Osvaldo on his way back to Saints?

Daily Echo: Dani Osvaldo Dani Osvaldo

Dani Osvaldo could tonight take a major step towards picking up domestic and European title honours – but the Saints record signing still faces an uncertain future.

The 28-year-old Italian striker is just one result away from claiming a Serie A title winner’s medal with Juventus.

Tonight he and his colleagues aim to overturn a 2-1 first leg deficit against Benfica for a place in the Europa League final.

Osvaldo is on loan with the Italian giants after being bombed out by Saints following his training ground bust up with Jose Fonte.

There is no sense of a softening of the mood towards Osvaldo at St Mary’s and his days seem numbered.

However, it is believed Juventus have no wish to exercise their £15m option to sign the bad boy permanently at the end of the season.

Instead, they are said to be preparing for a complete overhaul of their attacking options this summer.

It could all result in Saints having to find a fresh buyer for Osvaldo – and, in all likelihood, make a significant loss on the man they splashed out €15m on just under a year ago.

Juventus brought in Osvaldo to bolster their attacking options, striking a deal with Saints that suited all parties as the club looked to shift him out the door quickly at the end of the January transfer window to maintain dressing room harmony.

However, it looks like Saints could be saddled with the same problems again fairly shortly.

There seems no way back for him at St Mary’s and, with that in mind, and a not particularly glittering 2013/14 which has seen Osvaldo score just five goals and have fresh questions raised as to his character, his value is likely to have fallen.

It will leave Mauricio Pochettino and Les Reed, who confirmed last week he is overseeing transfer policy in conjunction with the manager, with a big problem.

Assuming there is no early bid for Osvaldo this summer, they may attempt to leave the situation on the backburner for a month or so.

Osvaldo, despite his poor goals record this season, is likely to be away with Italy at the World Cup.

Saints will desperately hope he performs well and that stokes up interest in him to bump up his value.

It is, though, a longer term distraction they don’t need as the club face a pivotal summer.

They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players.

To move Osvaldo on and recoup some costs could have a major impact on Pochettino’s spending power and, in turn, the futures of some of his star players who have publically declared they wish to see the board spend. If that does not happen, Saints run the risk of losing one or two of their brightest talents if big offers come in.

Osvaldo’s future could yet impact on that if Saints can make a quick and successful sale.

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7:07am Thu 1 May 14

Rising_Son says...

"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget.

Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse. Rising_Son
  • Score: 18

7:13am Thu 1 May 14

Chipster says...

Just get rid at the earliest opportunity!
Just get rid at the earliest opportunity! Chipster
  • Score: 16

7:30am Thu 1 May 14

Tubbystubb says...

Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place.
Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill.
As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place. Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill. As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid! Tubbystubb
  • Score: 31

7:42am Thu 1 May 14

Saintsayer II says...

Do you think this is the Echo's idea of a 'good news' story ?
Just promise his agent half of any transfer fee over what we paid and he'll be of the shelf like hot cakes
Do you think this is the Echo's idea of a 'good news' story ? Just promise his agent half of any transfer fee over what we paid and he'll be of the shelf like hot cakes Saintsayer II
  • Score: 8

7:45am Thu 1 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Tubbystubb wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place.
Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill.
As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid!
I shouldn't think this "windfall" is unexpected. I'm sure it has been included in our budget planning for some time.

My comment was simply to make the point that we don't necessarily have to cough up the £27m all in one go. There are ways around it. (One of them is to try and sell Osvaldo, and recoup at least part of that debt.)
[quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place. Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill. As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid![/p][/quote]I shouldn't think this "windfall" is unexpected. I'm sure it has been included in our budget planning for some time. My comment was simply to make the point that we don't necessarily have to cough up the £27m all in one go. There are ways around it. (One of them is to try and sell Osvaldo, and recoup at least part of that debt.) Rising_Son
  • Score: 9

7:54am Thu 1 May 14

andrew.smith291@yahoo.com says...

i would rather there be a settled team then let osvad back in the club . sacrafic him for a lose and keep our main players happy even if it means we don't buy any players and bring up youth academy players instead.take the pressure off of manager give him new contract ext then see what happens next season.we can not lose what team we have .remember poch has done well give him some room to breath he seem to get the best out of players with his style i think.
i would rather there be a settled team then let osvad back in the club . sacrafic him for a lose and keep our main players happy even if it means we don't buy any players and bring up youth academy players instead.take the pressure off of manager give him new contract ext then see what happens next season.we can not lose what team we have .remember poch has done well give him some room to breath he seem to get the best out of players with his style i think. andrew.smith291@yahoo.com
  • Score: 9

8:06am Thu 1 May 14

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

Gutter Press !!!
Gutter Press !!! CHARLIE TAYLOR
  • Score: 9

8:16am Thu 1 May 14

saint phil says...

So he had a punch-up with a team !. Whats the big deal.
So he had a punch-up with a team !. Whats the big deal. saint phil
  • Score: -17

8:43am Thu 1 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Bring back dani
He is the best striker we have
Bring back dani He is the best striker we have Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -30

8:50am Thu 1 May 14

derek james says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Bring back dani
He is the best striker we have
most sensible comment, he reminds me a bit of osgood, a bit of a bad boy but oozed talent
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Bring back dani He is the best striker we have[/p][/quote]most sensible comment, he reminds me a bit of osgood, a bit of a bad boy but oozed talent derek james
  • Score: -21

8:55am Thu 1 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

How many games does he have to of played to get a championship medal?
Does he qualify?
How many games does he have to of played to get a championship medal? Does he qualify? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 0

9:03am Thu 1 May 14

warrens 76 says...

It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa…

Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception …

We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.
It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa… Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception … We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us. warrens 76
  • Score: -10

9:05am Thu 1 May 14

STARK88 says...

Walker could be out of contention,,come in Nathaniel Clyne
Walker could be out of contention,,come in Nathaniel Clyne STARK88
  • Score: 25

9:06am Thu 1 May 14

STARK88 says...

Walker could be out of contention,come in Nat Clyne
Walker could be out of contention,come in Nat Clyne STARK88
  • Score: 14

9:07am Thu 1 May 14

Puddletown Saint says...

