Saints hammer Pompey in cup

Daily Echo: Sam Gallagher celebrates Sam Gallagher celebrates

Even the most ardent Portsmouth fan would struggle to find any valid comparison between the success of the club’s academy and that of their neighbours at Saints, and that doesn’t look like changing any time soon.

It has to be said that Saints are now a real Premier League force, while Pompey have suffered off-field hardship and find themselves as a League Two club.

But even in the past, the heritage of the Saints Academy has totally eclipsed their rivals from down the M27.

You can hark back to a bygone age of Shearer, Le Tissier, the Wallace brothers etc and carry right on through to Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana and Shaw, to name just a few.

The Pompey cupboard is considerably barer.

Football though doesn’t live in the past, it must never stand still, and both clubs are making a priority on youth a cornerstone of their work.

Pompey have to – finance dictates that.

Saints on the other hand are a club with a philosophical belief in youth development.

It’s built into the bricks and mortar and Nicola Cortese and Mauricio Pochettino, who watched the latest generation from the stands, are the latest to champion it.

That Saints had four 18-year-old academy products on the field at the end of the Manchester City game at the weekend was proof if any was needed.

That isn’t enough for Saints however.

They want more – and soon.

Tonight’s FA Youth Cup third round tie against Pompey at St Mary’s gave the 3,814 in attendance a glimpse of what lies beneath, and what it revealed was encouraging.

Sam Gallagher has already broken onto the very fringes of the first team and looks a real handful. Though Pompey’s under-18 defence was a world away from the Premier League his power, strength and intelligence was just too much for them.

Daily Echo:

Tom Leggett at right back might well have reminded under-18s boss Jason Dodd of himself as a youngster.

Strong defensively, keen to get forward, a real solid, steady eddie but clearly a leader, all those qualities Dodd showed so often during his brilliant playing career at the club.

Jake Hesketh and Josh Sims were also lively threats, the former scoring twice, while in fairness, those playing in the non-glory areas were just as effective.

There wasn’t actually a bad Saints display out there, which is encouraging given the young lads had on their shoulders the pressure of playing at St Mary’s and against Pompey.

Though Saints turn out in the top flight of youth football and Pompey lower down the ladder, they had to prove their superiority on the night, and their win was every bit as comprehensive as the 7-0 scoreline sounded.

Indeed, besieged Pompey keeper Alex Bass was arguably their man of the match and it could have been a lot worse for Pompey if it weren’t for a string of top saves.

Sims had the first good chance of the match after just seven minutes but couldn’t find the target before Gallagher flicked a header just over the bar.

Pompey probably should have taken the lead four minutes later when Kyle Clinton’s short backpass inadvertently played in Lewis Horsburgh.

The striker appeared to be taken by surprise and couldn’t decide whether to finish quickly or attempt to round the keeper and eventually saw Harry Isted make the save.

For all their dominance and pressure it took Saints until 27 minutes to break the deadlock.

Gallagher got down the left and delivered a good cut back to Hesketh who produced a neat finish into the far corner.

After that moment there was only one team in it and it was just a matter of how many Saints would score.

After Bass made a terrific double save from Sims and Gallagher, and then another moments later as the striker produced a shot that was almost a carbon copy of Dani Osvaldo’s goal at the weekend, they did bag one more just before half-time.

Daily Echo:

Unfortunate Pompey diverted a corner into their own six-yard box and a grateful Niall Mason reacted sharply to stab home from close range.The second half was a total Saints rampage as they ran riot and looked capable of scoring at will.

It was 3-0 six minutes after the restart as Hesketh’s shot was saved by Bass only for the alert Gallagher to follow it up and turn home the rebound.

Hesketh scored his second of the night on 61 minutes with a nice flick and finish past Bass.

The fifth came just four minutes later as Gallagher steered a header into the bottom corner after being found by Leggett’s right wing cross.

That left Gallagher chasing a hat-trick and he probably thought it wouldn’t come after Bass kept him out with another inspired save.

But this was a night when everything was going for Saints and duly his third arrived with six minutes remaining.

This time it was more luck than judgement as a left wing cross struck him on the thigh and left Bass helpless as it diverted in off the inside of the near post.

Daily Echo:

Just seconds later second half sub Mark Irvine got in on the act, bursting through down the right and finishing superbly into the far corner.

There was a hint that trouble might flare up at the end of the game as a couple of the 616 Pompey fans tried to make a break for the Saints supporters on the opposite side of the ground but the stewards quickly snuffed that out.

Just as well as nothing should have been allowed to detract from a big night for the young players on show.

The 7-0 scoreline certainly didn’t flatter Saints.

It not only booked them a place in the next round, but underlined that their youth system dominance looks set to continue for some time to come.

Saints: Isted, Leggett, Clinton, Debayo, Targett, Mason Flannigan, Barnes (Irvine 73), Hesketh (Nehemie 77), Sims (Higgins 77), Gallagher.

Pompey: Bass, Hanustrup, Field, Whatmough, Medway, Chaplin (Gill 55), Granger (Nilsen 75), Close, Kim (Rwakarambwe 81), Tarbuck, Horsburgh.

Att: 3,814.

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9:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

swesaint says...

Take that!
Take that! swesaint

9:37pm Tue 10 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Smashing crowd to supports the lads, well done all concerned.
Smashing crowd to supports the lads, well done all concerned. OSPREYSAINT

9:38pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Saintsteve7 says...

