Liebherr: No players to be sold

Daily Echo: KATHARINA LIEBHERR KATHARINA LIEBHERR

Saints chairman Katharina Liebherr insists that no players are for sale this month.

The departure of Nicola Cortese has led to fears that the likes of Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana could be sold during the January transfer window.

But Liebherr has said: “The Club has no plans to sell any of the squad during the January transfer window.

“The manager and the team have my full support.”

Liebherr installed herself as non-executive chairman following Cortese's resignation as executive chairman.

 

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1:37pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

Well done Katharina. I know the wording 'no plans' leaves the door slightly ajar for crazy offers, but that's only normal and, frankly, honest.

You shouldn't necessarily have to come out with this sort of statement so quickly, but with all the stirring from the media and people who want to get their hands on our players it is an astute move that the players, fans and manager will appreciate. Thank you.
Well done Katharina. I know the wording 'no plans' leaves the door slightly ajar for crazy offers, but that's only normal and, frankly, honest. You shouldn't necessarily have to come out with this sort of statement so quickly, but with all the stirring from the media and people who want to get their hands on our players it is an astute move that the players, fans and manager will appreciate. Thank you. SaintJD

1:44pm Fri 17 Jan 14

tharg64 says...

Good to hear Katharina.

Now, how about ensuring Poch stays on after the end of this term?
Good to hear Katharina. Now, how about ensuring Poch stays on after the end of this term? tharg64

1:46pm Fri 17 Jan 14

costa gaz says...

Good news, hopefully the media will actually believe this now and get off our case.
Good news, hopefully the media will actually believe this now and get off our case. costa gaz

1:49pm Fri 17 Jan 14

pap says...

I've no idea what happens to the club long-term, but Katharina has done much to reassure Saints fans over the last few days.

The statement concerning Cortese's resignation was magnaminous and reflected his achievements at the club, and the high regard she had for his abilities. The Guardian reported "eye-watering" and "insane" offers being placed Cortese's way.

Next, MP is committed until at least the end of the season, something many commentators said wouldn't happen based on his May comments.

Now this; confirmation that she is resolved not to sell any players during this transfer window.

Not a bad start under the circumstances.
I've no idea what happens to the club long-term, but Katharina has done much to reassure Saints fans over the last few days. The statement concerning Cortese's resignation was magnaminous and reflected his achievements at the club, and the high regard she had for his abilities. The Guardian reported "eye-watering" and "insane" offers being placed Cortese's way. Next, MP is committed until at least the end of the season, something many commentators said wouldn't happen based on his May comments. Now this; confirmation that she is resolved not to sell any players during this transfer window. Not a bad start under the circumstances. pap

1:50pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

Very interesting interview in the Independent on this, worth a read and shows there are always two sides to every story.
UTS
Very interesting interview in the Independent on this, worth a read and shows there are always two sides to every story. UTS SaintAsh1964

1:50pm Fri 17 Jan 14

bulgariansaints says...

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If true, this is more than great news. But how can we be sure that this is genuine information? Please can You updated and reveal what's behind this statement? Up The Saints in Bulgaria: http://bulgariansain ts.wordpress.com/ bulgariansaints

1:58pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh? SaintAsh1964

2:00pm Fri 17 Jan 14

JohnItaly says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
Very interesting interview in the Independent on this, worth a read and shows there are always two sides to every story.
UTS
Just read that myself - very interesting and enlightening. However as my Mum use to say "there are three sides to every story - your side, my side and some where in between the truth.
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: Very interesting interview in the Independent on this, worth a read and shows there are always two sides to every story. UTS[/p][/quote]Just read that myself - very interesting and enlightening. However as my Mum use to say "there are three sides to every story - your side, my side and some where in between the truth. JohnItaly

2:03pm Fri 17 Jan 14

andoru says...

Great to hear. The aftershocks of Cortese's departure are proving less severe than most of us were anticipating. So far anyway.It appears things are being well handled. I'm a moderately happy bunny.

Now, I don't suppose it would be too cheeky to ask for a little extra cash to spend this January, would it Miss Liebherr? :-)
Great to hear. The aftershocks of Cortese's departure are proving less severe than most of us were anticipating. So far anyway.It appears things are being well handled. I'm a moderately happy bunny. Now, I don't suppose it would be too cheeky to ask for a little extra cash to spend this January, would it Miss Liebherr? :-) andoru

2:15pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saint. says...

Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels! Saint.

2:24pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saintjock says...

Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Can I respectfully plead that "would of" becomes history on this forum. Please make it happen.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]Can I respectfully plead that "would of" becomes history on this forum. Please make it happen. Saintjock

2:24pm Fri 17 Jan 14

BracknellSaint says...

So, skunts..redtops..and in particular Neil Ashton...Ahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahhah
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All made to look such idiots!!!
Made my Friday!
So, skunts..redtops..and in particular Neil Ashton...Ahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaaaaaa !!!! All made to look such idiots!!! Made my Friday! BracknellSaint

2:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Let us not forget one VERY important detail. While Cortese was Markus' friend, Katharina is his daughter. Why should we not trust Markus' own flesh and blood?
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]Let us not forget one VERY important detail. While Cortese was Markus' friend, Katharina is his daughter. Why should we not trust Markus' own flesh and blood? BigBugBuzzz

2:39pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Sir Ad E Noid says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
If you have blanket copied this from elsewhere, thank you. If it's your own words (majority) and assembling all the facts from other sources (copy/paste) then very well done for a clear and concise pen picture of where we are and what lies ahead.
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]If you have blanket copied this from elsewhere, thank you. If it's your own words (majority) and assembling all the facts from other sources (copy/paste) then very well done for a clear and concise pen picture of where we are and what lies ahead. Sir Ad E Noid

2:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Beer Monster says...

"The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action."

Sounds fair enough to me - yes, Cortese has done a great job in his time at Saints, a great thing to have on his CV no fear. Sir Markus trusted him completely and he stayed true to his word even after our owner's untimely death. But...

Whose decision was it to sack Sir Nige? I dare say that the legal wrangles in the aftermath didn't go unnoticed. Maybe Katharina wanted proper boardroom procedures to be implemented so that such situations didn't occur again. Power is a very hard thing to let go of. Look at our former chairman Rupert the bear.

To me, she sounds intelligent enough to be in her current position and I, for one, am glad that she is. Thank you Katharina.
"The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action." Sounds fair enough to me - yes, Cortese has done a great job in his time at Saints, a great thing to have on his CV no fear. Sir Markus trusted him completely and he stayed true to his word even after our owner's untimely death. But... Whose decision was it to sack Sir Nige? I dare say that the legal wrangles in the aftermath didn't go unnoticed. Maybe Katharina wanted proper boardroom procedures to be implemented so that such situations didn't occur again. Power is a very hard thing to let go of. Look at our former chairman Rupert the bear. To me, she sounds intelligent enough to be in her current position and I, for one, am glad that she is. Thank you Katharina. Beer Monster

2:43pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintAsh1964 says...

Sir Ad E Noid wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
If you have blanket copied this from elsewhere, thank you. If it's your own words (majority) and assembling all the facts from other sources (copy/paste) then very well done for a clear and concise pen picture of where we are and what lies ahead.
Well I dont like to blow my own Trumpet, as I cant reach it, but it is from the Independent and not my work, but still interesting none the less!
UTS
[quote][p][bold]Sir Ad E Noid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]If you have blanket copied this from elsewhere, thank you. If it's your own words (majority) and assembling all the facts from other sources (copy/paste) then very well done for a clear and concise pen picture of where we are and what lies ahead.[/p][/quote]Well I dont like to blow my own Trumpet, as I cant reach it, but it is from the Independent and not my work, but still interesting none the less! UTS SaintAsh1964

2:44pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club. Alicesdad

2:45pm Fri 17 Jan 14

St Retford says...

I love that woman.

(Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?)
I love that woman. (Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?) St Retford

2:49pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saint. says...

BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Let us not forget one VERY important detail. While Cortese was Markus' friend, Katharina is his daughter. Why should we not trust Markus' own flesh and blood?
With respect to you I think you missed my point totally!
[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]Let us not forget one VERY important detail. While Cortese was Markus' friend, Katharina is his daughter. Why should we not trust Markus' own flesh and blood?[/p][/quote]With respect to you I think you missed my point totally! Saint.

