Do you think Jay Rodriguez dived to win Southampton a penalty against Aston Villa?

Do you think J-Rod dived to win penalty against Villa?

Do you think J-Rod dived to win penalty against Villa?

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JAY Rodriguez turned in a superb display against Aston Villa, but there is only one reason the football world is talking about him at the moment.

The penalty which gave Saints the vital win was won by the young striker after he went to ground without any contact from Enda Stevens.

So what do you think? Was it a dive or was Rodriguez just trying to avoid the challenge? Vote below and leave a comment.

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11:55am Mon 14 Jan 13

damoose says...

Ohhh never a penalty ))
Ohhh never a penalty )) damoose
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11:57am Mon 14 Jan 13

damoose says...

I mean sure it was a penalty ))
I mean sure it was a penalty )) damoose
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11:58am Mon 14 Jan 13

InCortesewetrust says...

If j rod never took leg away from the terrible challenge, his leg would be broken in two, if the challenge connected with him then its a red card and a pen, simple as that,
If j rod never took leg away from the terrible challenge, his leg would be broken in two, if the challenge connected with him then its a red card and a pen, simple as that, InCortesewetrust
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12:01pm Mon 14 Jan 13

murfmeister says...

who cares!

3 points! COYR :-)
who cares! 3 points! COYR :-) murfmeister
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12:02pm Mon 14 Jan 13

St Retford says...

Jesus 'H' Christ! Can we stop the self-flagellation just because, for once, a decision went our way? It's like someone at the Echo is really angry about it.

You need to let it go, dude.
Jesus 'H' Christ! Can we stop the self-flagellation just because, for once, a decision went our way? It's like someone at the Echo is really angry about it. You need to let it go, dude. St Retford
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12:09pm Mon 14 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Penalty. Under the laws of the game the ref clearly had grounds to award the penalty. Did J-Rod ask for the penalty when he went down ? no. What was the first thing he said to the villa players ? "I did not dive for a penalty". Why did he go over ? Because he took he ankle out of the way of a potentially bad challenge. Does this compare in anyway to the blatant cheating of Bale/Cole/Suarez ? No. The debate still rages only because Lineker-and-co don't know the laws of the game, and many are assuming there has to be contact for a penalty.
Penalty. Under the laws of the game the ref clearly had grounds to award the penalty. Did J-Rod ask for the penalty when he went down ? no. What was the first thing he said to the villa players ? "I did not dive for a penalty". Why did he go over ? Because he took he ankle out of the way of a potentially bad challenge. Does this compare in anyway to the blatant cheating of Bale/Cole/Suarez ? No. The debate still rages only because Lineker-and-co don't know the laws of the game, and many are assuming there has to be contact for a penalty. MGRA
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12:10pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Jesus 'H' Christ! Can we stop the self-flagellation just because, for once, a decision went our way? It's like someone at the Echo is really angry about it.

You need to let it go, dude.
They're not the only ones, I've just read on Sky that 'Villa will not leave Barcelona'.

Honestly, some people go to very drastic measures to protest when things don't go their way!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Jesus 'H' Christ! Can we stop the self-flagellation just because, for once, a decision went our way? It's like someone at the Echo is really angry about it. You need to let it go, dude.[/p][/quote]They're not the only ones, I've just read on Sky that 'Villa will not leave Barcelona'. Honestly, some people go to very drastic measures to protest when things don't go their way! Strasbourg Saint
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12:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13

since 1885 says...

We finally get a penalty decision go our way and the Echo has to harp on about how lucky we are. We were due it, and rightly we are owed a couple more!
We finally get a penalty decision go our way and the Echo has to harp on about how lucky we are. We were due it, and rightly we are owed a couple more! since 1885
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12:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Nemesisaint says...

Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?
Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident? Nemesisaint
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12:24pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Golden_Salamander says...

I find it interesting that no one has mentioned that shocking tackle on Gaston that happened just before and the Ref took no action against the villa player ! (imo 100% Red card but he took no action).
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I think things balance themselves out over a season e.g.
Mark Halsey was in charge of villa previous league game at Swansea (2-2) where he had 2 big decisions to make, first was a handball by a villa defender on the edge of the pen area which he gave as outside but the TV pictures showed was inside and then he gave villa a "soft pen" in the 87 min when Nathan D was said to have pulled somebody down.
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The last time he did Saints was the wba away game when I believe Saints had a good shout for a penalty supported by a TV replay but Halsey turned it down.
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned that shocking tackle on Gaston that happened just before and the Ref took no action against the villa player ! (imo 100% Red card but he took no action). . I think things balance themselves out over a season e.g. Mark Halsey was in charge of villa previous league game at Swansea (2-2) where he had 2 big decisions to make, first was a handball by a villa defender on the edge of the pen area which he gave as outside but the TV pictures showed was inside and then he gave villa a "soft pen" in the 87 min when Nathan D was said to have pulled somebody down. . The last time he did Saints was the wba away game when I believe Saints had a good shout for a penalty supported by a TV replay but Halsey turned it down. Golden_Salamander
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12:25pm Mon 14 Jan 13

SO50 Saint says...