I don't think it was too long ago that we had many a sad skate on here dribbling over the Pompey ladies beating saints. What goes around cones around! So I for one will enjoy this win from the youngsters! Well done lads!
I don't think it was too long ago that we had many a sad skate on here dribbling over the Pompey ladies beating saints. What goes around cones around! So I for one will enjoy this win from the youngsters! Well done lads! Saintsteve7

9:41pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

think I might buy a can of 7Up and give it to a Skate I know.....

in other news I was listening in on the youtube commentary and it would appear that several skates go into a fight.... with themselves and one even tried to reach the Saints fans.....

really classy that.
think I might buy a can of 7Up and give it to a Skate I know..... in other news I was listening in on the youtube commentary and it would appear that several skates go into a fight.... with themselves and one even tried to reach the Saints fans..... really classy that. Stroppy_gramps

9:45pm Tue 10 Dec 13

On The Bus says...

Well done Jason Dodd. Job well done. Take a bow.
Well done Jason Dodd. Job well done. Take a bow. On The Bus

9:59pm Tue 10 Dec 13

FindAndDestroy says...

Well, someone has got to show them how it's done isn't it?
Well, someone has got to show them how it's done isn't it? FindAndDestroy

10:00pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

Oh well. Looks like the skunts need to do a bit more scouting at the local rec.
Oh well. Looks like the skunts need to do a bit more scouting at the local rec. Clever Dick

10:05pm Tue 10 Dec 13

BracknellSaint says...

Ahahahahahahahahahah
ahahaahahhahahahhaha
hahaaaa...
What else can you say?
Worlds apart, as usual.
Ahahahahahahahahahah ahahaahahhahahahhaha hahaaaa... What else can you say? Worlds apart, as usual. BracknellSaint

10:07pm Tue 10 Dec 13

donni1437 says...

Well done to the lads, get used to stuffing the skates in the future.
Well done to the lads, get used to stuffing the skates in the future. donni1437

10:09pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Buddy SFC says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Smashing crowd to supports the lads, well done all concerned.
What a great night , haven't had so much fun for ages ......... The Pompey Clowns at the end were just so sad it was pure quality !!

As for the boys , WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS attacking threat coming through ............. The FUTURE IS NOW , THE FUTURE IS RED AND WHITE !!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Smashing crowd to supports the lads, well done all concerned.[/p][/quote]What a great night , haven't had so much fun for ages ......... The Pompey Clowns at the end were just so sad it was pure quality !! As for the boys , WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS attacking threat coming through ............. The FUTURE IS NOW , THE FUTURE IS RED AND WHITE !!!!!!! Buddy SFC

10:17pm Tue 10 Dec 13

legh_langston says...

Meanwhile Manchester City beat Bayern Munich 3-2. But they couldn't beat Saints! Lets get into Europe and show them what we can do!
Meanwhile Manchester City beat Bayern Munich 3-2. But they couldn't beat Saints! Lets get into Europe and show them what we can do! legh_langston

10:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

WECOMING4U says...

On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me ..
On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me .. WECOMING4U

10:25pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Dixons are recruiting for Xmas....
Dixons are recruiting for Xmas.... Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

WECOMING4U wrote:
On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me ..
Seven golden goals.......
[quote][p][bold]WECOMING4U[/bold] wrote: On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me ..[/p][/quote]Seven golden goals....... Sir Ad E Noid

10:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Meribelsaint says...

Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright. Meribelsaint

10:29pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Sir Ad E Noid says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
WECOMING4U wrote:
On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me ..
Seven golden goals.......
Couldn't be bothered with the other three.....
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WECOMING4U[/bold] wrote: On the tenth day of Christmas my youth team gave to me ..[/p][/quote]Seven golden goals.......[/p][/quote]Couldn't be bothered with the other three..... Sir Ad E Noid

10:44pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell! Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:38pm Tue 10 Dec 13

florida saint says...

I really thought the skate lads were better than this, or perhaps I have underestimated our u 18s well done lads, the Southampton way is kicking **** .. u t s.
I really thought the skate lads were better than this, or perhaps I have underestimated our u 18s well done lads, the Southampton way is kicking **** .. u t s. florida saint

11:47pm Tue 10 Dec 13

el caballo santos101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
is this going to be on the Christmas re-release of the album? well done seed take a bow, just like our lad should. the future truly is red and a bit of white.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell![/p][/quote]is this going to be on the Christmas re-release of the album? well done seed take a bow, just like our lad should. the future truly is red and a bit of white. el caballo santos101

12:38am Wed 11 Dec 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol Sally Hamilton Original

12:40am Wed 11 Dec 13

andoru says...

@ donni1437

"Well done to the lads, get used to stuffing the skates in the future."

No need. They'll hardly ever play them.
@ donni1437 "Well done to the lads, get used to stuffing the skates in the future." No need. They'll hardly ever play them. andoru

12:50am Wed 11 Dec 13

Sh!tOnLeighPark says...

Sfc: Football Viagra
Sfc: Football Viagra Sh!tOnLeighPark

12:52am Wed 11 Dec 13

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD!
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol[/p][/quote]I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD! Sally Hamilton Original

7:50am Wed 11 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
12 fingers counting
11 players to laugh at
10 fans per minute leaving
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell![/p][/quote]12 fingers counting 11 players to laugh at 10 fans per minute leaving Clever Dick

7:55am Wed 11 Dec 13

miltonnroad76 says...

man city must have found bayern easy after playing saints
man city must have found bayern easy after playing saints miltonnroad76

8:12am Wed 11 Dec 13

Positively4thStreet says...

Academy Alchemy!
Academy Alchemy! Positively4thStreet

8:13am Wed 11 Dec 13

warrens 76 says...

Meribelsaint wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
They started to flounder.
[quote][p][bold]Meribelsaint[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright.[/p][/quote]They started to flounder. warrens 76

8:40am Wed 11 Dec 13

terrence77 says...

@miltonnroad76

Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence
@miltonnroad76 Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence terrence77

8:42am Wed 11 Dec 13

iow-is-red-and-white says...