2:58pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

YES ....... 2 days of GOOD NEWS , for all S.F.C. C O Y R
play the game in the way you can . BUSINESS AS USUAL
YES ....... 2 days of GOOD NEWS , for all S.F.C. C O Y R play the game in the way you can . BUSINESS AS USUAL SPIKEISLANDTRADER

3:00pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

There's only one Katherina!
There's only one Katherina! Confucious

3:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

up saints says...

i'am sure katherina will do whats best for the club in memory of her dad.nice to see you have spoken out you be even make the trip to sunderland.
i'am sure katherina will do whats best for the club in memory of her dad.nice to see you have spoken out you be even make the trip to sunderland. up saints

3:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

notaclue says...

Benali has had a phone call from Southampton FC to say he is now welcome back at St Marys!!!!!!
Benali has had a phone call from Southampton FC to say he is now welcome back at St Marys!!!!!! notaclue

3:14pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Chriops says...

Great news. Good article available from the independent too r.e KL and Cortese.

Whats the betting that we now go out and sign someone? Would be a clear message designed to calm the fans down, and show the world of football that we still plan on Champions League footy.
Great news. Good article available from the independent too r.e KL and Cortese. Whats the betting that we now go out and sign someone? Would be a clear message designed to calm the fans down, and show the world of football that we still plan on Champions League footy. Chriops

3:15pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

Sky sports news are reporting on the imminent departures of the director of football and chief scout at Sunderland. I guess it's time for us to take advantage of the instability within that club!
Sky sports news are reporting on the imminent departures of the director of football and chief scout at Sunderland. I guess it's time for us to take advantage of the instability within that club! Clever Dick

3:17pm Fri 17 Jan 14

angus mc coatup says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
So, skunts..redtops..and in particular Neil Ashton...Ahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahhah

ahahahahahahahahahah

ahahahahahahahaaaaaa

!!!!
All made to look such idiots!!!
Made my Friday!
Indeed mate.... that whankpot.. Neil ( make it up as I go along ) Ashton, of the
Daily ( twist the truth a lot ) Mail now looks a right plonker.
Made my day as well.
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So, skunts..redtops..and in particular Neil Ashton...Ahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahhah ahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahaaaaaa !!!! All made to look such idiots!!! Made my Friday![/p][/quote]Indeed mate.... that whankpot.. Neil ( make it up as I go along ) Ashton, of the Daily ( twist the truth a lot ) Mail now looks a right plonker. Made my day as well. angus mc coatup

3:21pm Fri 17 Jan 14

St.David says...

Well done Katherina. . Hope we see you at St.Marys soon :-) coyrs
Well done Katherina. . Hope we see you at St.Marys soon :-) coyrs St.David

3:26pm Fri 17 Jan 14

johnlennonar says...

With all the stuff I´ve read in the papers lately I really want to believe her. But something is telling me to expect the worst :-(
I heard that Chelsea and Man City have made big offers for Hoovield and Man ute are preparing a bid for Danny Fox. So lets hope she stands strong and rejects those bids ;-D HAHAHA LOL
With all the stuff I´ve read in the papers lately I really want to believe her. But something is telling me to expect the worst :-( I heard that Chelsea and Man City have made big offers for Hoovield and Man ute are preparing a bid for Danny Fox. So lets hope she stands strong and rejects those bids ;-D HAHAHA LOL johnlennonar

3:29pm Fri 17 Jan 14

romseyboy says...

how do we know that the lady as not done a Cortese (sack nigel and then got poucy) and sacked him with a even better person to come in and take us forward someone who relates to the fans better can get better class players etc
how do we know that the lady as not done a Cortese (sack nigel and then got poucy) and sacked him with a even better person to come in and take us forward someone who relates to the fans better can get better class players etc romseyboy

3:46pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Oracle Section says...

Patience everyone, Victory will be Kind to all at SFC.
Patience everyone, Victory will be Kind to all at SFC. Oracle Section

3:52pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Barcelona Saint says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table."
What???
We're no way near it!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table." What??? We're no way near it!! Barcelona Saint

3:53pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Outside of the Box says...

Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
I'm quite certain she know a little bit of how to run a business than you do. Obviously things we're right, rumours that Mr Cortese spent the Club's money as if it were his own may have something to with it, Katharina Liebherr obviously wanted a little more information on where her money was going, she has supported Mr Cortese in the transfer markets to the tune of nearly £50 million since her father sadly passed away, investing what is essentially her money into the Club.

Give her a break, you obviously know very little, in a power struggle the person who owns the company ultimately wins, Mr Cortese couldn't get his own way and he lost, GAME OVER
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]I'm quite certain she know a little bit of how to run a business than you do. Obviously things we're right, rumours that Mr Cortese spent the Club's money as if it were his own may have something to with it, Katharina Liebherr obviously wanted a little more information on where her money was going, she has supported Mr Cortese in the transfer markets to the tune of nearly £50 million since her father sadly passed away, investing what is essentially her money into the Club. Give her a break, you obviously know very little, in a power struggle the person who owns the company ultimately wins, Mr Cortese couldn't get his own way and he lost, GAME OVER Outside of the Box

4:01pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Just a comment, but you open by attacking the Echo for writing stories based on speculation and things that might or might not be true and then...

the rest of your post is pure speculation without any knowledge of the facts.

However, the factual bits I totally agree with - he did a brilliant job, he's going to be very hard to replace and we thank him and will forever remember him for what he's done for this football club.

I hope he returns, but for a man who never tends to look to the past I have my doubts that will happen. And very, very few owners would allow a chairman to have complete control of their club.
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]Just a comment, but you open by attacking the Echo for writing stories based on speculation and things that might or might not be true and then... the rest of your post is pure speculation without any knowledge of the facts. However, the factual bits I totally agree with - he did a brilliant job, he's going to be very hard to replace and we thank him and will forever remember him for what he's done for this football club. I hope he returns, but for a man who never tends to look to the past I have my doubts that will happen. And very, very few owners would allow a chairman to have complete control of their club. SaintJD

4:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

SaintJD says...

Barcelona Saint wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table."
What???
We're no way near it!!
Yeah, that did make me laugh. We're exactly as 'just outside the relegation battle' as we are 'just outside' the race for the title. Hilarious.
[quote][p][bold]Barcelona Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table." What??? We're no way near it!![/p][/quote]Yeah, that did make me laugh. We're exactly as 'just outside the relegation battle' as we are 'just outside' the race for the title. Hilarious. SaintJD

4:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

philiprhampton says...

K A T H A R E N A the population of this great footballing city love you.
K A T H A R E N A the population of this great footballing city love you. philiprhampton

4:17pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Blackknight says...

GOOD NEWS, and a good positive start from Katharina .
GOOD NEWS, and a good positive start from Katharina . Blackknight

4:21pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

4:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

slugger says...

So Nicola himself was "Just a head of department" too ........ Shame , I liked him a lot , if the next one does half as well i'll be happy .
So Nicola himself was "Just a head of department" too ........ Shame , I liked him a lot , if the next one does half as well i'll be happy . slugger

4:40pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom? Confucious

4:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many. ghk230473

4:42pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Alicesdad says...

St Retford wrote:
I love that woman.

(Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?)
SHE OWNS A FOOTBALL CLUB AND IS A BILLIONNAIRE !!

Get in the queue Squire ...
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I love that woman. (Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?)[/p][/quote]SHE OWNS A FOOTBALL CLUB AND IS A BILLIONNAIRE !! Get in the queue Squire ... Alicesdad

4:43pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

This mild wet winter weather is very confusing isn't it. All those skunties came out of hibernation for about three hours . Now they seem to have gone back into it again.
This mild wet winter weather is very confusing isn't it. All those skunties came out of hibernation for about three hours . Now they seem to have gone back into it again. Clever Dick

4:48pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Sadoldgitte says...

Says it all.
Says it all. Sadoldgitte

5:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?
She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?[/p][/quote]She owns it, she doesn't need an invite. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

5:22pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saint. says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
I'm quite certain she know a little bit of how to run a business than you do. Obviously things we're right, rumours that Mr Cortese spent the Club's money as if it were his own may have something to with it, Katharina Liebherr obviously wanted a little more information on where her money was going, she has supported Mr Cortese in the transfer markets to the tune of nearly £50 million since her father sadly passed away, investing what is essentially her money into the Club.

Give her a break, you obviously know very little, in a power struggle the person who owns the company ultimately wins, Mr Cortese couldn't get his own way and he lost, GAME OVER
The only fact as you like to talk about is she knows more about running the business more than I and she does. I do not claim to!! But the then you yourself lead with a rumour...come on!

