Daily Echo comment: Horror week for Saints fans gets worse

Rickie Lambert

Rickie Lambert

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For Rickie Lambert it is a dream, but for Saints fans it probably feels like it’s edging towards a nightmare.

Just days after seeing their manager walk out and join Tottenham, they are now contemplating the loss of their star striker to Liverpool.

The Reds are confident of sealing a shock move for the 32-year-old, who holds hero status on the south coast after five phenomenal seasons at St Mary’s.

No agreement has been reached as yet, but there was a sense last night that the transfer would indeed go through this summer.

It may not be the only one, with fears other key players will be heading for pastures new in the coming months.

The loss of Lambert would undoubtedly signal the end of an era at Saints, though.

It is simply hard to overstate just how important he has been to the club since joining for £1m from Bristol Rovers in 2009.

His total of 117 goals in 235 appearances sum it up about as well as any words can, though.

It is hard to imagine many better pieces of business in the club’s history than that.

For Lambert, a move to Liverpool would mean the world.

His love of the club is well known, and the possibility of joining them would, understandably on his part, probably be too hard to pass up, even if he will undoubtedly have to accept a more limited role at Anfield.

Few would begrudge him the move, although no one in the corridors of power at St Mary’s should be worrying about such sentiments.

Lambert remains a vital part of the Saints squad and should a move now go ahead it will be an embarrassing blow for the board.

Just 24 hours before the news broke, chairman Ralph Krueger had this to say on transfer activity this summer: “We will involve the (new) manager. That is important for everybody to know.

“That’s why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn’t understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints.”

Even if Saints do delay pulling the trigger on a deal until after Mauricio Pochettino’s replacement is found, the mere fact this has come out, or that discussions have taken place, has been damaging to them.

Keeping Lambert is the only way it appears salvageable for them, and that outcome looks extremely unlikely right now.

The loss of the forward this summer in some respects would not come as a complete surprise.

The seeds of his likely departure had begun to be sowed back in January.

The club were understood to be in advanced discussions to sell Lambert to West Ham on the day Nicola Cortese departed as chairman, with the striker set to receive a lucrative deal that would have set him up for years to come.

However, after the new board took control, they immediately called off the transfer and told Lambert he was staying and would have to honour his current contract.

The whole saga, which Lambert admitted at the time had been a hard one, is believed to have caused some strain in the relationship between player and club.

Behind the scenes, it had led to a sense that this summer might prove to signal the end of his amazing career with Saints.

If that is to be the case, what a sad loss it will be.

And not just as a player, but as a voice in the dressing room and as a person too.

Footballers aren’t always easy people to root for. But anyone who knows Lambert knows that he is.

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7:09am Fri 30 May 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

nice to see you aren't joining in with the feeding frenzy the rest of the media are having....... wait......
nice to see you aren't joining in with the feeding frenzy the rest of the media are having....... wait...... Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: -1

7:13am Fri 30 May 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

We will soon know HOW the club is going to react to M.P. and Rickie departing . Today should bring some answer s . But enough is enough , we now need POSITIVE news and will soon be able to see our FUTURE . A summer roller coaster and we certainly have started with FEAR . C O Y R good news now !
We will soon know HOW the club is going to react to M.P. and Rickie departing . Today should bring some answer s . But enough is enough , we now need POSITIVE news and will soon be able to see our FUTURE . A summer roller coaster and we certainly have started with FEAR . C O Y R good news now ! SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 12

7:14am Fri 30 May 14

Little Hitler says...

If this happens....

WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER!

You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates?
If this happens.... WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER! You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates? Little Hitler
  • Score: 41

7:16am Fri 30 May 14

Electrostar says...

The Board cannot stop other clubs approaching them about players and every player, even RL, has their price. RK said he will do what is right for Saints.

Need to start giving positive messages about the board instead of trying to search for negativity in everything that they say and adding to the media frenzy.

Anyone would think that the article has been written by a Pompey supporter
The Board cannot stop other clubs approaching them about players and every player, even RL, has their price. RK said he will do what is right for Saints. Need to start giving positive messages about the board instead of trying to search for negativity in everything that they say and adding to the media frenzy. Anyone would think that the article has been written by a Pompey supporter Electrostar
  • Score: 3

7:17am Fri 30 May 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

RK...we won't be selling anyone until we have a new manager in place...well they better get one in today before lambert goes tomorrow.

We have a huge number of top quality managers all across Europe banging on our door.....We have approached Brighton manager to sound him out about joining us (Garcia)....

Total lies. RK you need to start learning you cannot BS loyal football fans.

I will wait until the new manager is picked to judge finally, but comments like we want to have European football are WAY off the mark... Unless you want to try a cup run with a second rate team next season....
RK...we won't be selling anyone until we have a new manager in place...well they better get one in today before lambert goes tomorrow. We have a huge number of top quality managers all across Europe banging on our door.....We have approached Brighton manager to sound him out about joining us (Garcia).... Total lies. RK you need to start learning you cannot BS loyal football fans. I will wait until the new manager is picked to judge finally, but comments like we want to have European football are WAY off the mark... Unless you want to try a cup run with a second rate team next season.... Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 3

7:17am Fri 30 May 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Clyne, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Shaw, Lallana, JWP, Cork, Wanyama, Morgan, J-Rod and now Rickie.... ALL for sale???
The price of success... I am starting to fall out of love with this game.
Saints do blooming great and we are punished, how can a football club get into the top 4 or 5 in the Premiership?... The game is becoming a joke.

I feel like all my friends are going to a huge party but I am not invited.

Time to roll out Fat Les or Freddie to give another statement... but do we believe them?
Clyne, Chambers, Lovren, Fonte, Shaw, Lallana, JWP, Cork, Wanyama, Morgan, J-Rod and now Rickie.... ALL for sale??? The price of success... I am starting to fall out of love with this game. Saints do blooming great and we are punished, how can a football club get into the top 4 or 5 in the Premiership?... The game is becoming a joke. I feel like all my friends are going to a huge party but I am not invited. Time to roll out Fat Les or Freddie to give another statement... but do we believe them? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 93

7:17am Fri 30 May 14

Mikedixon7 says...

Gutted if he goes. Looks a done deal though. Wonder how season ticket sales are going !!!
Gutted if he goes. Looks a done deal though. Wonder how season ticket sales are going !!! Mikedixon7
  • Score: 11

7:18am Fri 30 May 14

redandy10 says...

I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!! redandy10
  • Score: 53

7:24am Fri 30 May 14

Epsom Saint says...

redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
Reports last night suggested that the offer had been rejected. He hasn't gone anywhere yet - and I don't think the transfer window opens until July 1st.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]Reports last night suggested that the offer had been rejected. He hasn't gone anywhere yet - and I don't think the transfer window opens until July 1st. Epsom Saint
  • Score: 4

7:24am Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

We will know one thing for sure if Lambert does go to Liverpool that Krueger and the board tell lies and can not be trusted. It is going to be long summer.
We will know one thing for sure if Lambert does go to Liverpool that Krueger and the board tell lies and can not be trusted. It is going to be long summer. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 19

7:29am Fri 30 May 14

GerrySaint says...

If the sale of Ricky Lambert is agreed before the appointment of a new manager a day after we were assured no sales would be made before the appointment then I will lose all faith in the Board of SFC.
In particular the word and assurances of Ralph Krueger will be seen to be worthless.
To retain any credibility with the supporters of the club this deal must not be allowed to progress. A clear and unequivocal announcement must be made today. This may at least stop the speculation and give the club the time it needs to bring in the new manager.
If the sale of Ricky Lambert is agreed before the appointment of a new manager a day after we were assured no sales would be made before the appointment then I will lose all faith in the Board of SFC. In particular the word and assurances of Ralph Krueger will be seen to be worthless. To retain any credibility with the supporters of the club this deal must not be allowed to progress. A clear and unequivocal announcement must be made today. This may at least stop the speculation and give the club the time it needs to bring in the new manager. GerrySaint
  • Score: 25

7:29am Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

Mikedixon7 wrote:
Gutted if he goes. Looks a done deal though. Wonder how season ticket sales are going !!!
I would think that season tickets sales are not going to well with all the uncertainty surrounding the club.
[quote][p][bold]Mikedixon7[/bold] wrote: Gutted if he goes. Looks a done deal though. Wonder how season ticket sales are going !!![/p][/quote]I would think that season tickets sales are not going to well with all the uncertainty surrounding the club. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 8

7:31am Fri 30 May 14

NC Fan4Life says...

At his age it was always a possibility and a dream move for Ricky to finish his career at his home town club, at his age £5m + is a good deal considering he is probably in his last season at the top level. Ricky has been legenory 'Roy of the Rovers' stuff in Saints regaining our Premiership status, we thank him and owe him a lot including this wish to move to Liverpool. Thank you Rick.