Who Cares why was this thing not in place after we should have had 2 penalties Vs Swansea or the 1 penalty against Arsenal. We should have had far more pens this season.
Who Cares why was this thing not in place after we should have had 2 penalties Vs Swansea or the 1 penalty against Arsenal. We should have had far more pens this season. SO50 Saint
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12:42pm Mon 14 Jan 13

KingKhan1983 says...

A blatant dive, he knew exactly what he was doing, the ref brought it because it was not one of the usual suspects, i think if it had been bale, suarez etc then the decision would have gone the other way and another booking for diving.
A blatant dive, he knew exactly what he was doing, the ref brought it because it was not one of the usual suspects, i think if it had been bale, suarez etc then the decision would have gone the other way and another booking for diving. KingKhan1983
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1:05pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Little Hitler says...

The opinion coming out of the camp seems to be that it would have been a stone wall penalty if Jay hadn't got his leg out the way first.

So do we say well done for Jay for having the presence of mind to get his foot out the way (avoiding possible injury) and for then taking the fall that would have happened had he not.

Or, do we condemn him for having the presence of mind to get his foot out the way and then not staying up?

I'll vote for the first one please, well done Jay!
The opinion coming out of the camp seems to be that it would have been a stone wall penalty if Jay hadn't got his leg out the way first. So do we say well done for Jay for having the presence of mind to get his foot out the way (avoiding possible injury) and for then taking the fall that would have happened had he not. Or, do we condemn him for having the presence of mind to get his foot out the way and then not staying up? I'll vote for the first one please, well done Jay! Little Hitler
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1:09pm Mon 14 Jan 13

GHamilton says...

I would n't put it in the Gareth Bale class....inward one and a half with tuck; or the Luis Suarez....reverse two and a half with pike. But; when a player costing £6M couldn't hit the side of a bar n from arms length, i can understand him wanting to make a real meaningfull contribution. The problem with such tatics; is that if you might not get a penalty when it is a nailed on penalty and you realy need it. Agree with NA....we were owed!!
I would n't put it in the Gareth Bale class....inward one and a half with tuck; or the Luis Suarez....reverse two and a half with pike. But; when a player costing £6M couldn't hit the side of a bar n from arms length, i can understand him wanting to make a real meaningfull contribution. The problem with such tatics; is that if you might not get a penalty when it is a nailed on penalty and you realy need it. Agree with NA....we were owed!! GHamilton
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1:14pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Linesman says...

If it had been an Aston Villa player, and they had been awarded a penalty, would the reaction be the same on here?

I very much doubt it.

We are all biased about our team an its players.

The unbiased opinion by the vast majority of media pundits and journalists was that it was a dive

The referee thought it was a foul.

Case closed.
If it had been an Aston Villa player, and they had been awarded a penalty, would the reaction be the same on here? I very much doubt it. We are all biased about our team an its players. The unbiased opinion by the vast majority of media pundits and journalists was that it was a dive The referee thought it was a foul. Case closed. Linesman
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1:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Ozmosis says...

Nemesisaint wrote:
Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?
This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault.
[quote][p][bold]Nemesisaint[/bold] wrote: Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?[/p][/quote]This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault. Ozmosis
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1:24pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Velleity says...

Where were the polls about all the uncalled penalties this year? Useless Daily Echo strikes again.

The sooner they realise this is harming the DE's reputation the better.
Where were the polls about all the uncalled penalties this year? Useless Daily Echo strikes again. The sooner they realise this is harming the DE's reputation the better. Velleity
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1:24pm Mon 14 Jan 13

up saints says...

was not a dive was not a penalty but ref only get one look not 300 tv replays.i thought it was a penalty untill i saw the replay.why did the echo bring this subject up no mention of the 6 we should of had earlier in the season
was not a dive was not a penalty but ref only get one look not 300 tv replays.i thought it was a penalty untill i saw the replay.why did the echo bring this subject up no mention of the 6 we should of had earlier in the season up saints
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1:26pm Mon 14 Jan 13

SFCSaint says...

quite frankly the fact that the defender had timed his challenged so poorly and the ball had gone miles past him by the time he made his challenge is worth of a penalty itself!
quite frankly the fact that the defender had timed his challenged so poorly and the ball had gone miles past him by the time he made his challenge is worth of a penalty itself! SFCSaint
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1:27pm Mon 14 Jan 13

SFCSaint says...

