Reality check for Saints' European dream - Pochettino

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Mauricio Pochettino admitted Saints’ European dream is virtually over after Tottenham launched a dramatic comeback to beat them 3-2.

Hopes of a top-six finish looked to be alive, as Saints raced into a well-deserved 2-0 lead inside half-an-hour at White Hart Lane.

But Tottenham rallied and ended up winning the game with Gylfi Sigurdsson’s added-time strike.

The result leaves Saints nine points adrift of sixth position, with just seven games left in their season.

Having played more matches than the three sides above them, there is little prospect of them overturning such a gap.

While Pochettino said that a Europa League spot is technically not yet impossible to achieve, he did admit that it is very unlikely.

“Mathematically it’s still possible to get into Europe, but we also have to see if the reality of the team is enough for us to be playing in Europe,” he said.

Pochettino believes the limited size of his squad is something that is beginning to hinder Saints as the campaign reaches its conclusion.

“We don’t have that many players on the bench and that’s making things difficult towards the end of the season, but we’re working to try to remedy that and to take advantage of every single player that we have,” he said.

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Saints did welcome back Jack Cork from injury for this match – a far quicker return than initially expected – but they were without the services of others, notably Morgan Schneiderlin and Victor Wanyama.

They also lost Nathaniel Clyne to a groin injury at White Hart Lane, while Jay Rodriguez, who scored the opening goal of the day, also went off.

“He did very well, but it’s a shame that he had to come off because of a swollen leg,” said Pochettino of his striker, who now has 15 goals this season.

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7:48am Mon 24 Mar 14

saint christopher says...

Mohammed Ali's motto: "Dance like a butterfly, sting like abee".

Could be a good description of Saint's developing style of play.....trouble is we don't yet have the staying power to go beyond 10 rounds, so that any opponent still standing is in with a real chance of getting a result.

Different tactics? Maybe - but let's not forget MoPo is also on a steep learning curve along with everyone else.

Different players? Definitely. Butterflies are beautiful but also very delicate and fragile, and I for one would like to see some steel being introduced in the summer. This is when we'll really see where the ambition lies - keep MoPo and our stars, add some quality, and we can begin to dream!
Mohammed Ali's motto: "Dance like a butterfly, sting like abee". Could be a good description of Saint's developing style of play.....trouble is we don't yet have the staying power to go beyond 10 rounds, so that any opponent still standing is in with a real chance of getting a result. Different tactics? Maybe - but let's not forget MoPo is also on a steep learning curve along with everyone else. Different players? Definitely. Butterflies are beautiful but also very delicate and fragile, and I for one would like to see some steel being introduced in the summer. This is when we'll really see where the ambition lies - keep MoPo and our stars, add some quality, and we can begin to dream! saint christopher
  • Score: 18

7:55am Mon 24 Mar 14

Southampton boy says...

Not sure about Pot's he at one poits say he does not want Euro Football then he stars to talk about it this late in the season, I have been saying that asea team we are not ready for this step up.
We have no depth in the squad and this is ture, if we are going to be a top 6 team then we need like the other teams 2 teams all ready to play or not play for Saints, it is still a great season for us and its something we can build on, we hve the set up here we just need the commitment from managment to get it all going so come on you reds take us to new hights next season
Not sure about Pot's he at one poits say he does not want Euro Football then he stars to talk about it this late in the season, I have been saying that asea team we are not ready for this step up. We have no depth in the squad and this is ture, if we are going to be a top 6 team then we need like the other teams 2 teams all ready to play or not play for Saints, it is still a great season for us and its something we can build on, we hve the set up here we just need the commitment from managment to get it all going so come on you reds take us to new hights next season Southampton boy
  • Score: 2

8:01am Mon 24 Mar 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Mauricio believing the size of Saints' squad is beginning to be a hindrance is hardly surprising, but I think this hindrance became apparent much earlier this season, as soon as there was an unfortunate run of injuries to several players. Saints were higher up the table before injuries took their toll.

Perhaps two or three quality players will be bought during the summer to improve the size and quality of the playing staff, perhaps more.

Here we are, with Saints already in no danger of relegation, seven matches from the end of this season. The club and its players are in the process of improving year on year. I'm looking forward to watching it happen and supporting our Saints. Nobody would ever have thought that Saints would progress this far so quickly, let alone already eyeing up the prospect of qualifying to compete in Europe. Wow!

Onwards and upwards!
Mauricio believing the size of Saints' squad is beginning to be a hindrance is hardly surprising, but I think this hindrance became apparent much earlier this season, as soon as there was an unfortunate run of injuries to several players. Saints were higher up the table before injuries took their toll. Perhaps two or three quality players will be bought during the summer to improve the size and quality of the playing staff, perhaps more. Here we are, with Saints already in no danger of relegation, seven matches from the end of this season. The club and its players are in the process of improving year on year. I'm looking forward to watching it happen and supporting our Saints. Nobody would ever have thought that Saints would progress this far so quickly, let alone already eyeing up the prospect of qualifying to compete in Europe. Wow! Onwards and upwards! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 31

8:13am Mon 24 Mar 14

damoose says...

Mopo`s comment`s about the Europa league being a good achievement for Saints but not for him kind of hints to what will happen in the summer imo,he holds absolutely no loyalty to us...and if Reading dont get promotion more than likely `Lucky Nige` will return and continue his project that was just about to take off ,before Mopo came and stole his glory
Mopo`s comment`s about the Europa league being a good achievement for Saints but not for him kind of hints to what will happen in the summer imo,he holds absolutely no loyalty to us...and if Reading dont get promotion more than likely `Lucky Nige` will return and continue his project that was just about to take off ,before Mopo came and stole his glory damoose
  • Score: -51

8:28am Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?
We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ? warrens 76
  • Score: 15

8:43am Mon 24 Mar 14

damoose says...

@warrens 76

Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit
@warrens 76 Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit damoose
  • Score: -13

9:08am Mon 24 Mar 14

killared says...

damoose wrote:
Mopo`s comment`s about the Europa league being a good achievement for Saints but not for him kind of hints to what will happen in the summer imo,he holds absolutely no loyalty to us...and if Reading dont get promotion more than likely `Lucky Nige` will return and continue his project that was just about to take off ,before Mopo came and stole his glory
What kind of BS is that statement ! What glory ? Yes he did a good job but he's not EPL material ! Just because Pochettino hasn't sign a new contract doesn't he'll go in the summer . Look at Wenger he hasn't sign yet and we all know he's gonna stay!. What happen yesterday was an accident we didn't kill the game when we should have ! Remember Spurs spend 120 million on players we spend 35 million ! The defence lost it Clyne was victim of lunging tackle which went unpunished. Lovren almost had a fight with Soldado and so on ! Let's forgive and forget and move on !
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Mopo`s comment`s about the Europa league being a good achievement for Saints but not for him kind of hints to what will happen in the summer imo,he holds absolutely no loyalty to us...and if Reading dont get promotion more than likely `Lucky Nige` will return and continue his project that was just about to take off ,before Mopo came and stole his glory[/p][/quote]What kind of BS is that statement ! What glory ? Yes he did a good job but he's not EPL material ! Just because Pochettino hasn't sign a new contract doesn't he'll go in the summer . Look at Wenger he hasn't sign yet and we all know he's gonna stay!. What happen yesterday was an accident we didn't kill the game when we should have ! Remember Spurs spend 120 million on players we spend 35 million ! The defence lost it Clyne was victim of lunging tackle which went unpunished. Lovren almost had a fight with Soldado and so on ! Let's forgive and forget and move on ! killared
  • Score: 14

9:27am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

damoose wrote:
@warrens 76

Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit
Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @warrens 76 Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit[/p][/quote]Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

9:44am Mon 24 Mar 14

SiamSaint says...