What is bad news is that it signals the break up of the brilliant team unity that Saints had as a squad. Ricky along with Adam, Jose & Morgan were the core of that unity so it is now imperative that we keep these. Also the timing is poor, after Ralph's statement this week, we should have kept him until at least after the World Cup and after the new manager is appointed. We will now need to sign at least two top quality strikers !!
At his age it was always a possibility and a dream move for Ricky to finish his career at his home town club, at his age £5m + is a good deal considering he is probably in his last season at the top level. Ricky has been legenory 'Roy of the Rovers' stuff in Saints regaining our Premiership status, we thank him and owe him a lot including this wish to move to Liverpool. Thank you Rick. What is bad news is that it signals the break up of the brilliant team unity that Saints had as a squad. Ricky along with Adam, Jose & Morgan were the core of that unity so it is now imperative that we keep these. Also the timing is poor, after Ralph's statement this week, we should have kept him until at least after the World Cup and after the new manager is appointed. We will now need to sign at least two top quality strikers !! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 18

7:33am Fri 30 May 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Don't worry Ralph can get an equally good replacement for 4 mil.
I have no confidence in this board at all.
Lallana is next and then take your pick while les and Ralph do nothing and hope it all stops.i do not blame the players they are as nervous as we are.
Some people on here say you must blindly follow the club and should not criticise and they were saying the same thing when Lowe was in charge.
I believe it is our right to question and criticise.we have to demand better and set certain expectations of the club.
We are walking a tightrope at the moment and the board have to do something to instill confidence back in the club.
A bid for a player wouldn't go amiss
Don't worry Ralph can get an equally good replacement for 4 mil. I have no confidence in this board at all. Lallana is next and then take your pick while les and Ralph do nothing and hope it all stops.i do not blame the players they are as nervous as we are. Some people on here say you must blindly follow the club and should not criticise and they were saying the same thing when Lowe was in charge. I believe it is our right to question and criticise.we have to demand better and set certain expectations of the club. We are walking a tightrope at the moment and the board have to do something to instill confidence back in the club. A bid for a player wouldn't go amiss Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 12

7:42am Fri 30 May 14

Oldfan says...

We seem to be rudderless at the moment. Surely it could not have been a total surprise that Pochettino left and hopefully there was a contingency plan in place so an announcement will be made sooner rather than later.
We seem to be rudderless at the moment. Surely it could not have been a total surprise that Pochettino left and hopefully there was a contingency plan in place so an announcement will be made sooner rather than later. Oldfan
  • Score: 6

7:42am Fri 30 May 14

yellowcard says...

Electrostar wrote:
The Board cannot stop other clubs approaching them about players and every player, even RL, has their price. RK said he will do what is right for Saints.

Need to start giving positive messages about the board instead of trying to search for negativity in everything that they say and adding to the media frenzy.

Anyone would think that the article has been written by a Pompey supporter
Atleast someone has sense. Your right the club will get bids for players nothing the board can do to stop that. So far it has all been gutter press rumours. If the press are to be belived on everything the all of our squad has already left us the board are on a warm sunny beach drinking away the money and are new manager is the local under 9's Sunday league coach.
[quote][p][bold]Electrostar[/bold] wrote: The Board cannot stop other clubs approaching them about players and every player, even RL, has their price. RK said he will do what is right for Saints. Need to start giving positive messages about the board instead of trying to search for negativity in everything that they say and adding to the media frenzy. Anyone would think that the article has been written by a Pompey supporter[/p][/quote]Atleast someone has sense. Your right the club will get bids for players nothing the board can do to stop that. So far it has all been gutter press rumours. If the press are to be belived on everything the all of our squad has already left us the board are on a warm sunny beach drinking away the money and are new manager is the local under 9's Sunday league coach. yellowcard
  • Score: 10

7:46am Fri 30 May 14

Meribelsaint says...

Think I'll wait until something has actually been confirmed before I lose faith with the board. After the statement from RK surely a TOP manager is about to be installed BEFORE any players come or go.
Think I'll wait until something has actually been confirmed before I lose faith with the board. After the statement from RK surely a TOP manager is about to be installed BEFORE any players come or go. Meribelsaint
  • Score: 17

7:53am Fri 30 May 14

hagbourneutd says...

Looking at some of the negative post's on here you would think he's already gone at this stage it's only a bid, even sky sports are only reporting it as a bid unlike the echo last night virtually saying he was gone there will be bids for a lot of players but it doesnt mean there automatically done deals I will wait for official announcements thank you, I see koemans been backed in to odds on with the bookies now as well
Looking at some of the negative post's on here you would think he's already gone at this stage it's only a bid, even sky sports are only reporting it as a bid unlike the echo last night virtually saying he was gone there will be bids for a lot of players but it doesnt mean there automatically done deals I will wait for official announcements thank you, I see koemans been backed in to odds on with the bookies now as well hagbourneutd
  • Score: 5

7:58am Fri 30 May 14

search for the truth says...

Quote from Liverpool Echo last night...............
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Reds close in on deal for Southampton striker Rickie Lambert