7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel
7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel iow-is-red-and-white

8:44am Wed 11 Dec 13

iow-is-red-and-white says...

iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel
...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks
[quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: 7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel[/p][/quote]...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks iow-is-red-and-white

8:50am Wed 11 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel
...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks
Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well?
[quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: 7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel[/p][/quote]...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks[/p][/quote]Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well? Clever Dick

8:54am Wed 11 Dec 13

J7junctionseven says...

terrence77 wrote:
@miltonnroad76

Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence
Humour bypass alert
[quote][p][bold]terrence77[/bold] wrote: @miltonnroad76 Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence[/p][/quote]Humour bypass alert J7junctionseven

8:58am Wed 11 Dec 13

southamptonadi says...

thats also the quietest ive ever hearthe pompy fans leave.I wonder what they left for us in the kingsland. Some of those boysill soon have a chance in the first team. A great way to start a cup run.
thats also the quietest ive ever hearthe pompy fans leave.I wonder what they left for us in the kingsland. Some of those boysill soon have a chance in the first team. A great way to start a cup run. southamptonadi

9:05am Wed 11 Dec 13

Boarhunt Saint says...

I think the report on the match was absolutely spot on! Exactly to the facts! The future is bright looking at these youngsters coming through!
Shame about the poor Policing after the game outside of the ground though, it was a complete debacle! Thank goodness it was only an Under 18's game & not a Cup game!
I think the report on the match was absolutely spot on! Exactly to the facts! The future is bright looking at these youngsters coming through! Shame about the poor Policing after the game outside of the ground though, it was a complete debacle! Thank goodness it was only an Under 18's game & not a Cup game! Boarhunt Saint

9:07am Wed 11 Dec 13

Santa Retfordia says...

This was a really nice piece. Cheers Echo!
This was a really nice piece. Cheers Echo! Santa Retfordia

9:11am Wed 11 Dec 13

iow-is-red-and-white says...

Clever Dick wrote:
iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel
...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks
Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well?
May stop them (s)pouting their usual brainless comments
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: 7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel[/p][/quote]...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks[/p][/quote]Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well?[/p][/quote]May stop them (s)pouting their usual brainless comments iow-is-red-and-white

9:54am Wed 11 Dec 13

Blackwaterblue says...

Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.
Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though. Blackwaterblue

9:56am Wed 11 Dec 13

worried of n e hampshire says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Meribelsaint wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
They started to flounder.
he got battered!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Meribelsaint[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright.[/p][/quote]They started to flounder.[/p][/quote]he got battered! worried of n e hampshire

10:18am Wed 11 Dec 13

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE FORCE IN THE SOUTH.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

COYR
WE ARE THE NUMBER ONE FORCE IN THE SOUTH. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

10:29am Wed 11 Dec 13

redsnapper says...

Off thread but pretty much as everything has been said about the useless tossers to the East.

+seems to be some speculation that Julio Cesar at QPR wants a change of club --wonder if we are looking, although Gazza looked fine against Citeh.
Off thread but pretty much as everything has been said about the useless tossers to the East. +seems to be some speculation that Julio Cesar at QPR wants a change of club --wonder if we are looking, although Gazza looked fine against Citeh. redsnapper

11:25am Wed 11 Dec 13

Confucious says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Meribelsaint wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
They started to flounder.
he got battered!
The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!"

Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Meribelsaint[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright.[/p][/quote]They started to flounder.[/p][/quote]he got battered![/p][/quote]The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!" Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0. Confucious

11:52am Wed 11 Dec 13

kinkyboots09 says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
Pompey are out i'm a fraid..but would have been nice
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol[/p][/quote]Pompey are out i'm a fraid..but would have been nice kinkyboots09

11:55am Wed 11 Dec 13

Positively4thStreet says...

When minnows get caught..the net bulges. (Apologies to E Cantona ).
When minnows get caught..the net bulges. (Apologies to E Cantona ). Positively4thStreet

12:19pm Wed 11 Dec 13

SouthLondonSaint says...

I went to the game last night and firstly migh i say congratulations to the lads some great performances out there. Also i did see the some trouble in a pub after the game but was it more widespread than that?
I went to the game last night and firstly migh i say congratulations to the lads some great performances out there. Also i did see the some trouble in a pub after the game but was it more widespread than that? SouthLondonSaint

1:16pm Wed 11 Dec 13

saintkenny says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.
the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.[/p][/quote]the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts saintkenny

1:19pm Wed 11 Dec 13

kiddynamite says...

nice to see saints scored the amount of goals your average skate supporter can count on one hand!!!
nice to see saints scored the amount of goals your average skate supporter can count on one hand!!! kiddynamite

1:20pm Wed 11 Dec 13

2getheras1 says...

Confucious wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Meribelsaint wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
They started to flounder.
he got battered!
The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!"

Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0.
Should have scored 8. Looked like a bunch of octo-**** to me
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Meribelsaint[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright.[/p][/quote]They started to flounder.[/p][/quote]he got battered![/p][/quote]The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!" Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0.[/p][/quote]Should have scored 8. Looked like a bunch of octo-**** to me 2getheras1

1:21pm Wed 11 Dec 13

2getheras1 says...

2getheras1 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Meribelsaint wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass?
Well played lads, the future really is very bright.
They started to flounder.
he got battered!
The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!"

Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0.
Should have scored 8. Looked like a bunch of octo-**** to me
octo-puss1es (**** you Echo!)
[quote][p][bold]2getheras1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Meribelsaint[/bold] wrote: Am I the only one who finds it rather funny that the skates goalie is A Bass? Well played lads, the future really is very bright.[/p][/quote]They started to flounder.[/p][/quote]he got battered![/p][/quote]The basstard skates certainly did not have a whale of a time once the turbot-charged Saints got in tuna. "Cod this is bad, eely bad." I heard one of them carping on. "I've haddock enough of this plaice!" Wish I'd put a ten squid bet on 7-0.[/p][/quote]Should have scored 8. Looked like a bunch of octo-**** to me[/p][/quote]octo-puss1es (**** you Echo!) 2getheras1

1:32pm Wed 11 Dec 13

right back in the bar says...