Look how far away from the ball he is in the photo miles away! blatant pen COYR we are staying up!!
Look how far away from the ball he is in the photo miles away! blatant pen COYR we are staying up!! SFCSaint
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1:33pm Mon 14 Jan 13

saint Compo says...

It wasn't a penalty. Nor did Rodriguez dive. He had already played the ball but was aware of a lunging tackle coming his way and went down to avoid contact and/or lessen the impact.

The ref didn't see it properly (what's new?!). He was at fault. As others have commented, Saints have been denied several definite penalties this season. For once, we were lucky. We need a few more 'lucky' penalties for things to balance out!

BTW, the recent bookings of Bale and Ba for diving were equally poor refereeing decisions. They were not diving.

COYR
It wasn't a penalty. Nor did Rodriguez dive. He had already played the ball but was aware of a lunging tackle coming his way and went down to avoid contact and/or lessen the impact. The ref didn't see it properly (what's new?!). He was at fault. As others have commented, Saints have been denied several definite penalties this season. For once, we were lucky. We need a few more 'lucky' penalties for things to balance out! BTW, the recent bookings of Bale and Ba for diving were equally poor refereeing decisions. They were not diving. COYR saint Compo
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1:36pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Norwegian Saint says...

Like Poopey... it's just HISTORY... nothing else...
So let's get on with it!
Like Poopey... it's just HISTORY... nothing else... So let's get on with it! Norwegian Saint
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1:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13

willygetaway says...

The question is did we win?
Answer yes we did
question where are we in the fair play league ?
Answer we were top, or there abouts last time i looked
nothing to see here move along
COYR
The question is did we win? Answer yes we did question where are we in the fair play league ? Answer we were top, or there abouts last time i looked nothing to see here move along COYR willygetaway
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2:28pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Rising_Son says...

It wasn't a dive. He went down trying to avoid a foot. How a referee interprets that is up to the referee. Agree or disagree as much as you like with him, it's his call.
It wasn't a dive. He went down trying to avoid a foot. How a referee interprets that is up to the referee. Agree or disagree as much as you like with him, it's his call. Rising_Son
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2:32pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Costa Baz says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I find it interesting that no one has mentioned that shocking tackle on Gaston that happened just before and the Ref took no action against the villa player ! (imo 100% Red card but he took no action).
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I think things balance themselves out over a season e.g.
Mark Halsey was in charge of villa previous league game at Swansea (2-2) where he had 2 big decisions to make, first was a handball by a villa defender on the edge of the pen area which he gave as outside but the TV pictures showed was inside and then he gave villa a "soft pen" in the 87 min when Nathan D was said to have pulled somebody down.
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The last time he did Saints was the wba away game when I believe Saints had a good shout for a penalty supported by a TV replay but Halsey turned it down.
He was also told 4 times, by the 4th official, about a handball in the build up to the WBA first goal, yet took no action.

He owed us and one of his debts has now been paid.

If, as they say, these things even themselves out over the course of the season, we can look forward to a few more dubious decisions going in our favour, as we are owed quite a few.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I find it interesting that no one has mentioned that shocking tackle on Gaston that happened just before and the Ref took no action against the villa player ! (imo 100% Red card but he took no action). . I think things balance themselves out over a season e.g. Mark Halsey was in charge of villa previous league game at Swansea (2-2) where he had 2 big decisions to make, first was a handball by a villa defender on the edge of the pen area which he gave as outside but the TV pictures showed was inside and then he gave villa a "soft pen" in the 87 min when Nathan D was said to have pulled somebody down. . The last time he did Saints was the wba away game when I believe Saints had a good shout for a penalty supported by a TV replay but Halsey turned it down.[/p][/quote]He was also told 4 times, by the 4th official, about a handball in the build up to the WBA first goal, yet took no action. He owed us and one of his debts has now been paid. If, as they say, these things even themselves out over the course of the season, we can look forward to a few more dubious decisions going in our favour, as we are owed quite a few. Costa Baz
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3:32pm Mon 14 Jan 13

El Santo says...

Ozmosis wrote:
Nemesisaint wrote:
Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?
This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault.
There is no advantage in penalties...at least last time I checked.
[quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nemesisaint[/bold] wrote: Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?[/p][/quote]This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault.[/p][/quote]There is no advantage in penalties...at least last time I checked. El Santo
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6:21pm Mon 14 Jan 13

Wheeled1 says...

