Triple target for Saints

Daily Echo: Leandro Damião Leandro Damião

Mauricio Pochettino has revealed that a deal for Victor Wanyama is not dead, while he has also confirmed Saints’ interest in Éver Banega and Leandro Damião.

A £12m fee was agreed for Celtic midfielder Wanyama last month, only for talks to stall when personal terms were being discussed with the player and his agents.

Saints boss Pochettino insists the transfer could still happen, but it is understood that it will only go ahead if the 22-year-old’s representatives alter their stance.Saints are known to be unhappy with the tactics used during negotiations, with one report recently claiming Wanyama’s agents had asked for a £1m payment to complete the deal.

Chairman Nicola Cortese has made it clear the club will not proceed unless there is a change in approach from the Kenyan international’s side.

Pochettino said: “It could happen. We have certain positions that we want to reinforce. I’m confident that our goals will be met.”

The Saints boss added: “The main thing is that we as a club are managing when these negotiations happen, so that is what is happening. We are managing when these players are going to be signed and how we sign them.” Pochettino, speaking at the start of pre-season, confirmed that the club did also have an interest in Valencia midfielder Banega and Brazilian international Damião, both reported targets.

Argentinean ace Banega would appear to be another option should Wanyama not prove possible, while £20m-rated Internacional striker Damião would not only be a new record signing but also a major addition to the forward line – an area Saints have made a priority to strengthen this summer.

However, Brazilian side Internacional maintain that they have not yet received an offer from anyone for the 23-year-old.

Pochettino, who has previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season, said: “We manage a lot of information about very good players. One of them is Damião, also Banega and Wanyama. We are managing the situation as well as we can at the moment.

“Our goals are very clear. We are not interested in 15 or 20 players. We are interested in maybe two or three key players.

“At the same time, I also want to say our squad at the moment is really good and it is not like we are trapped in the sense that we need these players to be a better squad.

“Our squad, as it is, is really good already, but we just want to bring in two or three players that reinforce key areas in the squad to become an even better team.”

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6:33am Fri 5 Jul 13

Saint_ bezzer says...

With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all!
With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all! Saint_ bezzer

7:11am Fri 5 Jul 13

HarrytheHorse33 says...

If this is the case it gives us a clear idea what we are after. Hope there is enough strength in depth though to cover injuries and suspensions as it is clear several squad players are likely to move on who didn't feature last season.
If this is the case it gives us a clear idea what we are after. Hope there is enough strength in depth though to cover injuries and suspensions as it is clear several squad players are likely to move on who didn't feature last season. HarrytheHorse33

7:12am Fri 5 Jul 13

saintgibbo says...

Did i not read the same story on the previos article? Same story different headline! I blame Guly..
Did i not read the same story on the previos article? Same story different headline! I blame Guly.. saintgibbo

7:21am Fri 5 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

It's a bit unusual fo anyone at SMS to identify potential targets Did the Don sanction this revalation?
It's a bit unusual fo anyone at SMS to identify potential targets Did the Don sanction this revalation? Saintsayer II

7:27am Fri 5 Jul 13

rossofficial10 says...

Why Guly is still in the plans and the players mentioned above dont get a look in is beyond me.

ok, Maybe Guly might score 30 goals next season and surprise us all.

lol

or more like Guly might struggle to get 30 mins on the pitch!
Why Guly is still in the plans and the players mentioned above dont get a look in is beyond me. ok, Maybe Guly might score 30 goals next season and surprise us all. lol or more like Guly might struggle to get 30 mins on the pitch! rossofficial10

8:06am Fri 5 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Bless him .......... as long as we all get behind him !!!!

Exciting times if we could pick up 2 out of three ......
Bless him .......... as long as we all get behind him !!!! Exciting times if we could pick up 2 out of three ...... Buddy SFC

8:25am Fri 5 Jul 13

EindhovenSaint says...

God I hope this comes true, would prefer a winger over Wanyama, but you never know!
God I hope this comes true, would prefer a winger over Wanyama, but you never know! EindhovenSaint

8:26am Fri 5 Jul 13

boilerman says...

