Saints wait to join striker spree

Pablo Osvaldo

Pablo Osvaldo

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Saints are expected to join the £130m Premier League bonanza already splashed out on strikers before the start of the season.

Mauricio Pochettino is hoping to bring in a front line centre forward to help share the burden with Rickie Lambert before the big kick-off three weeks tomorrow.

There have been strong links with the likes of Pablo Osvaldo and Leandro Damiao – but competition is fierce to buy proven goalscorers.

Their value to a team has never been in doubt, but it seems their worth has never been higher, which is underlined by the spending of Premier League clubs this summer.

Some 14 clubs have invested in new forwards during the closed season, and more than £130m has already been spent on new strike talent.

The latest top flight move is expected to see one-time Saints target Gary Hooper leave Celtic to join Norwich for around £5m.

Only Saints, Fulham, Manchester United, Newcastle, Stoke and Tottenham have so far not recruited at least one striker.

Most of those are in the market for one, though.

Spurs, Fulham and Saints are all said to have enquired after Italian international Osvaldo while Chelsea continue to eye Wayne Rooney.

If Rooney were to go, and Luis Suarez move to Arsenal, it could see spending on strikers alone in the Premier League break the £200m mark for the first time ever in one transfer window.

That would be an astonishing feat.

Clubs have been buoyed by the extra cash they are receiving from the new TV contract – up to £25m each just for next season alone – but it appears that transfer fees are going up accordingly.

To get top line goalscorers isn’t easy for any club.

The case of Damiao has proved just that this summer.

The Brazilian striker is being widely coveted, with Saints amongst those eyeing him.

He is undoubtedly a big talent but, with his club not keen to see him leave, they want a hefty price – and that might be too much of a gamble even for cash-rich Premier League sides.

Zenit St Petersburg are reported to be about to test the water with a bid of over £20m.

Osvaldo, meanwhile, has also been the subject of much speculation this summer.

The latest reports indicate that Fulham are increasingly confident of tying up a deal for the forward who played for Espanyol under Pochettino.

Saints are keen for another striker with Lambert’s only real back up being Emmanuel Mayuka, who has yet to prove himself, and Jay Rodriguez.

And Pochettino would prefer not to move Rodriguez as he has been so effective playing in a slightly deeper role.

Other strikers at St Mary’s such as Tadanari Lee and Billy Sharp appear to be surplus to requirements, having not gone on the club’s pre-season tour.

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6:31am Fri 26 Jul 13

bigfella777 says...

Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.
Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season. bigfella777
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6:51am Fri 26 Jul 13

saintgibbo says...

So much for MP having all signings done before July 1st. It seems to be taking a while to ship out the surplus to requirement players too.
So much for MP having all signings done before July 1st. It seems to be taking a while to ship out the surplus to requirement players too. saintgibbo
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6:58am Fri 26 Jul 13

rednwhite72 says...

I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops!
I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops! rednwhite72
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7:04am Fri 26 Jul 13

knuckle dragger says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.
Clearly Rickie is so good that no club can afford to bid for him.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.[/p][/quote]Clearly Rickie is so good that no club can afford to bid for him. knuckle dragger
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7:06am Fri 26 Jul 13

bigfella777 says...

Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe bigfella777
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7:24am Fri 26 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops!
It has also been known for clubs to pay very little for strikers, who then become 'proven' flops.
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops![/p][/quote]It has also been known for clubs to pay very little for strikers, who then become 'proven' flops. Rising_Son
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7:26am Fri 26 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

And pay millions for players, who turn out be worth the money and sometimes more.
And pay millions for players, who turn out be worth the money and sometimes more. Rising_Son
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7:43am Fri 26 Jul 13

Tony in Liberia says...

Personally, I think we should shelve this speculation on strikers until we find out what Gordon "Flash" Watson thinks; come on, Echo, I'm agog wih anticipation for the inside scoop.
Personally, I think we should shelve this speculation on strikers until we find out what Gordon "Flash" Watson thinks; come on, Echo, I'm agog wih anticipation for the inside scoop. Tony in Liberia
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7:52am Fri 26 Jul 13

Golden_Salamander says...

It is good that the Echo have changed their views from earlier in the week.
Namely
"... hoping to bring in a front line centre forward to help share the burden with Rickie Lambert ".
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The important words are - SHARE THE BURDEN with Sir Rickie.
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If we are to challenge for Europe we need TWO players for every position in a 4-5-1 (really 4-2-3-1) system and currently we only have Rickie who can play the "back to goal" role.
It is good that the Echo have changed their views from earlier in the week. Namely "... hoping to bring in a front line centre forward to help share the burden with Rickie Lambert ". . The important words are - SHARE THE BURDEN with Sir Rickie. . If we are to challenge for Europe we need TWO players for every position in a 4-5-1 (really 4-2-3-1) system and currently we only have Rickie who can play the "back to goal" role. Golden_Salamander
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8:27am Fri 26 Jul 13

miltonarcher says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.
I surprised given your complete lack of football knowledge, that you continue to make yourself look stupid by posting rubbish on here.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.[/p][/quote]I surprised given your complete lack of football knowledge, that you continue to make yourself look stupid by posting rubbish on here. miltonarcher
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8:55am Fri 26 Jul 13

Bartonlona says...

We need two strikers, although Lambert was the top English scorer he needs to score twenty plus for a top half club. He is also getting older.
We need two strikers, although Lambert was the top English scorer he needs to score twenty plus for a top half club. He is also getting older. Bartonlona
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8:56am Fri 26 Jul 13

mbetts says...

The Daily Star are reporting West Ham interested in Lambert again, a simple case of putting 2 and 2 together, if we did get a new proven younger strikers in or Rodriguez develops to become a trusted 20+ a season finisher or Mayuka turns out to be the new Andy Cole then we could allow Lambert to move on, otherwise we should tell Fat Sam to do one!
The Daily Star are reporting West Ham interested in Lambert again, a simple case of putting 2 and 2 together, if we did get a new proven younger strikers in or Rodriguez develops to become a trusted 20+ a season finisher or Mayuka turns out to be the new Andy Cole then we could allow Lambert to move on, otherwise we should tell Fat Sam to do one! mbetts
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9:01am Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
might want to lay off the drugs a little bit mate.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]might want to lay off the drugs a little bit mate. Stroppy_gramps
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9:04am Fri 26 Jul 13

petethephantom says...

me thinks bigfella777 is honest little ole arry in disguise
me thinks bigfella777 is honest little ole arry in disguise petethephantom
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9:06am Fri 26 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Personally, I think we should shelve this speculation on strikers until we find out what Gordon "Flash" Watson thinks; come on, Echo, I'm agog wih anticipation for the inside scoop.
I couldn't agree more. Why the holy oracles and dinosaurs have not been consulted or quoted is matter of local and national importance. One comment from him or MLT or any member of the '76 cup team, or the legendary Daily Mail 5 a side cup winning team is always good value. I'm expecting one or more of them to show up soon as the news drought continues, perhaps offering their considered opinion of the fashion event of the year i.e. our new shirts. We are now truly a cat walk team.

I also have a suspicon about the Osvaldo story. Look at the shirt. I strongly suspect that he has "Wind" on the front and "Up" on the back ... He's undoubtedly a good player but if we're are bidding for him I think it's an agents ploy to drive up his price and he'll end up elsewhere. We shall see.

.. and so Friday rumbles on ....
[quote][p][bold]Tony in Liberia[/bold] wrote: Personally, I think we should shelve this speculation on strikers until we find out what Gordon "Flash" Watson thinks; come on, Echo, I'm agog wih anticipation for the inside scoop.[/p][/quote]I couldn't agree more. Why the holy oracles and dinosaurs have not been consulted or quoted is matter of local and national importance. One comment from him or MLT or any member of the '76 cup team, or the legendary Daily Mail 5 a side cup winning team is always good value. I'm expecting one or more of them to show up soon as the news drought continues, perhaps offering their considered opinion of the fashion event of the year i.e. our new shirts. We are now truly a cat walk team. I also have a suspicon about the Osvaldo story. Look at the shirt. I strongly suspect that he has "Wind" on the front and "Up" on the back ... He's undoubtedly a good player but if we're are bidding for him I think it's an agents ploy to drive up his price and he'll end up elsewhere. We shall see. .. and so Friday rumbles on .... Alicesdad
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9:08am Fri 26 Jul 13

george chivers says...

I would prefer us sign a quick wide man who can go past a full back on his natural foot, rather than a striker. We don't create enough chances. I think if we did we have the strikers to finish them without buying another one this season.
I would prefer us sign a quick wide man who can go past a full back on his natural foot, rather than a striker. We don't create enough chances. I think if we did we have the strikers to finish them without buying another one this season. george chivers
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9:17am Fri 26 Jul 13

John Shuttleworth says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
Yes, buy a 32-year-old striker.
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]Yes, buy a 32-year-old striker. John Shuttleworth
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9:33am Fri 26 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

I hope there's some news soon... I was thinking of banging on about Schrodingers cat again .. I'm dying to know if it's dead or alive ....
I hope there's some news soon... I was thinking of banging on about Schrodingers cat again .. I'm dying to know if it's dead or alive .... Alicesdad
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9:36am Fri 26 Jul 13

redsnapper says...

Just watched NC on Sky and it looks like he is on a massive charm offensive flying SKY to the training base in Austria but saying it how it is.
No intention of paying stupid prices for players who are not worth it.

He knows we have several aces in the pack!

This club is really going places!!!
COYR

TOP 7 finish //put your money on it.
Just watched NC on Sky and it looks like he is on a massive charm offensive flying SKY to the training base in Austria but saying it how it is. No intention of paying stupid prices for players who are not worth it. He knows we have several aces in the pack! This club is really going places!!! COYR TOP 7 finish //put your money on it. redsnapper
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9:36am Fri 26 Jul 13

bathsaints says...

It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst!
It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst! bathsaints
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9:48am Fri 26 Jul 13

Clever Dick says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I hope there's some news soon... I was thinking of banging on about Schrodingers cat again .. I'm dying to know if it's dead or alive ....
Well it was put in that box a long time ago. If nobody has looked inside since there is a fair chance it is no longer breathing. It's snuffed it. It's effing dead.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I hope there's some news soon... I was thinking of banging on about Schrodingers cat again .. I'm dying to know if it's dead or alive ....[/p][/quote]Well it was put in that box a long time ago. If nobody has looked inside since there is a fair chance it is no longer breathing. It's snuffed it. It's effing dead. Clever Dick
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10:05am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

Wouldn't be surprised if NC was wooing a few Italian-based strike targets at our Austrian base this week - not a big trip for the likes of Osvaldo.

I see Huntellar has stated an ambition to play in the Premier League too, so maybe that's not out of the question, although I wasn't impressed with him at the Euros.
Wouldn't be surprised if NC was wooing a few Italian-based strike targets at our Austrian base this week - not a big trip for the likes of Osvaldo. I see Huntellar has stated an ambition to play in the Premier League too, so maybe that's not out of the question, although I wasn't impressed with him at the Euros. SaintJD
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10:06am Fri 26 Jul 13

Tirau Dan says...

In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation. Tirau Dan
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10:07am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintMax says...

I like the look of the Columbian that West Ham couldn't sort out the papers for.. raw goal scorer.. does Osvaldo have the appetite?
I like the look of the Columbian that West Ham couldn't sort out the papers for.. raw goal scorer.. does Osvaldo have the appetite? SaintMax
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10:09am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

redsnapper wrote:
Just watched NC on Sky and it looks like he is on a massive charm offensive flying SKY to the training base in Austria but saying it how it is.
No intention of paying stupid prices for players who are not worth it.

He knows we have several aces in the pack!

This club is really going places!!!
COYR

TOP 7 finish //put your money on it.
Was impressive, and Nicola actually looked relaxed and a decent enough guy - was less staged than the Spanish feature earlier this year.

The whole set up looked seriously impressive.

Interesting though that we won't pay above the odds for players but didn't look like they were watching the pennies on the pre-season tour. Unless the players are staying at the Travel Lodge down the road and buying their food at the Esso garage.

They were cycling to training so maybe that is the case.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Just watched NC on Sky and it looks like he is on a massive charm offensive flying SKY to the training base in Austria but saying it how it is. No intention of paying stupid prices for players who are not worth it. He knows we have several aces in the pack! This club is really going places!!! COYR TOP 7 finish //put your money on it.[/p][/quote]Was impressive, and Nicola actually looked relaxed and a decent enough guy - was less staged than the Spanish feature earlier this year. The whole set up looked seriously impressive. Interesting though that we won't pay above the odds for players but didn't look like they were watching the pennies on the pre-season tour. Unless the players are staying at the Travel Lodge down the road and buying their food at the Esso garage. They were cycling to training so maybe that is the case. SaintJD
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10:09am Fri 26 Jul 13

allsaintsnocurves says...

Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that.
Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that. allsaintsnocurves
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10:14am Fri 26 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

bathsaints wrote:
It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst!
I agree it's frustrating, but it's not as if we're competing with unknown teams for unknown talent. I'm sure, if we were, it would all be dried and dusted by now.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst![/p][/quote]I agree it's frustrating, but it's not as if we're competing with unknown teams for unknown talent. I'm sure, if we were, it would all be dried and dusted by now. Rising_Son
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10:19am Fri 26 Jul 13

drkensta says...

I still think Bendtner would be a good addition to the Saints forward line. We need a good man in the air who can also shoot on target. He showed that he can do that with Arsenal, but fell out with the Wenger system as he did not fit with the slow build up style, a system.
I still think Bendtner would be a good addition to the Saints forward line. We need a good man in the air who can also shoot on target. He showed that he can do that with Arsenal, but fell out with the Wenger system as he did not fit with the slow build up style, a system. drkensta
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10:23am Fri 26 Jul 13

Tirau Dan says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that.
He is too similar to Lee Barnard and Billy Sharp.. decent but not the player to add edge to our attack..to mack the top 4-6 we will need a 20 mil 25 goal striker up front with back up/ partner of a fit Rickie. I don't think Jay is quite ready to fill the role of a 25 goal getter just yet.. I wish it were so.

