Saints talisman Adam Lallana linked with £70,000 a week move to Liverpool

Daily Echo: Adam Lallana Adam Lallana

ADAM Lallana is being linked with a summer move to Liverpool which could see his £35,000 a week wages doubled.

The Saints talisman - favourite to lift the Daily Echo’s Player of the Season award for the first time – is currently being talked about as a potential target for Manchester United and Tottenham.

But a report in a national newspaper today claims Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is lining up an opening bid of arounf £15m.

Rodgers sees Lallana - who came through the Saints academy, making his debut in the 2006/07 season – as capable of playing in the hole behind Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge.

Lallana, contracted to Saints until 2018, did little to stop the speculation surrounding him when he gave a television interview after the 2-0 win against Everton last Saturday.

When asked about his future, Lallana said: “I just want to concentrate on the last two games of the season and then we'll sit down in the summer and see what happens.

“I just want to enjoy my football, that's when I'm at my happiest - when I'm playing well.

“Playing in a great youthful team like this, I feel like one of the experienced players nowadays.”

Saints boss Mauricio Pochettino was asked about Lallana’s comments but said: “I don’t really think it’s the right moment right now to be talking about the future.“We have just won a game 2-0 and we should be talking about that.”

The same national newspaper report – in the same paper which last January was central in promoting Nicola Cortese’s side of his split from Saints, making derogatory comments about Katharina Liebherr in the process – maintains that Saints left back Luke Shaw will move to Manchester United this summer.

That is despite prospective United manager Louis van Gaal being linked with his current Dutch international left back Daley Blind.

Saints defender Dejan Lovren is also being linked with Liverpool again.

The Croatian has been one of the best signings of the 2013/14 Premier League campaign, and is set to play for his country in this summer’s World Cup.

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8:06am Tue 29 Apr 14

frenchvic says...

Fed up with all this now.
Fed up with all this now. frenchvic
  • Score: 89

8:09am Tue 29 Apr 14

SiamSaint says...

Amazing headline ECHO! Surely Lall's worth more thant 70 grand. Oh... that's the salary... Really hoep he doesn't go but I do think he'd be e revelation at Liverpool. Bah. Wish the directors would sign MoPo to a new contract. That at least would give us some stability. Everyone keeps saying "wait till the summer", but why? If we want him, let's keep him.
Amazing headline ECHO! Surely Lall's worth more thant 70 grand. Oh... that's the salary... Really hoep he doesn't go but I do think he'd be e revelation at Liverpool. Bah. Wish the directors would sign MoPo to a new contract. That at least would give us some stability. Everyone keeps saying "wait till the summer", but why? If we want him, let's keep him. SiamSaint
  • Score: 26

8:09am Tue 29 Apr 14

AdamG10 says...

Boring! Here we go again. What about Jack Corks interview with Radio Solent stating everyone wants to stay?? I don't recall reading an article about that DE! Change the record please!
Boring! Here we go again. What about Jack Corks interview with Radio Solent stating everyone wants to stay?? I don't recall reading an article about that DE! Change the record please! AdamG10
  • Score: 81

8:13am Tue 29 Apr 14

Micle1974 says...

£15 million???? hes got to be worth more than that!!!
£15 million???? hes got to be worth more than that!!! Micle1974
  • Score: 62

8:17am Tue 29 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Non-news
Non-news Jan28th1984
  • Score: 35

8:24am Tue 29 Apr 14

Littleton-Saint says...

I think Adam would prefer to stay with us; I wouldn't blame him for trying to hike up his salary by playing his England and other-club-interest cards, and particularly when the erratic Gaston is on allegedly £considerably more per week, but there'll be talks, more pay and he'll stay, provided that he doesn't embarrass the Board too much. Also,15k would appear to be only half Adam's market value. Liverpool is deluded if it thinks that it can tempt Saints with that figure.
We do not need to sell anyone, so if sales happen, they'll happen at full market value or not at all.

Ironically, Fonte appeared to be demanding ambition from the Board in the summer; this may well mean Fonte being demoted to the bench, if we're considering improving the squad!
I think Adam would prefer to stay with us; I wouldn't blame him for trying to hike up his salary by playing his England and other-club-interest cards, and particularly when the erratic Gaston is on allegedly £considerably more per week, but there'll be talks, more pay and he'll stay, provided that he doesn't embarrass the Board too much. Also,15k would appear to be only half Adam's market value. Liverpool is deluded if it thinks that it can tempt Saints with that figure. We do not need to sell anyone, so if sales happen, they'll happen at full market value or not at all. Ironically, Fonte appeared to be demanding ambition from the Board in the summer; this may well mean Fonte being demoted to the bench, if we're considering improving the squad! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 22

8:27am Tue 29 Apr 14

richard903 says...

I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints richard903
  • Score: 36

8:27am Tue 29 Apr 14

BracknellSaint says...

So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez... BracknellSaint
  • Score: 53

8:28am Tue 29 Apr 14

saint christopher says...

Club has clearly stated that there are no plans and no need to sell any players. Players and manager have also indicated at different times their desire to be part of Saints future. Also easy to say newspapers are just jumping on the same rumour wagon that now surrounds our club and it's only to be expected now that we've suddeny become hot football news through our football, progress and developing stars.

But at the end of the day manager and player are normal people with a natural desire to secure their financial futures when opportunties arise. I don't think many of us would refuse the offer of 2 or 3 times our salary and the prospect of instant promotion on the basis of "committment" to or current employer.

MoPo is clearly prepared to commit himself to Saints but can only do so when the future intentions and committment of the new board become clearer. Players like Shaw and Lallana will only commit themselves when they know what MoPo is doing (and how seriously the board are prepared to want to keep them - which at the end of the day is shown in their wage packets).

As fans we view the whole situation from an emotional standpoint but those involved will ultimately make decisions based upon money and the likelihood or otherwise of future success if they stay, and that is totally their perogative and we will have no right to criticise them for it.

More than anything else I think it's the new board who, over the next month, will determine our trajectory as a club by the decisions and promises they make - whether we continue to climb (led by MoPo and most of our current stars) or settle for future mid-table obscurity. And this once agan will be dictated ultimately by what money they are prepared to put in at this crucil stage of our development.

Between now and the World Cup will be a VERY interesting time!
Club has clearly stated that there are no plans and no need to sell any players. Players and manager have also indicated at different times their desire to be part of Saints future. Also easy to say newspapers are just jumping on the same rumour wagon that now surrounds our club and it's only to be expected now that we've suddeny become hot football news through our football, progress and developing stars. But at the end of the day manager and player are normal people with a natural desire to secure their financial futures when opportunties arise. I don't think many of us would refuse the offer of 2 or 3 times our salary and the prospect of instant promotion on the basis of "committment" to or current employer. MoPo is clearly prepared to commit himself to Saints but can only do so when the future intentions and committment of the new board become clearer. Players like Shaw and Lallana will only commit themselves when they know what MoPo is doing (and how seriously the board are prepared to want to keep them - which at the end of the day is shown in their wage packets). As fans we view the whole situation from an emotional standpoint but those involved will ultimately make decisions based upon money and the likelihood or otherwise of future success if they stay, and that is totally their perogative and we will have no right to criticise them for it. More than anything else I think it's the new board who, over the next month, will determine our trajectory as a club by the decisions and promises they make - whether we continue to climb (led by MoPo and most of our current stars) or settle for future mid-table obscurity. And this once agan will be dictated ultimately by what money they are prepared to put in at this crucil stage of our development. Between now and the World Cup will be a VERY interesting time! saint christopher
  • Score: 23

8:31am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

I seem to remember people saying he was an Everton supporter. Maybe the newspaper behind is getting confused about which Liverpool team he is 'inevitably' going to join. Or, maybe, they're just making it all up.
I seem to remember people saying he was an Everton supporter. Maybe the newspaper behind is getting confused about which Liverpool team he is 'inevitably' going to join. Or, maybe, they're just making it all up. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

8:49am Tue 29 Apr 14

Dave Juson says...

With such a talented bunch of players I think we all have to face up to reality, lazy journalists are going to elaborate on highly speculative transfer rumours until the player concerned – be it Adam Lallana or Luke Shaw or Morgan Schnieiderlin, or any of the rest of the squad – actually goes. Hopefully this story will be running well into the 2020s.
With such a talented bunch of players I think we all have to face up to reality, lazy journalists are going to elaborate on highly speculative transfer rumours until the player concerned – be it Adam Lallana or Luke Shaw or Morgan Schnieiderlin, or any of the rest of the squad – actually goes. Hopefully this story will be running well into the 2020s. Dave Juson
  • Score: 13

8:54am Tue 29 Apr 14

Brian1 says...

In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ?
If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday !
In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ? If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday ! Brian1
  • Score: 12

8:57am Tue 29 Apr 14

White and red till dead says...

saint christopher wrote:
Club has clearly stated that there are no plans and no need to sell any players. Players and manager have also indicated at different times their desire to be part of Saints future. Also easy to say newspapers are just jumping on the same rumour wagon that now surrounds our club and it's only to be expected now that we've suddeny become hot football news through our football, progress and developing stars.

But at the end of the day manager and player are normal people with a natural desire to secure their financial futures when opportunties arise. I don't think many of us would refuse the offer of 2 or 3 times our salary and the prospect of instant promotion on the basis of "committment" to or current employer.

MoPo is clearly prepared to commit himself to Saints but can only do so when the future intentions and committment of the new board become clearer. Players like Shaw and Lallana will only commit themselves when they know what MoPo is doing (and how seriously the board are prepared to want to keep them - which at the end of the day is shown in their wage packets).

As fans we view the whole situation from an emotional standpoint but those involved will ultimately make decisions based upon money and the likelihood or otherwise of future success if they stay, and that is totally their perogative and we will have no right to criticise them for it.

More than anything else I think it's the new board who, over the next month, will determine our trajectory as a club by the decisions and promises they make - whether we continue to climb (led by MoPo and most of our current stars) or settle for future mid-table obscurity. And this once agan will be dictated ultimately by what money they are prepared to put in at this crucil stage of our development.

Between now and the World Cup will be a VERY interesting time!
Adam and Luke will likely see how their World Cup campaign goes - the better they do there, the better negotiating position they will be in. Hence the "wait till summer" line. That's when we'll see how ambitious the board is.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: Club has clearly stated that there are no plans and no need to sell any players. Players and manager have also indicated at different times their desire to be part of Saints future. Also easy to say newspapers are just jumping on the same rumour wagon that now surrounds our club and it's only to be expected now that we've suddeny become hot football news through our football, progress and developing stars. But at the end of the day manager and player are normal people with a natural desire to secure their financial futures when opportunties arise. I don't think many of us would refuse the offer of 2 or 3 times our salary and the prospect of instant promotion on the basis of "committment" to or current employer. MoPo is clearly prepared to commit himself to Saints but can only do so when the future intentions and committment of the new board become clearer. Players like Shaw and Lallana will only commit themselves when they know what MoPo is doing (and how seriously the board are prepared to want to keep them - which at the end of the day is shown in their wage packets). As fans we view the whole situation from an emotional standpoint but those involved will ultimately make decisions based upon money and the likelihood or otherwise of future success if they stay, and that is totally their perogative and we will have no right to criticise them for it. More than anything else I think it's the new board who, over the next month, will determine our trajectory as a club by the decisions and promises they make - whether we continue to climb (led by MoPo and most of our current stars) or settle for future mid-table obscurity. And this once agan will be dictated ultimately by what money they are prepared to put in at this crucil stage of our development. Between now and the World Cup will be a VERY interesting time![/p][/quote]Adam and Luke will likely see how their World Cup campaign goes - the better they do there, the better negotiating position they will be in. Hence the "wait till summer" line. That's when we'll see how ambitious the board is. White and red till dead
  • Score: 4

9:01am Tue 29 Apr 14

andoru says...

He's worth a bit more than 70k.
He's worth a bit more than 70k. andoru
  • Score: 3

9:05am Tue 29 Apr 14

miltonnroad76 says...

15 mill is an insult anyway how much did Fellini or whatever hes called cost man u then treble it.
15 mill is an insult anyway how much did Fellini or whatever hes called cost man u then treble it. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 16

9:13am Tue 29 Apr 14

Egomaniac says...

I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though. Egomaniac
  • Score: 5

9:15am Tue 29 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

£15million that's just for his big right toe, when is this rubbish going to stop? I agree with frenchvic everybody's fed up with the speculation, I would be very surprised if all the 1st Team Players and The Very Very Special One Mauricio and his Staff did not get a bonus for the successful season and an increase in Salary for next season.
I saw a recent clip on TV of Adam after he scored kissing the Saints badge on his shirt that doesn't indicate to all the Supporters he wants to leave it's the complete opposite.
It's not easy to ignore this speculation for avid readers of the News online or in the News Papers but we must all except there isn't a Team in the Premeirship that wouldn't want to buy the whole of the first Team, what we all want is these Agitators start picking on any of the other Teams and Clubs in the Premiership for a change, Players jumping ship may increase there Salary but are not guaranteed to winning Trophies and qualifying for Europe Man U for example, we must all be very patient from now until after this season has finished then hopefully many of these Agitator will be eating humble pie
£15million that's just for his big right toe, when is this rubbish going to stop? I agree with frenchvic everybody's fed up with the speculation, I would be very surprised if all the 1st Team Players and The Very Very Special One Mauricio and his Staff did not get a bonus for the successful season and an increase in Salary for next season. I saw a recent clip on TV of Adam after he scored kissing the Saints badge on his shirt that doesn't indicate to all the Supporters he wants to leave it's the complete opposite. It's not easy to ignore this speculation for avid readers of the News online or in the News Papers but we must all except there isn't a Team in the Premeirship that wouldn't want to buy the whole of the first Team, what we all want is these Agitators start picking on any of the other Teams and Clubs in the Premiership for a change, Players jumping ship may increase there Salary but are not guaranteed to winning Trophies and qualifying for Europe Man U for example, we must all be very patient from now until after this season has finished then hopefully many of these Agitator will be eating humble pie Malcombe
  • Score: 7

9:15am Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

As Les Reed has aready told us ,we have received no offers for any of our players. In case any of these so called big clubs havn't noticed Adam has just been voted into the premier league team of the season alongside players like Suarez ,Hazard etc. He is also an England international. If they are serious about trying to get one of the league's top players perhaps they should also consider making a serious offer. I would imagine the club directors and owner would be able to keep themselves amused all of next season laughing at such a totally derisory and insulting figure as £15 mil. That ranks alongside Swansea's offer of £3mil for Jack Cork . When and if the phone call comes in they should simply put the phone on the desk and go and get a cup of coffee and leave them talking to thin air.
As Les Reed has aready told us ,we have received no offers for any of our players. In case any of these so called big clubs havn't noticed Adam has just been voted into the premier league team of the season alongside players like Suarez ,Hazard etc. He is also an England international. If they are serious about trying to get one of the league's top players perhaps they should also consider making a serious offer. I would imagine the club directors and owner would be able to keep themselves amused all of next season laughing at such a totally derisory and insulting figure as £15 mil. That ranks alongside Swansea's offer of £3mil for Jack Cork . When and if the phone call comes in they should simply put the phone on the desk and go and get a cup of coffee and leave them talking to thin air. Clever Dick
  • Score: 14

9:19am Tue 29 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ....

