A ridiculous world of controlling press officers and restrictions on the Eastleigh campaign trail

Daily Echo: Prime Minister David Cameron speaking at B&Q Prime Minister David Cameron speaking at B&Q

“HELP yourselves to the biscuits,” said one of the cheery staff who had clearly been put on ‘biscuit detail’ that day.

The assembled media politely nodded, but even the hastily bought custard creams had lost their appeal after an hour of waiting around in a, by now, overheated room.

Rammed with cameras, broadcast crews, iPads and the odd person with a notebook, the stage, and I do mean stage, was set for another ‘media opportunity’ on the by-election bandwagon, which was going to be graced by the Prime Minister himself.

However, the point of this photocall was the introduction of John O’Farrell, who had 12 hours earlier been put up as the Labour candidate to contest the seat.

He was neither local nor a mum of four, and had been on the TV a few times.

The media had been assembled to capture his debut performance on the campaign trail to a hostile audience – teenagers.

And there they were, these nonvoters, with their array of hairstyles equally as miffed they were being made to wait for the arrival of the candidate who would be accompanied by deputy leader of the Labour party Harriet Harman.

“Any idea when they might be arriving now?”

enquired one exasperated photographer as he braced himself for writing off another job that had been booked in for later that afternoon.

“Any minute now,” said someone with a clipboard. It was becoming a familiar reply and one that I was getting used to on my day of election coverage.

It ranked right up there with “I will see what I can do” (in other words, no chance) and “We will have the BBC first…”

These were the most common responses I was learning I would get from press officers of all parties as I sought to do the simple task of speaking to someone, take their picture and put it in the paper. Ironically for their own benefit.

That is what I have done day in and day out for about ten years with seemingly wild abandonment, but from now until February 28 I could expect to have my technical equipment, movements, and even my speech, it seemed, severely restricted.

I wondered if this was a window into the world of China.

It began earlier that day with the visit of George Osborne to a factory in Eastleigh.

Faring not quite as badly as Mr O’Farrell, he still managed to build in a good 45 minutes of unnecessary hanging about for staff and journos alike.

It did give the press officers the chance to check, check and double check, and we all understood the rules of engagement on this particular ‘big hitter’ visit.

One of them apparently mistook our staff photographer for a goldfish as he repeatedly impressed upon him that he could not move from the square foot of space he was in.

Not even an inch. OK? You’re not moving are you? What are you doing? Changing a lens... OK that’s fine. Don’t move though.

The reporters amongst us were divided up into categories and peeled off into different rooms by people with more clipboards, meaning I had the situation of phoning the photographer, who was still in his square foot, to ask him if he wanted a Danish pastry that had been helpfully provided.

“How about a cup of tea?” I yelled down the corridor to make the point.

It would all be worth it though as we were told we would have five to ten minutes with the main man.

Brilliant, I thought, an absolute golden opportunity to really quiz him about local issues in depth.

When the time came to ask a question of our Chancellor, the goalposts had moved significantly.

We were now down to two questions per reporter on the subject of the campaign only.

I flashed a look at the press officer who gave the original information and realised I should never have trusted anyone that wears blue loafers.

I was one question in when an entirely new press officer told me that was it. I pointed out to her that one and one made two and as yet I only had one in the bag.

I don’t know why I kicked up a fuss on hindsight, as he responded to neither of the questions with an actual answer, but what did I expect?

I still had the joys of a long wait for the Labour candidate that afternoon to come, which finished with a slight media scrum before encountering Mike Thornton, the Lib Dem candidate, who amusingly had booked a spot at the same college about an hour later.

Not wanting to feel left out, Diane James, the UKIP candidate, also popped up during the afternoon to mingle with the kids, and it struck me then that in this age of austerity the parties could just cut down on costs and employ one set of press officers to handle all of it.

My favourite moment of the whole campaign so far came however with the arrival of Mr Cameron.

Clearly the more important you are the fewer questions you can ask as we were down to one, and preferably given to a press officer in advance.

The officer of the press instructed: “National media at the front, local media on the small row at the back.”

Silly me, I thought this was a local byelection, but I took my seat and took out my phone to take a few snaps.

Oh no, I was told, that was simply not allowed. I cast a look around at the 800 staff who were all holding their phones aloft snapping away, before turning back to this new keeper of the freedom with an exasperated look.

“That’s just what I have been told,” she offered.

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8:32am Sun 17 Feb 13

willerby caravans says...

I think the people of Eastleigh have had enough of The Tories and Lib Dems.
After all the last Tory MP Stephen Milligan died in some form of odd sexual gratification. The Last Lib dem. (That sounds like a good phrase) Chris Hume who is a millionaire and could have afforded his own chauffer left after fiddling his motoring points. And Labour have no chance whatsoever and have chosen a candidate who they know has no chance of even coming second or third.
Anyway why do we need MPs? 75% of our Laws are now controlled by The EU.
So UKIP is the only way forward.
Just ordinary folks who want the best for the Country and not self serving like the rest of the morons
I think the people of Eastleigh have had enough of The Tories and Lib Dems. After all the last Tory MP Stephen Milligan died in some form of odd sexual gratification. The Last Lib dem. (That sounds like a good phrase) Chris Hume who is a millionaire and could have afforded his own chauffer left after fiddling his motoring points. And Labour have no chance whatsoever and have chosen a candidate who they know has no chance of even coming second or third. Anyway why do we need MPs? 75% of our Laws are now controlled by The EU. So UKIP is the only way forward. Just ordinary folks who want the best for the Country and not self serving like the rest of the morons willerby caravans
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9:11am Sun 17 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Vote for Hope.
Vote for Hope. OSPREYSAINT
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9:22am Sun 17 Feb 13

worzel67 says...

The UKIP office was also packed, WITH PEOPLE JOINING. Couldn't believe how many people were there. Great news. Looks like the good people of Eastleigh will vote for their country
The UKIP office was also packed, WITH PEOPLE JOINING. Couldn't believe how many people were there. Great news. Looks like the good people of Eastleigh will vote for their country worzel67
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9:26am Sun 17 Feb 13

Forest Resident says...