I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about. boilerman

8:30am Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:34am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
I think the plan is to bring young 'home-grown' (but not necessarily English) in through the academy.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]I think the plan is to bring young 'home-grown' (but not necessarily English) in through the academy. Rising_Son

8:51am Fri 5 Jul 13

Tubbystubb says...

Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

http://www.dailyreco
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Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320 Tubbystubb

8:56am Fri 5 Jul 13

boilerman says...

Tubbystubb wrote:
Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

http://www.dailyreco

rd.co.uk/sport/footb

all/football-transfe

r-news/southampton-f

avourites-snap-up-12

million-2027320
We offered 12 million they offered 10.
If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.
[quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320[/p][/quote]We offered 12 million they offered 10. If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football. boilerman

8:59am Fri 5 Jul 13

Media Saint says...

Wanyama although young and represented by people who have intellects akin to a warlord would make good sense because the re-sale we might get, I think 30million +.

If this premonition turns out to be true think of the PR for us. 'Barcelona sign 30mil Saint'....

The club stature and brand would go through the roof and that in its self would help us land the players we deserve.

Thinking in this way makes me realise how far we have come. We keep who we want to keep and we sell for the price that is right.

This thought makes me smile.
Wanyama although young and represented by people who have intellects akin to a warlord would make good sense because the re-sale we might get, I think 30million +. If this premonition turns out to be true think of the PR for us. 'Barcelona sign 30mil Saint'.... The club stature and brand would go through the roof and that in its self would help us land the players we deserve. Thinking in this way makes me realise how far we have come. We keep who we want to keep and we sell for the price that is right. This thought makes me smile. Media Saint

9:13am Fri 5 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

boilerman wrote:
Tubbystubb wrote:
Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

http://www.dailyreco


rd.co.uk/sport/footb


all/football-transfe


r-news/southampton-f


avourites-snap-up-12


million-2027320
We offered 12 million they offered 10.
If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.
He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320[/p][/quote]We offered 12 million they offered 10. If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.[/p][/quote]He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player. Santa Retfordia

9:14am Fri 5 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new.

The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile.

My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.
There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new. The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile. My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get. Alicesdad

9:16am Fri 5 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Saint_ bezzer wrote:
With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all!
Innit. I'm glad I'm not running the club. The fans would be all "Dude, how come all our players are in their 60s?" and I'd be all "Sorry, but I just couldn't be arsed with all the admin of signing anyone new - it's a major ballache."
[quote][p][bold]Saint_ bezzer[/bold] wrote: With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all![/p][/quote]Innit. I'm glad I'm not running the club. The fans would be all "Dude, how come all our players are in their 60s?" and I'd be all "Sorry, but I just couldn't be arsed with all the admin of signing anyone new - it's a major ballache." Santa Retfordia

9:19am Fri 5 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Alicesdad wrote:
There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new.

The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile.

My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.
He held a press conference yesterday innit.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new. The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile. My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.[/p][/quote]He held a press conference yesterday innit. Santa Retfordia

9:25am Fri 5 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Spot on. He does plenty enough in training to be included in match day squads; and again, to push others to perform and work to keep their places. easy to forget that.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Spot on. He does plenty enough in training to be included in match day squads; and again, to push others to perform and work to keep their places. easy to forget that. right back in the bar

9:33am Fri 5 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
spot on
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]spot on Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child

9:38am Fri 5 Jul 13

Sainty saint saint says...

boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'! Sainty saint saint

9:41am Fri 5 Jul 13

business-guru says...

Saint_ bezzer wrote:
With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all!
third party ownership is not allowed under FIFA/UEFA/FA rules. so thats not an issue. Third party agents who are trying to cream of millions for doing absolutely nothing on the other hand is allowed but its upto clubs ( like Saints did ) to tell those players to get lost. What happened to tevez and mach' under their 3rd party ownership actually was illegal to the point in some countries that it was covered under slavery laws.
[quote][p][bold]Saint_ bezzer[/bold] wrote: With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all![/p][/quote]third party ownership is not allowed under FIFA/UEFA/FA rules. so thats not an issue. Third party agents who are trying to cream of millions for doing absolutely nothing on the other hand is allowed but its upto clubs ( like Saints did ) to tell those players to get lost. What happened to tevez and mach' under their 3rd party ownership actually was illegal to the point in some countries that it was covered under slavery laws. business-guru

9:48am Fri 5 Jul 13

Cheapshot says...

http://www.saintsfc.
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9.aspx?