Even the local paper is fanning the flames!

What was the point of Big Les making that statement? I feel like turning off the internet until August (when I expect ALL our players to still be here)
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... Even the local paper is fanning the flames! What was the point of Big Les making that statement? I feel like turning off the internet until August (when I expect ALL our players to still be here) Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 32

9:20am Tue 29 Apr 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Nothing in this DE anyway £15m? more like £50m especially after the World Cup.
All this media speculation is potentially damaging, so Les / Ralph can we have a categorical statement that 'NONE of our star players are for sale'
Add three good players to this squad and we will be Champions League Contenders next season.
Les, I think you and the Board are missing the point by 'waiting til the summer' because the World Cup will make it a very short summer for transfer dealings. The time for action is now, so get the manager sorted and line up the targets as soon as the window opens.
That would settle the players down.
Nothing in this DE anyway £15m? more like £50m especially after the World Cup. All this media speculation is potentially damaging, so Les / Ralph can we have a categorical statement that 'NONE of our star players are for sale' Add three good players to this squad and we will be Champions League Contenders next season. Les, I think you and the Board are missing the point by 'waiting til the summer' because the World Cup will make it a very short summer for transfer dealings. The time for action is now, so get the manager sorted and line up the targets as soon as the window opens. That would settle the players down. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 6

9:21am Tue 29 Apr 14

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

Still the Anti Saints Echo keeps rolling along, along!!
Still the Anti Saints Echo keeps rolling along, along!! CHARLIE TAYLOR
  • Score: 9

9:21am Tue 29 Apr 14

andoru says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
You've waited 65 to see Saints in the top four? You must have slept through the McMenemy era.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]You've waited 65 to see Saints in the top four? You must have slept through the McMenemy era. andoru
  • Score: 25

9:26am Tue 29 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
You are unless something exceptional happens.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]You are unless something exceptional happens. george chivers
  • Score: -5

9:34am Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on killared
  • Score: -22

9:39am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rickie&Adz14 says...

Brian1 wrote:
In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ?
If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday !
Nope - Stevie G and Henderson are central holding midfielders and Stirling is an out and out winger. It is Coutinho who plays in the hole...

Unfortunately Adam would be perfect for Liverpool given that Coutinho is really a winger like stirling.

The reality is, if Adam has to go somewhere then Liverpool is probably the one team I could just about tolerate him playing for...but please don't leave Adz!! You are well on your way to becoming Southampton's next Matt Le God!!
[quote][p][bold]Brian1[/bold] wrote: In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ? If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Nope - Stevie G and Henderson are central holding midfielders and Stirling is an out and out winger. It is Coutinho who plays in the hole... Unfortunately Adam would be perfect for Liverpool given that Coutinho is really a winger like stirling. The reality is, if Adam has to go somewhere then Liverpool is probably the one team I could just about tolerate him playing for...but please don't leave Adz!! You are well on your way to becoming Southampton's next Matt Le God!! Rickie&Adz14
  • Score: 4

9:44am Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

Brian1 wrote:
In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ?
If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday !
Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's
[quote][p][bold]Brian1[/bold] wrote: In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ? If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's killared
  • Score: -15

9:50am Tue 29 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

He was always going to leave. Sad but inevitable folks.
He was always going to leave. Sad but inevitable folks. redandy10
  • Score: -23

9:58am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rickie&Adz14 says...

killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
....when exactly was the last time a player went for "what they are worth"...

The point here my friend is that Southampton have money, we do not have much debt (comparatively speaking), we have no real requirement to sell and we continue to achieve on an exponential basis year in year out (I think that's fair given that this is the most successful Saints side in the history of the premier league)...so from that comes a position of power which allows us to defend extremely competitively in the transfer market when it comes to the sale of our young stars...hence forth (aka Everton with Wayne Rooney) we may sell one or two of our stars, but from now on (and I can ''almost'' guarantee this) we will hideously exploit the desperate and idiotic buying power of the so called ''giants of football'' who relentlessly depend on their ability to out bid from the more modest clubs!

So basically, "hell to the yes" I would love to keep hold of every one of our young players....but as always, if they have to go...isn't the prospect of being on the brighter side of exploitation in football somewhat of a consolation?
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]....when exactly was the last time a player went for "what they are worth"... The point here my friend is that Southampton have money, we do not have much debt (comparatively speaking), we have no real requirement to sell and we continue to achieve on an exponential basis year in year out (I think that's fair given that this is the most successful Saints side in the history of the premier league)...so from that comes a position of power which allows us to defend extremely competitively in the transfer market when it comes to the sale of our young stars...hence forth (aka Everton with Wayne Rooney) we may sell one or two of our stars, but from now on (and I can ''almost'' guarantee this) we will hideously exploit the desperate and idiotic buying power of the so called ''giants of football'' who relentlessly depend on their ability to out bid from the more modest clubs! So basically, "hell to the yes" I would love to keep hold of every one of our young players....but as always, if they have to go...isn't the prospect of being on the brighter side of exploitation in football somewhat of a consolation? Rickie&Adz14
  • Score: 9

9:58am Tue 29 Apr 14

Jesus_02 says...

killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
And this is why they wont leave. If clubs wanted to force us to sell they would have to pay well over there true value. I just dont see it happening.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]And this is why they wont leave. If clubs wanted to force us to sell they would have to pay well over there true value. I just dont see it happening. Jesus_02
  • Score: 8

10:00am Tue 29 Apr 14

boilerman says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
Didn't we finish second in the eighties?
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]Didn't we finish second in the eighties? boilerman
  • Score: 10

10:11am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rickie&Adz14 says...

boilerman wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
Didn't we finish second in the eighties?
Times have changed a lot since the formation of the premier league, and so now it is really the only gauge of success people are willing to acknowledge (baring past cup success of course)...
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]Didn't we finish second in the eighties?[/p][/quote]Times have changed a lot since the formation of the premier league, and so now it is really the only gauge of success people are willing to acknowledge (baring past cup success of course)... Rickie&Adz14
  • Score: 0

10:11am Tue 29 Apr 14

Jesus_02 says...

Personally I think Liverpool would try to avoid paying over the odds for a decent midfielder so I cant see a deal for Adam happening... unless they are forced to sell Suerez.

The top sides are so much to do with ego, and reputation. A good example is Man U. Moyes had to go, not for footballing reasons but because his presence was effecting the share price.

If Liverpool are forced to sell Suerez to Madrid then we might see them flex their muscles to compensate
Personally I think Liverpool would try to avoid paying over the odds for a decent midfielder so I cant see a deal for Adam happening... unless they are forced to sell Suerez. The top sides are so much to do with ego, and reputation. A good example is Man U. Moyes had to go, not for footballing reasons but because his presence was effecting the share price. If Liverpool are forced to sell Suerez to Madrid then we might see them flex their muscles to compensate Jesus_02
  • Score: 1

10:19am Tue 29 Apr 14

Egomaniac says...

andoru wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
You've waited 65 to see Saints in the top four? You must have slept through the McMenemy era.
Sorry Andoru - I was referring to the times since the Premiership was formed. Maybe i got that wrong too, can't be bothered to do the research I'm afraid!! Yes, I know, shame on me!
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]You've waited 65 to see Saints in the top four? You must have slept through the McMenemy era.[/p][/quote]Sorry Andoru - I was referring to the times since the Premiership was formed. Maybe i got that wrong too, can't be bothered to do the research I'm afraid!! Yes, I know, shame on me! Egomaniac
  • Score: -4

10:28am Tue 29 Apr 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Yeah come on this is boring now. We get it our players are really good and other clubs would like them! Fab well done. Well guess what Saints are a really good club and want other really good players in the summer too! Yep it's true. It's also true that Saints players love playing under MP and playing at Saints. Fact.

It is also true that Saints will only sell any players they want to sell. There is no need to sell any that we want to keep. End of story.

Why don't reporters report on the real facts that come out of Southampton rather than only reporting on complete fabrication.
Yeah come on this is boring now. We get it our players are really good and other clubs would like them! Fab well done. Well guess what Saints are a really good club and want other really good players in the summer too! Yep it's true. It's also true that Saints players love playing under MP and playing at Saints. Fact. It is also true that Saints will only sell any players they want to sell. There is no need to sell any that we want to keep. End of story. Why don't reporters report on the real facts that come out of Southampton rather than only reporting on complete fabrication. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 3

10:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

right can we sort this out, Liverpool like us don't play with wingers so saying Coutinho and Sterling are not going to play in the same position as lalla is just plain wrong. liverppol also have mosses and alberto as wingers but they rarely get to play as they don't fit the system. Liverpool also paid £15mill for Joe Allen a couple of years ago and he also sits in the hole.
if lalla was to move to Liverpool he would be up against some serious competition for places and would start half the games he would here, a commentator on a saints games asked if lalla was sure now to start in the world cup, the response was he would be if it wasn't for sterling!

just something else to note,
killared has some strange valuations on footballers and saints players in general. he has put a price of £5-£7mill on Osvaldo and called the saints team who valued him as £15mill idiots, well if juve want him (and theres nothing to say they wont) they have agreed to pay £15mill so they must be idiots too. £50mill for suarez? well there has been talk of him being the first £100mill player. does killared really think Liverpool would accept just £10mill more for a player than they turned down last season? especially after hes had a great season without, yet, any controversy. killared seems to thik he is right with his valuations and everyone else is wrong, what does that tell you. oh and he isn't a saints fan either, and before the negs have a go at me for bullying him, he has admitted to being an arsenil fan who takes an interest in saints because he lives near here. oh by the way killared do you really value lalla the same as Liverpool paid for joe allen 2 years ago?
right can we sort this out, Liverpool like us don't play with wingers so saying Coutinho and Sterling are not going to play in the same position as lalla is just plain wrong. liverppol also have mosses and alberto as wingers but they rarely get to play as they don't fit the system. Liverpool also paid £15mill for Joe Allen a couple of years ago and he also sits in the hole. if lalla was to move to Liverpool he would be up against some serious competition for places and would start half the games he would here, a commentator on a saints games asked if lalla was sure now to start in the world cup, the response was he would be if it wasn't for sterling! just something else to note, killared has some strange valuations on footballers and saints players in general. he has put a price of £5-£7mill on Osvaldo and called the saints team who valued him as £15mill idiots, well if juve want him (and theres nothing to say they wont) they have agreed to pay £15mill so they must be idiots too. £50mill for suarez? well there has been talk of him being the first £100mill player. does killared really think Liverpool would accept just £10mill more for a player than they turned down last season? especially after hes had a great season without, yet, any controversy. killared seems to thik he is right with his valuations and everyone else is wrong, what does that tell you. oh and he isn't a saints fan either, and before the negs have a go at me for bullying him, he has admitted to being an arsenil fan who takes an interest in saints because he lives near here. oh by the way killared do you really value lalla the same as Liverpool paid for joe allen 2 years ago? el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

10:45am Tue 29 Apr 14

st.athan saint says...

killared wrote:
Brian1 wrote:
In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ?
If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday !
Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's
I'd also like to see S & S at S Marys - playing against us. they are both poor and for me Agger is a much better player. Just remember J Rod skinning Skrtel time and again last season at SMS. He was truly appalling that day.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brian1[/bold] wrote: In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ? If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's[/p][/quote]I'd also like to see S & S at S Marys - playing against us. they are both poor and for me Agger is a much better player. Just remember J Rod skinning Skrtel time and again last season at SMS. He was truly appalling that day. st.athan saint
  • Score: 3

10:48am Tue 29 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

redandy10 if you cannot be positive and honest stay in your hole you are a perfect wind up merchant to all mankind
redandy10 if you cannot be positive and honest stay in your hole you are a perfect wind up merchant to all mankind Malcombe
  • Score: 3

11:03am Tue 29 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Malcombe wrote:
redandy10 if you cannot be positive and honest stay in your hole you are a perfect wind up merchant to all mankind
Saying for WEEKS what most people believed would happen is being a wind up merchant, is it?
I suggest you crawl back into your little hole MALCOMBE, or is it arfer. Whichever it is today you're looking slightly desperate, aren't you?
Now try to behave yourself and show some respect to other posters.
There's a good boy!
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: redandy10 if you cannot be positive and honest stay in your hole you are a perfect wind up merchant to all mankind[/p][/quote]Saying for WEEKS what most people believed would happen is being a wind up merchant, is it? I suggest you crawl back into your little hole MALCOMBE, or is it arfer. Whichever it is today you're looking slightly desperate, aren't you? Now try to behave yourself and show some respect to other posters. There's a good boy! redandy10
  • Score: -6

11:05am Tue 29 Apr 14

Confucious says...

Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys! Confucious
  • Score: 5

11:08am Tue 29 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

We have been hearing about the clubs chasing Adam and Luke for a long time, so while it will hurt to lose them it won't be unexpected. We MUST move heaven and earth to keep Dejan and Poch. If we can do that and find some good replacements for the lads, all will not be lost for next season.

