Police crackdown on drivers using their mobiles (From Daily Echo)

Just a bit puzzled, in this article there is reference to "an unnecessary overtake". Anyone know what this means as I need to know when overtaking in future......jargon maybe,Police 'speak'....?

Not sure about the HGV thing!
Assuming it's a right hand drive, the passenger/observer would be on the left; most traffic will be overtaking on the right hand side, so I'm confused as to what great vantage point this would present? I would imagine I see around about 30 people a week along my travels around the motorway network using their phones, not too great a result given the resources the police threw at this 'Operation'

Most accidents happen in cities, so why wasnt the operation in cities?

If doing something in the car was dangerous as they say it is, ie eating,drinking,adju
sting the radio or the phone and in this short space they caught so many people, then surely, statistically the roads would be absolute carnage and there would be a crash every 100 yards.
Thats why people with common sense know this is just a money making exercise and ignore the law.

Hope they catch the guy that nearly ran me over yesterday doing 50 in a 30 limit and talking on his phone.

another cash-cow operation by the police... it also explodes the myth that they are "under resourced" that is clearly a total joke...

does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

Forest Phil wrote:
Just a bit puzzled, in this article there is reference to "an unnecessary overtake". Anyone know what this means as I need to know when overtaking in future......jargon maybe,Police 'speak'....?

Quite often on my bike I'm overtaken on a corner leaving the overtaking driver at risk of a head on collision from a car coming the other way.

An unecessary overtake involves two LGV-HGV,S with one pulling out and because of his speed limiter restricting him to 56mph he cannot over take the vehicle and then moves back in behind the vehicle he failed to overtake.

Ive seen them use the lorry on road wars before, they get away with using it because people that use their mobile phones usualy sit in the slow lane going too slow and not noticing whats going on around them, till the HGV cab pulls up next to them with a copper sat in the passenger seat with a video camera haha.

They should look out around towns and cities though, not just the motorway!!

Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

dango wrote:
does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

Did you ring up 101 and report it with the licence plate? No? Oh you probably made it up.

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

But do you see 80 accidents? No

sotonwinch09 wrote:

dango wrote:
does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

Did you ring up 101 and report it with the licence plate? No? Oh you probably made it up.

oh yes, that's right, I made it up so I could post about it here and be called a liar, what a tw@t you are.

So, using four dedicated vehicles full time for five days the Police catch 55 motorists using phones. Across the whole of Hampshire, with countless thousands of journeys taking place. That's an average of less than 2.5 captures per day per patrol. What an enormous waste of Police resources.

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

Yet failed to spot a single driver hogging the middle lane @ 60mph.

dango wrote:

sotonwinch09 wrote:

dango wrote:
does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

Did you ring up 101 and report it with the licence plate? No? Oh you probably made it up.

oh yes, that's right, I made it up so I could post about it here and be called a liar, what a tw@t you are.

And also must of us have better things to do then report someone for using a mobile, most people don't get boners over such pathetic things unlike the police! you get your garage broken into and all your things pinched they couldn't give too hoots just take a statement and file it in the bin probably.

Lambo1976 wrote:

The Salv wrote: Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

Couldnt agree more, 2 hands on the steering wheel at all times other than changing gear etc. Smoking, cant stand seeing people driving with a fag in there hands. The reason why the are not all involved in accidents is because the majority of us our concentrating and avoid the near collisions. The amount of accidents that have been avoiding through my concentration on the roads would be at least 1 a week on average. OAP, Aggresive woman drivers, motor bikes all have my reaction skills to thank for lack of collisions.

The Salv wrote:

Lambo1976 wrote:

The Salv wrote: Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

Couldnt agree more, 2 hands on the steering wheel at all times other than changing gear etc. Smoking, cant stand seeing people driving with a fag in there hands. The reason why the are not all involved in accidents is because the majority of us our concentrating and avoid the near collisions. The amount of accidents that have been avoiding through my concentration on the roads would be at least 1 a week on average. OAP, Aggresive woman drivers, motor bikes all have my reaction skills to thank for lack of collisions.

You are such a wonderful person ............... Please thank your parents for giving birth to you.

HA

MGRA wrote:
another cash-cow operation by the police... it also explodes the myth that they are "under resourced" that is clearly a total joke...

Thats a very fair point if they have time to sit 2 officers in a cab recording and looking out for people on the phone they cannot be that under resourced surely?

