Shaw told Saints on final day of last season he wanted to leave

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SAINTS starlet Luke Shaw is reported to have told Saints that he wanted to leave the club on the final day of last season.

The England international left back apparently informed Saints of his desire to join Manchester United just hours after the 1-1 draw with the Red Devils at St Mary's on May 11.

The Daily Echo last week reported that both Adam Lallana and Shaw were keen to leave, and wanted their futures sorted out prior to the World Cup starting.

But that is unlikely to happen, with any transfers now expected to take place after the tournament in Brazil which starts this Thursday.

Shaw and Lallana both signed new five year contracts with Saints in 2013.

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9:00am Mon 9 Jun 14

Andover Saint says...

if he wants to go then go...i think its only one goal he has set up, he hasn't scored a goal and left backs are replaceable....espec
ially with 30 million!!
if he wants to go then go...i think its only one goal he has set up, he hasn't scored a goal and left backs are replaceable....espec ially with 30 million!! Andover Saint
  • Score: 127

9:03am Mon 9 Jun 14

mark.s says...

Will the last one out please turn off the lights.
Will the last one out please turn off the lights. mark.s
  • Score: -67

9:04am Mon 9 Jun 14

Poole Tom says...

Plus an appropriate sell on clause!
Plus an appropriate sell on clause! Poole Tom
  • Score: 79

9:16am Mon 9 Jun 14

wrypop says...

Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit!
Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit! wrypop
  • Score: 83

9:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

boilerman says...

If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's?
If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's? boilerman
  • Score: 104

9:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 79

9:25am Mon 9 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Funny really, but just as the rumours were beginning to suggest that ManU's interest in Shaw was cooling, we get this little gem.
Funny really, but just as the rumours were beginning to suggest that ManU's interest in Shaw was cooling, we get this little gem. Rising_Son
  • Score: 31

9:26am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold.
It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 34

9:26am Mon 9 Jun 14

ecuk268 says...

boilerman wrote:
If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's?
Exactly.

If they request a transfer, they don't get the rest of their contract paid (or, more likely , a portion of it).
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's?[/p][/quote]Exactly. If they request a transfer, they don't get the rest of their contract paid (or, more likely , a portion of it). ecuk268
  • Score: 36

9:27am Mon 9 Jun 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Right I'm putting this one on the pure speculation not based on fact list of Saints stories since the end of the season. (And by God have there been many of those!) I still think there is a more then even money chance that Shaw will go but I seriously doubt this story. How is it possible that this has been kept quiet so long. My honest, but probably misguided, opinion is that the "big clubs" are agitating in the press because they aren't getting what they want to hear from St Mary's. Just a thought but maybe we could get Lovren to tap up "want away" Croatian striker Mandzukic while they are in Brazil. Finally, here's hoping RK can sign RK in the next day or so.
Right I'm putting this one on the pure speculation not based on fact list of Saints stories since the end of the season. (And by God have there been many of those!) I still think there is a more then even money chance that Shaw will go but I seriously doubt this story. How is it possible that this has been kept quiet so long. My honest, but probably misguided, opinion is that the "big clubs" are agitating in the press because they aren't getting what they want to hear from St Mary's. Just a thought but maybe we could get Lovren to tap up "want away" Croatian striker Mandzukic while they are in Brazil. Finally, here's hoping RK can sign RK in the next day or so. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 19

9:28am Mon 9 Jun 14

pitbull says...

We've read a lot from these players saying how much the previous manager had an influence with their careers.

I'm starting to understand what sort of influence they meant.

"I'm leaving, so should you" maybe.
We've read a lot from these players saying how much the previous manager had an influence with their careers. I'm starting to understand what sort of influence they meant. "I'm leaving, so should you" maybe. pitbull
  • Score: 33

9:33am Mon 9 Jun 14

andoru says...

Did he at least wait until they were off the pitch?
Did he at least wait until they were off the pitch? andoru
  • Score: 24

9:33am Mon 9 Jun 14

saintsfan76 says...

When something definate happens run a story when its just rumour and speculation put it on the Rumour Mill thread. Nothing will now happen transfer wise till after the World Cup. Whatever will the Echo have to write about? Well hopefully soon a new manager. Lets hope so.
When something definate happens run a story when its just rumour and speculation put it on the Rumour Mill thread. Nothing will now happen transfer wise till after the World Cup. Whatever will the Echo have to write about? Well hopefully soon a new manager. Lets hope so. saintsfan76
  • Score: 11

9:39am Mon 9 Jun 14

pitbull says...

saintsfan76 wrote:
When something definate happens run a story when its just rumour and speculation put it on the Rumour Mill thread. Nothing will now happen transfer wise till after the World Cup. Whatever will the Echo have to write about? Well hopefully soon a new manager. Lets hope so.
It was in the Rumour Mill thread, but the Echo replaced it with the Chambers rumour and decided that this one merited a "headline" of it's own.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: When something definate happens run a story when its just rumour and speculation put it on the Rumour Mill thread. Nothing will now happen transfer wise till after the World Cup. Whatever will the Echo have to write about? Well hopefully soon a new manager. Lets hope so.[/p][/quote]It was in the Rumour Mill thread, but the Echo replaced it with the Chambers rumour and decided that this one merited a "headline" of it's own. pitbull
  • Score: 10

9:39am Mon 9 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

wrypop wrote:
Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit!
A whole lot of sense 'Wrypop' in amongst some of the drivel I've read on here in the last few weeks !
[quote][p][bold]wrypop[/bold] wrote: Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit![/p][/quote]A whole lot of sense 'Wrypop' in amongst some of the drivel I've read on here in the last few weeks ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 8

9:48am Mon 9 Jun 14

05che13 says...

Luke never was the brightest spark. Look at Zaha. If he really cared about being the best in his position he would stay a few more years. If he only cares about his wallet then he'll leave. Wonder what he'll pick. Plus why sign a contract if you're going to leave 1 year later. These players should be forced to finish their contracts or accept the fact they they wont leave without a hugely inflated offer (£30m+)
Luke never was the brightest spark. Look at Zaha. If he really cared about being the best in his position he would stay a few more years. If he only cares about his wallet then he'll leave. Wonder what he'll pick. Plus why sign a contract if you're going to leave 1 year later. These players should be forced to finish their contracts or accept the fact they they wont leave without a hugely inflated offer (£30m+) 05che13
  • Score: 23

9:51am Mon 9 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

All these little snippets come from players agents who have very convenient arrangements with certain media and will earn a fortune if they can get their client a move.

Lallana and Shaw do not need to say a word, their agents do it for them.

Schneirderlin and Chambers have not said anything but we hear all sorts in certain papers, this also is being orchestrated by footballs no;1 parasites.

I believe that some stories are leaked with out the players knowledge, just to turn the players head..... in the hope that some club might think they are available.
The murky world of footballs parasites.
All these little snippets come from players agents who have very convenient arrangements with certain media and will earn a fortune if they can get their client a move. Lallana and Shaw do not need to say a word, their agents do it for them. Schneirderlin and Chambers have not said anything but we hear all sorts in certain papers, this also is being orchestrated by footballs no;1 parasites. I believe that some stories are leaked with out the players knowledge, just to turn the players head..... in the hope that some club might think they are available. The murky world of footballs parasites. costa gaz
  • Score: 30

9:52am Mon 9 Jun 14

gazw1976 says...

bull , if he wanted out why then buy a property down here an move from london at the same time .
bull , if he wanted out why then buy a property down here an move from london at the same time . gazw1976
  • Score: 11

9:53am Mon 9 Jun 14

killared says...

I had a chat with a die hard Saints fan about Luke Shaw and he told me we could let him go if we want because we can replace him easily but Lallana must stay if we want to aim higher next season. He told Luke Shaw is good but not Bale good so we can let him go. Lallana must stay if we want to aim higher next season .
I had a chat with a die hard Saints fan about Luke Shaw and he told me we could let him go if we want because we can replace him easily but Lallana must stay if we want to aim higher next season. He told Luke Shaw is good but not Bale good so we can let him go. Lallana must stay if we want to aim higher next season . killared
  • Score: 4

9:53am Mon 9 Jun 14

Folkestone Saint says...

I feel this is a conversation that has been spun to read as if Luke can't wait to leave, rather than a chat between two people that more than likely went like this, Gigg's "so Luke would you want to play for us?" Luke "yea sure, one day, but I'm on a contract here for another four years so not yet, but I will let them know I would like to play for your lot"
I feel this is a conversation that has been spun to read as if Luke can't wait to leave, rather than a chat between two people that more than likely went like this, Gigg's "so Luke would you want to play for us?" Luke "yea sure, one day, but I'm on a contract here for another four years so not yet, but I will let them know I would like to play for your lot" Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 2

9:53am Mon 9 Jun 14

halibutjackson says...

Once again another story with no source given. Even if it said 'a source within the club' or more likely 'a source with the initials NC'. But instead it just says 'it has been reported'.
Once again another story with no source given. Even if it said 'a source within the club' or more likely 'a source with the initials NC'. But instead it just says 'it has been reported'. halibutjackson
  • Score: 5

9:54am Mon 9 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED.
Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED. Shareholder
  • Score: 32

9:58am Mon 9 Jun 14

Sutton Saint says...

Does a contract have any meaning these day? Why would a developing player want to move at 18? Surely a couple more years would be sensible.

I find it incredible that someone signs a five year contract and within a year tries to get out of it. Surely his parents made him understand what a commitment is? It shows a side of football, Luke Shaw and agents that the majority of us find annoying and frustrating with the game we love. What happened to loyalty and decency?
Does a contract have any meaning these day? Why would a developing player want to move at 18? Surely a couple more years would be sensible. I find it incredible that someone signs a five year contract and within a year tries to get out of it. Surely his parents made him understand what a commitment is? It shows a side of football, Luke Shaw and agents that the majority of us find annoying and frustrating with the game we love. What happened to loyalty and decency? Sutton Saint
  • Score: 18

10:00am Mon 9 Jun 14

pitbull says...

halibutjackson wrote:
Once again another story with no source given. Even if it said 'a source within the club' or more likely 'a source with the initials NC'. But instead it just says 'it has been reported'.
The original source was Ben "anti-Saints"Smith

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/0/football/27
758163
[quote][p][bold]halibutjackson[/bold] wrote: Once again another story with no source given. Even if it said 'a source within the club' or more likely 'a source with the initials NC'. But instead it just says 'it has been reported'.[/p][/quote]The original source was Ben "anti-Saints"Smith http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/0/football/27 758163 pitbull
  • Score: 9

10:02am Mon 9 Jun 14

saint christopher says...

Once upon a time, in the fairy tale world of a kingdom far away known as St.Mary's .....

Blah, blah, blah, blah ... (this is where the media and us fans can all write our own little stories - which will be just that because none will be based on actual facts)

...... and they all lived happily ever after.

(which I have every confidence will be the case once RK is in post, players have settled down, those who still want to go are sold for exorbitant amounts of money, and quality replacements and reinforcements have been brought in).
Once upon a time, in the fairy tale world of a kingdom far away known as St.Mary's ..... Blah, blah, blah, blah ... (this is where the media and us fans can all write our own little stories - which will be just that because none will be based on actual facts) ...... and they all lived happily ever after. (which I have every confidence will be the case once RK is in post, players have settled down, those who still want to go are sold for exorbitant amounts of money, and quality replacements and reinforcements have been brought in). saint christopher
  • Score: 11

10:04am Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -24

10:08am Mon 9 Jun 14

St. Teach says...