My post is about Katharine handling and understanding of Southampton FC/ Fans and NC. You forget that she is most probably surrounded by advisor and either she or her advisors have let the best Chairman go! Simple as, and please remember he was not crap at his job, in fact he was many levels above anyone else!

Katharine may turn out to be brilliant and if she is, I will be the first in line to support her!! But to date she has been slow and reacting rather than leading! Also running a business hands on is quite different from a distant! Ask yourself why NC did not want her on the board?

So I ask you this, were you happy with NC? Were you happy that he want to take us to the top? If so did you believe him? Did NC not deliver on every promise? Did NC not lead and give this club pride to support a forward innovative club?

Most of all are you happy now that we might have the best manager until the summer only now? A manager who really does give 100% and more, and is delivering attacking and attractive football? A manager who if stays will take Southampton to the top? A manager who says NC is a stand up guy and backs him all the way, a manager who believed in NC vision and wants to give that vision to Saints fans and Southampton!!
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]I'm quite certain she know a little bit of how to run a business than you do. Obviously things we're right, rumours that Mr Cortese spent the Club's money as if it were his own may have something to with it, Katharina Liebherr obviously wanted a little more information on where her money was going, she has supported Mr Cortese in the transfer markets to the tune of nearly £50 million since her father sadly passed away, investing what is essentially her money into the Club. Give her a break, you obviously know very little, in a power struggle the person who owns the company ultimately wins, Mr Cortese couldn't get his own way and he lost, GAME OVER[/p][/quote]The only fact as you like to talk about is she knows more about running the business more than I and she does. I do not claim to!! But the then you yourself lead with a rumour...come on! My post is about Katharine handling and understanding of Southampton FC/ Fans and NC. You forget that she is most probably surrounded by advisor and either she or her advisors have let the best Chairman go! Simple as, and please remember he was not crap at his job, in fact he was many levels above anyone else! Katharine may turn out to be brilliant and if she is, I will be the first in line to support her!! But to date she has been slow and reacting rather than leading! Also running a business hands on is quite different from a distant! Ask yourself why NC did not want her on the board? So I ask you this, were you happy with NC? Were you happy that he want to take us to the top? If so did you believe him? Did NC not deliver on every promise? Did NC not lead and give this club pride to support a forward innovative club? Most of all are you happy now that we might have the best manager until the summer only now? A manager who really does give 100% and more, and is delivering attacking and attractive football? A manager who if stays will take Southampton to the top? A manager who says NC is a stand up guy and backs him all the way, a manager who believed in NC vision and wants to give that vision to Saints fans and Southampton!! Saint.

5:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all.

However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded.

We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment.

If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled.

Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.[/p][/quote]Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all. However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded. We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment. If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled. Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

5:30pm Fri 17 Jan 14

seasideoldgit says...

Suppose there is no chance of buying any either. A good CB would not go a miss. Can but hope
Suppose there is no chance of buying any either. A good CB would not go a miss. Can but hope seasideoldgit

5:33pm Fri 17 Jan 14

andysaint says...

'no plans to sell any players'
Obviously if someone comes in with 30 mill for Luke do we think we should accept? I mean Lukes fantastic and stuff but 30 mill for an 18 yr old? Seriously id take it.
And 7 mill for 32 yr old RL - i mean stupid money. As long as we re -invest the income whats the problem?
we could be a lot worse off than we are now - and we have the Liebheer family to thank for that - especially Marcus but lets not forget that KL has been owner since his death and we have continued our rise.
Compare her statement to West Spams assistant this week - 'every player at this club has his price'
'no plans to sell any players' Obviously if someone comes in with 30 mill for Luke do we think we should accept? I mean Lukes fantastic and stuff but 30 mill for an 18 yr old? Seriously id take it. And 7 mill for 32 yr old RL - i mean stupid money. As long as we re -invest the income whats the problem? we could be a lot worse off than we are now - and we have the Liebheer family to thank for that - especially Marcus but lets not forget that KL has been owner since his death and we have continued our rise. Compare her statement to West Spams assistant this week - 'every player at this club has his price' andysaint

5:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

RalphM says...

SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
I think you find they have invested a tad more than £30M into the saints. The new training ground is costing 30M on its own!
[quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]I think you find they have invested a tad more than £30M into the saints. The new training ground is costing 30M on its own! RalphM

5:56pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saint. says...

SaintJD wrote:
Saint. wrote:
Why have you removed everybody comments here DE?

Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't!

Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons!

What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult.

To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club.

Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels!
Just a comment, but you open by attacking the Echo for writing stories based on speculation and things that might or might not be true and then...

the rest of your post is pure speculation without any knowledge of the facts.

However, the factual bits I totally agree with - he did a brilliant job, he's going to be very hard to replace and we thank him and will forever remember him for what he's done for this football club.

I hope he returns, but for a man who never tends to look to the past I have my doubts that will happen. And very, very few owners would allow a chairman to have complete control of their club.
Yes the fact is the DE are having a field day after being out in the wilderness for so long! So much of their headlines to their stories changed every five minutes today!! Post disappeared and reappeared all over the place today. Yet as a local rag they fail to get the facts from Katharine, and her vision for the club we all need to know. Instead they take cheap shots at NC and speculation .

I have not quoted facts in my original post as you claim. Simply formed a opinion on lack of reaction and handling of Katharine in handling NC departure. If you can tell me that NC was not excelling in his job and that the club on all levels was not behind the man from manager, players, and fans, a situation other clubs do not have, and therefore in it self should of flag up a better handling strategy for a popular man in charge of Southampton.

Again to date she is reacting to things not leading. Not the best sign. Again I will be first in the que to support her if she delivers!!

But to date we have lost the best forward archiving chairman out there. A man who if given the backing would of taken Southampton to the top!. We may lose the best attacking and best watching football you will see Saints play under MP come summer! So smile now and we will all worry as May approach! We have a unsettled team players upset at NC departure who really believed in NC vision! Check twitter. These are the only real facts, and until Katharine decides in her wisdom to tell us her bold plans, it now a massive worry if not imminent, in the not too distant future and it most certainly not business as usual at the moment for the fans! I hope it is being addressed in the board, but they knew this was coming and yet the board and Katharine are reacting to situations!
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: Why have you removed everybody comments here DE? Go on get an exclusive DE and find out Katharine real intentions for the club, for the fans! I bet you can't! Stop just enjoying your field day here, and rehashing stories and speculating on many scenarios which might or might not be true! Stop treating Saints as simpletons! What is clear that Katharine has not handle this very well at all. If she had her eye on the ball rather than listening to her advisors she would of known that NC would of rocked this club by letting him go! She would of been better prepared to know Saints fans are the most passionate and caring fans, and that a simple announcement that it is business as usual is simply a plastic response, as how it is as usual when the best Chairman any club would want and we hand she let go!! She would of known it was foolish to let the best chairman in this country go. If it is true as suggested, why has she not moved quicker to replace NC if he was serving his notice from October? She would of known the timing could of been better and not in the middle of a season when there is so much promise ahead, and in the middle of a transfer window for crying out loud! She would of known any possible signings would be more difficult. To date Katharine has handle things not as well as she could of and if there is in any question in these statements, then please tell me what chairman has archived so much in such a short time, what chairman has the vision he has, what chairman has the total support of the players, what chairman has complete affection with the manager, which chairman has delivered and protected the club at the same time, which chairman wanted to take this club of ours to the very top! End of the day that Chairman is Nicola Cortese and a Chairman Katharine let go for nothing more than a power struggle! A man her father installed and trusted and before anyone says that business for you, the man was not doing the job, but excelling at it for Southampton FC! If Katharine was aware of any of this she would of been better prepared with a new CEO and would had the time to speck to the fans and tell them her vision for the club, and why I would say she has been wrongly advised and would be looking to sell the club. Thank you Markus and Nicola , I hope your good work and generously keeps to this high standard you have set and taken this great club of Southampton FC as an envy for others on many levels![/p][/quote]Just a comment, but you open by attacking the Echo for writing stories based on speculation and things that might or might not be true and then... the rest of your post is pure speculation without any knowledge of the facts. However, the factual bits I totally agree with - he did a brilliant job, he's going to be very hard to replace and we thank him and will forever remember him for what he's done for this football club. I hope he returns, but for a man who never tends to look to the past I have my doubts that will happen. And very, very few owners would allow a chairman to have complete control of their club.[/p][/quote]Yes the fact is the DE are having a field day after being out in the wilderness for so long! So much of their headlines to their stories changed every five minutes today!! Post disappeared and reappeared all over the place today. Yet as a local rag they fail to get the facts from Katharine, and her vision for the club we all need to know. Instead they take cheap shots at NC and speculation . I have not quoted facts in my original post as you claim. Simply formed a opinion on lack of reaction and handling of Katharine in handling NC departure. If you can tell me that NC was not excelling in his job and that the club on all levels was not behind the man from manager, players, and fans, a situation other clubs do not have, and therefore in it self should of flag up a better handling strategy for a popular man in charge of Southampton. Again to date she is reacting to things not leading. Not the best sign. Again I will be first in the que to support her if she delivers!! But to date we have lost the best forward archiving chairman out there. A man who if given the backing would of taken Southampton to the top!. We may lose the best attacking and best watching football you will see Saints play under MP come summer! So smile now and we will all worry as May approach! We have a unsettled team players upset at NC departure who really believed in NC vision! Check twitter. These are the only real facts, and until Katharine decides in her wisdom to tell us her bold plans, it now a massive worry if not imminent, in the not too distant future and it most certainly not business as usual at the moment for the fans! I hope it is being addressed in the board, but they knew this was coming and yet the board and Katharine are reacting to situations! Saint.