Before you give me the thumbs down, think about what I am going to say.
Take out the emotion and think of our club. Now, if we are honest none of us know our financial position. If it is bad, then we may have a summer of discontent.
But instead of losing our stars let get in a couple of good frees in Kasper Schmeichel and Aaron Hunt. Welcome Dani back into the fold (he is an Italian international ffs) and get Gaston fit and with the money we will have buy a good centre back such as Caulker or Shawcross.
This will feel like 5 new players and in the only positions we really need strengthening.
Our big buys have not been our best. Dump our fringe players (Sharp, Barny, Guly, Forte, Kelvin, Fox, Hoover and Mayuka) with the utmost gratitude to free the wages.
Aim then for next season is consolidation with TWO good cup runs. Let’s all manage our expectations but keep the dream alive  COYR.
Before you give me the thumbs down, think about what I am going to say. Take out the emotion and think of our club. Now, if we are honest none of us know our financial position. If it is bad, then we may have a summer of discontent. But instead of losing our stars let get in a couple of good frees in Kasper Schmeichel and Aaron Hunt. Welcome Dani back into the fold (he is an Italian international ffs) and get Gaston fit and with the money we will have buy a good centre back such as Caulker or Shawcross. This will feel like 5 new players and in the only positions we really need strengthening. Our big buys have not been our best. Dump our fringe players (Sharp, Barny, Guly, Forte, Kelvin, Fox, Hoover and Mayuka) with the utmost gratitude to free the wages. Aim then for next season is consolidation with TWO good cup runs. Let’s all manage our expectations but keep the dream alive  COYR. Puddletown Saint
  • Score: 29

9:11am Thu 1 May 14

adamello says...

Shock Return??

He's still one of our players
Shock Return?? He's still one of our players adamello
  • Score: 7

9:13am Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

warrens 76 wrote:
It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa…

Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception …

We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.
I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa… Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception … We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.[/p][/quote]I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

9:34am Thu 1 May 14

tricky19791 says...

April falls day was last mount not today!!! Bottom of the barrel story.
April falls day was last mount not today!!! Bottom of the barrel story. tricky19791
  • Score: -13

9:34am Thu 1 May 14

Blackknight says...

Why did Saints buy him in the first place?
Why did Saints buy him in the first place? Blackknight
  • Score: -2

9:36am Thu 1 May 14

Alicesdad says...

The beardy boy will never play for Saints again.

Once Juventus use the return to sender envelope there will be other clubs that are prepared to take him on loan which will reduce our wages bill and eventually we will get a much reduced fee for him from some other club probably in Italy.

I also expect that at least one of our stars will be sold. It's a shame because it will ring the end of the unique team spirit that got us to where we are now. Its up to the manager to deal with that and build a revived spirit with any new players. He can do it I'm sure.

Or maybe we will all be surpised and there will be major spending and big suprise signings .... but somehow I doubt it. The Osvaldo lesson will have burned the owners fingers slightly and the new board will be more cautious than ever.

But we are still EIGHTH !! We are still PREMIERSHIP and above all we are still SAINTS !!
The beardy boy will never play for Saints again. Once Juventus use the return to sender envelope there will be other clubs that are prepared to take him on loan which will reduce our wages bill and eventually we will get a much reduced fee for him from some other club probably in Italy. I also expect that at least one of our stars will be sold. It's a shame because it will ring the end of the unique team spirit that got us to where we are now. Its up to the manager to deal with that and build a revived spirit with any new players. He can do it I'm sure. Or maybe we will all be surpised and there will be major spending and big suprise signings .... but somehow I doubt it. The Osvaldo lesson will have burned the owners fingers slightly and the new board will be more cautious than ever. But we are still EIGHTH !! We are still PREMIERSHIP and above all we are still SAINTS !! Alicesdad
  • Score: 8

9:36am Thu 1 May 14

Jesus_02 says...

Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either?

There is more to come from Osvaldo
Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either? There is more to come from Osvaldo Jesus_02
  • Score: 12

9:39am Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either?

There is more to come from Osvaldo
Juve don't think so otherwise they would exercise their option to buy clause.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either? There is more to come from Osvaldo[/p][/quote]Juve don't think so otherwise they would exercise their option to buy clause. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

9:40am Thu 1 May 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa…

Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception …

We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.
I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week.
So do I. And what is going to be his state of mind if he doesn't get picked for Italy in the WC ? Woeful and explosive come to mind. He may just sulk and see out his contract here with loans back to Italy and Spain now and again. A financial millstone around our necks.

I think we need to get shot of him and cut our losses.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa… Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception … We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.[/p][/quote]I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week.[/p][/quote]So do I. And what is going to be his state of mind if he doesn't get picked for Italy in the WC ? Woeful and explosive come to mind. He may just sulk and see out his contract here with loans back to Italy and Spain now and again. A financial millstone around our necks. I think we need to get shot of him and cut our losses. george chivers
  • Score: 7

9:42am Thu 1 May 14

Malcombe says...

I've been a Southampton Supporter for over 40 years and this season has been an education and a first regarding selection to what Players play in the next match, I did not know that Team Coaches often select the Players by the way they train during the week I thought it was a forgone conclusion. I've often heard Mauricio say that a certain Player had a good training session and he was preferred to X Player and perhaps this is the reason Dani has not been in the first team at Juventus, he could be a Player who shirks and hates Training even though he knows it part of his job.

Sadly he is a bad Apple at Southampton but when Mauricio and Nicola decided they wanted him Mauricio in particular knew him having had him at Espanyol and perhaps Dani did a normal days work and while he was under MoPo's watch he gave 100% even though it was admitted Dani had a fight in the Dressing room with a Team mate before he came to Southampton, possibly it was assumed it was a mad moment and wouldn't happen again . .

I understand that skilled and gifted Players that are consistent when playing and playing well are automatic selections but the Players still have to show they like there job and it proves they must train hard and and enjoy there work.