How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES! St. Teach
  • Score: 10

10:16am Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

And the key part of the article is...

"Shaw and Lallana both signed new five year contracts with Saints in 2013."

Oops. That's a shame then.

I'm happy to take the money on Luke though, as long as we get a good price.

Adam stays as far as I'm concerned and just knuckles down and gets on with it. If he's a bit angry about that then maybe he can use that energy on the pitch.

It annoys me a bit I have to say - if this is all true, which I think it is, clearly Mo Po had told all his senior players he was off well in advance. Perhaps Luke would still have wanted a move to Man Utd, but I don't think he'd have been as disrespectful as to ask on the final day if Mo Po was staying. So why didn't the board get wind of this and have a replacement lined up and talk to the players to reassure them?
And the key part of the article is... "Shaw and Lallana both signed new five year contracts with Saints in 2013." Oops. That's a shame then. I'm happy to take the money on Luke though, as long as we get a good price. Adam stays as far as I'm concerned and just knuckles down and gets on with it. If he's a bit angry about that then maybe he can use that energy on the pitch. It annoys me a bit I have to say - if this is all true, which I think it is, clearly Mo Po had told all his senior players he was off well in advance. Perhaps Luke would still have wanted a move to Man Utd, but I don't think he'd have been as disrespectful as to ask on the final day if Mo Po was staying. So why didn't the board get wind of this and have a replacement lined up and talk to the players to reassure them? SaintJD
  • Score: 8

10:16am Mon 9 Jun 14

notaclue says...

If its not true then he can sort all this out on twitter in the next 24hrs. Silence......
If its not true then he can sort all this out on twitter in the next 24hrs. Silence...... notaclue
  • Score: 3

10:17am Mon 9 Jun 14

St. Teach says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
I have problems with this story. Firstly, selling the club is not necessarily a bad thing. It could go to another rich owner with big ambitions. Secondly, being told it will happen in two years gives you time to see what KL's plans are. She may want to inflate the value of the club through continued success. Thirdly, the offer of a bigger contract is indicative of a board that wants more success, not one that is giving up. Fourthly, I have heard several reports that some of Poch's staff were swayed by the larger contracts and wanted to stay. It is logical that Poch may have persuaded them by inflating this story about the club's demise.

I don't douobt he told you this. However, I doubt a lot of its authenticity because, really, it makes little to no sense. It smacks of excuses given to appease the neighbour.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]I have problems with this story. Firstly, selling the club is not necessarily a bad thing. It could go to another rich owner with big ambitions. Secondly, being told it will happen in two years gives you time to see what KL's plans are. She may want to inflate the value of the club through continued success. Thirdly, the offer of a bigger contract is indicative of a board that wants more success, not one that is giving up. Fourthly, I have heard several reports that some of Poch's staff were swayed by the larger contracts and wanted to stay. It is logical that Poch may have persuaded them by inflating this story about the club's demise. I don't douobt he told you this. However, I doubt a lot of its authenticity because, really, it makes little to no sense. It smacks of excuses given to appease the neighbour. St. Teach
  • Score: 23

10:19am Mon 9 Jun 14

Malcombe says...

Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank..
I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked.

Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.
Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank.. I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked. Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue. Malcombe
  • Score: 3

10:33am Mon 9 Jun 14

hagbourneutd says...

wrypop wrote:
Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit!
Most sensible post on here for a while my views exactly plus koeman as low as 1-3 with the bookies now sounds promising.
[quote][p][bold]wrypop[/bold] wrote: Again, it would seem that despite the doubters, moaners and gloom and doom merchants, the Saints Board have stuck to their guns. Lambert was good and sensible business. This week it appears the Board are seeing Koeman again, surely that is more to finalize the minutiae and should end up being confirmation of his appointment followed by an announcement. If that is the case then it will be exciting times at St Mary's, and who knows, they may even play in a red & white stripped kit![/p][/quote]Most sensible post on here for a while my views exactly plus koeman as low as 1-3 with the bookies now sounds promising. hagbourneutd
  • Score: 3

10:34am Mon 9 Jun 14

Jonny Maths says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold.
incorrect. he just realised ( with the help of his agent ) that signing a long deal with Saints mean't he,the club, his future club and the agent himself will all be happy with a £25M+ move this summer. If we get £50M for AL and LS we are laughing..... I say goodbye , good luck and onwards and upwards for Saints,,, with hopefully a decent manager who has £80Mish to build a great new squad for the next phase of the journey...
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold.[/p][/quote]incorrect. he just realised ( with the help of his agent ) that signing a long deal with Saints mean't he,the club, his future club and the agent himself will all be happy with a £25M+ move this summer. If we get £50M for AL and LS we are laughing..... I say goodbye , good luck and onwards and upwards for Saints,,, with hopefully a decent manager who has £80Mish to build a great new squad for the next phase of the journey... Jonny Maths
  • Score: 5

10:34am Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
I sympathise with what you are saying, assuming it is accurate, but if the owner wants to establish the club at its current level and then cash in two years later. Why shouldn't she? She is not in business to please the supporters of a football club. She is in business to make a profit and please herself. And Ralph is there to do her bidding. Her risk assessment my well be it is too risky to invest heavily in expensive players when the chances of an enhanced return is low.

Not what we want, but we are only emotional share holders, the heart beat of the club, the reason it keeps going and we are also totally powerless. What she is doing keeps the cost down and the risks under control and maximises the profit when the world is in the middle of an economic upturn in two years time.

Good business sense from her perspective. An opportunity missed from our POV. Bring on Ron and let's see how we get on.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]I sympathise with what you are saying, assuming it is accurate, but if the owner wants to establish the club at its current level and then cash in two years later. Why shouldn't she? She is not in business to please the supporters of a football club. She is in business to make a profit and please herself. And Ralph is there to do her bidding. Her risk assessment my well be it is too risky to invest heavily in expensive players when the chances of an enhanced return is low. Not what we want, but we are only emotional share holders, the heart beat of the club, the reason it keeps going and we are also totally powerless. What she is doing keeps the cost down and the risks under control and maximises the profit when the world is in the middle of an economic upturn in two years time. Good business sense from her perspective. An opportunity missed from our POV. Bring on Ron and let's see how we get on. george chivers
  • Score: 11

10:35am Mon 9 Jun 14

pitbull says...

St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Ben"Anti-Saints"Smit
h has the initials BASS.

Sounds a bit fishy to me.
[quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Ben"Anti-Saints"Smit h has the initials BASS. Sounds a bit fishy to me. pitbull
  • Score: 4

10:36am Mon 9 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

If we are to believe all the rumours of players leaving,next season we should all take our boots down to St. Mary,s and perhaps we might get a game!
If we are to believe all the rumours of players leaving,next season we should all take our boots down to St. Mary,s and perhaps we might get a game! echo1948
  • Score: 10

10:37am Mon 9 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

HEADLINE reads: Shaw told Saints on final day of last season he wanted to leave.

FIRST LINE reads: SAINTS starlet Luke Shaw IS REPORTED TO HAVE told Saints that he wanted to leave the club on the final day of last season.

Can I spot the newsworthy story? ...........



....................
.... er, no, I'm still looking.

This is just another thread that those w@nkers who claim to be from Liverpool and Manchester will have wrecked within 5 minutes of them waking up; which will be about 10 minutes before the first pub on Portsea Island opens it's doors this lunchtime.
HEADLINE reads: Shaw told Saints on final day of last season he wanted to leave. FIRST LINE reads: SAINTS starlet Luke Shaw IS REPORTED TO HAVE told Saints that he wanted to leave the club on the final day of last season. Can I spot the newsworthy story? ........... .................... .... er, no, I'm still looking. This is just another thread that those w@nkers who claim to be from Liverpool and Manchester will have wrecked within 5 minutes of them waking up; which will be about 10 minutes before the first pub on Portsea Island opens it's doors this lunchtime. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 9

10:37am Mon 9 Jun 14

pitbull says...

Even if you leave out the "Anti-Saints" bit. Ben Smith still has the initials BS, and we all know what that stands for on the internet.
Even if you leave out the "Anti-Saints" bit. Ben Smith still has the initials BS, and we all know what that stands for on the internet. pitbull
  • Score: 14

10:44am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Malcombe wrote:
Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank..
I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked.

Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.
In case you missed it Victor has already refuted what was said, saying he was quoted out of context, and doesn't have any intention of leaving. You can believe him or the Press, you chose. However if the price and circumstances are right........
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank.. I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked. Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.[/p][/quote]In case you missed it Victor has already refuted what was said, saying he was quoted out of context, and doesn't have any intention of leaving. You can believe him or the Press, you chose. However if the price and circumstances are right........ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 8

10:46am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -4

11:02am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jonny Maths wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold.
incorrect. he just realised ( with the help of his agent ) that signing a long deal with Saints mean't he,the club, his future club and the agent himself will all be happy with a £25M+ move this summer. If we get £50M for AL and LS we are laughing..... I say goodbye , good luck and onwards and upwards for Saints,,, with hopefully a decent manager who has £80Mish to build a great new squad for the next phase of the journey...
If true it was a hell of a gamble that could backfire with a vengeance. Had he done a JRod, how much would he be worth now?
[quote][p][bold]Jonny Maths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: It strikes me that he was being tapped up, someone must have been influencing him as it conflicts with what he had said previously about staying here to learn the ropes. As a young player he was likely to be very naive about what the future could offer him. He may have said something to that effect, but being on a contract complicates it somewhat, if he still feels that way, then I guess he will have to put it officially on paper because we don't have to let him go, he will lose a lot if he takes that road. No actual source is quoted, so did he say I would love to play for Manchester United, translated as I want to leave Southampton? There has been an awful lot of undermining reports coming from the Press, but a lot of it isn't apparently based on actual facts. OK I am biased and would not like him to leave but should he be genuine and not want to stay, then I wouldn't stand in his way, especially if the price was right. I want players who want to play for me (as a fan) and my Club, not mercenaries in pursuit of a pot of gold.[/p][/quote]incorrect. he just realised ( with the help of his agent ) that signing a long deal with Saints mean't he,the club, his future club and the agent himself will all be happy with a £25M+ move this summer. If we get £50M for AL and LS we are laughing..... I say goodbye , good luck and onwards and upwards for Saints,,, with hopefully a decent manager who has £80Mish to build a great new squad for the next phase of the journey...[/p][/quote]If true it was a hell of a gamble that could backfire with a vengeance. Had he done a JRod, how much would he be worth now? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:12am Mon 9 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price?

I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price? I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it? Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

11:15am Mon 9 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

A 30 MILLION POUND TRADEABLE ASSET and may be very useful is secuing our TOP STRIKER - which are a scare resource.

GK and another CB are easier to secure - and perhaps a PACY GOAL SCORING WINGER. COYR
A 30 MILLION POUND TRADEABLE ASSET and may be very useful is secuing our TOP STRIKER - which are a scare resource. GK and another CB are easier to secure - and perhaps a PACY GOAL SCORING WINGER. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

11:15am Mon 9 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Malcombe wrote:
Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank..
I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked.

Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.
I thought Victor said that he had been misquoted. Has he said something new or have you chosen not to believe him?
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank.. I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked. Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.[/p][/quote]I thought Victor said that he had been misquoted. Has he said something new or have you chosen not to believe him? Rising_Son
  • Score: 5

11:20am Mon 9 Jun 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Malcombe wrote:
Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank..
I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked.

Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.
Why do you always randomly capitalise words?!
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank.. I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked. Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.[/p][/quote]Why do you always randomly capitalise words?! Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 3

11:25am Mon 9 Jun 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
It doesn't sound like the careful, prudent business planning that the Liebherr's are known for. It sounds pretty risky to tell your manager that you're planning to sell in two years. He might tell the players, then he and the players will want to leave, we'll have to buy a whole new team and *hope* to repeat the success of this year so as to maintain the club's value.

Surely if she had plans to sell she'd cash out when the stock is highest, i.e. now after a meteoric rise and some of the best young players in the league, not gamble that everything will stay the same or better for two years once the master plan is out of the bag...

I believe you were told it, but I certainly don't buy it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]It doesn't sound like the careful, prudent business planning that the Liebherr's are known for. It sounds pretty risky to tell your manager that you're planning to sell in two years. He might tell the players, then he and the players will want to leave, we'll have to buy a whole new team and *hope* to repeat the success of this year so as to maintain the club's value. Surely if she had plans to sell she'd cash out when the stock is highest, i.e. now after a meteoric rise and some of the best young players in the league, not gamble that everything will stay the same or better for two years once the master plan is out of the bag... I believe you were told it, but I certainly don't buy it. Sainty saint saint
  • Score: 10

11:28am Mon 9 Jun 14

Confucious says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys. Confucious
  • Score: 21

11:30am Mon 9 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
Where's Harry Potter when we need him?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Where's Harry Potter when we need him? Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

11:38am Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion. george chivers
  • Score: 1

11:48am Mon 9 Jun 14

saint christopher says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
Just what we all need.

A good dose of depression and "we are all doomed" regarding our future prospects is the ideal way to approach the uncertainties that exist around manager and players.

Then if it all goes pear-shaped over the next few weeks we can all console ourselves with the thought that we saw it coming anyway and it's not surprising it's all gone west. On the other hand, any brightness and good news will shine the more brightly and be more eagerly rejoiced over and embraced.

Simple.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Just what we all need. A good dose of depression and "we are all doomed" regarding our future prospects is the ideal way to approach the uncertainties that exist around manager and players. Then if it all goes pear-shaped over the next few weeks we can all console ourselves with the thought that we saw it coming anyway and it's not surprising it's all gone west. On the other hand, any brightness and good news will shine the more brightly and be more eagerly rejoiced over and embraced. Simple. saint christopher
  • Score: -1

11:49am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.dailystar
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/382824/Luke-Shaw-s
-move-to-Man-Utd-in-
jeoprady-as-Louis-Va
n-Gaal-eyes-Barcelon
a-star-Jordi-Alba

Probably as accurate as the spelling in the headline?
http://www.dailystar .co.uk/sport/footbal l/382824/Luke-Shaw-s -move-to-Man-Utd-in- jeoprady-as-Louis-Va n-Gaal-eyes-Barcelon a-star-Jordi-Alba Probably as accurate as the spelling in the headline? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:50am Mon 9 Jun 14

Benali76 says...

"It's been reported......" In other words someone in the media (Ben Smith apparently) has column inches to fill and the rest run the story based on that. It means nothing. When we get the new manager in, and the odds a shortening on that being Big Ron, we will see who he wants and who wants to play for him. The players are at the world cup so when they return they might see we have a top manager and a couple of top signings. Then we will find out who stays and who goes. Until then it it pointless meaningless speculation. Let's just enjoy the world cup. Come on England.
"It's been reported......" In other words someone in the media (Ben Smith apparently) has column inches to fill and the rest run the story based on that. It means nothing. When we get the new manager in, and the odds a shortening on that being Big Ron, we will see who he wants and who wants to play for him. The players are at the world cup so when they return they might see we have a top manager and a couple of top signings. Then we will find out who stays and who goes. Until then it it pointless meaningless speculation. Let's just enjoy the world cup. Come on England. Benali76
  • Score: 7

11:51am Mon 9 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
Maybe, given the chance, we should have signed Moses after all.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]Maybe, given the chance, we should have signed Moses after all. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

11:54am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

11:54am Mon 9 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now.

Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years.

Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership. search for the truth
  • Score: -17

11:58am Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
Where's Harry Potter when we need him?
Or Harry Houdini?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Where's Harry Potter when we need him?[/p][/quote]Or Harry Houdini? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:01pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Benali76 wrote:
"It's been reported......" In other words someone in the media (Ben Smith apparently) has column inches to fill and the rest run the story based on that. It means nothing. When we get the new manager in, and the odds a shortening on that being Big Ron, we will see who he wants and who wants to play for him. The players are at the world cup so when they return they might see we have a top manager and a couple of top signings. Then we will find out who stays and who goes. Until then it it pointless meaningless speculation. Let's just enjoy the world cup. Come on England.
Totally agree - let's enjoy the World Cup
- I still think that these competitions would be
more fun if they were knock- out from the start -
this goes fir the Champions' League, too.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: "It's been reported......" In other words someone in the media (Ben Smith apparently) has column inches to fill and the rest run the story based on that. It means nothing. When we get the new manager in, and the odds a shortening on that being Big Ron, we will see who he wants and who wants to play for him. The players are at the world cup so when they return they might see we have a top manager and a couple of top signings. Then we will find out who stays and who goes. Until then it it pointless meaningless speculation. Let's just enjoy the world cup. Come on England.[/p][/quote]Totally agree - let's enjoy the World Cup - I still think that these competitions would be more fun if they were knock- out from the start - this goes fir the Champions' League, too. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 3

12:01pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Sell him and buy cresswell from ipswich.
Sell him and buy cresswell from ipswich. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -5

12:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now.

Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years.

Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
And, the Skates will be playing Salisbury the following season in the Skrill!!
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]And, the Skates will be playing Salisbury the following season in the Skrill!! Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 9

12:06pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now.

Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years.

Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
That's an interesting interpretation of what happened, coming from an outsider, even the most inquisitive Saints fans still don't know what actually happened, the indications are that the Club did their best to hang on to MoPo, but after NC left it was only a matter of time before he went too. 12th would be impressive considering the fact that eight or nine players are leaving. Hopefully once the new gaffer is in he will bring in his own players, using the booty gained from the sell offs, but it will take a lot of patience and a lot of time to get everything up to snuff in time for the new Season. Anything 17th or over would be a miracle if the Neggies are to be heeded.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]That's an interesting interpretation of what happened, coming from an outsider, even the most inquisitive Saints fans still don't know what actually happened, the indications are that the Club did their best to hang on to MoPo, but after NC left it was only a matter of time before he went too. 12th would be impressive considering the fact that eight or nine players are leaving. Hopefully once the new gaffer is in he will bring in his own players, using the booty gained from the sell offs, but it will take a lot of patience and a lot of time to get everything up to snuff in time for the new Season. Anything 17th or over would be a miracle if the Neggies are to be heeded. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:06pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price?

I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?
In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result.

I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years?

George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans.

I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price? I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?[/p][/quote]In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result. I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years? George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans. I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Mon 9 Jun 14

saint phil says...

IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is
IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is saint phil
  • Score: 12

12:26pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Andover Saint says...

search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would. Andover Saint
  • Score: 5

12:27pm Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out. george chivers
  • Score: 2

12:32pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

"Shaw told Saints on final day of last season he wanted to leave"

Well there's gratitude for you after all he's learned from here - still £30m and a 25% sell on clause and another £5m for every 10 internationals he plays in will do nicely......
"Shaw told Saints on final day of last season he wanted to leave" Well there's gratitude for you after all he's learned from here - still £30m and a 25% sell on clause and another £5m for every 10 internationals he plays in will do nicely...... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 5

12:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

long memory says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
Brilliant ,sarcasm at its best.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Brilliant ,sarcasm at its best. long memory
  • Score: 9

12:43pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Jonny Maths says...

search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now.

Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years.

Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
MoPo was not the manager many thought he was.... talk to anyone in Spain that knows football... I spoke to someone at christmas at the Camp Nou and he told me MoPo would soon find it hard to get goals playing the way he does and look for an excuse to leave or millions to spend.... he was right. The spanish generally seem to think he is rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]MoPo was not the manager many thought he was.... talk to anyone in Spain that knows football... I spoke to someone at christmas at the Camp Nou and he told me MoPo would soon find it hard to get goals playing the way he does and look for an excuse to leave or millions to spend.... he was right. The spanish generally seem to think he is rubbish. Jonny Maths
  • Score: 2

12:44pm Mon 9 Jun 14

St. Case says...

ecuk268 wrote:
boilerman wrote:
If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's?
Exactly.

If they request a transfer, they don't get the rest of their contract paid (or, more likely , a portion of it).
If they go somewhere and triple their paycheck, they should be made to hand in a transfer request! The fans may then accept the boards decision to sell, without all the moaning about sacking the board. If the players mind is elsewhere, we should let them go, but only when the boards valuation is met.
Matt Target is said to be an even bigger prospect than Shaw, and surely there are players who could replace Lallana. There will be a lot of money to spend, hopefully on the right players. COYR!
[quote][p][bold]ecuk268[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: If they want to leave why don't they put in written transfer request's?[/p][/quote]Exactly. If they request a transfer, they don't get the rest of their contract paid (or, more likely , a portion of it).[/p][/quote]If they go somewhere and triple their paycheck, they should be made to hand in a transfer request! The fans may then accept the boards decision to sell, without all the moaning about sacking the board. If the players mind is elsewhere, we should let them go, but only when the boards valuation is met. Matt Target is said to be an even bigger prospect than Shaw, and surely there are players who could replace Lallana. There will be a lot of money to spend, hopefully on the right players. COYR! St. Case
  • Score: 3

12:44pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Confucious says...

saint phil wrote:
IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is
They already know that.

If you read Chapter 4 Verse 7 of "The Vision According to Nicola" it states: "If ever evil banishes 'The Vision' at this saintly club ye shall flee to another. And ye must then flee again and again from club to club throughout Ye Premier League and not finish the flight until 'The Vision' comes again."
[quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is[/p][/quote]They already know that. If you read Chapter 4 Verse 7 of "The Vision According to Nicola" it states: "If ever evil banishes 'The Vision' at this saintly club ye shall flee to another. And ye must then flee again and again from club to club throughout Ye Premier League and not finish the flight until 'The Vision' comes again." Confucious
  • Score: 7

1:02pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Confucious wrote:
saint phil wrote:
IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is
They already know that.

If you read Chapter 4 Verse 7 of "The Vision According to Nicola" it states: "If ever evil banishes 'The Vision' at this saintly club ye shall flee to another. And ye must then flee again and again from club to club throughout Ye Premier League and not finish the flight until 'The Vision' comes again."
I didn't like the bloke much because of the way he treated staff, suppliers, visiting club directors, the media etc. However, it's impossible to argue with the success he brought with year on year improvement. No other team has as many home produced and therefore 'free' players as we do.

Boruc, Clyne, Chambers, Fonte, Schniderlin, Shaw, Lallana, Cork, Lambert, Davis were all between £0 and £2m.

Jay Rod and Lovren £7m a piece. Fack all in the EPL.

The only 'expensive' players were Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama. One doesn't even play for us, one shows flashes but doesn't really deliver and the other I do rate. Sell, one two or three of these and buy Rickies replacement and if there's any change get a CB.