I think we may see a fair bit of Callum Chambers this year if Nat Clyne gets hurt or suspended.... looking forward to it.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that.[/p][/quote]He is too similar to Lee Barnard and Billy Sharp.. decent but not the player to add edge to our attack..to mack the top 4-6 we will need a 20 mil 25 goal striker up front with back up/ partner of a fit Rickie. I don't think Jay is quite ready to fill the role of a 25 goal getter just yet.. I wish it were so. I think we may see a fair bit of Callum Chambers this year if Nat Clyne gets hurt or suspended.... looking forward to it. Tirau Dan
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10:27am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

drkensta wrote:
I still think Bendtner would be a good addition to the Saints forward line. We need a good man in the air who can also shoot on target. He showed that he can do that with Arsenal, but fell out with the Wenger system as he did not fit with the slow build up style, a system.
Bendtner seems one of those players who seems to still pick up interest from other clubs without ever producing the goods consistently. His motivations and attitude are also questionable in my opinion.

He's more of a 'guaranteed 8-12 goals a season' guy than a 'guaranteed 16-20 goals a season' guy and I don't think that's what we're looking for.

And that's without the attitude.
[quote][p][bold]drkensta[/bold] wrote: I still think Bendtner would be a good addition to the Saints forward line. We need a good man in the air who can also shoot on target. He showed that he can do that with Arsenal, but fell out with the Wenger system as he did not fit with the slow build up style, a system.[/p][/quote]Bendtner seems one of those players who seems to still pick up interest from other clubs without ever producing the goods consistently. His motivations and attitude are also questionable in my opinion. He's more of a 'guaranteed 8-12 goals a season' guy than a 'guaranteed 16-20 goals a season' guy and I don't think that's what we're looking for. And that's without the attitude. SaintJD
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10:27am Fri 26 Jul 13

up saints says...

Rising_Son wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst!
I agree it's frustrating, but it's not as if we're competing with unknown teams for unknown talent. I'm sure, if we were, it would all be dried and dusted by now.
we havn't done bad yes only two players but spent £22mil.better not to rush than go down the forren route again.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: It is frustrating that we haven't been more active in the transfer market to date. Clearly we need another striker as well as extra defensive cover. Our early season games are all winnable and so we need the squad cohesive and ready to go, bringing in new signings earlier would mean we can hit the ground running. If we don't bring anyone in until the season starts that naturally puts the team back slightly as new players have to have time to bed in etc. I'm sure MP and NC have a plan but would nice to begin to see the fruit of it....oh and Crouch?? seriously?? would rather bring back David Hirst![/p][/quote]I agree it's frustrating, but it's not as if we're competing with unknown teams for unknown talent. I'm sure, if we were, it would all be dried and dusted by now.[/p][/quote]we havn't done bad yes only two players but spent £22mil.better not to rush than go down the forren route again. up saints
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10:31am Fri 26 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Mrs Wilson on the switchboard was rather reticent this morning but whispered: "The hot water for the bath is ready and the lice are commiserating among themselves."

I didn't really get it quite honestly so I pushed for a clue, but she said "Reputation is like a cake drawn in the sand - not much use when you are hungry."

I still couldn't make this out so pushed again and she said: "When you aim at the rat, beware of the vase."

Before I could ask again for a clue she said "Ooops gotta go Mr Confucious!"

Mark my words, something is going on.
Mrs Wilson on the switchboard was rather reticent this morning but whispered: "The hot water for the bath is ready and the lice are commiserating among themselves." I didn't really get it quite honestly so I pushed for a clue, but she said "Reputation is like a cake drawn in the sand - not much use when you are hungry." I still couldn't make this out so pushed again and she said: "When you aim at the rat, beware of the vase." Before I could ask again for a clue she said "Ooops gotta go Mr Confucious!" Mark my words, something is going on. Confucious
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10:32am Fri 26 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy. BracknellSaint
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10:37am Fri 26 Jul 13

Rising_Son says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
The guy is a great success waiting to happen. There was a period towards the end of last season when I thought it had but he faded after that. Pity, but we still have something to look forward to.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy.[/p][/quote]The guy is a great success waiting to happen. There was a period towards the end of last season when I thought it had but he faded after that. Pity, but we still have something to look forward to. Rising_Son
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10:40am Fri 26 Jul 13

Crispinmumbles says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money. Crispinmumbles
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10:41am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
Agree. Whoever we buy I think it would be a great shame if Jay went back to making 10 and 20 minutes appearances from the bench as he did under Nigel. He clearly needs to know the club has confidence in him and I believe he'll be excellent.

As I said a few times towards the end of the season, I think his final shot wasn't quite there at some points, simply because he was running himself into the ground. Hopefully a more mobile central strike option will take some of that strain from him.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy.[/p][/quote]Agree. Whoever we buy I think it would be a great shame if Jay went back to making 10 and 20 minutes appearances from the bench as he did under Nigel. He clearly needs to know the club has confidence in him and I believe he'll be excellent. As I said a few times towards the end of the season, I think his final shot wasn't quite there at some points, simply because he was running himself into the ground. Hopefully a more mobile central strike option will take some of that strain from him. SaintJD
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10:42am Fri 26 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!. hedge end bob
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10:45am Fri 26 Jul 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR CB FRY LIVES
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10:55am Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy.[/p][/quote]I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him. el caballo santos101
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11:10am Fri 26 Jul 13

Jesus_02 says...

the more this rumbles on the less I like this Osvaldo guy. If he does come to Saints his heart may not be with us, same as if he ends up at Fulham.

He is 27 and wants to play for the biggest team possible. I dont think that being a part of a progressive club "on the up" will be big enough for him
the more this rumbles on the less I like this Osvaldo guy. If he does come to Saints his heart may not be with us, same as if he ends up at Fulham. He is 27 and wants to play for the biggest team possible. I dont think that being a part of a progressive club "on the up" will be big enough for him Jesus_02
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11:11am Fri 26 Jul 13

Epsom Saint says...

I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.
I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one. Epsom Saint
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11:11am Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.
Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros).
That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me!
Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for.

I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?)

On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail?
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2378319/So
uthampton-chairman-N
icola-Cortese-People
-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian
ded-Saints.html
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.[/p][/quote]Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros). That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me! Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for. I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?) On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html gr8saint
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11:15am Fri 26 Jul 13

saint christopher says...

Was just going to post the Mail interview myself. Interesting. Shows Cortese's ruthless, single-minded ambition but also his closeness to the players. He may not be perfect but who is? Jusy glad we got him (and Markus of course).
Was just going to post the Mail interview myself. Interesting. Shows Cortese's ruthless, single-minded ambition but also his closeness to the players. He may not be perfect but who is? Jusy glad we got him (and Markus of course). saint christopher
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11:23am Fri 26 Jul 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
the more this rumbles on the less I like this Osvaldo guy. If he does come to Saints his heart may not be with us, same as if he ends up at Fulham.

He is 27 and wants to play for the biggest team possible. I dont think that being a part of a progressive club "on the up" will be big enough for him
Lets hope if he does come to Saints he will be as great a player as OSVALDO ARDILLES was for Spurs.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: the more this rumbles on the less I like this Osvaldo guy. If he does come to Saints his heart may not be with us, same as if he ends up at Fulham. He is 27 and wants to play for the biggest team possible. I dont think that being a part of a progressive club "on the up" will be big enough for him[/p][/quote]Lets hope if he does come to Saints he will be as great a player as OSVALDO ARDILLES was for Spurs. CB FRY LIVES
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11:24am Fri 26 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him.
Must agree, at first I thought that Jay was a big mistake but, towards the end of last season he proved me wrong IMO. The boy will come good this year and I am going to have a few bob on him for leading club scorer. Gaston will also show his worth and make the few posters who don't rate him eat their words. I am sure we will see more players coming in but I wish it was today and not tomorrow. Defoe has been mention and feel he could do the little and large act with RL. Don't know about his fitness but, there's not a lot to keep fit is there!!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy.[/p][/quote]I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him.[/p][/quote]Must agree, at first I thought that Jay was a big mistake but, towards the end of last season he proved me wrong IMO. The boy will come good this year and I am going to have a few bob on him for leading club scorer. Gaston will also show his worth and make the few posters who don't rate him eat their words. I am sure we will see more players coming in but I wish it was today and not tomorrow. Defoe has been mention and feel he could do the little and large act with RL. Don't know about his fitness but, there's not a lot to keep fit is there!! hedge end bob
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11:26am Fri 26 Jul 13

Confucious says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers. Confucious
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11:34am Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE. SaintJD
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11:40am Fri 26 Jul 13

Confucious says...

SaintJD wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
Yes - if you put Fox or Guly's name on the shirt.

By the way, just heard that Poopey have had their shirt sponsorship request turned down flat by Shippams Fish Paste.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.[/p][/quote]Yes - if you put Fox or Guly's name on the shirt. By the way, just heard that Poopey have had their shirt sponsorship request turned down flat by Shippams Fish Paste. Confucious
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11:41am Fri 26 Jul 13

george chivers says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.
Have you seen these youngsters play?
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.[/p][/quote]Have you seen these youngsters play? george chivers
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11:49am Fri 26 Jul 13

Tirau Dan says...

gr8saint wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.
Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros).
That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me!
Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for.

I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?)

On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2378319/So

uthampton-chairman-N

icola-Cortese-People

-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian

ded-Saints.html
Crispin.. Callam Chambers is the inducted new rb to the firsts.. I'm really looking forward to seeing him... lots of good things and he did look good on attack for the Dev team. I love the way we are bringing on our young talent.
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.[/p][/quote]Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros). That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me! Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for. I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?) On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html[/p][/quote]Crispin.. Callam Chambers is the inducted new rb to the firsts.. I'm really looking forward to seeing him... lots of good things and he did look good on attack for the Dev team. I love the way we are bringing on our young talent. Tirau Dan
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11:55am Fri 26 Jul 13

StevieSteve says...

SaintJD wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if NC was wooing a few Italian-based strike targets at our Austrian base this week - not a big trip for the likes of Osvaldo.

I see Huntellar has stated an ambition to play in the Premier League too, so maybe that's not out of the question, although I wasn't impressed with him at the Euros.
Neither was I, but he seems to score goals for fun! Surely he's worth a better shout than Damiao and Osvaldo?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't be surprised if NC was wooing a few Italian-based strike targets at our Austrian base this week - not a big trip for the likes of Osvaldo. I see Huntellar has stated an ambition to play in the Premier League too, so maybe that's not out of the question, although I wasn't impressed with him at the Euros.[/p][/quote]Neither was I, but he seems to score goals for fun! Surely he's worth a better shout than Damiao and Osvaldo? StevieSteve
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12:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

gr8saint wrote:
Crispinmumbles wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.
Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros).
That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me!
Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for.

I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?)

On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2378319/So

uthampton-chairman-N

icola-Cortese-People

-thought-I-E-T-I-Ian

ded-Saints.html
maybe theboooooooooorer should have a red of this interview, but then it would have a problem with NC only being at the office for 12hrs a day.
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.[/p][/quote]Current price for Osvaldo is only around 6.8m (8m euros). That's a pretty sound investment, if you ask me! Still like the look of some of the others whose names have been bandied about, including Stoch as that could solve the problem of the wide man everybody is calling for. I still have a feeling that we could be sorting out a deal for Kouyate as well! I have no source for this, it's just a feeling, but would certainly be a nice way of shoring up the defence and adding some strong competition. (Maybe Cortese's hard at work whilst out in Austria with the team?) On a different note, I know that the interviews have been mentioned several times, but has anyone read the one with the mail? http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2378319/So uthampton-chairman-N icola-Cortese-People -thought-I-E-T-I-Ian ded-Saints.html[/p][/quote]maybe theboooooooooorer should have a red of this interview, but then it would have a problem with NC only being at the office for 12hrs a day. el caballo santos101
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12:08pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Bartonlona says...

No one in their right minds would want Defoe or Crouch, they are at the end of their careers! We will bring in a class striker of about 24 or 25 years old and another lesser known one in their early twenties. Lambert on the bench to change things around as an impact sub!
No one in their right minds would want Defoe or Crouch, they are at the end of their careers! We will bring in a class striker of about 24 or 25 years old and another lesser known one in their early twenties. Lambert on the bench to change things around as an impact sub! Bartonlona
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12:11pm Fri 26 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
Don't laugh ...I really have been banned from Specsavers with the wife!!!