Unfortunately Dani cooked his Goose by punching Jose Fonte and it affected the unity that MoPo has created with the Squad who he considers is an addition to his family, Dani broke the bond and cannot be trusted again and because of his reputation it will affect Southampton financially and his valuation will of dropped, maybe Sam at West Ham who has a reputation for controlling volatile Players could calm him and he could prove to be the bargain of the season for West Ham but he will go with a big financial loss to Southampton
I've been a Southampton Supporter for over 40 years and this season has been an education and a first regarding selection to what Players play in the next match, I did not know that Team Coaches often select the Players by the way they train during the week I thought it was a forgone conclusion. I've often heard Mauricio say that a certain Player had a good training session and he was preferred to X Player and perhaps this is the reason Dani has not been in the first team at Juventus, he could be a Player who shirks and hates Training even though he knows it part of his job. Sadly he is a bad Apple at Southampton but when Mauricio and Nicola decided they wanted him Mauricio in particular knew him having had him at Espanyol and perhaps Dani did a normal days work and while he was under MoPo's watch he gave 100% even though it was admitted Dani had a fight in the Dressing room with a Team mate before he came to Southampton, possibly it was assumed it was a mad moment and wouldn't happen again . . I understand that skilled and gifted Players that are consistent when playing and playing well are automatic selections but the Players still have to show they like there job and it proves they must train hard and and enjoy there work. Unfortunately Dani cooked his Goose by punching Jose Fonte and it affected the unity that MoPo has created with the Squad who he considers is an addition to his family, Dani broke the bond and cannot be trusted again and because of his reputation it will affect Southampton financially and his valuation will of dropped, maybe Sam at West Ham who has a reputation for controlling volatile Players could calm him and he could prove to be the bargain of the season for West Ham but he will go with a big financial loss to Southampton Malcombe
  • Score: 9

9:46am Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

9:49am Thu 1 May 14

Chipmonk1 says...

On a different tack. Seeing as this one has been done to death. For those poo-pooing talk of Saints in the Champions League look at what Atletico have achieved. They play a similar style to us under MoPo and aren't dripping with "stars" either. I took a lot of heart from their result as it shows that just because you're a club that's not supposed to doesn't mean you have to be a club that can't. As far as DO is concerned if the team are happy to have him back so am I.
On a different tack. Seeing as this one has been done to death. For those poo-pooing talk of Saints in the Champions League look at what Atletico have achieved. They play a similar style to us under MoPo and aren't dripping with "stars" either. I took a lot of heart from their result as it shows that just because you're a club that's not supposed to doesn't mean you have to be a club that can't. As far as DO is concerned if the team are happy to have him back so am I. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 18

9:59am Thu 1 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

Osvaldo was brought in to raise the quality of the players on show at Saints. He is an Italian International but clearly a bit troubled and not the right fit in the Saints squad. That said his experience should still warrant a £10m plus bid.

Most people are forgetting that Saints' shirt sponsorship is up in the summer so we will be looking for a new partner. By finishing 8th in the Premiership we can expect this to be a bigger name than aap3 and for a lot more money. I don't think the £27m owing will be too much of a problem hence why it has been said no players need to be sold in the summer that we want to keep!
Osvaldo was brought in to raise the quality of the players on show at Saints. He is an Italian International but clearly a bit troubled and not the right fit in the Saints squad. That said his experience should still warrant a £10m plus bid. Most people are forgetting that Saints' shirt sponsorship is up in the summer so we will be looking for a new partner. By finishing 8th in the Premiership we can expect this to be a bigger name than aap3 and for a lot more money. I don't think the £27m owing will be too much of a problem hence why it has been said no players need to be sold in the summer that we want to keep! allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 14

10:00am Thu 1 May 14

warrens 76 says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either?

There is more to come from Osvaldo
i agree.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: Wasnt there no way back for Puncheon either? There is more to come from Osvaldo[/p][/quote]i agree. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

10:00am Thu 1 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

As for Clyne being in the England squad...Hodgson has already said there won't be any surprises and no one will be called up who hasn't been in any previous squads. We are more likely to only take 1 right back with Jones / Smalling going to cover that position for injuries.
As for Clyne being in the England squad...Hodgson has already said there won't be any surprises and no one will be called up who hasn't been in any previous squads. We are more likely to only take 1 right back with Jones / Smalling going to cover that position for injuries. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: -2

10:01am Thu 1 May 14

Chicago Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that? Chicago Saint
  • Score: 9

10:02am Thu 1 May 14

Salalal says...

As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season.
As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season. Salalal
  • Score: 1

10:05am Thu 1 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

If he came back - forgiven by the players and coaches - I'd accept him. If, as seems most likely right now, he never played for Saints again, I wouldn't be bothered. It would just be a sorry end to a sorry saga.

As for £16m he cost, I doubt if we'd get it all back but that's football. How much more valuable is (and has been) Rickie than the £1m he cost? Money always counts but let's not get too wound up about it; we're not about to do a Portsmouth.

As for all the sensational talk about this £27m loss, it was always managed and is tiny by comparison with other financial matters going on at the club (gate money, TV money, transfers in and out, salaries etc.).

All said and done, the only two good things about this article are:
1. It's not about a rumour heard at the back of Tesco that one of the first team have already signed for Barcalona.
2. It gives us a chance to discuss matters at SMS.

Meanwhile, on the subject of overpaid, spoilt footballers with a tarnished reputation, how good was it to see John Terry in tears last night?
If he came back - forgiven by the players and coaches - I'd accept him. If, as seems most likely right now, he never played for Saints again, I wouldn't be bothered. It would just be a sorry end to a sorry saga. As for £16m he cost, I doubt if we'd get it all back but that's football. How much more valuable is (and has been) Rickie than the £1m he cost? Money always counts but let's not get too wound up about it; we're not about to do a Portsmouth. As for all the sensational talk about this £27m loss, it was always managed and is tiny by comparison with other financial matters going on at the club (gate money, TV money, transfers in and out, salaries etc.). All said and done, the only two good things about this article are: 1. It's not about a rumour heard at the back of Tesco that one of the first team have already signed for Barcalona. 2. It gives us a chance to discuss matters at SMS. Meanwhile, on the subject of overpaid, spoilt footballers with a tarnished reputation, how good was it to see John Terry in tears last night? Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 7

10:06am Thu 1 May 14

Salalal says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
How many games does he have to of played to get a championship medal?
Does he qualify?
I don't think he has started a single league game for Juventus. He is their 4th choice striker and has just had a few minutes playing time in Serie A as a sub. There is no way he will get a championship medal.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: How many games does he have to of played to get a championship medal? Does he qualify?[/p][/quote]I don't think he has started a single league game for Juventus. He is their 4th choice striker and has just had a few minutes playing time in Serie A as a sub. There is no way he will get a championship medal. Salalal
  • Score: 5

10:09am Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Salalal wrote:
As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season.
That would be because he isn't available to us even if we wanted to do that. He is on loan to another club. The players obviously don't want him back and neither do 99.99% of the fans
[quote][p][bold]Salalal[/bold] wrote: As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season.[/p][/quote]That would be because he isn't available to us even if we wanted to do that. He is on loan to another club. The players obviously don't want him back and neither do 99.99% of the fans Clever Dick
  • Score: 7

10:10am Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Osvaldo is a pillock.