A rather self indulgent piece of journalism from the Echo. Throwing your toys out of the pram again like you did at St Mary's? We all have our place in the world, it's refreshing to see local journo's being reminded of theirs for once!
A rather self indulgent piece of journalism from the Echo. Throwing your toys out of the pram again like you did at St Mary's? We all have our place in the world, it's refreshing to see local journo's being reminded of theirs for once! Forest Resident
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10:02am Sun 17 Feb 13

roy may says...

Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath” roy may
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10:18am Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
If you are that interested do a little search round the net. You will get our answers pretty quickly
[quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote: Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath”[/p][/quote]If you are that interested do a little search round the net. You will get our answers pretty quickly elvisimo
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10:44am Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.
[quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote: Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath”[/p][/quote]There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter. Stephen J
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10:48am Sun 17 Feb 13

ohec says...

Yesterday my wife and i took our grandson to the park (Leigh Rd Rec) to take advantage of the good weather, only to have our peace and quiet broken by some D***head from TUSC who thought it would be a good idea to assault our ears by using a megaphone to spout his garbage to all those in the play park, quite why he thought that under 5s 90% of those present would be interested i don't know, but even if i had leanings towards TUSC that was enough to persuade me otherwise.
Yesterday my wife and i took our grandson to the park (Leigh Rd Rec) to take advantage of the good weather, only to have our peace and quiet broken by some D***head from TUSC who thought it would be a good idea to assault our ears by using a megaphone to spout his garbage to all those in the play park, quite why he thought that under 5s 90% of those present would be interested i don't know, but even if i had leanings towards TUSC that was enough to persuade me otherwise. ohec
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10:48am Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

Stephen J wrote:
roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.
For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote: Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath”[/p][/quote]There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.[/p][/quote]For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader elvisimo
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10:51am Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK.
Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys.
The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers.

TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.
UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK. Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys. The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers. TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims. southy
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10:55am Sun 17 Feb 13

Dresnez says...

Now they want to tax jewellery: New Lib Dem wealth plan to target ALL assets - including buy-to-let homes

Families will be forced to pay tax on heirlooms under Lib Dem scheme

Tax inspectors would have powers to enter homes and value items

Nick Clegg's party looking at plans to extend proposed mansion tax.

Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2279810/Now-want-tax
-jewellery-New-wealt
h-tax-plan-target-AL
L-assets--including-
buy-let-homes.html

Okay well clearly power has gone to their heads.



Maybe we should just vote in the independent candidates. No reason to have party politics anymore. Party politics are more interested in serving their financial backers than the people.

Also it is more difficult to corrupt they whole government if they are all independent.
Now they want to tax jewellery: New Lib Dem wealth plan to target ALL assets - including buy-to-let homes Families will be forced to pay tax on heirlooms under Lib Dem scheme Tax inspectors would have powers to enter homes and value items Nick Clegg's party looking at plans to extend proposed mansion tax. Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2279810/Now-want-tax -jewellery-New-wealt h-tax-plan-target-AL L-assets--including- buy-let-homes.html Okay well clearly power has gone to their heads. Maybe we should just vote in the independent candidates. No reason to have party politics anymore. Party politics are more interested in serving their financial backers than the people. Also it is more difficult to corrupt they whole government if they are all independent. Dresnez
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10:59am Sun 17 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

elvisimo wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.
For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader
If that's the case, a quick check on newspaper circulation figures for the last decade or more shows the the Sun has been well ahead of the rest so the outcome of this by election is in the bag. Alternatively you could accept that in an open democracy, people hold a wide range of opinions which you may or may not agree with.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote: Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath”[/p][/quote]There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.[/p][/quote]For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader[/p][/quote]If that's the case, a quick check on newspaper circulation figures for the last decade or more shows the the Sun has been well ahead of the rest so the outcome of this by election is in the bag. Alternatively you could accept that in an open democracy, people hold a wide range of opinions which you may or may not agree with. Torchie1
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11:01am Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK.
Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys.
The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers.

TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.
He didn't mention anything about "no expenses" in his video.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK. Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys. The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers. TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.[/p][/quote]He didn't mention anything about "no expenses" in his video. Stephen J
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11:13am Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonRob says...

Sian... if you worked for any national media outlet you wouldn't write this article! That's how these things work! And to be honest this is how they worked as far back as the last by-election in 94!!!!
Sian... if you worked for any national media outlet you wouldn't write this article! That's how these things work! And to be honest this is how they worked as far back as the last by-election in 94!!!! SotonRob
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11:15am Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK.
Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys.
The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers.

TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.
He didn't mention anything about "no expenses" in his video.
Its part of party policy and in the manifest
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK. Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys. The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers. TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.[/p][/quote]He didn't mention anything about "no expenses" in his video.[/p][/quote]Its part of party policy and in the manifest southy
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11:18am Sun 17 Feb 13

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK.
Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys.
The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers.

TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.
It would seem that one of Southys posts explains how much better Tusc have done in the short time they have been around and this one shows how concerned Tusc are at how well UKIP appear to be doing on the doorsteps of Eastleigh.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK. Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys. The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers. TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.[/p][/quote]It would seem that one of Southys posts explains how much better Tusc have done in the short time they have been around and this one shows how concerned Tusc are at how well UKIP appear to be doing on the doorsteps of Eastleigh. Torchie1
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11:22am Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.
Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison. SotonGreen
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11:26am Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration. LancashireLad
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11:29am Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

The rise and rise of UKIP have the three PC liberal parties running scared.
The rise and rise of UKIP have the three PC liberal parties running scared. LancashireLad
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11:33am Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.
agreed
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.[/p][/quote]agreed southy
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11:37am Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
And that says it all for UKIP Quote

"vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge"

Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club.
[quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]And that says it all for UKIP Quote "vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge" Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club. southy
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11:38am Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
UKIP = 1) Get out of Europe; 2) That's it. Even TUSC has more to say than that!
[quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]UKIP = 1) Get out of Europe; 2) That's it. Even TUSC has more to say than that! Stephen J
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11:38am Sun 17 Feb 13

Queen Victoria says...

All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse. Queen Victoria
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11:44am Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
Ever wonder why all three parties are fo EU membership ? Would you even allow for the idea that just possibly it because it is in our own narrow self interest ?
[quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]Ever wonder why all three parties are fo EU membership ? Would you even allow for the idea that just possibly it because it is in our own narrow self interest ? SotonGreen
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11:56am Sun 17 Feb 13

freefinker says...