Rickie Lambert is on the brink of a dream move to Anfield after Liverpool FC launched a surprise bid for the Southampton striker.
The Reds have tabled an offer of £4million plus add-ons for the Kirkby-born boyhood Kopite and are confident of securing his services.
The ECHO understands the 32-year-old England international will be offered a two-year contract and club officials hope the transfer will be completed in the next 48 hours.
Lambert, who began his career in Liverpool's youth ranks before being released at the age of 15, is desperate to make the switch to Anfield and is prepared to push through the transfer.
He is part of England’s World Cup squad and is currently preparing for Friday night’s friendly with Peru at Wembley.
Liverpool want him to undergo a medical and sign a contract before he flies off to Miami with Roy Hodgson's men on Sunday to continue their preparations for Brazil.
Ricky Lambert in action at Anfield
Lambert would be the Reds' first signing of the summer and more are likely to follow swiftly.
Liverpool have tabled a £16million bid for Sevilla's Alberto Moreno and are willing to offer Spanish youngster Suso as a makeweight in the deal.
The ECHO revealed earlier this month that Spain international Moreno is Brendan Rodgers' prime left-back target.
Rodgers is also chasing Lambert's Southampton clubmates Adam Lallana and Dejan Lovren.
The Reds' £20million offer for midfielder Lallana was rejected by Saints, while they have yet to make a formal approach for Croatian centre-back Lovren.
If Liverpool don't make a breakthrough in their pursuit of Lallana then they will turn their attentions to Bayern Munich's Xherdan Shaqiri.
They have also pursued Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Emre Can and are willing to meet the £10million release clause in his contract. However, they have so far been unable to agree personal terms with the Germany Under-21s international and could walk away from that deal.
The move for Lambert, who has a tattoo of the Liver Bird on his shoulder, has come out of the blue.
The 6ft 2ins frontman worked his way up through the lower leagues after being released by Liverpool as a teenager.
He had spells with Blackpool, Macclesfield Town, Stockport County, Rochdale and Bristol Rovers before signing for Southampton in 2009.
Lambert, who is under contract until the summer of 2016, helped them clinch back to back promotion en route to the top flight and is a fans' favourite on the South Coast.
He has scored 117 goals in 235 games for Saints, including 13 strikes in the 2013/14 Premier League campaign.
Rodgers is keen to have four frontline strikers in order for the Reds to be able to cope with the added demands of Champions League football next season and believes Lambert fits the bill.
With Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge for company, plus Fabio Borini back from his loan spell at Sunderland, he is unlikely to be a regular starter but he will provide a different attacking option.
Lambert's arrival would also accelerate the departure of Spanish striker Iago Aspas, who has no future at Anfield after a disappointing first season at the club following his £8million switch from Celta Vigo.
Lambert's age and aerial prowess makes him a surprise addition to Rodgers' squad.
However, before the Reds faced Saints at Anfield last September the Northern Irishman paid a warm tribute to the striker, who had recently scored on his England debut against Scotland.
“I think Rickie is a terrific player,” said Rodgers.
“I sent him a fax when he made his England debut as I know he is a big Red. I sent it on behalf of the club and all Kopites.
“He is a Kirkby boy and I was just wishing him well, saying we were all proud of him playing for England.
“He’s probably never got the recognition for what a really good footballer he is. He is probably seen as a traditional big number nine, a typical British striker, but he’s one of the most accomplished footballers I’ve seen.
“Look at his touch and the different types of goals he scores, he is a terrific player.
“'People look back now and say it was a mistake (by Liverpool to let Lambert go), but there may have been something at the time that was a factor.
“He just might not have been ready for what Liverpool was at that time, but there is absolutely no doubt within development it cannot just be about what the player is now. With young talent you always have to look at what they could be.
“You see so many young British players who are thrown to the garbage because maybe they are not strong or they are not quick when they are going through growth spurts. The emphasis at younger ages should be technique. But I have been a big admirer of Rickie.”
Quote from Liverpool Echo last night............... ...... Reds close in on deal for Southampton striker Rickie Lambert Rickie Lambert is on the brink of a dream move to Anfield after Liverpool FC launched a surprise bid for the Southampton striker. The Reds have tabled an offer of £4million plus add-ons for the Kirkby-born boyhood Kopite and are confident of securing his services. The ECHO understands the 32-year-old England international will be offered a two-year contract and club officials hope the transfer will be completed in the next 48 hours. Lambert, who began his career in Liverpool's youth ranks before being released at the age of 15, is desperate to make the switch to Anfield and is prepared to push through the transfer. He is part of England’s World Cup squad and is currently preparing for Friday night’s friendly with Peru at Wembley. Liverpool want him to undergo a medical and sign a contract before he flies off to Miami with Roy Hodgson's men on Sunday to continue their preparations for Brazil. Ricky Lambert in action at Anfield Lambert would be the Reds' first signing of the summer and more are likely to follow swiftly. Liverpool have tabled a £16million bid for Sevilla's Alberto Moreno and are willing to offer Spanish youngster Suso as a makeweight in the deal. The ECHO revealed earlier this month that Spain international Moreno is Brendan Rodgers' prime left-back target. Rodgers is also chasing Lambert's Southampton clubmates Adam Lallana and Dejan Lovren. The Reds' £20million offer for midfielder Lallana was rejected by Saints, while they have yet to make a formal approach for Croatian centre-back Lovren. If Liverpool don't make a breakthrough in their pursuit of Lallana then they will turn their attentions to Bayern Munich's Xherdan Shaqiri. They have also pursued Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Emre Can and are willing to meet the £10million release clause in his contract. However, they have so far been unable to agree personal terms with the Germany Under-21s international and could walk away from that deal. The move for Lambert, who has a tattoo of the Liver Bird on his shoulder, has come out of the blue. The 6ft 2ins frontman worked his way up through the lower leagues after being released by Liverpool as a teenager. He had spells with Blackpool, Macclesfield Town, Stockport County, Rochdale and Bristol Rovers before signing for Southampton in 2009. Lambert, who is under contract until the summer of 2016, helped them clinch back to back promotion en route to the top flight and is a fans' favourite on the South Coast. He has scored 117 goals in 235 games for Saints, including 13 strikes in the 2013/14 Premier League campaign. Rodgers is keen to have four frontline strikers in order for the Reds to be able to cope with the added demands of Champions League football next season and believes Lambert fits the bill. With Luis Suarez and Daniel Sturridge for company, plus Fabio Borini back from his loan spell at Sunderland, he is unlikely to be a regular starter but he will provide a different attacking option. Lambert's arrival would also accelerate the departure of Spanish striker Iago Aspas, who has no future at Anfield after a disappointing first season at the club following his £8million switch from Celta Vigo. Lambert's age and aerial prowess makes him a surprise addition to Rodgers' squad. However, before the Reds faced Saints at Anfield last September the Northern Irishman paid a warm tribute to the striker, who had recently scored on his England debut against Scotland. “I think Rickie is a terrific player,” said Rodgers. “I sent him a fax when he made his England debut as I know he is a big Red. I sent it on behalf of the club and all Kopites. “He is a Kirkby boy and I was just wishing him well, saying we were all proud of him playing for England. “He’s probably never got the recognition for what a really good footballer he is. He is probably seen as a traditional big number nine, a typical British striker, but he’s one of the most accomplished footballers I’ve seen. “Look at his touch and the different types of goals he scores, he is a terrific player. “'People look back now and say it was a mistake (by Liverpool to let Lambert go), but there may have been something at the time that was a factor. “He just might not have been ready for what Liverpool was at that time, but there is absolutely no doubt within development it cannot just be about what the player is now. With young talent you always have to look at what they could be. “You see so many young British players who are thrown to the garbage because maybe they are not strong or they are not quick when they are going through growth spurts. The emphasis at younger ages should be technique. But I have been a big admirer of Rickie.” search for the truth
  • Score: -3

7:58am Fri 30 May 14

Bassett Boy says...

If we can afford to employ 20 people scouting around the world writing reports that will hardly be looked at, can we perhaps employ 1 person to keep the saints website up to date, at least thousands of people would read it!
The 'official' website is getting about 4 updates per day most of which are about the England youngsters competitions none of which is 'hot off the press' news.
All news appears in the national press first and may appear on saints website some hours later (or may not)
This is the reason fans are getting p!ssed off. Or should I say one of the reasons.
If we can afford to employ 20 people scouting around the world writing reports that will hardly be looked at, can we perhaps employ 1 person to keep the saints website up to date, at least thousands of people would read it! The 'official' website is getting about 4 updates per day most of which are about the England youngsters competitions none of which is 'hot off the press' news. All news appears in the national press first and may appear on saints website some hours later (or may not) This is the reason fans are getting p!ssed off. Or should I say one of the reasons. Bassett Boy
  • Score: 6

8:13am Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you. Rising_Son
  • Score: 8

8:14am Fri 30 May 14

mr miyagi says...

My understanding of the new chairman was that as well as a renowned ice hockey coach, he was also a motivational speaker. After listening to him on Sky the other night, the first time I've heard him speak, I didn't really feel motivated at all. It seemed he was making things up as he went along. Evidently, he was.These approaches for players must have been going on for a while now. I know Rickie hasn't gone yet, but Sky are very rarely wrong when they break news. Deals don't get negotiated over night. I reckon this one may have started before the England team headed off to Portugal, as Roy had banned agents from making contact with his players from that moment onwards.
My understanding of the new chairman was that as well as a renowned ice hockey coach, he was also a motivational speaker. After listening to him on Sky the other night, the first time I've heard him speak, I didn't really feel motivated at all. It seemed he was making things up as he went along. Evidently, he was.These approaches for players must have been going on for a while now. I know Rickie hasn't gone yet, but Sky are very rarely wrong when they break news. Deals don't get negotiated over night. I reckon this one may have started before the England team headed off to Portugal, as Roy had banned agents from making contact with his players from that moment onwards. mr miyagi
  • Score: 1

8:20am Fri 30 May 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price!
What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price! What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled! redandy10
  • Score: 6

8:27am Fri 30 May 14

hagbourneutd says...

I'm still struggling to get my head around some of these comments at the moment it's only a bid, and unless the premier league has change the transfer laws I don't think a bid obliges a club to sell. I personally will hold back on calling RK a liar until anything happens to prove him so.
I'm still struggling to get my head around some of these comments at the moment it's only a bid, and unless the premier league has change the transfer laws I don't think a bid obliges a club to sell. I personally will hold back on calling RK a liar until anything happens to prove him so. hagbourneutd
  • Score: 3

8:31am Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price!
What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled!
The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price! What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled![/p][/quote]The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

8:33am Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Mind you, he hasn't gone yet.
Mind you, he hasn't gone yet. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

8:38am Fri 30 May 14

redandy10 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price!
What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled!
The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.
I agree!
I can only imagine it's for him to come off the bench or being part of some squad rotation system. They are getting him at a snip. I can't see us replacing him like for like for that price. On the one hand I'm happy for Rickie, but for us & the club it absolutely stinks!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price! What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled![/p][/quote]The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.[/p][/quote]I agree! I can only imagine it's for him to come off the bench or being part of some squad rotation system. They are getting him at a snip. I can't see us replacing him like for like for that price. On the one hand I'm happy for Rickie, but for us & the club it absolutely stinks! redandy10
  • Score: 7

8:44am Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price!
What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled!
The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.
The answer your question is simple they sign Lambert before the World Cup then they have someone in the England camp who can try and persuade Lallana to join him at Liverpool, it makes perfect sense.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price! What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled![/p][/quote]The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.[/p][/quote]The answer your question is simple they sign Lambert before the World Cup then they have someone in the England camp who can try and persuade Lallana to join him at Liverpool, it makes perfect sense. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 1

8:48am Fri 30 May 14

paulmsh says...