He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player.

He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open.

He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it?

It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option.

Osvaldo is a pillock.
Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 23

10:12am Thu 1 May 14

StElsass says...

Chicago Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild.
I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.
[quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?[/p][/quote]It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild. I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for. StElsass
  • Score: 5

10:24am Thu 1 May 14

wagsta says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Tubbystubb wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place.
Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill.
As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid!
I shouldn't think this "windfall" is unexpected. I'm sure it has been included in our budget planning for some time.

My comment was simply to make the point that we don't necessarily have to cough up the £27m all in one go. There are ways around it. (One of them is to try and sell Osvaldo, and recoup at least part of that debt.)
PL TV & prize monies are payed in installments, you don't get it all in one hit. I would imagine that they do vector that money into the budget in advance. £27m is a drop in the ocean when compared to some other PL and even some Championship clubs.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tubbystubb[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]It was reported recently that Saints could be on the verge of an £80m windfall if they finish the season in eighth place. Surley, allowing for other budgetry demands etc, this money will go some way to paying off that £27m bill. As for Osvaldo, just bite the bullet and get rid![/p][/quote]I shouldn't think this "windfall" is unexpected. I'm sure it has been included in our budget planning for some time. My comment was simply to make the point that we don't necessarily have to cough up the £27m all in one go. There are ways around it. (One of them is to try and sell Osvaldo, and recoup at least part of that debt.)[/p][/quote]PL TV & prize monies are payed in installments, you don't get it all in one hit. I would imagine that they do vector that money into the budget in advance. £27m is a drop in the ocean when compared to some other PL and even some Championship clubs. wagsta
  • Score: 4

10:24am Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

StElsass wrote:
Chicago Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild.
I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.
It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.
[quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?[/p][/quote]It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild. I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.[/p][/quote]It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet. Clever Dick
  • Score: 7

10:28am Thu 1 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

He who has not sinned cast the first stone, and all that?
He who has not sinned cast the first stone, and all that? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: -1

10:31am Thu 1 May 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

Puncheon was another example
Puncheon was another example worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: -2

10:38am Thu 1 May 14

killared says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Osvaldo is a pillock.

He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player.

He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open.

He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it?

It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option.

Osvaldo is a pillock.
I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.[/p][/quote]I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him . killared
  • Score: 1

10:45am Thu 1 May 14

StElsass says...

Clever Dick wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Chicago Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild.
I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.
It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.
I know the £80m isn't the total income and you're right the academy rebuild is probably mortgaged. However, if I remember right we recorded a loss of £7m not including transfer fees last year in spite of the increased income.
What is frustrating is that if there was a bit of patience around, we could build a great team within the next 3 to 4 seasons without spending too much money.
Unfortunately, patience doesn't exist in football, be it amongst the owners, the players, the managers or the fans. Which is a great mix for the agents and the press, who are making the most of it.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?[/p][/quote]It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild. I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.[/p][/quote]It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.[/p][/quote]I know the £80m isn't the total income and you're right the academy rebuild is probably mortgaged. However, if I remember right we recorded a loss of £7m not including transfer fees last year in spite of the increased income. What is frustrating is that if there was a bit of patience around, we could build a great team within the next 3 to 4 seasons without spending too much money. Unfortunately, patience doesn't exist in football, be it amongst the owners, the players, the managers or the fans. Which is a great mix for the agents and the press, who are making the most of it. StElsass
  • Score: 0

11:24am Thu 1 May 14

miltonnroad76 says...

The question whether to take him back or will he fit in doesnt matter coz he aint that good a player anyway.
The question whether to take him back or will he fit in doesnt matter coz he aint that good a player anyway. miltonnroad76
  • Score: -2

11:27am Thu 1 May 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Blackknight wrote:
Why did Saints buy him in the first place?
Italian international and scored 20+ goals in Serie A last season for Roma.
[quote][p][bold]Blackknight[/bold] wrote: Why did Saints buy him in the first place?[/p][/quote]Italian international and scored 20+ goals in Serie A last season for Roma. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 7

11:28am Thu 1 May 14

expatsaint says...

killared wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.
I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .
The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over.
[quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.[/p][/quote]I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .[/p][/quote]The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over. expatsaint
  • Score: 5

11:30am Thu 1 May 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa…

Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception …

We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.
I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week.
*£50k a week. He's on £50k a week.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: It is easy to go from hero to zero and vice versa… Imagine we lose AL and Shaw but bring in a couple of solid replacements and remember JWP and Calum are coming very good, strengthen the back and Osvaldo started hitting the net would we slate him then, remember training ground bust ups were once the norm not the exception … We must not forget we need everyone we can keep hold of if the background rumors and boards modest ambition starts affecting us.[/p][/quote]I think we can get better than him for £15m and £75k a week.[/p][/quote]*£50k a week. He's on £50k a week. SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 0

11:34am Thu 1 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

MoPo knew what Osvaldo was like, so why did he agree to buy him?
The write-off is bound to hamper our progress, but we will keep moving onwards and upwards, I'm sure.
MoPo knew what Osvaldo was like, so why did he agree to buy him? The write-off is bound to hamper our progress, but we will keep moving onwards and upwards, I'm sure. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -3

11:53am Thu 1 May 14

Billy liar says...

For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte
We need Osvaldo
For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte We need Osvaldo Billy liar
  • Score: -2

11:54am Thu 1 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Billy liar wrote:
For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte
We need Osvaldo
So, we need Osvaldo to score no goals!
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte We need Osvaldo[/p][/quote]So, we need Osvaldo to score no goals! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -2

12:01pm Thu 1 May 14

tricky19791 says...

Question for everyone. Has anyone thought and aske what Jose Fonte what he thinks and wants?
Question for everyone. Has anyone thought and aske what Jose Fonte what he thinks and wants? tricky19791
  • Score: -1

12:04pm Thu 1 May 14

george chivers says...

expatsaint wrote:
killared wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.
I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .
The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over.
Mopo was his referee from their days together at Espanyol.
[quote][p][bold]expatsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.[/p][/quote]I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .[/p][/quote]The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over.[/p][/quote]Mopo was his referee from their days together at Espanyol. george chivers
  • Score: 0

12:19pm Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Billy liar wrote:
For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte
We need Osvaldo
He scored 3 goals in 13 appearances. We need a 20 goal a season striker not a bit part player who throws a tantrum every 5 minutes. He hasn't scored for Juventus in the league yet either.