Reality check. MoPo is right not to want the compete in the Europa Vase. My feeling is (and yes, I don;t know his mind, this is jsut an opinion, which is what these boards are for) is that he realised he was pilloried for the Sunderland experiment so making a gung ho statement about playing Albanian or Scottish no-hopers in August was a way of playing to the muppets who called for his head. I am absolutely delighted with our progress - a season in Europe now could lead to immediate relegation and then he'd definitely be off, along with many other of the crown jewels. (And i don't mean Dejan's "huevos").
If you saw his quick interview on the pitch yesterday he said that Spuds and Saints are on a completely different project. For us it's all about consolidation and gradual progress. Remember the original vision: five years from League 1 to Prem? Then survival? This train may have a Ferrari engine in it, but it still needs to take this steady. Sixth place next season, with an enhanced squad, and then it might - just might - make sense to talk about being new the Spurs (or Everton). Yes, let'sr each of the moon, but keep our feet on the ground.
Reality check. MoPo is right not to want the compete in the Europa Vase. My feeling is (and yes, I don;t know his mind, this is jsut an opinion, which is what these boards are for) is that he realised he was pilloried for the Sunderland experiment so making a gung ho statement about playing Albanian or Scottish no-hopers in August was a way of playing to the muppets who called for his head. I am absolutely delighted with our progress - a season in Europe now could lead to immediate relegation and then he'd definitely be off, along with many other of the crown jewels. (And i don't mean Dejan's "huevos"). If you saw his quick interview on the pitch yesterday he said that Spuds and Saints are on a completely different project. For us it's all about consolidation and gradual progress. Remember the original vision: five years from League 1 to Prem? Then survival? This train may have a Ferrari engine in it, but it still needs to take this steady. Sixth place next season, with an enhanced squad, and then it might - just might - make sense to talk about being new the Spurs (or Everton). Yes, let'sr each of the moon, but keep our feet on the ground. SiamSaint
  • Score: 16

9:52am Mon 24 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.
If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest. jrod11
  • Score: -36

9:55am Mon 24 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
damoose wrote:
@warrens 76

Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit
Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion.
B1tch!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @warrens 76 Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit[/p][/quote]Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion.[/p][/quote]B1tch! ghk230473
  • Score: 2

10:00am Mon 24 Mar 14

damoose says...

@ Osprey

Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings
@ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings damoose
  • Score: 14

10:32am Mon 24 Mar 14

Confucious says...

The big plus yesterday was good performances from our England prospects. That World Cup is going to be so much more interesting with Saints in it.
The big plus yesterday was good performances from our England prospects. That World Cup is going to be so much more interesting with Saints in it. Confucious
  • Score: 16

10:37am Mon 24 Mar 14

expatsaint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?
The progress that Saints have made under MoPo is remarkable. Playing at White Hart lane against a side which has spent so many millions, we totally dominated them and looked like the team chasing a Champion's League place. Our greatest weakness is that we seem to slip into complacency mode and fail to kill teams off when we are so much in control. How many crass, schoolboy errors have we committed this season to allow teams back into the contest? Two yesterday, two last week against Norwich - which we just got away with - and countless others. As much as I love Lallana as a footballer, I think we need a Roy Keane 'psycho' type of skipper on the pitch to really instil discipline and banish this worrying tendency. If we get beaten by a better tyeam on the day, fair play but we're getting beaten by inferior teams and surrendering momentum through needless defensive howlers. But on a brighter note, there is no question that we're certainly going in the right direction and top 6 next season is definitely within our grasp!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?[/p][/quote]The progress that Saints have made under MoPo is remarkable. Playing at White Hart lane against a side which has spent so many millions, we totally dominated them and looked like the team chasing a Champion's League place. Our greatest weakness is that we seem to slip into complacency mode and fail to kill teams off when we are so much in control. How many crass, schoolboy errors have we committed this season to allow teams back into the contest? Two yesterday, two last week against Norwich - which we just got away with - and countless others. As much as I love Lallana as a footballer, I think we need a Roy Keane 'psycho' type of skipper on the pitch to really instil discipline and banish this worrying tendency. If we get beaten by a better tyeam on the day, fair play but we're getting beaten by inferior teams and surrendering momentum through needless defensive howlers. But on a brighter note, there is no question that we're certainly going in the right direction and top 6 next season is definitely within our grasp! expatsaint
  • Score: 16

10:37am Mon 24 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is,
MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back.
MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake.
MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters).
MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style.
posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff.
its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan.
because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone.

don't think I missed anything there.
could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen.
we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.
so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is, MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back. MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake. MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters). MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style. posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff. its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan. because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone. don't think I missed anything there. could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen. we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 18

10:48am Mon 24 Mar 14

Jesus_02 says...

damoose wrote:
@ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings
First one, he was dragged backwards I would hardly have said "nudged". The second one he was clearly off balance.

Some would say that to his credit he stayed on his feet, others may have said that if he went to ground (possibly falling on the ball and picking it up) he would have got a free kick. Another way to look at it is that he should have conceded corners for both.

Personally I don’t think either goals should have stood. If football and the rules that I learned was still played them, It would have been 1-1 (as saints second would have been given off-side, before all that first phase, second phase nonsense)

A draw would have been a fair result Spurs deserved that.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings[/p][/quote]First one, he was dragged backwards I would hardly have said "nudged". The second one he was clearly off balance. Some would say that to his credit he stayed on his feet, others may have said that if he went to ground (possibly falling on the ball and picking it up) he would have got a free kick. Another way to look at it is that he should have conceded corners for both. Personally I don’t think either goals should have stood. If football and the rules that I learned was still played them, It would have been 1-1 (as saints second would have been given off-side, before all that first phase, second phase nonsense) A draw would have been a fair result Spurs deserved that. Jesus_02
  • Score: 3

10:59am Mon 24 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

Defeat was hard to take because we did gift them 2 goals for what ever reason. Yes spuds have spent money but have been in a poor vein of form, played Thursday and we should have been fresher. Spuds couldn't have played any worse than the 2nd half but we resorted to hoofing it. We stopped working for each other and didn't string 2 passes together to play our way out of trouble. That for me was worrying, got ourselves a deserved 2 goal lead and appeared to have no fight to keep it. Back to the drawing board!
Defeat was hard to take because we did gift them 2 goals for what ever reason. Yes spuds have spent money but have been in a poor vein of form, played Thursday and we should have been fresher. Spuds couldn't have played any worse than the 2nd half but we resorted to hoofing it. We stopped working for each other and didn't string 2 passes together to play our way out of trouble. That for me was worrying, got ourselves a deserved 2 goal lead and appeared to have no fight to keep it. Back to the drawing board! ghk230473
  • Score: 1

11:03am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

damoose wrote:
@ Osprey

Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings
It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings[/p][/quote]It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:11am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Defeat was hard to take because we did gift them 2 goals for what ever reason. Yes spuds have spent money but have been in a poor vein of form, played Thursday and we should have been fresher. Spuds couldn't have played any worse than the 2nd half but we resorted to hoofing it. We stopped working for each other and didn't string 2 passes together to play our way out of trouble. That for me was worrying, got ourselves a deserved 2 goal lead and appeared to have no fight to keep it. Back to the drawing board!
Before the kick off yesterday my post
OSPREYSAINT says...
With our brick outhouse not available, and a cylinder missing from the midfield engine, we, as DM would say, don't want to be diddly deeing about in the midfield area, I hope we have a slightly different approach today and come up with some training ground routines that have actually been worked on. COYRs

I think I called that partly right, because we did try a different approach which worked for twenty minutes, then for some reason went into neutral and lost the plot. Lessons to be learned and we should be hoping for a better effort against Newcastle.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: Defeat was hard to take because we did gift them 2 goals for what ever reason. Yes spuds have spent money but have been in a poor vein of form, played Thursday and we should have been fresher. Spuds couldn't have played any worse than the 2nd half but we resorted to hoofing it. We stopped working for each other and didn't string 2 passes together to play our way out of trouble. That for me was worrying, got ourselves a deserved 2 goal lead and appeared to have no fight to keep it. Back to the drawing board![/p][/quote]Before the kick off yesterday my post OSPREYSAINT says... With our brick outhouse not available, and a cylinder missing from the midfield engine, we, as DM would say, don't want to be diddly deeing about in the midfield area, I hope we have a slightly different approach today and come up with some training ground routines that have actually been worked on. COYRs I think I called that partly right, because we did try a different approach which worked for twenty minutes, then for some reason went into neutral and lost the plot. Lessons to be learned and we should be hoping for a better effort against Newcastle. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -7