We may never see another opportunity like this and whatever your view point one thing that's for sure is that it isn't being handled well hence the depression amongst so many Saints fans - and that's after our equal best ever Prem season and three Saints being called up for the WC!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is[/p][/quote]They already know that. If you read Chapter 4 Verse 7 of "The Vision According to Nicola" it states: "If ever evil banishes 'The Vision' at this saintly club ye shall flee to another. And ye must then flee again and again from club to club throughout Ye Premier League and not finish the flight until 'The Vision' comes again."[/p][/quote]I didn't like the bloke much because of the way he treated staff, suppliers, visiting club directors, the media etc. However, it's impossible to argue with the success he brought with year on year improvement. No other team has as many home produced and therefore 'free' players as we do. Boruc, Clyne, Chambers, Fonte, Schniderlin, Shaw, Lallana, Cork, Lambert, Davis were all between £0 and £2m. Jay Rod and Lovren £7m a piece. Fack all in the EPL. The only 'expensive' players were Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama. One doesn't even play for us, one shows flashes but doesn't really deliver and the other I do rate. Sell, one two or three of these and buy Rickies replacement and if there's any change get a CB. We may never see another opportunity like this and whatever your view point one thing that's for sure is that it isn't being handled well hence the depression amongst so many Saints fans - and that's after our equal best ever Prem season and three Saints being called up for the WC! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

1:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

kiddynamite says...

Relegation next season lads, Cheer up! Its only football and at keast Eastleigh are up and coming!!!
Relegation next season lads, Cheer up! Its only football and at keast Eastleigh are up and coming!!! kiddynamite
  • Score: -10

1:13pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

costa gaz wrote:
All these little snippets come from players agents who have very convenient arrangements with certain media and will earn a fortune if they can get their client a move.

Lallana and Shaw do not need to say a word, their agents do it for them.

Schneirderlin and Chambers have not said anything but we hear all sorts in certain papers, this also is being orchestrated by footballs no;1 parasites.

I believe that some stories are leaked with out the players knowledge, just to turn the players head..... in the hope that some club might think they are available.
The murky world of footballs parasites.
I agree with this. I once said that the agents have two options - a few Bob in beer money to keep advising their players or a few million in commission to agitate a juicy move. Agents should be BANNED.
After all, how do they live if there is no tranfer (and worst of all, they would have to trade in their Porche).
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: All these little snippets come from players agents who have very convenient arrangements with certain media and will earn a fortune if they can get their client a move. Lallana and Shaw do not need to say a word, their agents do it for them. Schneirderlin and Chambers have not said anything but we hear all sorts in certain papers, this also is being orchestrated by footballs no;1 parasites. I believe that some stories are leaked with out the players knowledge, just to turn the players head..... in the hope that some club might think they are available. The murky world of footballs parasites.[/p][/quote]I agree with this. I once said that the agents have two options - a few Bob in beer money to keep advising their players or a few million in commission to agitate a juicy move. Agents should be BANNED. After all, how do they live if there is no tranfer (and worst of all, they would have to trade in their Porche). Saint Jinx
  • Score: 6

1:14pm Mon 9 Jun 14

apm1954 says...

did he not sign a new contract if so make him stay.
did he not sign a new contract if so make him stay. apm1954
  • Score: -1

1:19pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
[quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments. Saint Jinx
  • Score: -4

1:23pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bstokesaint says...

This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further. bstokesaint
  • Score: 11

1:24pm Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
One, two, Kruger's going to sell you, three, four then he'll sell some more.

Would make a great new instalment of the popular horror franchise, with Luke, Adam and Rickie taking it in turns to get liquidised by the dirty striped-jumper wearing anti-hero.

'Freddie' Krueger could also take on Jason (aptly wearing an ice-hockey mask) in a spin-off based on the popular youth team manager.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]One, two, Kruger's going to sell you, three, four then he'll sell some more. Would make a great new instalment of the popular horror franchise, with Luke, Adam and Rickie taking it in turns to get liquidised by the dirty striped-jumper wearing anti-hero. 'Freddie' Krueger could also take on Jason (aptly wearing an ice-hockey mask) in a spin-off based on the popular youth team manager. SaintJD
  • Score: -2

1:29pm Mon 9 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Tell Luke & Adam NO, they can't go. Same as Villa told Benteke & Liverpool told Suarez last season.
They only signed new 5 yr contracts last year because the club was continuing to move forward. Nothing has changed. After a good season Saints are now ready to continue up again next season, so why go.

Their leaving has to be in the best interest of both club & player. The reported offers are only half what they are worth and a replacement for Adam is not available.

Therefore Ralph & Les tell them they are going nowhere for the next season or two. Then get on and sign a top high profile new manager and the top players so Adam & Luke can achieve their ambition here.
Tell Luke & Adam NO, they can't go. Same as Villa told Benteke & Liverpool told Suarez last season. They only signed new 5 yr contracts last year because the club was continuing to move forward. Nothing has changed. After a good season Saints are now ready to continue up again next season, so why go. Their leaving has to be in the best interest of both club & player. The reported offers are only half what they are worth and a replacement for Adam is not available. Therefore Ralph & Les tell them they are going nowhere for the next season or two. Then get on and sign a top high profile new manager and the top players so Adam & Luke can achieve their ambition here. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 5

1:31pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Beer Monster says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now.

Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years.

Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
And, the Skates will be playing Salisbury the following season in the Skrill!!
Up the Whites! Got a soft spot for the place after having worked there for six years in the past, some cracking boozers and they used to hold Salisbury Beer Festival at the football stadium - got to meet a few ex-Saints because of this :-)
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]And, the Skates will be playing Salisbury the following season in the Skrill!![/p][/quote]Up the Whites! Got a soft spot for the place after having worked there for six years in the past, some cracking boozers and they used to hold Salisbury Beer Festival at the football stadium - got to meet a few ex-Saints because of this :-) Beer Monster
  • Score: -2

1:38pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price?

I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?
In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result.

I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years?

George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans.

I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.
Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price? I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?[/p][/quote]In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result. I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years? George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans. I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.[/p][/quote]Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

1:43pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:47pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
Bless you my son, you are forgiven. Just keep the faith when others are falling all around you. The truth is out there somewhere, I doubt you will find it on an Echo sports thread.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]Bless you my son, you are forgiven. Just keep the faith when others are falling all around you. The truth is out there somewhere, I doubt you will find it on an Echo sports thread. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:48pm Mon 9 Jun 14

milton road says...

Again even on the BBC web none of this has a single real quote its just speculation.
Interesting though in the Daily Express Man Utd's interest in Shaw cools as they look to make a move for Jordi Alba of Barcelona for 15 million.
You know the media are so contradictory it was only a couple of weeks ago the BBC said Utd faced a tough task convincing Shaw to leave Southampton.
The realism is that the papers are making it up as they go along, its summer and other than the world cup there is little football going on, they need to stir interest.
Saints have it seems made it clear they will not accept a deal for Shaw and Lallana on the never never. If and a big if they were to consider a sale they would want the money upfront, no add ons and what ifs and at their price. They call the tune not other clubs or Lallana or Shaw. So it may not even be the clubs that Lallana and Shaw want that may come up with a price that Saints see as acceptable, if any price is. Saints do not have to sell to Liverpool or Utd, even if Lallana and Shaw want those clubs.
We have 2 big clubs one who wants to revamp their squad and probably 6-7 players and are trying to do it by playing less than the player is worth and then with impossible addons. The other wanting to build a quality squad in depth trying to do the same thing. They both have set budgets and are trying to pull as many players in as possible by only paying a percntage of their worth up front. Which allows them to bring in four or five instead of two and three. At the end of the day that is their problem not Saints and saints do not have to accept that sort of deal.
If both players were to put in a transfer request and refused to play which i very much doubt, you let them sit out, how long will they do that for when they have England careers to think of, not long.
Saints have them on long contracts and have no need to be blackmailed by any club or player.

In relation to the club's future and past. One paper said at the time Cortese left that several bids for Saints had been made one reportedly by a buyer who would of installed Cortese as chairman, they had all been turned down because KL has no intention of selling Saints That KL would progress the club but at a slower rate than Cortese wanted and therefore Cortese left.

The word was also out that as soon as there was a smell of Tottenham interest Pochettino was keen to go. He saw Tottenham as the springboard to Real Madrid, where already allegedly he is being lined up as next manager when they decide to find a new manager whether now or in two years but he needs to achieve something in that time to finally convince them that he is the right man. He felt he could get almost immediate results with Spurs but Saints would be two to three years behind that.

There has been a lot of talk in the papers that Saints will give the new manager 50 million to spend and any money if players leave. Losing Poch was a blow and that is why the new manager coming in really does have to be the right man and the board have to show real ambition on the transfer front to calm waters within the club
Again even on the BBC web none of this has a single real quote its just speculation. Interesting though in the Daily Express Man Utd's interest in Shaw cools as they look to make a move for Jordi Alba of Barcelona for 15 million. You know the media are so contradictory it was only a couple of weeks ago the BBC said Utd faced a tough task convincing Shaw to leave Southampton. The realism is that the papers are making it up as they go along, its summer and other than the world cup there is little football going on, they need to stir interest. Saints have it seems made it clear they will not accept a deal for Shaw and Lallana on the never never. If and a big if they were to consider a sale they would want the money upfront, no add ons and what ifs and at their price. They call the tune not other clubs or Lallana or Shaw. So it may not even be the clubs that Lallana and Shaw want that may come up with a price that Saints see as acceptable, if any price is. Saints do not have to sell to Liverpool or Utd, even if Lallana and Shaw want those clubs. We have 2 big clubs one who wants to revamp their squad and probably 6-7 players and are trying to do it by playing less than the player is worth and then with impossible addons. The other wanting to build a quality squad in depth trying to do the same thing. They both have set budgets and are trying to pull as many players in as possible by only paying a percntage of their worth up front. Which allows them to bring in four or five instead of two and three. At the end of the day that is their problem not Saints and saints do not have to accept that sort of deal. If both players were to put in a transfer request and refused to play which i very much doubt, you let them sit out, how long will they do that for when they have England careers to think of, not long. Saints have them on long contracts and have no need to be blackmailed by any club or player. In relation to the club's future and past. One paper said at the time Cortese left that several bids for Saints had been made one reportedly by a buyer who would of installed Cortese as chairman, they had all been turned down because KL has no intention of selling Saints That KL would progress the club but at a slower rate than Cortese wanted and therefore Cortese left. The word was also out that as soon as there was a smell of Tottenham interest Pochettino was keen to go. He saw Tottenham as the springboard to Real Madrid, where already allegedly he is being lined up as next manager when they decide to find a new manager whether now or in two years but he needs to achieve something in that time to finally convince them that he is the right man. He felt he could get almost immediate results with Spurs but Saints would be two to three years behind that. There has been a lot of talk in the papers that Saints will give the new manager 50 million to spend and any money if players leave. Losing Poch was a blow and that is why the new manager coming in really does have to be the right man and the board have to show real ambition on the transfer front to calm waters within the club milton road
  • Score: 8

2:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price?

I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?
In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result.

I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years?

George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans.

I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.
Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was.
It could be that they want to sell all the players for lots of money and then sell the stadium so that a new shopping centre or maybe more flats can be built on the site.