Koeman odds are so short now, we might have a new manager this weekend! orange & white stripes for next season any one?
Whatever happens I'm looking forward to the start of a new era. Wish Rickie, Adam and any other players that have given us so much over the last five years all the best wherever they go. once a saint, always a saint for me. Even enjoyed Gareth Bale scoring for Real.
Stay positive and support the Kat and her board.
Koeman odds are so short now, we might have a new manager this weekend! orange & white stripes for next season any one? Whatever happens I'm looking forward to the start of a new era. Wish Rickie, Adam and any other players that have given us so much over the last five years all the best wherever they go. once a saint, always a saint for me. Even enjoyed Gareth Bale scoring for Real. Stay positive and support the Kat and her board. paulmsh
  • Score: 4

8:50am Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
I have to agree with you.
I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price!
What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled!
The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.
The answer your question is simple they sign Lambert before the World Cup then they have someone in the England camp who can try and persuade Lallana to join him at Liverpool, it makes perfect sense.
I think you're thinking too much.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree with you.[/p][/quote]I can't wrap my head around it Rising. Rickie has been a great servant to the club and comes across a top bloke, so of course we want to see him fullfil his dream. But now, when in that are we already need to strengthen and for that price! What do you make of it? Because I'm completely baffled![/p][/quote]The bit I don't get is why Liverpool would want to bring in a 32 year old striker with a relatively short future when their biggest problems are defensive. In a way, the money side seems to me not bad for Saints (because of his age), although he is a talismanic, at least among the supporters, and losing him could have negative effects on overall morale.[/p][/quote]The answer your question is simple they sign Lambert before the World Cup then they have someone in the England camp who can try and persuade Lallana to join him at Liverpool, it makes perfect sense.[/p][/quote]I think you're thinking too much. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

8:50am Fri 30 May 14

willygetaway says...

This is an asset strip , Hate this board but love the saints
it would all stop if the board just said publicly no player is for sale period.
then it would be up to the player to explain why he would want out
This is an asset strip , Hate this board but love the saints it would all stop if the board just said publicly no player is for sale period. then it would be up to the player to explain why he would want out willygetaway
  • Score: 6

8:52am Fri 30 May 14

Blackknight says...

Are there any 'Sh@t Creek' paddles for sale in the Echo classified ads?
Are there any 'Sh@t Creek' paddles for sale in the Echo classified ads? Blackknight
  • Score: 8

8:57am Fri 30 May 14

pottyj says...

Like so many I was really looking forward to the next season. Saints in 8th, 3 World Cup players and a couple of really good additions to the team. Now I want the nightmare to end. The beauty of this team is they have grown together over a number of years, climbed through the divisions as a TEAM....can we seriously hope that a new team and new manager can gel together after this exodus...come on ....who do you think you're trying to kid?
Like so many I was really looking forward to the next season. Saints in 8th, 3 World Cup players and a couple of really good additions to the team. Now I want the nightmare to end. The beauty of this team is they have grown together over a number of years, climbed through the divisions as a TEAM....can we seriously hope that a new team and new manager can gel together after this exodus...come on ....who do you think you're trying to kid? pottyj
  • Score: 8

9:06am Fri 30 May 14

andoru says...

So are there actually going to be any Saints players in the England team then? I was banking at least on Lambert still being one of ours, now it looks like he's off. It's getting seriously silly at Southampton right now.
So are there actually going to be any Saints players in the England team then? I was banking at least on Lambert still being one of ours, now it looks like he's off. It's getting seriously silly at Southampton right now. andoru
  • Score: 8

9:09am Fri 30 May 14

Alicesdad says...

I still maintain that the Board should be given their chance.
We've heard RKs public relations outpouring, now we need to see results from Les Reed because so far he is like the invisible man ... and can someone remind me what Gareth Rogers does again?

I really want to believe it's all under control. But we have lost our manager and are likely to lose a signifcinat part of our core first choice team.

There was chilling moment on the Titanic when the rich passengers started to notice there was water around their feet .. is it just me or is anyone else starting to check their socks for damp?
I still maintain that the Board should be given their chance. We've heard RKs public relations outpouring, now we need to see results from Les Reed because so far he is like the invisible man ... and can someone remind me what Gareth Rogers does again? I really want to believe it's all under control. But we have lost our manager and are likely to lose a signifcinat part of our core first choice team. There was chilling moment on the Titanic when the rich passengers started to notice there was water around their feet .. is it just me or is anyone else starting to check their socks for damp? Alicesdad
  • Score: -1

9:17am Fri 30 May 14

RiderOnTheStorm says...

This is called KARMA. We shafted Adkins. MoPo shafts us (as some players may too). You live by the sword... It's life. It's business. But it's not football... and it's not the fans... those who really matter at a football club. IMO
This is called KARMA. We shafted Adkins. MoPo shafts us (as some players may too). You live by the sword... It's life. It's business. But it's not football... and it's not the fans... those who really matter at a football club. IMO RiderOnTheStorm
  • Score: -2

9:18am Fri 30 May 14

pitbull says...

All this media talk is really getting to some people.
It seems as though the previous managers greed has turned most of the fans against the board.
The deal for Rickie has not been completed, so at the moment, Ralph Kreuger is not a cheat and a liar.
Last night, Adam Blackmore tweeted that a bid had come in for Rickie AND IT WAS TURNED DOWN.
If the board bring in a top quality manager, Rickie fulfills his dream and we get a couple of top quality strikers, would we moan, I think not.

It's about time that some Saints fans realise that Cortese and the previous manager were not Southampton FC, they were just employees of Southampton FC.
All this media talk is really getting to some people. It seems as though the previous managers greed has turned most of the fans against the board. The deal for Rickie has not been completed, so at the moment, Ralph Kreuger is not a cheat and a liar. Last night, Adam Blackmore tweeted that a bid had come in for Rickie AND IT WAS TURNED DOWN. If the board bring in a top quality manager, Rickie fulfills his dream and we get a couple of top quality strikers, would we moan, I think not. It's about time that some Saints fans realise that Cortese and the previous manager were not Southampton FC, they were just employees of Southampton FC. pitbull
  • Score: 9

9:22am Fri 30 May 14

pitbull says...

Forgot to add, it was some tin pot blogger that first said that Rickie was having a medical on Saturday.
Forgot to add, it was some tin pot blogger that first said that Rickie was having a medical on Saturday. pitbull
  • Score: 3

9:25am Fri 30 May 14

Norwegian Saint says...

All I want is some good news... is that too much to ask?
All I want is some good news... is that too much to ask? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 5

9:34am Fri 30 May 14

pitbull says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
All I want is some good news... is that too much to ask?
I'm sure it will come.
If a new manager was appointed today, some would either say that it was done in haste or the board went behind the previous managers back, they'll never be happy.

The board already have a list and with the amount of people working on it they should have a good idea who the main target is.
If he's employed by another club there is a process to be followed, which won't be done overnight.

Ralph Kreuger has a good worldwide reputation at stake here, would he really want to tarnish it.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: All I want is some good news... is that too much to ask?[/p][/quote]I'm sure it will come. If a new manager was appointed today, some would either say that it was done in haste or the board went behind the previous managers back, they'll never be happy. The board already have a list and with the amount of people working on it they should have a good idea who the main target is. If he's employed by another club there is a process to be followed, which won't be done overnight. Ralph Kreuger has a good worldwide reputation at stake here, would he really want to tarnish it. pitbull
  • Score: 3

9:36am Fri 30 May 14

St.Gaz says...

Good luck Sir Rickie just want to now one thing when's the movie coming out? RICKIE
Good luck Sir Rickie just want to now one thing when's the movie coming out? RICKIE St.Gaz
  • Score: 3

9:37am Fri 30 May 14

Steady Eddie says...

Just 24 hours before the news broke, chairman Ralph Krueger had this to say on transfer activity this summer: “We will involve the (new) manager. That is important for everybody to know.

“That’s why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn’t understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints.”

If this deal for Rickie happens - we can start calling him 'Wreck'it Ralph'
Just 24 hours before the news broke, chairman Ralph Krueger had this to say on transfer activity this summer: “We will involve the (new) manager. That is important for everybody to know. “That’s why we have been able to not agree to any transfers to date, because we have control of the situation, and anybody who is saying anything else doesn’t understand that we are in a strong position with the Saints.” If this deal for Rickie happens - we can start calling him 'Wreck'it Ralph' Steady Eddie
  • Score: -1

9:44am Fri 30 May 14

fritzer says...

Oldfan wrote:
We seem to be rudderless at the moment. Surely it could not have been a total surprise that Pochettino left and hopefully there was a contingency plan in place so an announcement will be made sooner rather than later.
Don't think it was a gutter press rumour re the Pochettino depature, they got that one right, and what calibre of a manager would take the job when he see's that players are already on the move before his arrival? it sure makes one wonder.
[quote][p][bold]Oldfan[/bold] wrote: We seem to be rudderless at the moment. Surely it could not have been a total surprise that Pochettino left and hopefully there was a contingency plan in place so an announcement will be made sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]Don't think it was a gutter press rumour re the Pochettino depature, they got that one right, and what calibre of a manager would take the job when he see's that players are already on the move before his arrival? it sure makes one wonder. fritzer
  • Score: 3

9:45am Fri 30 May 14

deepheat says...