68 notices = £5440 in revenue for a 5 day crackdown would of cost more than that surely to fund this operation, is there not more serious crime where resources could be better allocated as this 20% budget cut seems to be such a sore issue for them yet this in my opinion doesnt seem like the best use of police time and taxpayers money

Lambo1976 wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

No, but distracted drivers do some very stupid things without looking properly, add in prat nav's telling them to do something and they do that without looking at all, assuming they can even see the road properly! Prat nav centre of screen screen can't see the pavement, children especially are hidden, to the right by the A pillar and you can loose a car, let alone a bike, or one taxi driver who I saw who had a lap-top GPS directly infront of him, looking round it to see the road!

The queue's on the M27 are revealing, texting is common, phones as phones to, and Kindle's are replacing paperbacks, but not the broadsheets yet!!!

The Slav also hit on one of the biggest problems, smoking, ok if you must fine, USE YOUR ASHTRAY, not the road or other people's faces, riding in traffic isn't much fun with fag ash in your eyes!

dango wrote:
does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

I also saw this happen at a traffic light in Eastleigh a few weeks ago. The police women even looked up at me and continued to text! Also, I was following an unmarked skoda last night along bevois valley rd heading toward town. He was tailgating the car in front and I mean really close. He kept swinging out to try and intimidate the driver. Eventually they turned off and he absolutely floored it down past the hobbit until he came behind another car and did the same! I pulled up behind them at the lights near British gas and was so tempted to give him the wan#*er sign!

All drivers should be concentrating 100% at all times.
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We need to stop people using mobile phones while driving. A number of deaths have been attributed to people using mobile phones while driving. My suggestion is a £2000 fine and automatic 28 days ban every time that you are caught.

Niel wrote:

Lambo1976 wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

No, but distracted drivers do some very stupid things without looking properly, add in prat nav's telling them to do something and they do that without looking at all, assuming they can even see the road properly! Prat nav centre of screen screen can't see the pavement, children especially are hidden, to the right by the A pillar and you can loose a car, let alone a bike, or one taxi driver who I saw who had a lap-top GPS directly infront of him, looking round it to see the road!

The queue's on the M27 are revealing, texting is common, phones as phones to, and Kindle's are replacing paperbacks, but not the broadsheets yet!!!

The Slav also hit on one of the biggest problems, smoking, ok if you must fine, USE YOUR ASHTRAY, not the road or other people's faces, riding in traffic isn't much fun with fag ash in your eyes!

You are taking the p*ss. I've never tried to read anything so badly written before. Why post if you can't be bothered to make yourself understood ? Remember, all taxpayers pay/paid for your education, and we deserve a bit more respect.

BillyTheKid wrote:

Niel wrote:

Lambo1976 wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

and how many accidents because of it talking on phone dose not make you loose your eye sight to see where you are going whats the difference between talking on a phone or talking in the car none next we will be fining everyone who don't use two hands at ten to two position

No, but distracted drivers do some very stupid things without looking properly, add in prat nav's telling them to do something and they do that without looking at all, assuming they can even see the road properly! Prat nav centre of screen screen can't see the pavement, children especially are hidden, to the right by the A pillar and you can loose a car, let alone a bike, or one taxi driver who I saw who had a lap-top GPS directly infront of him, looking round it to see the road!

The queue's on the M27 are revealing, texting is common, phones as phones to, and Kindle's are replacing paperbacks, but not the broadsheets yet!!!

The Slav also hit on one of the biggest problems, smoking, ok if you must fine, USE YOUR ASHTRAY, not the road or other people's faces, riding in traffic isn't much fun with fag ash in your eyes!

You are taking the p*ss. I've never tried to read anything so badly written before. Why post if you can't be bothered to make yourself understood ? Remember, all taxpayers pay/paid for your education, and we deserve a bit more respect.

My comment is directed solely at Niel, or Nile as he probably spells it sometimes.

Who is "The Slav" ? LOL !

Dont get me started about the police wasting time and money ,they only do anything if theres a fine attatched ,you go to them with a proper crime i/e damage to a vehicle caused by so spotty scrote they dont want to know !!!

Cue the typical moaners going on about a waste of taxpayers money/police time etc.

Morons.

What do any of you know about it?

In my experience, the only people who have a problem with the police and what they do, aside from criminals, are the ones who are caught out doing something they knew they shouldn't be doing anyway. Tough luck losers.

Too many people have the attitude that they can just do what they like or act like they are above the laws they have deemed are unnecessary for them. They are the ones who have the audacity to complain and moan when they are asked to stop. Should it really that big of a deal when you are asked, by someone in authority, to stop doing something you shouldn't be doing anyway?