6:04pm Fri 17 Jan 14

ctsaint says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
Trust me GHK I love Le Tiss as much as you, I moved to Soton aged 6 in 1976 and watched the victory parade for the FA Cup go through Bitterne , grew up paying £1:50 to watch as and under16 and saw all of Les Tiss's career , he kept us alive for a decade or more.
NC simply wanted to change a long time engrained value system to one that was more business minded and modern, seemingly insignificant but for someone who wants everything just so,merry important. The proof of the pudding they say is in the eating. It's churlish of you to take sides without the facts. They have both , in their own way been legends and in my heart and mind will remain so.
I live in Africa and 5 years ago when my son was 2 and the guys at the local club in Camps Bay asked who he would support when he grows up, i responded, by the time he is old enough to care, The Saints, because they'll be back where they belong, NC with the Liebhhers money fulfilled that dream where the likelihood of failure ŵas high.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.[/p][/quote]Trust me GHK I love Le Tiss as much as you, I moved to Soton aged 6 in 1976 and watched the victory parade for the FA Cup go through Bitterne , grew up paying £1:50 to watch as and under16 and saw all of Les Tiss's career , he kept us alive for a decade or more. NC simply wanted to change a long time engrained value system to one that was more business minded and modern, seemingly insignificant but for someone who wants everything just so,merry important. The proof of the pudding they say is in the eating. It's churlish of you to take sides without the facts. They have both , in their own way been legends and in my heart and mind will remain so. I live in Africa and 5 years ago when my son was 2 and the guys at the local club in Camps Bay asked who he would support when he grows up, i responded, by the time he is old enough to care, The Saints, because they'll be back where they belong, NC with the Liebhhers money fulfilled that dream where the likelihood of failure ŵas high. ctsaint

6:13pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?
She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.
Precisely - and that's just what's she's done.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?[/p][/quote]She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.[/p][/quote]Precisely - and that's just what's she's done. Confucious

6:17pm Fri 17 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?
She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.
It's only polite too wait for an invatation even if you do own it. If your landlord you still have to respect your tennants??
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?[/p][/quote]She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.[/p][/quote]It's only polite too wait for an invatation even if you do own it. If your landlord you still have to respect your tennants?? hedge end bob

6:19pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

Oh well - some dispute on here as to who might be the villain of the piece.

But moving on - no such problem tomorrow. We all know who the enemy is and we all know whose side we're all on.
Oh well - some dispute on here as to who might be the villain of the piece. But moving on - no such problem tomorrow. We all know who the enemy is and we all know whose side we're all on. Confucious

6:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
DE The lady has a first name please try and use it . hedge end bob

6:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

soton1980 says...

Cortese was a fantastic chairman, but Katharina deserves a chance and our full support. Let's see what happens until the end of the transfer window. How the club handle any potential Luke Shaw bids will be a good indication of Katharina's intentions and ambitions for the club.
Cortese was a fantastic chairman, but Katharina deserves a chance and our full support. Let's see what happens until the end of the transfer window. How the club handle any potential Luke Shaw bids will be a good indication of Katharina's intentions and ambitions for the club. soton1980

6:52pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

There was never much chance of her green lighting the sale of players in this transfer window. It would have sent the message that she wants out now and our league position would have nose dived. If she's looking to sell us she's not likely to start selling our prized assets, this would be detrimental to what somebody would be willing to pay. Keep Poch and the class players and the club is a far more attractive commodity than without. I hope I'm wrong and she has an interest in seeing the club in the top echelon of the Premiership, but she doesn't strike me as caring much for NC's vision. You never know, if she does sell we might end up with even wealthier owners wanting to see the club become a major player!
There was never much chance of her green lighting the sale of players in this transfer window. It would have sent the message that she wants out now and our league position would have nose dived. If she's looking to sell us she's not likely to start selling our prized assets, this would be detrimental to what somebody would be willing to pay. Keep Poch and the class players and the club is a far more attractive commodity than without. I hope I'm wrong and she has an interest in seeing the club in the top echelon of the Premiership, but she doesn't strike me as caring much for NC's vision. You never know, if she does sell we might end up with even wealthier owners wanting to see the club become a major player! Marchwood Malcom

6:56pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all.

However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded.

We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment.

If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled.

Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.
Where you call Cortese a complete git an list people to prove it there seems to be an equally long list of people (not in the Le Tiss clique or unnamed employees who think he was a stand up all round good bloke:

The current manager
The chairlady
ALL the current players
Ex-players (Jason Dodd, Raihi Jaidi, Terrie Paine)
The staff and groundsmen (There are always certain members of staff who slag off the boss) It has been reported he knew their names, took the time to enquire after their families and sent staff Xma cards

I agree with the rest of your post but your assesment of Cortese the man seems a bit abitrary.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.[/p][/quote]Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all. However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded. We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment. If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled. Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.[/p][/quote]Where you call Cortese a complete git an list people to prove it there seems to be an equally long list of people (not in the Le Tiss clique or unnamed employees who think he was a stand up all round good bloke: The current manager The chairlady ALL the current players Ex-players (Jason Dodd, Raihi Jaidi, Terrie Paine) The staff and groundsmen (There are always certain members of staff who slag off the boss) It has been reported he knew their names, took the time to enquire after their families and sent staff Xma cards I agree with the rest of your post but your assesment of Cortese the man seems a bit abitrary. Thornhill Saint

7:03pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Marchwood Malcom says...

I wonder what Gordon Watson has to say about all this.
I wonder what Gordon Watson has to say about all this. Marchwood Malcom

7:08pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Clever Dick says...

soton1980 wrote:
Cortese was a fantastic chairman, but Katharina deserves a chance and our full support. Let's see what happens until the end of the transfer window. How the club handle any potential Luke Shaw bids will be a good indication of Katharina's intentions and ambitions for the club.
Don't worry that won't be a problem. Katharina has employed some public relations people to deal with this and the good new is it's me. I've been practicing my telephone manner and it's going like this so far.
"Oh hello Mr Moyes. Luke Shaw and Adam Lalanna? They're not for sale f--k off."
"Oh hello Mr Abramovich. £30 million for Luke Shaw? He's not for sale. F--k off."
"Manchester City? Oh sorry didn't know there were two clubs in Manchester. You're interested in some of our players? They're not for sale. F--k off.
See it's easy.
[quote][p][bold]soton1980[/bold] wrote: Cortese was a fantastic chairman, but Katharina deserves a chance and our full support. Let's see what happens until the end of the transfer window. How the club handle any potential Luke Shaw bids will be a good indication of Katharina's intentions and ambitions for the club.[/p][/quote]Don't worry that won't be a problem. Katharina has employed some public relations people to deal with this and the good new is it's me. I've been practicing my telephone manner and it's going like this so far. "Oh hello Mr Moyes. Luke Shaw and Adam Lalanna? They're not for sale f--k off." "Oh hello Mr Abramovich. £30 million for Luke Shaw? He's not for sale. F--k off." "Manchester City? Oh sorry didn't know there were two clubs in Manchester. You're interested in some of our players? They're not for sale. F--k off. See it's easy. Clever Dick

7:22pm Fri 17 Jan 14

jezza says...

You have to remember that even Marcus had to rein Nicola in during his brief time in charge, and without the depth of friendship that those two shared, maybe managing NC can be more than a bit aggravating at times.