You can never really tell how the minds of the mega rich work , they didn't make money by being nice friendly people, who didn't see an opportunity for a fast buck if it came their way.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price? I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?[/p][/quote]In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result. I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years? George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans. I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.[/p][/quote]Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was.[/p][/quote]It could be that they want to sell all the players for lots of money and then sell the stadium so that a new shopping centre or maybe more flats can be built on the site. You can never really tell how the minds of the mega rich work , they didn't make money by being nice friendly people, who didn't see an opportunity for a fast buck if it came their way. search for the truth
  • Score: -6

2:16pm Mon 9 Jun 14

abbiscuits says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Malcombe wrote:
Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank..
I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked.

Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.
In case you missed it Victor has already refuted what was said, saying he was quoted out of context, and doesn't have any intention of leaving. You can believe him or the Press, you chose. However if the price and circumstances are right........
Quite agree.
Cork, Spider and Davies can do a job better than Victor anyway, although he's improving I'd be interested if any offers have been put in for him and his current value.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Luke will go because rumours are true as we've all found out, he'll go because he wants to earn another £80000 more than his present Salary and much as we don't want him to go you can't blame him and have some sympathy for his Agent will be laughing all the way to the Bank.. I posted some weeks ago that there could be a Traitor at the Club, a Mole who is not a loyal Southampton Employee or Supporter but an informer in a job at the Club where access to certain confidential info is either stored or recorded or both, if there is such a person passing information then they must be rooted out and sacked. Another Player who has got itchy feet is Wanyama, he like the other Players worshipped the Deceitful One and complimented him for what he had learnt under him and wanted him to continue as Manager, Victor said The Deceitful One had and this is laughable, The Passion for the Club so the Board should of done more to keep him, does this mean Victor was the only one who wasn't told by Potchettino in January that he intends to leave at the end of the season? IMO Victor is undermining the Board and the new Manager who could be more likeable, experienced and versatile and have a plan B that the previous Manager didn't have and be more successful, perhaps Victors comments were done in the heat of the moment. Victor is young and from a different Culture and just because he learnt a lot from Potchettino it doesn't make Potchettino an honest, loyal and passionate Manager for a Club he was far from it as it's turned out and Victor is jumping the Gun because he could learn even more under the next Manager as we often say patience is a virtue.[/p][/quote]In case you missed it Victor has already refuted what was said, saying he was quoted out of context, and doesn't have any intention of leaving. You can believe him or the Press, you chose. However if the price and circumstances are right........[/p][/quote]Quite agree. Cork, Spider and Davies can do a job better than Victor anyway, although he's improving I'd be interested if any offers have been put in for him and his current value. abbiscuits
  • Score: 3

2:18pm Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary. SaintJD
  • Score: 4

2:25pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

2:30pm Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Rumour has it that Roy picked Luke ahead of Cole for the World Cup to give him invaluable experience of sitting on the bench watching overrated players play football. Will come in handy next season.

Also reassuring to see that, following a couple of games where the Saints lads looked a bit 'out of place' (meaning they looked hungry and actually quite good), they are quickly evolving and fitting right in with the indifference and general arrogance of their under performing big club peers.

For a few minutes I thought our guys were treating friendly games like proper matches rather than only aiming to (unsuccessfully) turn it on for big matches. No wonder they think they are ready for the big clubs.
Rumour has it that Roy picked Luke ahead of Cole for the World Cup to give him invaluable experience of sitting on the bench watching overrated players play football. Will come in handy next season. Also reassuring to see that, following a couple of games where the Saints lads looked a bit 'out of place' (meaning they looked hungry and actually quite good), they are quickly evolving and fitting right in with the indifference and general arrogance of their under performing big club peers. For a few minutes I thought our guys were treating friendly games like proper matches rather than only aiming to (unsuccessfully) turn it on for big matches. No wonder they think they are ready for the big clubs. SaintJD
  • Score: 11

2:36pm Mon 9 Jun 14

saintmac says...

If the new manager signs a contract for 2 years that will in, my opinion, give
more truth to the rumours of the Club being sold in that timescale.
If the new manager signs a contract for 2 years that will in, my opinion, give more truth to the rumours of the Club being sold in that timescale. saintmac
  • Score: 4

2:40pm Mon 9 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Of five Saints fans asked in a street poll all five said they found the prospect of Katharina watching her bush burn was quite distasteful.
Of five Saints fans asked in a street poll all five said they found the prospect of Katharina watching her bush burn was quite distasteful. jls217
  • Score: 0

2:48pm Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Out of interest - considering Luke and Adam's agents are such good advisers, I assume they told them to put release clauses in their five year contracts that could be activated when a certain bid was received?

No? Oh dear. Looks like they are screwed then, unless we choose to sell. I'd suggest they decide to treat the club with some respect because we have a lot of power over their future careers.

Of course this might upset the likes of Winchester Saint, who thinks we should just let them go if they don't want to play for us.

Personally though, while clearly I'd like everyone to be happy and recognise Adam's loyalty over the years, we didn't get him to sign that contract under threat of death.

While I'm sure he will be naffed off, perhaps seriously so, I think he's also decent enough to knuckle down and accept facts.

Come on Ronald K, come in, get a good deal for Luke and tell the others that nobody else is going anywhere.

We're on a journey, they are signed up to the end and, unless we chuck them off the coach for fighting, they ain't getting off.
Out of interest - considering Luke and Adam's agents are such good advisers, I assume they told them to put release clauses in their five year contracts that could be activated when a certain bid was received? No? Oh dear. Looks like they are screwed then, unless we choose to sell. I'd suggest they decide to treat the club with some respect because we have a lot of power over their future careers. Of course this might upset the likes of Winchester Saint, who thinks we should just let them go if they don't want to play for us. Personally though, while clearly I'd like everyone to be happy and recognise Adam's loyalty over the years, we didn't get him to sign that contract under threat of death. While I'm sure he will be naffed off, perhaps seriously so, I think he's also decent enough to knuckle down and accept facts. Come on Ronald K, come in, get a good deal for Luke and tell the others that nobody else is going anywhere. We're on a journey, they are signed up to the end and, unless we chuck them off the coach for fighting, they ain't getting off. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

3:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
On a Brazilian blackbird.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]On a Brazilian blackbird. george chivers
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Mon 9 Jun 14

kiddynamite says...

SFC For Sale!
SFC For Sale! kiddynamite
  • Score: -8

3:20pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
On a Brazilian blackbird.
After a night out with a cockatoo.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]On a Brazilian blackbird.[/p][/quote]After a night out with a cockatoo. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

3:44pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
Describe the previous worst that you saw then?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]Describe the previous worst that you saw then? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price?

I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?
In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result.

I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years?

George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans.

I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.
Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was.
It could be that they want to sell all the players for lots of money and then sell the stadium so that a new shopping centre or maybe more flats can be built on the site.

You can never really tell how the minds of the mega rich work , they didn't make money by being nice friendly people, who didn't see an opportunity for a fast buck if it came their way.
Markus Liebherr kind of broke the mould on that subject, hopefully his daughter will perpetuate his vision. Since she has been watching games at St Marys she seems to have bought into it, but only time will tell whether that is true or not. Her general demeanour would suggest that we are safe for now, I can't ask for more than that at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]Seed, Does that story really make sense? What would be the effect of "keeping the club ticking over for a couple of years" be on the selling price? I don't the answer to that, but I can't see how it would lead to a bigger profit for KL. How would you explain it?[/p][/quote]In answer to you and the others that have commented on my post I too cannot see the logic in some of it either. I was also told KL went to MoPo's home and spent five hours trying to persuade him to change his mind. That bonus's have now been refused and there was a spat over returning data sticks with wages being withheld as a result. I give my word that the above is what I was told first hand, this bit is speculation. What if the rumours were true a year or so ago that the club was up for sale? What if the right buyer couldn't be found? When Cortese went and KL took over maybe she felt duty bound to say the club was not for sale and therefore it's off the market for a couple of years? George is right that it's up to her to sell or not. But what if her board have misread the situation and the result of their mismanagement is that players form a queue at the exit and the club plunges into crisis? That does not benefit KL nor does it benefit us the fans. I still believe that this is a massive opportunity, best since 1984 which is now 30 years ago and it seems to me that Ralph is making a pigs ear of it. The club has low levels of debt compared to others. You can't stand still in any business, you either push on or you get out.[/p][/quote]Never doubted that it was what you were told. It just didn't make sense to me, and I wondered what your take on it was.[/p][/quote]It could be that they want to sell all the players for lots of money and then sell the stadium so that a new shopping centre or maybe more flats can be built on the site. You can never really tell how the minds of the mega rich work , they didn't make money by being nice friendly people, who didn't see an opportunity for a fast buck if it came their way.[/p][/quote]Markus Liebherr kind of broke the mould on that subject, hopefully his daughter will perpetuate his vision. Since she has been watching games at St Marys she seems to have bought into it, but only time will tell whether that is true or not. Her general demeanour would suggest that we are safe for now, I can't ask for more than that at the moment. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
On a Brazilian blackbird.
After a night out with a cockatoo.
In the Burning Bush Cavern, sorry Tavern.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]On a Brazilian blackbird.[/p][/quote]After a night out with a cockatoo.[/p][/quote]In the Burning Bush Cavern, sorry Tavern. george chivers
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
I sympathise with what you are saying, assuming it is accurate, but if the owner wants to establish the club at its current level and then cash in two years later. Why shouldn't she? She is not in business to please the supporters of a football club. She is in business to make a profit and please herself. And Ralph is there to do her bidding. Her risk assessment my well be it is too risky to invest heavily in expensive players when the chances of an enhanced return is low.

Not what we want, but we are only emotional share holders, the heart beat of the club, the reason it keeps going and we are also totally powerless. What she is doing keeps the cost down and the risks under control and maximises the profit when the world is in the middle of an economic upturn in two years time.

Good business sense from her perspective. An opportunity missed from our POV. Bring on Ron and let's see how we get on.
All good points.

Unless someoned coughs up the truth in an autobiography we will never know for sure, but its plausible and in a few months colud be proven beyond doubt if thats how it plays out.

In the meantime the emotional investors (the fans) are becoming weary of the uncertainty. Im beginning to doubt that the Koeman position as ever more than a phone call. Im fed up with the Lallana/Shaw/Lovren soap opera.

The word in the City for ages was that we were for sale, that was definitely the case one year ago, even after MoPo arrived but there is little if any talk about it now. That could mean we are not up for sale .. or it could mean we are being sold to overseas investors and the UK connections are not being used.


Ther are a many chapetsr still unread in this story and there will be a lot happening before we kick another premiership football. We just have to sit tigth and watch it all happen.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]I sympathise with what you are saying, assuming it is accurate, but if the owner wants to establish the club at its current level and then cash in two years later. Why shouldn't she? She is not in business to please the supporters of a football club. She is in business to make a profit and please herself. And Ralph is there to do her bidding. Her risk assessment my well be it is too risky to invest heavily in expensive players when the chances of an enhanced return is low. Not what we want, but we are only emotional share holders, the heart beat of the club, the reason it keeps going and we are also totally powerless. What she is doing keeps the cost down and the risks under control and maximises the profit when the world is in the middle of an economic upturn in two years time. Good business sense from her perspective. An opportunity missed from our POV. Bring on Ron and let's see how we get on.[/p][/quote]All good points. Unless someoned coughs up the truth in an autobiography we will never know for sure, but its plausible and in a few months colud be proven beyond doubt if thats how it plays out. In the meantime the emotional investors (the fans) are becoming weary of the uncertainty. Im beginning to doubt that the Koeman position as ever more than a phone call. Im fed up with the Lallana/Shaw/Lovren soap opera. The word in the City for ages was that we were for sale, that was definitely the case one year ago, even after MoPo arrived but there is little if any talk about it now. That could mean we are not up for sale .. or it could mean we are being sold to overseas investors and the UK connections are not being used. Ther are a many chapetsr still unread in this story and there will be a lot happening before we kick another premiership football. We just have to sit tigth and watch it all happen. Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

4:34pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Sussex Jay says...