Also another quality CB is needed, as well as a decent striker to replace Dani!
We have been hearing about the clubs chasing Adam and Luke for a long time, so while it will hurt to lose them it won't be unexpected. We MUST move heaven and earth to keep Dejan and Poch. If we can do that and find some good replacements for the lads, all will not be lost for next season. Also another quality CB is needed, as well as a decent striker to replace Dani! redandy10
  • Score: -6

11:12am Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
right can we sort this out, Liverpool like us don't play with wingers so saying Coutinho and Sterling are not going to play in the same position as lalla is just plain wrong. liverppol also have mosses and alberto as wingers but they rarely get to play as they don't fit the system. Liverpool also paid £15mill for Joe Allen a couple of years ago and he also sits in the hole.
if lalla was to move to Liverpool he would be up against some serious competition for places and would start half the games he would here, a commentator on a saints games asked if lalla was sure now to start in the world cup, the response was he would be if it wasn't for sterling!

just something else to note,
killared has some strange valuations on footballers and saints players in general. he has put a price of £5-£7mill on Osvaldo and called the saints team who valued him as £15mill idiots, well if juve want him (and theres nothing to say they wont) they have agreed to pay £15mill so they must be idiots too. £50mill for suarez? well there has been talk of him being the first £100mill player. does killared really think Liverpool would accept just £10mill more for a player than they turned down last season? especially after hes had a great season without, yet, any controversy. killared seems to thik he is right with his valuations and everyone else is wrong, what does that tell you. oh and he isn't a saints fan either, and before the negs have a go at me for bullying him, he has admitted to being an arsenil fan who takes an interest in saints because he lives near here. oh by the way killared do you really value lalla the same as Liverpool paid for joe allen 2 years ago?
When did I say I was an Arsenal Fans I live in Chandlers Ford so I support my local club which is Southampton, Yes I love watch a team who does the Tiki Taka like Barca, Bayern and Arsenal doesn't mean I support them and yes and It is my opinion the man who price up Osvaldo for 15 million or 19 million at Saints is an Idiot because we all know Osvaldo is not made for the EPL and has so many issues ! Osvaldo might not make the world cup this year as Gabbiadini, Rossi, Cerci, Destro, Insigne, Immobile and Balotelli are all playing for their club and scoring at the moment and he doesn't so Saints must be prepare to take a massive loss or have Osvaldo back and we don't want that. Also I have never said that everybody was wrong with the valuation but optimistic. 15 million for Lallana I think is the correct value of Adam + Add on it could be more. Now for Luke Shaw it is a difficult one ! The papers value Lallana 15 million and I think it's fair. You can say what you want about me it doesn't touch me we are all here to support the Saints, we all have opinion if you can't stand the eat you know what to do !
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: right can we sort this out, Liverpool like us don't play with wingers so saying Coutinho and Sterling are not going to play in the same position as lalla is just plain wrong. liverppol also have mosses and alberto as wingers but they rarely get to play as they don't fit the system. Liverpool also paid £15mill for Joe Allen a couple of years ago and he also sits in the hole. if lalla was to move to Liverpool he would be up against some serious competition for places and would start half the games he would here, a commentator on a saints games asked if lalla was sure now to start in the world cup, the response was he would be if it wasn't for sterling! just something else to note, killared has some strange valuations on footballers and saints players in general. he has put a price of £5-£7mill on Osvaldo and called the saints team who valued him as £15mill idiots, well if juve want him (and theres nothing to say they wont) they have agreed to pay £15mill so they must be idiots too. £50mill for suarez? well there has been talk of him being the first £100mill player. does killared really think Liverpool would accept just £10mill more for a player than they turned down last season? especially after hes had a great season without, yet, any controversy. killared seems to thik he is right with his valuations and everyone else is wrong, what does that tell you. oh and he isn't a saints fan either, and before the negs have a go at me for bullying him, he has admitted to being an arsenil fan who takes an interest in saints because he lives near here. oh by the way killared do you really value lalla the same as Liverpool paid for joe allen 2 years ago?[/p][/quote]When did I say I was an Arsenal Fans I live in Chandlers Ford so I support my local club which is Southampton, Yes I love watch a team who does the Tiki Taka like Barca, Bayern and Arsenal doesn't mean I support them and yes and It is my opinion the man who price up Osvaldo for 15 million or 19 million at Saints is an Idiot because we all know Osvaldo is not made for the EPL and has so many issues ! Osvaldo might not make the world cup this year as Gabbiadini, Rossi, Cerci, Destro, Insigne, Immobile and Balotelli are all playing for their club and scoring at the moment and he doesn't so Saints must be prepare to take a massive loss or have Osvaldo back and we don't want that. Also I have never said that everybody was wrong with the valuation but optimistic. 15 million for Lallana I think is the correct value of Adam + Add on it could be more. Now for Luke Shaw it is a difficult one ! The papers value Lallana 15 million and I think it's fair. You can say what you want about me it doesn't touch me we are all here to support the Saints, we all have opinion if you can't stand the eat you know what to do ! killared
  • Score: -11

11:20am Tue 29 Apr 14

saint gee says...

miltonnroad76 wrote:
15 mill is an insult anyway how much did Fellini or whatever hes called cost man u then treble it.
I think his actual value would be more like 50 mil,15 mil might get them guly.
[quote][p][bold]miltonnroad76[/bold] wrote: 15 mill is an insult anyway how much did Fellini or whatever hes called cost man u then treble it.[/p][/quote]I think his actual value would be more like 50 mil,15 mil might get them guly. saint gee
  • Score: 3

11:22am Tue 29 Apr 14

tricky19791 says...

Really!!!! This is getting beyond a joke now. £15m deal at £70,000 a week! A bit cheap if you ask me. More like £40m at £100,000 a week , not forgetting Bournemouths cut of 25%. That's a bit more realistic. Don't you think Daily Echo?
Really!!!! This is getting beyond a joke now. £15m deal at £70,000 a week! A bit cheap if you ask me. More like £40m at £100,000 a week , not forgetting Bournemouths cut of 25%. That's a bit more realistic. Don't you think Daily Echo? tricky19791
  • Score: 0

11:26am Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system.
p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

11:26am Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

My ST has been ordered, irrespective of what happens in the Summer I will, God willing, be at the turnstyle for the first home match. I will follow the comings and goings, but it won't change my resolve to follow Southampton FC. Ready for the next journey on the Roller Coaster that is SFC. Anyone coming along for the ride?
My ST has been ordered, irrespective of what happens in the Summer I will, God willing, be at the turnstyle for the first home match. I will follow the comings and goings, but it won't change my resolve to follow Southampton FC. Ready for the next journey on the Roller Coaster that is SFC. Anyone coming along for the ride? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 18

11:27am Tue 29 Apr 14

saint gee says...

killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack. saint gee
  • Score: 0

11:28am Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Personally I think Liverpool would try to avoid paying over the odds for a decent midfielder so I cant see a deal for Adam happening... unless they are forced to sell Suerez.

The top sides are so much to do with ego, and reputation. A good example is Man U. Moyes had to go, not for footballing reasons but because his presence was effecting the share price.

If Liverpool are forced to sell Suerez to Madrid then we might see them flex their muscles to compensate
Liverpool have already proven that they won't be forced to sell Suarez. They even refused to budge when Arse bid the amount that was supposed to trigger the sale. We can keep Adam by doing the same. He's signed a contract and he is bound by it. However if Liverpool should decide to sell for silly money it will make them much less of an attraction as without Suarez they would be fighting with us for seventh place. Adam on the other hand has stated that he is happiest when playing regularly. He doesn't really need to be getting in to a scrap with the club which after all has made him what he is today
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Personally I think Liverpool would try to avoid paying over the odds for a decent midfielder so I cant see a deal for Adam happening... unless they are forced to sell Suerez. The top sides are so much to do with ego, and reputation. A good example is Man U. Moyes had to go, not for footballing reasons but because his presence was effecting the share price. If Liverpool are forced to sell Suerez to Madrid then we might see them flex their muscles to compensate[/p][/quote]Liverpool have already proven that they won't be forced to sell Suarez. They even refused to budge when Arse bid the amount that was supposed to trigger the sale. We can keep Adam by doing the same. He's signed a contract and he is bound by it. However if Liverpool should decide to sell for silly money it will make them much less of an attraction as without Suarez they would be fighting with us for seventh place. Adam on the other hand has stated that he is happiest when playing regularly. He doesn't really need to be getting in to a scrap with the club which after all has made him what he is today Clever Dick
  • Score: 5

11:29am Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
[quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ! killared
  • Score: -7

11:30am Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system.
p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest!
Big Sam is already on someones shopping list, the only one that hasn't been mentioned is Guly, you will have to be nice to him, if he is the only one left.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest![/p][/quote]Big Sam is already on someones shopping list, the only one that hasn't been mentioned is Guly, you will have to be nice to him, if he is the only one left. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:35am Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

11:36am Tue 29 Apr 14

richard903 says...

richard903 wrote:
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
sorry wrong player, its sterling who plays in the same position, so will Adam be his appretice? Adam stated on saturday the only thing that interests him is enjoying his football. He then said how much he enjoys playing with his saints team mates. The journalist at the mirror has no idea about football he should be transfered to politics where lies are standard writing
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints[/p][/quote]sorry wrong player, its sterling who plays in the same position, so will Adam be his appretice? Adam stated on saturday the only thing that interests him is enjoying his football. He then said how much he enjoys playing with his saints team mates. The journalist at the mirror has no idea about football he should be transfered to politics where lies are standard writing richard903
  • Score: 1

11:37am Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Any one splashing big money on a Player with a record of a known heart condition would taking a big gamble would they not?
Any one splashing big money on a Player with a record of a known heart condition would taking a big gamble would they not? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

11:39am Tue 29 Apr 14

itsnotjustice says...

i really hope he wont leave and cant see any real reason why he would want to go..... but i feel saints should offer him more than 35k a week... im not saying go crazy and offer 100k or anything close... but as one of the best players, and captain, if we want to make sure he stays then we should pay him a little bit more.....
i really hope he wont leave and cant see any real reason why he would want to go..... but i feel saints should offer him more than 35k a week... im not saying go crazy and offer 100k or anything close... but as one of the best players, and captain, if we want to make sure he stays then we should pay him a little bit more..... itsnotjustice
  • Score: 3

11:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

saint gee says...

killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth? saint gee
  • Score: 0

11:43am Tue 29 Apr 14

Confucious says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system.
p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest!
I think it was Osvaldo what did it.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest![/p][/quote]I think it was Osvaldo what did it. Confucious
  • Score: 0

11:54am Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
[quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain killared
  • Score: -1

11:57am Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?
Basically it means that we will have to wait until they sit down in the Summer and see what happens. Whatever that means.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?[/p][/quote]Basically it means that we will have to wait until they sit down in the Summer and see what happens. Whatever that means. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

11:57am Tue 29 Apr 14

Confucious says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?
Essentially it's based on the supposition that time doesn't have an independent existence and is only seen in the relative motion of various objects eg sun, seasons, players movements in transfer markets etc. Furthermore this refers specifically to the future and not to the past or the here and now. It can be complicated however as a result of being slowed by gravity and consequent lack of simultaneity.

If this still isn't clear I would refer you to the Lorenz equations.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?[/p][/quote]Essentially it's based on the supposition that time doesn't have an independent existence and is only seen in the relative motion of various objects eg sun, seasons, players movements in transfer markets etc. Furthermore this refers specifically to the future and not to the past or the here and now. It can be complicated however as a result of being slowed by gravity and consequent lack of simultaneity. If this still isn't clear I would refer you to the Lorenz equations. Confucious
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

I just hope the board hang on to the players at the moment as we are 2 or 3 players away from top 5 or 4 and It is crucial for the team
I just hope the board hang on to the players at the moment as we are 2 or 3 players away from top 5 or 4 and It is crucial for the team killared
  • Score: 0

12:03pm Tue 29 Apr 14

StElsass says...

So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?
So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it? StElsass
  • Score: 1

12:09pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

Confucious wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?
Essentially it's based on the supposition that time doesn't have an independent existence and is only seen in the relative motion of various objects eg sun, seasons, players movements in transfer markets etc. Furthermore this refers specifically to the future and not to the past or the here and now. It can be complicated however as a result of being slowed by gravity and consequent lack of simultaneity.

If this still isn't clear I would refer you to the Lorenz equations.
Unfortunately, the Lorenz equations are deterministic and leave nothing to chance. So, ultimately, at the end of the day, what you're saying is that what happens is what happens. Oi, oi, oi. I can't wait.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]A lot of people at Saints seem to be saying they'll wait until summer and see what happens (or something like that). What does it mean?[/p][/quote]Essentially it's based on the supposition that time doesn't have an independent existence and is only seen in the relative motion of various objects eg sun, seasons, players movements in transfer markets etc. Furthermore this refers specifically to the future and not to the past or the here and now. It can be complicated however as a result of being slowed by gravity and consequent lack of simultaneity. If this still isn't clear I would refer you to the Lorenz equations.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, the Lorenz equations are deterministic and leave nothing to chance. So, ultimately, at the end of the day, what you're saying is that what happens is what happens. Oi, oi, oi. I can't wait. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

12:10pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

StElsass wrote:
So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?
In Britain, it is merely a possibility.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?[/p][/quote]In Britain, it is merely a possibility. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

StElsass wrote:
So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?
When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?[/p][/quote]When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations.

you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me.
I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain[/p][/quote]so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations. you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me. I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill. el caballo santos101
  • Score: -3

12:30pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
StElsass wrote:
So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?
When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer.
Probably it would be quicker by train, but wow wouldn't that be something. Can you imagine, Southampton Water parting and a path leading to Merseyside is revealed. Probably end the same way as King Canute's little adventure though.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?[/p][/quote]When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer.[/p][/quote]Probably it would be quicker by train, but wow wouldn't that be something. Can you imagine, Southampton Water parting and a path leading to Merseyside is revealed. Probably end the same way as King Canute's little adventure though. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

12:32pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Mosin85 says...

killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
Saurez is worth more in the region of 80 - 100 mill dont know why you think one of the worlds best players is worth as little as 30 million when donkey Carrol is worth 30 million. Lallana should go for no less than 30 million, Shaw is only 18 and is already considered one of the best left backs in the league. so Shaw should be worth atleast 25 - 30 milllion for a player who to be honest is going to play for the next 15 years? that'll leave him at 33 years old. i personaly think its a bargain. Alves is a right back so comparing him to Shaw is wrong. Alaba is worth 60 million well that is the price BM have on his head, considering he is rated as the current best left back in the world. Shaw all though young should be worth atleast half of Alaba considering Shaw is tipped to be the BEST left back / Left midfielder in the world. think about it, who would you replace Shaw with? i spend a lot of time looking comparing reading stats on players, and i cant think of any one but Alaba who could fill Shaws boots and that says alot about his current ability and his potential. Lallana well loook at how we play, he has the Saints team built around him which is why he shines out so much. if they leave they leave thats 60 million to get new players with, heck why not sell Morgan for 25 million too and chambers for 15 million and then spend the 100 million on a new sqaud.............. but then we will have to change the playing style of the team as we wont have Lallana which is a bad bad thing considering the style we play is played through the ranks at Saints eg reservers and youth set ups.. so it'll be better to keep what we have and add a couple of players one being a striker and push futher up the table? Shaw and Lallana have said they are happy and i cant see them handing in a transfer request so no need to sell, better to go forward together than selll off players and watch others slowly follow them out the door........ this team has been together for a long time be sad for the club if they all start to leave at a time when great great things can happen to Saints. two ways this can go, keep them push on and become a big club in the league or sell them and continue down the old path of selling off are best assests and fighting for relegation? cause that is what will happen as players will see the club as a stepping stone to get to bigger clubs and that is a trend we dont want to set on the younger players currently in the youth set up, we should keep them and make a moto and make Saints a family where every player loves to be here and wants to win things at saints. just hope the board want the same thing. if money motivates the players well they will be rewarded in time as the more the team pushes up the table and in time get into top 4 then we will be able to hand them the same wages they will get at bigger clubs, no club is a big club unless action is taken to make the club big, Man united are a big club cause they are UNITED as a team if they where not united then they would not be a big club. same applys for every team.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]Saurez is worth more in the region of 80 - 100 mill dont know why you think one of the worlds best players is worth as little as 30 million when donkey Carrol is worth 30 million. Lallana should go for no less than 30 million, Shaw is only 18 and is already considered one of the best left backs in the league. so Shaw should be worth atleast 25 - 30 milllion for a player who to be honest is going to play for the next 15 years? that'll leave him at 33 years old. i personaly think its a bargain. Alves is a right back so comparing him to Shaw is wrong. Alaba is worth 60 million well that is the price BM have on his head, considering he is rated as the current best left back in the world. Shaw all though young should be worth atleast half of Alaba considering Shaw is tipped to be the BEST left back / Left midfielder in the world. think about it, who would you replace Shaw with? i spend a lot of time looking comparing reading stats on players, and i cant think of any one but Alaba who could fill Shaws boots and that says alot about his current ability and his potential. Lallana well loook at how we play, he has the Saints team built around him which is why he shines out so much. if they leave they leave thats 60 million to get new players with, heck why not sell Morgan for 25 million too and chambers for 15 million and then spend the 100 million on a new sqaud.............. but then we will have to change the playing style of the team as we wont have Lallana which is a bad bad thing considering the style we play is played through the ranks at Saints eg reservers and youth set ups.. so it'll be better to keep what we have and add a couple of players one being a striker and push futher up the table? Shaw and Lallana have said they are happy and i cant see them handing in a transfer request so no need to sell, better to go forward together than selll off players and watch others slowly follow them out the door........ this team has been together for a long time be sad for the club if they all start to leave at a time when great great things can happen to Saints. two ways this can go, keep them push on and become a big club in the league or sell them and continue down the old path of selling off are best assests and fighting for relegation? cause that is what will happen as players will see the club as a stepping stone to get to bigger clubs and that is a trend we dont want to set on the younger players currently in the youth set up, we should keep them and make a moto and make Saints a family where every player loves to be here and wants to win things at saints. just hope the board want the same thing. if money motivates the players well they will be rewarded in time as the more the team pushes up the table and in time get into top 4 then we will be able to hand them the same wages they will get at bigger clubs, no club is a big club unless action is taken to make the club big, Man united are a big club cause they are UNITED as a team if they where not united then they would not be a big club. same applys for every team. Mosin85
  • Score: 2

12:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

StElsass says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
StElsass wrote:
So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?
When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer.
I thought The Daily Mirror/Mail and The Sun were making that decision? They seem to be in charge of making up every other bit of news.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: So this summer everybody keeps talking about, when is it?[/p][/quote]When the Transfer Window opens and you see a new Red Sea exodus, you will know it is Summer.[/p][/quote]I thought The Daily Mirror/Mail and The Sun were making that decision? They seem to be in charge of making up every other bit of news. StElsass
  • Score: 4

12:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I think the most important bit in this article is WHERE THE RUMOURS ARE COMING FROM and WHY ?

A few weeks ago Adam Blackmore also hinted that somebody "close to" the previous chairman was spreading rumours about players leaving. Today the Echo also hint at the same ?

Why ? what are their motives ?
1/ ? Is there a TAKEOVER offer and somebody wants to reduce the asking price by causing unrest ??
2/ We are due new shirts & SPONSERS this season and I would imagine any sponsorship deal would be different if players left ? (Somebody was poor in that area and is trying "spike" any big deal) ??
3/ Do the Players/Manager think Ralph is WEAK with his "wishy washy" statements ("maybe...", "we would like to....", "we hope to..." etc) and are trying to push him into a more STRONG LEADERSHIP statement about the direction of the Club. ??
4/ Was the story planted on the 1st Day of Season Ticket sales to try and reduce the £10m (20,000 times £500) in the Bank Account by the end of May for a purpose ??

One think I am sure about is that Adam does NOT want to leave, so why the "placed rumours", what is the BIGGER STORY ?

(Oh for a "Woodward and Bernstein" working for the Echo to do some REAL journalism)
I think the most important bit in this article is WHERE THE RUMOURS ARE COMING FROM and WHY ? A few weeks ago Adam Blackmore also hinted that somebody "close to" the previous chairman was spreading rumours about players leaving. Today the Echo also hint at the same ? Why ? what are their motives ? 1/ ? Is there a TAKEOVER offer and somebody wants to reduce the asking price by causing unrest ?? 2/ We are due new shirts & SPONSERS this season and I would imagine any sponsorship deal would be different if players left ? (Somebody was poor in that area and is trying "spike" any big deal) ?? 3/ Do the Players/Manager think Ralph is WEAK with his "wishy washy" statements ("maybe...", "we would like to....", "we hope to..." etc) and are trying to push him into a more STRONG LEADERSHIP statement about the direction of the Club. ?? 4/ Was the story planted on the 1st Day of Season Ticket sales to try and reduce the £10m (20,000 times £500) in the Bank Account by the end of May for a purpose ?? One think I am sure about is that Adam does NOT want to leave, so why the "placed rumours", what is the BIGGER STORY ? (Oh for a "Woodward and Bernstein" working for the Echo to do some REAL journalism) Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 6

12:42pm Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations.

you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me.
I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.
Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help !
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain[/p][/quote]so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations. you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me. I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.[/p][/quote]Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help ! killared
  • Score: -3

12:48pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

I can't log in to twitter any more.
had enough of the arrogance of the media and other teams who think they have a god given right to buy our players.

it sickens me to think that, after all our trials and tribulations, all the hard work put in by the club, all the unfailing support from the fans, we get ourselves a bit of success and start moving upwards and the vultures are immediately circling, the media with a clear agenda start agitating against us.

I am sick to death of it. I thought the idea of a league was for it to be a competition not a procession every season with the teams cast in strict order. Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton etc DO NOT have a god given right to sit at the top of the table, buying up all the talent that other clubs have worked so hard to develop.
That sickens me most of all - Saints academy should benefit Saints football club first and foremost via the pitch NOT via the bank balance.
every year we are putting out these fantastic young players, some of them turn out to be exceptional talents and yet we, until recently, we have not properly seen the benefit of it. And I have had enough of it. The club have developed the core of what could be an amazing team, we're pushing up the table. I am tired of supporting a Saints team that struggles constantly both on and off the pitch. I am tired of watching the amazing players we produce go off and benefit other clubs. I just want the club I have supported all my life to reap the rewards of it's investment of time money and effort into the youth.
I can't log in to twitter any more. had enough of the arrogance of the media and other teams who think they have a god given right to buy our players. it sickens me to think that, after all our trials and tribulations, all the hard work put in by the club, all the unfailing support from the fans, we get ourselves a bit of success and start moving upwards and the vultures are immediately circling, the media with a clear agenda start agitating against us. I am sick to death of it. I thought the idea of a league was for it to be a competition not a procession every season with the teams cast in strict order. Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton etc DO NOT have a god given right to sit at the top of the table, buying up all the talent that other clubs have worked so hard to develop. That sickens me most of all - Saints academy should benefit Saints football club first and foremost via the pitch NOT via the bank balance. every year we are putting out these fantastic young players, some of them turn out to be exceptional talents and yet we, until recently, we have not properly seen the benefit of it. And I have had enough of it. The club have developed the core of what could be an amazing team, we're pushing up the table. I am tired of supporting a Saints team that struggles constantly both on and off the pitch. I am tired of watching the amazing players we produce go off and benefit other clubs. I just want the club I have supported all my life to reap the rewards of it's investment of time money and effort into the youth. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 25

12:52pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Mosin85 says...

killared wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations.

you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me.
I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.
Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help !
Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp
are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain[/p][/quote]so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations. you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me. I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.[/p][/quote]Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help ![/p][/quote]Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha Mosin85
  • Score: -1

12:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Dave Juson says...

Apparently, the story that the Liverpool Echo are preparing a bid for the Echo's sports editor Simon Carter is just wishful thinking on my part.
Apparently, the story that the Liverpool Echo are preparing a bid for the Echo's sports editor Simon Carter is just wishful thinking on my part. Dave Juson
  • Score: 4

12:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bigfella777 says...

15 mill is a joke
15 mill is a joke bigfella777
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

Mosin85 wrote:
killared wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations.

you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me.
I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.
Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help !
Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp

are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha
I don't know If you have watch Toure evolution from Monaco to Barca and now city and yet Toure score 19 goals as a defensive midfilefder, last week he played behind the striker because silva was injured
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain[/p][/quote]so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations. you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me. I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.[/p][/quote]Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help ![/p][/quote]Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha[/p][/quote]I don't know If you have watch Toure evolution from Monaco to Barca and now city and yet Toure score 19 goals as a defensive midfilefder, last week he played behind the striker because silva was injured killared
  • Score: -2

1:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

03alpe01 says...

Not again!
Not again! 03alpe01
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Tue 29 Apr 14

DisplacedFan says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger! DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

1:39pm Tue 29 Apr 14

NewForestStu says...

Daily Echo and Daily Mail = gutter press
Daily Echo and Daily Mail = gutter press NewForestStu
  • Score: 3

1:47pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes";

i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong?

I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees.
QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes"; i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong? I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:49pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Saint Jinx says...

What are the people at the Echo up to? This shouldn't be a top headline - people read the national newspapers and the Echo should try and be a bit more intelligent and LOYAL. However, I agree that some people are stirring and trying to get this team of a golden era broken up.
While we are on the subject, I find the whole merry-go-round of transfers an insult to the people who spend their money (in this instance, Southampton people) week in week out, and to the youngsters (and those who are not so young) who dream of seeing Saints become a major force in football. After all, that is what it is all about, isn't it, seeing your team reach the dizzy heights. Maybe I am not a realist and maybe dreams are precisely what the word says, dreams, but wouldn't it be great if everyone was like Matt (the spot betting apart!).
What are the people at the Echo up to? This shouldn't be a top headline - people read the national newspapers and the Echo should try and be a bit more intelligent and LOYAL. However, I agree that some people are stirring and trying to get this team of a golden era broken up. While we are on the subject, I find the whole merry-go-round of transfers an insult to the people who spend their money (in this instance, Southampton people) week in week out, and to the youngsters (and those who are not so young) who dream of seeing Saints become a major force in football. After all, that is what it is all about, isn't it, seeing your team reach the dizzy heights. Maybe I am not a realist and maybe dreams are precisely what the word says, dreams, but wouldn't it be great if everyone was like Matt (the spot betting apart!). Saint Jinx
  • Score: 3

1:55pm Tue 29 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

My Spurs pal has just emailed me a rumour that MP is 'set for Spurs talks'.

Whether true or false I think this 'wait till the end of the season' stuff is rubbish (though probably untrue anyway as I'm sure they must have been talking). With eighth place virtually in the bag we need MP tied down first and foremost. That's the key, then the players will sign. Should have been done before other clubs start turning their heads, if, of course, MP is willing to talk. I just don't buy the idea that he won't speak to them mid-season because he wants to concentrate on the games - I'd say you'd be able to concentrate much easier knowing you can plan for next year. And that goes for the players too.
My Spurs pal has just emailed me a rumour that MP is 'set for Spurs talks'. Whether true or false I think this 'wait till the end of the season' stuff is rubbish (though probably untrue anyway as I'm sure they must have been talking). With eighth place virtually in the bag we need MP tied down first and foremost. That's the key, then the players will sign. Should have been done before other clubs start turning their heads, if, of course, MP is willing to talk. I just don't buy the idea that he won't speak to them mid-season because he wants to concentrate on the games - I'd say you'd be able to concentrate much easier knowing you can plan for next year. And that goes for the players too. SaintJD
  • Score: -3

1:57pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
A whinger would be more accurate.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger![/p][/quote]A whinger would be more accurate. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

If you are into the Conspiracy theories perhaps this on a nother Forum puts things in a different light.

http://www.fansnetwo
rk.co.uk/football/so
uthampton/news/34912
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What do you think?
If you are into the Conspiracy theories perhaps this on a nother Forum puts things in a different light. http://www.fansnetwo rk.co.uk/football/so uthampton/news/34912 /? What do you think? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:08pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintJD wrote:
My Spurs pal has just emailed me a rumour that MP is 'set for Spurs talks'.

Whether true or false I think this 'wait till the end of the season' stuff is rubbish (though probably untrue anyway as I'm sure they must have been talking). With eighth place virtually in the bag we need MP tied down first and foremost. That's the key, then the players will sign. Should have been done before other clubs start turning their heads, if, of course, MP is willing to talk. I just don't buy the idea that he won't speak to them mid-season because he wants to concentrate on the games - I'd say you'd be able to concentrate much easier knowing you can plan for next year. And that goes for the players too.
We may "need MP tied down" but it hardly a unilateral decision the club (or MP) can make. It takes two to negotiate.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: My Spurs pal has just emailed me a rumour that MP is 'set for Spurs talks'. Whether true or false I think this 'wait till the end of the season' stuff is rubbish (though probably untrue anyway as I'm sure they must have been talking). With eighth place virtually in the bag we need MP tied down first and foremost. That's the key, then the players will sign. Should have been done before other clubs start turning their heads, if, of course, MP is willing to talk. I just don't buy the idea that he won't speak to them mid-season because he wants to concentrate on the games - I'd say you'd be able to concentrate much easier knowing you can plan for next year. And that goes for the players too.[/p][/quote]We may "need MP tied down" but it hardly a unilateral decision the club (or MP) can make. It takes two to negotiate. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

2:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes";

i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong?

I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees.
No problem being a happy clapper Osprey.

To be fair to them though, I think that by uncertainty they mean that all the players want to stay, the manager wants to stay, the board say them want to be ambitious, so you ask the question, why aren't we getting it all sorted now?

RK and LR have come out with positive statements, but without being specific. We'll only really know what they mean when a) MP signs or b) they get a big offer for one of our players or our manager.

Both the manager and the players are saying that they want to know what the club's ambitions are and whether they match theirs (which we can assume is the vision that Nicola got them all to buy into).

So I think there is uncertainty and will continue to be until the manager has been told what budget he has for next season and what position we will be gunning for. From what he's said in recent interviews it doesn't seem that has been confirmed.

While I know both parties say they'd like to wait until close season, surely, if this is such a big summer for us, we need to be actively preparing for it now, while we have the luxury of sitting in eighth place.