Glad we agree Confucious FIVE REAL FANS , would like to shake your hand . A man that can admit he has made a mistake is A REAL MAN INDEED.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]Don't laugh ...I really have been banned from Specsavers with the wife!!! Glad we agree Confucious FIVE REAL FANS , would like to shake your hand . A man that can admit he has made a mistake is A REAL MAN INDEED. hedge end bob
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12:13pm Fri 26 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

SaintJD wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.[/p][/quote]NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! hedge end bob
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12:16pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season.
I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up.
Could be a huge year for the boy.
I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him.
Must agree, at first I thought that Jay was a big mistake but, towards the end of last season he proved me wrong IMO. The boy will come good this year and I am going to have a few bob on him for leading club scorer. Gaston will also show his worth and make the few posters who don't rate him eat their words. I am sure we will see more players coming in but I wish it was today and not tomorrow. Defoe has been mention and feel he could do the little and large act with RL. Don't know about his fitness but, there's not a lot to keep fit is there!!
don't rate defoe and never have, the only redeeming thing about him was that he couldn't stand playing for poopey. I think that if we want to progress and climb the table we need to look past players like defoe. I wouldn't have minded getting theo back.

one thing I did pick up on in the mail interview with NC was "'The standard at the club is rising, but we have a responsibility to help the English team with players if they want to select them." very interesting comment.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]To be fair, there seem to be alot of Jay knockers on here, but I thought he looked uplayable at times at the end of last season. I put it on another thread a month or so back, but when Malkay Mackay was on talksport, he talked about how Saints bought Jay, and there were some raised eyebrows, but that anyone who played in the Championship knew he was the best striker in the league, and that Saints had got a real bargain. Malkay said that it took Jay time to settle in, and he didn't have a great start, but by the end of the season he was phenomenal, and there were apparently bids/serious inquiries from a few 'big'clubs plus talk of an England call up. Could be a huge year for the boy.[/p][/quote]I think j-rod could be an outstanding player this season. he was very unplayable at times towards the end of the season and believe that towards the end of this coming season he will be our leading scorer. it all depends on MP and his ability to get the best from him.[/p][/quote]Must agree, at first I thought that Jay was a big mistake but, towards the end of last season he proved me wrong IMO. The boy will come good this year and I am going to have a few bob on him for leading club scorer. Gaston will also show his worth and make the few posters who don't rate him eat their words. I am sure we will see more players coming in but I wish it was today and not tomorrow. Defoe has been mention and feel he could do the little and large act with RL. Don't know about his fitness but, there's not a lot to keep fit is there!![/p][/quote]don't rate defoe and never have, the only redeeming thing about him was that he couldn't stand playing for poopey. I think that if we want to progress and climb the table we need to look past players like defoe. I wouldn't have minded getting theo back. one thing I did pick up on in the mail interview with NC was "'The standard at the club is rising, but we have a responsibility to help the English team with players if they want to select them." very interesting comment. el caballo santos101
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12:26pm Fri 26 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Guly du Prado should play in a more forward striking position next season; he's good with both feet and an excellent header of the ball. Great first touch. What more do you need?
Guly du Prado should play in a more forward striking position next season; he's good with both feet and an excellent header of the ball. Great first touch. What more do you need? right back in the bar
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12:32pm Fri 26 Jul 13

arm chair fan says...

george chivers wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.
Have you seen these youngsters play?
not in a live game but by all reports NA and MP have . Lloyd has just been give a new contract and callum has talked about being clynes understudy. to bring in another right back would totally undermine the youth policy !!!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.[/p][/quote]Have you seen these youngsters play?[/p][/quote]not in a live game but by all reports NA and MP have . Lloyd has just been give a new contract and callum has talked about being clynes understudy. to bring in another right back would totally undermine the youth policy !!! arm chair fan
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12:34pm Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

hedge end bob wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well.

CURSES to you hedge end bob.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.[/p][/quote]NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!![/p][/quote]D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well. CURSES to you hedge end bob. SaintJD
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1:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

hedge end bob says...

DONT CARE WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN AND WHAT YOU HAVE BOUGHT. LISTEN YOU CANT BE THE VERY BEST GENUINE SAINTS FAN. CONFUCIUS AND I ARE THE BESTEST REAL FANS EVER IN THE CLUBS 126 YEARS HISTORY.

God hope the season starts soon.
DONT CARE WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN AND WHAT YOU HAVE BOUGHT. LISTEN YOU CANT BE THE VERY BEST GENUINE SAINTS FAN. CONFUCIUS AND I ARE THE BESTEST REAL FANS EVER IN THE CLUBS 126 YEARS HISTORY. God hope the season starts soon. hedge end bob
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1:21pm Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez?

And if they are who is buying and selling their players?

They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business?

They wouldn't be getting him cheap.
Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez? And if they are who is buying and selling their players? They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business? They wouldn't be getting him cheap. SaintJD
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1:35pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Confucious says...

Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.
Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up. Confucious
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1:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Confucious wrote:
Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.
Maybe he dropped one - 3 times.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.[/p][/quote]Maybe he dropped one - 3 times. right back in the bar
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1:41pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Mister E says...

SaintJD wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well.

CURSES to you hedge end bob.
I'm trying and aspire to join the ranks of the bestest Saints fans - convincing my self that the new shirt is striped in red, but it just so happens the background is a similar colour!
Is there hope for me?

On a different tack - anyone know how Poch's English is progressing?
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.[/p][/quote]NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!![/p][/quote]D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well. CURSES to you hedge end bob.[/p][/quote]I'm trying and aspire to join the ranks of the bestest Saints fans - convincing my self that the new shirt is striped in red, but it just so happens the background is a similar colour! Is there hope for me? On a different tack - anyone know how Poch's English is progressing? Mister E
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1:41pm Fri 26 Jul 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

Confucious wrote:
Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.
is he going to sack someone?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.[/p][/quote]is he going to sack someone? worried of n e hampshire
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1:41pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Alicesdad says...

The interview with Cortese simply shows that the man is totally committed to the club and its future success.

His comments are brief, to the point and there is none of the flowery meaningless bullshut that some use.

Not many at the executive level even give interviews, so Cortese is showing the media more respect than they probably deserve.

I particularly like his firm view on the freeby culture, he is quite right. Ex players were paid duting their tenure and if they want to see the team play why shouldn't they pay.
The interview with Cortese simply shows that the man is totally committed to the club and its future success. His comments are brief, to the point and there is none of the flowery meaningless bullshut that some use. Not many at the executive level even give interviews, so Cortese is showing the media more respect than they probably deserve. I particularly like his firm view on the freeby culture, he is quite right. Ex players were paid duting their tenure and if they want to see the team play why shouldn't they pay. Alicesdad
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1:42pm Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

SaintJD wrote:
Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez?

And if they are who is buying and selling their players?

They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business?

They wouldn't be getting him cheap.
Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup.
I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee.

Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan.
Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez? And if they are who is buying and selling their players? They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business? They wouldn't be getting him cheap.[/p][/quote]Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup. I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee. Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan. Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied. gr8saint
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1:57pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that.
nigel wanted hooper he knew him from scunny but he probably could of been another billy sharp ok good record in scotland but the epl is much harder the championship is probably a tougher league than the spl i mean last night in the europa league hibs lost 7 0 at home to malmo .a epl team would never have a result like that ,says it all for me
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Did Saints not go in for Hooper because he was deemed no better than Rodriguez or Lambert? I think if Saints are to bring in a new forward it is going to be one who is better than what we currently have so that the effect is felt almost immediately throughout the club. This would match Saints' ambition to hit the top half of the table and reap the financial rewards that come with that.[/p][/quote]nigel wanted hooper he knew him from scunny but he probably could of been another billy sharp ok good record in scotland but the epl is much harder the championship is probably a tougher league than the spl i mean last night in the europa league hibs lost 7 0 at home to malmo .a epl team would never have a result like that ,says it all for me saintkenny
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2:01pm Fri 26 Jul 13

nuttysaint says...

Crispinmumbles wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.
Calum Chambers will be right back cover I'm guessing and Defoe won't leave spurs as they a very short in that department too
[quote][p][bold]Crispinmumbles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]No pressure then! I think Jay is as good as a lot of the players being spoken about. He's quite quick, can finish and gets into good positions. Another player or two would be nice but the sensible chap I've quoted here highlights later on the fact that our most urgent need is cover for Clyne. Prices quoted for nutters like Osvaldo and Leandro make me think that unless our scouts come up with something saucy, we might be better off biding our time. If he is fit, Defoe does know where the net is and would do a job short term and for sensible money.[/p][/quote]Calum Chambers will be right back cover I'm guessing and Defoe won't leave spurs as they a very short in that department too nuttysaint
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2:05pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Bartonlona wrote:
No one in their right minds would want Defoe or Crouch, they are at the end of their careers! We will bring in a class striker of about 24 or 25 years old and another lesser known one in their early twenties. Lambert on the bench to change things around as an impact sub!
lambert will start all the time he is 100 percent in every maurico team him in adam both first names on the sheet with morgan and cork .my starting 11 at the moment boric clyne shaw yoshida lovran morgan cork wanyama lallana jay rod rickie 443 or 442 wanyama interchanging
[quote][p][bold]Bartonlona[/bold] wrote: No one in their right minds would want Defoe or Crouch, they are at the end of their careers! We will bring in a class striker of about 24 or 25 years old and another lesser known one in their early twenties. Lambert on the bench to change things around as an impact sub![/p][/quote]lambert will start all the time he is 100 percent in every maurico team him in adam both first names on the sheet with morgan and cork .my starting 11 at the moment boric clyne shaw yoshida lovran morgan cork wanyama lallana jay rod rickie 443 or 442 wanyama interchanging saintkenny
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2:19pm Fri 26 Jul 13

lowe esteem says...

rednwhite72 wrote:
I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops!
...and millions more buy on the cheap and get crepe.
[quote][p][bold]rednwhite72[/bold] wrote: I think the art for a good manager would be to find an unproven talent and turn him into a sensation and save on the outragoeusly over-priced talent on offer. I have a feeling the canaries will get a good return on that 5m for hooper. It has been known for clubs to pay 10's of millions for 'proven' strikers and the become 'proven' flops![/p][/quote]...and millions more buy on the cheap and get crepe. lowe esteem
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2:21pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

gr8saint wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez?

And if they are who is buying and selling their players?

They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business?

They wouldn't be getting him cheap.
Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup.
I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee.

Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan.
Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied.
coultino also gets 70.000 a week 40.000 more than he would of got here .buttner also the same at manutd
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez? And if they are who is buying and selling their players? They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business? They wouldn't be getting him cheap.[/p][/quote]Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup. I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee. Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan. Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied.[/p][/quote]coultino also gets 70.000 a week 40.000 more than he would of got here .buttner also the same at manutd saintkenny
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2:28pm Fri 26 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

Mister E wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Good Morning All,
real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice.
Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st.
Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING.

How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??.

have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.
Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks.

I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints.

I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.
So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well.

CURSES to you hedge end bob.
I'm trying and aspire to join the ranks of the bestest Saints fans - convincing my self that the new shirt is striped in red, but it just so happens the background is a similar colour!
Is there hope for me?

On a different tack - anyone know how Poch's English is progressing?
Haven't seen anything with Poch talking clearly, so hard to say.
That said, alot of the 'pre season uncovered ' vids show him chatting and laughing with Kelvin, and having a chat with Jay at half time.
My guess-he's able to chat normally, probably was when he joined( notice how he 'got ' the questions the interviewer was asking, before listening to the translation?) but he might not feel 100% confident in a TV interview etc..
Anyway, I don't really care about talking to Sky/ MOTD. If he can communicate with the players, and create a great atmosphere(and again, from those blog vids, seems we have a VERY good,tight and friendly group) I'm more than happy.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: Good Morning All, real SAINTS fan here, as we all are Confucious weather we wear the new shirt or not, personal choice. Away tickets for W B A on sale to season ticket holders with at least 6 away games last season. That lets me in, on JULY 31st. Would like too see all the players we need in the club by the middle of next week and bedding in to the SOUTHAMPTON WAY OF PLAYING. How did some of you guys watch the game on Wednesday night??, and can we watch this SAT??. have a good day, and don't forget it's not what you wear that makes you a real fan it's the commitment you show towards the club that counts. We could all do this by filling ST MARY'S for the coming friendly, I will be there as always.And I am not saying this makes me a real fan!!!.[/p][/quote]Okay Bob - I surrender. It's too close to the start of the season now to have any divisions in our ranks. I hereby declare Hedge End Bob the truest of true Saints. I would also like to make it clear that this also applies to the other four people who don't like the brilliant new shirt - including the three blokes with impaired vision and the woman who was banned from Specsavers.[/p][/quote]So, does that mean if I do buy a new Saints shirt and randomly switch on my CAPS LOCK AND SHOUT THE ODD PHRASE I can be the very best genuine Saints fan? PLEASE.[/p][/quote]NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!![/p][/quote]D@mn it. Just got back from the superstore with my Guly home shirt as well. CURSES to you hedge end bob.[/p][/quote]I'm trying and aspire to join the ranks of the bestest Saints fans - convincing my self that the new shirt is striped in red, but it just so happens the background is a similar colour! Is there hope for me? On a different tack - anyone know how Poch's English is progressing?[/p][/quote]Haven't seen anything with Poch talking clearly, so hard to say. That said, alot of the 'pre season uncovered ' vids show him chatting and laughing with Kelvin, and having a chat with Jay at half time. My guess-he's able to chat normally, probably was when he joined( notice how he 'got ' the questions the interviewer was asking, before listening to the translation?) but he might not feel 100% confident in a TV interview etc.. Anyway, I don't really care about talking to Sky/ MOTD. If he can communicate with the players, and create a great atmosphere(and again, from those blog vids, seems we have a VERY good,tight and friendly group) I'm more than happy. BracknellSaint
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2:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

saintkenny wrote:
gr8saint wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez?

And if they are who is buying and selling their players?

They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business?

They wouldn't be getting him cheap.
Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup.
I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee.

Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan.
Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied.
coultino also gets 70.000 a week 40.000 more than he would of got here .buttner also the same at manutd
Yeah .... and that, too! ;)
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: Out of interest and off topic, why are Inter Milan seemingly so interested in buying Gaston Ramirez? And if they are who is buying and selling their players? They let Courtinho join Liverpool and want to bring in Gaston in his place. Good business? They wouldn't be getting him cheap.[/p][/quote]Inter have been scouting Ramirez for several seasons now, including all season prior to him joining us and at the Confederations Cup. I think the talk of them making a move, is more his agent trying to manufacture the move for a nice big Agents fee. Coutinho has always wanted to play for Liverpool and is apparently a Liverpool fan. Inter would certainly consider the signing of Ramirez to be a good way of replacing Coutinho, but I'm not convinced that the interest is as "concrete" as the agent has implied.[/p][/quote]coultino also gets 70.000 a week 40.000 more than he would of got here .buttner also the same at manutd[/p][/quote]Yeah .... and that, too! ;) gr8saint
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2:45pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

we're not getting Hooper. Thank god.
distinctly mediocre.

but I honestly cannot believe that some of you are considering Crouch to be a good signing.
He's past it! And the others. I would only consider signing Rooney from the PL (you never know he might want to come and be the big fish in the little pond. How would we think of him if he was the player who got us into Europe?)
Right now, there are not very many English Players who you could consider to be world beaters.
So we got to shop abroad. And we are. And I have no doubt we will sign someone very interesting. Plenty of time until the window closes.
we're not getting Hooper. Thank god. distinctly mediocre. but I honestly cannot believe that some of you are considering Crouch to be a good signing. He's past it! And the others. I would only consider signing Rooney from the PL (you never know he might want to come and be the big fish in the little pond. How would we think of him if he was the player who got us into Europe?) Right now, there are not very many English Players who you could consider to be world beaters. So we got to shop abroad. And we are. And I have no doubt we will sign someone very interesting. Plenty of time until the window closes. Stroppy_gramps
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2:47pm Fri 26 Jul 13

jonbat says...