Apart from head butting Fonte he was suspended and fined by the league for violent conduct in the touch line fracas at Newcastle. He was also dropped by Italy after shouting at his Roma coach in the cup final. All of that was in just one year, 2013.

Your boys in the playground at merry oaks school are just kids. If they are still fighting each other when they're 28 you won't have done a very good job.
[quote][p][bold]Billy liar[/bold] wrote: For gods sake, we only have small squad, we haven't scored a goal since Rodriguez was injured, we had more fights everyday in the playground at merry oak boys school, get over it Fonte We need Osvaldo[/p][/quote]He scored 3 goals in 13 appearances. We need a 20 goal a season striker not a bit part player who throws a tantrum every 5 minutes. He hasn't scored for Juventus in the league yet either. Apart from head butting Fonte he was suspended and fined by the league for violent conduct in the touch line fracas at Newcastle. He was also dropped by Italy after shouting at his Roma coach in the cup final. All of that was in just one year, 2013. Your boys in the playground at merry oaks school are just kids. If they are still fighting each other when they're 28 you won't have done a very good job. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 6

12:23pm Thu 1 May 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Regardless of the age of our players, we need men wearing our famous red and white, not childish boys. Osvaldo must go. He behaves like a petulant child and seems unwilling to make the effort required, in order to match the pace and skill involved in being an effective EPL striker. He is a total embarrassment and will only further besmirch our club's good name, if he were to stay.
Regardless of the age of our players, we need men wearing our famous red and white, not childish boys. Osvaldo must go. He behaves like a petulant child and seems unwilling to make the effort required, in order to match the pace and skill involved in being an effective EPL striker. He is a total embarrassment and will only further besmirch our club's good name, if he were to stay. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 1

12:40pm Thu 1 May 14

el caballo santos101 says...

well don to the echo, they have found the one player in our squad who we want to sell and who we haven't had the constant rumours about.
well don to the echo, they have found the one player in our squad who we want to sell and who we haven't had the constant rumours about. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 3

1:14pm Thu 1 May 14

angus mc coatup says...

Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing. angus mc coatup
  • Score: 4

1:28pm Thu 1 May 14

right back in the bar says...

A **** posing as a hard man - I never want to see him wear the shirt again. As for finances I think it likely that the club will be unable to refuse big offers for AL and LS in the summer. MS may also be tempted as he is desperate to get into the international frame and may think he has a better chance playing champions league - Wenger is an admirer. I hope not, both AL and MS will always be associated in my mind with the club's renaissance. When they were playing in L1 you knew you were watching true class in spite of the opposition; and that with the like of them there was a way back. And so it was, but times change. I would still expect us to keep the others and a midfield of JC, VW and my player of the season Steven Davis would still be one of the best, notwithstanding who we might bring in for the 60-70 odd million should AL, MS, and LS leave.
A **** posing as a hard man - I never want to see him wear the shirt again. As for finances I think it likely that the club will be unable to refuse big offers for AL and LS in the summer. MS may also be tempted as he is desperate to get into the international frame and may think he has a better chance playing champions league - Wenger is an admirer. I hope not, both AL and MS will always be associated in my mind with the club's renaissance. When they were playing in L1 you knew you were watching true class in spite of the opposition; and that with the like of them there was a way back. And so it was, but times change. I would still expect us to keep the others and a midfield of JC, VW and my player of the season Steven Davis would still be one of the best, notwithstanding who we might bring in for the 60-70 odd million should AL, MS, and LS leave. right back in the bar
  • Score: 0

1:47pm Thu 1 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
A quick look at http://www.not606.co
m/showthread.php/257
276-JayRod-out-for-6
-Months-Thread/page5

Suggests he had the op on the 23rd April
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]A quick look at http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/257 276-JayRod-out-for-6 -Months-Thread/page5 Suggests he had the op on the 23rd April OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:53pm Thu 1 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
A quick look at http://www.not606.co

m/showthread.php/257

276-JayRod-out-for-6

-Months-Thread/page5

Suggests he had the op on the 23rd April
If the URL does not work, just go on or Google the not606 Southampton Forum and look for the JayRod out for 6 Months Thread.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]A quick look at http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/257 276-JayRod-out-for-6 -Months-Thread/page5 Suggests he had the op on the 23rd April[/p][/quote]If the URL does not work, just go on or Google the not606 Southampton Forum and look for the JayRod out for 6 Months Thread. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:11pm Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

2:43pm Thu 1 May 14

Mary80 says...

Dani doesn't need the Saints he bloody needs Jeremy Kyle
Dani doesn't need the Saints he bloody needs Jeremy Kyle Mary80
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Thu 1 May 14

costa gaz says...

£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED) costa gaz
  • Score: 6

3:31pm Thu 1 May 14

right back in the bar says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.
I can believe that, seeing as you seem to be such a highly respected individual on this site - albeit among a clique of schoolmasterly sycophants and chumps.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.[/p][/quote]I can believe that, seeing as you seem to be such a highly respected individual on this site - albeit among a clique of schoolmasterly sycophants and chumps. right back in the bar
  • Score: -9

3:53pm Thu 1 May 14

promised land says...

costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
Agree. Then IF one of those players were to move on ? The paper will proclaim in a headline; "you read it here first folks". If you put enough irons in the fire, maybe one will come right ? One thing is for certain, they will never say anything about getting it wrong folks.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]Agree. Then IF one of those players were to move on ? The paper will proclaim in a headline; "you read it here first folks". If you put enough irons in the fire, maybe one will come right ? One thing is for certain, they will never say anything about getting it wrong folks. promised land
  • Score: 1

4:32pm Thu 1 May 14

angus mc coatup says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.
Thanks Seed, and cheers Osprey. Looks like things went ok......

Get well soon jay..... coyr
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.[/p][/quote]Thanks Seed, and cheers Osprey. Looks like things went ok...... Get well soon jay..... coyr angus mc coatup
  • Score: 9

5:08pm Thu 1 May 14

lowe esteem says...