The key is: sign up MP. If he signs, you know that the club's vision and transfer policy must be right. Until he does, there will always be a degree of uncertainty unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes"; i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong? I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees.[/p][/quote]No problem being a happy clapper Osprey. To be fair to them though, I think that by uncertainty they mean that all the players want to stay, the manager wants to stay, the board say them want to be ambitious, so you ask the question, why aren't we getting it all sorted now? RK and LR have come out with positive statements, but without being specific. We'll only really know what they mean when a) MP signs or b) they get a big offer for one of our players or our manager. Both the manager and the players are saying that they want to know what the club's ambitions are and whether they match theirs (which we can assume is the vision that Nicola got them all to buy into). So I think there is uncertainty and will continue to be until the manager has been told what budget he has for next season and what position we will be gunning for. From what he's said in recent interviews it doesn't seem that has been confirmed. While I know both parties say they'd like to wait until close season, surely, if this is such a big summer for us, we need to be actively preparing for it now, while we have the luxury of sitting in eighth place. The key is: sign up MP. If he signs, you know that the club's vision and transfer policy must be right. Until he does, there will always be a degree of uncertainty unfortunately. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:25pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Mosin85 says...

killared wrote:
Mosin85 wrote:
killared wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
saint gee wrote:
killared wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on
killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.
YAYA TOURE !
yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?
I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain
so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations.

you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me.
I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.
Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help !
Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp


are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha
I don't know If you have watch Toure evolution from Monaco to Barca and now city and yet Toure score 19 goals as a defensive midfilefder, last week he played behind the striker because silva was injured
WRONG DUDE, city played 442 flat back four and mid with 2 strikers. and got replaced by a defensive midfeilder called fernadinho. never said he cant score goals, every one can if they take there chances and yaya is one of the best midfielders in the world. but just cause he can push forward and score goals does not make him a playmaker, he makes runs from deep. if he is an attacking player playing in an attacking role what the hell is he doing sitting in front of his back four making runs from deep? do you ever see Lallana making last dich takles saving are back four? ive never seen him do it but yaya does nearly ever game strange tht. so ill say it again, if i wanted an attacking player to create goal scoring chances i would rather have Lallana than yaya. if i wanted a world class central mid i would buy yaya but as we are talking about Adam Lallana not yaya i would atleast compare him with a player that plays the same role eg Ozil. as i said before compare yaya to cork morgan and wayama not Lallana two different type of players that play totaly different roles in there given team. YayaToure is a box to box mid, Lallana is an Advanced playmaker. two diff posistions and roles. would love to see yaya feet move half as fast as Lallana's and pick and see a pass like Lallana. Man city play 4/2/3/1 same formation as we play with fernadinho playing next to Yaya in the defensive midfield places ( the two infront of the back four?? ) now if he was a playmaker why is he not playing wide right/ left or center? ahh yes he is not an attacking player duhhhhh.........
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]50 million on Lallana and 40 million on Luke Shaw really seriously ! So now Lallana has the value of Suarez and Luke Shaw is worth 40 million knowing that he never play in Champions league,So Luke Shaw is worth more than Dani Alves who play for Barca and Alaba Bayern Munich. I don't know where you get these figures but the true value of Lallana is £14 up to £15 million, Luke Shaw is a difficult one no one really know is value because is very young and still have to improve so he might go for 18 up to 20 million + add on[/p][/quote]killared, ARE YOU ON DRUGS, adams def worth 50 mil, name one player in the league better then him in his position, u cant cause hes number 1. thats why hes linked with all the top clubs,cause hes a top player, 14-15 mil be serious, stop smoking crack.[/p][/quote]YAYA TOURE ![/p][/quote]yeah he's a great player as well i agree, whats he worth?[/p][/quote]I don't know is worth right now but Man city pay 25 or 26 million for the beast ! which I think is a Bargain[/p][/quote]so killared, yaya went to mancy in 2010 (summer transfer) for a fee of £24mill he is 30 now, 31 in a couple of weeks, and would have been 27 yrs old when sold. he is currently valued at around £26.5mill, yes even for a 30/31yr old, yet your saying that lalla at 25, 26 soon, is only worth £14-£15mill. really you want to stick with that? you also said that it was a papers valuation, this is the same papers who have recently valued him at anywhere between £20-£35mill. you cant take one papers rubbish valuation and claim it to be correct just because it suits you and forget every other papers valuations. you should also remember at this is the same paper that ran anti-KL and saints story after story when NC left. could NC still be trying to stir trouble? wouldn't surprise me. I may be wrong, it has happened once before in 1985, but I still think and believe that when MP signs his new contract the players will stay and we will get a couple of new players. we will then have another great start to the season and by December the papers will be selling our entire squad all over again whilst killared values sfc at£50mill.[/p][/quote]Yes I am sticking to what I said because Yaya Toure is better than Adam Lallana don't get me wrong Lallana is very good and I'm a big fan of his movement and quick feet and skills but honestly if you compare both players Toure is just too good. What Toure did to Palace on sunday was just too much he humiliate the defence ! Both players have a great season but Toure is just too good in midfield if you are a die hard fan and believe that every Saints players are worth 50 million then that's your opinion. There's some good Championship player in our team who can go like Sharp, Guly, Hoovield, Fox, Barnard .... these guys are not worth much but every little help ![/p][/quote]Yaya is a defensive / central midfield player, Lallana is an attacking / advanced playmaker, different types of players so a very poor compare if you ask me, i would rather have lallana than yaya. Lallana chances created are not to far behind Saurez and is ahead of yaya, if we had saurez uo front Lallana would be miles ahead on the assists charts..........comp are yaya to corky wayama and morgan as they play in his posistion. kinda like comapring Buric with lambert hahahaha[/p][/quote]I don't know If you have watch Toure evolution from Monaco to Barca and now city and yet Toure score 19 goals as a defensive midfilefder, last week he played behind the striker because silva was injured[/p][/quote]WRONG DUDE, city played 442 flat back four and mid with 2 strikers. and got replaced by a defensive midfeilder called fernadinho. never said he cant score goals, every one can if they take there chances and yaya is one of the best midfielders in the world. but just cause he can push forward and score goals does not make him a playmaker, he makes runs from deep. if he is an attacking player playing in an attacking role what the hell is he doing sitting in front of his back four making runs from deep? do you ever see Lallana making last dich takles saving are back four? ive never seen him do it but yaya does nearly ever game strange tht. so ill say it again, if i wanted an attacking player to create goal scoring chances i would rather have Lallana than yaya. if i wanted a world class central mid i would buy yaya but as we are talking about Adam Lallana not yaya i would atleast compare him with a player that plays the same role eg Ozil. as i said before compare yaya to cork morgan and wayama not Lallana two different type of players that play totaly different roles in there given team. YayaToure is a box to box mid, Lallana is an Advanced playmaker. two diff posistions and roles. would love to see yaya feet move half as fast as Lallana's and pick and see a pass like Lallana. Man city play 4/2/3/1 same formation as we play with fernadinho playing next to Yaya in the defensive midfield places ( the two infront of the back four?? ) now if he was a playmaker why is he not playing wide right/ left or center? ahh yes he is not an attacking player duhhhhh......... Mosin85
  • Score: 1

2:37pm Tue 29 Apr 14

apm1954 says...

same old echo yawn.
same old echo yawn. apm1954
  • Score: 0

2:43pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintJD wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes";

i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong?

I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees.
No problem being a happy clapper Osprey.

To be fair to them though, I think that by uncertainty they mean that all the players want to stay, the manager wants to stay, the board say them want to be ambitious, so you ask the question, why aren't we getting it all sorted now?

RK and LR have come out with positive statements, but without being specific. We'll only really know what they mean when a) MP signs or b) they get a big offer for one of our players or our manager.

Both the manager and the players are saying that they want to know what the club's ambitions are and whether they match theirs (which we can assume is the vision that Nicola got them all to buy into).

So I think there is uncertainty and will continue to be until the manager has been told what budget he has for next season and what position we will be gunning for. From what he's said in recent interviews it doesn't seem that has been confirmed.

While I know both parties say they'd like to wait until close season, surely, if this is such a big summer for us, we need to be actively preparing for it now, while we have the luxury of sitting in eighth place.

The key is: sign up MP. If he signs, you know that the club's vision and transfer policy must be right. Until he does, there will always be a degree of uncertainty unfortunately.
I think we will have to wait, just a couple of weeks, once the Transfer Window is open and the current Season has been put to bed, the action will commence and we will then be in a position to comment, it will be obvious which way the wind is blowing, once any or no movement happens, until then, best that we put up and shut up, anything else would be a waste of time. In spite of all the nonsense, every single one of us knows that it could go either way, we aren't as naive as some make us out to be.

As for the last two games, how on earth does MP get the players motivated in games seemingly with no real importance or urgency, that has to be a tough ask, although beating Manure is everyones dream! All I ask is that the players play for the fans and get a couple of results, would hate the Season to go out with a wimper after all we have been through.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: QUOTE: "The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes"; i.e. Nothing that RK or LR has said was certain then, just hot air, glossing over the real facts. Corky was lieing through his teeth when he said players wanted to stay. Luke has just been pulling the wool over our eyes, and MP is just having us on before he does a runner, why on earth did I get all of this so wrong? I know it's because I am a happy clapper and am so biased I can't see the wood for the trees.[/p][/quote]No problem being a happy clapper Osprey. To be fair to them though, I think that by uncertainty they mean that all the players want to stay, the manager wants to stay, the board say them want to be ambitious, so you ask the question, why aren't we getting it all sorted now? RK and LR have come out with positive statements, but without being specific. We'll only really know what they mean when a) MP signs or b) they get a big offer for one of our players or our manager. Both the manager and the players are saying that they want to know what the club's ambitions are and whether they match theirs (which we can assume is the vision that Nicola got them all to buy into). So I think there is uncertainty and will continue to be until the manager has been told what budget he has for next season and what position we will be gunning for. From what he's said in recent interviews it doesn't seem that has been confirmed. While I know both parties say they'd like to wait until close season, surely, if this is such a big summer for us, we need to be actively preparing for it now, while we have the luxury of sitting in eighth place. The key is: sign up MP. If he signs, you know that the club's vision and transfer policy must be right. Until he does, there will always be a degree of uncertainty unfortunately.[/p][/quote]I think we will have to wait, just a couple of weeks, once the Transfer Window is open and the current Season has been put to bed, the action will commence and we will then be in a position to comment, it will be obvious which way the wind is blowing, once any or no movement happens, until then, best that we put up and shut up, anything else would be a waste of time. In spite of all the nonsense, every single one of us knows that it could go either way, we aren't as naive as some make us out to be. As for the last two games, how on earth does MP get the players motivated in games seemingly with no real importance or urgency, that has to be a tough ask, although beating Manure is everyones dream! All I ask is that the players play for the fans and get a couple of results, would hate the Season to go out with a wimper after all we have been through. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

2:44pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Take the money and run, Saints. Addition by subtraction. Although to be fair, Adam will improve as a player at Diverpool. When Diverpool players throw themselves on the ground in a heap of moaning, a penalty is usually awarded. Style points, I guess. Wonder why Gerrard's slip on Sunday didn't result in a Diverpool penalty.
Take the money and run, Saints. Addition by subtraction. Although to be fair, Adam will improve as a player at Diverpool. When Diverpool players throw themselves on the ground in a heap of moaning, a penalty is usually awarded. Style points, I guess. Wonder why Gerrard's slip on Sunday didn't result in a Diverpool penalty. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -6

2:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

If Shaw is valued at £30m, then clearly £15m for a game changer who is at, or approaching, his peak, is a joke.

For me, all of this uncertainty is being caused by one person - MP.
The sound bite from Krueger and Reed indicates that the club intends to keep (where possible) all of it's key players. They also indicate their intention to strengthen the squad, with MP having the final say on who comes in and who leaves.
MP's steadfast refusal to discuss his future, until the season has ended, is what is rattling the players and fans alike, and causing the uncertainty. Reed, in all honesty, had no option but to agree that the club were happy with this, as by saying they weren't could have created a rift and led to even more uncertainty and rumour. MP has the board by the huevos, in all honesty.

One thing I didn't know, until reading it on Facebook this morning, is that MP's 13 year old on has joined our academy (allegedly).
Is this enough to ensure MP stays for the long term?
If Shaw is valued at £30m, then clearly £15m for a game changer who is at, or approaching, his peak, is a joke. For me, all of this uncertainty is being caused by one person - MP. The sound bite from Krueger and Reed indicates that the club intends to keep (where possible) all of it's key players. They also indicate their intention to strengthen the squad, with MP having the final say on who comes in and who leaves. MP's steadfast refusal to discuss his future, until the season has ended, is what is rattling the players and fans alike, and causing the uncertainty. Reed, in all honesty, had no option but to agree that the club were happy with this, as by saying they weren't could have created a rift and led to even more uncertainty and rumour. MP has the board by the huevos, in all honesty. One thing I didn't know, until reading it on Facebook this morning, is that MP's 13 year old on has joined our academy (allegedly). Is this enough to ensure MP stays for the long term? Costa Baz
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Tue 29 Apr 14

befriendly says...

I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column.
I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column. befriendly
  • Score: 1

2:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future.

I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys.

Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere.

I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless.

Pass the cheque book Gladys!
confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system.
p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest!
I think it was Osvaldo what did it.
No he has an alibi, was nailed to the bench at Juventus.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest![/p][/quote]I think it was Osvaldo what did it.[/p][/quote]No he has an alibi, was nailed to the bench at Juventus. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

3:05pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Mosin85 says...

befriendly wrote:
I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column.
I think it should be a regulation that news paper speculation should be banned. after all they only cause unrest to players and clubs or atleast ban it during the closed transfer windows and are only allowed to speculate during the window its self. but either way i am not to bothered by it all, if they leave they leave, Saints will carry on but like most Saints fans i would like to keep them and add to it rather than take away from it
[quote][p][bold]befriendly[/bold] wrote: I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column.[/p][/quote]I think it should be a regulation that news paper speculation should be banned. after all they only cause unrest to players and clubs or atleast ban it during the closed transfer windows and are only allowed to speculate during the window its self. but either way i am not to bothered by it all, if they leave they leave, Saints will carry on but like most Saints fans i would like to keep them and add to it rather than take away from it Mosin85
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

We used to complain that Saints never had any press coverage, it's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now!
We used to complain that Saints never had any press coverage, it's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous now! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:44pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -7

4:01pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Mosin85 wrote:
befriendly wrote:
I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column.
I think it should be a regulation that news paper speculation should be banned. after all they only cause unrest to players and clubs or atleast ban it during the closed transfer windows and are only allowed to speculate during the window its self. but either way i am not to bothered by it all, if they leave they leave, Saints will carry on but like most Saints fans i would like to keep them and add to it rather than take away from it
Not sure HM Government would want to bring in regulation to restrict 250 years of press freedom in Britain, over the potential transfer of a footballer.

Maybe I'm wrong though, have word with your MP.
[quote][p][bold]Mosin85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]befriendly[/bold] wrote: I would love to see a law that stated a newspaper must reveal where their rumour stories originated, then we'd know if was the players agent agitating for a move. IE commission. The buying club telling the player we want you but your club won't let us talk to you or just some reporter desperate for a story to fill a column.[/p][/quote]I think it should be a regulation that news paper speculation should be banned. after all they only cause unrest to players and clubs or atleast ban it during the closed transfer windows and are only allowed to speculate during the window its self. but either way i am not to bothered by it all, if they leave they leave, Saints will carry on but like most Saints fans i would like to keep them and add to it rather than take away from it[/p][/quote]Not sure HM Government would want to bring in regulation to restrict 250 years of press freedom in Britain, over the potential transfer of a footballer. Maybe I'm wrong though, have word with your MP. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: 1

4:17pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Blackwaterblue says...