RK and the board will no doubt tell us after the event that legal issues meant they couldn't tell us a thing until the deals were done. In the meantime expect the following from sky sports

Wednesday - Pochettino - gone

Thursday - Lambert - done deal

Friday - Lallana - done deal

Saturday - Shaw - done deal

Sunday - Lovren -done deal

Monday - Clyne - done deal

Tuesday - Schneiderlin - done deal

Wednesday - Wanyama - done deal

Thursday - Osvaldo - no feckin one
RK and the board will no doubt tell us after the event that legal issues meant they couldn't tell us a thing until the deals were done. In the meantime expect the following from sky sports Wednesday - Pochettino - gone Thursday - Lambert - done deal Friday - Lallana - done deal Saturday - Shaw - done deal Sunday - Lovren -done deal Monday - Clyne - done deal Tuesday - Schneiderlin - done deal Wednesday - Wanyama - done deal Thursday - Osvaldo - no feckin one deepheat
  • Score: 3

10:07am Fri 30 May 14

costa gaz says...

Epsom Saint wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
Reports last night suggested that the offer had been rejected. He hasn't gone anywhere yet - and I don't think the transfer window opens until July 1st.
No reports of bid rejected and the transfer window opened when the season finished.
[quote][p][bold]Epsom Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]Reports last night suggested that the offer had been rejected. He hasn't gone anywhere yet - and I don't think the transfer window opens until July 1st.[/p][/quote]No reports of bid rejected and the transfer window opened when the season finished. costa gaz
  • Score: 0

10:10am Fri 30 May 14

THE12THMAN says...

It seems that a lot of Liverpool fans are not to impressed with Brendan Rogers trying to sign Lambert, they seem to think the club should be signing players of a better calibre.
It seems that a lot of Liverpool fans are not to impressed with Brendan Rogers trying to sign Lambert, they seem to think the club should be signing players of a better calibre. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 1

10:12am Fri 30 May 14

costa gaz says...

redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
Look at you!!!! 33 thumbs up !!!!!, people are beginning to see the whole story. The penny is starting to drop.
Blind optimism is fading fast with realism taking over.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]Look at you!!!! 33 thumbs up !!!!!, people are beginning to see the whole story. The penny is starting to drop. Blind optimism is fading fast with realism taking over. costa gaz
  • Score: 1

10:15am Fri 30 May 14

pitbull says...

This is just my thoughts.
I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years, in that time I cannot recall a team getting so much closed season media attention that the Saints have been getting, unless they are relegated or in severe financial difficulty.
We are neither and this media coverage and rumour mongering almost seem unnatural.
It is as though somebody has an agenda against Southampton, somebody who wants to discredit the board, somebody who wants to prove a point, somebody who wants to destablize the club.
It would only take one person (and maybe a sidekick) to achieve the desired outcome, I think it's working really well.
This is just my thoughts. I have been supporting Saints for over 40 years, in that time I cannot recall a team getting so much closed season media attention that the Saints have been getting, unless they are relegated or in severe financial difficulty. We are neither and this media coverage and rumour mongering almost seem unnatural. It is as though somebody has an agenda against Southampton, somebody who wants to discredit the board, somebody who wants to prove a point, somebody who wants to destablize the club. It would only take one person (and maybe a sidekick) to achieve the desired outcome, I think it's working really well. pitbull
  • Score: 9

10:17am Fri 30 May 14

St.Gaz says...

How dose selling your England players improve are world wide appeal you would think having three Southampton players in the world cup squad would only improve are brand! So why sell them! It makes no sense?
How dose selling your England players improve are world wide appeal you would think having three Southampton players in the world cup squad would only improve are brand! So why sell them! It makes no sense? St.Gaz
  • Score: 4

10:18am Fri 30 May 14

flower49 says...

What is the point of a contract?
What is the point of a contract? flower49
  • Score: 2

10:26am Fri 30 May 14

RNsaint says...

ah a titanic moment. And the band played on as it sank to the depths
ah a titanic moment. And the band played on as it sank to the depths RNsaint
  • Score: 3

10:27am Fri 30 May 14

Rising_Son says...

flower49 wrote:
What is the point of a contract?
If there were no contracts, the players could all go for free.
[quote][p][bold]flower49[/bold] wrote: What is the point of a contract?[/p][/quote]If there were no contracts, the players could all go for free. Rising_Son
  • Score: 3

10:30am Fri 30 May 14

InCortesewetrust says...

redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing. InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 2

10:39am Fri 30 May 14

LFCalways says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing.
lol 4mill for your player and extra add on's and nowhere near the 9mill you lot thought.....been confirmed on Sky Sports News just secs ago....and Lambert is having medical tomorrow and has already agreed personal terms lololololol .

Oh what was that you say "In the Board we Trust!" lies lies lies as always.....next Lallana welcome to the big boys club ::)
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing.[/p][/quote]lol 4mill for your player and extra add on's and nowhere near the 9mill you lot thought.....been confirmed on Sky Sports News just secs ago....and Lambert is having medical tomorrow and has already agreed personal terms lololololol . Oh what was that you say "In the Board we Trust!" lies lies lies as always.....next Lallana welcome to the big boys club ::) LFCalways
  • Score: 0

10:41am Fri 30 May 14

redandy10 says...

costa gaz wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing.

Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT?

Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season.

Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst.

The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!!

PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
Look at you!!!! 33 thumbs up !!!!!, people are beginning to see the whole story. The penny is starting to drop.
Blind optimism is fading fast with realism taking over.
We might have been right mate, but I feel absolutely gutted. We were so close to getting in there and mixing it with the big clubs, all it needed was NC and some financial backing in the transfer market this summer. IMO Poch might have stuck around, instead of joining that Mickey Mouse london outfit. This would have had some influence on the players decision making, and the chance of keeping all of these great elements together would have increased.

Costa I honestly believe that we could have realistically qualified for Europe!!!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]Look at you!!!! 33 thumbs up !!!!!, people are beginning to see the whole story. The penny is starting to drop. Blind optimism is fading fast with realism taking over.[/p][/quote]We might have been right mate, but I feel absolutely gutted. We were so close to getting in there and mixing it with the big clubs, all it needed was NC and some financial backing in the transfer market this summer. IMO Poch might have stuck around, instead of joining that Mickey Mouse london outfit. This would have had some influence on the players decision making, and the chance of keeping all of these great elements together would have increased. Costa I honestly believe that we could have realistically qualified for Europe!!! redandy10
  • Score: 5

10:50am Fri 30 May 14

redandy10 says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!!
£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing.
I know mush. I believed KL's intentions were good, but she hasn't half ballsed it up. As for Ralph and his interview, and then on the same day the Rickie news, what's that all about?

If things had stayed as they were before January, we could seen NC's vision come to fruition.

The poster Steptoe commented that he couldn't get finance for his season ticket this year. Here's a guy that loves his club so much that so he'd do that to follow his club. With all these goings on it's fans like him I feel worse for. The fans deserve better!!!
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: I can't work out what the angle is with this whole selling Rickie thing. Firstly, why are we selling him BEFORE a new manager has been appointed? Shouldn't he have some input into this decision? Or does Rickie want out NO MATTER WHAT? Considering up front is our weakest area selling Lambert, and for ONLY £4 mill is strange. At this point having lost Poch and all of the transfer rumours surrounding our other players do we really want to pour oil on the fire by selling Lambert. If Lambert is good enough to go to Brazil then he's GOOD ENOUGH to play for us next season. Also the timing is strange, coming on the heels of Ralph's big interview with the DE, it seems to undermine his words, as flogging Rickie for so little DOESN'T seem to be in the club's BEST INTERESTS. It merely adds to this whole MASS EXODUS prediction, thus making things worst. The interview had the desired effect of calming SOME of the fans down, trouble is this sedative wore off after only a few hours thanks to the Rickie news!!! PLEASE, RALPH TELL US WHAT'S THE THINKING BEHIND THIS MOVE & THE TIMING OF IT!!!![/p][/quote]£4 million is a joke. We can't replace Lamberts all round game for £4 million on another player , he is more than just goals, this new bored has the vision of stevie wonder, we are becoming a joke, 5 year's hard work f*cked up in 5 month's, someone deserves a badge because that is some doing.[/p][/quote]I know mush. I believed KL's intentions were good, but she hasn't half ballsed it up. As for Ralph and his interview, and then on the same day the Rickie news, what's that all about? If things had stayed as they were before January, we could seen NC's vision come to fruition. The poster Steptoe commented that he couldn't get finance for his season ticket this year. Here's a guy that loves his club so much that so he'd do that to follow his club. With all these goings on it's fans like him I feel worse for. The fans deserve better!!! redandy10
  • Score: 6

10:52am Fri 30 May 14

saint61 says...

Little Hitler wrote:
If this happens....

WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER!

You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates?
the new manger I involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he as at Charlton
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: If this happens.... WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER! You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates?[/p][/quote]the new manger I involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he as at Charlton saint61
  • Score: 2

10:54am Fri 30 May 14

saint61 says...

saint61 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
If this happens....

WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER!

