuse. the catholic church has abused 1000s of children. they are "accounts", not "stories", Your denial of the reality is a perfect illustration of why the hundreds of catholic perverts have been hidden by the church for so long.... you think they are "stories",, which is frankly disgusting

MGRA wrote:

Turtlebay wrote:
The facts are, this woman booked a room for use with the Pilates course only. After booking the room it came out that she was going to be using it for other things including teaching spiritual yoga which goes against the teaching of Christianity.

No one is trying to force the non believers to believe in God, therefore likewise the practitioners of non Christian worship should find alternative premises to practice theit beliefs.

you are a moron who can not read. Read the article again and then comment, this time without invented garbage. Pilates takes "spirituality" as much as western contemporary yoga, you are as ignorant and the bigot priest.....

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:
you don't get it. I did not "once" read a story about child abuse... I have read "over 50 accounts" of child abuse. the catholic church has abused 1000s of children. they are "accounts", not "stories", Your denial of the reality is a perfect illustration of why the hundreds of catholic perverts have been hidden by the church for so long.... you think they are "stories",, which is frankly disgusting

Lol

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:
you don't get it. I did not "once" read a story about child abuse... I have read "over 50 accounts" of child abuse. the catholic church has abused 1000s of children. they are "accounts", not "stories", Your denial of the reality is a perfect illustration of why the hundreds of catholic perverts have been hidden by the church for so long.... you think they are "stories",, which is frankly disgusting

Lol

hilarious isn't it..... glad you find it so funny.... you probably have a hundred and one excuses for the 100s of paedophile catholic priests and no doubt can think of many reasons why their countless victims were "to blame".... keep going you are the perfect advert for why people should avoid the catholic church and its sins. Ah but for you and the rest of the brainwashed sheep, those were just "stories"....

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:
you don't get it. I did not "once" read a story about child abuse... I have read "over 50 accounts" of child abuse. the catholic church has abused 1000s of children. they are "accounts", not "stories", Your denial of the reality is a perfect illustration of why the hundreds of catholic perverts have been hidden by the church for so long.... you think they are "stories",, which is frankly disgusting

Lol

hilarious isn't it..... glad you find it so funny.... you probably have a hundred and one excuses for the 100s of paedophile catholic priests and no doubt can think of many reasons why their countless victims were "to blame".... keep going you are the perfect advert for why people should avoid the catholic church and its sins. Ah but for you and the rest of the brainwashed sheep, those were just "stories"....

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:
you don't get it. I did not "once" read a story about child abuse... I have read "over 50 accounts" of child abuse. the catholic church has abused 1000s of children. they are "accounts", not "stories", Your denial of the reality is a perfect illustration of why the hundreds of catholic perverts have been hidden by the church for so long.... you think they are "stories",, which is frankly disgusting

Lol

hilarious isn't it..... glad you find it so funny.... you probably have a hundred and one excuses for the 100s of paedophile catholic priests and no doubt can think of many reasons why their countless victims were "to blame".... keep going you are the perfect advert for why people should avoid the catholic church and its sins. Ah but for you and the rest of the brainwashed sheep, those were just "stories"....

Is MGRA a new type of super bug that effects brain tissue? The church is an organization, it is neither good nor bad, it does not have sins. It has members that have committed sins. You should be careful how many people you are painting with that big broad brush of yours.
Your outburst at Georgem shows that you have missed the point. Ironic that the original meaning of sin was "to miss the mark".

eurogordi wrote:
I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions.

None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity.

Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example.

As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!"

Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

freefinker wrote:
.. southy, I do hope you return to this story and read Paramjit at 5:56pm Wed 26 Sep 12, above. You really do need to take his advise.

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

rich the stitch wrote:

freefinker wrote:
.. southy, I do hope you return to this story and read Paramjit at 5:56pm Wed 26 Sep 12, above. You really do need to take his advise.

Funny how he's gone quiet.
I also like the fact he posted a link on here, but I'm sure he's told us all countless times that any link that anyone else puts on here is wrong or been hacked. Interesting how the hackers from all over the world have nothing better to do than change facts/ figures just to make Southy look foolish.