He looks more a Liverpool player than a Spurs or Man U. Will be interesting to se if Saints can keep hold of him
He looks more a Liverpool player than a Spurs or Man U. Will be interesting to se if Saints can keep hold of him Blackwaterblue
  • Score: -2

4:25pm Tue 29 Apr 14

loosehead says...

He & the other young players stand out & are getting noticed playing here so if they go to another club will they as some previous Saint starlets/stars end up in the reserve team?
Would they be better off staying here & pushing for more players to bolster the squad & competing for the top of the table then getting pay increases?
Or stay in Man U's reserves & get a bigger wage packet?
What's happened to Walcot & Chamberlain? never heard them mentioned in the Arsenal game I saw on TV?
He & the other young players stand out & are getting noticed playing here so if they go to another club will they as some previous Saint starlets/stars end up in the reserve team? Would they be better off staying here & pushing for more players to bolster the squad & competing for the top of the table then getting pay increases? Or stay in Man U's reserves & get a bigger wage packet? What's happened to Walcot & Chamberlain? never heard them mentioned in the Arsenal game I saw on TV? loosehead
  • Score: 2

4:30pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Snodgrass 65 app, 12 gls, 14 yellow cards value £4-£6mill
lallana 66 app, 12 gls, 5 yellow cards value £15-£30mill

are you serious? Snodgrass is a winger that even celtic wont pay the £6mill that Norwich want!
theres no difference in goals scored to games played so both `hit the net` at the same rate! `fight and spirit` are you suggesting that lallana hasn't got either of those?
Lallana is grateful just to be able to play: when he was 18 he was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat and told he would have to give up the game if urgent surgery were not successful. "That was a dark time, I hadn't even played my first professional game and to be told you have to stop because of your heart was worrying," he recalls. "I had to have an operation and there was chance that if it went a certain way I wouldn't be able to play. Thankfully it went well and now I'm fit and healthy." (the guardian)
so a player who fights back from that sort of problem aged just 18 has no fight or spirit? you really need to think about what you say about players before you say it! especially as just a couple of years earlier Marc-Vivien Foé sadly died during a match from heart problems!
lallana has my full and total respect for the way he came back from surgery and has turned into one of the best players in England and is almost certain to play in the world cup.
no fight or spirit? you really make me laugh!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.[/p][/quote]Snodgrass 65 app, 12 gls, 14 yellow cards value £4-£6mill lallana 66 app, 12 gls, 5 yellow cards value £15-£30mill are you serious? Snodgrass is a winger that even celtic wont pay the £6mill that Norwich want! theres no difference in goals scored to games played so both `hit the net` at the same rate! `fight and spirit` are you suggesting that lallana hasn't got either of those? Lallana is grateful just to be able to play: when he was 18 he was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat and told he would have to give up the game if urgent surgery were not successful. "That was a dark time, I hadn't even played my first professional game and to be told you have to stop because of your heart was worrying," he recalls. "I had to have an operation and there was chance that if it went a certain way I wouldn't be able to play. Thankfully it went well and now I'm fit and healthy." (the guardian) so a player who fights back from that sort of problem aged just 18 has no fight or spirit? you really need to think about what you say about players before you say it! especially as just a couple of years earlier Marc-Vivien Foé sadly died during a match from heart problems! lallana has my full and total respect for the way he came back from surgery and has turned into one of the best players in England and is almost certain to play in the world cup. no fight or spirit? you really make me laugh! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

4:39pm Tue 29 Apr 14

peregrine73 says...

whatever is quoted in the press,the reality is Lallana,Shaw and other squad members will go given the mix of double your wages and club status :i e Liverpool,Chelsea or Manchester Utd. And wouldn't anyone given the right conditions?.
whatever is quoted in the press,the reality is Lallana,Shaw and other squad members will go given the mix of double your wages and club status :i e Liverpool,Chelsea or Manchester Utd. And wouldn't anyone given the right conditions?. peregrine73
  • Score: -2

4:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Winchester Saint says...

I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week.

Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much.

Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on.

Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us?

I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw.

Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!!
I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week. Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much. Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on. Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us? I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw. Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!! Winchester Saint
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Velleity says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4
Adam Lallana, goals this season 9.

Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.[/p][/quote]Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4 Adam Lallana, goals this season 9. Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type... Velleity
  • Score: 3

4:49pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
He & the other young players stand out & are getting noticed playing here so if they go to another club will they as some previous Saint starlets/stars end up in the reserve team?
Would they be better off staying here & pushing for more players to bolster the squad & competing for the top of the table then getting pay increases?
Or stay in Man U's reserves & get a bigger wage packet?
What's happened to Walcot & Chamberlain? never heard them mentioned in the Arsenal game I saw on TV?
Walcot and Oxo have both been victims of injury, sadly, they will feature again in the future don't worry. Difficult choice, a decent wedge and 1st team place guaranteed if you play well enough here, or mega bucks, sat on the bench not getting match time in a big time Charly side, tricky decision.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: He & the other young players stand out & are getting noticed playing here so if they go to another club will they as some previous Saint starlets/stars end up in the reserve team? Would they be better off staying here & pushing for more players to bolster the squad & competing for the top of the table then getting pay increases? Or stay in Man U's reserves & get a bigger wage packet? What's happened to Walcot & Chamberlain? never heard them mentioned in the Arsenal game I saw on TV?[/p][/quote]Walcot and Oxo have both been victims of injury, sadly, they will feature again in the future don't worry. Difficult choice, a decent wedge and 1st team place guaranteed if you play well enough here, or mega bucks, sat on the bench not getting match time in a big time Charly side, tricky decision. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Winchester Saint wrote:
I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week.

Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much.

Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on.

Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us?

I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw.

Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!!
Talk now is for Carlo Ancelotti to do the Spuds job, who knows? Only MP knows what he is going to do and he ain't telling.
[quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week. Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much. Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on. Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us? I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw. Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!![/p][/quote]Talk now is for Carlo Ancelotti to do the Spuds job, who knows? Only MP knows what he is going to do and he ain't telling. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Velleity says...

Velleity wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4
Adam Lallana, goals this season 9.

Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...
My mistake , Snodgrass 6 goals. So you're probably right. We should rush to sign the whining, gutless, diving cheat.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.[/p][/quote]Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4 Adam Lallana, goals this season 9. Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...[/p][/quote]My mistake , Snodgrass 6 goals. So you're probably right. We should rush to sign the whining, gutless, diving cheat. Velleity
  • Score: 4

4:54pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Freddie Flowerpot says...

Winchester Saint wrote:
I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week.

Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much.

Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on.

Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us?

I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw.

Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!!
I read this in a Chinese accent, are you Chinese ? If so, ni hao!

Hope so, we are a club who welcome everyone, whatever their culture and background!

In answer to your question, I expect he will leave, Spurs is a hell of a job though.
[quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week. Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much. Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on. Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us? I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw. Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!![/p][/quote]I read this in a Chinese accent, are you Chinese ? If so, ni hao! Hope so, we are a club who welcome everyone, whatever their culture and background! In answer to your question, I expect he will leave, Spurs is a hell of a job though. Freddie Flowerpot
  • Score: -4

4:55pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4
Adam Lallana, goals this season 9.

Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...
Didn't think it worth responding to this one!
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.[/p][/quote]Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4 Adam Lallana, goals this season 9. Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...[/p][/quote]Didn't think it worth responding to this one! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Tue 29 Apr 14

killared says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.
Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4
Adam Lallana, goals this season 9.

Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...
Didn't think it worth responding to this one!
Snodgrass wtf ?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Sell Lallana to the Anfield fools. Buy Snodgrass. Pocket the change. Squad vastly tougher after adding someone who has spirit, fight, and can hit the net. Much improved.[/p][/quote]Robert Snodgrass, goals this season 4 Adam Lallana, goals this season 9. Give your silly WUMmery at least a hint of thought before you type...[/p][/quote]Didn't think it worth responding to this one![/p][/quote]Snodgrass wtf ? killared
  • Score: 0

5:05pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Winchester Saint wrote:
I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week.

Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much.

Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on.

Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us?

I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw.

Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!!
Talk now is for Carlo Ancelotti to do the Spuds job, who knows? Only MP knows what he is going to do and he ain't telling.
.. and now Frank De Boer is in the frame MP is slowly dropping down the list.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week. Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much. Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on. Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us? I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw. Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!![/p][/quote]Talk now is for Carlo Ancelotti to do the Spuds job, who knows? Only MP knows what he is going to do and he ain't telling.[/p][/quote].. and now Frank De Boer is in the frame MP is slowly dropping down the list. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

5:20pm Tue 29 Apr 14

lowe esteem says...

Egomaniac wrote:
I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future.

The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable.

I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football.

We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone.

Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in.

There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.
Don't put a price on any of 'em- they're priceless surely?

There is a very real chance that as a collective they will all do as well here as anywhere, particularly with a very few well selected additions- and it will mean a lot more than can be measured or banked elsewhere.
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Whilst I don't subscribe to the get down on bended knee, do anything to keep them mentality, I think it is time we heard a few more noises from above that their ambitions are rightly as lofty as most of this playing squad, and that, yes, we can really go places. I don't care what anyone says, but some short term relative success in FA or Europa Cups were within our grasp and would have appeased many, be they fans or the highly talented bunch of senior players.

Onwards Upwards Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: I know I will get scored down for my views, but I think we have to be realistic about the future. The uncertainty coming out of the Club at present speaks volumes. If the Club was serious about keeping our manager and players, then there would be no doubts coming from the players. Lallana won't commit, Shaw won't commit, MP has not committed. Speaks volumes and makes the Board's comments weak and untenable. I think we have to face reality. If offers in the region of £30M each come in for Lallana and Shaw, the Club will sell. I'd put £50M on Adam and £40M on Luke. Likewise, despite the freedom and the facilities available to MP he too will be away if a Club like Spurs move for him. And lets be honest, if you were the individual concerned, wouldn't you move on to greener and richer pastures, with Champions League beckoning (tho not at MU ha! ha!). We have seen over the years that the word loyalty simply does not exist in the world of professional football. We should also get whatever we can for Osvaldo - accept the losses there because we don't want him back! The combination of all the transfer out fees would leave the Club in a good position to bring in very high quality players to replace those gone. Much as I would love to see Saints in the top four, it isn't going to happen. I've waited 65 years for it, with no joy. I will remain happy to be a mid table Premier League club with some good cup runs (hopefully) in the future to keep the revenue coming in. There, now you can all start giving me the thumbs down votes. I still think I'm right though.[/p][/quote]Don't put a price on any of 'em- they're priceless surely? There is a very real chance that as a collective they will all do as well here as anywhere, particularly with a very few well selected additions- and it will mean a lot more than can be measured or banked elsewhere. . Whilst I don't subscribe to the get down on bended knee, do anything to keep them mentality, I think it is time we heard a few more noises from above that their ambitions are rightly as lofty as most of this playing squad, and that, yes, we can really go places. I don't care what anyone says, but some short term relative success in FA or Europa Cups were within our grasp and would have appeased many, be they fans or the highly talented bunch of senior players. Onwards Upwards Saints. lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Jesus_02 says...

Confucious wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Confucious wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys!
confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest!
I think it was Osvaldo what did it.
Dont be daft...must have been Guly
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Okay, it's been made very clear that we will have to "wait until the summer" before we know who's staying and who isn't. Poch says we must wait until the summer re his future - and indeed, when asked on Saturday, even Adam said we must wait until the summer re his future. I guess waiting until the summer is something us fans have to learn to live with - and in a way it's a price we have to pay for the success we've enjoyed and that success is the main reason why "Wait until the summer" is on everyone's lips at St Marys. Oh, apart from the ticket sales people that is. Very unusually, they want my four season tickets and parking ticket renewed earlier than ever this year or my favourite seats and parking space could go elsewhere. I'd rather like to ask them if they would please do what everyone else is doing ie waiting until the summer, before I cough up my two and a half grand - just in case I have a summer of inglorious discontent made winter by p!ss poor comings and goings. But hey, I'm going to be there regardless. Pass the cheque book Gladys![/p][/quote]confucious, why don't you borrow the time machine that some of our fans seem to have. you know the ones who tell us that lalla, luke and MP (amongst others) are gone already. we know they must have a time machine because they tell us its `the truth!` or they are being `realistic`. I`m sure if you ask nicely they wont mind you using it, you will then `know` what they `know` and you can then buy your season tickets and parking pass safe in the knowledge that all our players and manager have left and we have appointed `insert name of new manager` as manager and will change system from this boring keep the ball and outplay the opponents whilst playing lovely football system, and change to a it the ball up front and hope Big Sam, the only current player who hasn't been linked away, can score against our old players, system. p.s. whilst you in the future could you find out who killed lucy beale, I can then let the other half know and we can stop watching the bore fest![/p][/quote]I think it was Osvaldo what did it.[/p][/quote]Dont be daft...must have been Guly Jesus_02
  • Score: 1

5:26pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Tye-Dye pt2 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I think the most important bit in this article is WHERE THE RUMOURS ARE COMING FROM and WHY ?

A few weeks ago Adam Blackmore also hinted that somebody "close to" the previous chairman was spreading rumours about players leaving. Today the Echo also hint at the same ?

Why ? what are their motives ?
1/ ? Is there a TAKEOVER offer and somebody wants to reduce the asking price by causing unrest ??
2/ We are due new shirts & SPONSERS this season and I would imagine any sponsorship deal would be different if players left ? (Somebody was poor in that area and is trying "spike" any big deal) ??
3/ Do the Players/Manager think Ralph is WEAK with his "wishy washy" statements ("maybe...", "we would like to....", "we hope to..." etc) and are trying to push him into a more STRONG LEADERSHIP statement about the direction of the Club. ??
4/ Was the story planted on the 1st Day of Season Ticket sales to try and reduce the £10m (20,000 times £500) in the Bank Account by the end of May for a purpose ??

One think I am sure about is that Adam does NOT want to leave, so why the "placed rumours", what is the BIGGER STORY ?