Sorry if you've been a victim of a crime and "nothing" was done. Have you ever considered that it was because there wasn't any evidence? What do you expect?

Perhaps we should be asking whether the police should bother spending time investigating petty crime like minor shopliftings or thefts where the owners were completely careless with their own property. That seems like a bigger waste of time. As usual though, it's always someone else's fault.

I should avoid the Daily Echo comments sections. All it proves time and time again is what I already know; that human beings are utter morons and we're all screwed.

reading some of the comments on here show just how much they know.people are killed every year by drivers not paying attention to the road due to reading,smoking and using mobile phones.a couple of years a go a cyclist was killed by a driver on the phone.to put it in context if there is a law then breaking it is a crime no matter how small it is.if you cant do the time or pay the fine ddont do the crime.its not hard to work out i dont want a fine so i will not use my phone.as someone who lost a member of the family to a drink driver on the phone i know what im on about.

sb2012 wrote:

MGRA wrote: another cash-cow operation by the police... it also explodes the myth that they are "under resourced" that is clearly a total joke...

Thats a very fair point if they have time to sit 2 officers in a cab recording and looking out for people on the phone they cannot be that under resourced surely? 68 notices = £5440 in revenue for a 5 day crackdown would of cost more than that surely to fund this operation, is there not more serious crime where resources could be better allocated as this 20% budget cut seems to be such a sore issue for them yet this in my opinion doesnt seem like the best use of police time and taxpayers money

Strange comment. So the police should only investigate things that are going to be cost effective or profitable?

Moorons on their phones result in serious injury and sometime death to other road users, cyclists and pedestrians.

Police should only therefore investigate the most serious of crimes and as for the rest, well, lets just let them get away with it?

Speeding, drink driving, drug driving, petty burgalary, ABH etc - lets just not bother?

gazdance wrote:
Cue the typical moaners going on about a waste of taxpayers money/police time etc.

Morons.

What do any of you know about it?

In my experience, the only people who have a problem with the police and what they do, aside from criminals, are the ones who are caught out doing something they knew they shouldn't be doing anyway. Tough luck losers.

Too many people have the attitude that they can just do what they like or act like they are above the laws they have deemed are unnecessary for them. They are the ones who have the audacity to complain and moan when they are asked to stop. Should it really that big of a deal when you are asked, by someone in authority, to stop doing something you shouldn't be doing anyway?

Sorry if you've been a victim of a crime and "nothing" was done. Have you ever considered that it was because there wasn't any evidence? What do you expect?

Perhaps we should be asking whether the police should bother spending time investigating petty crime like minor shopliftings or thefts where the owners were completely careless with their own property. That seems like a bigger waste of time. As usual though, it's always someone else's fault.

I should avoid the Daily Echo comments sections. All it proves time and time again is what I already know; that human beings are utter morons and we're all screwed.

Feel better after that? :)

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

Offenders should be fined £500 and their phone should be shoved wher the sun dont shine.

acid drop wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

Offenders should be fined £500 and their phone should be shoved wher the sun dont shine.

Manchester?

teamgreen wrote:
reading some of the comments on here show just how much they know.people are killed every year by drivers not paying attention to the road due to reading,smoking and using mobile phones.a couple of years a go a cyclist was killed by a driver on the phone.to put it in context if there is a law then breaking it is a crime no matter how small it is.if you cant do the time or pay the fine ddont do the crime.its not hard to work out i dont want a fine so i will not use my phone.as someone who lost a member of the family to a drink driver on the phone i know what im on about.

Yep was just going to mention this, women driver as well.
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Also there was the truck driver that rear ended and killed a women because he was texting. 2 local stories in the last few years.

teamgreen wrote:
reading some of the comments on here show just how much they know.people are killed every year by drivers not paying attention to the road due to reading,smoking and using mobile phones.a couple of years a go a cyclist was killed by a driver on the phone.to put it in context if there is a law then breaking it is a crime no matter how small it is.if you cant do the time or pay the fine ddont do the crime.its not hard to work out i dont want a fine so i will not use my phone.as someone who lost a member of the family to a drink driver on the phone i know what im on about.

Not to downplay what a terrible loss you suffered, but why does that make you more qualified to discuss this than the rest of us?

bigfella777 wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

But do you see 80 accidents? No

One accident caused by a driver on a mobile phone is one too many.

So many posters on here stating that this is a waste of police resources. Would they feel the same if one of their loved ones was killed by someone using a mobile driving

bigfella777 wrote:

The Salv wrote:
Not enough arrests! I must see 80 people a week driving whilst using their mobile phones.