I watched the whole game against Schalke on sport lemon tv
I watched the whole game against Schalke on sport lemon tv jonbat
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2:53pm Fri 26 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need. BracknellSaint
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2:57pm Fri 26 Jul 13

BRIAN from bartley says...

The interview with Nicola Cortese in today's "Daily Mail "makes very good reading, will the "Echo" publish this in full? If not why not?
It would be wonderful if you could get Nicola on side and get his views, they would be far more interesting than the Weekly Column by "Yesterdays Man who clearly is not one of Nicolas favourites!

The "Echo" needs the Club more than the Club needs the "Echo." who are losing readers fast with the recent mammoth increase in price!
When did we last see a match report listing any Red or Yellow Cards?
The interview with Nicola Cortese in today's "Daily Mail "makes very good reading, will the "Echo" publish this in full? If not why not? It would be wonderful if you could get Nicola on side and get his views, they would be far more interesting than the Weekly Column by "Yesterdays Man who clearly is not one of Nicolas favourites! The "Echo" needs the Club more than the Club needs the "Echo." who are losing readers fast with the recent mammoth increase in price! When did we last see a match report listing any Red or Yellow Cards? BRIAN from bartley
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3:12pm Fri 26 Jul 13

swesaint says...

arm chair fan wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Epsom Saint wrote:
I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.
Have you seen these youngsters play?
not in a live game but by all reports NA and MP have . Lloyd has just been give a new contract and callum has talked about being clynes understudy. to bring in another right back would totally undermine the youth policy !!!
Both of them looked hungry and good against Schalke. Chambers together with wanyama were the best saints players.
[quote][p][bold]arm chair fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.[/p][/quote]Have you seen these youngsters play?[/p][/quote]not in a live game but by all reports NA and MP have . Lloyd has just been give a new contract and callum has talked about being clynes understudy. to bring in another right back would totally undermine the youth policy !!![/p][/quote]Both of them looked hungry and good against Schalke. Chambers together with wanyama were the best saints players. swesaint
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3:18pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Will people please stop mentioning Crouch and Defoe. The very thought of NC parting with good money for either is bringing me out in a sweat and is sure to lead to nightmares.
Will people please stop mentioning Crouch and Defoe. The very thought of NC parting with good money for either is bringing me out in a sweat and is sure to lead to nightmares. Strasbourg Saint
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3:24pm Fri 26 Jul 13

miltonarcher says...

Off topic, with the Ford plant closing, would this not be an ideal site for a football stadium? 45,000 capacity, with bars, resturants, parking around the site. Good access to rail, road, airport. Get in there NC.
Off topic, with the Ford plant closing, would this not be an ideal site for a football stadium? 45,000 capacity, with bars, resturants, parking around the site. Good access to rail, road, airport. Get in there NC. miltonarcher
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3:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

promised land says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy. promised land
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3:32pm Fri 26 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year? BracknellSaint
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3:32pm Fri 26 Jul 13

arm chair fan says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Will people please stop mentioning Crouch and Defoe. The very thought of NC parting with good money for either is bringing me out in a sweat and is sure to lead to nightmares.
relax !!!!!! ok, who is the oldest player to join saints in NC.'s time ? I am guessing david connely but my point is there have not been too may "on the way down" players get on the bus.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Will people please stop mentioning Crouch and Defoe. The very thought of NC parting with good money for either is bringing me out in a sweat and is sure to lead to nightmares.[/p][/quote]relax !!!!!! ok, who is the oldest player to join saints in NC.'s time ? I am guessing david connely but my point is there have not been too may "on the way down" players get on the bus. arm chair fan
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3:58pm Fri 26 Jul 13

promised land says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?[/p][/quote]Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me. promised land
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4:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Confucious says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.
Maybe he dropped one - 3 times.
I watched it again. There's no sign of any lifting of the leg or shifting of weight onto one cheek. Turning the volume up full, there's no hint either of that stepping-on-a-duck castanet-like resonation which would indicate an expulsion from the top of the sauce bottle.

Of course it could have been one of those silent "no comment" type of f@rts.

Hopefully someone in the know will be able to clear the air.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.[/p][/quote]Maybe he dropped one - 3 times.[/p][/quote]I watched it again. There's no sign of any lifting of the leg or shifting of weight onto one cheek. Turning the volume up full, there's no hint either of that stepping-on-a-duck castanet-like resonation which would indicate an expulsion from the top of the sauce bottle. Of course it could have been one of those silent "no comment" type of f@rts. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to clear the air. Confucious
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4:02pm Fri 26 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
That should tell you and others NC knows fook all about football,really come on]
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]That should tell you and others NC knows fook all about football,really come on] dirtyweasel
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4:06pm Fri 26 Jul 13

dirtyweasel says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
got to agree with that
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR[/p][/quote]got to agree with that dirtyweasel
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4:08pm Fri 26 Jul 13

promised land says...

promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.
The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?[/p][/quote]Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.[/p][/quote]The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ? promised land
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4:10pm Fri 26 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

Confucious wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.
Maybe he dropped one - 3 times.
I watched it again. There's no sign of any lifting of the leg or shifting of weight onto one cheek. Turning the volume up full, there's no hint either of that stepping-on-a-duck castanet-like resonation which would indicate an expulsion from the top of the sauce bottle.

Of course it could have been one of those silent "no comment" type of f@rts.

Hopefully someone in the know will be able to clear the air.
It's the silent ones that elicit the smiles. And had I been interviewed by Sky or the Daily Mail (as someone else has indicated on these pages) I would have been inclined to do the same. Good for NC - see everyone... he is human after all.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Nicola smiled three times in that interview with Sky. Something's up.[/p][/quote]Maybe he dropped one - 3 times.[/p][/quote]I watched it again. There's no sign of any lifting of the leg or shifting of weight onto one cheek. Turning the volume up full, there's no hint either of that stepping-on-a-duck castanet-like resonation which would indicate an expulsion from the top of the sauce bottle. Of course it could have been one of those silent "no comment" type of f@rts. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to clear the air.[/p][/quote]It's the silent ones that elicit the smiles. And had I been interviewed by Sky or the Daily Mail (as someone else has indicated on these pages) I would have been inclined to do the same. Good for NC - see everyone... he is human after all. right back in the bar
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4:38pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
got to agree with that
yes but keegen got 3000 a week in those days only daft directors set up silly deals like that these days rooney gets not much short of 300.000 a week thats 270.000 more than what keegan got this is the difference from the lawrie mac era 1980 when keegan signed i was 16 years old then .just wont happen these days without getting into financial trouble ask mr peter storrie
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR[/p][/quote]got to agree with that[/p][/quote]yes but keegen got 3000 a week in those days only daft directors set up silly deals like that these days rooney gets not much short of 300.000 a week thats 270.000 more than what keegan got this is the difference from the lawrie mac era 1980 when keegan signed i was 16 years old then .just wont happen these days without getting into financial trouble ask mr peter storrie saintkenny
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4:41pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

dirtyweasel wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
got to agree with that
what not just be dirtyskunt be more suitable
[quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR[/p][/quote]got to agree with that[/p][/quote]what not just be dirtyskunt be more suitable saintkenny
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4:47pm Fri 26 Jul 13

mack chinnon says...

saintkenny wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
got to agree with that
yes but keegen got 3000 a week in those days only daft directors set up silly deals like that these days rooney gets not much short of 300.000 a week thats 270.000 more than what keegan got this is the difference from the lawrie mac era 1980 when keegan signed i was 16 years old then .just wont happen these days without getting into financial trouble ask mr peter storrie
Peter Storrie, Southampton legend.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR[/p][/quote]got to agree with that[/p][/quote]yes but keegen got 3000 a week in those days only daft directors set up silly deals like that these days rooney gets not much short of 300.000 a week thats 270.000 more than what keegan got this is the difference from the lawrie mac era 1980 when keegan signed i was 16 years old then .just wont happen these days without getting into financial trouble ask mr peter storrie[/p][/quote]Peter Storrie, Southampton legend. mack chinnon
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4:49pm Fri 26 Jul 13

promised land says...

saintkenny wrote:
dirtyweasel wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe
There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent.
Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane
Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama.
If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat.
WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE.
COYR
got to agree with that
what not just be dirtyskunt be more suitable
Yes he'd agree to older players cos that's the plan Harry had and look what happened there.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dirtyweasel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Get Crouch back or go 6 mill for Defoe[/p][/quote]There are several proven english strikers out there who know the premiership inside out.Crouch and Defoe would be good buys.so would Darren Bent. Then there are younger guys like Harry Kane Gary Hooper would have been a useful signing too..Celtic wanted 8 million last year when his old Scunthorpe mentor Nigel Adkins was in charge of Saints.At 5.5 million he would have been a good acquisition to the Saints squad..OK he has no premiership experiece but there again nor has his old team mate Victor Wanyama. If NC and MP dont get their fingers out soon i fear we might miss the boat. WHY NOT MAKE WAYNE ROONEY AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE.-SOME MIGHT SAY DREAM ON BUT LAWRIE MAC GOT US KEVIN KEEGAN AND KEEGAN WAS A MUCH BIGGER FOOTBALLING TALENT THAN MR ROONEY EVER WILL BE. COYR[/p][/quote]got to agree with that[/p][/quote]what not just be dirtyskunt be more suitable[/p][/quote]Yes he'd agree to older players cos that's the plan Harry had and look what happened there. promised land
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4:49pm Fri 26 Jul 13

pompey in spain says...

its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,
confucious,st retford,warrens.....
..and of course badd bill
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill pompey in spain
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4:51pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Buddy SFC says...

The fact we didn't go after Hooper makes me think there must be something going on with one of the mentioned Strikers ??????? .................
The fact we didn't go after Hooper makes me think there must be something going on with one of the mentioned Strikers ??????? ................. Buddy SFC
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4:54pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,

confucious,st retford,warrens.....

..and of course badd bill
0h to be a dreamer much better then being a long lost angered and frustrated cheating loitering with jealousy .most are skunts trying to make out there saints fans like dirtyweasel prime example .stick out like a sore thumb
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]0h to be a dreamer much better then being a long lost angered and frustrated cheating loitering with jealousy .most are skunts trying to make out there saints fans like dirtyweasel prime example .stick out like a sore thumb saintkenny
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4:57pm Fri 26 Jul 13

promised land says...

pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,

confucious,st retford,warrens.....

..and of course badd bill
Tell you what come back when you have something to crow about and I don't mean IF you beat one of your fellow div 4 opponents.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]Tell you what come back when you have something to crow about and I don't mean IF you beat one of your fellow div 4 opponents. promised land
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4:57pm Fri 26 Jul 13

SaintJD says...

promised land wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.
The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?
I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club.

The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer.

I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking.
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?[/p][/quote]Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.[/p][/quote]The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?[/p][/quote]I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club. The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer. I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking. SaintJD
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5:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
The fact we didn't go after Hooper makes me think there must be something going on with one of the mentioned Strikers ??????? .................
but nigel wanted hooper he got the sack last jan .so im not surprised he would not be on mauricos radar .different managers do make a difference
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: The fact we didn't go after Hooper makes me think there must be something going on with one of the mentioned Strikers ??????? .................[/p][/quote]but nigel wanted hooper he got the sack last jan .so im not surprised he would not be on mauricos radar .different managers do make a difference saintkenny
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5:01pm Fri 26 Jul 13

BracknellSaint says...

SaintJD wrote:
promised land wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.
The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?
I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club.

The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer.

I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking.
Agree. It's been mentioned in the past as one of the probs Man U, and now City too, have had in attracting some of the top, top stars.
London is the obvious draw, as are cities such as Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Turin, Munich...and Paris now too of course..
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?[/p][/quote]Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.[/p][/quote]The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?[/p][/quote]I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club. The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer. I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking.[/p][/quote]Agree. It's been mentioned in the past as one of the probs Man U, and now City too, have had in attracting some of the top, top stars. London is the obvious draw, as are cities such as Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, Turin, Munich...and Paris now too of course.. BracknellSaint
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5:07pm Fri 26 Jul 13

CB FRY LIVES says...

pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,

confucious,st retford,warrens.....

..and of course badd bill
go and have a wet dream over Jimmy Dickenson.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]go and have a wet dream over Jimmy Dickenson. CB FRY LIVES
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5:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

ShakeyWiffles says...

miltonarcher wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.
I surprised given your complete lack of football knowledge, that you continue to make yourself look stupid by posting rubbish on here.
miltonarcher - I may love you for that comment!
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: Im surprised none of the big clubs have come in with a hefty bid for Lambert seeing as he scored so many goals last season.[/p][/quote]I surprised given your complete lack of football knowledge, that you continue to make yourself look stupid by posting rubbish on here.[/p][/quote]miltonarcher - I may love you for that comment! ShakeyWiffles
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5:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

THEirishSAINT says...

Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min
Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min THEirishSAINT
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5:38pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,

confucious,st retford,warrens.....

..and of course badd bill
Same old pompey few though eh. :0)
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]Same old pompey few though eh. :0) Baddesley Bill
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5:54pm Fri 26 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

Scoring was a BIG issue at the end of last season and will cost us dear this season if we do not start to convert chances...

...all is in place except the finishing touch..

Guess what Saints will never spend 30/40 mill on a striker and yet what/were would we have been with an RVP last season who can take a quarter chance never mind half chance, moreover were would Mufco have been without him...