The bigger issue for me is how much of this situation has been fuelled by the press who suddenly went from being very anti- to very pro Cortese. Like everyone else, I am only speculating, but I wonder how many others were really surprised by the the way the Mail in particular, and others in general, switched from being very anti-Saints and almost vitriolic about the 'dictatorial' regime, to very pro-Saints and extremely supportive of NC's work.

My own conspiracy theory, for what it's worth, is that the initial hatred still simmers at the offices of the Mail and it's "supporter" papers. Having failed to turn the world against NC for being a dictator (mainly because his success supported his style to the extent that everyone tolerated it), they then used his own ego against him and praised him up to such an extent that he believed their hype was genuinely about his undeniable achievements. They then widely proclaimed that he had become indispensable and that he alone was to thank for getting the Saints to where we are. He trusted them enough to give them quotes that in fairness, were beginning to make him sound like he thought the club was his.

This was obviously always going to irk the person whose money had actually gone into making the club what it is, and would no doubt be extremely unsettling to her. No business owner would ever want a senior employee to be allowed a position whereby the employee is thought of as more indispensable than the owner themselves, so she rightly stepped in to retrieve the situation and regain her authority. As the press expected, it would appear that NC was not prepared to relinquish any of the power he had enjoyed up until that point and so resigned rather than accept any control over his actions.

My concern now is that the media are not prepared to leave it there. As soon as NC's resignation became public knowledge, MP's earlier comments about leaving if NC went were published everywhere. Stories of players leaving if MP went followed very quickly. At the same time, Ms Liebherr was criticised in some papers, When MP said he was staying, the reports were that Ms Liebherr is keen to sell the club. All of these stories appear to have no foundation at all, but all now seem aimed at unsettling the players, the manager and the owner.

Today, MP's reticence to commit long-term (and as he doesn't yet know who his new boss is going to be, I don't blame him), is being used again to unsettle players. Then Ms Liebherr's statement that no players will be sold in the January window is being interpreted as meaning they will be sold in the summer. (What do the press want - a statement saying Southampton FC do not intend to sell a player ever again?) For me, she has said all she needs to say at the moment to bring some stability back to the situation,

I think we can be sure that the club's owners and advisers are far superior in their business acumen than the gutter press. NC may have been manipulated out, but I am certain our great club will now rise above everything that gets thrown at it in the next few weeks.

Hopefully, another club will have a newsworthy issue soon and then maybe we can drop out of the spotlight for a while and go back to focussing on doing what we do best - playing great football and fulfilling Marcus' dream.

STID COYR
You have to remember that even Marcus had to rein Nicola in during his brief time in charge, and without the depth of friendship that those two shared, maybe managing NC can be more than a bit aggravating at times. The bigger issue for me is how much of this situation has been fuelled by the press who suddenly went from being very anti- to very pro Cortese. Like everyone else, I am only speculating, but I wonder how many others were really surprised by the the way the Mail in particular, and others in general, switched from being very anti-Saints and almost vitriolic about the 'dictatorial' regime, to very pro-Saints and extremely supportive of NC's work. My own conspiracy theory, for what it's worth, is that the initial hatred still simmers at the offices of the Mail and it's "supporter" papers. Having failed to turn the world against NC for being a dictator (mainly because his success supported his style to the extent that everyone tolerated it), they then used his own ego against him and praised him up to such an extent that he believed their hype was genuinely about his undeniable achievements. They then widely proclaimed that he had become indispensable and that he alone was to thank for getting the Saints to where we are. He trusted them enough to give them quotes that in fairness, were beginning to make him sound like he thought the club was his. This was obviously always going to irk the person whose money had actually gone into making the club what it is, and would no doubt be extremely unsettling to her. No business owner would ever want a senior employee to be allowed a position whereby the employee is thought of as more indispensable than the owner themselves, so she rightly stepped in to retrieve the situation and regain her authority. As the press expected, it would appear that NC was not prepared to relinquish any of the power he had enjoyed up until that point and so resigned rather than accept any control over his actions. My concern now is that the media are not prepared to leave it there. As soon as NC's resignation became public knowledge, MP's earlier comments about leaving if NC went were published everywhere. Stories of players leaving if MP went followed very quickly. At the same time, Ms Liebherr was criticised in some papers, When MP said he was staying, the reports were that Ms Liebherr is keen to sell the club. All of these stories appear to have no foundation at all, but all now seem aimed at unsettling the players, the manager and the owner. Today, MP's reticence to commit long-term (and as he doesn't yet know who his new boss is going to be, I don't blame him), is being used again to unsettle players. Then Ms Liebherr's statement that no players will be sold in the January window is being interpreted as meaning they will be sold in the summer. (What do the press want - a statement saying Southampton FC do not intend to sell a player ever again?) For me, she has said all she needs to say at the moment to bring some stability back to the situation, I think we can be sure that the club's owners and advisers are far superior in their business acumen than the gutter press. NC may have been manipulated out, but I am certain our great club will now rise above everything that gets thrown at it in the next few weeks. Hopefully, another club will have a newsworthy issue soon and then maybe we can drop out of the spotlight for a while and go back to focussing on doing what we do best - playing great football and fulfilling Marcus' dream. STID COYR jezza

7:36pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

hedge end bob wrote:
DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this! Santa Retfordia

7:42pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Thornhill Saint says...

Cr*p. Will Britt has left Saints for Bognor.
What is going on!

There will be no fire sale sold but KL never said there would be no mass exodus on loan!

Fingers crossed will keep Johhno Forte and Barnard!
Cr*p. Will Britt has left Saints for Bognor. What is going on! There will be no fire sale sold but KL never said there would be no mass exodus on loan! Fingers crossed will keep Johhno Forte and Barnard! Thornhill Saint

7:59pm Fri 17 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA. hedge end bob

8:11pm Fri 17 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?
She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.
I think it says a lot that she would come down to Southampton for what must be in her eyes a very small piece of the pie. Image is everything. I believe she has handled herself well. Her only request when coming down to Southampton was to avoid the pollution to the east of us.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I wonder if Nicola ever invited her to his Kingdom?[/p][/quote]She owns it, she doesn't need an invite.[/p][/quote]I think it says a lot that she would come down to Southampton for what must be in her eyes a very small piece of the pie. Image is everything. I believe she has handled herself well. Her only request when coming down to Southampton was to avoid the pollution to the east of us. DisplacedFan

8:11pm Fri 17 Jan 14

hedge end bob says...

Sorry KATHARINA
Sorry KATHARINA hedge end bob

8:18pm Fri 17 Jan 14

oldsaintsfan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all.

However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded.

We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment.

If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled.

Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.
I think you are probably correct in your assessment but in my view the “writing was always on the wall” that something like this would happen - just a question of timing. Unfortunately ML' s untimely death understandably resulted in an ownership vacuum. NC always appeared (to me) to behave like an owner (and that can often be a positive not least reflected in the clubs recent progress). However without the significant "skin in the game" (he is after all an employee) and this will always lead to uncertainty with regards to NC's motives given his dominant position at the club. The suspicion that NC may not have been without conflicts of interest (when dealing with a significant asset was clearly not lost on KL given that one of her understandable requests of NC was a seat on the board for one of her representatives. One might suspect NC would not take well to potentially being second guessed. Notwithstanding this I too have not enjoyed the football so much since 70’s and early 80’s and for his part in this I say “thank you” Mr Cortese. As Saints supporters going forward we need to be optimistic and hope or the best after all thngs could be alot worse. Hopefully the team will be up for it tom.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.[/p][/quote]Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all. However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded. We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment. If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled. Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.[/p][/quote]I think you are probably correct in your assessment but in my view the “writing was always on the wall” that something like this would happen - just a question of timing. Unfortunately ML' s untimely death understandably resulted in an ownership vacuum. NC always appeared (to me) to behave like an owner (and that can often be a positive not least reflected in the clubs recent progress). However without the significant "skin in the game" (he is after all an employee) and this will always lead to uncertainty with regards to NC's motives given his dominant position at the club. The suspicion that NC may not have been without conflicts of interest (when dealing with a significant asset was clearly not lost on KL given that one of her understandable requests of NC was a seat on the board for one of her representatives. One might suspect NC would not take well to potentially being second guessed. Notwithstanding this I too have not enjoyed the football so much since 70’s and early 80’s and for his part in this I say “thank you” Mr Cortese. As Saints supporters going forward we need to be optimistic and hope or the best after all thngs could be alot worse. Hopefully the team will be up for it tom. oldsaintsfan

8:20pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saints n Winners says...

no plans to sell during the "January" transfer window

How about the summer one though
no plans to sell during the "January" transfer window How about the summer one though Saints n Winners

8:38pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
It's just how the world is. There's no disrespect intended. We don't insist on the Echo calling Nicola "Mr Cortese" do we?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA.[/p][/quote]It's just how the world is. There's no disrespect intended. We don't insist on the Echo calling Nicola "Mr Cortese" do we? Santa Retfordia

8:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Alicesdad wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I love that woman.

(Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?)
SHE OWNS A FOOTBALL CLUB AND IS A BILLIONNAIRE !!

Get in the queue Squire ...
I think you'll find I started the queue on one of the threads yesterday. HANDS OFF!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: I love that woman. (Serously, Katharina, call me, yeah?)[/p][/quote]SHE OWNS A FOOTBALL CLUB AND IS A BILLIONNAIRE !! Get in the queue Squire ...[/p][/quote]I think you'll find I started the queue on one of the threads yesterday. HANDS OFF! Santa Retfordia

8:41pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Confucious says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson."
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA.[/p][/quote]Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson." Confucious

9:12pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Saints n Winners says...

Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson."
Men and women will never be equal all the time John Inverdale can comment on a tennis player and say "she's not really a looker" - and there to be a national debate lasting for days afterwards.

If the same was said about a male tennis player - would he actually care? and even if he did care and say something - everyone would call him a nonse.

It's nice to be a bloke and not give a **** - and I do like the extra money that we make, and the fact that I can urinate in an upright position.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA.[/p][/quote]Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson."[/p][/quote]Men and women will never be equal all the time John Inverdale can comment on a tennis player and say "she's not really a looker" - and there to be a national debate lasting for days afterwards. If the same was said about a male tennis player - would he actually care? and even if he did care and say something - everyone would call him a nonse. It's nice to be a bloke and not give a **** - and I do like the extra money that we make, and the fact that I can urinate in an upright position. Saints n Winners

9:21pm Fri 17 Jan 14

F Fan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with.

Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist.

Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress.

Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear.

I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing.

Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?).

Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.
I hope you are right.

Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father.

I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.
I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out.
Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with.
Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players.
Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.
Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all.

However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded.

We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment.

If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled.

Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.
Agree that the likelihood is sale and thereby uncertainty that could eventually lead to MP going and possibly players too. But good on her for the statement today on no sales in the window - that was extremely important and, just as importantly, it was said quickly. All of what happened was certainly not positive but it is looking much better than 48 hours ago.


Don't agree at all that NC was a "git". Had a two hour dinner with him with around 15 other fans just after Pardew was sacked and he was hugely impressive. Calculated and clear to the point of bluntess but not at all the ogre I had expected. He was appalled at the cosy, neo-corrupt situation he encountered with ex-players, small scale local business people and media people who fed off the club – somewhere in the region of 1000+ free tickets every game for every hanger on and their dog. He blasted all that away and made the inevitable enemies in the process. Common in all clubs for ever and a day but to him it was just an affront. He was loathed by that, complacent, deadwood , small fish in small pond people ever since. Cortese professionalised the club and it needed it. Good managers don’t make good friends.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: KL has owned this club for longer than her father and has presided over its wonderful return to its proper positionin the football hierarchy. Under her ownership she has invested in the club and seen new players purchased, young players emerge and our club become a force to be reckoned with. Nicola Cortese was the overall Executive who steered that path, but with her money. He did a cracking job, no doubt. But some one else can step in and still do as well. They are hard to find, but they exist. Now we shall see what happens next. Cortese may have been unique in many ways, but that isn't to say there aren't many people of high calibre who can bring their own approach to this club and continue its sparkling progress. Her lack of visibility reflects the lifstyle of a woman running (and owning) mutli bilion pound businesses. However her recent statements, however brief, are positive and clear. I have no idea what will happen next, nobody outside their inner sanctum does, but I don't feel it will be a bad period. Rather it will just be a chapter ending and a new one starting, with the overall success story continuing. Cheer up people - I would far rather this young woman owned this club than a bunch of wheeling dealing crooks (who on earth could I be thinking of?). Have faith everyone, support the owner, the manager, the team... Southampton Football Club.[/p][/quote]I hope you are right. Another take could be that Markus and Nicola set out on a journey and one had to continue without the other. That the entire vision for breaking into the cosy status quo of top six clubs and the drive to achieve that came from one man. It could be argued that his determination to succeed no matter whom he upset gave Southampton FC it's first real chance in decades of actually achieving something massive. It could be argued that she simply inherited the club with no interest in it whatsoever purely as a result of the untimely death of her father. I don't know which is the answer. I do think that MoPo saying he had only met her once before yesterdays crisis meeting is not a great sign as he has been here 12 months. I am amazed that, even if she has no interest in football, she couldn't be bothered to come and have a look at her asset from time to time and meet the management team if for no other reason than to motivate them.[/p][/quote]I think she did make appearance and showed an interest, that's how and maybe why they fell out. Who knows if Markus wouldn't have totally agreed the way he ran things? Let's face facts cortèse upsets most he comes into contact with. Another fact that puzzles me is if cortèse knew and was such a football person why couldn't he get on with 1 of our all time greatest players and most loyal? Let's face it if you like football how can you not marvel and be impressed with letiss's performances? And I'm sorry but le god does deserve the honour of our club, along with Terrence and Michael. If I owned the club I would name stands after these players. Agreed you can't argue with what cortèses record however to get a premier league team back from div 2 to prem with the financial back up ain't really hard, I'm just amazed that he had to upset and alienate so many.[/p][/quote]Look let's get something straight - the bloke was a total git. Everyone I know who has had dealings with him hasn't got a good word to say about him - staff, ex managers, IT consultants, shop fitters, and the list goes on. Each and every one of them slags him off. Indecisive (believe it or not), changed his mind every 5 minutes, denied previous agreements - not a good look at all. However, in my 51 years I have never bought into a vision of sfc as much as I did this man's. He was hell bent on shaking the establishment and forcing our club to the top table. Some may say he would have failed, well we will never know now but he'd done incredibly well thus far and maybe, just maybe he would have succeeded. We now await the next CEO and if its that ex Scouse you can be sure his track record of selling clubs will be the reason behind his appointment. If we do not show total commitment to the vision I bet MoPo facks off in the summer closely followed by the amazing young talent we have assembled. Thumb me down, say I'm being negative but truth is I don't see any positives in this at all.[/p][/quote]Agree that the likelihood is sale and thereby uncertainty that could eventually lead to MP going and possibly players too. But good on her for the statement today on no sales in the window - that was extremely important and, just as importantly, it was said quickly. All of what happened was certainly not positive but it is looking much better than 48 hours ago. Don't agree at all that NC was a "git". Had a two hour dinner with him with around 15 other fans just after Pardew was sacked and he was hugely impressive. Calculated and clear to the point of bluntess but not at all the ogre I had expected. He was appalled at the cosy, neo-corrupt situation he encountered with ex-players, small scale local business people and media people who fed off the club – somewhere in the region of 1000+ free tickets every game for every hanger on and their dog. He blasted all that away and made the inevitable enemies in the process. Common in all clubs for ever and a day but to him it was just an affront. He was loathed by that, complacent, deadwood , small fish in small pond people ever since. Cortese professionalised the club and it needed it. Good managers don’t make good friends. F Fan

9:23pm Fri 17 Jan 14

F Fan says...

Saints n Winners wrote:
Confucious wrote:
hedge end bob wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson."
Men and women will never be equal all the time John Inverdale can comment on a tennis player and say "she's not really a looker" - and there to be a national debate lasting for days afterwards.

If the same was said about a male tennis player - would he actually care? and even if he did care and say something - everyone would call him a nonse.