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaa

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaa

You automatically lose 1000 internet points by using the term "sheople". Only complete tits use that these days.

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaa

You automatically lose 1000 internet points by using the term "sheople". Only complete tits use that these days.

does not sound very christian of you George,,, using a misogynist term like that ! shame on you, one for the confessional box perheps... Anyway its easy to tie up supposed "christian" catholics in a knot with the question they can never answer without making themselves look stupid and contradicting their so called religion.... "is it ok to say 'Jesus' ! after you sneeze".... ?

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

Is there anything you don't rant about?
For God's sake calm down man, think of your blood pressure. (Not the Catholic God's sake obviously).

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaa

You automatically lose 1000 internet points by using the term "sheople". Only complete tits use that these days.

does not sound very christian of you George,,, using a misogynist term like that ! shame on you, one for the confessional box perheps... Anyway its easy to tie up supposed "christian" catholics in a knot with the question they can never answer without making themselves look stupid and contradicting their so called religion.... "is it ok to say 'Jesus' ! after you sneeze".... ?

I'm not a Christian, so it's ok.

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Georgem wrote:

badengk1 wrote:
Its in their church hall. Its not going to impose on any religious goings on within the church its self. What happens when come theif comes along and nicks the lead off the building, maybe the money recieved for the hire of the hall can go towards the up keep of the church. No wonder I know no one appart from a few of my nans friends who attend church if they are so short sighted and fickle like that. makes me want to go to church even less now.

Huh? People generally stop going to church because they stop being religious. If someone still believes in these silly superstitions, but decides not to go to church because of trivial matters like this, they're fools.

yes how foolish to see bigotry as reason to steer clear of the Catholic church.... so apart from trivial matters like that, I assume you mean matters like millions of deaths from aids directly attributed to the policies of the Catholic church when you talk about non-trivial matters !? or is that another "story". Its funny how fools find it so easy to spot fools.

Blah blah blah blah. Good to see you've declared war on straw. Keep up the good work.

baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa baaaa

You automatically lose 1000 internet points by using the term "sheople". Only complete tits use that these days.

does not sound very christian of you George,,, using a misogynist term like that ! shame on you, one for the confessional box perheps... Anyway its easy to tie up supposed "christian" catholics in a knot with the question they can never answer without making themselves look stupid and contradicting their so called religion.... "is it ok to say 'Jesus' ! after you sneeze".... ?

I'm not a Christian, so it's ok.

stop spoiling the fun, pretend you are and answer the ****ing question !! ;-)

MGRA wrote:

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

Is there anything you don't rant about?
For God's sake calm down man, think of your blood pressure. (Not the Catholic God's sake obviously).

I am as calm as a cucumber. Rants are in Caps....

Georgem wrote:

rich the stitch wrote:

freefinker wrote:
.. southy, I do hope you return to this story and read Paramjit at 5:56pm Wed 26 Sep 12, above. You really do need to take his advise.

Funny how he's gone quiet.
I also like the fact he posted a link on here, but I'm sure he's told us all countless times that any link that anyone else puts on here is wrong or been hacked. Interesting how the hackers from all over the world have nothing better to do than change facts/ figures just to make Southy look foolish.

The really amusing part is, the link he's posted quite clearly proves him to be wrong on that matter.

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

Is there anything you don't rant about?
For God's sake calm down man, think of your blood pressure. (Not the Catholic God's sake obviously).

I am as calm as a cucumber. Rants are in Caps....

I thought the saying was "as cool as a cucumber" but I've just been out to the polytunnel and have seen that you are right as all my cucumbers are very calm.

Goldenwight wrote:

eurogordi wrote: I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions. None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity. Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example. As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!" Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

You have personal concerns about those churches which allow practises which started in other religions. You must have serious problems with Christianity, then, rooted as it is in Judaeism. Not to mention the pagan spiritual elements which were later incorporated in Northern Europe. Or would this be a case of being selective in your interpretation of the Word of God. Much as the Spanish Inquisition and the Ku Klux Klan were rather picky about how THEY interpreted it. But that is OK, because they were Christians after all.