11:13am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ghk230473 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
damoose wrote:
@warrens 76

Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit
Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion.
B1tch!
lol now, now, if it ain't hurtin' it ain't workin'!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @warrens 76 Clyne was not injured,he took him off because of a mistake,which in turn made the rest of the players on edge and afraid to make a mistakes..also Lovern and Cork were not fit[/p][/quote]Are you the Saints physio assistant then? If so please you can keep us informed on the injury scene to other players. You will need to get the spelling right though, we don't want any confusion.[/p][/quote]B1tch![/p][/quote]lol now, now, if it ain't hurtin' it ain't workin'! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -3

11:14am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?
Perhaps the opposition were a tad better? Just maybe? On the day?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?[/p][/quote]Perhaps the opposition were a tad better? Just maybe? On the day? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

11:16am Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is,
MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back.
MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake.
MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters).
MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style.
posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff.
its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan.
because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone.

don't think I missed anything there.
could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen.
we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.
Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is, MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back. MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake. MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters). MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style. posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff. its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan. because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone. don't think I missed anything there. could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen. we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.[/p][/quote]Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:16am Mon 24 Mar 14

Shrewdsaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
damoose wrote:
@ Osprey

Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings
It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly.
May I respectfully request that you no longer refer to Mr Hodgson as Woy.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings[/p][/quote]It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly.[/p][/quote]May I respectfully request that you no longer refer to Mr Hodgson as Woy. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 7

11:42am Mon 24 Mar 14

miltonarcher says...

So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???
So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad??? miltonarcher
  • Score: 6

11:43am Mon 24 Mar 14

Mister E says...

jrod11 wrote:
If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.
I know being a football fan is all about opinions, but, really?
Forever grateful for Adkins contribution, and wish him all the best for the future.
Can't believe some of the comments on here!
MoPo ain't perfect (who is?), but he has done a great job so far. He's still learning as are the team. But he HAS taken us up a level.
We have a new board and structure - this summer we'll see the extent of their ambition. But, without breaking the bank, with two or three additions to the squad, who knows where we could finish next season! We've proved already we have the potential to compete towards the top of the Premiere League.
I for one really do hope that MoPo stays - he's earned my support and indeed respect.
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.[/p][/quote]I know being a football fan is all about opinions, but, really? Forever grateful for Adkins contribution, and wish him all the best for the future. Can't believe some of the comments on here! MoPo ain't perfect (who is?), but he has done a great job so far. He's still learning as are the team. But he HAS taken us up a level. We have a new board and structure - this summer we'll see the extent of their ambition. But, without breaking the bank, with two or three additions to the squad, who knows where we could finish next season! We've proved already we have the potential to compete towards the top of the Premiere League. I for one really do hope that MoPo stays - he's earned my support and indeed respect. Mister E
  • Score: 6

11:51am Mon 24 Mar 14

Redrobbo says...

How far we have come can be measured by the fact that we are disappointed to leave White Hart Lane having lost by the odd goal. At the start of the season anyone would have settled for a top 10 finish. Look at the top 4 how many established internationals do they have compared to us? We are a young team in development. Yesterday two individual errors cost us two goals, and while our two goals were great finishes they also came about because of defensive errors. Our young players will learn from this season and hopefully that will stand us in good stead for next year and beyond. The thought of a Saints squad with half the players coming up through the Academy fills me with excitement and pride. We could very soon have half a dozen players in the England squad add Theo and Oxo to that and what an achievement that would be for little old Southampton.
How far we have come can be measured by the fact that we are disappointed to leave White Hart Lane having lost by the odd goal. At the start of the season anyone would have settled for a top 10 finish. Look at the top 4 how many established internationals do they have compared to us? We are a young team in development. Yesterday two individual errors cost us two goals, and while our two goals were great finishes they also came about because of defensive errors. Our young players will learn from this season and hopefully that will stand us in good stead for next year and beyond. The thought of a Saints squad with half the players coming up through the Academy fills me with excitement and pride. We could very soon have half a dozen players in the England squad add Theo and Oxo to that and what an achievement that would be for little old Southampton. Redrobbo
  • Score: 11

12:00pm Mon 24 Mar 14

killared says...

jrod11 wrote:
If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.
What kind of BS is that ! If you are happy to be in the relegation fight next year then please support Reading if they go up. Adkins is a good Championship manager but not a good EPL manager. I can't believe that comment remember where we were not long ago so you should be grateful that we are fighting for a place in Europa league and safe from a relegation fight. Also remember Adkins bought Hoovield and Ramirez and them both are flops so no Adkins for me !
[quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.[/p][/quote]What kind of BS is that ! If you are happy to be in the relegation fight next year then please support Reading if they go up. Adkins is a good Championship manager but not a good EPL manager. I can't believe that comment remember where we were not long ago so you should be grateful that we are fighting for a place in Europa league and safe from a relegation fight. Also remember Adkins bought Hoovield and Ramirez and them both are flops so no Adkins for me ! killared
  • Score: 0

12:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Shrewdsaint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
damoose wrote:
@ Osprey

Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings
It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly.
May I respectfully request that you no longer refer to Mr Hodgson as Woy.
I had already ceased to do that after being flamed previously, it is an epiphet used widely across the other sites but if it is deemed offensive I will concur. He will be called worse than that later when we fail to get far in the World Cup, mark my words, some people are not man enough to accept failure.
[quote][p][bold]Shrewdsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @ Osprey Ok so Lovern was fit in your opinion .. but please tell me when youve ever seen him get nudged off the ball twice like that? he did not train fully all week ,I dont need to be a physio to see that, it was in the news,you just got to learn more about football and less about spellings[/p][/quote]It's spelt Lovren, and the first goal came as a result of Clynes failure to control a cross, but the cross came as a result of Dejan being fouled with a subtle tug on the arm which caused him to go down as he went to clear the ball. The second was an error by Dejan, he allowed himself to be bullied off the ball, something that is rare, but will happen from time to time. Clyne was suffering from a knock from Rose, if you pay more attention you may have spotted that, however the error could have been playing on his mind and affecting his efficiency, only Poch could tell you the truth. As you well know Dejan hadn't trained because of a nasty injury last Saturday, however the Club would not have allowed him to play if he wasn't up to the mark, they use a lot of equipment to monitor a players fitness and I give them more credence, than I do to you or the newspapers. I care about spelling of players names as I consider it disrespectful of people who can't be bothered to spell their names correctly.[/p][/quote]May I respectfully request that you no longer refer to Mr Hodgson as Woy.[/p][/quote]I had already ceased to do that after being flamed previously, it is an epiphet used widely across the other sites but if it is deemed offensive I will concur. He will be called worse than that later when we fail to get far in the World Cup, mark my words, some people are not man enough to accept failure. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

12:14pm Mon 24 Mar 14

jrod11 says...

Mister E wrote:
jrod11 wrote:
If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.
I know being a football fan is all about opinions, but, really?
Forever grateful for Adkins contribution, and wish him all the best for the future.
Can't believe some of the comments on here!
MoPo ain't perfect (who is?), but he has done a great job so far. He's still learning as are the team. But he HAS taken us up a level.
We have a new board and structure - this summer we'll see the extent of their ambition. But, without breaking the bank, with two or three additions to the squad, who knows where we could finish next season! We've proved already we have the potential to compete towards the top of the Premiere League.
I for one really do hope that MoPo stays - he's earned my support and indeed respect.
Poch is a decent enough manager but he is using the club as a stepping stone and will move on soon as the club is not big enough for his ambitions.