But do you see 80 accidents? No

and that makes ok

Driving and talking on the 'phone is clearly a judgeme call. Sometimes it is low risk. Problem is; people make bad judgements so law has to intervene. We all managed before the cell phone became available!

Next crackdown please on idiot cyclist on their phones, wearing ipod earphones, wearing hoodies with the hood up etc.

geoff51 wrote:
Next crackdown please on idiot cyclist on their phones, wearing ipod earphones, wearing hoodies with the hood up etc.

Why wearing headphones? Do you know how load Ipod earphones go? If you had one you would know not very load and you would never blank out the road noise. What needs to be done is limit the decibels from car stereo's and make that illegal to blast out some of the shocken music that these kids play these days.

Why dont they concentrate on the foriegn taxi drivers that keep doing uturns on Portswood High Road to the taxi rank the number of near misses amazes me no one has been killed.Then after sorting that out they could do Tomas lewis Way beauty high road and coffee drinking then they would'nt have to waste tax payers money driving endlessly up and down the motorways when most accidents when cuased are in built up areas.

bobbyboy wrote:
Why dont they concentrate on the foriegn taxi drivers that keep doing uturns on Portswood High Road to the taxi rank the number of near misses amazes me no one has been killed.Then after sorting that out they could do Tomas lewis Way beauty high road and coffee drinking then they would'nt have to waste tax payers money driving endlessly up and down the motorways when most accidents when cuased are in built up areas.

"Do Thomas Lewis Way beauty high road and coffee drinking". Lolwut? Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Billy Huff wrote:

teamgreen wrote: reading some of the comments on here show just how much they know.people are killed every year by drivers not paying attention to the road due to reading,smoking and using mobile phones.a couple of years a go a cyclist was killed by a driver on the phone.to put it in context if there is a law then breaking it is a crime no matter how small it is.if you cant do the time or pay the fine ddont do the crime.its not hard to work out i dont want a fine so i will not use my phone.as someone who lost a member of the family to a drink driver on the phone i know what im on about.

Not to downplay what a terrible loss you suffered, but why does that make you more qualified to discuss this than the rest of us?

thank you,i am not more qualified its some of the posters (trolls)on here are very anti police and some crimes dont matter yet a crime is a crime small or large.no phone call is worth a life yet as mentioned on here by bigfella some chose to ignore the law.i hope someday they see and feel what other people have seen or have to explane to the disabled son that his mum has died.

teamgreen wrote:

Billy Huff wrote:

teamgreen wrote: reading some of the comments on here show just how much they know.people are killed every year by drivers not paying attention to the road due to reading,smoking and using mobile phones.a couple of years a go a cyclist was killed by a driver on the phone.to put it in context if there is a law then breaking it is a crime no matter how small it is.if you cant do the time or pay the fine ddont do the crime.its not hard to work out i dont want a fine so i will not use my phone.as someone who lost a member of the family to a drink driver on the phone i know what im on about.

Not to downplay what a terrible loss you suffered, but why does that make you more qualified to discuss this than the rest of us?

thank you,i am not more qualified its some of the posters (trolls)on here are very anti police and some crimes dont matter yet a crime is a crime small or large.no phone call is worth a life yet as mentioned on here by bigfella some chose to ignore the law.i hope someday they see and feel what other people have seen or have to explane to the disabled son that his mum has died.

Err, if you believe they're trolls, what makes you think they're anti-police?

Trolls are "anti" everything, aren't they, Georgem ?

And do you why fun keep making of sentences people can't write right ? and poleasmin are trolls is cos they drive troll cars innit true fact it is innit ?

I've heard of spellcheckers, but where do they get these
c rapchecker programs from ?

Lambo1976 wrote:

dango wrote:

sotonwinch09 wrote:

dango wrote:
does the crackdown mean the police will be prosecuting the police woman I saw on the phone while driving along in a marked Ford Focus the other week? I doubt it.

Did you ring up 101 and report it with the licence plate? No? Oh you probably made it up.

oh yes, that's right, I made it up so I could post about it here and be called a liar, what a tw@t you are.

And also must of us have better things to do then report someone for using a mobile, most people don't get boners over such pathetic things unlike the police! you get your garage broken into and all your things pinched they couldn't give too hoots just take a statement and file it in the bin probably.

could you prove it was a phone. if they were using their radio then she was not breaking any law.

radios, c.b.'s etc are ok to use while driving.

i use a radio when traveling in convoy.

but i think it was only one of those laws where they had to put it in or risk prosicuting police car drivers using their radios as i cant see much difference.