Good read if you haven't looked at it already. refreshingly open story...especially on the OS!
http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/m anager-eyes-more-qua lity-additions-89628 9.aspx? Good read if you haven't looked at it already. refreshingly open story...especially on the OS! Cheapshot

9:52am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

business-guru wrote:
Saint_ bezzer wrote:
With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all!
third party ownership is not allowed under FIFA/UEFA/FA rules. so thats not an issue. Third party agents who are trying to cream of millions for doing absolutely nothing on the other hand is allowed but its upto clubs ( like Saints did ) to tell those players to get lost. What happened to tevez and mach' under their 3rd party ownership actually was illegal to the point in some countries that it was covered under slavery laws.
The options are to tell the third party agents to get lost, bypass the third party agents and talk to the player directly or pay the agents.
[quote][p][bold]business-guru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint_ bezzer[/bold] wrote: With complex contracts, agents fee's and third party ownership issues it's difficult to see how any transfers are completed at all![/p][/quote]third party ownership is not allowed under FIFA/UEFA/FA rules. so thats not an issue. Third party agents who are trying to cream of millions for doing absolutely nothing on the other hand is allowed but its upto clubs ( like Saints did ) to tell those players to get lost. What happened to tevez and mach' under their 3rd party ownership actually was illegal to the point in some countries that it was covered under slavery laws.[/p][/quote]The options are to tell the third party agents to get lost, bypass the third party agents and talk to the player directly or pay the agents. Rising_Son

9:52am Fri 5 Jul 13

alan.of.eastleigh says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Ramirez mentioned Guly in an interview last season as one of the most talented players at the club. Given his age though, I see him more as a battling midfielder than an out and out goal scorer. Certainly at Spurs toward the end of the season the opposition were very relieved when he got subbed with an injury. He pretty much stopped them getting a run of passes together.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Ramirez mentioned Guly in an interview last season as one of the most talented players at the club. Given his age though, I see him more as a battling midfielder than an out and out goal scorer. Certainly at Spurs toward the end of the season the opposition were very relieved when he got subbed with an injury. He pretty much stopped them getting a run of passes together. alan.of.eastleigh

10:02am Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
boilerman wrote:
Tubbystubb wrote:
Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

http://www.dailyreco



rd.co.uk/sport/footb



all/football-transfe



r-news/southampton-f



avourites-snap-up-12



million-2027320
We offered 12 million they offered 10.
If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.
He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player.
Nice to see this subtle repositioning now it appears not to be a dead deal :)
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320[/p][/quote]We offered 12 million they offered 10. If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.[/p][/quote]He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player.[/p][/quote]Nice to see this subtle repositioning now it appears not to be a dead deal :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:03am Fri 5 Jul 13

Saint. says...

Love the bit when MP talks about Victor and anyone else saying

"We are Southampton, we don't get dictated too"

Priceless and true!
Love the bit when MP talks about Victor and anyone else saying "We are Southampton, we don't get dictated too" Priceless and true! Saint.

10:03am Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:30am Fri 5 Jul 13

Saintsayer II says...

Alicesdad wrote:
There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new.

The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile.