.
[quote][p][bold]Mister E[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jrod11[/bold] wrote: If Poch leaves the club would most people really be that bothered ? i would rather see Adkins back to be honest.[/p][/quote]I know being a football fan is all about opinions, but, really? Forever grateful for Adkins contribution, and wish him all the best for the future. Can't believe some of the comments on here! MoPo ain't perfect (who is?), but he has done a great job so far. He's still learning as are the team. But he HAS taken us up a level. We have a new board and structure - this summer we'll see the extent of their ambition. But, without breaking the bank, with two or three additions to the squad, who knows where we could finish next season! We've proved already we have the potential to compete towards the top of the Premiere League. I for one really do hope that MoPo stays - he's earned my support and indeed respect.[/p][/quote]Poch is a decent enough manager but he is using the club as a stepping stone and will move on soon as the club is not big enough for his ambitions. . jrod11
  • Score: 0

12:17pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

miltonarcher wrote:
So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???
His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???[/p][/quote]His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -6

12:49pm Mon 24 Mar 14

townieboy says...

think europe was over when saints res. lost to Sunderland Res. in the cup
think europe was over when saints res. lost to Sunderland Res. in the cup townieboy
  • Score: 8

1:31pm Mon 24 Mar 14

saints fan #1 says...

To sum up this season, its been great the games for Saints have been amazing. We have got to learn from this season were our strengths and weaknessess are and build on that for next season. Can't wait for next season.
I think for the rest of the season every Saints player should be given game time to keep them improving. Play the yougsters more often for their confidence building. Then last game of the season against Manure get the best we have and Manure all over them.
To sum up this season, its been great the games for Saints have been amazing. We have got to learn from this season were our strengths and weaknessess are and build on that for next season. Can't wait for next season. I think for the rest of the season every Saints player should be given game time to keep them improving. Play the yougsters more often for their confidence building. Then last game of the season against Manure get the best we have and Manure all over them. saints fan #1
  • Score: 2

1:37pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Please learn to smell the fish fiddlers!

Yesterday was unfortunate. We were awesome for most of the first half and then Clyne made a total hash of it which transformed the balance of confidence and therefore the game. He's a great young full back and will learn from this, it's just one of those things.
Please learn to smell the fish fiddlers! Yesterday was unfortunate. We were awesome for most of the first half and then Clyne made a total hash of it which transformed the balance of confidence and therefore the game. He's a great young full back and will learn from this, it's just one of those things. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

1:40pm Mon 24 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is,
MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back.
MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake.
MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters).
MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style.
posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff.
its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan.
because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone.

don't think I missed anything there.
could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen.
we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.
Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed!
opers, I still get `flamed` by certain posters, mainly wums and neg heads, and like you I really don't care, if people want to make themselves look stupid that's up to them.
as I said to you before, I really don't understand why you get thumbs down for some posts, like yesterday when you were putting the stoke score up, I think they just see your name and click down without even reading your posts.
you might get more than me because you pick people up on spellings and caps. it is annoying when people get the players names wrong, I am guilty of it as well though, but the most annoying for me is when you see adkins as atkins, or the there/their where/were mistakes but some aren't as good as spelling as others or don't use spell check ;0). killared always posts saint not saints but hes French and English is not his first language so I don't let it bother me. you also have to allow for this site which is so annoying at times for missing letters, I sometimes lose whole words.
I don't care that you pick people up on spellings though to be honest, you are providing a public service and some would do well to learn from their mistakes not just moan at you. as I said though its your choice just as much as it red army`s choice to post in caps lock and mine to ramble on about nothing most of the time.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is, MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back. MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake. MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters). MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style. posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff. its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan. because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone. don't think I missed anything there. could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen. we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.[/p][/quote]Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed![/p][/quote]opers, I still get `flamed` by certain posters, mainly wums and neg heads, and like you I really don't care, if people want to make themselves look stupid that's up to them. as I said to you before, I really don't understand why you get thumbs down for some posts, like yesterday when you were putting the stoke score up, I think they just see your name and click down without even reading your posts. you might get more than me because you pick people up on spellings and caps. it is annoying when people get the players names wrong, I am guilty of it as well though, but the most annoying for me is when you see adkins as atkins, or the there/their where/were mistakes but some aren't as good as spelling as others or don't use spell check ;0). killared always posts saint not saints but hes French and English is not his first language so I don't let it bother me. you also have to allow for this site which is so annoying at times for missing letters, I sometimes lose whole words. I don't care that you pick people up on spellings though to be honest, you are providing a public service and some would do well to learn from their mistakes not just moan at you. as I said though its your choice just as much as it red army`s choice to post in caps lock and mine to ramble on about nothing most of the time. el caballo santos101
  • Score: -2

2:32pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is,
MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back.
MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake.
MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters).
MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style.
posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff.
its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan.
because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone.

don't think I missed anything there.
could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen.
we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.
Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed!
opers, I still get `flamed` by certain posters, mainly wums and neg heads, and like you I really don't care, if people want to make themselves look stupid that's up to them.
as I said to you before, I really don't understand why you get thumbs down for some posts, like yesterday when you were putting the stoke score up, I think they just see your name and click down without even reading your posts.
you might get more than me because you pick people up on spellings and caps. it is annoying when people get the players names wrong, I am guilty of it as well though, but the most annoying for me is when you see adkins as atkins, or the there/their where/were mistakes but some aren't as good as spelling as others or don't use spell check ;0). killared always posts saint not saints but hes French and English is not his first language so I don't let it bother me. you also have to allow for this site which is so annoying at times for missing letters, I sometimes lose whole words.
I don't care that you pick people up on spellings though to be honest, you are providing a public service and some would do well to learn from their mistakes not just moan at you. as I said though its your choice just as much as it red army`s choice to post in caps lock and mine to ramble on about nothing most of the time.
You will probably find I only have a dig at the neggies and WUMs, if you post sensible material, and make mistakes, I won't pick up on that! The missing word / letter thing is also puzzling at times. I also make errors of spelling too, long time since I attempted call Spider by his surname, that's a minefield! The would of / would have thing really gets my goat for some reason, but it is so common I wonder if it is taught that way in modern schools? I have got used to red armys rants, he doesn't seem to be abusing other teams and managers so much, concentrating on rallying our guys is what he is good at, we need more doing that.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is, MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back. MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake. MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters). MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style. posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff. its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan. because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone. don't think I missed anything there. could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen. we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.[/p][/quote]Spot on, if I had said that I would have got flamed![/p][/quote]opers, I still get `flamed` by certain posters, mainly wums and neg heads, and like you I really don't care, if people want to make themselves look stupid that's up to them. as I said to you before, I really don't understand why you get thumbs down for some posts, like yesterday when you were putting the stoke score up, I think they just see your name and click down without even reading your posts. you might get more than me because you pick people up on spellings and caps. it is annoying when people get the players names wrong, I am guilty of it as well though, but the most annoying for me is when you see adkins as atkins, or the there/their where/were mistakes but some aren't as good as spelling as others or don't use spell check ;0). killared always posts saint not saints but hes French and English is not his first language so I don't let it bother me. you also have to allow for this site which is so annoying at times for missing letters, I sometimes lose whole words. I don't care that you pick people up on spellings though to be honest, you are providing a public service and some would do well to learn from their mistakes not just moan at you. as I said though its your choice just as much as it red army`s choice to post in caps lock and mine to ramble on about nothing most of the time.[/p][/quote]You will probably find I only have a dig at the neggies and WUMs, if you post sensible material, and make mistakes, I won't pick up on that! The missing word / letter thing is also puzzling at times. I also make errors of spelling too, long time since I attempted call Spider by his surname, that's a minefield! The would of / would have thing really gets my goat for some reason, but it is so common I wonder if it is taught that way in modern schools? I have got used to red armys rants, he doesn't seem to be abusing other teams and managers so much, concentrating on rallying our guys is what he is good at, we need more doing that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

2:33pm Mon 24 Mar 14

CB FRY LIVES says...