More compelling evidence to support the increasingly widely held belief among more enlightened commentators on the game, that SFC are on an inexorable rise to becoming a dominant force in European football.
More compelling evidence to support the increasingly widely held belief among more enlightened commentators on the game, that SFC are on an inexorable rise to becoming a dominant force in European football. right back in the bar

1:40pm Wed 11 Dec 13

DisplacedFan says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
12 fingers counting
11 players to laugh at
10 fans per minute leaving
Nine sisters laying
Eight sheep are baying
Seven cheques are bouncing
Six slums expanding
five big brown rings
Four calling skates
Three numpties
Two workers at the academy
And a shirt buried in the wall
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell![/p][/quote]12 fingers counting 11 players to laugh at 10 fans per minute leaving[/p][/quote]Nine sisters laying Eight sheep are baying Seven cheques are bouncing Six slums expanding five big brown rings Four calling skates Three numpties Two workers at the academy And a shirt buried in the wall DisplacedFan

2:05pm Wed 11 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

terrence77 wrote:
@miltonnroad76

Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence
Bayern would have been trying to win to keep the top spot and very nearly blew it, serve them right if they fielded a weakened team.
[quote][p][bold]terrence77[/bold] wrote: @miltonnroad76 Please get real with your comment Bayern was already qualified and they tried players who got back from injuries to get them gaming time. So my friends your comment is irrelevant ! no offence[/p][/quote]Bayern would have been trying to win to keep the top spot and very nearly blew it, serve them right if they fielded a weakened team. OSPREYSAINT

2:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

We are being noticed!
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2521833/Af
ter-Walcott-Bale-Lal
lana-Shaw-generation
-Saints-players-maki
ng-themselves.html
We are being noticed! http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2521833/Af ter-Walcott-Bale-Lal lana-Shaw-generation -Saints-players-maki ng-themselves.html OSPREYSAINT

3:02pm Wed 11 Dec 13

pompey in spain says...

gotta be honest.........seedh
ouse you are a funny man!
gotta be honest.........seedh ouse you are a funny man! pompey in spain

3:02pm Wed 11 Dec 13

terrence77 says...

@OSPREYSAINT

Still that Bayern side is amazing to watch they are way better than Barca and their boring tika tika football ! Bayern is a great example to follow in youth set up as Lahm, Kroos, Muller, Alaba, Julian Green,Schweinsteiger
,Contento are all world class and learn their football in Bayern Academy hopefully Shaw and Prowse can start something big like Bayern
@OSPREYSAINT Still that Bayern side is amazing to watch they are way better than Barca and their boring tika tika football ! Bayern is a great example to follow in youth set up as Lahm, Kroos, Muller, Alaba, Julian Green,Schweinsteiger ,Contento are all world class and learn their football in Bayern Academy hopefully Shaw and Prowse can start something big like Bayern terrence77

3:48pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Blackwaterblue says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD!
Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go.
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol[/p][/quote]I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD![/p][/quote]Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go. Blackwaterblue

3:49pm Wed 11 Dec 13

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
You get the platinum award for outstanding service to Football Banter!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell![/p][/quote]You get the platinum award for outstanding service to Football Banter! george chivers

3:56pm Wed 11 Dec 13

warrens 76 says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD!
Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go.
When were you at the top?
..and remember the bile and true venom comes from Portsea to us not vice versa
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol[/p][/quote]I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD![/p][/quote]Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go.[/p][/quote]When were you at the top? ..and remember the bile and true venom comes from Portsea to us not vice versa warrens 76

3:59pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Blackwaterblue says...

saintkenny wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.
the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts
A lot of what you say is right on he button Saintkenny. But, when you're only a supporter what do you do? Saints supporters would have done exactly as we have! Actually I think out debts will be cleared in a year or two and I think with the Supporters owning the club (true) we can get back to the Championship, but to get any further we will need an Investor as you say. (P.S. Your grammar needs a little attention)
[quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.[/p][/quote]the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts[/p][/quote]A lot of what you say is right on he button Saintkenny. But, when you're only a supporter what do you do? Saints supporters would have done exactly as we have! Actually I think out debts will be cleared in a year or two and I think with the Supporters owning the club (true) we can get back to the Championship, but to get any further we will need an Investor as you say. (P.S. Your grammar needs a little attention) Blackwaterblue

3:59pm Wed 11 Dec 13

bigfella777 says...

I didn't know they had 616 fans that's more than they get at their plaice. I suppose they have to start on a small scale. I'm suprised Saints fans weren't doing the conger after the game. The skates must be loosing the whale to carry on.
I didn't know they had 616 fans that's more than they get at their plaice. I suppose they have to start on a small scale. I'm suprised Saints fans weren't doing the conger after the game. The skates must be loosing the whale to carry on. bigfella777

4:07pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Blackwaterblue says...

bigfella777 wrote:
I didn't know they had 616 fans that's more than they get at their plaice. I suppose they have to start on a small scale. I'm suprised Saints fans weren't doing the conger after the game. The skates must be loosing the whale to carry on.
Enjoy - I'm told that's the first time you've beaten us since 2005!
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: I didn't know they had 616 fans that's more than they get at their plaice. I suppose they have to start on a small scale. I'm suprised Saints fans weren't doing the conger after the game. The skates must be loosing the whale to carry on.[/p][/quote]Enjoy - I'm told that's the first time you've beaten us since 2005! Blackwaterblue