SotonGreen wrote:
LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
Ever wonder why all three parties are fo EU membership ? Would you even allow for the idea that just possibly it because it is in our own narrow self interest ?
.. oh, don't let facts to get in the way of a thoughtless blinkered rant. That will never do.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]Ever wonder why all three parties are fo EU membership ? Would you even allow for the idea that just possibly it because it is in our own narrow self interest ?[/p][/quote].. oh, don't let facts to get in the way of a thoughtless blinkered rant. That will never do. freefinker
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12:00pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sam1970 says...

UKIP and their terrific leader Mr Farage will be getting my vote.
UKIP and their terrific leader Mr Farage will be getting my vote. sam1970
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12:16pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
[quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy southy
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12:27pm Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
I will accept many insults but I support the Green Party. It has many faults but being self-interested and the same as all the others isn't one I am going to accept.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]I will accept many insults but I support the Green Party. It has many faults but being self-interested and the same as all the others isn't one I am going to accept. SotonGreen
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12:39pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it! Stephen J
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12:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

bigdave1968 says...

southy wrote:
LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
And that says it all for UKIP Quote

"vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge"

Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club.
I take it from your abysmal spelling that you are just another bitter lefty and offer nothing in regard to political debate.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]And that says it all for UKIP Quote "vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge" Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club.[/p][/quote]I take it from your abysmal spelling that you are just another bitter lefty and offer nothing in regard to political debate. bigdave1968
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12:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

SotonGreen wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
I will accept many insults but I support the Green Party. It has many faults but being self-interested and the same as all the others isn't one I am going to accept.
Yes we seen want happen in Brighton and Bristol, which was sad I had high hopes for the Greens, Still I should of relise the Green Party is not the Socialist Green Party.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]I will accept many insults but I support the Green Party. It has many faults but being self-interested and the same as all the others isn't one I am going to accept.[/p][/quote]Yes we seen want happen in Brighton and Bristol, which was sad I had high hopes for the Greens, Still I should of relise the Green Party is not the Socialist Green Party. southy
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12:55pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that. southy
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12:57pm Sun 17 Feb 13

good-gosh says...

All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20%.
All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20%. good-gosh
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1:06pm Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

Southy,

You are wrong.
Southy, You are wrong. SotonGreen
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1:08pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sam1970 says...

good-gosh wrote:
All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20%.
Good Gosh says '' All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20% '' Actually our Controlling Masters are the EU. A vote for Lib/Lab/Con is a vote for more of this Dictatorship, and more uncontrolled immigration. Consider a vote for UKIP.
[quote][p][bold]good-gosh[/bold] wrote: All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20%.[/p][/quote]Good Gosh says '' All parties are divisions of one single controlling master – the Inland Revenue. Vote for anyone and keep coughing up your 20% '' Actually our Controlling Masters are the EU. A vote for Lib/Lab/Con is a vote for more of this Dictatorship, and more uncontrolled immigration. Consider a vote for UKIP. sam1970
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1:10pm Sun 17 Feb 13

jonnyx says...

oh diddums. alternative reading of the story - daily echo doesn't get to control the discourse so throws it's toys out of the pram.

dear sian davies,

you are a very minor part of the fourth estate and you are not very important outside of a very specific geographical area (even within that area it could be argued you are not very important).

also i think you are being both duplicitous and disingenuous as you all know the way these political shindigs work and are simply engineering a sense of outrage at events to stir up a certain reaction in your readers. well done.
oh diddums. alternative reading of the story - daily echo doesn't get to control the discourse so throws it's toys out of the pram. dear sian davies, you are a very minor part of the fourth estate and you are not very important outside of a very specific geographical area (even within that area it could be argued you are not very important). also i think you are being both duplicitous and disingenuous as you all know the way these political shindigs work and are simply engineering a sense of outrage at events to stir up a certain reaction in your readers. well done. jonnyx
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1:12pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Southy,

You are wrong.
How am I wrong
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Southy, You are wrong.[/p][/quote]How am I wrong southy
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

Torchie1 wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
roy may wrote:
Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here
1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is?

2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education?

... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs?

4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws

5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I?

Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates

We are all waiting with baited breath”
There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.
For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader
If that's the case, a quick check on newspaper circulation figures for the last decade or more shows the the Sun has been well ahead of the rest so the outcome of this by election is in the bag. Alternatively you could accept that in an open democracy, people hold a wide range of opinions which you may or may not agree with.
No, with politics people are inherently lazy. They will judge on personality, what someone looks like or a sound bite to appeal over a political hot potato.
To have an opinion you should have some sort of knowledge on which to base it. But that takes effort which unfortunately is why an organisation such as UKIP will do quite well in this election.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roy may[/bold] wrote: Some questions for the LIBLABCONs who post on here 1) Why won't the immigration minister tell us what the estimated number of immigrants from Rumania and Bulgaria is? 2) Can these new immirgants claim any or all the following benefits :- Child Allowance, Housing , Tax Credits, Jobseekers, Free NHS and Dental Treatment and Free Education? ... 3)Can they go on the local housing list and take priority over locals acording to their needs? 4) Would it be illegal to deny them any of the above under EU and Human Rights Laws 5) Will the bill for all the above be paid for by the BRITISH TAXPAER ie you and I? Well come on never mind all this name calling lets have some answers from both those who are posting on here and perhaps the LIBLABCON candidates We are all waiting with baited breath”[/p][/quote]There we have it. The full range of issues that currently concern the average UKIP supporter.[/p][/quote]For average UKIP supporter see Sun reader[/p][/quote]If that's the case, a quick check on newspaper circulation figures for the last decade or more shows the the Sun has been well ahead of the rest so the outcome of this by election is in the bag. Alternatively you could accept that in an open democracy, people hold a wide range of opinions which you may or may not agree with.[/p][/quote]No, with politics people are inherently lazy. They will judge on personality, what someone looks like or a sound bite to appeal over a political hot potato. To have an opinion you should have some sort of knowledge on which to base it. But that takes effort which unfortunately is why an organisation such as UKIP will do quite well in this election. elvisimo
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1:27pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag elvisimo
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1:29pm Sun 17 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
Southy,

You are wrong.
How am I wrong
.. where do we start?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Southy, You are wrong.[/p][/quote]How am I wrong[/p][/quote].. where do we start? freefinker
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2:07pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA. southy
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2:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
Southy,

You are wrong.
How am I wrong
.. where do we start?
You cant free you do not do enough research over the matter of politics like many people do not.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Southy, You are wrong.[/p][/quote]How am I wrong[/p][/quote].. where do we start?[/p][/quote]You cant free you do not do enough research over the matter of politics like many people do not. southy
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2:12pm Sun 17 Feb 13

An0nymous/735PONSE says...