Swap shaw for Bertrand demba na and Moses,sell lalla to Liverpool,sign lescott and man city big goal kipper,sign ashley young and spend lalla money on lakaku, job done coyr!!!
Swap shaw for Bertrand demba na and Moses,sell lalla to Liverpool,sign lescott and man city big goal kipper,sign ashley young and spend lalla money on lakaku, job done coyr!!! Sussex Jay
  • Score: -6

4:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

LITTLE BOY TRYING TO MAKE A NAME IN JOURNALISM
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO. FROM ? ANOTHER D.E. PRAT THAT WANTS A PAY RISE 11
LITTLE BOY TRYING TO MAKE A NAME IN JOURNALISM WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO. FROM ? ANOTHER D.E. PRAT THAT WANTS A PAY RISE 11 CHARLIE TAYLOR
  • Score: -1

5:02pm Mon 9 Jun 14

ctsaint says...

saint phil wrote:
IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is
I didn't think it had come to that! I am in where do I sign? COYR
[quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is[/p][/quote]I didn't think it had come to that! I am in where do I sign? COYR ctsaint
  • Score: 1

5:03pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
Describe the previous worst that you saw then?
I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale.
It gave me a right Tern though.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]Describe the previous worst that you saw then?[/p][/quote]I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale. It gave me a right Tern though. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:08pm Mon 9 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

CHARLIE TAYLOR wrote:
LITTLE BOY TRYING TO MAKE A NAME IN JOURNALISM
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO. FROM ? ANOTHER D.E. PRAT THAT WANTS A PAY RISE 11
Stop shouting.
[quote][p][bold]CHARLIE TAYLOR[/bold] wrote: LITTLE BOY TRYING TO MAKE A NAME IN JOURNALISM WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO. FROM ? ANOTHER D.E. PRAT THAT WANTS A PAY RISE 11[/p][/quote]Stop shouting. SaintJD
  • Score: 3

5:10pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Young Man you are under Contract so put this Story to Bed!
Young Man you are under Contract so put this Story to Bed! Fatty x Ford Worker
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Mon 9 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
Describe the previous worst that you saw then?
I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale.
It gave me a right Tern though.
You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J).
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]Describe the previous worst that you saw then?[/p][/quote]I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale. It gave me a right Tern though.[/p][/quote]You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J). george chivers
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Mon 9 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts.

On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes.......
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts. On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes....... I TOLD YOU SO!!! redandy10
  • Score: -4

5:41pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
Describe the previous worst that you saw then?
I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale.
It gave me a right Tern though.
You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J).
Yeah sorry,I've been a bit of a Tit haven't I,but I was only having a Lark.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]Describe the previous worst that you saw then?[/p][/quote]I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale. It gave me a right Tern though.[/p][/quote]You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J).[/p][/quote]Yeah sorry,I've been a bit of a Tit haven't I,but I was only having a Lark. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Mon 9 Jun 14

bartley41 says...

Lets get one thing straight, Football Agents make their living by Players moving from Club to Club and will use whatever means possible to engineer a move, are they really interested in the Players welfare?

No, they want their cut, if every player stayed at the same Club for years and years they would be out of a job!

Most of the unrest is caused by Agents who see non movement as a drop in their income!
Lets get one thing straight, Football Agents make their living by Players moving from Club to Club and will use whatever means possible to engineer a move, are they really interested in the Players welfare? No, they want their cut, if every player stayed at the same Club for years and years they would be out of a job! Most of the unrest is caused by Agents who see non movement as a drop in their income! bartley41
  • Score: 4

6:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 5

6:11pm Mon 9 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts.

On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes.......
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why?

oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look!
neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked.
you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong?

so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail!
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts. On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes....... I TOLD YOU SO!!![/p][/quote]oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why? oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look! neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked. you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong? so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

6:21pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Malcombe says...

Sainty saint saint

Well Mr. Perfect or should that be mr perfect? I did not realise I had to send it to you first to be edited Sir Mr English Teacher or should that be sir mr english teacher? oh goodness me I wish I wasn't so thick. If my comments upset you that much don't read them, I have an idea I'll send my comment to you and you do what you like with it but don't forget if you do post it put my name because I wouldn't want you to get all the credit and many thumbs up, incidentally am I punctuating correctly or isn't there anything I can do right and have I put the capitals correctly in this small passage I am so confused? I always thought post on here are meant to be about Southampton Football Club not about a nitpicking English lesson mine in particular or anyone else's and if that's all you prefer to do I suggest you get a LIFE!!
Sainty saint saint Well Mr. Perfect or should that be mr perfect? I did not realise I had to send it to you first to be edited Sir Mr English Teacher or should that be sir mr english teacher? oh goodness me I wish I wasn't so thick. If my comments upset you that much don't read them, I have an idea I'll send my comment to you and you do what you like with it but don't forget if you do post it put my name because I wouldn't want you to get all the credit and many thumbs up, incidentally am I punctuating correctly or isn't there anything I can do right and have I put the capitals correctly in this small passage I am so confused? I always thought post on here are meant to be about Southampton Football Club not about a nitpicking English lesson mine in particular or anyone else's and if that's all you prefer to do I suggest you get a LIFE!! Malcombe
  • Score: 1

6:36pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
Describe the previous worst that you saw then?
I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale.
It gave me a right Tern though.
You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J).
My talons have often been claws for complaint, most think I am a bit cuckoo. I have never been one to duck an issue, but what I say isn't all it is quacked up to be. I love a cheep laugh though.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]Describe the previous worst that you saw then?[/p][/quote]I would,but I might end up in font of the beak,and spending the Nightingale. It gave me a right Tern though.[/p][/quote]You need top stop swanning about and take a break in a Condorminium. Remember one swallow doesn't make a summer (B-J).[/p][/quote]My talons have often been claws for complaint, most think I am a bit cuckoo. I have never been one to duck an issue, but what I say isn't all it is quacked up to be. I love a cheep laugh though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

6:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

M.U.CS1 says...

It's going to be funny if you some how manage to keep hold of your better players because none of them seem to want to stay. It doesn't matter how much money you think you have, get it into your heads, they don't want to play for Southampton ! All the players have to do is come out and say they want to stay, but are they ? The answers simple, NO !!!
It's going to be funny if you some how manage to keep hold of your better players because none of them seem to want to stay. It doesn't matter how much money you think you have, get it into your heads, they don't want to play for Southampton ! All the players have to do is come out and say they want to stay, but are they ? The answers simple, NO !!! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -12

7:03pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 0

7:04pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
It's going to be funny if you some how manage to keep hold of your better players because none of them seem to want to stay. It doesn't matter how much money you think you have, get it into your heads, they don't want to play for Southampton ! All the players have to do is come out and say they want to stay, but are they ? The answers simple, NO !!!
You know nothing so stop posting your puerile rubbish on here.
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: It's going to be funny if you some how manage to keep hold of your better players because none of them seem to want to stay. It doesn't matter how much money you think you have, get it into your heads, they don't want to play for Southampton ! All the players have to do is come out and say they want to stay, but are they ? The answers simple, NO !!![/p][/quote]You know nothing so stop posting your puerile rubbish on here. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

7:25pm Mon 9 Jun 14

dadofmy3sons says...

redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts.

On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes.......
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
Did I miss that story?
The one that states that two players have been sold?
Adam + Luke have left and Saints haven't put out a statement except to Redandy.
I wish I could get inside info like that.
Thanks
Thanks for telling us this news, what a relief we can all stop worrying about them leaving and concentrate on somebody else leaving.
Do you know who is next too? ? ?
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts. On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes....... I TOLD YOU SO!!![/p][/quote]Did I miss that story? The one that states that two players have been sold? Adam + Luke have left and Saints haven't put out a statement except to Redandy. I wish I could get inside info like that. Thanks Thanks for telling us this news, what a relief we can all stop worrying about them leaving and concentrate on somebody else leaving. Do you know who is next too? ? ? dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

I understand that Real Madrid are after our tea lady - so that just leaves us with the groundsman and the guys who are coming in to paint the new training ground - but don't count on it.
I understand that Real Madrid are after our tea lady - so that just leaves us with the groundsman and the guys who are coming in to paint the new training ground - but don't count on it. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 2

7:38pm Mon 9 Jun 14

markodarko29 says...

In my opinion if man utd offer 30m for Shaw I think saints should take it ,as much as I think he is a good player I don't think he is going to be any where near as good as bale and not worth that sort of money ,lallana is the one we should dig our heels in for and not sale
In my opinion if man utd offer 30m for Shaw I think saints should take it ,as much as I think he is a good player I don't think he is going to be any where near as good as bale and not worth that sort of money ,lallana is the one we should dig our heels in for and not sale markodarko29
  • Score: 4

7:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

saintlysoul says...

I wish to God Shaw and Lallana would just go. They are replaceable! Is Shaw really that good? There's been a lot of hype but he's played one and a half seasons and not scored a goal. If you analyse the goals a Saints conceded he's been at fault for a lot of them often found out just jogging back having gone forward. Why is he in Brazil and not Shaw because of a decision by an inept England manager - the same manager who took Johnston but left Clyne behind! Shaw flatters to deceive and I think, and hope, his departure will make way for a left back who will at least make more assists and actually score. Let Shaw go to Manure - let him warm the bench - he'll soon realise that the grass isn't actually greener in Manchester. As for Lallana I have a feeling he's going to flop at this World Cup and we will be stuck with him.
I wish to God Shaw and Lallana would just go. They are replaceable! Is Shaw really that good? There's been a lot of hype but he's played one and a half seasons and not scored a goal. If you analyse the goals a Saints conceded he's been at fault for a lot of them often found out just jogging back having gone forward. Why is he in Brazil and not Shaw because of a decision by an inept England manager - the same manager who took Johnston but left Clyne behind! Shaw flatters to deceive and I think, and hope, his departure will make way for a left back who will at least make more assists and actually score. Let Shaw go to Manure - let him warm the bench - he'll soon realise that the grass isn't actually greener in Manchester. As for Lallana I have a feeling he's going to flop at this World Cup and we will be stuck with him. saintlysoul
  • Score: -3

8:02pm Mon 9 Jun 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Shareholder wrote:
Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED.
don't understand why more posters haven't picked up on this.
Is it because it sounds true and boring?
A young player gets drunk and makes a fool of himself without any topless girls or punching photographers.
[quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED.[/p][/quote]don't understand why more posters haven't picked up on this. Is it because it sounds true and boring? A young player gets drunk and makes a fool of himself without any topless girls or punching photographers. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 1

8:10pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ?
Nope that is not true. He told me that they didn't want to go and that MoPo was pushing the board to continue with the project, to keep the existing players by offering the right deals and to strengthen the squad to push on. That's very different to saying they would not leave which if you check back is not what I said. He also brought up AL when at that time the only media speculation was about LS.