My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.
I think he mentioned these 3 players in his first press cponference but I couldn't be bothered to listen to the whole thing as he is still using an interpretor
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new. The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile. My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.[/p][/quote]I think he mentioned these 3 players in his first press cponference but I couldn't be bothered to listen to the whole thing as he is still using an interpretor Saintsayer II

10:31am Fri 5 Jul 13

Licky_Rambert says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.
cant help but feel arsenal and chelsea are bad examples too
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.[/p][/quote]cant help but feel arsenal and chelsea are bad examples too Licky_Rambert

10:32am Fri 5 Jul 13

Santa Retfordia says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
boilerman wrote:
Tubbystubb wrote:
Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

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We offered 12 million they offered 10.
If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.
He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player.
Nice to see this subtle repositioning now it appears not to be a dead deal :)
Oi! I've been thoroughly consistent on this. I've always said we should sign him and should disregard any tittle tattle about 'agents' and all that jazz.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320[/p][/quote]We offered 12 million they offered 10. If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.[/p][/quote]He played against Barcelona in the Champions League and was exceptional throughout. He's a very, very good player.[/p][/quote]Nice to see this subtle repositioning now it appears not to be a dead deal :)[/p][/quote]Oi! I've been thoroughly consistent on this. I've always said we should sign him and should disregard any tittle tattle about 'agents' and all that jazz. Santa Retfordia

10:33am Fri 5 Jul 13

Folkestone Saint says...

boilerman wrote:
Tubbystubb wrote:
Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record.
(hope he come with a badge)

http://www.dailyreco


rd.co.uk/sport/footb


all/football-transfe


r-news/southampton-f


avourites-snap-up-12


million-2027320
We offered 12 million they offered 10.
If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.
I know what you mean about the price BM, but most of our team played divi 1 and we were saying will they make the grade in the Championship, they did, then the same about playing in the Prem, again they did, so if this guy is worth £12m playing non-competative football, how good will he be playing for a good side in the best league.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: Seems we're favourites to sign VW now as Cardiff have pulled out of a deal, according to todays Daily Record. (hope he come with a badge) http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/southampton-f avourites-snap-up-12 million-2027320[/p][/quote]We offered 12 million they offered 10. If we do get him I hope we pay 10 and even that is way too much for a guy who has only played championship standard football.[/p][/quote]I know what you mean about the price BM, but most of our team played divi 1 and we were saying will they make the grade in the Championship, they did, then the same about playing in the Prem, again they did, so if this guy is worth £12m playing non-competative football, how good will he be playing for a good side in the best league. Folkestone Saint

11:03am Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now.
Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR!
Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now. Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR! Crispinmumbles

11:12am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now.
Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR!
And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'?
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now. Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR![/p][/quote]And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'? Rising_Son

11:12am Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now.
Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR!
And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'?
Guly told me so.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now. Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR![/p][/quote]And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'?[/p][/quote]Guly told me so. Crispinmumbles

11:21am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now.
Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR!
And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'?
Guly told me so.
And how does he know?
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: Uhm, am I correct in thinking that we only have one right back and our cover for Shaw is Fox or mystery man Forren. Is this not a key area which needs looking at? Signing the players that have been mentioned would be great but I don't think I believe our transfer and salary budgets are big enough and suspect they would only be interested in teams that are competing in Europe now. Plus a bunch of foreign mercenaries doesn't guarantee success, ask QPR![/p][/quote]And how exactly do you know they would be 'mercenaries'?[/p][/quote]Guly told me so.[/p][/quote]And how does he know? Rising_Son

11:22am Fri 5 Jul 13

Sainty saint saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.
Yes of course, and S Davis is N Irish, but I was just picking out the Brits (although I know that doesn't help with the 'English football in crisis' issue!)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.[/p][/quote]Yes of course, and S Davis is N Irish, but I was just picking out the Brits (although I know that doesn't help with the 'English football in crisis' issue!) Sainty saint saint

11:23am Fri 5 Jul 13

SiamSaint says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
S Davis is from Norn Iron.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]S Davis is from Norn Iron. SiamSaint

11:23am Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

To be a little more serious, most footballers are these days however home grown players enjoy the life down here. In Spain, South American players are famous for being money motivated and look and the examples in the Prem:- Suarez, Tevez and Robinho hardly showed much loyalty to their clubs.
With Wanyama, I think from what we've heard that his camp's financial demands show he's not going to come here for the love of football.
To be a little more serious, most footballers are these days however home grown players enjoy the life down here. In Spain, South American players are famous for being money motivated and look and the examples in the Prem:- Suarez, Tevez and Robinho hardly showed much loyalty to their clubs. With Wanyama, I think from what we've heard that his camp's financial demands show he's not going to come here for the love of football. Crispinmumbles

11:28am Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there.