Write some real journalism

Rothschild, Freemason
MK ultra, Operation paperclip
Operation fast and furious
HAARP. chemtrails
Cia Waco

Corporations control the world through the media... Follow the money and it will lead you to the criminals

Its funny the term 'conspiracy theory' which will discredit intelligent ideas without the slightest hesitation or cognitive dissonance for that matter
Write some real journalism Rothschild, Freemason MK ultra, Operation paperclip Operation fast and furious HAARP. chemtrails Cia Waco Corporations control the world through the media... Follow the money and it will lead you to the criminals Its funny the term 'conspiracy theory' which will discredit intelligent ideas without the slightest hesitation or cognitive dissonance for that matter An0nymous/735PONSE
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2:18pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying. elvisimo
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2:27pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact southy
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2:31pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements. elvisimo
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2:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association. southy
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2:53pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
Listen for yourself
http://www.lbc.co.uk
/should-bob-crow-hav
e-a-council-house-59
141

Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator?

By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary.

Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.[/p][/quote]Listen for yourself http://www.lbc.co.uk /should-bob-crow-hav e-a-council-house-59 141 Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator? By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary. Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate. elvisimo
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3:06pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
Listen for yourself
http://www.lbc.co.uk

/should-bob-crow-hav

e-a-council-house-59

141

Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator?

By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary.

Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.
No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate.
£150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week.
His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.[/p][/quote]Listen for yourself http://www.lbc.co.uk /should-bob-crow-hav e-a-council-house-59 141 Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator? By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary. Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.[/p][/quote]No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate. £150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week. His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that. southy
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3:15pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
Listen for yourself
http://www.lbc.co.uk


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Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator?

By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary.

Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.
No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate.
£150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week.
His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.
A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses.

Hold on. What's this ....
As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs

Imagine what he earns now!!

You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.[/p][/quote]Listen for yourself http://www.lbc.co.uk /should-bob-crow-hav e-a-council-house-59 141 Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator? By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary. Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.[/p][/quote]No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate. £150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week. His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.[/p][/quote]A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses. Hold on. What's this .... As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs Imagine what he earns now!! You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there. elvisimo
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3:22pm Sun 17 Feb 13

sam1970 says...

Until we are out of the EU it is irrelevant whether Lib/Lab or Con are in power because our laws come from Brussels now. That is why I will be voting UKIP. They also have a host of other common sense policies.
Until we are out of the EU it is irrelevant whether Lib/Lab or Con are in power because our laws come from Brussels now. That is why I will be voting UKIP. They also have a host of other common sense policies. sam1970
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3:38pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
Listen for yourself
http://www.lbc.co.uk



/should-bob-crow-hav



e-a-council-house-59



141

Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator?

By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary.

Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.
No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate.
£150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week.
His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.
A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses.

Hold on. What's this ....
As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs

Imagine what he earns now!!

You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there.
Your wrong his wages are and that includes all expenses, pension there are no bonus he gets, RMT dont give any, £94,000.
You can check this out also with Union House, the books are on the counter where any one can see them.
To find out his true wage you need to take those known figures of total earnings and deduct expeneses, pension. (oh by the way traveling cost comes under expenses).
[quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.[/p][/quote]Listen for yourself http://www.lbc.co.uk /should-bob-crow-hav e-a-council-house-59 141 Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator? By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary. Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.[/p][/quote]No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate. £150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week. His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.[/p][/quote]A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses. Hold on. What's this .... As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs Imagine what he earns now!! You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there.[/p][/quote]Your wrong his wages are and that includes all expenses, pension there are no bonus he gets, RMT dont give any, £94,000. You can check this out also with Union House, the books are on the counter where any one can see them. To find out his true wage you need to take those known figures of total earnings and deduct expeneses, pension. (oh by the way traveling cost comes under expenses). southy
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3:41pm Sun 17 Feb 13

housewife says...

A few days before standing down, Mr Huhne claimed an iPad as "essential expenses"
Could the Lib Dem candidate confirm that Mr Huhne has passed the "essential" Ipad onto the next Eastleigh MP?
.
Or has Mr Huhne paid tax (at 50% ) on it as a benefit in kind?
.
or was he just a freeloading **** and despite earning more than almost everybody in the constituency, kept it?
A few days before standing down, Mr Huhne claimed an iPad as "essential expenses" Could the Lib Dem candidate confirm that Mr Huhne has passed the "essential" Ipad onto the next Eastleigh MP? . Or has Mr Huhne paid tax (at 50% ) on it as a benefit in kind? . or was he just a freeloading **** and despite earning more than almost everybody in the constituency, kept it? housewife
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3:44pm Sun 17 Feb 13

southy says...

With luck the Hustings that took place today that have just finished will be up on youtube.
It seems by first report that the TUSC rep walk all over, all other partys and got told that they are the only ones making sence, that was good to hear.
With luck the Hustings that took place today that have just finished will be up on youtube. It seems by first report that the TUSC rep walk all over, all other partys and got told that they are the only ones making sence, that was good to hear. southy
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4:12pm Sun 17 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
With luck the Hustings that took place today that have just finished will be up on youtube.
It seems by first report that the TUSC rep walk all over, all other partys and got told that they are the only ones making sence, that was good to hear.
.. yes southy, and in your world he would get 99.7% of the vote on a 100% turnout.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: With luck the Hustings that took place today that have just finished will be up on youtube. It seems by first report that the TUSC rep walk all over, all other partys and got told that they are the only ones making sence, that was good to hear.[/p][/quote].. yes southy, and in your world he would get 99.7% of the vote on a 100% turnout. freefinker
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4:22pm Sun 17 Feb 13

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
Southy,

You are wrong.
How am I wrong
.. where do we start?
You cant free you do not do enough research over the matter of politics like many people do not.
.. cor blimey, that’s a laugh. southy accusing me of lack of research??