You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates?
the new manger I involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he as at Charlton
the new manger is involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he was at Charlton
[quote][p][bold]saint61[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: If this happens.... WE WANT ANSWERS KRUEGER! You said 24 hours before that the new manager would be involved but that you were still putting a list together of candidates?[/p][/quote]the new manger I involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he as at Charlton[/p][/quote]the new manger is involved LES REED. this is exactly what happened when he was at Charlton saint61
  • Score: 1

11:14am Fri 30 May 14

Les Miserables says...

So Mr Krueger makes a statement in which he is very clearly saying that nothing is happening transfer wise until we get the manager situation sorted and less than 48 hrs later every paper is full of "Ricky Lambert signing for Liverpool"!!
Either Mr Krueger lies worse than a £2 watch or he absolutely no control / influence over the actions of the football director ( Les "Fire Sale" Reed).

Either way cannot be good for SFC, at least Nicola said nothing until the clubs official statement was released, what we have now is apparently nothing more than paying lip service to and patronising loyal supporters, presumably to maintain season ticket renewals until the deadline tomorrow.

"Aiming for Europe" ???????? With what? Lots of promising kids will not keep you in the Premiership, we have tried that before under the Dark Lord Lowe and remember where that got us.

I really hate to be negative but with Jay out until at least October and Osvaldo about as popular with whatever is left of our squad as a french kiss at a family reunion what sort of imbecile would even consider selling our only recognised striker ??
The only conclusion sadly is that the club and its supporters are being sold down the river as the assets are stripped.

Shame on all involved, so sad to see Markus vision and his legacy trashed in this way.
So Mr Krueger makes a statement in which he is very clearly saying that nothing is happening transfer wise until we get the manager situation sorted and less than 48 hrs later every paper is full of "Ricky Lambert signing for Liverpool"!! Either Mr Krueger lies worse than a £2 watch or he absolutely no control / influence over the actions of the football director ( Les "Fire Sale" Reed). Either way cannot be good for SFC, at least Nicola said nothing until the clubs official statement was released, what we have now is apparently nothing more than paying lip service to and patronising loyal supporters, presumably to maintain season ticket renewals until the deadline tomorrow. "Aiming for Europe" ???????? With what? Lots of promising kids will not keep you in the Premiership, we have tried that before under the Dark Lord Lowe and remember where that got us. I really hate to be negative but with Jay out until at least October and Osvaldo about as popular with whatever is left of our squad as a french kiss at a family reunion what sort of imbecile would even consider selling our only recognised striker ?? The only conclusion sadly is that the club and its supporters are being sold down the river as the assets are stripped. Shame on all involved, so sad to see Markus vision and his legacy trashed in this way. Les Miserables
  • Score: 4

11:16am Fri 30 May 14

LFCalways says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
It seems that a lot of Liverpool fans are not to impressed with Brendan Rogers trying to sign Lambert, they seem to think the club should be signing players of a better calibre.
wrong lol.....4Mill lol next is lallana....welcome to the big boys league :)
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: It seems that a lot of Liverpool fans are not to impressed with Brendan Rogers trying to sign Lambert, they seem to think the club should be signing players of a better calibre.[/p][/quote]wrong lol.....4Mill lol next is lallana....welcome to the big boys league :) LFCalways
  • Score: 0

11:17am Fri 30 May 14

fritzer says...

The wheels didn't fall off this mighty club Kreuger took them off in a very short time as according to Sky Sports News SRL is having his medical for Liverpool tomorrow 31/05/2014
Kreuger is a liar and a cheat of which makes him a sports businessman of the first degree he has NO reputation and never has in this sport, why do you think that he is not working in his own sport "Ice Hockey" and how would the proposed new manager view this kind of action, what sort manager would even think of working for an organisation that goe's against their word? it certainly would not attract the best.
It seems to me like we'll sell off the assets first then we will sell off he club, there is some thing sinister going on and I would love to know what the true long term plan SFC really is.
The wheels didn't fall off this mighty club Kreuger took them off in a very short time as according to Sky Sports News SRL is having his medical for Liverpool tomorrow 31/05/2014 Kreuger is a liar and a cheat of which makes him a sports businessman of the first degree he has NO reputation and never has in this sport, why do you think that he is not working in his own sport "Ice Hockey" and how would the proposed new manager view this kind of action, what sort manager would even think of working for an organisation that goe's against their word? it certainly would not attract the best. It seems to me like we'll sell off the assets first then we will sell off he club, there is some thing sinister going on and I would love to know what the true long term plan SFC really is. fritzer
  • Score: 6

12:05pm Fri 30 May 14

bigfella777 says...

4.5 mill for a 32 yr old ta ta, glad to see the clear out make sure fonte goes as well. Osvaldo is still on the books.new manager will bring his own players standard practice.
4.5 mill for a 32 yr old ta ta, glad to see the clear out make sure fonte goes as well. Osvaldo is still on the books.new manager will bring his own players standard practice. bigfella777
  • Score: -1

12:29pm Fri 30 May 14

lancssaint says...

As a Saints fan of 40 years standing I can remember few such ominous or depressing periods, the feeling accentuated by the extreme highs of last season. Where is this going to end? I've been kidding myself that there's more to football than money. What a load of tripe.

We started with three players going to the World Cup. By the time England kick off against Italy it may be none. It's just a crying shame.

I think a trip to my therapist to wean me off football may be necessary, or possibly a blood transfusion.
As a Saints fan of 40 years standing I can remember few such ominous or depressing periods, the feeling accentuated by the extreme highs of last season. Where is this going to end? I've been kidding myself that there's more to football than money. What a load of tripe. We started with three players going to the World Cup. By the time England kick off against Italy it may be none. It's just a crying shame. I think a trip to my therapist to wean me off football may be necessary, or possibly a blood transfusion. lancssaint
  • Score: 1

12:30pm Fri 30 May 14

Bobs Your Uncle ? says...

deepheat wrote:
RK and the board will no doubt tell us after the event that legal issues meant they couldn't tell us a thing until the deals were done. In the meantime expect the following from sky sports

Wednesday - Pochettino - gone

Thursday - Lambert - done deal

Friday - Lallana - done deal

Saturday - Shaw - done deal

Sunday - Lovren -done deal

Monday - Clyne - done deal

Tuesday - Schneiderlin - done deal

Wednesday - Wanyama - done deal

Thursday - Osvaldo - no feckin one
cool 115 million from that lot .
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: RK and the board will no doubt tell us after the event that legal issues meant they couldn't tell us a thing until the deals were done. In the meantime expect the following from sky sports Wednesday - Pochettino - gone Thursday - Lambert - done deal Friday - Lallana - done deal Saturday - Shaw - done deal Sunday - Lovren -done deal Monday - Clyne - done deal Tuesday - Schneiderlin - done deal Wednesday - Wanyama - done deal Thursday - Osvaldo - no feckin one[/p][/quote]cool 115 million from that lot . Bobs Your Uncle ?
  • Score: 3

12:46pm Fri 30 May 14

deepheat says...

How about Paul Clement (Englishman) for manager?

Years Team
1996–1999 Chelsea (Academy Coach)
1999–2000 Fulham (Academy Coach)
2000 Republic Of Ireland U-21 (Coach)
2007–2011 Chelsea (Coach)
2011–2012 Blackburn Rovers (Assistant Coach)
2012–2013 Paris Saint-Germain (Assistant Coach)
2013– Real Madrid (Assistant Coach)
How about Paul Clement (Englishman) for manager? Years Team 1996–1999 Chelsea (Academy Coach) 1999–2000 Fulham (Academy Coach) 2000 Republic Of Ireland U-21 (Coach) 2007–2011 Chelsea (Coach) 2011–2012 Blackburn Rovers (Assistant Coach) 2012–2013 Paris Saint-Germain (Assistant Coach) 2013– Real Madrid (Assistant Coach) deepheat
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Fri 30 May 14

elvis says...