Nemesisaint wrote:
Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?
The FA rules state that a free kick is given where a player kicks (or attempts to kick) an opponent, or trips (or attempts to trip) an opponent in a manner considered by the ref to be careless or reckless. If Mark Halsey thought the Villa player was attempting to trip Jay Rod (i.e. there was intent), he gives a free kick, and as in the penalty area, a penalty.

As others have said, Saints have not got numerous pens this season, so we are due one, even if the media etc say it was dubious.
[quote][p][bold]Nemesisaint[/bold] wrote: Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?[/p][/quote]The FA rules state that a free kick is given where a player kicks (or attempts to kick) an opponent, or trips (or attempts to trip) an opponent in a manner considered by the ref to be careless or reckless. If Mark Halsey thought the Villa player was attempting to trip Jay Rod (i.e. there was intent), he gives a free kick, and as in the penalty area, a penalty. As others have said, Saints have not got numerous pens this season, so we are due one, even if the media etc say it was dubious. Wheeled1
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6:25pm Mon 14 Jan 13

bigfella777 says...

What, so it's alright for your Man U's and Chelsea's to do it week in week out I suppose.
Man U's second goal yesterday was a disgrace not to mention all the other stuff that went on.
What, so it's alright for your Man U's and Chelsea's to do it week in week out I suppose. Man U's second goal yesterday was a disgrace not to mention all the other stuff that went on. bigfella777
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6:49pm Mon 14 Jan 13

SupportTheSaints says...

This is getting boring now!

I love how Pompey fans on twitter say Saints are cheats but they brought the F.A cup HAHAHA bloody SkateyScummers
This is getting boring now! I love how Pompey fans on twitter say Saints are cheats but they brought the F.A cup HAHAHA bloody SkateyScummers SupportTheSaints
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6:52pm Mon 14 Jan 13

saint Compo says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Like Poopey... it's just HISTORY... nothing else...
So let's get on with it!
Pompey's game last Saturday was postponed due to a waterlogged pitch caused by Pompey fans' tears.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Like Poopey... it's just HISTORY... nothing else... So let's get on with it![/p][/quote]Pompey's game last Saturday was postponed due to a waterlogged pitch caused by Pompey fans' tears. saint Compo
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8:24am Tue 15 Jan 13

Ozmosis says...

El Santo wrote:
Ozmosis wrote:
Nemesisaint wrote:
Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?
This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault.
There is no advantage in penalties...at least last time I checked.
In this case I'm glad there was ;-)
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ozmosis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nemesisaint[/bold] wrote: Has anyone confirmed with Mark Halsey what he saw? I was under the impression that the Penalty was given for Guzmans challenge on Jason Puncheon, not for the JRod incident?[/p][/quote]This. The ref had been playing advantage numerous times, and calling play back when it wasn't taken. In fact, the Radio Solent commentators were complaining that it was disrupting the flow of the game. Therefore it's highly likely that this was the case here, and Guzman is the person at fault.[/p][/quote]There is no advantage in penalties...at least last time I checked.[/p][/quote]In this case I'm glad there was ;-) Ozmosis
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9:45am Tue 15 Jan 13

Nemesisaint says...

I can remember many years ago, a Saints winger doing his characteristic jinking run towards the goal, he was clearly tripped, but on landing he did a sort of doggy crawl,which resulted in him ending up in the Penalty area, everyone else just stood watching and having hysterics, no accusation of cheating just a good laugh all around, that player was Terry Paine!
I can remember many years ago, a Saints winger doing his characteristic jinking run towards the goal, he was clearly tripped, but on landing he did a sort of doggy crawl,which resulted in him ending up in the Penalty area, everyone else just stood watching and having hysterics, no accusation of cheating just a good laugh all around, that player was Terry Paine! Nemesisaint
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5:33pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Newburian says...

Until it is established what the penalty was given for you cannot really comment. I, like a few others, thought the Ref had awarded it for a foul by the goalkeeper on Puncheon. allowed advantage and pulled play back when there was none.. The whole thing has got twisted leaving poor old JR to look like a villain. Perhaps The Echo should put the question to the official concerned.
Until it is established what the penalty was given for you cannot really comment. I, like a few others, thought the Ref had awarded it for a foul by the goalkeeper on Puncheon. allowed advantage and pulled play back when there was none.. The whole thing has got twisted leaving poor old JR to look like a villain. Perhaps The Echo should put the question to the official concerned. Newburian
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