What amazes me is that i get a bit of first hand info, I report it back yet get thumbed down, whether you believe he was telling the truth or not is another matter - but do you really not want that info?
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ?[/p][/quote]Nope that is not true. He told me that they didn't want to go and that MoPo was pushing the board to continue with the project, to keep the existing players by offering the right deals and to strengthen the squad to push on. That's very different to saying they would not leave which if you check back is not what I said. He also brought up AL when at that time the only media speculation was about LS. What amazes me is that i get a bit of first hand info, I report it back yet get thumbed down, whether you believe he was telling the truth or not is another matter - but do you really not want that info? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

8:21pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits.......... OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

8:41pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Shareholder wrote:
Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED.
don't understand why more posters haven't picked up on this.
Is it because it sounds true and boring?
A young player gets drunk and makes a fool of himself without any topless girls or punching photographers.
Well this is certainly true as many a Grand Cafe regular will tell you. Of course it's boring for people with all those conspiracy theories. I mean an18 year old bragging isn't unusual or particularly interesting is it? Personally I'm board with it all. ;)
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shareholder[/bold] wrote: Just a story lifted from the BBC website. They didn't get it right. The event was at the Grand Cafe and Shaw got severely drunk and shouted his mouth off about who was after his signature. He managed to pee off Katharina and the board members and had to apologise. Thus proving young men and alcohol are a dangerous mixture. Also proving that if the Echo was a decent paper it could have found all this out quite easily - them being local and all. This wasn't difficult to find out. A lot of people witnessed this and they quite naturally talk. QED.[/p][/quote]don't understand why more posters haven't picked up on this. Is it because it sounds true and boring? A young player gets drunk and makes a fool of himself without any topless girls or punching photographers.[/p][/quote]Well this is certainly true as many a Grand Cafe regular will tell you. Of course it's boring for people with all those conspiracy theories. I mean an18 year old bragging isn't unusual or particularly interesting is it? Personally I'm board with it all. ;) Shareholder
  • Score: 1

8:56pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ?
Nope that is not true. He told me that they didn't want to go and that MoPo was pushing the board to continue with the project, to keep the existing players by offering the right deals and to strengthen the squad to push on. That's very different to saying they would not leave which if you check back is not what I said. He also brought up AL when at that time the only media speculation was about LS.

What amazes me is that i get a bit of first hand info, I report it back yet get thumbed down, whether you believe he was telling the truth or not is another matter - but do you really not want that info?
Might be a sad case of 'shooting the messenger' there Seed. Likely Jesus spoke the truth but there will always be doubting Thomases.

On the other hand what he told you may in fact have been a parable ie a tale not to be taken literally, but one which, in a roundabout way, demonstrates an important principle to the simple followers of The Vision.

If this turns out to be the case, when I write the history of St Marys, I will call this chapter "The Exodus" and include in it "The parable of the Spuds Manager."

If you see him again ask if they parted the Itchen en route to Tottenham. If he says they did it's deffo a parable mate.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]This is the same Assistant Manger who told you a week before MoPo left for Spurs , he was not leaving ?[/p][/quote]Nope that is not true. He told me that they didn't want to go and that MoPo was pushing the board to continue with the project, to keep the existing players by offering the right deals and to strengthen the squad to push on. That's very different to saying they would not leave which if you check back is not what I said. He also brought up AL when at that time the only media speculation was about LS. What amazes me is that i get a bit of first hand info, I report it back yet get thumbed down, whether you believe he was telling the truth or not is another matter - but do you really not want that info?[/p][/quote]Might be a sad case of 'shooting the messenger' there Seed. Likely Jesus spoke the truth but there will always be doubting Thomases. On the other hand what he told you may in fact have been a parable ie a tale not to be taken literally, but one which, in a roundabout way, demonstrates an important principle to the simple followers of The Vision. If this turns out to be the case, when I write the history of St Marys, I will call this chapter "The Exodus" and include in it "The parable of the Spuds Manager." If you see him again ask if they parted the Itchen en route to Tottenham. If he says they did it's deffo a parable mate. Confucious
  • Score: 3

8:56pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there.

I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer.

If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP.

Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour.

Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left.
Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go.
Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there. I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer. If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP. Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour. Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left. Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go. Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving. Costa Baz
  • Score: 7

9:22pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there.

I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer.

If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP.

Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour.

Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left.
Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go.
Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.
We may also be missing something here. When St Markus passed away we were told that provisions had been made for the future wellbeing of the club. We have never to my knowledge been given any details of any such provisions. He could for instance have stated that the club should not be sold until it has established it's position in the EPL. Or he may have said that the club should not be sold for a specified number of years. So unless Katharina comes out and gives us her vision of the future we will never know. The fact is that RK has made a statement that there are no plans to sell. I think most of the more level headed fans will take him at his word.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there. I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer. If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP. Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour. Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left. Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go. Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.[/p][/quote]We may also be missing something here. When St Markus passed away we were told that provisions had been made for the future wellbeing of the club. We have never to my knowledge been given any details of any such provisions. He could for instance have stated that the club should not be sold until it has established it's position in the EPL. Or he may have said that the club should not be sold for a specified number of years. So unless Katharina comes out and gives us her vision of the future we will never know. The fact is that RK has made a statement that there are no plans to sell. I think most of the more level headed fans will take him at his word. Clever Dick
  • Score: 8

9:24pm Mon 9 Jun 14

search for the truth says...

Andover Saint wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.
It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ?
[quote][p][bold]Andover Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.[/p][/quote]It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ? search for the truth
  • Score: -3

9:35pm Mon 9 Jun 14

jls217 says...

search for the truth wrote:
Andover Saint wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.
It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ?
This might be a good time to remind you all of those games will be played in the premiership. Life is good.
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andover Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.[/p][/quote]It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ?[/p][/quote]This might be a good time to remind you all of those games will be played in the premiership. Life is good. jls217
  • Score: 1

9:42pm Mon 9 Jun 14

LFCalways says...

bstokesaint wrote:
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?
[quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.[/p][/quote]Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money? LFCalways
  • Score: -3

9:51pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there.

I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer.

If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP.

Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour.

Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left.
Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go.
Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.
Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there. I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer. If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP. Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour. Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left. Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go. Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.[/p][/quote]Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

9:59pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........
If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum.

Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........[/p][/quote]If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum. Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 1

10:03pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........
If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum.

Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.
You're reading too much into it. You have to remember Osprey has his own sense of humour, he's mental, but he's our mental so he's fine.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........[/p][/quote]If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum. Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.[/p][/quote]You're reading too much into it. You have to remember Osprey has his own sense of humour, he's mental, but he's our mental so he's fine. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

10:13pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Benali76 says...

Whoa, what's just happened on the betting markets? I know I am.a bit obsessed but Betfair tells me far more than any gossip in the rags. RK has just shot out from 1.5 to 2.25 whilst all the rest have come right down. Non more so than Ranieri whose down to about 5. Someone knows something.
Whoa, what's just happened on the betting markets? I know I am.a bit obsessed but Betfair tells me far more than any gossip in the rags. RK has just shot out from 1.5 to 2.25 whilst all the rest have come right down. Non more so than Ranieri whose down to about 5. Someone knows something. Benali76
  • Score: 0

10:17pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........
If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum.

Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.
You're reading too much into it. You have to remember Osprey has his own sense of humour, he's mental, but he's our mental so he's fine.
I resemble that remark............
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........[/p][/quote]If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum. Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.[/p][/quote]You're reading too much into it. You have to remember Osprey has his own sense of humour, he's mental, but he's our mental so he's fine.[/p][/quote]I resemble that remark............ OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:19pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Saint Jinx wrote:
St. Teach wrote:
How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin.

Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES!
Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream.
If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.
What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.
Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.
I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........
If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum.

Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.
Again I say I don't specify, I generalise, you will only be upset if you feel a pang of guilt, otherwise you have nothing to worry about.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Jinx[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St. Teach[/bold] wrote: How does this merit the title "News"? It should be placed in an Oldspaper. Or, better yet, a dustbin. Ben Smith is a truly disappointing BBC journalist. We are PAYING HIS WAGES![/p][/quote]Perhaps the Liebherr family got together and, after much arguing, decided that they cannot continue with their Dad's "foolish" dream. If that is the case, they should have sold it to Nicola - in instalments.[/p][/quote]What a vivid imagination you lot have got. Make it up say it enough and someone will believe it.[/p][/quote]Don't be cheeky - that is a bit personal. It is all tongue in cheek.[/p][/quote]I was generalising not picking out any individual, but if the cap fits..........[/p][/quote]If the cap fits what.... That is getting very personal - I normally appreciate your posts and I would never intentionally insult someone who is taking the trouble to contribute to the forum. Once again I would say that it is rude the way you responded.[/p][/quote]Again I say I don't specify, I generalise, you will only be upset if you feel a pang of guilt, otherwise you have nothing to worry about. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:21pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

LFCalways wrote:
bstokesaint wrote:
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?
Depends on the job, if it was something to do with fish I would probably forego the money.
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.[/p][/quote]Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?[/p][/quote]Depends on the job, if it was something to do with fish I would probably forego the money. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:22pm Mon 9 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

search for the truth wrote:
Andover Saint wrote:
search for the truth wrote:
Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.
finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.
It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ?
They?
[quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andover Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]search for the truth[/bold] wrote: Saints should of worked harder to keep hold of MoPo, then you wouldn't have the problems you've got now. Any sensible management would of realised that when a successful manager leaves a club, uncertainty and worry unsettles the team and that can destroy all that has been built up over the years. Southampton didn't go about this properly and now the team is looking shaky , I think they are going to struggle next season and will end up about 12th in the Premiership.[/p][/quote]finishing twelth would not represent a struggle, 17th would.[/p][/quote]It could well happen, in fact they could be relegated ?[/p][/quote]They? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:27pm Mon 9 Jun 14

jls217 says...

LFCalways wrote:
bstokesaint wrote:
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?
That rather depends on whether the company was owned by an arschlok like you or not.
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.[/p][/quote]Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?[/p][/quote]That rather depends on whether the company was owned by an arschlok like you or not. jls217
  • Score: 2

10:28pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

LFCalways wrote:
bstokesaint wrote:
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?
That would obviously depend upon a number of things, the most obvious being that if you have signed a legally binding contract and your employer wishes to hold you to it, then you are stuck with it. Pretty simple really.
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.[/p][/quote]Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?[/p][/quote]That would obviously depend upon a number of things, the most obvious being that if you have signed a legally binding contract and your employer wishes to hold you to it, then you are stuck with it. Pretty simple really. Clever Dick
  • Score: 3

10:41pm Mon 9 Jun 14

angus mc coatup says...

LFCalways wrote:
bstokesaint wrote:
This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.
Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?
I could be severely tempted to come out of retirement, if it was driving a bus with dodgy brakes around Gosport.
[quote][p][bold]LFCalways[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bstokesaint[/bold] wrote: This just makes me laugh. Lallana and Lovren to Liverpool, Shaw to Man U, Chambers, Schneiderlin and Clyne to Arsenal and J-Rod to Spurs. You're talking about over half the team going to the top 6 clubs. If the players thought this through a little more, they might be able to work out what can be achieved by sticking together, especially if we get the right man at the helm. It seems to me, media sensationalising aside, that the players who bought into the belief that this club could raise its glass ceiling have lost faith in their own ability in exchange for a fast-track to a bigger pay cheque. It's a shame that option's not open to the fans that have supported them and paid for their journey so far and believed we could for once go that step further.[/p][/quote]Here is a question for you would you move to another company that interested you and pays better money?[/p][/quote]I could be severely tempted to come out of retirement, if it was driving a bus with dodgy brakes around Gosport. angus mc coatup
  • Score: 2

2:03am Tue 10 Jun 14

GHamilton says...

saint phil wrote:
IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is
Best post on here by some distance......absolu
tely nailed it!!!
[quote][p][bold]saint phil[/bold] wrote: IF your not interested in playing for SAINTS then sod off, and we will get someone who is[/p][/quote]Best post on here by some distance......absolu tely nailed it!!! GHamilton
  • Score: 0

5:39am Tue 10 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there.