The reality check came away at Sunderland in the FA CUP where poor team selection cost the SAINTS European cause dear.
Still lets get our own back on the North East by smashing the Toon on Saturday6.Three more points for Poch's boys please.
COYR
The reality check came away at Sunderland in the FA CUP where poor team selection cost the SAINTS European cause dear. Still lets get our own back on the North East by smashing the Toon on Saturday6.Three more points for Poch's boys please. COYR CB FRY LIVES
  • Score: 4

2:36pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Please learn to smell the fish fiddlers!

Yesterday was unfortunate. We were awesome for most of the first half and then Clyne made a total hash of it which transformed the balance of confidence and therefore the game. He's a great young full back and will learn from this, it's just one of those things.
Some need naming and shaming, I have a poor record of sniffing them out until it is too late!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Please learn to smell the fish fiddlers! Yesterday was unfortunate. We were awesome for most of the first half and then Clyne made a total hash of it which transformed the balance of confidence and therefore the game. He's a great young full back and will learn from this, it's just one of those things.[/p][/quote]Some need naming and shaming, I have a poor record of sniffing them out until it is too late! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

3:11pm Mon 24 Mar 14

saintmac says...

Yes,a very disappointing result but we are a team that is still evolving and developing.It takes time to develop a top team and I think many who post on here are a little bit impatient. IMHO I think MP will accept a new contract and
in consequence the team will stay together.There are not many clubs where
the team is so close knit like a family and this means a lot to them.
KL said she wanted to bring a smile to the fans faces and nothing either she or
RK have said has changed that.Money will be made available in the summer
to strengthen the team so lets support the players for the final games and thank them and MP for a great season.How many of us would have thought
finishing in the top 8 at the start of the season?
Enjoy the rest of the season and see who we buy in the summer.
Yes,a very disappointing result but we are a team that is still evolving and developing.It takes time to develop a top team and I think many who post on here are a little bit impatient. IMHO I think MP will accept a new contract and in consequence the team will stay together.There are not many clubs where the team is so close knit like a family and this means a lot to them. KL said she wanted to bring a smile to the fans faces and nothing either she or RK have said has changed that.Money will be made available in the summer to strengthen the team so lets support the players for the final games and thank them and MP for a great season.How many of us would have thought finishing in the top 8 at the start of the season? Enjoy the rest of the season and see who we buy in the summer. saintmac
  • Score: 6

3:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

miltonarcher says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???
His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there.
WOW! Players getting injuries! Now who could have predicted that? Next you will be suggesting there could also be suspensions.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???[/p][/quote]His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there.[/p][/quote]WOW! Players getting injuries! Now who could have predicted that? Next you will be suggesting there could also be suspensions. miltonarcher
  • Score: -3

3:31pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Saintsayer II says...

To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League Saintsayer II
  • Score: 1

3:44pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Velleity says...

We're still a work in progress. Another striker, a CB and some cover for Luke and we'll end next season higher than this.

I have no doubt whatsoever that MP will be working on getting the team to keep their minds focussed on doing the job for 90 minutes.

That obviously assumes we'll keep the players we have. That's something Ralph and Mauricio need to work on with the entire squad; they need to believe that we still have the vision to get to the top so they want to stay.
We're still a work in progress. Another striker, a CB and some cover for Luke and we'll end next season higher than this. I have no doubt whatsoever that MP will be working on getting the team to keep their minds focussed on doing the job for 90 minutes. That obviously assumes we'll keep the players we have. That's something Ralph and Mauricio need to work on with the entire squad; they need to believe that we still have the vision to get to the top so they want to stay. Velleity
  • Score: 4

4:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

miltonarcher wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???
His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there.
WOW! Players getting injuries! Now who could have predicted that? Next you will be suggesting there could also be suspensions.
It is a matter of luck is it not, some teams are luckier than others, if a first XI can keep fit for more games the better the side will play, how many red cards have we had this season?
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: So Poch now thinks the squad is limited. How does that fit with his comment in Jan that he was happy with the squad???[/p][/quote]His crystal ball is faulty, it didn't tell him that there would be a succession of crucial injuries at critical times, he should be given the opportunity to strengthen, but it isn't easy keeping players happy sitting on the bench waiting for a call. If a first team XI suddenly went on an injury free run there would be some really frustrated guys out there.[/p][/quote]WOW! Players getting injuries! Now who could have predicted that? Next you will be suggesting there could also be suspensions.[/p][/quote]It is a matter of luck is it not, some teams are luckier than others, if a first XI can keep fit for more games the better the side will play, how many red cards have we had this season? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

4:25pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Egomaniac says...

Some interesting contributions on this theme today!

What depresses me is the fact that we are safe from relegation (if not mathematically!!) so there's a distinct lack of stress and excitement over the last seven games!! 'Will we' or 'won't we' type stress has been eliminated!

Still, as an old timer Saints' supporter, I have had a good season. Who would have thought that we should end up in the top half of the Premier league at the end of the season bearing in mind where we were four years ago.

The replacing of NA for MP was a master stroke, and transformed the character of the Club in virtually every respect. Yet 15 months ago I was seething at the decision, even though I had questioned NA's suitability for the Premier task at the time.

I was again incensed while watching MotD on Sunday with Schmeichel suggesting Lallana should be signed up by MU! Why? His response was that Southampton are not a big club like MU, and Lallana needed to go to a big club! I don't know how my TV remained in one piece!

What of next season? I really do hope MP decides to stay, and we are able to strengthen the team. If we can hold on to our top class players as well, I see no reason why we should not compete at the very highest level. Look at what Everton has achieved this season - we should be able to equal that success, and I do not think it would cost as much as some might think.

Sunday's game clearly illustrated the weaknesses in our team - lack of resilience and to some extent complacency, lack of experience all round too. These problems can be solved (please do not bring Osvaldo back!!) with some shrewd signings. I well remember Liverpool in the late seventies and eighties - a very talented team, and only a couple of star names e.g. Keegan. Look what good management and team spirit did for them at the time.

I truly believe we can achieve if we can keep hold of MP and the stars. Let's live the dream …………..!!

Osprey - I hope I've spelt all the name correctly and my grammar is OK!!
Some interesting contributions on this theme today! What depresses me is the fact that we are safe from relegation (if not mathematically!!) so there's a distinct lack of stress and excitement over the last seven games!! 'Will we' or 'won't we' type stress has been eliminated! Still, as an old timer Saints' supporter, I have had a good season. Who would have thought that we should end up in the top half of the Premier league at the end of the season bearing in mind where we were four years ago. The replacing of NA for MP was a master stroke, and transformed the character of the Club in virtually every respect. Yet 15 months ago I was seething at the decision, even though I had questioned NA's suitability for the Premier task at the time. I was again incensed while watching MotD on Sunday with Schmeichel suggesting Lallana should be signed up by MU! Why? His response was that Southampton are not a big club like MU, and Lallana needed to go to a big club! I don't know how my TV remained in one piece! What of next season? I really do hope MP decides to stay, and we are able to strengthen the team. If we can hold on to our top class players as well, I see no reason why we should not compete at the very highest level. Look at what Everton has achieved this season - we should be able to equal that success, and I do not think it would cost as much as some might think. Sunday's game clearly illustrated the weaknesses in our team - lack of resilience and to some extent complacency, lack of experience all round too. These problems can be solved (please do not bring Osvaldo back!!) with some shrewd signings. I well remember Liverpool in the late seventies and eighties - a very talented team, and only a couple of star names e.g. Keegan. Look what good management and team spirit did for them at the time. I truly believe we can achieve if we can keep hold of MP and the stars. Let's live the dream …………..!! Osprey - I hope I've spelt all the name correctly and my grammar is OK!! Egomaniac
  • Score: 8

4:27pm Mon 24 Mar 14

george chivers says...