It's nice to be a bloke and not give a **** - and I do like the extra money that we make, and the fact that I can urinate in an upright position.
Grow up.
[quote][p][bold]Saints n Winners[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA.[/p][/quote]Whenever I ring the club it's always "Hello Mrs Wilson."[/p][/quote]Men and women will never be equal all the time John Inverdale can comment on a tennis player and say "she's not really a looker" - and there to be a national debate lasting for days afterwards. If the same was said about a male tennis player - would he actually care? and even if he did care and say something - everyone would call him a nonse. It's nice to be a bloke and not give a **** - and I do like the extra money that we make, and the fact that I can urinate in an upright position.[/p][/quote]Grow up. F Fan

9:56pm Fri 17 Jan 14

Santa Retfordia says...

jezza wrote:
You have to remember that even Marcus had to rein Nicola in during his brief time in charge, and without the depth of friendship that those two shared, maybe managing NC can be more than a bit aggravating at times. The bigger issue for me is how much of this situation has been fuelled by the press who suddenly went from being very anti- to very pro Cortese. Like everyone else, I am only speculating, but I wonder how many others were really surprised by the the way the Mail in particular, and others in general, switched from being very anti-Saints and almost vitriolic about the 'dictatorial' regime, to very pro-Saints and extremely supportive of NC's work. My own conspiracy theory, for what it's worth, is that the initial hatred still simmers at the offices of the Mail and it's "supporter" papers. Having failed to turn the world against NC for being a dictator (mainly because his success supported his style to the extent that everyone tolerated it), they then used his own ego against him and praised him up to such an extent that he believed their hype was genuinely about his undeniable achievements. They then widely proclaimed that he had become indispensable and that he alone was to thank for getting the Saints to where we are. He trusted them enough to give them quotes that in fairness, were beginning to make him sound like he thought the club was his. This was obviously always going to irk the person whose money had actually gone into making the club what it is, and would no doubt be extremely unsettling to her. No business owner would ever want a senior employee to be allowed a position whereby the employee is thought of as more indispensable than the owner themselves, so she rightly stepped in to retrieve the situation and regain her authority. As the press expected, it would appear that NC was not prepared to relinquish any of the power he had enjoyed up until that point and so resigned rather than accept any control over his actions. My concern now is that the media are not prepared to leave it there. As soon as NC's resignation became public knowledge, MP's earlier comments about leaving if NC went were published everywhere. Stories of players leaving if MP went followed very quickly. At the same time, Ms Liebherr was criticised in some papers, When MP said he was staying, the reports were that Ms Liebherr is keen to sell the club. All of these stories appear to have no foundation at all, but all now seem aimed at unsettling the players, the manager and the owner. Today, MP's reticence to commit long-term (and as he doesn't yet know who his new boss is going to be, I don't blame him), is being used again to unsettle players. Then Ms Liebherr's statement that no players will be sold in the January window is being interpreted as meaning they will be sold in the summer. (What do the press want - a statement saying Southampton FC do not intend to sell a player ever again?) For me, she has said all she needs to say at the moment to bring some stability back to the situation, I think we can be sure that the club's owners and advisers are far superior in their business acumen than the gutter press. NC may have been manipulated out, but I am certain our great club will now rise above everything that gets thrown at it in the next few weeks. Hopefully, another club will have a newsworthy issue soon and then maybe we can drop out of the spotlight for a while and go back to focussing on doing what we do best - playing great football and fulfilling Marcus' dream. STID COYR
I think it's probably simpler than that. The Mail actively hates women so in a "war" between Nicola and Katharina they're always going to side with the man.

They're just haterz though. Ignore them.
[quote][p][bold]jezza[/bold] wrote: You have to remember that even Marcus had to rein Nicola in during his brief time in charge, and without the depth of friendship that those two shared, maybe managing NC can be more than a bit aggravating at times. The bigger issue for me is how much of this situation has been fuelled by the press who suddenly went from being very anti- to very pro Cortese. Like everyone else, I am only speculating, but I wonder how many others were really surprised by the the way the Mail in particular, and others in general, switched from being very anti-Saints and almost vitriolic about the 'dictatorial' regime, to very pro-Saints and extremely supportive of NC's work. My own conspiracy theory, for what it's worth, is that the initial hatred still simmers at the offices of the Mail and it's "supporter" papers. Having failed to turn the world against NC for being a dictator (mainly because his success supported his style to the extent that everyone tolerated it), they then used his own ego against him and praised him up to such an extent that he believed their hype was genuinely about his undeniable achievements. They then widely proclaimed that he had become indispensable and that he alone was to thank for getting the Saints to where we are. He trusted them enough to give them quotes that in fairness, were beginning to make him sound like he thought the club was his. This was obviously always going to irk the person whose money had actually gone into making the club what it is, and would no doubt be extremely unsettling to her. No business owner would ever want a senior employee to be allowed a position whereby the employee is thought of as more indispensable than the owner themselves, so she rightly stepped in to retrieve the situation and regain her authority. As the press expected, it would appear that NC was not prepared to relinquish any of the power he had enjoyed up until that point and so resigned rather than accept any control over his actions. My concern now is that the media are not prepared to leave it there. As soon as NC's resignation became public knowledge, MP's earlier comments about leaving if NC went were published everywhere. Stories of players leaving if MP went followed very quickly. At the same time, Ms Liebherr was criticised in some papers, When MP said he was staying, the reports were that Ms Liebherr is keen to sell the club. All of these stories appear to have no foundation at all, but all now seem aimed at unsettling the players, the manager and the owner. Today, MP's reticence to commit long-term (and as he doesn't yet know who his new boss is going to be, I don't blame him), is being used again to unsettle players. Then Ms Liebherr's statement that no players will be sold in the January window is being interpreted as meaning they will be sold in the summer. (What do the press want - a statement saying Southampton FC do not intend to sell a player ever again?) For me, she has said all she needs to say at the moment to bring some stability back to the situation, I think we can be sure that the club's owners and advisers are far superior in their business acumen than the gutter press. NC may have been manipulated out, but I am certain our great club will now rise above everything that gets thrown at it in the next few weeks. Hopefully, another club will have a newsworthy issue soon and then maybe we can drop out of the spotlight for a while and go back to focussing on doing what we do best - playing great football and fulfilling Marcus' dream. STID COYR[/p][/quote]I think it's probably simpler than that. The Mail actively hates women so in a "war" between Nicola and Katharina they're always going to side with the man. They're just haterz though. Ignore them. Santa Retfordia

10:15pm Fri 17 Jan 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Barcelona Saint wrote:
SaintAsh1964 wrote:
The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run.
The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave.

The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed.

Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business.

The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action.

The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated.

A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries.

It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest.

As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July.

The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf.

That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club.

The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company.

Lets give her a chance eh?
..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table."
What???
We're no way near it!!
I cringed at that too. People never learn...
[quote][p][bold]Barcelona Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintAsh1964[/bold] wrote: The Southampton owner, Katharina Liebherr, has reacted with surprise to the notion that former chairman Nicola Cortese was forced out, the club having offered him a new salary package last year and requested minor changes in the way the club was run. The daughter of the late Markus Liebherr, who saved Southampton from administration in 2009, wished to keep Cortese in charge, sources close to the owner have indicated, but wanted him to implement measures that meant he was not answerable solely to himself. Although he was regarded as an able administrator who oversaw the club's rise from League One to the Premier League with back-to-back promotion, it was his decision to leave. The manager, Mauricio Pochettino, confirmed that, despite suggestions in some quarters, he would not be quitting the club this month. The Argentine met with Liebherr herself over the last two days and gained the reassurances he needed. Cortese tendered his resignation in October after what the Liebherr camp say was the breakdown in negotiations over his salary package and changes to the way the club was run. Liebherr wanted a degree of oversight and accountability for Cortese's running of the club, although that did not extend to blocking signings and the minutiae of the daily business. The owner felt she had made him a "generous offer" and there were further attempts to persuade him to stay before Wednesday's announcement that he would be leaving the club. Those close to Liebherr said that she was not the type who desired to wrest day-to-day control of Southampton from its previous chairman, simply that she wanted basic corporate practice implemented. Cortese was the sole registered director of the club, which gave him great freedom of action. The club are already seeking to appoint a chief executive to take over Cortese's role, a highly prized job, given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table. While it is correct that Liebherr has little interest in football and inherited the club after her father's unexpected death in 2010, that does not mean that she wishes to preside over its demise, sources have indicated. A private woman, who lives in Zurich, she is now legally installed as Southampton chairman and spoke to staff there in the company of her advisers. Her key aim will be to appoint an executive capable of overseeing the club's affairs, with the indication that there have already been many enquiries. It was Liebherr's intention that Cortese would stay. Whether his departure plunges the club into crisis remains to be seen, although there was no suggestion that the players are about to agitate en masse to leave in protest. As for the future of the club's prize assets, including the £20m-rated left-back Luke Shaw, it was always likely he would be the target of bids from the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea this summer regardless of who was running the club. His value is protected by the five-year contract he signed in July. The Liebherrs founded the huge Swiss-German industrial group that has interests in plant machinery, mining and domestic appliances, among others. While there is no connection between the club and the current Liebherr Group, in 2009 Markus Liebherr bought Southampton, paid off around £12m of debts and began the investment that now stands at around £30m. He also recruited Cortese to run the club on his behalf. That arrangement had not changed after Markus's death and while it is not impossible the club could be sold at some time in the future, Katharina is said to be keen that the value of the asset is protected. She is the club's only shareholder and remains what her advisers are quite prepared to accept, the accidental owner of a Premier League football club. The next step will be the appointment of a chief executive when the club will be able to outline their plans for the future. However, Southampton were still fielding calls from agents inquiring about clients and potential transfer deals, in spite of Cortese's departure. Liebherr's advisers have engaged the services of a City of London public relations company. Lets give her a chance eh?[/p][/quote]..."given Southampton's status as a Premier League club just outside the relegation battle unfolding in the lower half of the table." What??? We're no way near it!![/p][/quote]I cringed at that too. People never learn... BigBugBuzzz

11:01pm Fri 17 Jan 14

aghios says...