Er, let’s see, where does council tax go? Does it increase with every adult in the dwelling? Is the Bedroom Tax ‘the first real major change to the Council tax’?

It would seem you are totally incapable of any kind of research; scientific, statistical, political; you name it, southy gets it wrong. Dare I mention your old mate Rahit Maryada?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Southy, You are wrong.[/p][/quote]How am I wrong[/p][/quote].. where do we start?[/p][/quote]You cant free you do not do enough research over the matter of politics like many people do not.[/p][/quote].. cor blimey, that’s a laugh. southy accusing me of lack of research?? Er, let’s see, where does council tax go? Does it increase with every adult in the dwelling? Is the Bedroom Tax ‘the first real major change to the Council tax’? It would seem you are totally incapable of any kind of research; scientific, statistical, political; you name it, southy gets it wrong. Dare I mention your old mate Rahit Maryada? freefinker
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4:59pm Sun 17 Feb 13

ohec says...

bigdave1968 wrote:
southy wrote:
LancashireLad wrote:
What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.
And that says it all for UKIP Quote

"vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge"

Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club.
I take it from your abysmal spelling that you are just another bitter lefty and offer nothing in regard to political debate.
Southys spelling is pretty good today at least you can decipher what he is trying to say, some of his posts are completely unreadable. That said at least he is helping all the other parties because nobody in their right mind would vote for a party that relies on people like southy for support.
[quote][p][bold]bigdave1968[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LancashireLad[/bold] wrote: What is the real choice facing Eastleigh voters, chose one of the cosy three PC liberal parties whether it be Conservative, Lib Dems or Labour, after all they are all political correct liberals, all for gay marriage and all for contiued membership of the EU or vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge, vote UK Independence Party and Diane James and show the nation that the silent majority reject our Britain's continued membership of the EU; which is clearly a failed very expensive experiment that gave us open door imigration.[/p][/quote]And that says it all for UKIP Quote "vote for a right of centre party with a plain speaking leader in Nigel Fararge" Thats telling the working class that UKIP is not for them, its just a another party for the rich elite club, and wants there noses in the pig trough for there share of the gravy train of the rich elite club.[/p][/quote]I take it from your abysmal spelling that you are just another bitter lefty and offer nothing in regard to political debate.[/p][/quote]Southys spelling is pretty good today at least you can decipher what he is trying to say, some of his posts are completely unreadable. That said at least he is helping all the other parties because nobody in their right mind would vote for a party that relies on people like southy for support. ohec
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6:31pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Not left wing? He used to be in the Communist Party! You mean the 'meeting' (boozy night out) which the RMT footed the £4,203.74 bill for at the Corse Lawn Hotel in Gloucestershire? The 'meeting' at which the hotel management had to apologise to other guests for because of the RMT guys' behaviour? How far from the socialist ideal. Yet so close to its reality.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Not left wing? He used to be in the Communist Party! You mean the 'meeting' (boozy night out) which the RMT footed the £4,203.74 bill for at the Corse Lawn Hotel in Gloucestershire? The 'meeting' at which the hotel management had to apologise to other guests for because of the RMT guys' behaviour? How far from the socialist ideal. Yet so close to its reality. Stephen J
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7:21pm Sun 17 Feb 13

willerby caravans says...

southy wrote:
UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK.
Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys.
The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers.

TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.
Why would any European Country want to throw out Brits that were working and contributing to their economy? They would not. Brits don't travel abroad to obtain other Countries welfare and handouts. At worse the Brits living abroad and getting welfare are getting it from The UK
That argument is a NO BRAINER
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: UKIP needs to ask it self this, if they do get into power and stop immergation what would be the back lash from those countrys, it will result in a tit for tat, those countrys would do the same to us, and we would end up with more people returning back to the UK. Our biggest export in the UK is British people working in other countrys. The TUSC also offers the pull out of the EU, only difference is that the TUSC is looking into a lot deeper than UKIP are and ukip will cause bigger proplems with population numbers. TUSC candidate will do the MP's job on a working man wage and no expenses claims.[/p][/quote]Why would any European Country want to throw out Brits that were working and contributing to their economy? They would not. Brits don't travel abroad to obtain other Countries welfare and handouts. At worse the Brits living abroad and getting welfare are getting it from The UK That argument is a NO BRAINER willerby caravans
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7:26pm Sun 17 Feb 13

willerby caravans says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.
iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem.
I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.[/p][/quote]iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem. I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up willerby caravans
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7:46pm Sun 17 Feb 13

Stephen J says...

willerby caravans wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.
iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem.
I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up
Coloured? Says it all.
[quote][p][bold]willerby caravans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.[/p][/quote]iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem. I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up[/p][/quote]Coloured? Says it all. Stephen J
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7:57pm Sun 17 Feb 13

elvisimo says...

southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
elvisimo wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag
He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.
Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.
It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact
James whale question to Bob crow
"Do you live in a council house?"

Bob crow to James whale "yes I do"

Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?"

Well bob yes we probably do.

You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.
You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago.

And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax.

Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.
Listen for yourself
http://www.lbc.co.uk




/should-bob-crow-hav




e-a-council-house-59




141

Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator?

By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary.

Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.
No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate.
£150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week.
His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.
A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses.

Hold on. What's this ....
As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs

Imagine what he earns now!!

You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there.
Your wrong his wages are and that includes all expenses, pension there are no bonus he gets, RMT dont give any, £94,000.
You can check this out also with Union House, the books are on the counter where any one can see them.
To find out his true wage you need to take those known figures of total earnings and deduct expeneses, pension. (oh by the way traveling cost comes under expenses).
Statement from his union said:
his overall pay package rose from £122,167 to £133,183 last year.
On top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs, taking his total income to £145,548.

And
The RMT defended Mr Crow's pay packet saying there was no case of double standards and that he is "worth every penny".

Don't make things up or change numbers to suit you view point

I employ 15 people I know how wages are calculated, the difference between gross and net pay and how expenses are accounted for.