(Oh for a "Woodward and Bernstein" working for the Echo to do some REAL journalism)
Spot on GS, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but being as fortunate as we are to be blessed with such talented English players we would expect a bit of rumour mongering rubbish every now and again but this is ridiculous, its every flipping day! A totally plausible explanation would be for someone with a wish to destabilise and has the contacts to feed the gullible gutter press(ahem DE!!) could indeed be taking full advantage right now, who and why and for what reason will hopefully be revealed.
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I think the most important bit in this article is WHERE THE RUMOURS ARE COMING FROM and WHY ? A few weeks ago Adam Blackmore also hinted that somebody "close to" the previous chairman was spreading rumours about players leaving. Today the Echo also hint at the same ? Why ? what are their motives ? 1/ ? Is there a TAKEOVER offer and somebody wants to reduce the asking price by causing unrest ?? 2/ We are due new shirts & SPONSERS this season and I would imagine any sponsorship deal would be different if players left ? (Somebody was poor in that area and is trying "spike" any big deal) ?? 3/ Do the Players/Manager think Ralph is WEAK with his "wishy washy" statements ("maybe...", "we would like to....", "we hope to..." etc) and are trying to push him into a more STRONG LEADERSHIP statement about the direction of the Club. ?? 4/ Was the story planted on the 1st Day of Season Ticket sales to try and reduce the £10m (20,000 times £500) in the Bank Account by the end of May for a purpose ?? One think I am sure about is that Adam does NOT want to leave, so why the "placed rumours", what is the BIGGER STORY ? (Oh for a "Woodward and Bernstein" working for the Echo to do some REAL journalism)[/p][/quote]Spot on GS, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but being as fortunate as we are to be blessed with such talented English players we would expect a bit of rumour mongering rubbish every now and again but this is ridiculous, its every flipping day! A totally plausible explanation would be for someone with a wish to destabilise and has the contacts to feed the gullible gutter press(ahem DE!!) could indeed be taking full advantage right now, who and why and for what reason will hopefully be revealed. Tye-Dye pt2
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Tue 29 Apr 14

In search of the truth. says...

richard903 wrote:
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you !
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints[/p][/quote]I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you ! In search of the truth.
  • Score: -3

5:45pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Rag News a bit short of Back Page News!
Rag News a bit short of Back Page News! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: -2

6:04pm Tue 29 Apr 14

brent clifton says...

No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far. brent clifton
  • Score: 1

6:09pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

Winchester Saint wrote:
I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week.

Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much.

Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on.

Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us?

I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw.

Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!!
There is no need to panic on this one. Apparently we've refused permission for the interpreter to take part in any talks!
[quote][p][bold]Winchester Saint[/bold] wrote: I saw a report from caughtoffside page saying that MP will be going to London to discuss the move to White Hart Lane to replace Sherwood next season with Spurs chairman, Daniel Levy, later this week. Levy claimed he has agreed with the move and wants to have a talk with him so invited him to White Hart Lane this week. He said he loved the Argentine's style of managing football and that suited Spurs very much. Eh! I think that is just rumours cos MP had already said he is to focus on finishing the season with Saints. Not to have talk with someone about the move while the season is still on. Saints fan do you think MP can move to Spurs or stay with us? I am hopeful MP will stay as well as Lallana and Shaw. Hand off all of them, Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea!!!![/p][/quote]There is no need to panic on this one. Apparently we've refused permission for the interpreter to take part in any talks! Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

6:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening
They say we will sit down when the season is over
THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of
Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week
That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub!
What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING
The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening They say we will sit down when the season is over THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub! What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING bullsbags
  • Score: -3

6:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Liverpool are reportedly set to battle it out with Spanish side Sevilla in the race to sign Xherdan Shaqiri from Bayern Munich this summer, with the Swiss international believed to be considering his options come the end of the season.
written by sam parker on squawka web site
Sam Parker is a graduate in sports journalism and freelancer, looking to break into the sports-writing industry on a full-time basis

I think most of these rumours, including the saints players ones, are written by freelance sports writers who want a job at a newspaper, and as such there isn't much credence to them. theses rumours are then picked up y local and national press who print them as true.

so until I see MP either at white hart lane or in a picture signing a new contract or any of our players on the pitch of another club with their shirt on I wont believe a word of them.
the only thing I will believe is the statement from les reed, watching it gives you a better indication of how annoyed saints are with the constant stories and questions. until the club say different the statement is good enough for me. hard to believe it only came out on Friday.
Liverpool are reportedly set to battle it out with Spanish side Sevilla in the race to sign Xherdan Shaqiri from Bayern Munich this summer, with the Swiss international believed to be considering his options come the end of the season. written by sam parker on squawka web site Sam Parker is a graduate in sports journalism and freelancer, looking to break into the sports-writing industry on a full-time basis I think most of these rumours, including the saints players ones, are written by freelance sports writers who want a job at a newspaper, and as such there isn't much credence to them. theses rumours are then picked up y local and national press who print them as true. so until I see MP either at white hart lane or in a picture signing a new contract or any of our players on the pitch of another club with their shirt on I wont believe a word of them. the only thing I will believe is the statement from les reed, watching it gives you a better indication of how annoyed saints are with the constant stories and questions. until the club say different the statement is good enough for me. hard to believe it only came out on Friday. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

6:54pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Invidia says...

I am very disappointed with the DE.

as of now they haven't found buyers for Nathan, Artur, Steve Davies, Jose and big Vic. I am sure whoever wrote this drivel (didn't have the balls to put his name on this article), will be able to wind fans up with more rubbish like this, there are a couple of WUM's who post on here but I think the DE writers (can not call them reporters) are the biggest WUM's and they get paid for it, talk about footballer's being overpaid !
I am very disappointed with the DE. as of now they haven't found buyers for Nathan, Artur, Steve Davies, Jose and big Vic. I am sure whoever wrote this drivel (didn't have the balls to put his name on this article), will be able to wind fans up with more rubbish like this, there are a couple of WUM's who post on here but I think the DE writers (can not call them reporters) are the biggest WUM's and they get paid for it, talk about footballer's being overpaid ! Invidia
  • Score: 0

6:59pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

bullsbags wrote:
The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening
They say we will sit down when the season is over
THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of
Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week
That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub!
What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING
If only it were that simple. Please try to keep these huge pay rises confidential. We don't want Dejan, Jack, Nat, Callum, Victor, Steve, Jay, JWP finding out or they might want a bit of the action too.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening They say we will sit down when the season is over THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub! What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING[/p][/quote]If only it were that simple. Please try to keep these huge pay rises confidential. We don't want Dejan, Jack, Nat, Callum, Victor, Steve, Jay, JWP finding out or they might want a bit of the action too. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

7:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

deepheat says...

Saints have one of the smallest squads in the EPL which hit us hard just after Christmas with injuries and despite the poor signing of Osvaldo MoPo's super saints are still better than Spurs. MP is destined for a big club and quite rightly so but going to Spurs over us would be a big mistake. He would be expected to bring the likes of Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Wanyama with him and if he lost 5/6 games by November Spurs wouldn't win the EPL and if he lost a couple more after that he wouldn't get 4th place and would be sacked by Christmas. If MoPo had any sense he would give saints one more season at least. I think Lallana & Co will stay and if it goes tits up they will go in the January transfer window.
Saints have one of the smallest squads in the EPL which hit us hard just after Christmas with injuries and despite the poor signing of Osvaldo MoPo's super saints are still better than Spurs. MP is destined for a big club and quite rightly so but going to Spurs over us would be a big mistake. He would be expected to bring the likes of Lallana, Shaw, Lovren, Wanyama with him and if he lost 5/6 games by November Spurs wouldn't win the EPL and if he lost a couple more after that he wouldn't get 4th place and would be sacked by Christmas. If MoPo had any sense he would give saints one more season at least. I think Lallana & Co will stay and if it goes tits up they will go in the January transfer window. deepheat
  • Score: 1

7:03pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

killared wrote:
Brian1 wrote:
In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ?
If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday !
Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's
You might if they get picked for the home game.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brian1[/bold] wrote: In the hole ? doesnt Sterling or Stevie G or Jordan Henderson play there ? If I was Rodgers I'd be looking to bolster his defence. Embarassing on Sunday ![/p][/quote]Embarrassing really I would love to see Skrtel and Sakho at Saint Mary's[/p][/quote]You might if they get picked for the home game. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

7:09pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
richard903 wrote:
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you !
If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that.
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints[/p][/quote]I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you ![/p][/quote]If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

7:30pm Tue 29 Apr 14

bullsbags says...

Clever Dick wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening
They say we will sit down when the season is over
THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of
Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week
That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub!
What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING
If only it were that simple. Please try to keep these huge pay rises confidential. We don't want Dejan, Jack, Nat, Callum, Victor, Steve, Jay, JWP finding out or they might want a bit of the action too.
Fair point
I would rather give the majority of the squad an improved contract and spend less on new blood
We all know we need a keeper a centre back and a new striker/wide player but we will have TV money,prem prize money,season tkt/tkt sales new shirt sponsor and money saved by offloading one or two
IT MUST BE DOABLE
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: The silence coming out of St Mary's is deafening They say we will sit down when the season is over THE SEASON IS OVER we will finish 8th,end of Give Adam,Luke and spider another 30 grand a week That represents about half the money received for finishing 8th,it's not exactly going to bankrupt the cub! What I find disturbing is neither Adam,Luke or MOPO have said they ARE DEFFO STAYING[/p][/quote]If only it were that simple. Please try to keep these huge pay rises confidential. We don't want Dejan, Jack, Nat, Callum, Victor, Steve, Jay, JWP finding out or they might want a bit of the action too.[/p][/quote]Fair point I would rather give the majority of the squad an improved contract and spend less on new blood We all know we need a keeper a centre back and a new striker/wide player but we will have TV money,prem prize money,season tkt/tkt sales new shirt sponsor and money saved by offloading one or two IT MUST BE DOABLE bullsbags
  • Score: 0

7:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
richard903 wrote:
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you !
If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that.
Mind you, how embarrassing is it to be spell checked by a scouser? I had to spell check 'embarrassing', lucky I did I only had one r!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints[/p][/quote]I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you ![/p][/quote]If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that.[/p][/quote]Mind you, how embarrassing is it to be spell checked by a scouser? I had to spell check 'embarrassing', lucky I did I only had one r! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

7:57pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs! Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 4

8:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

redandy10 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer! redandy10
  • Score: -8

8:10pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redandy10 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
Bayern are 2 down, 3 down on aggregate, just in case you are interested.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer![/p][/quote]Bayern are 2 down, 3 down on aggregate, just in case you are interested. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

8:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
richard903 wrote:
I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints
I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you !
If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that.
Mind you, how embarrassing is it to be spell checked by a scouser? I had to spell check 'embarrassing', lucky I did I only had one r!
Thats propor imbarissssing, Ozpray, that iz.

Meanwhile, I think I know why the club and players are all saying they'll have to wait until the Summer, not only are most of them preparing for Brazil, they're also far too busy rolling about in fits of laughter at all the cr4p Daily Hate articles that the DE seem to love so much.

I mean, seriously, £15m for Adam ...........



.............. hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahaha
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: I dont think he would fit in at Liverpool, he plays in a simular role to Gerard , I dont think it would work, he also has no idea how to steal hub caps . Up the saints[/p][/quote]I suggest you learn to spell ( the word similar ) by going back to school, they might even teach you not to use offensive language when talking about people who are better than you ![/p][/quote]If you want to be part of the Spelling and Grammar Police on this site, you first have to swear allegiance to SFC, no outsiders are allowed to interefere, sorry about that.[/p][/quote]Mind you, how embarrassing is it to be spell checked by a scouser? I had to spell check 'embarrassing', lucky I did I only had one r![/p][/quote]Thats propor imbarissssing, Ozpray, that iz. Meanwhile, I think I know why the club and players are all saying they'll have to wait until the Summer, not only are most of them preparing for Brazil, they're also far too busy rolling about in fits of laughter at all the cr4p Daily Hate articles that the DE seem to love so much. I mean, seriously, £15m for Adam ........... .............. hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Tue 29 Apr 14

DisplacedFan says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
A whinger would be more accurate.
No it wouldn't.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger![/p][/quote]A whinger would be more accurate.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 0

8:21pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
Grief! You do sarcasm, too? That must come in handy during those long, cold winter evenings.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer![/p][/quote]Grief! You do sarcasm, too? That must come in handy during those long, cold winter evenings. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 4

8:23pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered.
Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
A whinger would be more accurate.
No it wouldn't.
No it wouldn't happen at all.
[quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger![/p][/quote]A whinger would be more accurate.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't happen at all. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Tue 29 Apr 14

up saints says...

think the main word in this post is LINKED this word will pop up alot from now until next season
think the main word in this post is LINKED this word will pop up alot from now until next season up saints
  • Score: 1

8:47pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered.
looks like a graduate of the saints academy is going to the champs league final then!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered.[/p][/quote]looks like a graduate of the saints academy is going to the champs league final then! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered.
looks like a graduate of the saints academy is going to the champs league final then!
It does indeed, Xabi Alonso won't be, daft yellow card sees him out of it.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Real 3 up now Bayern getting mullered.[/p][/quote]looks like a graduate of the saints academy is going to the champs league final then![/p][/quote]It does indeed, Xabi Alonso won't be, daft yellow card sees him out of it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

arfer phesache says...

redandy10 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
Andy Paterson you can be so cutting !
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer![/p][/quote]Andy Paterson you can be so cutting ! arfer phesache
  • Score: 1

8:59pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

arfer phesache wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
Andy Paterson you can be so cutting !
What would a famous Scottish Film Producer be doing, trolling on a football discussion site?
[quote][p][bold]arfer phesache[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer![/p][/quote]Andy Paterson you can be so cutting ![/p][/quote]What would a famous Scottish Film Producer be doing, trolling on a football discussion site? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:04pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.express.c
o.uk/sport/football/
473107/EXCLUSIVE-Sou
thampton-must-fight-
Spurs-interest-in-Ma
uricio-Pochettino-Ri
ckie-Lambert

Hello, even Rickie is jumping on the bandwagon.
http://www.express.c o.uk/sport/football/ 473107/EXCLUSIVE-Sou thampton-must-fight- Spurs-interest-in-Ma uricio-Pochettino-Ri ckie-Lambert Hello, even Rickie is jumping on the bandwagon. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:08pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

redandy10 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves.

Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away.

Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs!
Jeez indeed Bill!
Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb.

I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all.

You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer!
Billy Pulitzer...I like that. I reckon that could stick. Cheers Blue! ;O)
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: All our players "are being linked" with moves. MP and his coaching staff "are being linked" with moves. Our Club has stated that all discussions will take place in the close season. Hence, the real story is weeks/months away. Get a grip DE. Please break the mould and try to go get some solid facts to fill your sports columns with. This is not journalism. Jeez...even I could fill a back page with the carppy rumours I read on twitter ffs![/p][/quote]Jeez indeed Bill! Well Nobody reading your impassioned post reading could possibly accuse you of being a boring pleb. I'm off to sit at the kitchen table and spend the evening mulling over your observations on the standards of journalism on this site. If anyone knows about true journalism it would be you. What with your Pulitzer Prize win, an all. You heard him DE get a grip, or face another public dressing down from Billy Pulitzer![/p][/quote]Billy Pulitzer...I like that. I reckon that could stick. Cheers Blue! ;O) Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 4

9:14pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

So basically what the NEWSpapers are reporting is that there is no news at all and there won't be any news coming out of the club till the close season. Anything and everything else is pure rumour and hearsay. I don't think they are gonna sell too many papers printing that every day.
So basically what the NEWSpapers are reporting is that there is no news at all and there won't be any news coming out of the club till the close season. Anything and everything else is pure rumour and hearsay. I don't think they are gonna sell too many papers printing that every day. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

9:31pm Tue 29 Apr 14

In search of the truth. says...

brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/List_of_foo
tball_clubs_in_Engla
nd_by_major_honours_
won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
[quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be. In search of the truth.
  • Score: -7

9:35pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/List_of_foo

tball_clubs_in_Engla

nd_by_major_honours_

won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Historically speaking perhaps, that's all behind us now.
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Historically speaking perhaps, that's all behind us now. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:36pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ronaldo gets his 2nd and makes it 4 0.
Ronaldo gets his 2nd and makes it 4 0. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:38pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

4 0 FT Bayern will need a real Pep talk after that.
4 0 FT Bayern will need a real Pep talk after that. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:55pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Birmingham lost 1 0 to Wigan, are in the deep do do's.
Birmingham lost 1 0 to Wigan, are in the deep do do's. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:06pm Tue 29 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/List_of_foo

tball_clubs_in_Engla

nd_by_major_honours_

won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:22pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Invidia says...