Expat Saints here. Before NC's resignation I hadn't begun to feel this excited as a saint since going to the Dell as a 13 year old lad to M. Channon's testimonial on May 3rd 1976, or even in March 1977 when saints had brilliantly pulled back a two goal deficit against the class of Rensenbrink and Van der Elst with Anderlecht in the quarter final second leg of the European cup-winner's cup with just a few minutes to go before extra time.

I have to say I feel Cortese was something of a genius in what he did for this club, the likes of whom we will be very lucky ever to see again.

He made us believe, what with his leadership and know-how to completely re-brand the club and give it a unique identity and selling point. He was the ultimate outsider who came in, saw what could be improved and stopped the rot – transforming Saints from a potentially perennial “inbred provincial loser” image and feeder club.

Reading certain posts it seems NC is held to have been arrogant, divisive, and was an alienating character during his tenure. He had the gall, they say, to change the red and white stripes, to alienate staff, cleaners, ex-players, even going so far as to “unforgivably” take down portraits of the 1976 FA triumph.

However, reading between the lines, he was also a great moderniser, one who quickly realised the small-club mentality and the nimby-ish sacred cows, jobsworths and hangers-on in some quarters holding the club back whose influence had to be minimised.

SFC, with a catchment area of one million in Hampshire alone, is in the PL and is becoming a nationwide brand with a world following. We have a following in London and from as far as Scotland and the North West. NC stopped the closed shop attitude of the few and even made us look “cooler” visually, which should not be snorted at now that we've dropped the look that made us look like the Sunderlands and the Stokes of this world, not to mention the sickly yellow and blue “Arsenal” away strip in favour of the classier black shirts. In short we stand out.

Have we hit a glass ceiling? My instinct says that the longer we develop the Barcelona-type infrastructure, hang on to savvy MP and our players the only way is up.
Expat Saints here. Before NC's resignation I hadn't begun to feel this excited as a saint since going to the Dell as a 13 year old lad to M. Channon's testimonial on May 3rd 1976, or even in March 1977 when saints had brilliantly pulled back a two goal deficit against the class of Rensenbrink and Van der Elst with Anderlecht in the quarter final second leg of the European cup-winner's cup with just a few minutes to go before extra time. I have to say I feel Cortese was something of a genius in what he did for this club, the likes of whom we will be very lucky ever to see again. He made us believe, what with his leadership and know-how to completely re-brand the club and give it a unique identity and selling point. He was the ultimate outsider who came in, saw what could be improved and stopped the rot – transforming Saints from a potentially perennial “inbred provincial loser” image and feeder club. Reading certain posts it seems NC is held to have been arrogant, divisive, and was an alienating character during his tenure. He had the gall, they say, to change the red and white stripes, to alienate staff, cleaners, ex-players, even going so far as to “unforgivably” take down portraits of the 1976 FA triumph. However, reading between the lines, he was also a great moderniser, one who quickly realised the small-club mentality and the nimby-ish sacred cows, jobsworths and hangers-on in some quarters holding the club back whose influence had to be minimised. SFC, with a catchment area of one million in Hampshire alone, is in the PL and is becoming a nationwide brand with a world following. We have a following in London and from as far as Scotland and the North West. NC stopped the closed shop attitude of the few and even made us look “cooler” visually, which should not be snorted at now that we've dropped the look that made us look like the Sunderlands and the Stokes of this world, not to mention the sickly yellow and blue “Arsenal” away strip in favour of the classier black shirts. In short we stand out. Have we hit a glass ceiling? My instinct says that the longer we develop the Barcelona-type infrastructure, hang on to savvy MP and our players the only way is up. aghios

11:18pm Fri 17 Jan 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Tim Sherwood warns Pochettino: life would be tougher at Tottenham The Guardian 22:51

Hands off, Pochettino: Spurs boss issues warning to Argentine as he prepares... Daily Mail 22:38
Tim Sherwood warns Pochettino: life would be tougher at Tottenham The Guardian 22:51 Hands off, Pochettino: Spurs boss issues warning to Argentine as he prepares... Daily Mail 22:38 bluewhiteandred

11:25pm Fri 17 Jan 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Santa Retfordia wrote:
hedge end bob wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .
They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this!
Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son.
C O KATERINA.
It is all very well castigating the DE for not using her name, at least 10% of posters on here can't even spell it correctly.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: DE The lady has a first name please try and use it .[/p][/quote]They did! It's pretty standard house practice across newspapers to use someone's full name when you first refer to them and then just the surname for all subsequent uses. It's the 21st century and men and women are equal in this![/p][/quote]Santa i am 70 years old and would never address a LADY by her surname, 21st century .....not for me son. C O KATERINA.[/p][/quote]It is all very well castigating the DE for not using her name, at least 10% of posters on here can't even spell it correctly. OSPREYSAINT

12:14am Sat 18 Jan 14

BracknellSaint says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Tim Sherwood warns Pochettino: life would be tougher at Tottenham The Guardian 22:51

Hands off, Pochettino: Spurs boss issues warning to Argentine as he prepares... Daily Mail 22:38
Who's warning the Skunts' boss? Dog&Duck manager?
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Tim Sherwood warns Pochettino: life would be tougher at Tottenham The Guardian 22:51 Hands off, Pochettino: Spurs boss issues warning to Argentine as he prepares... Daily Mail 22:38[/p][/quote]Who's warning the Skunts' boss? Dog&Duck manager? BracknellSaint

2:21am Sat 18 Jan 14

THE12THMAN says...

pompey in spain wrote:
shes a real looker!....seriously i thought nc was good,once you knew about him and listerned to his interviews......big loss to you......are your fans up for it to support the club at this time???..........you got that gap with hull but youll be dropping soon,...hopefully, please!!!!!!!!!
Have you had a look at your league position? looks like you could be playing conference league football next season,what a shame. COYR
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: shes a real looker!....seriously i thought nc was good,once you knew about him and listerned to his interviews......big loss to you......are your fans up for it to support the club at this time???..........you got that gap with hull but youll be dropping soon,...hopefully, please!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Have you had a look at your league position? looks like you could be playing conference league football next season,what a shame. COYR THE12THMAN

3:28am Sat 18 Jan 14

DisplacedFan says...

pompey in spain wrote:
shes a real looker!....seriously i thought nc was good,once you knew about him and listerned to his interviews......big loss to you......are your fans up for it to support the club at this time???..........you got that gap with hull but youll be dropping soon,...hopefully, please!!!!!!!!!
What a dreamer. Are you top,of League Two yet? Focus your energy on surviving.
[quote][p][bold]pompey in spain[/bold] wrote: shes a real looker!....seriously i thought nc was good,once you knew about him and listerned to his interviews......big loss to you......are your fans up for it to support the club at this time???..........you got that gap with hull but youll be dropping soon,...hopefully, please!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]What a dreamer. Are you top,of League Two yet? Focus your energy on surviving. DisplacedFan

11:24pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Agent123 says...

Jose Fonte looks to be moving !!!!!!!!!!
Estate agent just offered his house to me and thev manager was over the moon to tell me who it was owned by he has just listed his house on the market and tells me he was told by Jose is moving abroad!!!!
http://www.rightmove
.co.uk/property-for-
sale/property-444928
07.html
Jose Fonte looks to be moving !!!!!!!!!! Estate agent just offered his house to me and thev manager was over the moon to tell me who it was owned by he has just listed his house on the market and tells me he was told by Jose is moving abroad!!!! http://www.rightmove .co.uk/property-for- sale/property-444928 07.html Agent123

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