These numbers come from his union
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]elvisimo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Probably afford to give it away living in his council house. What a scumbag[/p][/quote]He do not live in a council house, that is just plain right wing false propaganda, he privately rents from a HA.[/p][/quote]Yes he does . Listen to him admit it LBC 28th August 2012. It's on google . His own words. Stop lying.[/p][/quote]It not a lie he lives in a HA (Housing Association) house that is privately rented. and that is fact[/p][/quote]James whale question to Bob crow "Do you live in a council house?" Bob crow to James whale "yes I do" Bob then goes on to say "Do we really want social housing purely for those people that are poor?" Well bob yes we probably do. You obviously know more than bob does about his living arrangements.[/p][/quote]You can look it up your self, but i am telling you now he lives in a HA home, privately rents, where he lives there are no council houses, they was all sold to a private company over 10 years ago. And if he did, at lest you could say he helping the local council in keeping debts down by being able to pay full rent and full amount of tax. Now if you want to find out the real truth then I suggest to you to contact Woodford Council where he lives and they will tell you they own no houses there house stock was all sold off to Private Housing Association.[/p][/quote]Listen for yourself http://www.lbc.co.uk /should-bob-crow-hav e-a-council-house-59 141 Ps. this is 8 months ago. Are you saying bob is telling porkie pies or is it maybe a bob impersonator? By living in his council house he is depriving people not fortunate enough to earn a six figure salary. Pps. He pays £150 per week in council rent. Approx £200 below market rate.[/p][/quote]No he was using the term lightly as it is an ex-council house, where he lives is an ex-council estate. £150 per week is what the norm is, and is not below the market rent as the other houses around the area are about the same rent per week. His wages per year is £94,000 and that inclueds expenses, of which he gives a good £50,000 plus each year to good causes, he even given strikers money out of his pocket to help them out. now how many leaders do you know that will do that.[/p][/quote]A so now you are psychic. Another string to your bow. His own words are not good enough for you. Very rose tinted glasses. Hold on. What's this .... As of 2009, Bob Crow's basic salary at RMT was £94,747; a 12% increase from the previous year. His entire pay package with bonuses and pensions was £133,138; on top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs Imagine what he earns now!! You should have a little scout through their accounts. It's all there.[/p][/quote]Your wrong his wages are and that includes all expenses, pension there are no bonus he gets, RMT dont give any, £94,000. You can check this out also with Union House, the books are on the counter where any one can see them. To find out his true wage you need to take those known figures of total earnings and deduct expeneses, pension. (oh by the way traveling cost comes under expenses).[/p][/quote]Statement from his union said: his overall pay package rose from £122,167 to £133,183 last year. On top of this he claimed £9,989 in expenses and £2,376 in travel costs, taking his total income to £145,548. And The RMT defended Mr Crow's pay packet saying there was no case of double standards and that he is "worth every penny". Don't make things up or change numbers to suit you view point I employ 15 people I know how wages are calculated, the difference between gross and net pay and how expenses are accounted for. These numbers come from his union elvisimo
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8:33pm Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

The choice is simple Tory Toffs, PC liberals, or champagne socialists who all scrabble to look the most trendy and progressive but then there is Nigel Fararge having a ciggie and a pint down the pub and speaking the language of ordinary people on Europe, immigration, unemployment, rip off prices of fuel and domestic energy (all under the guise of the new false climate change) and the dishonest green stealth taxes of course...so what will it be Nigel Fararge asks more of the same or do you fancy a pint of what I'm having; a pint of truth? It's time for a change, vote UKIP and make history in Eastleigh.
The choice is simple Tory Toffs, PC liberals, or champagne socialists who all scrabble to look the most trendy and progressive but then there is Nigel Fararge having a ciggie and a pint down the pub and speaking the language of ordinary people on Europe, immigration, unemployment, rip off prices of fuel and domestic energy (all under the guise of the new false climate change) and the dishonest green stealth taxes of course...so what will it be Nigel Fararge asks more of the same or do you fancy a pint of what I'm having; a pint of truth? It's time for a change, vote UKIP and make history in Eastleigh. LancashireLad
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8:57pm Sun 17 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

ComRes. Poll out today confirms the rise and rise of UKIP and the demise of the Liberal Democrats: Labour 36% Conservatives 31% UK Independence Party 15% and Liberal Democrats on a miserly 8% ! Poll conducted on behalf of Independent on Sunday & The Sunday Mirror.
ComRes. Poll out today confirms the rise and rise of UKIP and the demise of the Liberal Democrats: Labour 36% Conservatives 31% UK Independence Party 15% and Liberal Democrats on a miserly 8% ! Poll conducted on behalf of Independent on Sunday & The Sunday Mirror. LancashireLad
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11:00pm Sun 17 Feb 13

SotonGreen says...

willerby caravans wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.
iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem.
I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up
Actually I am a Green Party supporter.

So wrong there. Also with a leader who talks about never winning the **** vote and a party described by your ex-leader as to the right of the BNP on immigration I stand by my accusation you are a bunch of petty little racists.
[quote][p][bold]willerby caravans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Good to see the UKIP racists are out in force on here again. I say good because at least it means they are not out on the streets spreading their poison.[/p][/quote]iNTERESTING POST from a small minded Labour or Limp Dem. I'm UKIP and have a foreign wife so does our chairman. Our previous agent was coloured. We accept members from all creeds races and religions the only ones we won't accept are members or previos members of the BNP or any racists. So we want to have the same sort of immigration controls as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Are they all Racists? Grow up[/p][/quote]Actually I am a Green Party supporter. So wrong there. Also with a leader who talks about never winning the **** vote and a party described by your ex-leader as to the right of the BNP on immigration I stand by my accusation you are a bunch of petty little racists. SotonGreen
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8:50am Mon 18 Feb 13

philgcdr says...

For a sovereign UK vote UKIP.org.
For a sovereign UK vote UKIP.org. philgcdr
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11:43am Mon 18 Feb 13

timothyvince says...