Salalal wrote:
As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season.
Because we've got Sam Gallagher, who is a blossoming performer, who DESERVES the chance.
Because there's only 2 games left.
Because we have all but 'cemented' our 8th place -thank you Mr P.
Because we've other players that can slot in seamlessly (that is- without ructions)
Because this imbecile has caused us far too many problems already, although I may neglect to mention that on his CV.
[quote][p][bold]Salalal[/bold] wrote: As Juventus are not playing him, I really don't see why he isn't being used as a temporary replacement for Rodriguez this season.[/p][/quote]Because we've got Sam Gallagher, who is a blossoming performer, who DESERVES the chance. Because there's only 2 games left. Because we have all but 'cemented' our 8th place -thank you Mr P. Because we've other players that can slot in seamlessly (that is- without ructions) Because this imbecile has caused us far too many problems already, although I may neglect to mention that on his CV. lowe esteem
  • Score: 4

5:17pm Thu 1 May 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

right back in the bar wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went.
And how he's progressing.
He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.
I can believe that, seeing as you seem to be such a highly respected individual on this site - albeit among a clique of schoolmasterly sycophants and chumps.
What an odd attack on fellow saints fans. I was simply passing on info in answer to a question.
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: Does anyone know If J.rod has had his operation yet, and if he has, how it went. And how he's progressing.[/p][/quote]He's a mate of a mate. He showed me a text from him at the Everton game from I think the previous Tuesday when he had had the op and everyone was pleased with the results.[/p][/quote]I can believe that, seeing as you seem to be such a highly respected individual on this site - albeit among a clique of schoolmasterly sycophants and chumps.[/p][/quote]What an odd attack on fellow saints fans. I was simply passing on info in answer to a question. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 9

5:17pm Thu 1 May 14

lowe esteem says...

derek james wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Bring back dani
He is the best striker we have
most sensible comment, he reminds me a bit of osgood, a bit of a bad boy but oozed talent
Joking right?
Don't think you would've seen this under performer chasing Norman Hunter round the field, having mesmerised him with his talent.
Our Ossie was a humorous and intelligent character who could play and back it up.
Otherwise, you're comparing a Pompey renaissance with a 4 all draw at Bury surely?
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Bring back dani He is the best striker we have[/p][/quote]most sensible comment, he reminds me a bit of osgood, a bit of a bad boy but oozed talent[/p][/quote]Joking right? Don't think you would've seen this under performer chasing Norman Hunter round the field, having mesmerised him with his talent. Our Ossie was a humorous and intelligent character who could play and back it up. Otherwise, you're comparing a Pompey renaissance with a 4 all draw at Bury surely? lowe esteem
  • Score: 1

5:35pm Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I think you are underselling us a bit here. You've missed out Nat Clyne and the new Paul Scholes ,JWP. And then of course we have Harrison Reed who is also the new somebody or other and the young lad from the academy who is supposed to be off to Arsenal. So that'll be another 10 mil for Nat, 10 more for JWP, Harrison we could let go for 3mil as he's fairly untried and the young lad a couple via the tribunal. I'm beginning to worry about our midfield as we are only going to have Steve Davis left. On the plus side he is playing so well he can do the job on his own. Then of course we will be requiring compensation from the Spuds who only have to ask and MoPo will simply go rushing off after having been in discussions with them for weeks. Let's say 5 Mil for that. So there's another 30 mil and we still have the spine of the team intact. Artur in goal, Jose centre half, Steve D in mid and Sam Gallagher up front. Oh wait a minute though isn't he the new Ibrahimovic? Better get in quick Moysie or he'll be off to Chelki, Manky city or Liver puddle if you don't get your finger out. £20million anybody?
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I think you are underselling us a bit here. You've missed out Nat Clyne and the new Paul Scholes ,JWP. And then of course we have Harrison Reed who is also the new somebody or other and the young lad from the academy who is supposed to be off to Arsenal. So that'll be another 10 mil for Nat, 10 more for JWP, Harrison we could let go for 3mil as he's fairly untried and the young lad a couple via the tribunal. I'm beginning to worry about our midfield as we are only going to have Steve Davis left. On the plus side he is playing so well he can do the job on his own. Then of course we will be requiring compensation from the Spuds who only have to ask and MoPo will simply go rushing off after having been in discussions with them for weeks. Let's say 5 Mil for that. So there's another 30 mil and we still have the spine of the team intact. Artur in goal, Jose centre half, Steve D in mid and Sam Gallagher up front. Oh wait a minute though isn't he the new Ibrahimovic? Better get in quick Moysie or he'll be off to Chelki, Manky city or Liver puddle if you don't get your finger out. £20million anybody? Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Thu 1 May 14

Rank Xerox says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Before you give me the thumbs down, think about what I am going to say. Take out the emotion and think of our club. Now, if we are honest none of us know our financial position. If it is bad, then we may have a summer of discontent. But instead of losing our stars let get in a couple of good frees in Kasper Schmeichel and Aaron Hunt. Welcome Dani back into the fold (he is an Italian international ffs) and get Gaston fit and with the money we will have buy a good centre back such as Caulker or Shawcross. This will feel like 5 new players and in the only positions we really need strengthening. Our big buys have not been our best. Dump our fringe players (Sharp, Barny, Guly, Forte, Kelvin, Fox, Hoover and Mayuka) with the utmost gratitude to free the wages. Aim then for next season is consolidation with TWO good cup runs. Let’s all manage our expectations but keep the dream alive  COYR.
I like it Puddletown Saint. It MoPo's goes you've got my vote!
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Before you give me the thumbs down, think about what I am going to say. Take out the emotion and think of our club. Now, if we are honest none of us know our financial position. If it is bad, then we may have a summer of discontent. But instead of losing our stars let get in a couple of good frees in Kasper Schmeichel and Aaron Hunt. Welcome Dani back into the fold (he is an Italian international ffs) and get Gaston fit and with the money we will have buy a good centre back such as Caulker or Shawcross. This will feel like 5 new players and in the only positions we really need strengthening. Our big buys have not been our best. Dump our fringe players (Sharp, Barny, Guly, Forte, Kelvin, Fox, Hoover and Mayuka) with the utmost gratitude to free the wages. Aim then for next season is consolidation with TWO good cup runs. Let’s all manage our expectations but keep the dream alive  COYR.[/p][/quote]I like it Puddletown Saint. It MoPo's goes you've got my vote! Rank Xerox
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Thu 1 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget.

Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -5

7:08pm Thu 1 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

Clever Dick wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Chicago Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild.
I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.
It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.
Ha ha!! Obviously you have forgotten that St Mary's Stadium is already mortgaged to the secretive Vibrac Corporation, based in the British Virgin Islands.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?[/p][/quote]It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild. I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.[/p][/quote]It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.[/p][/quote]Ha ha!! Obviously you have forgotten that St Mary's Stadium is already mortgaged to the secretive Vibrac Corporation, based in the British Virgin Islands. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -1

7:15pm Thu 1 May 14

Skating on thin ice says...

costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons. Skating on thin ice
  • Score: -4

7:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
StElsass wrote:
Chicago Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.
Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?
It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild.
I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.
It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.
Ha ha!! Obviously you have forgotten that St Mary's Stadium is already mortgaged to the secretive Vibrac Corporation, based in the British Virgin Islands.
Whether it is or whether it isn't is really of no interest to me. If there is a mortgage on it we are obviously making the repayments. That's something a skunt wouldn't understand.(repaymen
ts are amounts of money you are supposed to pay back to people you owe money to. The money does not come out of charity boxes) l leave it to you to do the research . It's obviously the "more interesting" thing you have to do when you are not on here.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]StElsass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chicago Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: The recent reports stated that we owed £27mil but only £22mil was repayable this coming season, As somebody above has said that is very easily covered by taking out a loan, Let's say around 6%. That's £1.32 million in interest. Somewhat less than the hundreds of millions Manure are indebted for and in premier league terms nothing more than a pittance. Then we move on Osvaldo for say £7mil. That debt reduces again to £15mil making the repayments around 3 weeks wages for Shrek. And dare I say it if we sold just one player of decent quality we are in the black. If that player just happened to be Luke Shaw we would be out of debt and looking to bring in another quality player or two as well. RK made his first mistake when he came out with this utter carp and hopefuly he has learnt from it.[/p][/quote]Everybody, INCLUDING the Echo seem to forget that we will have a massive income of around 80 million coming in to the club by the FA for finishing 8th. Our relatively small debt will be wiped clean with room to spare and fund new transfers. Why doesn't anyone at the Echo report on that?[/p][/quote]It has been reported by the echo. What you seem to forget is that more than half of the £80m will be needed to cover for the wages and then there is the small matter of paying for the academy rebuild. I don't think we'll be able to improve the squad without kat having to dip into her pockets. Whether she will or not and how much is probably what is being discussed and what everybody seems to be waiting for.[/p][/quote]It's not just £80 million it's £100million plus. The 80 is just the tv money. Add to that around £1million per game gate receipts and then sponsorship, shirt sales etc. I would be very suprised if the upgrade to the training facilities arn't being financed by some kind of mortgage or company loan so that is a normal ongoing committmet.[/p][/quote]Ha ha!! Obviously you have forgotten that St Mary's Stadium is already mortgaged to the secretive Vibrac Corporation, based in the British Virgin Islands.[/p][/quote]Whether it is or whether it isn't is really of no interest to me. If there is a mortgage on it we are obviously making the repayments. That's something a skunt wouldn't understand.(repaymen ts are amounts of money you are supposed to pay back to people you owe money to. The money does not come out of charity boxes) l leave it to you to do the research . It's obviously the "more interesting" thing you have to do when you are not on here. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

7:33pm Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.
Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.[/p][/quote]Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

7:33pm Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.
Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.[/p][/quote]Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

8:56pm Thu 1 May 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.
Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.
Stop being so rational, CD, skunts - and in particular Shaking on thin ice - are far too easily confused, especially by numbers.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.[/p][/quote]Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.[/p][/quote]Stop being so rational, CD, skunts - and in particular Shaking on thin ice - are far too easily confused, especially by numbers. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

9:19pm Thu 1 May 14

Clever Dick says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Skating on thin ice wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
£25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)
I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.
Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.
Stop being so rational, CD, skunts - and in particular Shaking on thin ice - are far too easily confused, especially by numbers.
Sorry you are right of course. I just find it unbelievable how thick some people can be.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: £25m for Lallana, £27m for Shaw, £15m for Schniderlin, £16m for Lovren, £16m for J Rod, £8m for Gaston, £4m fo Rickie, £10m for Chambers, £3m for Cork and £7m for Osvaldo.... were gonna have a huge war chest £131 MILLION!!!!!!!!! (IF THE DAILY MIRROR IS TO BE BELIEVED)[/p][/quote]I'm sure that if you manage to sell all these players for £131M, then Kit Kat will be delighted to take the money and run. A good return on the investment of buying a place in the Premier League for "only" £33M plus £17M in two successive seasons.[/p][/quote]Another lesson in simple maths is required. It's a shame skunts don't understand the most simple financial matters. You see if you own an asset which is worth say £200million pounds and you then sell half of it for £100 million you are then left with an asset which is only worth £100 million to a prospective buyer. If however you don't sell any of your assets a potential buyer would be looking at having to spend all £200 million. So if she really were looking to sell it would be a lot less trouble selling everything in one go. Keep dreaming. It's all you have left.[/p][/quote]Stop being so rational, CD, skunts - and in particular Shaking on thin ice - are far too easily confused, especially by numbers.[/p][/quote]Sorry you are right of course. I just find it unbelievable how thick some people can be. Clever Dick
  • Score: 2

9:22pm Thu 1 May 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget.

Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do.
Good to see you recognise yourself as "the blue idiot"
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do.[/p][/quote]Good to see you recognise yourself as "the blue idiot" TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 4

10:05pm Thu 1 May 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Osvaldo got ten minutes for Juventus, had a goal chalked off for offside, had it stood we would have got the money instantly, as it was Juve lost 1 2 on aggregate and Benfica play Sevilla in the Final.
Osvaldo got ten minutes for Juventus, had a goal chalked off for offside, had it stood we would have got the money instantly, as it was Juve lost 1 2 on aggregate and Benfica play Sevilla in the Final. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

3:53am Fri 2 May 14

Rising_Son says...

A breakdown of the Premier League club finances (2012-13 season) is on this site:

http://www.theguardi
an.com/football/2014
/may/01/premier-leag
ue-accounts-club-by-
club-david-conn

It's certainly more illuminating than the blue idiot's financial analyses.
A breakdown of the Premier League club finances (2012-13 season) is on this site: http://www.theguardi an.com/football/2014 /may/01/premier-leag ue-accounts-club-by- club-david-conn It's certainly more illuminating than the blue idiot's financial analyses. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

5:35am Fri 2 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Skating on thin ice wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
"They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget.

Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.
What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do.
More interesting things to do? Of course! Like reading our comments.
[quote][p][bold]Skating on thin ice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: "They are already committed to paying £27m in outstanding transfer fees, which is expected to severally hamper their budget to sign players." One way round that might be to borrow the money and pay it back over the next couple of years. That would make less of a dent in this year's budget. Mind you, it would probably bring back the blue idiot who spends most of his life investigating us at Companies House and claiming that the Liebbher empire is on the verge of collapse.[/p][/quote]What do you mean, "bring back"? I have never been away. I am permanently logged on here. If I choose not to comment for a few days it is simply because I have more interesting things to do.[/p][/quote]More interesting things to do? Of course! Like reading our comments. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

8:04am Fri 2 May 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Osvaldo got ten minutes for Juventus, had a goal chalked off for offside, had it stood we would have got the money instantly, as it was Juve lost 1 2 on aggregate and Benfica play Sevilla in the Final.
He did put the ball in the net, but when the original cross came over he was offside, and Pogba was also offside by over a yard.
http://www.goalsaren
a.org/en/video/uefa-
europa-league/01-05-
2014-juventus-benfic
a-semi-final.html
The BBC text feed does not even mention it as a disallowed goal, just "Claudio Marchisio tries a through ball, but Paul Pogba is caught offside."

So Juventus not taking up their option to buy him would mean that we are worse off by 18 million Euro and also his weekly wages. To me this means our whole summer transfer strategy will be distorted. I am not feeling optimistic. At oddschecker for example you can bet on "Luke Shaw club after summer transfer window": Manchester United are 4/9 and we are not even in the list!!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo got ten minutes for Juventus, had a goal chalked off for offside, had it stood we would have got the money instantly, as it was Juve lost 1 2 on aggregate and Benfica play Sevilla in the Final.[/p][/quote]He did put the ball in the net, but when the original cross came over he was offside, and Pogba was also offside by over a yard. http://www.goalsaren a.org/en/video/uefa- europa-league/01-05- 2014-juventus-benfic a-semi-final.html The BBC text feed does not even mention it as a disallowed goal, just "Claudio Marchisio tries a through ball, but Paul Pogba is caught offside." So Juventus not taking up their option to buy him would mean that we are worse off by 18 million Euro and also his weekly wages. To me this means our whole summer transfer strategy will be distorted. I am not feeling optimistic. At oddschecker for example you can bet on "Luke Shaw club after summer transfer window": Manchester United are 4/9 and we are not even in the list!! Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 1

10:18am Mon 5 May 14

boilerman says...

expatsaint wrote:
killared wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.
I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .
The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over.
Wehave to admit a lot of our so called big money signings have not worked/
I have often asked who was responsible for buying these players, well last week we got the answer when Les Reed came out and said he is responsible for all football matters.
In any other walk of life he would be shown the door for wasting so much of the companies money.
We have to get better at identifying the right sort of player for Saints, we do not want to put the financial stability of the club at risk pay over paying for ordinary players.
You just have to look at the clubs that tried to buy the Premiere league dream and how many are facing financial ruin.
We have been down that road once before and do not want it to happen again.
There will come a time when the Inland revenue gets a rule change regarding the football creditors rule and we will then see clubs going under.
Lets live the dream but not at the risk of our club being ruined.
We have had a great season but we must not get greedy, if we can build on this season with a few astute additions to the squad next season could be even better.
COYR
[quote][p][bold]expatsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]killared[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Osvaldo is a pillock. He got a big money move to Southampton and the chance to play on the biggest stage in the world - the Premier League. Apart from one or two touches he never took his chance and never looked like a PL player. He had joined a team with a very special bond, a team spirit way above the norm. Did he immerse himself in it? No he fell out with players culminating in physically assaulting a team mate. He also has previous so obviously doesn't learn. On his way out he didn't apologise properly with cryptic messages on twitter. Anyone with half a brain cell would have realised they might end up back here so would leave the door open. He had complained about the Roma fans turning on him. Well Saints fans welcomed him with open arms but he managed to alienate us as well. Never his fault though is it? It was said he had wanted to stay in Italy but Roma refused to sell him to another Italian club. Well he gets his wish by being loaned out to Juventus with an option to buy clause. Does he grab his opportunity with both hands? Nope, yet again he doesn't perform and shows poor behaviour so Juve, a seriously big club, don't exercise their option. Osvaldo is a pillock.[/p][/quote]I agreed I have said that a long time ago that he was not made for the EPL, I have said long ago that he was a liability and people on here told me that I was so negative ! The guy had a big move with good money and this is how he thank the Fans and the club with his bad behaviour and temper I mean he's gonna be 30 soon ! The guy was loan to Juventus one of the best team in Europe and doesn't try to impress the team instead throw tantrum on the pitch. The Club must sale him with a massive loss I have said that all along there's no way a club would try to buy with the price set by Saints. Take the money and run and move on, even if he's back he's not gonna be our first striker no way Lambert and Gallagher are above him .[/p][/quote]The quote "Osvaldo is a pillock" could not have been more accurate. My problem is that he was a pillock before he came to St. Mary's; sent off 5 times for Roma yet we still signed him. Whether you're running a premier league club (something I've never done), a factory, a hotel or whatever, if you hire a self-indulgent, egotistical maverick who throws his toys out of the pram every time he fails to get his own way then you're gonna have problems! We'll take a big hit if we manage to re-sell him but maybe, in the long run, this will be a salutary lesson. Background research, due diligence and references generally repay the effort many times over.[/p][/quote]Wehave to admit a lot of our so called big money signings have not worked/ I have often asked who was responsible for buying these players, well last week we got the answer when Les Reed came out and said he is responsible for all football matters. In any other walk of life he would be shown the door for wasting so much of the companies money. We have to get better at identifying the right sort of player for Saints, we do not want to put the financial stability of the club at risk pay over paying for ordinary players. You just have to look at the clubs that tried to buy the Premiere league dream and how many are facing financial ruin. We have been down that road once before and do not want it to happen again. There will come a time when the Inland revenue gets a rule change regarding the football creditors rule and we will then see clubs going under. Lets live the dream but not at the risk of our club being ruined. We have had a great season but we must not get greedy, if we can build on this season with a few astute additions to the squad next season could be even better. COYR boilerman
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