4:18pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Blackwaterblue says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol
I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD!
Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go.
When were you at the top?
..and remember the bile and true venom comes from Portsea to us not vice versa
It goes both ways, but I don't understand why. The best years (very few) are when we have Derby Games and I'd like to see them again, but I guess not for a very long time!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Love it... I 7-1 think that the Pompey skates have nothing to hold on to than some game many years ago... Can't wait to play you in the FA cup to get revenge over your "bought but you couldn't afford" team...oh.. Hold on...we don't even get that chance because you can't even get into the draw... So sad... Oh well we move forwards, carry on taking 3 steps back! You are an absolute disgrace but I love the fact you an absolute laughing stock through and through ! Keep it up! Lol[/p][/quote]I only put the "1" in there because it sounded so much better... But they couldn't even muster that ... If you all hate Pompey clap your hands!! How sick must they feel........GOOD![/p][/quote]Well, that's not a very nice Christmas spirit! You should be sorry for us. How about a little bit of humility? Some times in life things turn around quickly (Look at us for an example), so be aware of the future. When you're at the top, there's only one way to go.[/p][/quote]When were you at the top? ..and remember the bile and true venom comes from Portsea to us not vice versa[/p][/quote]It goes both ways, but I don't understand why. The best years (very few) are when we have Derby Games and I'd like to see them again, but I guess not for a very long time! Blackwaterblue

4:39pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Over the Edge says...

Took my Mrs and Niece to the game, My Niece loved it, My Mrs thought is was horrible, she was surprised by the hated shown to fishy few by the 3,200 wonderfully polite Saints fans, she doesn't want to go to football again, double result from last night. Nothing better than baiting Skates on a Tuesday night, sure beat the hell out of watching Eastenders. Well done lads.
Took my Mrs and Niece to the game, My Niece loved it, My Mrs thought is was horrible, she was surprised by the hated shown to fishy few by the 3,200 wonderfully polite Saints fans, she doesn't want to go to football again, double result from last night. Nothing better than baiting Skates on a Tuesday night, sure beat the hell out of watching Eastenders. Well done lads. Over the Edge

4:49pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Buddy SFC says...

Clever Dick wrote:
iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
iow-is-red-and-white wrote:
7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel
...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks
Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well?
Couldn't tell ?????????
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iow-is-red-and-white[/bold] wrote: 7-0 is a scar that will take a long time to 'eel[/p][/quote]...and their tactics must have been a load of pollocks[/p][/quote]Didn't go. Was there a horrible (s)tench coming from their supporters? And were they all males or did some of their old trouts turn up as well?[/p][/quote]Couldn't tell ????????? Buddy SFC

4:51pm Wed 11 Dec 13

St Retford says...

The trouble with this result is that we don't know how many Pompey were being paid to let in on behalf of some secretive Asian betting syndicate. It takes all the joy out of beating them.
The trouble with this result is that we don't know how many Pompey were being paid to let in on behalf of some secretive Asian betting syndicate. It takes all the joy out of beating them. St Retford

5:33pm Wed 11 Dec 13

REDARMYRULETHESOUTH says...

Over the Edge wrote:
Took my Mrs and Niece to the game, My Niece loved it, My Mrs thought is was horrible, she was surprised by the hated shown to fishy few by the 3,200 wonderfully polite Saints fans, she doesn't want to go to football again, double result from last night. Nothing better than baiting Skates on a Tuesday night, sure beat the hell out of watching Eastenders. Well done lads.
WLFILN

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: Took my Mrs and Niece to the game, My Niece loved it, My Mrs thought is was horrible, she was surprised by the hated shown to fishy few by the 3,200 wonderfully polite Saints fans, she doesn't want to go to football again, double result from last night. Nothing better than baiting Skates on a Tuesday night, sure beat the hell out of watching Eastenders. Well done lads.[/p][/quote]WLFILN RED ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMY REDARMYRULETHESOUTH

5:42pm Wed 11 Dec 13

st1halo says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Nine skates a skating
Eight owners a laundering
Seven golden goals
Six games a throwing
Five charities a robbing
Four stands a crumbling
Three Administrations
Two FA cups
and a wankerwith a bell!
Excellent.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Nine skates a skating Eight owners a laundering Seven golden goals Six games a throwing Five charities a robbing Four stands a crumbling Three Administrations Two FA cups and a wankerwith a bell![/p][/quote]Excellent. STID st1halo

6:46pm Wed 11 Dec 13

El Santo says...

Excellent article by Adam Leitch. The Intro is absolutely fantastic and well documented. This victory is nothing but the reflection of a historical and absolute superiority of Saints over Skates.
Excellent article by Adam Leitch. The Intro is absolutely fantastic and well documented. This victory is nothing but the reflection of a historical and absolute superiority of Saints over Skates. El Santo

7:39pm Wed 11 Dec 13

SouthLondonSaint says...

Saints vs Pompey definitely has one of the best atmospheres in English football. I've only been once would be good to see them more regularly, but then I guess it makes it more of an occasion the less frequently it happens. Last night was a great game with a good atmosphere and I had a great time 7-0!! Have to say fair play to Pompey support they did show up in numbers and must have expected to get battered and most stayed to the end.

When I was just a little boy I asked my mother......
Saints vs Pompey definitely has one of the best atmospheres in English football. I've only been once would be good to see them more regularly, but then I guess it makes it more of an occasion the less frequently it happens. Last night was a great game with a good atmosphere and I had a great time 7-0!! Have to say fair play to Pompey support they did show up in numbers and must have expected to get battered and most stayed to the end. When I was just a little boy I asked my mother...... SouthLondonSaint

7:43pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Baybrit says...

I've hardly taken any interest in what Pompey are doing for months, does that makes me a bad Saints fan? LOL.
I've hardly taken any interest in what Pompey are doing for months, does that makes me a bad Saints fan? LOL. Baybrit

8:01pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Rocket 1 says...

Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............
....................
......
Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............ .................... ...... Rocket 1

8:17pm Wed 11 Dec 13

J7junctionseven says...