Someone on here earlier said that MoPo was in London having talks with Spurs, well according to the bookies De Boer is going to take over Spurs at the end of the season and it's a done deal, My Chinese Whisper is that MoPo was in London checking out Townsend, well we can all start silly rumours can't we?
Someone on here earlier said that MoPo was in London having talks with Spurs, well according to the bookies De Boer is going to take over Spurs at the end of the season and it's a done deal, My Chinese Whisper is that MoPo was in London checking out Townsend, well we can all start silly rumours can't we? Invidia
  • Score: 0

10:23pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/List_of_foo


tball_clubs_in_Engla


nd_by_major_honours_


won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

10:25pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
4 0 FT Bayern will need a real Pep talk after that.
despite being desperate for goals, even early on, bryan couldn't leave men up to `lump it up to` and had to continue to play it neatly around with Arjen Robben and Franck Ribéry as their main outlets. whilst both are good at dribbling and diving for free kicks they are both over 30 and are lacking any real pace, which bryan really needed.
Real Madrid on the other hand were able to attack at will, again no real `frontman` to hit but bale and Ronaldo had room, because bryan had pushed up, and pace galore. madrids 3rd goal was a classic example of that. bale really looks the business in European football and he learnt his trade at the acclaimed SFC academy, another great advert for our academy which will have kids queuing up to join, meaning we will continue to have the pick of the bunch.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 4 0 FT Bayern will need a real Pep talk after that.[/p][/quote]despite being desperate for goals, even early on, bryan couldn't leave men up to `lump it up to` and had to continue to play it neatly around with Arjen Robben and Franck Ribéry as their main outlets. whilst both are good at dribbling and diving for free kicks they are both over 30 and are lacking any real pace, which bryan really needed. Real Madrid on the other hand were able to attack at will, again no real `frontman` to hit but bale and Ronaldo had room, because bryan had pushed up, and pace galore. madrids 3rd goal was a classic example of that. bale really looks the business in European football and he learnt his trade at the acclaimed SFC academy, another great advert for our academy which will have kids queuing up to join, meaning we will continue to have the pick of the bunch. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 0

10:41pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.



org/wiki/List_of_foo



tball_clubs_in_Engla



nd_by_major_honours_



won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool.
using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.[/p][/quote]looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool. using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

10:49pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/List_of_foo

tball_clubs_in_Engla

nd_by_major_honours_

won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Whoa! Skunt alert! Smell that rotting fish reek!
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Whoa! Skunt alert! Smell that rotting fish reek! Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

10:59pm Tue 29 Apr 14

In search of the truth. says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.




org/wiki/List_of_foo




tball_clubs_in_Engla




nd_by_major_honours_




won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool.
using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim!
If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.[/p][/quote]looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool. using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim![/p][/quote]If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year. In search of the truth.
  • Score: -3

11:24pm Tue 29 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.





org/wiki/List_of_foo





tball_clubs_in_Engla





nd_by_major_honours_





won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool.
using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim!
If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.
yes other clubs are classed as world class clubs, diverpool are not in that class anymore. diverpool are now known for their fans unwillingness to accept that they are no longer classed as a `world beater`. they are not in the same group as barce, real, bryan, manure, and even chelski a mancy anymore, and as everybody knows if it weren't for the bucked tooth bitesman they wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the table. this was diverpools one chance to win the league and they blew it!
oh and I never claimed that saints are in that group, so you should be the one who `grows up` and realises that diverpool are a spent force in world football.
you are the one who claimed history proves you are a big club, I just pointed out that clubs such as wanderers could also make that claim based on their history!
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.[/p][/quote]looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool. using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim![/p][/quote]If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.[/p][/quote]yes other clubs are classed as world class clubs, diverpool are not in that class anymore. diverpool are now known for their fans unwillingness to accept that they are no longer classed as a `world beater`. they are not in the same group as barce, real, bryan, manure, and even chelski a mancy anymore, and as everybody knows if it weren't for the bucked tooth bitesman they wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the table. this was diverpools one chance to win the league and they blew it! oh and I never claimed that saints are in that group, so you should be the one who `grows up` and realises that diverpool are a spent force in world football. you are the one who claimed history proves you are a big club, I just pointed out that clubs such as wanderers could also make that claim based on their history! el caballo santos101
  • Score: -2

11:49pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.





org/wiki/List_of_foo





tball_clubs_in_Engla





nd_by_major_honours_





won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool.
using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim!
If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.
We're big in Japan ...............


........... oh, that was Alphaville wasn't it.

Anyway, as you seem to love the truth, the truth is that you're turning somewhat insolent and boring.

I love my team; apart from loving yourself, what exactly do you love, I wonder.
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.[/p][/quote]looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool. using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim![/p][/quote]If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.[/p][/quote]We're big in Japan ............... ........... oh, that was Alphaville wasn't it. Anyway, as you seem to love the truth, the truth is that you're turning somewhat insolent and boring. I love my team; apart from loving yourself, what exactly do you love, I wonder. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 0

11:58pm Tue 29 Apr 14

SaintSteve76 says...

Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did.
Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did. SaintSteve76
  • Score: 0

2:00am Wed 30 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
A whinger would be more accurate.
No it wouldn't.
No it wouldn't happen at all.
She's off to ManU.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger![/p][/quote]A whinger would be more accurate.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't happen at all.[/p][/quote]She's off to ManU. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

2:22am Wed 30 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

SaintSteve76 wrote:
Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did.
You seem to be suggesting that the board is stupid. Why do you think that?
[quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote: Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did.[/p][/quote]You seem to be suggesting that the board is stupid. Why do you think that? Rising_Son
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6:36am Wed 30 Apr 14

rossofficial10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
SaintSteve76 wrote:
Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did.
You seem to be suggesting that the board is stupid. Why do you think that?
i agree with original post. we need to keep lallana and sign 3 players in the window.

and the board need to put sign up poch and increase wages of our key players asap.

how real is the liverpool rumours anyway or is it rubbish?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintSteve76[/bold] wrote: Sorry to put put a negative spin on this but it just seems to me that when Cortese was our chairman the players were continually having it drummed into them the vision of the football club, including signing high profile players such as Osvaldo, Ramirez, Lovren, Wanyama etc, on high wages in order for us to become champions league qualification contenders in the next year or two. Pochettino joined us because of this vision which was sold to him by Cortese. Unfortunately I get the sense that this is no longer the case due to the constant speculation, unconvincing comments from Lallana in particular, and Ralph commenting that the club needs to live within its means etc etc. The fact is if we can keep this team together all I feel that we need to become a top five team either next season or the season after is another center back, a back up left back, and a top striker. This summer is massive for the club and I really hope the board realise the potential and hold firm.Shaw, Lovren, Chambers, Clyne, Wanyama, Cork, Schneiderlin, Ramirez, Ward-Prowse Lallana, Rodriguez, and Gallagher are all 25 and under and are all only going to get better. with Pochettino as manager the potential is massive. I just hope the board can see this like Cortese did.[/p][/quote]You seem to be suggesting that the board is stupid. Why do you think that?[/p][/quote]i agree with original post. we need to keep lallana and sign 3 players in the window. and the board need to put sign up poch and increase wages of our key players asap. how real is the liverpool rumours anyway or is it rubbish? rossofficial10
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9:36am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
DisplacedFan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left?
Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too...
Jeez...
And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger!
A whinger would be more accurate.
No it wouldn't.
No it wouldn't happen at all.
She's off to ManU.
Well Rooney and Giggs do have a bit of a reputation!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DisplacedFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: So the same national paper which was comprehensively WRONG on every single story they made up about us after NC left? Seriously, there's an agenda going on here. Les Reed's statement hasn't been reported in the national press, bar a tiny side story somewhere, yet we're to believe that Chambers, Shaw, Morgan, Adam, Jay-Rod, Lovren are all off to pastures new? So we'll be playing with about 6 players, and then what? Oh , that's right, MoPo is leaving to take over Spurs, who are chasing the same thing as us, and without Bale are ordinary, but yeah, he's off too... Jeez...[/p][/quote]And the little old lady on the motorized wheelchair in Pompey is also going to Liverpool as a winger![/p][/quote]A whinger would be more accurate.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't.[/p][/quote]No it wouldn't happen at all.[/p][/quote]She's off to ManU.[/p][/quote]Well Rooney and Giggs do have a bit of a reputation! OSPREYSAINT
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9:40am Wed 30 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

In search of the truth. wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
In search of the truth. wrote:
brent clifton wrote:
No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.
Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves.
You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org

http://en.wikipedia.





org/wiki/List_of_foo





tball_clubs_in_Engla





nd_by_major_honours_





won

Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.
Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you!
Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.
looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool.
using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim!
If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.
It is no good preaching historic facts at us, we look at the present and seek a succesful future, old Trophies and memories won't help anyone in that respect. Buying Trophies will only lead to disaster, it has to be done sensibly nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In search of the truth.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brent clifton[/bold] wrote: No point in going - Liverpool are a one-season wonder and a mid-table side at very best. Should they win the title then just like Leeds and Blackburn they will likely be an utter embarrsment representing England in Europe as our champions and will be relegated to the championship before too many years have passed at all. Better off with Saints by far.[/p][/quote]Liverpool are way ahead of Southampton when it comes being a successful football club and the records speak for themselves. You appear to be completely ignorant , when it comes to which football teams are the most successful. In order to educate yourself and others I would recommend the following article on Wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_foo tball_clubs_in_Engla nd_by_major_honours_ won Even Portsmouth, Southampton's arch rivals are way ahead of Southampton and probably always will be.[/p][/quote]Isott - Looks like we are the only ones left on here, it seems someone has bored everyone else witless and they have all gone to bed, and I bet it wasn't you![/p][/quote]Hello!!!!! I'm still here. Isott is obviously still trawling around looking for it. Judging by the sh1t he posts he is still a long way from finding it.[/p][/quote]looks like poopey and diverpool fans have something in common, their love of history. what both don't tell you though when they say they are a `big club` because of their histories is that forest must still be a massive club, after all they did win the European cup twice, also preston NE are still a big club as are Huddersfield Town and wanderers, no not Bolton though they are still a `big club`, no just wanderers. ok wanderers were only around between 1859 and 1887 (reformed 2009) but they won 5 FA cups in their time, 3 in a row. this record clearly beats poopeys record and must mean they are a bigger club, Liverpool only have 2 more FA cup wins than them but that's over 122 years whilst wanderers wins were over just 28 years, or 5.6 years per FA cup for wanderers whilst its 17.4 years per win for diverpool. using history to try to prove you are a `big club` can be flawed so be careful what you claim![/p][/quote]If you bothered to look at the millions upon millions of fans across the world that support clubs such as Liverpool and Man United then you would realise how utterly ridiculous your argument is. Grow up and accept the facts that are staring you in the face ! Southampton may be big in Southampton but they haven't really ever won much in their entire history, other teams however are classed as world class clubs and rightly deserve recognition for honours earned year on year.[/p][/quote]It is no good preaching historic facts at us, we look at the present and seek a succesful future, old Trophies and memories won't help anyone in that respect. Buying Trophies will only lead to disaster, it has to be done sensibly nowadays. OSPREYSAINT
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10:18am Wed 30 Apr 14

Gary Clark says...

Les Reed made a statement last week regarding the speculation mounting at Saint's regarding both the manger and players, whilst it was nice to hear them comments from somebody within the club only time will tell. Both players and manger have already publicly stated they want to stay at Southampton Football club, end of? I know every player/manger has there price and after an outstanding season it's no surprise the vultures are lurking around our club as always. There is no doubt that it is a massive summer for Southampton Football Club! and to me all the pressure is on the board and the owner, Southampton Football Club's long term future lies heavily on there shoulders, in terms of budgets and keeping the best players at this club as well as the manager. I think the board should wait to the end of the season as we can concentrate fully on the last few games of the current season, then they can make there future intentions become crystal clear sooner rather than later. coyr coyr Saint's forever and ever no matter. what. once a Saint, alway's a Saint.
Les Reed made a statement last week regarding the speculation mounting at Saint's regarding both the manger and players, whilst it was nice to hear them comments from somebody within the club only time will tell. Both players and manger have already publicly stated they want to stay at Southampton Football club, end of? I know every player/manger has there price and after an outstanding season it's no surprise the vultures are lurking around our club as always. There is no doubt that it is a massive summer for Southampton Football Club! and to me all the pressure is on the board and the owner, Southampton Football Club's long term future lies heavily on there shoulders, in terms of budgets and keeping the best players at this club as well as the manager. I think the board should wait to the end of the season as we can concentrate fully on the last few games of the current season, then they can make there future intentions become crystal clear sooner rather than later. coyr coyr Saint's forever and ever no matter. what. once a Saint, alway's a Saint. Gary Clark
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11:28am Wed 30 Apr 14

Beer Monster says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Birmingham lost 1 0 to Wigan, are in the deep do do's.
Their only saving grace is that Donny are away to Leicester, and they'll be wanting to break the 100 point barrier...

Aren't relegation dogfights so much more fun when your team isn't involved? :-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Birmingham lost 1 0 to Wigan, are in the deep do do's.[/p][/quote]Their only saving grace is that Donny are away to Leicester, and they'll be wanting to break the 100 point barrier... Aren't relegation dogfights so much more fun when your team isn't involved? :-) Beer Monster
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9:48am Thu 1 May 14

Blackknight says...

If Manure were willing to pay £27.5 million for Fellaini, then what's Adam Lallana worth? A lot, lot more than the derisory £15 million Liverpool bid being reported all across the press.

If Adam makes it to Brazil an does well his price will rocket upwards. £30 million plus at least.
If Manure were willing to pay £27.5 million for Fellaini, then what's Adam Lallana worth? A lot, lot more than the derisory £15 million Liverpool bid being reported all across the press. If Adam makes it to Brazil an does well his price will rocket upwards. £30 million plus at least. Blackknight
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