If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players.

He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.
When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there. If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players. He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:29am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here. Rising_Son

11:29am Fri 5 Jul 13

ash_ says...

Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season!
Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season! ash_

11:31am Fri 5 Jul 13

boilerman says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Good point, but how many will get a game if we sign for example 3 or 4 foreign players?
I am not against foreign signings as the good one's do improve the football.
But there has to be a balance.
Originally the criteria for signing an overseas player was they had to be better than home grown talent, while a lot of them are , there are an awful lot who are just run of the mill.
If clubs carry on signing any foreign player and the numbers keep increasing then the chance for home grown talent will be even less.
I think it is a downwards spiral which should be looked at.
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Good point, but how many will get a game if we sign for example 3 or 4 foreign players? I am not against foreign signings as the good one's do improve the football. But there has to be a balance. Originally the criteria for signing an overseas player was they had to be better than home grown talent, while a lot of them are , there are an awful lot who are just run of the mill. If clubs carry on signing any foreign player and the numbers keep increasing then the chance for home grown talent will be even less. I think it is a downwards spiral which should be looked at. boilerman

11:34am Fri 5 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new.

The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile.

My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.
He held a press conference yesterday innit.
Innit ? Thanks for the update. Oh well ... I take it all back .....
or maybe not all of it .. if this was a press conference then MP has mastered the art of saying nothing but making it sound like news. His English must be comng on in leaps and bounds. It may not be the knitting of old comments by the Echo, so apologies for that comment (what could I possibly have been thinking) ... but as I suspected there is still no news. The £10 is as safe as houses.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: There is no news here. Nothing has changed. The only difference is that Pochettino has made a few comments but nothing substantial. Where and when did he make these comments? I supsect this is the Echo knitting a number of disparate quotes from a longer period of time to make it sound new. The article also says Poch has "previously indicated he would like to mount a charge for Europe this season" That is simply not true. He has not said that. Anyone who saw the interview and read the initial reports knows that Poch was commenting about ambitions for the club going forward and that comment was made with a broad smile. My £10 bet on "no signings this week" is as sure a bet as you can get.[/p][/quote]He held a press conference yesterday innit.[/p][/quote]Innit ? Thanks for the update. Oh well ... I take it all back ..... or maybe not all of it .. if this was a press conference then MP has mastered the art of saying nothing but making it sound like news. His English must be comng on in leaps and bounds. It may not be the knitting of old comments by the Echo, so apologies for that comment (what could I possibly have been thinking) ... but as I suspected there is still no news. The £10 is as safe as houses. Alicesdad

11:35am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

boilerman wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Good point, but how many will get a game if we sign for example 3 or 4 foreign players?
I am not against foreign signings as the good one's do improve the football.
But there has to be a balance.
Originally the criteria for signing an overseas player was they had to be better than home grown talent, while a lot of them are , there are an awful lot who are just run of the mill.
If clubs carry on signing any foreign player and the numbers keep increasing then the chance for home grown talent will be even less.
I think it is a downwards spiral which should be looked at.
And you think Saints should be the ones to save England?
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Good point, but how many will get a game if we sign for example 3 or 4 foreign players? I am not against foreign signings as the good one's do improve the football. But there has to be a balance. Originally the criteria for signing an overseas player was they had to be better than home grown talent, while a lot of them are , there are an awful lot who are just run of the mill. If clubs carry on signing any foreign player and the numbers keep increasing then the chance for home grown talent will be even less. I think it is a downwards spiral which should be looked at.[/p][/quote]And you think Saints should be the ones to save England? Rising_Son

11:41am Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Rising_Son wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid
you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.[/p][/quote]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim. Crispinmumbles

11:44am Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ash_ wrote:
Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season!
I can't see anyone coming here (that's better than our current backup) to warm the bench when they have two England U21 internationals ahead of them.