Baybrit wrote:
I've hardly taken any interest in what Pompey are doing for months, does that makes me a bad Saints fan? LOL.
No but you've missed some good laughs. Don't worry about it though as it could get even more hilarious as the rest of the season unfolds.
WTFILN
[quote][p][bold]Baybrit[/bold] wrote: I've hardly taken any interest in what Pompey are doing for months, does that makes me a bad Saints fan? LOL.[/p][/quote]No but you've missed some good laughs. Don't worry about it though as it could get even more hilarious as the rest of the season unfolds. WTFILN J7junctionseven

8:30pm Wed 11 Dec 13

miltonnroad76 says...

Rocket 1 wrote:
Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............

....................

......
hahahah good stuff!
[quote][p][bold]Rocket 1[/bold] wrote: Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............ .................... ......[/p][/quote]hahahah good stuff! miltonnroad76

9:11pm Wed 11 Dec 13

RalphM says...

I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s. RalphM

9:22pm Wed 11 Dec 13

st1halo says...

RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
[quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise. st1halo

9:49pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Tony in Liberia says...

To quote WIlliam Shakespeare, "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is often buried with their bones" ...

Rupert was a complete tanker, but he did the odd good thing for Saints and, while overall he deserves to be remembered without much fanfare, we should pay due respect for the things he did do right.

And also, let's face it, we were all bl**dy delighted when he got Harry Rednapp here in the first place - I remember St Mary's rocking to "Harry & Jim are Red & White" several times, before the reality of what a bad decision that actually was cut in...
To quote WIlliam Shakespeare, "The evil that men do lives after them; the good is often buried with their bones" ... Rupert was a complete tanker, but he did the odd good thing for Saints and, while overall he deserves to be remembered without much fanfare, we should pay due respect for the things he did do right. And also, let's face it, we were all bl**dy delighted when he got Harry Rednapp here in the first place - I remember St Mary's rocking to "Harry & Jim are Red & White" several times, before the reality of what a bad decision that actually was cut in... Tony in Liberia

10:02pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Baddesley Bill says...

st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place. Baddesley Bill

12:49am Thu 12 Dec 13

Northamer says...

Blackwaterblue wrote:
saintkenny wrote:
Blackwaterblue wrote:
Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.
the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts
A lot of what you say is right on he button Saintkenny. But, when you're only a supporter what do you do? Saints supporters would have done exactly as we have! Actually I think out debts will be cleared in a year or two and I think with the Supporters owning the club (true) we can get back to the Championship, but to get any further we will need an Investor as you say. (P.S. Your grammar needs a little attention)
His grammar needs a little attention.........re
ad your own post again!
[quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintkenny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blackwaterblue[/bold] wrote: Congratulations to Saints for concentrating on the youth setup for so many years. We are light years behind but at least, now we are run by the fans, we are trying to improve our youth set up. It'll take a long time though.[/p][/quote]the fans do own it but only because trevor birch after 15 months of trying could not get a buyer was it any wonder with players wages owed till 2018 who was going to buy a load of debt .without the fans buying the club it would of folded .chanting about being owned by the fans is nothing to be proud of it was a forced issue there were no other options it was .fans buy the club or it folds all together simple as that .makes me laugh why pompey fans say were owned by the fans .later if assets are created like the saints have stadium training ground then it will be sold to buyer .if in either the top 2 leagues the fans wont be able to afford the stadium or the training ground only by a sponser like saints did with freinds provident .this all could take 20 to 30 years next season your bottom league still going nowhere with 4 years to clear debts[/p][/quote]A lot of what you say is right on he button Saintkenny. But, when you're only a supporter what do you do? Saints supporters would have done exactly as we have! Actually I think out debts will be cleared in a year or two and I think with the Supporters owning the club (true) we can get back to the Championship, but to get any further we will need an Investor as you say. (P.S. Your grammar needs a little attention)[/p][/quote]His grammar needs a little attention.........re ad your own post again! Northamer

2:46am Thu 12 Dec 13

st1halo says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID st1halo

3:42am Thu 12 Dec 13

ctsaint says...

st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that. ctsaint

7:05am Thu 12 Dec 13

circa 66 saint says...

Rocket 1 wrote:
Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............

....................

......
Is that the 2-2 draw with 1 sending off and 2 bookings or the 2-2 draw with 2 red cards and 5 yellows.
[quote][p][bold]Rocket 1[/bold] wrote: Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............ .................... ......[/p][/quote]Is that the 2-2 draw with 1 sending off and 2 bookings or the 2-2 draw with 2 red cards and 5 yellows. circa 66 saint

7:05am Thu 12 Dec 13

circa 66 saint says...

Rocket 1 wrote:
Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............

....................

......
Is that the 2-2 draw with 1 sending off and 2 bookings or the 2-2 draw with 2 red cards and 5 yellows.
[quote][p][bold]Rocket 1[/bold] wrote: Portsmouth Football Club have been cleared of "ALL match fixing allegations" after judges ruled that it was too obvious that they were going to lose, the judges even consulted "ARRY'S Dog to confirm this........ "ARRY" was unavailable for a comment, he was somewhere, Off-Shore in a Bank withdrawing some Money, but I have heard that one of the Players accused has said that he is 100% innocent and hopes to feature in the 2-2 draw with Millwall on Saturday............ .................... ......[/p][/quote]Is that the 2-2 draw with 1 sending off and 2 bookings or the 2-2 draw with 2 red cards and 5 yellows. circa 66 saint

7:16am Thu 12 Dec 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

nice rose tinted glasses there.

the only reason the academy was kept going was purely down to the fact that it kept producing players he could sell on for good money.
The only thing he did that was ok was build St Mary's - and even that was built in the wrong place.