Danny Stupple is standing as an Independent in the By Election without any of the funding or cynicism of the big party machines. National polticians turn up for pictures and take no genuine interest in Eastleigh. Ed Milliband, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, William Hague, Vince Cable are all the same. This is a chance for local areas to truly be represented on the national stage. Danny's challenge is unprecedented. Never before has someone so gifted and locally based in education and charity work taken the plunge to go national without Big Party backing. The mainstream media monopolies need to act more responsibly and the country needs to wake up to the lack of true democracy in our country. The Echo should also give equal media coverage for all candidates!
Danny Stupple is standing as an Independent in the By Election without any of the funding or cynicism of the big party machines. National polticians turn up for pictures and take no genuine interest in Eastleigh. Ed Milliband, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, William Hague, Vince Cable are all the same. This is a chance for local areas to truly be represented on the national stage. Danny's challenge is unprecedented. Never before has someone so gifted and locally based in education and charity work taken the plunge to go national without Big Party backing. The mainstream media monopolies need to act more responsibly and the country needs to wake up to the lack of true democracy in our country. The Echo should also give equal media coverage for all candidates! timothyvince
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1:36pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Shoong says...

Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Stephen J wrote:
southy wrote:
Queen Victoria wrote:
All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.
Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy
But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it!
Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made.
the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.
Not left wing? He used to be in the Communist Party! You mean the 'meeting' (boozy night out) which the RMT footed the £4,203.74 bill for at the Corse Lawn Hotel in Gloucestershire? The 'meeting' at which the hotel management had to apologise to other guests for because of the RMT guys' behaviour? How far from the socialist ideal. Yet so close to its reality.
Yes, he's so not Left Wing that he called his dog 'Stalin' apparently.
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Queen Victoria[/bold] wrote: All parties are the same They offer everything we want and when they get in We the people get nothing we want but the party who get in gets everything they want to benefit their purse.[/p][/quote]Thats because your voting in Right wing partys, and there only intrest is in Capitalism which is policy of the wealthy[/p][/quote]But it's not just the Right is it? Bob Crow, on his six-figure salary from the RMT, is known for enjoying the finer things in life; the champagne, the luxury hotels, the VIP boxes at football matches. All of which is no doubt even better when he can get the union to pay for it![/p][/quote]Its 5 figures which inclueds expenses, Bob him self will tell you he is not Left Wing but he do not like how the working class are beening treated by the right wing, they seem to forget its the lower classes that make the money for them to be rich in the first place, with out them money would not be able to be made. the Champagne and that dinner was a birthday present from the RMT which inclued talks before and after on business matters, they did not stay in the Hotel each member present went to there homes after wards, He is place just behind the VIP box at football matches that is when he can go, Bob C gives a lot of money away to good causes, how many other leaders do that.[/p][/quote]Not left wing? He used to be in the Communist Party! You mean the 'meeting' (boozy night out) which the RMT footed the £4,203.74 bill for at the Corse Lawn Hotel in Gloucestershire? The 'meeting' at which the hotel management had to apologise to other guests for because of the RMT guys' behaviour? How far from the socialist ideal. Yet so close to its reality.[/p][/quote]Yes, he's so not Left Wing that he called his dog 'Stalin' apparently. Shoong
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1:53pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

"He was neither local nor a mum of four, and had been on the TV a few times."

And who is local and a mum of four...? ahh the penny drops.

SIan davies. shameless. Pathetic clog of the PR propaganda machine.
"He was neither local nor a mum of four, and had been on the TV a few times." And who is local and a mum of four...? ahh the penny drops. SIan davies. shameless. Pathetic clog of the PR propaganda machine. Subject48
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1:54pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Subject48 says...

He he he... The new guys on the forum are trying to argue with southy :P
He he he... The new guys on the forum are trying to argue with southy :P Subject48
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10:34pm Mon 18 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

timothyvince wrote:
Danny Stupple is standing as an Independent in the By Election without any of the funding or cynicism of the big party machines. National polticians turn up for pictures and take no genuine interest in Eastleigh. Ed Milliband, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, William Hague, Vince Cable are all the same. This is a chance for local areas to truly be represented on the national stage. Danny's challenge is unprecedented. Never before has someone so gifted and locally based in education and charity work taken the plunge to go national without Big Party backing. The mainstream media monopolies need to act more responsibly and the country needs to wake up to the lack of true democracy in our country. The Echo should also give equal media coverage for all candidates!
Timothy I really hope and pray Danny does well he sounds like a very genuine guy who deserves to do well. If only there were people like Danny in Parliament what a different country we would have. The best advice I can give Danny is to get his first leaflet out as soon as possible; before the postal votes are sent out in the next few days. If he is to do well he needs to pick up a good percentage of the postal vote. For the same reason I advise he visits as many old folks homes & warden controlled premises and gets his message across as to what a decent and honest guy he is and that he is truly a local person who really cares about the people of Eastleigh; unlike the outsiders who are just using the election for their own selfish political agenda. I hope the Echo gives him fair coverage. I have noticed already how much copy space is being given to the three main 'liberal' parties: Conservative, Lib Dems and Labour. Yet UKIP who with a much stronger showing than the Liberals in a recent National poll are not being given a fair slice of the copy space cake. I hope Danny does well as a local independent , however, my great hope is on Diane James for the UK Independent Party; she is the candidate with the most realistic outside chance of making history in Eastleigh. I hope and pray they both do well.
[quote][p][bold]timothyvince[/bold] wrote: Danny Stupple is standing as an Independent in the By Election without any of the funding or cynicism of the big party machines. National polticians turn up for pictures and take no genuine interest in Eastleigh. Ed Milliband, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, William Hague, Vince Cable are all the same. This is a chance for local areas to truly be represented on the national stage. Danny's challenge is unprecedented. Never before has someone so gifted and locally based in education and charity work taken the plunge to go national without Big Party backing. The mainstream media monopolies need to act more responsibly and the country needs to wake up to the lack of true democracy in our country. The Echo should also give equal media coverage for all candidates![/p][/quote]Timothy I really hope and pray Danny does well he sounds like a very genuine guy who deserves to do well. If only there were people like Danny in Parliament what a different country we would have. The best advice I can give Danny is to get his first leaflet out as soon as possible; before the postal votes are sent out in the next few days. If he is to do well he needs to pick up a good percentage of the postal vote. For the same reason I advise he visits as many old folks homes & warden controlled premises and gets his message across as to what a decent and honest guy he is and that he is truly a local person who really cares about the people of Eastleigh; unlike the outsiders who are just using the election for their own selfish political agenda. I hope the Echo gives him fair coverage. I have noticed already how much copy space is being given to the three main 'liberal' parties: Conservative, Lib Dems and Labour. Yet UKIP who with a much stronger showing than the Liberals in a recent National poll are not being given a fair slice of the copy space cake. I hope Danny does well as a local independent , however, my great hope is on Diane James for the UK Independent Party; she is the candidate with the most realistic outside chance of making history in Eastleigh. I hope and pray they both do well. LancashireLad
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9:23am Tue 19 Feb 13

drydamol1 says...

BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES –AMERICAN INFLUENCE/WELFARE/HE
ALTH/WARS/EMPLOYMENT

The American dream - that’s what the USA population are told to believe in because they cannot believe in anything else and what their Politicians say and do influences the British Establishment – much to our detriment .What has it got to do with America about our membership of the EU .How many wars have we been involved in concerning the Yanks .We have only just finished paying them back for WW11 – Allies ,we paid dearly for their involvement .Where did we get Welfare Reform from UNUM American not fit for purpose insurance con .Successive Governments in the UK haven’t a brain between them they have followed the American Model – much to the British Public cost .We the British Public have not been taken in by the Yanks but those in charge of us have and we have to pay for it .”It’s not what Britain can do for you but how you can line Government pockets “ www.brokenbritainund
ertories.com
BROKEN BRITAIN UNDER TORIES –AMERICAN INFLUENCE/WELFARE/HE ALTH/WARS/EMPLOYMENT The American dream - that’s what the USA population are told to believe in because they cannot believe in anything else and what their Politicians say and do influences the British Establishment – much to our detriment .What has it got to do with America about our membership of the EU .How many wars have we been involved in concerning the Yanks .We have only just finished paying them back for WW11 – Allies ,we paid dearly for their involvement .Where did we get Welfare Reform from UNUM American not fit for purpose insurance con .Successive Governments in the UK haven’t a brain between them they have followed the American Model – much to the British Public cost .We the British Public have not been taken in by the Yanks but those in charge of us have and we have to pay for it .”It’s not what Britain can do for you but how you can line Government pockets “ www.brokenbritainund ertories.com drydamol1
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2:42pm Tue 19 Feb 13

one in a million says...

"UKIP is the only way forward."...how ironic is that statement!
"UKIP is the only way forward."...how ironic is that statement! one in a million
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8:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

LancashireLad says...

one in a million wrote:
"UKIP is the only way forward."...how ironic is that statement!
Well compared to the crony champangne socialists ( Labour) who wish people dead who disagree with their failed phoney left wing ideology or the PC wishy washy Liberals who have no convictions about anything apart from when people disagree with them , then they are not liberal at all, or you could have the two Tory Toff's Osborne and Cameron who wouldn't know a ordinary person if they fell over them, plus they are probably more liberal and PC than the liberals; just look at us progessive liberal Conservatives modernists, we will force gay marriage on you if whether you like it or not as it makes us look so trendy don't you think?....so there is only one other alternative than these three phoney liberal parties, yes you guessed it, it is a plain speaking guy saying it as it is in the language of ordinary people, yes it is the one and only Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party , supporting an equally honest and straight speaking candidate in Diane James... so maybe they are the only real choice at the moment and the only way forward , as the other three are just politically correct liberals who think they know best and who have completley lost touch with the people of Britain. We need a shake up in UK politics, so vote for DIANE JAMES and UKIP and make history in Eastleigh..
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: "UKIP is the only way forward."...how ironic is that statement![/p][/quote]Well compared to the crony champangne socialists ( Labour) who wish people dead who disagree with their failed phoney left wing ideology or the PC wishy washy Liberals who have no convictions about anything apart from when people disagree with them , then they are not liberal at all, or you could have the two Tory Toff's Osborne and Cameron who wouldn't know a ordinary person if they fell over them, plus they are probably more liberal and PC than the liberals; just look at us progessive liberal Conservatives modernists, we will force gay marriage on you if whether you like it or not as it makes us look so trendy don't you think?....so there is only one other alternative than these three phoney liberal parties, yes you guessed it, it is a plain speaking guy saying it as it is in the language of ordinary people, yes it is the one and only Nigel Farage and the UK Independence Party , supporting an equally honest and straight speaking candidate in Diane James... so maybe they are the only real choice at the moment and the only way forward , as the other three are just politically correct liberals who think they know best and who have completley lost touch with the people of Britain. We need a shake up in UK politics, so vote for DIANE JAMES and UKIP and make history in Eastleigh.. LancashireLad
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8:55pm Tue 19 Feb 13

elliestruth says...

I wish the Eastleigh UKIP Candidate the best and that she gives the Lab/Com/Lib a real fright. The only trouble is it will not matter who gets in as all our powers come from Brussel, not until we have a serious voice in Parliament we can not
make a real difference, but Eastleigh could be a good start. Vote UKIP
I wish the Eastleigh UKIP Candidate the best and that she gives the Lab/Com/Lib a real fright. The only trouble is it will not matter who gets in as all our powers come from Brussel, not until we have a serious voice in Parliament we can not make a real difference, but Eastleigh could be a good start. Vote UKIP elliestruth
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6:24pm Sat 23 Feb 13

philgcdr says...

"UKIP (UKIP.org) SURGE IN EASTLEIGH

This morning’s Populus poll bears that out. They are in third place with 21 per cent, with the Tories second on 28 and the Lib Dems ahead with 33. But, as the indispensable UK Polling Report points out,if you don’t reallocate some of the undecides to the party they voted for last time, UKIP are doing even better. The numbers then are UKIP 25%, Tories 26% and Lib Dems 31%"

From: Specatordotcodotuk
"UKIP (UKIP.org) SURGE IN EASTLEIGH This morning’s Populus poll bears that out. They are in third place with 21 per cent, with the Tories second on 28 and the Lib Dems ahead with 33. But, as the indispensable UK Polling Report points out,if you don’t reallocate some of the undecides to the party they voted for last time, UKIP are doing even better. The numbers then are UKIP 25%, Tories 26% and Lib Dems 31%" From: Specatordotcodotuk philgcdr
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