Confucious wrote:
The big plus yesterday was good performances from our England prospects. That World Cup is going to be so much more interesting with Saints in it.
I know you are trying to be positive and you are right about the WC. But give a thought to how the absence of 6 o 7 players will affect us when they miss the start of pre-season, come home and then go on holiday for two weeks. And some players will go and some new ones will come in, we may struggle a bit at the start of next season's PL before we get the squad settled. Unfortunately if England get the quarter finals Southampton and Liverpool will suffer the most in August.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: The big plus yesterday was good performances from our England prospects. That World Cup is going to be so much more interesting with Saints in it.[/p][/quote]I know you are trying to be positive and you are right about the WC. But give a thought to how the absence of 6 o 7 players will affect us when they miss the start of pre-season, come home and then go on holiday for two weeks. And some players will go and some new ones will come in, we may struggle a bit at the start of next season's PL before we get the squad settled. Unfortunately if England get the quarter finals Southampton and Liverpool will suffer the most in August. george chivers
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Egomaniac wrote:
Some interesting contributions on this theme today!

What depresses me is the fact that we are safe from relegation (if not mathematically!!) so there's a distinct lack of stress and excitement over the last seven games!! 'Will we' or 'won't we' type stress has been eliminated!

Still, as an old timer Saints' supporter, I have had a good season. Who would have thought that we should end up in the top half of the Premier league at the end of the season bearing in mind where we were four years ago.

The replacing of NA for MP was a master stroke, and transformed the character of the Club in virtually every respect. Yet 15 months ago I was seething at the decision, even though I had questioned NA's suitability for the Premier task at the time.

I was again incensed while watching MotD on Sunday with Schmeichel suggesting Lallana should be signed up by MU! Why? His response was that Southampton are not a big club like MU, and Lallana needed to go to a big club! I don't know how my TV remained in one piece!

What of next season? I really do hope MP decides to stay, and we are able to strengthen the team. If we can hold on to our top class players as well, I see no reason why we should not compete at the very highest level. Look at what Everton has achieved this season - we should be able to equal that success, and I do not think it would cost as much as some might think.

Sunday's game clearly illustrated the weaknesses in our team - lack of resilience and to some extent complacency, lack of experience all round too. These problems can be solved (please do not bring Osvaldo back!!) with some shrewd signings. I well remember Liverpool in the late seventies and eighties - a very talented team, and only a couple of star names e.g. Keegan. Look what good management and team spirit did for them at the time.

I truly believe we can achieve if we can keep hold of MP and the stars. Let's live the dream …………..!!

Osprey - I hope I've spelt all the name correctly and my grammar is OK!!
10/10 Others will struggle to match that one, but I hope they try!
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: Some interesting contributions on this theme today! What depresses me is the fact that we are safe from relegation (if not mathematically!!) so there's a distinct lack of stress and excitement over the last seven games!! 'Will we' or 'won't we' type stress has been eliminated! Still, as an old timer Saints' supporter, I have had a good season. Who would have thought that we should end up in the top half of the Premier league at the end of the season bearing in mind where we were four years ago. The replacing of NA for MP was a master stroke, and transformed the character of the Club in virtually every respect. Yet 15 months ago I was seething at the decision, even though I had questioned NA's suitability for the Premier task at the time. I was again incensed while watching MotD on Sunday with Schmeichel suggesting Lallana should be signed up by MU! Why? His response was that Southampton are not a big club like MU, and Lallana needed to go to a big club! I don't know how my TV remained in one piece! What of next season? I really do hope MP decides to stay, and we are able to strengthen the team. If we can hold on to our top class players as well, I see no reason why we should not compete at the very highest level. Look at what Everton has achieved this season - we should be able to equal that success, and I do not think it would cost as much as some might think. Sunday's game clearly illustrated the weaknesses in our team - lack of resilience and to some extent complacency, lack of experience all round too. These problems can be solved (please do not bring Osvaldo back!!) with some shrewd signings. I well remember Liverpool in the late seventies and eighties - a very talented team, and only a couple of star names e.g. Keegan. Look what good management and team spirit did for them at the time. I truly believe we can achieve if we can keep hold of MP and the stars. Let's live the dream …………..!! Osprey - I hope I've spelt all the name correctly and my grammar is OK!![/p][/quote]10/10 Others will struggle to match that one, but I hope they try! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:58pm Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring….

..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in…

..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us…

...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it…

..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse.

We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder..
When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring…. ..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in… ..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us… ...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it… ..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse. We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder.. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

4:59pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Positively4thStreet says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?
Its worrying that two weeks in a row,leads that should have put games to bed,have been allowed to slip away,and led to anxious finishes.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?[/p][/quote]Its worrying that two weeks in a row,leads that should have put games to bed,have been allowed to slip away,and led to anxious finishes. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

5:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring….

..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in…

..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us…

...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it…

..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse.

We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder..
Maybe jrod, lallana, and srl should work harder at finding space to be an outlet than dropping deep to help out? I don't know. I know when we are struggling as srl looks crap as he can't pick a pass out as no one is showing. I do agree we need to be a bit more nasty, we get mugged off too much. Rose for 1 was suttlely kicking lumps out of us.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring…. ..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in… ..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us… ...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it… ..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse. We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder..[/p][/quote]Maybe jrod, lallana, and srl should work harder at finding space to be an outlet than dropping deep to help out? I don't know. I know when we are struggling as srl looks crap as he can't pick a pass out as no one is showing. I do agree we need to be a bit more nasty, we get mugged off too much. Rose for 1 was suttlely kicking lumps out of us. ghk230473
  • Score: 0

5:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

lowe esteem says...

warrens 76 wrote:
We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?
fannying around -not always necessary.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: We went from total control to total fear…remember before MoPo panicky clearances and a desperate last 20 minutes was the order of the day, inside many of our players that fear factor still lurks…we probably gave the ball away more in yesterdays second half than any other game this season…why ?[/p][/quote]fannying around -not always necessary. lowe esteem
  • Score: 2

5:35pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ChandlersFordKev says...

Excuse me.

We were never going to make Europe weeks ago. I read here weeks ago and it was quoted the Europa League was not worth the paper written on it.

However, this article says, its a big issue.

The best time to get a Europa League place was to get 3 wins on the back to Sunderland in the FA Cup. Maybe its a bout time he apologised to me and the countless fans who made the long journey to the Stadium of Light.

Rather than saying on the back of Spurs.

All we want is a team who is the best we can give out, fail then, so be it.
Excuse me. We were never going to make Europe weeks ago. I read here weeks ago and it was quoted the Europa League was not worth the paper written on it. However, this article says, its a big issue. The best time to get a Europa League place was to get 3 wins on the back to Sunderland in the FA Cup. Maybe its a bout time he apologised to me and the countless fans who made the long journey to the Stadium of Light. Rather than saying on the back of Spurs. All we want is a team who is the best we can give out, fail then, so be it. ChandlersFordKev
  • Score: 0

5:45pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 3

6:10pm Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
Money got rid of the Cup winners cup..incidentally the Cup winners won more Super cups than the European cup winners (for what it's worth)..

I think that because the CL is now the be all and end all it has to adopt a more egalitarian approach...perhaps all the Europa entrants and 3rd and fourth place teams enter a knockout tournament, meanwhile the Winners and 2nd places are in effect seeded a la tennis before the group draw...

The big clubs 'almost' keep their guaranteed payday but others get a 'Rocky' shot at the title..
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.[/p][/quote]Money got rid of the Cup winners cup..incidentally the Cup winners won more Super cups than the European cup winners (for what it's worth).. I think that because the CL is now the be all and end all it has to adopt a more egalitarian approach...perhaps all the Europa entrants and 3rd and fourth place teams enter a knockout tournament, meanwhile the Winners and 2nd places are in effect seeded a la tennis before the group draw... The big clubs 'almost' keep their guaranteed payday but others get a 'Rocky' shot at the title.. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

6:12pm Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring….