How anyone can say that Lowe was in any way good for the club is beyond me. The rot started when he took over and it finished when he was sent packing.
nice rose tinted glasses there. the only reason the academy was kept going was purely down to the fact that it kept producing players he could sell on for good money. The only thing he did that was ok was build St Mary's - and even that was built in the wrong place. How anyone can say that Lowe was in any way good for the club is beyond me. The rot started when he took over and it finished when he was sent packing. Stroppy_gramps

9:39am Thu 12 Dec 13

Clever Dick says...

I think there are some very harsh comments about Wupert on here. Personally I think the appointment of Sir Clive Woodford was a master stroke. After all anybody can be a football manager can't they? Quack quack.
I think there are some very harsh comments about Wupert on here. Personally I think the appointment of Sir Clive Woodford was a master stroke. After all anybody can be a football manager can't they? Quack quack. Clever Dick

11:38am Thu 12 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
You cannot give Rupert a lot of credit for the Stadium, his plan was for a Stadium at Stoneham and that was completely fouled up by duff planning which got it thrown out by the NIMBY Councils involved, Southampton City Council haven't got a great reputation, but for once they stepped in and sorted a site which enabled the Club to realise its dream, in hindsight Stoneham would not have been large enough, so there was a silver lining here, we have a Stadium that can be expanded should the need arise. As for being in the wrong place, where else could it have gone, some say the old Power Station site by the Cenral Station, if that was the case the whole road infrastructure would have had to be remoulded, the area simply cannot cope with normal traffic now. There are very few sites left that could match the current set up. St. Marys is after all where it all began so is an appropriate location. A Rail station would finish it off nicely and reduce the traffic considerably if planned sensibly.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]You cannot give Rupert a lot of credit for the Stadium, his plan was for a Stadium at Stoneham and that was completely fouled up by duff planning which got it thrown out by the NIMBY Councils involved, Southampton City Council haven't got a great reputation, but for once they stepped in and sorted a site which enabled the Club to realise its dream, in hindsight Stoneham would not have been large enough, so there was a silver lining here, we have a Stadium that can be expanded should the need arise. As for being in the wrong place, where else could it have gone, some say the old Power Station site by the Cenral Station, if that was the case the whole road infrastructure would have had to be remoulded, the area simply cannot cope with normal traffic now. There are very few sites left that could match the current set up. St. Marys is after all where it all began so is an appropriate location. A Rail station would finish it off nicely and reduce the traffic considerably if planned sensibly. OSPREYSAINT

11:41am Thu 12 Dec 13

st1halo says...

ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples.
Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him.
By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves.


STID
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.[/p][/quote]Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples. Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him. By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves. STID st1halo

11:56am Thu 12 Dec 13

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12:20pm Thu 12 Dec 13

ctsaint says...

st1halo wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples.
Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him.
By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves.


STID
Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.[/p][/quote]Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples. Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him. By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves. STID[/p][/quote]Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ...... ctsaint

4:11pm Thu 12 Dec 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples.
Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him.
By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves.


STID
Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......
Can we move on please, we have discussed this ad nauseam in the past, it is history, we are over it and looking forward to the future not worrying about the past, leave that to the Skates, it is all they have.
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.[/p][/quote]Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples. Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him. By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves. STID[/p][/quote]Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......[/p][/quote]Can we move on please, we have discussed this ad nauseam in the past, it is history, we are over it and looking forward to the future not worrying about the past, leave that to the Skates, it is all they have. OSPREYSAINT

4:55pm Thu 12 Dec 13

st1halo says...

ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples.
Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him.
By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves.


STID
Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......
You omitted the most glaring fact of all. We were a heartbeat away from being wound up, extinction. No matter what infrastructure was in place he played russian roulette with the club. Did he make any comments or help in any way when we were in that situation? No.
You may not think that the cost of legal action bears an impact on investment but when you consider the net investment per season was 250K throughout his teure, you may think otherwise, a figure that he was prepared to pay 3fold to secure the services of his friend Woodward and all this despite record gates, cup final appearances, home draws, record shirt sales. Why do you think fans voted with their feet?
It was an absolute stroke of luck that Markus was the buyer and saw the potential. It could easily have been SISU.
Its not a subject I want to continue to debate, as Ospers says it's history, you're entitled to your opinion and obviously like the guy, I don't.
To put my own feelings simply - Would I thank the guy, who shot me in the face and left me for dead, for not killing me? No. Never.

STID
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.[/p][/quote]Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples. Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him. By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves. STID[/p][/quote]Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......[/p][/quote]You omitted the most glaring fact of all. We were a heartbeat away from being wound up, extinction. No matter what infrastructure was in place he played russian roulette with the club. Did he make any comments or help in any way when we were in that situation? No. You may not think that the cost of legal action bears an impact on investment but when you consider the net investment per season was 250K throughout his teure, you may think otherwise, a figure that he was prepared to pay 3fold to secure the services of his friend Woodward and all this despite record gates, cup final appearances, home draws, record shirt sales. Why do you think fans voted with their feet? It was an absolute stroke of luck that Markus was the buyer and saw the potential. It could easily have been SISU. Its not a subject I want to continue to debate, as Ospers says it's history, you're entitled to your opinion and obviously like the guy, I don't. To put my own feelings simply - Would I thank the guy, who shot me in the face and left me for dead, for not killing me? No. Never. STID st1halo

6:53pm Thu 12 Dec 13

J7junctionseven says...

st1halo wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
ctsaint wrote:
st1halo wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
st1halo wrote:
RalphM wrote:
I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert
Are you Rupert in disguise
Are you Ruupeert in disguise.
I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented).

The academy was kept going under his watch
The stadium was built under his watch

I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility.

Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.
Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article.

Made in Southampton.

STID
Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.
Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples.
Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him.
By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves.