We are a blöödy good team other than the finishing, so what should we be prepared to 'finish the job'?...
Scoring was a BIG issue at the end of last season and will cost us dear this season if we do not start to convert chances... ...all is in place except the finishing touch.. Guess what Saints will never spend 30/40 mill on a striker and yet what/were would we have been with an RVP last season who can take a quarter chance never mind half chance, moreover were would Mufco have been without him... We are a blöödy good team other than the finishing, so what should we be prepared to 'finish the job'?... warrens 76
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6:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

warrens 76 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,


confucious,st retford,warrens.....


..and of course badd bill
Same old pompey few though eh. :0)
Loathe as I am to admit it but 8.500 for a summer friendly against Cardiff is some going...PFC hate us with a capital H..so we respond in like...however their fans are more passionate than ours, it offends me the numbers who went to the Dell and now st M's and do not involve themselves, just expect to be watching and not part of the spectacle...wrong and it unfortunately embarrasses fans who want to get involved into silence...
I am Red and white through and through but I wish more of ours had more of the Skates front and passion...even their businessmen are nutters..fair play.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]Same old pompey few though eh. :0)[/p][/quote]Loathe as I am to admit it but 8.500 for a summer friendly against Cardiff is some going...PFC hate us with a capital H..so we respond in like...however their fans are more passionate than ours, it offends me the numbers who went to the Dell and now st M's and do not involve themselves, just expect to be watching and not part of the spectacle...wrong and it unfortunately embarrasses fans who want to get involved into silence... I am Red and white through and through but I wish more of ours had more of the Skates front and passion...even their businessmen are nutters..fair play. warrens 76
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6:02pm Fri 26 Jul 13

right back in the bar says...

saintkenny wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
promised land wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
promised land wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us.
Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type!
Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid.
I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming.
Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.
A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?.
That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.
Those were indeed different days...
That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?)
Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type...
Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?
Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.
The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?
I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club.

The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer.

I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking.
it depends what wage they want if they want 60.000 to 70.000 they wont come if they dont mind 30.000 a week and want to improve as a player in the premier league and they might have more of a chance of getting in the team .of course fulham now have a rich packie owner thats if hes willing to pay wages over the budget .but we have new financial rules in place now .in the premier league
Its true - Brazilian footballers are bound to feel more at home in London where there are bound to be more girls sporting Brazilians. Most birds in Southampton have only just got around to the idea of trimming/tidying the bush.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: Not sure about Defoe. He's the sort of finisher we need, but think he's been around the block too much for us. Crouch? Still think he's been a very under-rated player, but no thanks! We've moved on from that type! Rooney? No. Never have, and never will understand the belief he's world class. He's so far from the top, top players, and is overweight/under motivated/over paid. I'd like us to get someone PROPERLY world class, and if not, someone up and coming. Agree with all above too-Hooper isn't the standard we need.[/p][/quote]A young up and coming youngster ? Reminds me when strachan identified a certain young striker at Metz. Only for the Daek Lord to say, No to a player valued under £3M. His name Adebayor. What happened with him ?. That's the kind of striker I hope we can find and buy.[/p][/quote]Those were indeed different days... That's exactly the kind I'd like to see..But may be he's already here? (Mayuka?) Anyway, if we are going to spend any big money, I want someone to really excite us, not a journeyman type... Think it's an unlikely deal, but Damiao would surely put bums on seats and get us buzzing for what is going to be a big year?[/p][/quote]Exactly. And that's the blue print Cortese is using. Identifying young players that have a long future at the club or sell value. Makes sound business sense to me.[/p][/quote]The Damiao deal is one those we will have to wait and see until the last minute. Because how I see it is his agent will be saying hang on son their are some other bigger clubs involved. Lets see what developes there first ?[/p][/quote]I think people shouldn't underestimate the issue of the city when high profile players pick a club. The likes of Osvaldo could well choose Fulham over us for the pure fact that London has a lot more to make a South American feel at home than maybe Southampton or any club from city of our size and profile could offer. I'm sure that plays a part in their thinking.[/p][/quote]it depends what wage they want if they want 60.000 to 70.000 they wont come if they dont mind 30.000 a week and want to improve as a player in the premier league and they might have more of a chance of getting in the team .of course fulham now have a rich packie owner thats if hes willing to pay wages over the budget .but we have new financial rules in place now .in the premier league[/p][/quote]Its true - Brazilian footballers are bound to feel more at home in London where there are bound to be more girls sporting Brazilians. Most birds in Southampton have only just got around to the idea of trimming/tidying the bush. right back in the bar
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6:04pm Fri 26 Jul 13

philiprhampton says...

Delve into the Bundeslega
Delve into the Bundeslega philiprhampton
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6:06pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stnana says...

THEirishSAINT wrote:
Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min
Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.
[quote][p][bold]THEirishSAINT[/bold] wrote: Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min[/p][/quote]Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight. Stnana
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6:17pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Baddesley Bill says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
pompey in spain wrote:
its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed,



confucious,st retford,warrens.....



..and of course badd bill
Same old pompey few though eh. :0)
Loathe as I am to admit it but 8.500 for a summer friendly against Cardiff is some going...PFC hate us with a capital H..so we respond in like...however their fans are more passionate than ours, it offends me the numbers who went to the Dell and now st M's and do not involve themselves, just expect to be watching and not part of the spectacle...wrong and it unfortunately embarrasses fans who want to get involved into silence...
I am Red and white through and through but I wish more of ours had more of the Skates front and passion...even their businessmen are nutters..fair play.
I do get your point...but modern football is about filling a stadium....in our case 32k+. Attracting families and new blood to SMS is a must....it is part and parcel of creating a long and successful stay in top flight football. Pompey will learn this in time...if they survive.
I disagree that you think there was a poor atmos at the Dell. There most certainly was a great atmosphere at the ding dong Dell!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]Same old pompey few though eh. :0)[/p][/quote]Loathe as I am to admit it but 8.500 for a summer friendly against Cardiff is some going...PFC hate us with a capital H..so we respond in like...however their fans are more passionate than ours, it offends me the numbers who went to the Dell and now st M's and do not involve themselves, just expect to be watching and not part of the spectacle...wrong and it unfortunately embarrasses fans who want to get involved into silence... I am Red and white through and through but I wish more of ours had more of the Skates front and passion...even their businessmen are nutters..fair play.[/p][/quote]I do get your point...but modern football is about filling a stadium....in our case 32k+. Attracting families and new blood to SMS is a must....it is part and parcel of creating a long and successful stay in top flight football. Pompey will learn this in time...if they survive. I disagree that you think there was a poor atmos at the Dell. There most certainly was a great atmosphere at the ding dong Dell! Baddesley Bill
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6:24pm Fri 26 Jul 13

brighton saint says...

Stnana wrote:
THEirishSAINT wrote:
Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min
Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.
Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well.
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THEirishSAINT[/bold] wrote: Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min[/p][/quote]Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.[/p][/quote]Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well. brighton saint
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6:45pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stnana says...

brighton saint wrote:
Stnana wrote:
THEirishSAINT wrote:
Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min
Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.
Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well.
I can't see that happening or he would be at the training camp with the rest. He tweeted a week or two ago that he was training on the south coast, this led to rumours he was going to Bournemouth. There have also been rumours in the press that NA wanted him at Reading. Then yesterday it was all over twitter that Billy Davies at Nottingham didn't want him back. It's all very strange.
[quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THEirishSAINT[/bold] wrote: Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min[/p][/quote]Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.[/p][/quote]Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well.[/p][/quote]I can't see that happening or he would be at the training camp with the rest. He tweeted a week or two ago that he was training on the south coast, this led to rumours he was going to Bournemouth. There have also been rumours in the press that NA wanted him at Reading. Then yesterday it was all over twitter that Billy Davies at Nottingham didn't want him back. It's all very strange. Stnana
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7:20pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stnana says...

Stnana wrote:
brighton saint wrote:
Stnana wrote:
THEirishSAINT wrote:
Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min
Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.
Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well.
I can't see that happening or he would be at the training camp with the rest. He tweeted a week or two ago that he was training on the south coast, this led to rumours he was going to Bournemouth. There have also been rumours in the press that NA wanted him at Reading. Then yesterday it was all over twitter that Billy Davies at Nottingham didn't want him back. It's all very strange.
Yes he's is playing tonight. Good Luck Billy !
[quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stnana[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THEirishSAINT[/bold] wrote: Id really have like to see billysharp get a run out in the pl.. Hes a proven goal scorer. Exactly wat were missing at the min[/p][/quote]Read on twitter Doncaster asked for him on loan a couple of weeks ago but haven't had a reply yet. He's supposed to be in Eastleigh tonight.[/p][/quote]Deffo give Billy a go as I reck he will score in the top league....he's a poacher in the box something we need ....Lambo and him formed a good partnership scoring and creating...could save us a few squid as well.[/p][/quote]I can't see that happening or he would be at the training camp with the rest. He tweeted a week or two ago that he was training on the south coast, this led to rumours he was going to Bournemouth. There have also been rumours in the press that NA wanted him at Reading. Then yesterday it was all over twitter that Billy Davies at Nottingham didn't want him back. It's all very strange.[/p][/quote]Yes he's is playing tonight. Good Luck Billy ! Stnana
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7:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
pompey in spain wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill
Same old pompey few though eh. :0)
And hopefully getting fewer!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: its gotta be said theres an awful lot of new ''saints fans'' on here....most of them dreamers/////not you slugger,osprey.seed, confucious,st retford,warrens..... ..and of course badd bill[/p][/quote]Same old pompey few though eh. :0)[/p][/quote]And hopefully getting fewer! DisplacedFan
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7:42pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

as much as we all love Billy for helping us get promoted, I don't think he is the right player for us in the prem. if MP thought billy could do a job for us he would have taken him on the trip. billy is a good championship level player not prem, everyone knows he isn't wanted here and yet there still haven't been any offers for him, is it a wages problem? where ever billy ends up I am sure he will do well, unfortunately for billy that doesn't look to be with us.
as much as we all love Billy for helping us get promoted, I don't think he is the right player for us in the prem. if MP thought billy could do a job for us he would have taken him on the trip. billy is a good championship level player not prem, everyone knows he isn't wanted here and yet there still haven't been any offers for him, is it a wages problem? where ever billy ends up I am sure he will do well, unfortunately for billy that doesn't look to be with us. el caballo santos101
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7:59pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stnana says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
as much as we all love Billy for helping us get promoted, I don't think he is the right player for us in the prem. if MP thought billy could do a job for us he would have taken him on the trip. billy is a good championship level player not prem, everyone knows he isn't wanted here and yet there still haven't been any offers for him, is it a wages problem? where ever billy ends up I am sure he will do well, unfortunately for billy that doesn't look to be with us.
The same was said about some of our other players and look how they managed to step up ! Has MP ever seen him ? He was out on loan long before MP arrived. I do ,however, agree it's pretty obvious he's not wanted here, so why has no one replied to Doncaster ?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: as much as we all love Billy for helping us get promoted, I don't think he is the right player for us in the prem. if MP thought billy could do a job for us he would have taken him on the trip. billy is a good championship level player not prem, everyone knows he isn't wanted here and yet there still haven't been any offers for him, is it a wages problem? where ever billy ends up I am sure he will do well, unfortunately for billy that doesn't look to be with us.[/p][/quote]The same was said about some of our other players and look how they managed to step up ! Has MP ever seen him ? He was out on loan long before MP arrived. I do ,however, agree it's pretty obvious he's not wanted here, so why has no one replied to Doncaster ? Stnana
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8:05pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

I see pompey have raised £11,000 for local charities.

what a nice club we are
I see pompey have raised £11,000 for local charities. what a nice club we are Five Trophies Between Us
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8:11pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintbobby says...

Well, yes I did read the interview in the Daily Mail and as I expected and like everything else in the Daily Mail, it was a very good and interesting interview. In fact for me it was the first interview that I have read given by Mr Cortese.

I hope this is going to be a sign of the times and we hear from him more often. He should know all this lot on here are grateful for what he has achieved and we have no ulterior motive, other than we just would like to know what's going on - within reason, naturally.

I believe this article can be read on the Internet as it is now too late to get a copy of the paper, which being so good, sells out very quickly.

The only thing the Daily Mail got wrong last year was forecasting the Saints would finish bottom. This did surprise me and I hope their forecast this year is far more realistic.
Well, yes I did read the interview in the Daily Mail and as I expected and like everything else in the Daily Mail, it was a very good and interesting interview. In fact for me it was the first interview that I have read given by Mr Cortese. I hope this is going to be a sign of the times and we hear from him more often. He should know all this lot on here are grateful for what he has achieved and we have no ulterior motive, other than we just would like to know what's going on - within reason, naturally. I believe this article can be read on the Internet as it is now too late to get a copy of the paper, which being so good, sells out very quickly. The only thing the Daily Mail got wrong last year was forecasting the Saints would finish bottom. This did surprise me and I hope their forecast this year is far more realistic. saintbobby
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8:29pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn? Skating on thin ice
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8:34pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

the new defender actually played 18 games 4 lyon last year

he must b good
the new defender actually played 18 games 4 lyon last year he must b good Five Trophies Between Us
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8:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ? TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:41pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is? Five Trophies Between Us
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8:43pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
7 minutes till a bite! That is 53 points profit for me on the spread bet. Thank you!
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]7 minutes till a bite! That is 53 points profit for me on the spread bet. Thank you! Skating on thin ice
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8:45pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . . TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:47pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Tirau Dan says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date> Tirau Dan
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8:48pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u Five Trophies Between Us
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8:48pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
7 minutes till a bite! That is 53 points profit for me on the spread bet. Thank you!
Don't give a flying fcuk what you think - dealing with minnows like you is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Thanks for the laughs Skunty.

WTFILN!

FOADP!

COYR!
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]7 minutes till a bite! That is 53 points profit for me on the spread bet. Thank you![/p][/quote]Don't give a flying fcuk what you think - dealing with minnows like you is like shooting fish in a barrel. Thanks for the laughs Skunty. WTFILN! FOADP! COYR! TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:52pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all Five Trophies Between Us
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8:52pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say). TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:56pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
What about the local businesses & the other £60 million?