Our signings need to strengthen the starting 11.
[quote][p][bold]ash_[/bold] wrote: Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season![/p][/quote]I can't see anyone coming here (that's better than our current backup) to warm the bench when they have two England U21 internationals ahead of them. Our signings need to strengthen the starting 11. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:45am Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid
you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.
I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.[/p][/quote]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.[/p][/quote]I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries? Rising_Son

12:10pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans.

Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in.

And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans. Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in. And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us? Costa Baz

12:30pm Fri 5 Jul 13

slugger says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there.

If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players.

He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.
You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there. If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players. He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.[/p][/quote]You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 . slugger

12:44pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.
Yea but all Sweetie socks are ok and part of the gang when there doing well ..................
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.[/p][/quote]Yea but all Sweetie socks are ok and part of the gang when there doing well .................. Buddy SFC

12:44pm Fri 5 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans.

Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in.

And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?
yep - those 'fans' probably only see him at home games; most of his better performances have been away from home. there is no question in my mind he is a good footballer - but mentally brittle maybe.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans. Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in. And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?[/p][/quote]yep - those 'fans' probably only see him at home games; most of his better performances have been away from home. there is no question in my mind he is a good footballer - but mentally brittle maybe. right back in the bar

12:46pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Thornhill Saint says...

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Ramirez mentioned Guly in an interview last season as one of the most talented players at the club. Given his age though, I see him more as a battling midfielder than an out and out goal scorer. Certainly at Spurs toward the end of the season the opposition were very relieved when he got subbed with an injury. He pretty much stopped them getting a run of passes together.
Strangely enough before the Sunderland game Paolo Di Canio mentioned him as well.

“People like (Adam) Lallana, (Guly) do Prado, and the two up front are dangerous players.”
[quote][p][bold]alan.of.eastleigh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Ramirez mentioned Guly in an interview last season as one of the most talented players at the club. Given his age though, I see him more as a battling midfielder than an out and out goal scorer. Certainly at Spurs toward the end of the season the opposition were very relieved when he got subbed with an injury. He pretty much stopped them getting a run of passes together.[/p][/quote]Strangely enough before the Sunderland game Paolo Di Canio mentioned him as well. “People like (Adam) Lallana, (Guly) do Prado, and the two up front are dangerous players.” Thornhill Saint

1:08pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there.

If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players.

He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.
You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 .
This is true. Well 'fell in the fire' rather than 'hit the wall' might be more accurate...
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there. If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players. He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.[/p][/quote]You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 .[/p][/quote]This is true. Well 'fell in the fire' rather than 'hit the wall' might be more accurate... Seedhouse the Unrepentant

1:41pm Fri 5 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there.

If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players.

He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.
why didn't you have a word with him about making some decent F1 tyres! mind you the British grand prix was interesting.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there. If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players. He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.[/p][/quote]why didn't you have a word with him about making some decent F1 tyres! mind you the British grand prix was interesting. el caballo santos101

1:47pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Mush On The Beach says...

ash_ wrote:
Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season!
Agreed. If only life was that easy.
[quote][p][bold]ash_[/bold] wrote: Sign all 3 and backup fullback to cover Shaw and Clyne, then I'll be totally happy for the coming season![/p][/quote]Agreed. If only life was that easy. Mush On The Beach

1:48pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Mush On The Beach says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
slugger wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there.

If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players.

He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.
You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 .
This is true. Well 'fell in the fire' rather than 'hit the wall' might be more accurate...
Lightweight.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: When I was at Le Mans I met the logistics manager of Michelin who is a big Liverpool fan and well connected at the club. He sang Cortese's praises saying he wasn't one for giving up. According to him we not only outbid Liverpool for Coutinho's services but we also bettered their personal terms. It was only Liverpool's greater history that saw him go there. If that's true then that is properly amazing and belies a lot of assumptions on here regarding what we are prepared to pay players. He seemed totally genuine but I had been on the p!ss for a full 14 hours and the fact I was still standing deserves a special award imho.[/p][/quote]You did hit "the wall" on Thursday though ........ 9/10 .[/p][/quote]This is true. Well 'fell in the fire' rather than 'hit the wall' might be more accurate...[/p][/quote]Lightweight. Mush On The Beach

2:08pm Fri 5 Jul 13

st1halo says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans.

Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in.

And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?
Your point about Guly is a good one. I hold my hand up and admit that I have criticised him (I am not a hater though). Seedhouse makes a valid case in that three managers recognise his ability so wtf are we to disagree. My hope is that, whether it's being played out of his position, the transition to the PL or just a lack of belief in himself, he manages to overcome and unleash the potential that those 'in the know' see. That would indeed be almost an additional signing.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans. Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in. And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?[/p][/quote]Your point about Guly is a good one. I hold my hand up and admit that I have criticised him (I am not a hater though). Seedhouse makes a valid case in that three managers recognise his ability so wtf are we to disagree. My hope is that, whether it's being played out of his position, the transition to the PL or just a lack of belief in himself, he manages to overcome and unleash the potential that those 'in the know' see. That would indeed be almost an additional signing. STID st1halo

2:17pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid
you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.
I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?
The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.[/p][/quote]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.[/p][/quote]I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?[/p][/quote]The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three. Crispinmumbles

2:21pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Sainty saint saint says...

st1halo wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened.

Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.
Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans.

Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in.

And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?
Your point about Guly is a good one. I hold my hand up and admit that I have criticised him (I am not a hater though). Seedhouse makes a valid case in that three managers recognise his ability so wtf are we to disagree. My hope is that, whether it's being played out of his position, the transition to the PL or just a lack of belief in himself, he manages to overcome and unleash the potential that those 'in the know' see. That would indeed be almost an additional signing.

STID
I don't think it's lack of belief in himself necessarily - it's more the lack of belief coming from the 'fans' which shatters a player's confidence and a cause him to perform 'badly' under pressure.

I think Guly would be an excellent player if the crowd got behind him during a match... unlikely to happen though with some of our fans unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: The Guly haters won't get their wish until the squad is strengthened. Pardew took him on loan and then made his deal perminent, under Adkins his deal was extended and MoPo hasn't released him despite letting a whole host of others go. That's three professional managers who see it differently from the haters but then they have the advantage of seeing him train day in day out.[/p][/quote]Quite right. Guly has received far too much criticism, from Saints fans. Strangely enough, should we sign Damiao, Guly could play a big part in helping him settle in. And with the name Leandro Damiao da Silva DOS SANTOS, (two Saints) why shouldn't he sign for us?[/p][/quote]Your point about Guly is a good one. I hold my hand up and admit that I have criticised him (I am not a hater though). Seedhouse makes a valid case in that three managers recognise his ability so wtf are we to disagree. My hope is that, whether it's being played out of his position, the transition to the PL or just a lack of belief in himself, he manages to overcome and unleash the potential that those 'in the know' see. That would indeed be almost an additional signing. STID[/p][/quote]I don't think it's lack of belief in himself necessarily - it's more the lack of belief coming from the 'fans' which shatters a player's confidence and a cause him to perform 'badly' under pressure. I think Guly would be an excellent player if the crowd got behind him during a match... unlikely to happen though with some of our fans unfortunately. Sainty saint saint

3:20pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Jesus_02 says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
boilerman wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'!
Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.
Yes of course, and S Davis is N Irish, but I was just picking out the Brits (although I know that doesn't help with the 'English football in crisis' issue!)
English football has not and will never be ruined by foriegn players

It will be ruined by the FA/England manager who leave the Top English (prem) Goalscorer at home even when all other options are injured

Rickie for England - Up The Sainsts
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]Yes, I'm worried too, we only have Clyne, Shaw, Cork, Puncheon, Lallana, Lambert, S Davis, J-Rod pushing for first-team places. With only K Davis, Fox, Targett, Ward-Prowse, Stephens, Turnbull, etc pushing for a call-up to the senior squad... we're really struggling with all these foreigners 'the way we're going'![/p][/quote]Excellent point although Targett and Fox are sweaties.[/p][/quote]Yes of course, and S Davis is N Irish, but I was just picking out the Brits (although I know that doesn't help with the 'English football in crisis' issue!)[/p][/quote]English football has not and will never be ruined by foriegn players It will be ruined by the FA/England manager who leave the Top English (prem) Goalscorer at home even when all other options are injured Rickie for England - Up The Sainsts Jesus_02