MGRA wrote:

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Stillness wrote:

MGRA wrote:
I heard yesterday the fitness instructor recieved no detailed explanation when they cancelled her booking. Then incredibly on the radio the "father" said he was suprised that she went to the media rather than contact him to ask why it was cancelled.
What an idiot. Thats not how it works in the real world... No doubt sheople like GeorgeM with his hear no, see no , speak no outlook will lap up every detail of why simple courtesy went out of the window.

Is there anything you don't rant about?
For God's sake calm down man, think of your blood pressure. (Not the Catholic God's sake obviously).

I am as calm as a cucumber. Rants are in Caps....

I thought the saying was "as cool as a cucumber" but I've just been out to the polytunnel and have seen that you are right as all my cucumbers are very calm.

isn't it "as cool as a duck pond then" !?

Taskforce 141 wrote:
God isnt real - deal with it people!

Taskforce 141 wrote:
God isnt real - deal with it people!

Stillness wrote:
Why not lets just agree that any organization is bound to have it's share of self opinionated jobs worth's with an over inflated view of their own importance. You only have to look at the local socialist party for proof. If you don't believe me just ask southy.
In all seriousness Father Ted has over reacted to a harmless activity taking place within a collection of bricks that he thinks are somehow magical. It's not his fault, he didn't ask to be the way he is............Blame the parents! That's what I say ;-)

Inform Al wrote:

Stillness wrote:
Why not lets just agree that any organization is bound to have it's share of self opinionated jobs worth's with an over inflated view of their own importance. You only have to look at the local socialist party for proof. If you don't believe me just ask southy.
In all seriousness Father Ted has over reacted to a harmless activity taking place within a collection of bricks that he thinks are somehow magical. It's not his fault, he didn't ask to be the way he is............Blame the parents! That's what I say ;-)

Did I just detect a political sheep like bleat in this theological debate?

Tina Wilder wrote:
I used to do Yoga before I became a Christian and can assert due to my own experience that took me deep into the Chinese philosophy and oriental religions, that Yoga and Christianity have nothing in common.

menotyou wrote:
this particular priest is a bigoted idiot who has forced many of his congregation to other churches and is very unwelcoming of new people in his church, shame really prehaps he should become a jehovahs witness - i beleive they are the ones who are in a cult?

eurogordi wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:

eurogordi wrote: I fully support the decision taken by this priest and have personal concerns about those churches that do allow practices which started in other religions. None of us are perfect, whatever religion, meditation or relaxation we choose to follow, but the fundamentals of yoga do conflict with the teachings of Christianity. Well done, Father Chandler, and I very much hope and pray that other Christian leaders and churches will follow your example. As another contributor has already written "It's about time that Christians were allowed to have a voice again!! Good on them for standing up for what the Bible teaches!" Incidentally, if this story was about a mosque refusing a church choir to to hire a room for rehearsals,, I am sure that no one would be criticising the decision of Islamic leaders for upholding their belief structure!

You have personal concerns about those churches which allow practises which started in other religions. You must have serious problems with Christianity, then, rooted as it is in Judaeism. Not to mention the pagan spiritual elements which were later incorporated in Northern Europe. Or would this be a case of being selective in your interpretation of the Word of God. Much as the Spanish Inquisition and the Ku Klux Klan were rather picky about how THEY interpreted it. But that is OK, because they were Christians after all.

I do not deny that the early western church adopted practices from other cultures, but in all cases these were Christianised and the changes that were made did not conflict with Biblical teachings.

As far as Judaism being the foundation of Christianity, I totally agree with this but would add that Christianity COMPLETES Judaism, so again there is no conflict in my personal opinion.

Perhaps I should also add that I am writing this as someone who comes from a Judaeo-Christian; ie. I am a Christian by choice by Jewish by heritage.

Chas O'Bursledon wrote:
Another stupid example of how hate and bigotry never solved a problem. I am proud of my atheism. My moral compass does not allow me to hate or condemn a person I do not know for their beliefs. I do not judge them unless they impose or try to impose their belief system on me. Yoga does no harm. It is not a religion or a martial art. I do not condemn Catholicism but a very stupid man who is coincidentally a priest. I would worry about the example he is setting his congregation.

wilson castaway wrote:
Ahh go on, go on go on go on go on go on go on.........