I am not even going to pretend that I know what is going on behind the scenes because like everyone else on here it would be no more than a guess .... but the people running our club must know what they are doing there is absolutely no way that they can't !! They could not stop Poch leaving & from a business point of view £4m plus for Riki is very good ( good luck to him .... he has been an all time great for us & I for one will always consider him a legend) as too who else follows him out of the door is anyone's guess ? But there is sure to be a plan in place ,the can't run off with the money equally the club would be far more valuable with players like Riki & JRod in place ,so I don't think a sale is on the horizon either ,which means there is some kind of method to this madness .... I said the other day I think there is a new manager already in place behind the scenes & I still believe that ....(there's no way there wasn't a plan b ) equally they can't be running to the press every 5 minutes to give updates ( much as we would like That ) but from what I understand Marcus daughter & Ralph Kruger have yet to seriously **** up in their professional careers & I think it would be very odd for them to do so now !! I'm sure their are plenty of people out there who will disagree but ask yourself this ....if reports are to be believed were M.P & N.C not plotting to sell SRL in January , if this is the case would there have been so much anger aimed at them ? X
I am not even going to pretend that I know what is going on behind the scenes because like everyone else on here it would be no more than a guess .... but the people running our club must know what they are doing there is absolutely no way that they can't !! They could not stop Poch leaving & from a business point of view £4m plus for Riki is very good ( good luck to him .... he has been an all time great for us & I for one will always consider him a legend) as too who else follows him out of the door is anyone's guess ? But there is sure to be a plan in place ,the can't run off with the money equally the club would be far more valuable with players like Riki & JRod in place ,so I don't think a sale is on the horizon either ,which means there is some kind of method to this madness .... I said the other day I think there is a new manager already in place behind the scenes & I still believe that ....(there's no way there wasn't a plan b ) equally they can't be running to the press every 5 minutes to give updates ( much as we would like That ) but from what I understand Marcus daughter & Ralph Kruger have yet to seriously **** up in their professional careers & I think it would be very odd for them to do so now !! I'm sure their are plenty of people out there who will disagree but ask yourself this ....if reports are to be believed were M.P & N.C not plotting to sell SRL in January , if this is the case would there have been so much anger aimed at them ? X elvis
  • Score: 1

12:56pm Fri 30 May 14

mack chinnon says...

I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey.
I blame the pasta eating surrender monkey. mack chinnon
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Fri 30 May 14

apm1954 says...

dont forget your season ticket needs renewing today ha ha ha one set of used goalposts for sale ,32000 used red seats , free to good home , i have been a saint since 1959 , enough is enough i now give up golf on saturdays from now on.
dont forget your season ticket needs renewing today ha ha ha one set of used goalposts for sale ,32000 used red seats , free to good home , i have been a saint since 1959 , enough is enough i now give up golf on saturdays from now on. apm1954
  • Score: 8

1:28pm Fri 30 May 14

Berkshire Saint says...

What's concerning for most Saints fans is the speed that this seems to be unravelling. I agree with other posts that the Liverpool move for Rickie (God bless him) could be a cynical once to unsettle their other targets (Lala and Lovren).

This is not how I imagined the summer to start following our most successful season in decades and I was looking forward to having three Saints players at the World Cup whereas now there's a real chance we won't have any. Surely it makes sense to keep Lala and Shaw until after the WC because if they play then their value can only increase where if they don't then they'll still be worth what they are today.

Looking forward to some positive news on Saints.............w
ell hears hoping
What's concerning for most Saints fans is the speed that this seems to be unravelling. I agree with other posts that the Liverpool move for Rickie (God bless him) could be a cynical once to unsettle their other targets (Lala and Lovren). This is not how I imagined the summer to start following our most successful season in decades and I was looking forward to having three Saints players at the World Cup whereas now there's a real chance we won't have any. Surely it makes sense to keep Lala and Shaw until after the WC because if they play then their value can only increase where if they don't then they'll still be worth what they are today. Looking forward to some positive news on Saints.............w ell hears hoping Berkshire Saint
  • Score: 3

1:30pm Fri 30 May 14

echo1948 says...

As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again.
As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again. echo1948
  • Score: 3

1:42pm Fri 30 May 14

ACTSaint says...

I can't believe all the doom and gloom… we were bottom of div 1 a few years ago and now have finished 8th in the premier league. Constant change in personnel is the nature of the industry. The board are professional people and are not going to allow the club to fall apart. Keep believing.
I can't believe all the doom and gloom… we were bottom of div 1 a few years ago and now have finished 8th in the premier league. Constant change in personnel is the nature of the industry. The board are professional people and are not going to allow the club to fall apart. Keep believing. ACTSaint
  • Score: 2

1:48pm Fri 30 May 14

ACTSaint says...

Is finishing 8th in the league and a couple of changes enough for people not to renew their season tickets? I am shocked with what I am reading here. Yes, it is disappointing but we are in so much better than many clubs, and to say that you have never seen the club in such a mess, I have to question your credentials as a supporter.
Is finishing 8th in the league and a couple of changes enough for people not to renew their season tickets? I am shocked with what I am reading here. Yes, it is disappointing but we are in so much better than many clubs, and to say that you have never seen the club in such a mess, I have to question your credentials as a supporter. ACTSaint
  • Score: 3

1:50pm Fri 30 May 14

notaclue says...

echo1948 wrote:
As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again.
You remember Micky Fialka? That was my low point of beng a Saints fan.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again.[/p][/quote]You remember Micky Fialka? That was my low point of beng a Saints fan. notaclue
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Fri 30 May 14

St.Ray says...

After 5 wonderful seasons at St. Mary's selling Rickie, aged 32, seems like good business to me. He was not an automatic selection last season under MP. With a new manager coming in it is time to start again. But will this move merely be the first in an almighty sell off that would be almost unprecedented in English football with the majority of the 1st. team squad being touted for moves. If this mass exodus happens one wonders where the Saints will be this time next year!
After 5 wonderful seasons at St. Mary's selling Rickie, aged 32, seems like good business to me. He was not an automatic selection last season under MP. With a new manager coming in it is time to start again. But will this move merely be the first in an almighty sell off that would be almost unprecedented in English football with the majority of the 1st. team squad being touted for moves. If this mass exodus happens one wonders where the Saints will be this time next year! St.Ray
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Fri 30 May 14

St.Gaz says...

Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back?
Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back? St.Gaz
  • Score: 2

3:30pm Fri 30 May 14

zambucco says...

First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld?

To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough.
Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost.

Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season.
For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's?

THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!!
First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld? To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough. Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost. Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season. For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's? THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!! zambucco
  • Score: 2

4:05pm Fri 30 May 14

Steve_N says...

St.Gaz wrote:
Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back?
Could be he's our only striker come August. Jeez!
[quote][p][bold]St.Gaz[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back?[/p][/quote]Could be he's our only striker come August. Jeez! Steve_N
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Fri 30 May 14

Steve_N says...

St.Gaz wrote:
Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back?
Could be he's our only striker come August. Jeez!
[quote][p][bold]St.Gaz[/bold] wrote: Hope this doesn't. Mean ozvaldo's on his way back?[/p][/quote]Could be he's our only striker come August. Jeez! Steve_N
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Fri 30 May 14

St.Ray says...

echo1948 wrote:
As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again.
I feel you may just be correct in your assumptions. One thing is for sure The Saints are in a turmoil & I don't think anyone can guess where the current situation will leave our Club. But as has been mentioned in other posts, we have been here before (or at least a very similar position) & we recovered, but, where will the new Markus come from?
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: As a loyal Saints supporter of some 55 years I have never seen my beloved club in such a mess.All I can think is there is a master plan in place, in which we sell off all of our assets for as much as possible, and then KL sells the club for as much as possible. That then leaves us back where we were before Marcus saved us. Hope I,m wrong but this smacks of Rupert Lowe all over again.[/p][/quote]I feel you may just be correct in your assumptions. One thing is for sure The Saints are in a turmoil & I don't think anyone can guess where the current situation will leave our Club. But as has been mentioned in other posts, we have been here before (or at least a very similar position) & we recovered, but, where will the new Markus come from? St.Ray
  • Score: 1

5:23pm Fri 30 May 14

upwherewebelong says...

I've given up trying to fathom out what on earth is going on at the club. Seems the only thing I can believe is that the fans support and love for the club will remain constant. As far as rumours, counter rumours and counter rumours to the counter rumours goes I surrender that the media's venomous anti Saints campaign will last the whole summer and nothing the club do or say will prevent it. Even the Echo seems staunchly anti Saints but at least cancelling my subscription should make a little ripple to them.
I've given up trying to fathom out what on earth is going on at the club. Seems the only thing I can believe is that the fans support and love for the club will remain constant. As far as rumours, counter rumours and counter rumours to the counter rumours goes I surrender that the media's venomous anti Saints campaign will last the whole summer and nothing the club do or say will prevent it. Even the Echo seems staunchly anti Saints but at least cancelling my subscription should make a little ripple to them. upwherewebelong
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Fri 30 May 14

Realitycheck53 says...