3:34pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid
you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.
I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?
The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three.
I reckon the risk is the same whatever the nationality of the player. It's something we have to live with whoever we sign. And, as we have seen, even the products of our academy can be lured away by what look like brighter lights.
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.[/p][/quote]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.[/p][/quote]I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?[/p][/quote]The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three.[/p][/quote]I reckon the risk is the same whatever the nationality of the player. It's something we have to live with whoever we sign. And, as we have seen, even the products of our academy can be lured away by what look like brighter lights. Rising_Son

6:48pm Fri 5 Jul 13

just kidding says...

Wow! How great is this? discussing players of this caliber joining our club. Damiao and Wanyama , cant wait to see them holding their shirts on the OS. I think that would do it, we have plenty of players who can rotate through different positions if need be, and the competition for a place in the team would be ferocious. What a time to be a Saints fan.
Wow! How great is this? discussing players of this caliber joining our club. Damiao and Wanyama , cant wait to see them holding their shirts on the OS. I think that would do it, we have plenty of players who can rotate through different positions if need be, and the competition for a place in the team would be ferocious. What a time to be a Saints fan. just kidding

8:05pm Fri 5 Jul 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

You would think these guys would sign up for the new watch alone?
You would think these guys would sign up for the new watch alone? OSPREYSAINT

10:00pm Fri 5 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid
you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.
I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?
The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three.
I reckon the risk is the same whatever the nationality of the player. It's something we have to live with whoever we sign. And, as we have seen, even the products of our academy can be lured away by what look like brighter lights.
Fair point (sorry for the delay, I have been working) I'm just an old idealist at heart. Anyway, as long as we get some talented new blood, I just want to kick on and see some games again. Any cast offs people think may deserve another go?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I haven't heard anything about Suarez, Tevez or Robinho coming here.[/p][/quote]Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit! if you can't follow the argument then I am afraid you should re-brand yourself as twilight - as in dim.[/p][/quote]I wasn't being sarcastic. What have these three got to do the players linked to Saints being mercenaries?[/p][/quote]The point was that they came to the Prem for the money. Of course others may well come for the love of football and be committed to the cause but those three in particular wanted to bail as soon as life become tougher or a better offer was on the table. I rate the players being talked about but, if they receive a better offer, will we have the same kind of histrionics that Man City and Liverpool have had to put up with. Hopefully not but are we wise in taking the risk? Anyway til deals are done it is pure speculation and obviously we face competition for all three.[/p][/quote]I reckon the risk is the same whatever the nationality of the player. It's something we have to live with whoever we sign. And, as we have seen, even the products of our academy can be lured away by what look like brighter lights.[/p][/quote]Fair point (sorry for the delay, I have been working) I'm just an old idealist at heart. Anyway, as long as we get some talented new blood, I just want to kick on and see some games again. Any cast offs people think may deserve another go? Crispinmumbles

6:11am Sun 7 Jul 13

Dubai-saints89 says...

boilerman wrote:
I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players.
All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas.
But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players.
I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years?
The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.
i couldn't agree more. as someone who cares about the English national team, foreign players moving over to the prem is only just going to push the English talent away.
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I thought the club wanted to bring through young English players. All of our targets seem to be from abroad not that I am against foreign players we have had and still have some great players from overseas. But the way things are going we will end up like Chelsea and Arsenal by fielding a first 11 with no homegrown players. I know people will say if we are successful that makes it alright , but do we want to have a national team in 10 years? The soul of English football is being torn apart by foreign owners and players with the fans being forgotten about.[/p][/quote]i couldn't agree more. as someone who cares about the English national team, foreign players moving over to the prem is only just going to push the English talent away. Dubai-saints89

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