STID
Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......
You omitted the most glaring fact of all. We were a heartbeat away from being wound up, extinction. No matter what infrastructure was in place he played russian roulette with the club. Did he make any comments or help in any way when we were in that situation? No.
You may not think that the cost of legal action bears an impact on investment but when you consider the net investment per season was 250K throughout his teure, you may think otherwise, a figure that he was prepared to pay 3fold to secure the services of his friend Woodward and all this despite record gates, cup final appearances, home draws, record shirt sales. Why do you think fans voted with their feet?
It was an absolute stroke of luck that Markus was the buyer and saw the potential. It could easily have been SISU.
Its not a subject I want to continue to debate, as Ospers says it's history, you're entitled to your opinion and obviously like the guy, I don't.
To put my own feelings simply - Would I thank the guy, who shot me in the face and left me for dead, for not killing me? No. Never.

STID
BOOM!....In a nutshell!....Line drawn and opinions considered, digested and locked away
Good debate
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st1halo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RalphM[/bold] wrote: I still think when it comes to our youth set up we still have a lot to thank Rupert Lowe for. There's maybe lots we don't but he had the vision for us to be a leader in developing Youth which has shown in the likes of Bale, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Dyer etc. Considering many of the current crop coming though came to us around the age of 8 that is up to 10 years ago for the under 18s.[/p][/quote]Are you Rupert Are you Rupert Are you Rupert in disguise Are you Ruupeert in disguise.[/p][/quote]I actually think that Wupert did a few good things (as well as a lot of bad things as is well documented). The academy was kept going under his watch The stadium was built under his watch I'm not trying to vindicate Rupert Lowe as a legend (he aint)....but he did see the potential...just couldn't back it up with hard cash and credibility. Think what you like....but I don't think Markus would have even checked us out without the infrastructure Lowe helped put in place.[/p][/quote]Call me Mr.Cynical but I tend to think he saw pound signs rather than potential. He carried on with a tradition that we had long before he arrived but the success of the club was not the objective, the reason I think this is that the investment in the squad was minimal throughout his tenure. I liken him to a diamond miner, he unearthed some valuable stones and sold them for profit, what we have now is the jeweller, taking/ cutting and polishing the stones and creating something stunning and unique whilst increasing in value and reputation. One may depend on the other but there is a vast difference between the miner and the master-craftsman and they cannot be afforded praise in equal measure for the finished article. Made in Southampton. STID[/p][/quote]Don't agree I am afraid, Rupert did what he could with very limited resources and did as good a job as anyone could. He kept out finances steady , building the stadium and academy along the way . He didn't take wild mad gambles leaving us with debt that would swamp us , he didn't and doesn't have the cash that modern day football requires , for all you may say he was sensible and invested in the right things with the resources available to him. The Leiberhs are billionaires and thankfully they understood the value of the foundations that had been built and they had the money and Corteses vision to buy a premier league infrastructure with the only debt being the mortgage on the stadium and a 6m overdraft.... Made the deal at £14m to clear the debt plus some investment capital a no brainer (if you have billions) . We laud and praise MLT but had his consortium got hold of the club we would still be in league one......with a pile of debt no doubt. Well done Rupert for being shrewd and level headed in the face of a footballing environment that changed beyond recognition during his tenure. I don't expect many fans to understand that.[/p][/quote]Sorry ct but I don't concur. As a shareholder at the time I recieved accounts and there was plenty of money there, it's how it was invested at the time, for example, no investment in the team but money for the lawyers to pay for a libel case. I could list many examples. Markus may have picked up a good deal when he bought this club but when Lowe drove the club to the brink of oblivion, he did not know and did not care whether we survived or not. He was gone and took plenty of money with him. By the grace of the Administrators and fans helping along the way we made it to the end of the season and found a buyer. For all Lowe cared we could have been wound up and the stadium scrapped and this great club would have disappeared for good, so you will appreciate why I wll never EVER praise that man. The facts speak for themselves. STID[/p][/quote]Yep and the facts are , we had the lowest gates and in one at the Dell, however it happened the stadium was built at our spiritual home, the academy WAS investd in and the books balanced until relegation. Now he was responsible for some poor decisions in selecting a manager (on several occasions) , not sure the quantum of cash for lawyers on a liable case would cut it in terms if investment required once we slipped through the trap door. I for one am grateful for the stadium and academy as that is what saved us, if he was the Chairman and major shareholder at the time he must have sanctioned both ......[/p][/quote]You omitted the most glaring fact of all. We were a heartbeat away from being wound up, extinction. No matter what infrastructure was in place he played russian roulette with the club. Did he make any comments or help in any way when we were in that situation? No. You may not think that the cost of legal action bears an impact on investment but when you consider the net investment per season was 250K throughout his teure, you may think otherwise, a figure that he was prepared to pay 3fold to secure the services of his friend Woodward and all this despite record gates, cup final appearances, home draws, record shirt sales. Why do you think fans voted with their feet? It was an absolute stroke of luck that Markus was the buyer and saw the potential. It could easily have been SISU. Its not a subject I want to continue to debate, as Ospers says it's history, you're entitled to your opinion and obviously like the guy, I don't. To put my own feelings simply - Would I thank the guy, who shot me in the face and left me for dead, for not killing me? No. Never. STID[/p][/quote]BOOM!....In a nutshell!....Line drawn and opinions considered, digested and locked away Good debate COYR FOADP J7junctionseven

10:53pm Thu 12 Dec 13

ctsaint says...

Fairy muff, we are where we are and nobody could ever have imagined that ! Onwards and upwards COYR
Fairy muff, we are where we are and nobody could ever have imagined that ! Onwards and upwards COYR ctsaint

1:26am Fri 13 Dec 13

st1halo says...

ctsaint wrote:
Fairy muff, we are where we are and nobody could ever have imagined that ! Onwards and upwards COYR
Absolutely! :-)

STID
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: Fairy muff, we are where we are and nobody could ever have imagined that ! Onwards and upwards COYR[/p][/quote]Absolutely! :-) STID st1halo

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