St.Ray wrote:
After 5 wonderful seasons at St. Mary's selling Rickie, aged 32, seems like good business to me. He was not an automatic selection last season under MP. With a new manager coming in it is time to start again. But will this move merely be the first in an almighty sell off that would be almost unprecedented in English football with the majority of the 1st. team squad being touted for moves. If this mass exodus happens one wonders where the Saints will be this time next year!
I dont want to be associated any longer with this ineptitude and total lack of sphericals. We need a new manager with a brain, a track record and big sphericals NOW, whilst we still have a team left. It is no good looking to Sam Gallagher he is still learning the game. Letting Ricky go without a replacement secured was just plain stupid. I was so proud of Luke, Ricky and Adam and looking forward to the WC. Now frankly a very large part of me wishes them nothing but ill and I really hope they flop. I never thought I would ever say that about England but I feel seriously let down and betrayed by them and by the board. Football is NOT about business - it is about the fans and it is a sport that engages passions. Unless something really positive happens soon, I shall be seeking my money back on two season tickets. Just what is the point of ambition when success just leads to this sort of horrow show? Good riddance to the scheming slippery MP and for god's sake Krueger stand up to the "big 4" bullies and tell them what to do with their stinking money!
[quote][p][bold]St.Ray[/bold] wrote: After 5 wonderful seasons at St. Mary's selling Rickie, aged 32, seems like good business to me. He was not an automatic selection last season under MP. With a new manager coming in it is time to start again. But will this move merely be the first in an almighty sell off that would be almost unprecedented in English football with the majority of the 1st. team squad being touted for moves. If this mass exodus happens one wonders where the Saints will be this time next year![/p][/quote]I dont want to be associated any longer with this ineptitude and total lack of sphericals. We need a new manager with a brain, a track record and big sphericals NOW, whilst we still have a team left. It is no good looking to Sam Gallagher he is still learning the game. Letting Ricky go without a replacement secured was just plain stupid. I was so proud of Luke, Ricky and Adam and looking forward to the WC. Now frankly a very large part of me wishes them nothing but ill and I really hope they flop. I never thought I would ever say that about England but I feel seriously let down and betrayed by them and by the board. Football is NOT about business - it is about the fans and it is a sport that engages passions. Unless something really positive happens soon, I shall be seeking my money back on two season tickets. Just what is the point of ambition when success just leads to this sort of horrow show? Good riddance to the scheming slippery MP and for god's sake Krueger stand up to the "big 4" bullies and tell them what to do with their stinking money! Realitycheck53
  • Score: 3

6:24pm Fri 30 May 14

Realitycheck53 says...

zambucco wrote:
First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld?

To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough.
Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost.

Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season.
For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's?

THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!!
Zambuco - that is wildly optimistic. we dont have a King or a general and the soldiers are deserting. I see no sign whatsoever that Saints would do anything as sensible as determinedly going for Danny Ings, Lukaku, Tom Ince or any one of several other "no brainer" options. If I did I would quickly start to feel a whole lot better. However, by the time we join the race, if ever, the transfer window will be over and Saints will be on their way back to the Championship for sure.
[quote][p][bold]zambucco[/bold] wrote: First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld? To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough. Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost. Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season. For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's? THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!![/p][/quote]Zambuco - that is wildly optimistic. we dont have a King or a general and the soldiers are deserting. I see no sign whatsoever that Saints would do anything as sensible as determinedly going for Danny Ings, Lukaku, Tom Ince or any one of several other "no brainer" options. If I did I would quickly start to feel a whole lot better. However, by the time we join the race, if ever, the transfer window will be over and Saints will be on their way back to the Championship for sure. Realitycheck53
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Fri 30 May 14

Oldfan says...

Lambert is a class act and will be missed by Saints. As I see it we are in deep mire.
Lambert is a class act and will be missed by Saints. As I see it we are in deep mire. Oldfan
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Fri 30 May 14

hugh123 says...

Are there any other Premiership clubs in meltdown?? We keep hearing about all the stars and the manager, but nothing concrete about the other way! Are we looking at replacement players? If so who? There are rumours about possible managers, but, again nothing more than just rumours.
Having said that you have to wish Rickie the best of luck. He always gave 110% for Saints and I'm sure he will do the same at Anfield.
Are there any other Premiership clubs in meltdown?? We keep hearing about all the stars and the manager, but nothing concrete about the other way! Are we looking at replacement players? If so who? There are rumours about possible managers, but, again nothing more than just rumours. Having said that you have to wish Rickie the best of luck. He always gave 110% for Saints and I'm sure he will do the same at Anfield. hugh123
  • Score: 0

7:07pm Fri 30 May 14

cliffwalker says...

Why do people persist in talking about their club when the Saints (and, as far as I'm aware, none of the premiership teams) is not a club in any meaningful sense of the word. It's a business and it's owners not their customers (the fans who buy the tickets) will do what's best from a profitability point of view. If you can't accept that then you are living in a dream world.
Why do people persist in talking about their club when the Saints (and, as far as I'm aware, none of the premiership teams) is not a club in any meaningful sense of the word. It's a business and it's owners not their customers (the fans who buy the tickets) will do what's best from a profitability point of view. If you can't accept that then you are living in a dream world. cliffwalker
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Fri 30 May 14

Oldfan says...

cliffwalker wrote:
Why do people persist in talking about their club when the Saints (and, as far as I'm aware, none of the premiership teams) is not a club in any meaningful sense of the word. It's a business and it's owners not their customers (the fans who buy the tickets) will do what's best from a profitability point of view. If you can't accept that then you are living in a dream world.
Perhaps but a lot of businesses recognize the simple fact that their success depends on their customers and they buy into them. So it seems that we don't have a club a club or a very good business?
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: Why do people persist in talking about their club when the Saints (and, as far as I'm aware, none of the premiership teams) is not a club in any meaningful sense of the word. It's a business and it's owners not their customers (the fans who buy the tickets) will do what's best from a profitability point of view. If you can't accept that then you are living in a dream world.[/p][/quote]Perhaps but a lot of businesses recognize the simple fact that their success depends on their customers and they buy into them. So it seems that we don't have a club a club or a very good business? Oldfan
  • Score: 0

11:19pm Fri 30 May 14

saintofatheism says...

Wow' most of you on here seem very deluded or poorly educated about the workings of premiership football, how is any of this bad.ricky has left to live the dream and play CL for his childhood club whilst he still can. The manager wanted to leave (possibly for some time now) so you let him go and hire someone else, by the sound of it, someone of "high calibre" there will be more decent players going I don't doubt, and almost certainly decent players coming in. As for the board misleading fans, I'm sure it's not a easy task to juggle media and keep the fans of this amazing club happy. This isn't optimism , this is a view from outside the box . The bigger picture. Don't forget where we were over 5 years ago.
Wow' most of you on here seem very deluded or poorly educated about the workings of premiership football, how is any of this bad.ricky has left to live the dream and play CL for his childhood club whilst he still can. The manager wanted to leave (possibly for some time now) so you let him go and hire someone else, by the sound of it, someone of "high calibre" there will be more decent players going I don't doubt, and almost certainly decent players coming in. As for the board misleading fans, I'm sure it's not a easy task to juggle media and keep the fans of this amazing club happy. This isn't optimism , this is a view from outside the box . The bigger picture. Don't forget where we were over 5 years ago. saintofatheism
  • Score: 3

1:57am Sat 31 May 14

Rising_Son says...

Realitycheck53 wrote:
zambucco wrote:
First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld?

To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough.
Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost.

Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season.
For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's?

THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!!
Zambuco - that is wildly optimistic. we dont have a King or a general and the soldiers are deserting. I see no sign whatsoever that Saints would do anything as sensible as determinedly going for Danny Ings, Lukaku, Tom Ince or any one of several other "no brainer" options. If I did I would quickly start to feel a whole lot better. However, by the time we join the race, if ever, the transfer window will be over and Saints will be on their way back to the Championship for sure.
Tom Ince! Why?
[quote][p][bold]Realitycheck53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]zambucco[/bold] wrote: First Guly, now Lambert who next Hooiveld? To be honest, he's been talismanic for us a true Saint. But it seems good business £4m+ for a player who in truth was struggling with our style. By the end of the season he looked tired and his goal tally, just wasn't quite enough. Put the money towards Danny Ings or similar, we have Sam Gallagher champing at the bit, Jay rod (if he's still here) to come back. Who knows who will step up to seize the crown? Probably the same if Lallana and Shaw leave, is it beyond the realms of possibility that Ramireez will relish the chance to be chief playmaker in midfield. By all accounts Matt Targett is as good as Shaw. We will have a huge budget and a new manager, all is not lost. Maybe I'm deluded or just plain crazy, but I'm buzzing for the new season. For me it's not the end of the world, and maybe as fans we have been kidding ourselves that all is Rosy down at St. Mary's? THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!" COYR!!![/p][/quote]Zambuco - that is wildly optimistic. we dont have a King or a general and the soldiers are deserting. I see no sign whatsoever that Saints would do anything as sensible as determinedly going for Danny Ings, Lukaku, Tom Ince or any one of several other "no brainer" options. If I did I would quickly start to feel a whole lot better. However, by the time we join the race, if ever, the transfer window will be over and Saints will be on their way back to the Championship for sure.[/p][/quote]Tom Ince! Why? Rising_Son
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Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

This is an attempt to destabilise Southampton pure and simple.
This is an attempt to destabilise Southampton pure and simple. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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