..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in…

..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us…

...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it…

..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse.

We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder..
Maybe jrod, lallana, and srl should work harder at finding space to be an outlet than dropping deep to help out? I don't know. I know when we are struggling as srl looks crap as he can't pick a pass out as no one is showing. I do agree we need to be a bit more nasty, we get mugged off too much. Rose for 1 was suttlely kicking lumps out of us.
They dare not as our defense is to wobbly...funnily enough tighten the defense and the goals will come because as you say the forwards and attacking midfielders can do just that!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: When we play the ball around and take the pi55 it is wonderful, however what seperates us from the very top is we are no good at handling pressure ourselves..JRod, Adam and SRL are continually back helping our defence which is incredibly tiring…. ..now why are they doing that, in short because our defense is not quite good enough, so when it goes wrong panic really sets in… ..moreover our players work there socks off play lovely football and whilst these bad decisions are 'supposed' to even out I feel that the big decisions, penalties, fouls, pushing in the area go against us… ...because to their credit they do not adopt Fergie and Keane tactics when decisions go against them, instead heads drop when we should be getting on with it… ..lovely lads and decent temperament but we a'int in Kansas anymore they simply have got to respond different, ie " you cheated us so now watch us really do you" instead there is a collective mental collapse. We are on the cusp..we can play, we can score, we can retain possession, now we have to be a bit harder..[/p][/quote]Maybe jrod, lallana, and srl should work harder at finding space to be an outlet than dropping deep to help out? I don't know. I know when we are struggling as srl looks crap as he can't pick a pass out as no one is showing. I do agree we need to be a bit more nasty, we get mugged off too much. Rose for 1 was suttlely kicking lumps out of us.[/p][/quote]They dare not as our defense is to wobbly...funnily enough tighten the defense and the goals will come because as you say the forwards and attacking midfielders can do just that! warrens 76
  • Score: -1

6:24pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
I agree and the first stages should be more localised, away ties in Outer Mongolia are of no use to us at all.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.[/p][/quote]I agree and the first stages should be more localised, away ties in Outer Mongolia are of no use to us at all. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:25pm Mon 24 Mar 14

saintbobby says...

I agree with Egomaniac above. For me now I look forward to a few more wins this season but everyone should now be praying that everyone, I repeat everyone, stays at the club. It is so exciting seeing these young lads starting or coming off the bench. Sure there is a lot to learn, but such skill and enthusiasm is so good for the club and, indeed for English football. Heck, we had 4 players in the last England team at Wembley, and does anyone remember that before?

Things were upsetting on Sunday. Apparently, we had only 48% possession and this was the lowest since the Yeovil match. The winning goal was a bit flakey and no point moaning about the ref after the final whistle.

The point is obvious - 2 up away from home should be worth 3 points. But bad luck and not adjusting to play in the second half quickly enough saw these evaporate. Very disappointing and I will not repeat what I said in the 94th minute - but you all know, anyway.

Up the Saints!
I agree with Egomaniac above. For me now I look forward to a few more wins this season but everyone should now be praying that everyone, I repeat everyone, stays at the club. It is so exciting seeing these young lads starting or coming off the bench. Sure there is a lot to learn, but such skill and enthusiasm is so good for the club and, indeed for English football. Heck, we had 4 players in the last England team at Wembley, and does anyone remember that before? Things were upsetting on Sunday. Apparently, we had only 48% possession and this was the lowest since the Yeovil match. The winning goal was a bit flakey and no point moaning about the ref after the final whistle. The point is obvious - 2 up away from home should be worth 3 points. But bad luck and not adjusting to play in the second half quickly enough saw these evaporate. Very disappointing and I will not repeat what I said in the 94th minute - but you all know, anyway. Up the Saints! saintbobby
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Steve_N says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is,
MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back.
MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake.
MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters).
MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style.
posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff.
its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan.
because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone.

don't think I missed anything there.
could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen.
we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.
Top post. Yes it was very disappointing to lose having taken a 2 goal lead, but we are still learning (MP included) and it's a steep curve. I know it's been said before, but we are only in our second season back where we belong. Steady progress has got to be the way forward.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: so from what I can gather from reading these wonderfully insightful comments so far today is, MP will be off in the summer but that's ok because we will get adkins back. MP terrifies the players into making mistakes by taking a player off who made a mistake. MP has no `plan B` yet adkins will, despite the same comments being made about him (by the same posters). MP tries to change style/tactics in some games (plan B) it doesn't work and he gets hammered by the fans for not playing our usual style. posters know more about players fitness and injuries than MP the coaches and medical staff. its easy to just go out and find a `star` striker and another dejan. because he doesn't personally like he `Europa league` and thinks that we don't have the squad to compete in it and the league, its obvious that he is already gone. don't think I missed anything there. could it not just be that we were already struggling with injuries and because the ref allowed spuds to push, pull and kick their way through the game we suffered some more, which affected our game. yes our squad is light but that will have to be resolved in the summer, we all new that at the start of the season. we have three international class full backs three/four international class CM`s, three England attacking players, an international keeper CB and a midfielder who is captain of northern Ireland, and a whole bunch of kids who get called up at U21 and lower. 2-3 players will give us much better options next season with more players fighting for positions, SRL sais as much in a recent interview despite knowing that his position is one where we need to strengthen. we gave another `top` team a bloody nose yesterday and forced them to change how they played, with additions over the summer we will be able to stop these teams getting back into the game.[/p][/quote]Top post. Yes it was very disappointing to lose having taken a 2 goal lead, but we are still learning (MP included) and it's a steep curve. I know it's been said before, but we are only in our second season back where we belong. Steady progress has got to be the way forward. Steve_N
  • Score: 1

6:38pm Mon 24 Mar 14

el caballo santos101 says...

is the sunderland FA cup game going to be used as a stick to beat MP with every time we lose a game? it was over a month ago let it go!
MP tried the `plan B` that everyone moans we haven't got and it nearly worked. if SRL hadn't missed the sitter at the end we would have been looking at a draw, how did he miss it? perhaps instead of moaning at MP you should moan at the players. the team wasn't that weak, the majority of the players picked have started other games this season and we haven't beaten sunderland for 6 games, even with a `full team`. some seem to think that had we beaten them we would have won the cup and qualified for europe, it was only the 5th round. there is no way of knowing if we would have been drawn against hull or beaten them in the next round.
yes we had a good chance to progress in the cup but it didn't happen and to suggest that the manager owes the fans an apology for losing is just plain wrong. should he apologise for yesterdays game? or every game we lose? no being a fan/supporter isn't always easy but you know your not going to win every game no mater who plays. should the fans owe the team or MP an apology if they don't fill the stadium?
I`m as disappointed that we lost the game as everyone else and as I said some wont like to read this but I`m not trying to be a wind up or deliberately annoy people, no its just that I can see it as an attempt to try something else that didn't work (nearly though). sunderland didn't do anything apart from one wonder strike and we had the best chances, we just cant seem to beat them.
rant over, click all the thumbs down you like it wont change how I think as I suspect you wont change how you think!
is the sunderland FA cup game going to be used as a stick to beat MP with every time we lose a game? it was over a month ago let it go! MP tried the `plan B` that everyone moans we haven't got and it nearly worked. if SRL hadn't missed the sitter at the end we would have been looking at a draw, how did he miss it? perhaps instead of moaning at MP you should moan at the players. the team wasn't that weak, the majority of the players picked have started other games this season and we haven't beaten sunderland for 6 games, even with a `full team`. some seem to think that had we beaten them we would have won the cup and qualified for europe, it was only the 5th round. there is no way of knowing if we would have been drawn against hull or beaten them in the next round. yes we had a good chance to progress in the cup but it didn't happen and to suggest that the manager owes the fans an apology for losing is just plain wrong. should he apologise for yesterdays game? or every game we lose? no being a fan/supporter isn't always easy but you know your not going to win every game no mater who plays. should the fans owe the team or MP an apology if they don't fill the stadium? I`m as disappointed that we lost the game as everyone else and as I said some wont like to read this but I`m not trying to be a wind up or deliberately annoy people, no its just that I can see it as an attempt to try something else that didn't work (nearly though). sunderland didn't do anything apart from one wonder strike and we had the best chances, we just cant seem to beat them. rant over, click all the thumbs down you like it wont change how I think as I suspect you wont change how you think! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