"Stolen stadium"? You're jealousy & that big chip on your shoulder must wear you down so much. Mind you, I guess the lack of intelligence & a conscience must help ease the burden.

WTFILN!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]What about the local businesses & the other £60 million? "Stolen stadium"? You're jealousy & that big chip on your shoulder must wear you down so much. Mind you, I guess the lack of intelligence & a conscience must help ease the burden. WTFILN! TPFKARTSNINZ
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8:58pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
4 - 1 in the following

trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc

shame 4- 1 u
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).[/p][/quote]4 - 1 in the following trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc shame 4- 1 u Five Trophies Between Us
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9:10pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Tirau Dan says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
no idea what you're taking for your depression but ask yourself do you even need a shed and paddock at Fratton dig a hole and fill the swamp water with carp you get far more locals in there
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]no idea what you're taking for your depression but ask yourself do you even need a shed and paddock at Fratton dig a hole and fill the swamp water with carp you get far more locals in there Tirau Dan
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9:10pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts? Skating on thin ice
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9:18pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

Ooh dear!!

http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/spo
rt/football/4424338/
Claus-Lundekvams-Pre
m-spot-fixing-bet-cl
aims-will-go-to-FIFA
.html
Ooh dear!! http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4424338/ Claus-Lundekvams-Pre m-spot-fixing-bet-cl aims-will-go-to-FIFA .html Skating on thin ice
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9:20pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
4 - 1 in the following

trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc

shame 4- 1 u
You're so funny.

Good luck with your treatment.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).[/p][/quote]4 - 1 in the following trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc shame 4- 1 u[/p][/quote]You're so funny. Good luck with your treatment. TPFKARTSNINZ
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9:23pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
4 - 1 in the following

trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc

shame 4- 1 u
You're so funny.

Good luck with your treatment.
my treatment z mixing it up with people with n inferiority complex

I like it
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).[/p][/quote]4 - 1 in the following trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc shame 4- 1 u[/p][/quote]You're so funny. Good luck with your treatment.[/p][/quote]my treatment z mixing it up with people with n inferiority complex I like it Five Trophies Between Us
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9:24pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
4 - 1 in the following

trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc

shame 4- 1 u
You're so funny.

Good luck with your treatment.
5-1
5-1
5-1

still turning up on here and saying not very much at all I see. Keep it coming skate, you bump those fishy little gums, bleating that same tired old claptrap over and over again.

We'll STILL be in the Premier League when the Skates finally work out how to add up properly without having to take their shoes and socks off.
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).[/p][/quote]4 - 1 in the following trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc shame 4- 1 u[/p][/quote]You're so funny. Good luck with your treatment.[/p][/quote]5-1 5-1 5-1 still turning up on here and saying not very much at all I see. Keep it coming skate, you bump those fishy little gums, bleating that same tired old claptrap over and over again. We'll STILL be in the Premier League when the Skates finally work out how to add up properly without having to take their shoes and socks off. Stroppy_gramps
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9:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid?????

By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .
by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you

shame 4 u
By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you.

Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language.

Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).
4 - 1 in the following

trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc

shame 4- 1 u
You're so funny.

Good luck with your treatment.
my treatment z mixing it up with people with n inferiority complex

I like it
you'll find those on the News website mate, not here.

but that's fine. we barely hear you these days.

5-1
5-1
5-1
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]You mean your bunch of amateurs & rejects are actually being paid????? By the way, 32% of nothing is not very much . . . . . . .[/p][/quote]by the way. its 38 years of nothing this year 4 you shame 4 u[/p][/quote]By the way, it's 4 Administrations for you. Well done for being the laughing stock of English football - "doing a Poopee" has now entered the English language. Shame 4 U (as you would illiterately say).[/p][/quote]4 - 1 in the following trophies, administrations, noise, atmosphere, passion, street cred, tourists, all time ranking league, etc etc shame 4- 1 u[/p][/quote]You're so funny. Good luck with your treatment.[/p][/quote]my treatment z mixing it up with people with n inferiority complex I like it[/p][/quote]you'll find those on the News website mate, not here. but that's fine. we barely hear you these days. 5-1 5-1 5-1 Stroppy_gramps
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9:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?
Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously.

Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously. Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds. TPFKARTSNINZ
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9:28pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/spo
rt/football/4422469/
Football-betting-sca
ndal-Claus-Lundekvam
-spot-fixing-claim.h
tml
http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4422469/ Football-betting-sca ndal-Claus-Lundekvam -spot-fixing-claim.h tml Skating on thin ice
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9:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

.uk/sol/homepage/spo

rt/football/4422469/

Football-betting-sca

ndal-Claus-Lundekvam

-spot-fixing-claim.h

tml
http://www.thesun.co
.uk/sol/homepage/spo
rt/football/3774829/
Football-charity theft-scandal-cheati
ng-inbreds-Poopee-th
etruthhurts.html

Shame 4 u
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4422469/ Football-betting-sca ndal-Claus-Lundekvam -spot-fixing-claim.h tml[/p][/quote]http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/3774829/ Football-charity theft-scandal-cheati ng-inbreds-Poopee-th etruthhurts.html Shame 4 u TPFKARTSNINZ
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9:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

i see the 6 year olds out tonight dont tell him how we paid for the stadium iv told him 10 times hes to stupid to understand .but being p o educated its quite understandable
i see the 6 year olds out tonight dont tell him how we paid for the stadium iv told him 10 times hes to stupid to understand .but being p o educated its quite understandable saintkenny
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9:38pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

9:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?
Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously.

Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.
No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that!
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously. Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.[/p][/quote]No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that! DisplacedFan
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9:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

.uk/sol/homepage/spo

rt/football/4422469/

Football-betting-sca

ndal-Claus-Lundekvam

-spot-fixing-claim.h

tml
dont read about peter storrie conning football agents and owners belham chainray of 20 million .thats small fish to the doings and goings on in the blue shed
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4422469/ Football-betting-sca ndal-Claus-Lundekvam -spot-fixing-claim.h tml[/p][/quote]dont read about peter storrie conning football agents and owners belham chainray of 20 million .thats small fish to the doings and goings on in the blue shed saintkenny
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9:43pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
iv told them loads of times like i said brains of infants
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]iv told them loads of times like i said brains of infants saintkenny
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9:46pm Fri 26 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
They don't deserve a response. They seem to love to come on to our website, but we should just ignore them like an elephant ignores a flea!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]They don't deserve a response. They seem to love to come on to our website, but we should just ignore them like an elephant ignores a flea! DisplacedFan
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9:46pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
http://www.thesun.co

.uk/sol/homepage/spo

rt/football/4422469/

Football-betting-sca

ndal-Claus-Lundekvam

-spot-fixing-claim.h

tml
ooh look!
It would seem a Skate has worked out how to copy and paste!

congratulations! I assume this is what you wanted to demonstrate?
Only the story you copied and pasted has no bearing at all on anything at all.

But hey - all the proper football fans know that you lot are paddling around in your own little pond of short-sighted truth denial.
So keep on paddling my fishy little friend, I'm sure that one day you might actually admit what you know in your heart - your provincial pub team are at the level they should be with their small fanbase.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: http://www.thesun.co .uk/sol/homepage/spo rt/football/4422469/ Football-betting-sca ndal-Claus-Lundekvam -spot-fixing-claim.h tml[/p][/quote]ooh look! It would seem a Skate has worked out how to copy and paste! congratulations! I assume this is what you wanted to demonstrate? Only the story you copied and pasted has no bearing at all on anything at all. But hey - all the proper football fans know that you lot are paddling around in your own little pond of short-sighted truth denial. So keep on paddling my fishy little friend, I'm sure that one day you might actually admit what you know in your heart - your provincial pub team are at the level they should be with their small fanbase. Stroppy_gramps
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9:46pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que? Skating on thin ice
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9:48pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
oh dear god....

Here Gentlemen is a perfect example of why it went t!ts up down the road.
anyone care to explain to the dumb Skate the difference?

anyone think there is any point because they never listen to the truth?

thought not.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]oh dear god.... Here Gentlemen is a perfect example of why it went t!ts up down the road. anyone care to explain to the dumb Skate the difference? anyone think there is any point because they never listen to the truth? thought not. Stroppy_gramps
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9:49pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

I would show Skoti how it works but I don't appear to have any beans to hand at the moment.
I would show Skoti how it works but I don't appear to have any beans to hand at the moment. Stroppy_gramps
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9:51pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=J-fX0UbpZ
ls

they should play this at the Kipper Shed next season. on constant loop.
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=J-fX0UbpZ ls they should play this at the Kipper Shed next season. on constant loop. Stroppy_gramps
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9:52pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?
Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously.

Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.
No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that!
Good point.

Sorry for actually misrepresenting a Skunt as having any sense of shame or intelligence.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously. Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.[/p][/quote]No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that![/p][/quote]Good point. Sorry for actually misrepresenting a Skunt as having any sense of shame or intelligence. TPFKARTSNINZ
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9:57pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Skating on thin ice says...

And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims?
And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims? Skating on thin ice
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9:59pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple saintkenny
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10:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims?
Have nothing to do with the entity that is Southampton Football Club.

honestly, you are living up to your forum name here. at least try to come up with something original.

(oh and here's a little bit of knowledge for you - companies go bankrupt all the time. Sometimes they even pay back their creditors! wow!)
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims?[/p][/quote]Have nothing to do with the entity that is Southampton Football Club. honestly, you are living up to your forum name here. at least try to come up with something original. (oh and here's a little bit of knowledge for you - companies go bankrupt all the time. Sometimes they even pay back their creditors! wow!) Stroppy_gramps
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10:02pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims?
nothing to do with us he just works for are backers clutching at straws hes no peter storrie
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: And the creditors of the MALI companies, declared bankrupt under the chairmanship of Mr Cortese, who have until 8 August to file their financial claims?[/p][/quote]nothing to do with us he just works for are backers clutching at straws hes no peter storrie saintkenny
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10:03pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

saintkenny wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple
In answer to your first question - yes they are.
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple[/p][/quote]In answer to your first question - yes they are. TPFKARTSNINZ
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10:06pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

tell you difference between peter storrie and nicola cortesse .peter oversee you from premier league to league 2 nicola cortesse oversee saints from league one to the premier league
tell you difference between peter storrie and nicola cortesse .peter oversee you from premier league to league 2 nicola cortesse oversee saints from league one to the premier league saintkenny
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10:09pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

saintkenny wrote:
tell you difference between peter storrie and nicola cortesse .peter oversee you from premier league to league 2 nicola cortesse oversee saints from league one to the premier league
no wonder he gets up there nose the borer more
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: tell you difference between peter storrie and nicola cortesse .peter oversee you from premier league to league 2 nicola cortesse oversee saints from league one to the premier league[/p][/quote]no wonder he gets up there nose the borer more saintkenny
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10:10pm Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
Stolen stadium?
Our stadium cost around 32.5m
27.5 million of that was paid by friends provident as sponsorship.
5m was a mortgage taken out by the holding company which owned Saints, they defaulted on it, THEY went into administration over it.
Marcus Leibheir paid that debt as part of his takeover. It was part of the agreement.

Nice try,
Thanks for playing,
You lose......... like your "team".

Don't come back til you have learned to talk sense!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]Stolen stadium? Our stadium cost around 32.5m 27.5 million of that was paid by friends provident as sponsorship. 5m was a mortgage taken out by the holding company which owned Saints, they defaulted on it, THEY went into administration over it. Marcus Leibheir paid that debt as part of his takeover. It was part of the agreement. Nice try, Thanks for playing, You lose......... like your "team". Don't come back til you have learned to talk sense! gr8saint
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10:12pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

The ‪#‎SaintsFCU21s
were 1-0 winners over Eastleigh this evening.
The ‪#‎SaintsFCU21s were 1-0 winners over Eastleigh this evening. saintkenny
  • Score: 0

10:17pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
  • Score: 1

10:17pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
oh dear god....

Here Gentlemen is a perfect example of why it went t!ts up down the road.
anyone care to explain to the dumb Skate the difference?

anyone think there is any point because they never listen to the truth?

thought not.
I know its so simple it hurts but I will try to make it even simpler for our minnow friends, so simple that they wont even have to use their webbed six fingers to count with.

ok now keep with me here because it might get a bit complicated (hard) for you.
if I want to build a new house I `borrow` (means you have to pay it back) money from a mortgage company to pay for it. now the mortgage company will want to make some money for lending it to me, this is called interest, so to make things easy we will say the cost of building the new house is £10 and the interest on this is £4 that makes a total of £14 ,still with me? if I had been paying 50p a year for 5 years before I couldn't pay anymore that means I have paid £2.50 of the £14 owed leaving £11.50. if I couldn't pay anymore and someone else took over paying they would try to do a deal with the mortgage company so they didn't have to pay all of the £11.50 left. they might offer £8, if accepted that would mean that the total paid back is £10.50p of the £10 borrowed. so not all of the money owed was paid back but the mortgage company still made some money and didn't lose any.

I hope this make it nice and easy for you, I have simplified it greatly and the real figures were much much more but hopefully you get the idea.

next lesson, players wages and how to pay only what you can afford.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]oh dear god.... Here Gentlemen is a perfect example of why it went t!ts up down the road. anyone care to explain to the dumb Skate the difference? anyone think there is any point because they never listen to the truth? thought not.[/p][/quote]I know its so simple it hurts but I will try to make it even simpler for our minnow friends, so simple that they wont even have to use their webbed six fingers to count with. ok now keep with me here because it might get a bit complicated (hard) for you. if I want to build a new house I `borrow` (means you have to pay it back) money from a mortgage company to pay for it. now the mortgage company will want to make some money for lending it to me, this is called interest, so to make things easy we will say the cost of building the new house is £10 and the interest on this is £4 that makes a total of £14 ,still with me? if I had been paying 50p a year for 5 years before I couldn't pay anymore that means I have paid £2.50 of the £14 owed leaving £11.50. if I couldn't pay anymore and someone else took over paying they would try to do a deal with the mortgage company so they didn't have to pay all of the £11.50 left. they might offer £8, if accepted that would mean that the total paid back is £10.50p of the £10 borrowed. so not all of the money owed was paid back but the mortgage company still made some money and didn't lose any. I hope this make it nice and easy for you, I have simplified it greatly and the real figures were much much more but hopefully you get the idea. next lesson, players wages and how to pay only what you can afford. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:22pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum! Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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10:28pm Fri 26 Jul 13

FindAndDestroy says...