6:42pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

6:42pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?
Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season? Rank Xerox
  • Score: -7

6:47pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?
I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do?
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?[/p][/quote]I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

6:55pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team? ghk230473
  • Score: 0

6:58pm Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then! warrens 76
  • Score: 4

7:01pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Rank Xerox says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?
I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do?
I would like to think that if Katerina gave him some money to bolster the existing squad in the summer he would want to stay on and build something special for seasons to come.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?[/p][/quote]I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do?[/p][/quote]I would like to think that if Katerina gave him some money to bolster the existing squad in the summer he would want to stay on and build something special for seasons to come. Rank Xerox
  • Score: 6

7:09pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rank Xerox wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Rank Xerox wrote:
Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?
I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do?
I would like to think that if Katerina gave him some money to bolster the existing squad in the summer he would want to stay on and build something special for seasons to come.
That's what I want to hear too.
[quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rank Xerox[/bold] wrote: Do you think MoPo would be interested in the Arsenal job should it become available the end of the season?[/p][/quote]I don't think he will be considering it, unless the money offered is too much to refuse. If you were in Poch shoes what would you do?[/p][/quote]I would like to think that if Katerina gave him some money to bolster the existing squad in the summer he would want to stay on and build something special for seasons to come.[/p][/quote]That's what I want to hear too. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

7:13pm Mon 24 Mar 14

ghk230473 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric. ghk230473
  • Score: 1

7:32pm Mon 24 Mar 14

warrens 76 says...

ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
and madness…fan blöödy tactic..
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]and madness…fan blöödy tactic.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

7:39pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Baddesley Bill says...

ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved.

Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.
[quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved. Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

8:08pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Scarborosaint says...

Read some right rubbish on here since yesterday's result , suffered a couple of iffy refereeing decisions - non decisions , sloppy defending at times but saints excellent first half , second half think Spider-Man was missed in front of back 4 , louvren been excellent this season but wonder if 100 % following injury . MP tactics being questioned , what we need is for him to sign new contract , keep the players coveted by other clubs and add to the squad to increase competition in the squad. This is the best saints team since the Keegan Shilton era no doubt about it , great football , home grown talent , passion and commitment to each other , proud to wear my shirt here in Yorkshire . We have punched above our weight this season . Red and white stripes again next season though please.
Read some right rubbish on here since yesterday's result , suffered a couple of iffy refereeing decisions - non decisions , sloppy defending at times but saints excellent first half , second half think Spider-Man was missed in front of back 4 , louvren been excellent this season but wonder if 100 % following injury . MP tactics being questioned , what we need is for him to sign new contract , keep the players coveted by other clubs and add to the squad to increase competition in the squad. This is the best saints team since the Keegan Shilton era no doubt about it , great football , home grown talent , passion and commitment to each other , proud to wear my shirt here in Yorkshire . We have punched above our weight this season . Red and white stripes again next season though please. Scarborosaint
  • Score: 7

8:19pm Mon 24 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved.

Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.
Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved. Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.[/p][/quote]Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale? OSPREYSAINT
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9:14pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
lol
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]lol Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

10:15pm Mon 24 Mar 14

FindAndDestroy says...

Don't take Clyne out......keep the winning team in place when they are all fit and well .......

Lovren, Fonte , Shaw, Clyne plus our defensive shields Morgan and Wanyama... This is the combination that made us reach 3rd spot and were the best defence in the PL and second best in Europe at the begining of the season....

when two or more of these 6 are missing the defence licks.....
Don't take Clyne out......keep the winning team in place when they are all fit and well ....... Lovren, Fonte , Shaw, Clyne plus our defensive shields Morgan and Wanyama... This is the combination that made us reach 3rd spot and were the best defence in the PL and second best in Europe at the begining of the season.... when two or more of these 6 are missing the defence licks..... FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 2

10:29pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :)

You were right about 'less need' though.

(Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.)

See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :) You were right about 'less need' though. (Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.) See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

11:03pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Baddesley Bill says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :)

You were right about 'less need' though.

(Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.)

See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer.
More....now that's a word....especially if we score more goals that the mancs and they score less/fewer than us! COYR
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :) You were right about 'less need' though. (Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.) See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer.[/p][/quote]More....now that's a word....especially if we score more goals that the mancs and they score less/fewer than us! COYR Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 0

11:06pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end
With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games
As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL
The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League
If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.
Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :)

You were right about 'less need' though.

(Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.)

See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer.
More....now that's a word....especially if we score more goals that the mancs and they score less/fewer than us! COYR
Much more beer and many more goals it is then, Bill. Don't forget Slugger's wallet.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: To challenge for honours or a top position in the EPL you need to have a squad of players who hit the peak of fitness around Christmas and are the able to sustain it through to the seasons end With the MoPo high energy syle, and all the additional traing sessions it requires, we are always going to go flat on the last 10 or so games. Especially in the later stages of those games As excitng and enjoyable as this season has been at times this system will never get us into the CL and will reduce our chances of getting int EL The reason English clubs don't want the EL is because the size of squad required is huge but remember that under 21's do not count as part of a 25 man squad With our young talent an ambitous manager would take every opportunity to progress to the next level includin the Europa League[/p][/quote]If the Europa League returned to a knock out competition (rather than a CL losers competition), I'm sure it would get its credibility back. Also, with less games it would require less need for squad rotation....and, quite frankly be more exciting to watch.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, Bill, even if you should have written 'fewer games' :) You were right about 'less need' though. (Just thought I'd get in there ahead of Ospers, who, btw, needs to learn to use the possessive apostrophe.) See you in Manchester, then, were we'll drink fewer cups of tea than pints of ale and less wine than beer.[/p][/quote]More....now that's a word....especially if we score more goals that the mancs and they score less/fewer than us! COYR[/p][/quote]Much more beer and many more goals it is then, Bill. Don't forget Slugger's wallet. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

12:08am Tue 25 Mar 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved.

Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.
Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?
Now there's an optimist.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved. Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.[/p][/quote]Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?[/p][/quote]Now there's an optimist. DisplacedFan
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8:56am Tue 25 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved.

Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.
Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?
Now there's an optimist.
Just saying, I don't actually care one way or the other.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved. Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.[/p][/quote]Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?[/p][/quote]Now there's an optimist.[/p][/quote]Just saying, I don't actually care one way or the other. OSPREYSAINT
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10:06pm Tue 25 Mar 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Cheer up lads, it could be worse:

'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.'

A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.
Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?
They are definitely down then!
It would be unbelievable!
Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.
Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved.

Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.
Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?
Didn't happen 3 0 Rochdale, turned out nice again?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ghk230473[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Cheer up lads, it could be worse: 'Pompey can smell the foul stench of Football League relegation breathing on the face, while its claws are slowly tightening around the neck.' A wonderful piece of journalism from the News.[/p][/quote]Even if Pompey finish bottom can the be relegated? I thought it depends on the facilities of ground of the promoting team?[/p][/quote]They are definitely down then![/p][/quote]It would be unbelievable! Saying that I do miss our derbies, atmosphere pure electric.[/p][/quote]Personally, I think our slippery neighbours will manage to avoid the big drop....just. If karma is real though...they will be relegated out of the English Football League altogether. As a so-called "professional" club....it will be well deserved. Either way...it will be several decades before we experience another south coast Saints v Skates derby of any consequence.[/p][/quote]Looking at the table it would only take a couple of results to see them back mid-table, starting at Rochdale?[/p][/quote]Didn't happen 3 0 Rochdale, turned out nice again? OSPREYSAINT
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