As we all know,we do need another striker, i mean a natural goal scorer of course, and time seems to be running out, if we do run out of time, would it be an option to consider a loan move from a top club striker until we get find one?
As we all know,we do need another striker, i mean a natural goal scorer of course, and time seems to be running out, if we do run out of time, would it be an option to consider a loan move from a top club striker until we get find one? FindAndDestroy
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10:28pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TEBOURBA. says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple
In answer to your first question - yes they are.
Why do you always end up making us look stupid?
We come on here with our blue shirts and 11 toes, for a bit of banter and BANG ...... you make all of us look stupid.
We're only here because we're jealous of the immense business savvy and future success of your club.
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple[/p][/quote]In answer to your first question - yes they are.[/p][/quote]Why do you always end up making us look stupid? We come on here with our blue shirts and 11 toes, for a bit of banter and BANG ...... you make all of us look stupid. We're only here because we're jealous of the immense business savvy and future success of your club. TEBOURBA.
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10:31pm Fri 26 Jul 13

saintkenny says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
agreed
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]agreed saintkenny
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10:35pm Fri 26 Jul 13

angus mc coatup says...

Pompey !

Is there anyone out there that gives a flying fcuk about them anymore ?
Pompey ! Is there anyone out there that gives a flying fcuk about them anymore ? angus mc coatup
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10:36pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

TEBOURBA. wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract.

Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?
Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?
the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year.

I wonder what t stains figure is?
how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club...

our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,,

Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>
the charities were paid back straight away by fans

did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all
now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills.

1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans!

2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium!

3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML.

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.
So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?
are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple
In answer to your first question - yes they are.
Why do you always end up making us look stupid?
We come on here with our blue shirts and 11 toes, for a bit of banter and BANG ...... you make all of us look stupid.
We're only here because we're jealous of the immense business savvy and future success of your club.
Well I've got 11 fingers and 13 toes. My Mum said that it's because I'm special, on our wedding night.
My sister-daughter, has my 13 toes and my Mummy wifes 15 fingers.
We all have 1 blue shirt each though.

When we ad up all of our fingers and toes, you get the sum total of the average attendance last year at Fratton Park.
We might be stupid and inbred, but our history is so much more interesting than Saints.

By the way Tebourba ....... what does "business savvy" mean?
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: Looks like no one wants to sign for you, except players nobody else wants, like Victor Wantacontract. Interesting news on the Swiss Government's official website, the liquidation of the MALI companies continues apace. Mr Cortese has stood down from the boards of two companies this week, and creditors of these bankrupt companies have until 8 August to file their financial claims. How long before your turn?[/p][/quote]Financial advice from a Skunt - is it April Fools Day ?[/p][/quote]the pompey players wages will b 32% of turnover this year. I wonder what t stains figure is?[/p][/quote]how nice to have skates on here worrying about our club... our club has a simple mantra of fair expenditure and no loans for transfers or wages,,, Has Pompey paid back the cancer charity money yet? and are taxes up to date>[/p][/quote]the charities were paid back straight away by fans did your fans pay 4 your stolen stadium at all[/p][/quote]now I wouldn't normally respond to anything with webbed fingers which is much further down the food chain than us but I think you and all your minnow friends need to learn the truth about these lies that keep bubbling up from your gills. 1, fans raising some money to pay back the charities that your club stole from is NOT the same as the club paying it back. all it means is the club stole from the fans! 2, stolen stadium myth, firstly the stadium never caused the club to go into administration and was being paid up until the holding company entered administration. the club was then purchased by a billionaire who paid ALL of the clubs debts, yes including the stadium! 3, paying back debts, now you wont realise this as your club has never attempted to pay back its debts so I will try to explain. when ML brought sfc he offered the mortgage holder of st marys a lump sum of money. whilst this sum wasn't the full amount owed (it was a lot more than 2p in the pound) it was , and this is the important bit, an acceptable amount for the mortgage holder i.e. they didn't lose any money in the deal and they then handed over the deeds of sms to ML. I hope this clears up any misunderstanding you have about sms if it doesn't I will be offering `money and how it works` classes for the terminally stupid.[/p][/quote]So you didn't pay "the full amount owed" to your creditors, but they "didn't lose any money". Que?[/p][/quote]are you thick they were paid back more with interest and liebher still made profit on the interest league one 25.000 to 32.000 fans paying onto the club money from 2 promotions then 28. to 32.000 fans in the championship last season 100 million for the premiership .the loans easily cleared the club also funded the training ground meaning they now own 130 million assets .the club does not any owner regardless if they decide to sell up simple[/p][/quote]In answer to your first question - yes they are.[/p][/quote]Why do you always end up making us look stupid? We come on here with our blue shirts and 11 toes, for a bit of banter and BANG ...... you make all of us look stupid. We're only here because we're jealous of the immense business savvy and future success of your club.[/p][/quote]Well I've got 11 fingers and 13 toes. My Mum said that it's because I'm special, on our wedding night. My sister-daughter, has my 13 toes and my Mummy wifes 15 fingers. We all have 1 blue shirt each though. When we ad up all of our fingers and toes, you get the sum total of the average attendance last year at Fratton Park. We might be stupid and inbred, but our history is so much more interesting than Saints. By the way Tebourba ....... what does "business savvy" mean? Five Trophies Between Us
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10:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

MGRA says...

utter bollux on here tonight.... but funny....
utter bollux on here tonight.... but funny.... MGRA
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10:45pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

everyone knows the holding company was a dodgy ploy to avoid going under by a dodgy club with no history - and no trophies
everyone knows the holding company was a dodgy ploy to avoid going under by a dodgy club with no history - and no trophies Five Trophies Between Us
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10:48pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of! Five Trophies Between Us
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10:51pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
agreed
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]agreed Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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10:52pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
everyone knows the holding company was a dodgy ploy to avoid going under by a dodgy club with no history - and no trophies
Ok, so to correct myself, There wasn't a holding company at Portsmouth!
My mistake.

Now I've made myself look stupid!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: everyone knows the holding company was a dodgy ploy to avoid going under by a dodgy club with no history - and no trophies[/p][/quote]Ok, so to correct myself, There wasn't a holding company at Portsmouth! My mistake. Now I've made myself look stupid! Five Trophies Between Us
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10:53pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
All cack comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!”

STID
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]All cack comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!” STID Five Trophies Between Us
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11:00pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
agreed
Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean...
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]agreed[/p][/quote]Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean... Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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11:02pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
All cack comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!”

STID
Whoops!
There goes my other face, spouting off a bunch of idiocies!

I blame my Sister Mum, who's now my wife, for this awkward deformity!

Sorry to all of the people of Southampton whom I may have offended. Sometimes I just can't help but talk SH!T!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]All cack comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!” STID[/p][/quote]Whoops! There goes my other face, spouting off a bunch of idiocies! I blame my Sister Mum, who's now my wife, for this awkward deformity! Sorry to all of the people of Southampton whom I may have offended. Sometimes I just can't help but talk SH!T! Five Trophies Between Us
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
All cack comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!”

STID
Whoops!
There goes my other face, spouting off a bunch of idiocies!

I blame my Sister Mum, who's now my wife, for this awkward deformity!

Sorry to all of the people of Southampton whom I may have offended. Sometimes I just can't help but talk SH!T!
STID
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]All cack comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Portsmouth are clearly superior to Southampton and anyone seen wearing a Southampton shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Southampton fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this lack of history which we all claim to be so proud of!” STID[/p][/quote]Whoops! There goes my other face, spouting off a bunch of idiocies! I blame my Sister Mum, who's now my wife, for this awkward deformity! Sorry to all of the people of Southampton whom I may have offended. Sometimes I just can't help but talk SH!T![/p][/quote]STID Five Trophies Between Us
  • Score: 0

11:08pm Fri 26 Jul 13

MGRA says...

If I was a pompey supporter.. I would QUIETLY support my club for the next 20 years until they are SFCs rivals again. And hope within that time that Eastleigh FC don't get to the Prem.
If I was a pompey supporter.. I would QUIETLY support my club for the next 20 years until they are SFCs rivals again. And hope within that time that Eastleigh FC don't get to the Prem. MGRA
  • Score: 0

11:09pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
agreed
Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean...
I whole heartedly agree, we're all scum for what we did!
Charities
Children
Local Businesses
The Tax Payers of the country
Local Services.......
You're right, no Portsmouth fan can justify it.
It just showed us up for what we really are......
Bottom feeding, Parasitic scum!
[quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]agreed[/p][/quote]Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean...[/p][/quote]I whole heartedly agree, we're all scum for what we did! Charities Children Local Businesses The Tax Payers of the country Local Services....... You're right, no Portsmouth fan can justify it. It just showed us up for what we really are...... Bottom feeding, Parasitic scum! Five Trophies Between Us
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11:10pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

5trop you've just made yourself look even a bigger fool than you are. if you knew anything about the build up to our 1 and only administration you would know that lots of us complained when we saw what was happening and stopped going to games. we were selling enough tickets before that so we are not responsible.

what is a shame is that history is ALL you've got left, actually I take that back its not a shame as it couldnt have happened to a funnier bunch of idiots. was having that party on southsea common really worth it?
We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Rupert Lowe's fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! 5trop you've just made yourself look even a bigger fool than you are. if you knew anything about the build up to our 1 and only administration you would know that lots of us complained when we saw what was happening and stopped going to games. we were selling enough tickets before that so we are not responsible. what is a shame is that history is ALL you've got left, actually I take that back its not a shame as it couldnt have happened to a funnier bunch of idiots. was having that party on southsea common really worth it? el caballo santos101
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11:15pm Fri 26 Jul 13

DisplacedFan says...

TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
TPFKARTSNINZ wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.
Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?
Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously.

Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.
No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that!
Good point.

Sorry for actually misrepresenting a Skunt as having any sense of shame or intelligence.
No problem. They do have shared intelligence - of a sort. They all scurry when the lights are turned on.
[quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TPFKARTSNINZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: In the latest Chairman's interviews reported on Sky Sport and The Mirror Nicola Cortese said he told Jay Rod he expected him to be top of the goal scorers list and playing for England by Christmas... Now that is expectation.[/p][/quote]Dyno-Rod playing for England? What at? Darts?[/p][/quote]Oh dear, a "fan" of the Blue Few trying to take the p1ss. It's like Nick Clegg trying to be taken seriously. Don't bother fella, you're an embarrassment to your fellow in-breds.[/p][/quote]No he can't be an embarrassment to them. That is not possible. A perfect example of an oxy"moron". How perfect is that![/p][/quote]Good point. Sorry for actually misrepresenting a Skunt as having any sense of shame or intelligence.[/p][/quote]No problem. They do have shared intelligence - of a sort. They all scurry when the lights are turned on. DisplacedFan
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11:15pm Fri 26 Jul 13

TEBOURBA. says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child wrote:
With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702.

St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league.

That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them.

But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full.

Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised."

The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full.

Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000.

Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified.

Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid.

Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them.

Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement.

HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty.

Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality.

"Talking about the moral strength of the brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide."

So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.
Says it all really. Pompey scum!
All fair comments.

Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame!

We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening!
We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible!

Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of!
agreed
Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean...
I whole heartedly agree, we're all scum for what we did!
Charities
Children
Local Businesses
The Tax Payers of the country
Local Services.......
You're right, no Portsmouth fan can justify it.
It just showed us up for what we really are......
Bottom feeding, Parasitic scum!
In a nut-shell!
You have made me see the light!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child[/bold] wrote: With 54 clubs having collapsed into insolvency since English football's boom began with the Premier League breakaway in 1992, the eye becomes practised at picking out the most shameful of a club's bad debts. There it was, as ever, on page 45 of the administrator's report issued yesterday itemising bust Portsmouth's £122.8m debts: St John Ambulance, of Worthy Lane in Hampshire, owed £2,702. St John, along with schools, hospitals, the local ambulance service, HM Revenue and Customs and scores of small businesses in a total of £92.7m creditors left high and dry, will receive a fraction of what they are owed in any deal the administrator, Andrew Andronikou of Hacker Young, strikes with a new buyer. By hideous contrast, clubs owed transfer fees, and players due millionaires' pay packets, must be paid in full, according to Premier League and Football League rules, if Portsmouth are to continue as a club in either league. That is the nature of the "football creditors" rule, whose self-regarding rationale is that it would represent unfair competition if clubs signed players they could not afford, achieved success like Pompey did, and were then allowed not to pay them. But while Portsmouth were overspending on players, making losses of £23.5m in the year to May 2007, £17m in the following FA Cup winning season, and, now revealed by Andronikou, £13m in 2009, they were also taking on commitments to the tax authorities, the Scout Association of Guernsey (listed as owed £697), even Pompey's own supporters' club (owed £300), which they will now not need to pay in full. Andronikou, who said he agrees with Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs' vehement objection to this rule, said in his report: "The Premier League has developed an insolvency policy. This policy protects football related creditors as they are required to be paid in full but may allow non-football related creditors to be compromised." The list of "ordinary" creditors whose debts a new Portsmouth buyer can "compromise" runs to 15 closely typed pages. HMRC's £17.1m is the largest debt; the tax authorities are particularly bitter about the football creditors' rule because theirs is largely unpaid PAYE tax due on the millionaire players' wages which have to be paid in full. Among the players owed lump sums by Portsmouth – leaving aside the ongoing wage bill of around £1.2m a month, which Andronikou is paying the current squad – are several who have not worn a Pompey shirt for some time. Peter Crouch, now at Spurs under his former Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp, is owed £250,000. Glen Johnson, a Liverpool player since last July, must be paid £235,000; Silvain Distin, who left for Everton last summer, is due £300,000. Nine current and former players are also owed a total £3m for image rights, some to companies registered in tax havens, such as the British Virgin Islands (Niko Kranjcar), and Delaware, USA (Lassana Diarra). Altogether 29 current and former players are owed £4.7m, which must be paid in full if Portsmouth are to compete in the Football League, while ordinary creditors' debts can be slashed to a proportion Andronikou has not yet specified. Other clubs are still owed a total of £17.3m in transfer fee instalments, which again must be settled in full, some for originally signing players who have long since left. Chelsea are still owed £1m from when Portsmouth signed the now departed Johnson in 2007, Udinese £3.3m for Sulley Muntari, whom Pompey bought in May 2007 and sold to Internazionale a year later. The list, running alphabetically from Belhadj to Yebda, goes on, through 15 players with instalments still to be paid. Compared with those galactic figures for football trading and wages, the list of unsecured "ordinary" creditors, who must take a hit, is a painful litany of the inexcusably unpaid. Here is the South Central ambulance service, owed £19,535.39, Portsmouth city council, £28,690 down in rates, Portsmouth Students' Union, owed £2,955. A number of schools are owed significant sums, apparently for the hire of sports facilities, including Cowplain Community School in Waterlooville, with £14,743.54 outstanding, the Priory Community Sports Centre in Southsea, owed £11,000, and King Edward School in Southampton, who will have to accept a fraction of a £41,714.01 bill the Premier League club ran up with them. Andronikou's report confirms that Pompey's owner, Balram Chainrai, has mortgages over Fratton Park and other club assets for £14.2m in loans still outstanding to his company, Portpin, which gives him priority. The Premier and Football League rules require 75% of the unsecured, "ordinary" creditors, to whom Portsmouth owe £92.7m in total, including £9.8m to 27 football agents, to vote in favour of a settlement via a company voluntary arrangement. HMRC can be expected, as ever, to vote against any which demands of them a cut in what they are owed and, if no CVA is agreed, as happened at Leeds, the League is likely to impose a further 15-point penalty. Lord Mawhinney, who retired as the Football League's chairman last month, presided over this "football creditors" rule during his seven years in charge, but when he left, he wrote to all 72 clubs asking them to consider its morality. "Talking about the moral strength of the [Football League] brand," he wrote, "are we all comfortable that, in financial and debt terms, we treat football clubs more favourably than we do our local communities and their businesses, other taxpayers (to whom we have a civic responsibility) or St John Ambulance? That is for you to decide." So far there is no sign of clubs reconsidering. The Premier League's chief executive, Richard Scudamore, has said the rule must be followed in Portsmouth's case and he argues that Pompey's collapse reflects no wider shame on his glittering league. There is, though, no sporting nobility in paying long departed players millions in full, while St John Ambulance must take another hit from this awful mismanagement of football's boom.[/p][/quote]Says it all really. Pompey scum![/p][/quote]All fair comments. Based on the facts laid before us, Southampton are clearly superior to Portsmouth and anyone seen wearing a Portsmouth shirt from this day forward should hang their heads in shame! We should never have gotten away with it. We can all sit here and claim that it was all Peter Storries fault or various other people bad management, but not 1 of us complained when we knew what was happening! We knew that we could never sell enough tickets to cover our costs! We are equally responsible! Every Portsmouth fan, owner, Season ticket Holder or resident should be ashamed of this history which we all claim to be so proud of![/p][/quote]agreed[/p][/quote]Look mush Mr Five Trophies. Banter is banter but you can't argue with the facts. We all support our teams through thick and thin but FFS what Portsmouth did was just disgraceful. I have sympathy for the ordinary fan but don't come on here trumpeting your history whilst ignoring the most inglorious episode ever. I sincerely hope your club climb the leagues and end up back in the prem one day with us but, you can't deny the success of your recent premiership years was bought on the backs of charities and schools and local businesses that were not paid. It was disgraceful and so was the attitude of many of your fans who either ignore it or try to justify it. There is no justification. I am too **** to be coherent but you know what I mean...[/p][/quote]I whole heartedly agree, we're all scum for what we did! Charities Children Local Businesses The Tax Payers of the country Local Services....... You're right, no Portsmouth fan can justify it. It just showed us up for what we really are...... Bottom feeding, Parasitic scum![/p][/quote]In a nut-shell! You have made me see the light! TEBOURBA.
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11:17pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them
I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them Five Trophies Between Us
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11:21pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them
If you still have the trophies I would want to know why! Surely if they had any value the administrator should have sold them to pay the charities your bottom dwelling club cheated?
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them[/p][/quote]If you still have the trophies I would want to know why! Surely if they had any value the administrator should have sold them to pay the charities your bottom dwelling club cheated? Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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11:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them
What trophies?

Your administrators took them down to the high street and cashed them in as scrap metal.
They didn't get the millions it cost you though, but hey, every little helps!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: I'm going to become a Saints fan soon. I might see if I can take some trophies from our cabinet trophy, and bring them over to St Mary's - they won't miss them[/p][/quote]What trophies? Your administrators took them down to the high street and cashed them in as scrap metal. They didn't get the millions it cost you though, but hey, every little helps! Ach I The Noo
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11:25pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Oh dear, the room is spinning. Too much rum. Night Mr Five Atrophy Club. May your beloved club continue to wither and die.
Oh dear, the room is spinning. Too much rum. Night Mr Five Atrophy Club. May your beloved club continue to wither and die. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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11:28pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Ach I The Noo says...

I'd normally be the first to take a swipe at the Saints fans, but if your Pompey fans think that ANYONE in the footballing world takes you seriously or has any respect for you, you're more stupid than these guys say you are!

What you did to footballs reputation is a disgrace. You lot should all be lined up and shot.
I'd normally be the first to take a swipe at the Saints fans, but if your Pompey fans think that ANYONE in the footballing world takes you seriously or has any respect for you, you're more stupid than these guys say you are! What you did to footballs reputation is a disgrace. You lot should all be lined up and shot. Ach I The Noo
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11:29pm Fri 26 Jul 13

MGRA says...

why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.
why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy. MGRA
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11:32pm Fri 26 Jul 13

el caballo santos101 says...

forgetting the minnows for now.

I see there are sill rumours about leandro damiao doing the rounds. does anyone think we stand a chance?
forgetting the minnows for now. I see there are sill rumours about leandro damiao doing the rounds. does anyone think we stand a chance? el caballo santos101
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11:33pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Five Trophies Between Us says...

MGRA wrote:
why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.
apart from Southampton

chortle
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.[/p][/quote]apart from Southampton chortle Five Trophies Between Us
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11:33pm Fri 26 Jul 13

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Ach I The Noo wrote:
I'd normally be the first to take a swipe at the Saints fans, but if your Pompey fans think that ANYONE in the footballing world takes you seriously or has any respect for you, you're more stupid than these guys say you are!

What you did to footballs reputation is a disgrace. You lot should all be lined up and shot.
Lol, Mr Ach I The Noo I think I love you! (No, not really. Its just the rum talking. I really should go to bed.) Anyone going to the new forest show tomorrow?
[quote][p][bold]Ach I The Noo[/bold] wrote: I'd normally be the first to take a swipe at the Saints fans, but if your Pompey fans think that ANYONE in the footballing world takes you seriously or has any respect for you, you're more stupid than these guys say you are! What you did to footballs reputation is a disgrace. You lot should all be lined up and shot.[/p][/quote]Lol, Mr Ach I The Noo I think I love you! (No, not really. Its just the rum talking. I really should go to bed.) Anyone going to the new forest show tomorrow? Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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11:38pm Fri 26 Jul 13

MGRA says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MGRA wrote:
why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.
apart from Southampton

chortle
yes , we can't buy one... we won one... against Man United in one of the most famous games of all time. Why would we want to buy a trophy ? We remember the game , not the trophy. its the difference between real fans and glory hunters. you will learn one day, perhaps not.
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.[/p][/quote]apart from Southampton chortle[/p][/quote]yes , we can't buy one... we won one... against Man United in one of the most famous games of all time. Why would we want to buy a trophy ? We remember the game , not the trophy. its the difference between real fans and glory hunters. you will learn one day, perhaps not. MGRA
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11:40pm Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MGRA wrote:
why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.
apart from Southampton

chortle
As you can see, it's only "Five Leagues Below Us" talking about trophies!

He realised that noone visits thenews.co.uk to comment on who they've signed from which non-league team, so he comes on here to fraternise with the best fans in Hampshire.
(League attendances over the years clearly display this!)

It's quite sweet really! Poor little boy's never experienced a team that can afford it's well deserved success, like southampton.
Poor guy supports a team who has their fans in charge........ the same fans who think there's nothing wrong with how Portsmouth was previously run ........... He can hear the conference calling him!
[quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.[/p][/quote]apart from Southampton chortle[/p][/quote]As you can see, it's only "Five Leagues Below Us" talking about trophies! He realised that noone visits thenews.co.uk to comment on who they've signed from which non-league team, so he comes on here to fraternise with the best fans in Hampshire. (League attendances over the years clearly display this!) It's quite sweet really! Poor little boy's never experienced a team that can afford it's well deserved success, like southampton. Poor guy supports a team who has their fans in charge........ the same fans who think there's nothing wrong with how Portsmouth was previously run ........... He can hear the conference calling him! gr8saint
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11:49pm Fri 26 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

How about a childish game..........



Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot!
How about a childish game.......... Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot! gr8saint
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12:35am Sat 27 Jul 13

MGRA says...

gr8saint wrote:
How about a childish game..........



Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot!
I have a better one : the next saints fan to post on a pompey forum is a no-life waste of space with nothing better to do.....
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: How about a childish game.......... Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot![/p][/quote]I have a better one : the next saints fan to post on a pompey forum is a no-life waste of space with nothing better to do..... MGRA
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1:06am Sat 27 Jul 13

gr8saint says...

MGRA wrote:
gr8saint wrote:
How about a childish game..........



Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot!
I have a better one : the next saints fan to post on a pompey forum is a no-life waste of space with nothing better to do.....
And the title of "Massive idiot" goes to....... MGRA!

I stay away from the forums, may have commented on thenews, though.
Mainly about how funny it is that your new player wants to take you down again!

At least I have the balls to keep the same login though ..... unlike some Pompey fans on here! lol

Imagine that, you're on here commenting on me posting on there!
Nothing better to do? ;)
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: How about a childish game.......... Next pompey fan to comment on here is a massive idiot![/p][/quote]I have a better one : the next saints fan to post on a pompey forum is a no-life waste of space with nothing better to do.....[/p][/quote]And the title of "Massive idiot" goes to....... MGRA! I stay away from the forums, may have commented on thenews, though. Mainly about how funny it is that your new player wants to take you down again! At least I have the balls to keep the same login though ..... unlike some Pompey fans on here! lol Imagine that, you're on here commenting on me posting on there! Nothing better to do? ;) gr8saint
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2:00am Sat 27 Jul 13

st1halo says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
forgetting the minnows for now.

I see there are sill rumours about leandro damiao doing the rounds. does anyone think we stand a chance?
Can't see it happening mate. He's been stringing Spurs along for a year so doubt he'll suddenly decide to come here. We can hope.

STID
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: forgetting the minnows for now. I see there are sill rumours about leandro damiao doing the rounds. does anyone think we stand a chance?[/p][/quote]Can't see it happening mate. He's been stringing Spurs along for a year so doubt he'll suddenly decide to come here. We can hope. STID st1halo
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2:38pm Sat 27 Jul 13

Matthew Radlett says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.
Lloyd looks quality based on the footage I've watched on Saints player. One for the future too.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: I think Callum Chambers will be full back cover this season, and Lloyd Isgrove may become the speedy wide player we need. Just need a pacy goal scorer, but there's still time to land one.[/p][/quote]Lloyd looks quality based on the footage I've watched on Saints player. One for the future too. Matthew Radlett
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9:10pm Sun 28 Jul 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

gr8saint wrote:
Five Trophies Between Us wrote:
MGRA wrote:
why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.
apart from Southampton

chortle
As you can see, it's only "Five Leagues Below Us" talking about trophies!

He realised that noone visits thenews.co.uk to comment on who they've signed from which non-league team, so he comes on here to fraternise with the best fans in Hampshire.
(League attendances over the years clearly display this!)

It's quite sweet really! Poor little boy's never experienced a team that can afford it's well deserved success, like southampton.
Poor guy supports a team who has their fans in charge........ the same fans who think there's nothing wrong with how Portsmouth was previously run ........... He can hear the conference calling him!
Mate....

the fans don't own the club. They keep saying they do but they don't.
Personally I can't wait for the day they suddenly realised what happened.
[quote][p][bold]gr8saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Five Trophies Between Us[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: why are people talking about "trophies"... anyone can buy a trophy.[/p][/quote]apart from Southampton chortle[/p][/quote]As you can see, it's only "Five Leagues Below Us" talking about trophies! He realised that noone visits thenews.co.uk to comment on who they've signed from which non-league team, so he comes on here to fraternise with the best fans in Hampshire. (League attendances over the years clearly display this!) It's quite sweet really! Poor little boy's never experienced a team that can afford it's well deserved success, like southampton. Poor guy supports a team who has their fans in charge........ the same fans who think there's nothing wrong with how Portsmouth was previously run ........... He can hear the conference calling him![/p][/quote]Mate.... the fans don't own the club. They keep saying they do but they don't. Personally I can't wait for the day they suddenly realised what happened. Stroppy_gramps
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6:27pm Tue 30 Jul 13

malc smith says...

Will we ever get our red and white stripes back ?
Will we ever get our red and white stripes back ? malc smith
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