I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer.

If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP.

Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour.

Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left.
Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go.
Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.
Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not.
This is why I have tried not to get involved in "board bashing".
Don't know what others think we should be spending, to show ambition, but anything in the region of £35m, for a club of our size, would do it for me.

Rumour on other boards, is that Ranieri is due at SMS today (Tuesday), with some saying the Ronko pursuit may have stalled. Would be surprised at that, after reading tweeted comments from his agent.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there. I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer. If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP. Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour. Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left. Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go. Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.[/p][/quote]Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not.[/p][/quote]This is why I have tried not to get involved in "board bashing". Don't know what others think we should be spending, to show ambition, but anything in the region of £35m, for a club of our size, would do it for me. Rumour on other boards, is that Ranieri is due at SMS today (Tuesday), with some saying the Ronko pursuit may have stalled. Would be surprised at that, after reading tweeted comments from his agent. Costa Baz
  • Score: 0

6:09am Tue 10 Jun 14

milton road says...

There is no actual quote from Shaw himself or the club that he wants to leave. Th same with :Lallana. There is no comment they wish to stay either. I think everyone is waiting to see who is made manager and talk to them first.
Alot of the transfer rumor has occurred because of the fact we do not have a manager. Man Utd are said to have turned their interest to a left back from Barcelona. Whilst Liverpool have signed one midfield player and whilst both still stay in the race to sign the players, they have been told add on deals are not part of any package.
There is a nice interview on BBC about Lallana talking of his world cup chances.
I see someone like Koeman's or Ranieri having more chance of steadying the ship and settling things down.
There is no actual quote from Shaw himself or the club that he wants to leave. Th same with :Lallana. There is no comment they wish to stay either. I think everyone is waiting to see who is made manager and talk to them first. Alot of the transfer rumor has occurred because of the fact we do not have a manager. Man Utd are said to have turned their interest to a left back from Barcelona. Whilst Liverpool have signed one midfield player and whilst both still stay in the race to sign the players, they have been told add on deals are not part of any package. There is a nice interview on BBC about Lallana talking of his world cup chances. I see someone like Koeman's or Ranieri having more chance of steadying the ship and settling things down. milton road
  • Score: 1

7:12am Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there.

I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer.

If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP.

Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour.

Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left.
Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go.
Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.
Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not.
This is why I have tried not to get involved in "board bashing".
Don't know what others think we should be spending, to show ambition, but anything in the region of £35m, for a club of our size, would do it for me.

Rumour on other boards, is that Ranieri is due at SMS today (Tuesday), with some saying the Ronko pursuit may have stalled. Would be surprised at that, after reading tweeted comments from his agent.
I'd be delighted with £35m and if MoPo wasn't happy with that then he's a knob. However we are yet to find out if any was offered. Don't forget any sensible person considering the position is going to speak to MoPo before accepting just to get his view.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]So, MP was offered a massive increase to stay at the club. No lack of ambition by the board, there. I don't see what difference selling the club, in two years time, would make to an ambitious manager, with a good squad and, depending on what rumour you believe, a transfer kitty between £35 and £50m - minimum, to spend on improving the squad in the summer. If MP was concerned about being stuck at the club, he could have just increased his ( then) current contract by 1 year, allowing him to move on when KL, allegedly, plans to sell up. Win, win, for MP. Also, if the same approach had been taken with Lallana, I'm surprised he hasn't leaked the club being sold, to Adam Blackmore, who seems to be tweeting every other Lallana rumour. Just speculating, but maybe the players aren't agitating for a move, because MP has left. Maybe he left because he knew Lallana, Lambert and Shaw had been tapped up, and told him that they wanted to go. Puts a different slant on things, especially with the story about Shaw making comments about going to Manure, before MP had said he was leaving, and Lallana's behaviour/comments at the awards dinner, against before MP had (officially) said he was leaving.[/p][/quote]Yep. The salient bit is about the transfer kitty. What I have read into what I was told is that excellent personal terms were offered but not the war chest to move on. If you're young and ambitious and the personal terms aren't shoddy elsewhere, then you will chase success. I think they knew that players were being tapped up and I think they thought that if we matched the salaries offered we could keep them. The whole gist was if the club is up for pushing into the top 6 or above we're up for staying, otherwise we're not.[/p][/quote]This is why I have tried not to get involved in "board bashing". Don't know what others think we should be spending, to show ambition, but anything in the region of £35m, for a club of our size, would do it for me. Rumour on other boards, is that Ranieri is due at SMS today (Tuesday), with some saying the Ronko pursuit may have stalled. Would be surprised at that, after reading tweeted comments from his agent.[/p][/quote]I'd be delighted with £35m and if MoPo wasn't happy with that then he's a knob. However we are yet to find out if any was offered. Don't forget any sensible person considering the position is going to speak to MoPo before accepting just to get his view. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

8:42am Tue 10 Jun 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
On a Brazilian blackbird.
After a night out with a cockatoo.
Surely Brazilian girls don't have bushes, burning or otherwise? That's why they're called "Brazilian" girls.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]On a Brazilian blackbird.[/p][/quote]After a night out with a cockatoo.[/p][/quote]Surely Brazilian girls don't have bushes, burning or otherwise? That's why they're called "Brazilian" girls. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 0

9:19am Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
george chivers wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave.

I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.
If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.
Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision.

And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us.

It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision?

Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion.

But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.
If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.
It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.
Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.
'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.
Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)
On a Brazilian blackbird.
After a night out with a cockatoo.
Surely Brazilian girls don't have bushes, burning or otherwise? That's why they're called "Brazilian" girls.
How do you think they get the "Brazilian" in the first place? ;0)
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: It still comes back to the fact that all the players said they would stay if MoPo stayed. MoPo was prepared to stay provided the project was continued. As I reported last week Jesus told me that Ralph offered them a massive increase in salaries to keep the club ticking over for two years when it would be sold. They refused as they want to achieve something. He also told me that Ralph took the same approach with Adam which has led to Adam, Luke, Victor and Morgan asking to leave. I cannot prove whether this is all true or not but I was told this first hand by the outgoing assistant manager. As some one said he may put a slant on it as he knows I'm a diehard Saint. However, we mustn't rule out the possibility that all of this (including Cortese leaving) is as a direct result of the club refusing to push on when it had it's greatest opportunity in 30 years.[/p][/quote]If what you infer is true, we will soon be a fairly weatlhy Club in the Championship, nuff said.[/p][/quote]Yes, it sounds as if MoPo was a Saint through and through and couldn't bear the thought of seeing his beloved fans disappointed as "the vision" was abandoned and slow death encroached. It seems, very reluctantly, he and his team left for Spurs - no doubt so upset at having to leave St Marys that they likely went for a lot less cash than Saints were offering. Same goes for Nicola whose brilliant vision rested entirely upon Nicola keeping Nicola in sole charge of Nicola's vision. And who could blame Rickie, Luke and Adam for not wanting to hang around the club? Even though Saints made their careers - and they'd have stayed selflessly to serve the club and fans they so adore if Nicola and MoPo had not been forced out - you can't blame them for not wanting to witness the tragedy that now befalls us. It's all the fault of that awful Katherina (and her dastardly henchman Krueger). Why oh why couldn't this blinkered woman see what Nicola saw and pay him millions of pounds to spend many more millions of pounds on his multi-million pound vision? Our only hope is that Katherina sees a burning bush and "The Vision" manifests itself and brings a sudden and dramatic conversion. But I fear that's a hope too far. No - Nicola, MoPo, Rickie, Luke and Adam all kept the faith alight. But now The Vision has dimmed and soon the Dark Prince Krueger will extinguish it entirely and herald in a new dark and sinister age at St Marys.[/p][/quote]If Katherina goes to Brazil for the WC it's unlikely she will see a burning bush over there, unless of course she is the victim of spontaneous combustion.[/p][/quote]It is difficult t get so much disrespect and blasphemy in one post, well done.[/p][/quote]Thank you Osprey that is the nicest thing you have said to me for a long time. You are indeed a man of many talons. Should I need to confess sometime I will seek you out.[/p][/quote]'Man of many talons'/'Osprey', that's a brilliant bird gag, especially if it was accidental. Excellent. Although I'm still trying to get rid of that image of Brazilian girls with burning bushes - sounds like a public information film warning fans about the dangers of STDs in South America. Scary.[/p][/quote]Worst case of "Thrush" ever seen? ;0)[/p][/quote]On a Brazilian blackbird.[/p][/quote]After a night out with a cockatoo.[/p][/quote]Surely Brazilian girls don't have bushes, burning or otherwise? That's why they're called "Brazilian" girls.[/p][/quote]How do you think they get the "Brazilian" in the first place? ;0) Positively4thStreet
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10:54am Tue 10 Jun 14

Sainty saint saint says...

Malcombe wrote:
Sainty saint saint

Well Mr. Perfect or should that be mr perfect? I did not realise I had to send it to you first to be edited Sir Mr English Teacher or should that be sir mr english teacher? oh goodness me I wish I wasn't so thick. If my comments upset you that much don't read them, I have an idea I'll send my comment to you and you do what you like with it but don't forget if you do post it put my name because I wouldn't want you to get all the credit and many thumbs up, incidentally am I punctuating correctly or isn't there anything I can do right and have I put the capitals correctly in this small passage I am so confused? I always thought post on here are meant to be about Southampton Football Club not about a nitpicking English lesson mine in particular or anyone else's and if that's all you prefer to do I suggest you get a LIFE!!
Wow. Tad defensive there Malcombe. I only asked a question. It had just been niggling at me for a while...
[quote][p][bold]Malcombe[/bold] wrote: Sainty saint saint Well Mr. Perfect or should that be mr perfect? I did not realise I had to send it to you first to be edited Sir Mr English Teacher or should that be sir mr english teacher? oh goodness me I wish I wasn't so thick. If my comments upset you that much don't read them, I have an idea I'll send my comment to you and you do what you like with it but don't forget if you do post it put my name because I wouldn't want you to get all the credit and many thumbs up, incidentally am I punctuating correctly or isn't there anything I can do right and have I put the capitals correctly in this small passage I am so confused? I always thought post on here are meant to be about Southampton Football Club not about a nitpicking English lesson mine in particular or anyone else's and if that's all you prefer to do I suggest you get a LIFE!![/p][/quote]Wow. Tad defensive there Malcombe. I only asked a question. It had just been niggling at me for a while... Sainty saint saint
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1:26pm Tue 10 Jun 14

el caballo santos101 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts.

On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes.......
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why?

oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look!
neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked.
you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong?

so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail!
come on redandy you usually jump all over my posts to tell me I`m wrong and how you have always been correct.
why haven't you responded to this one? is it because you've been made to look a fool (again)? is it because even though you were obviously delighted to say `I told you so` you haven't told us anything? is it because to say `I told you so` would mean that both players have been sold? or is it just because you've been found out as my little stalker again who will just post anything, correct or not or with facts or not in response to one of my posts?
come on tell us what you `told us so` so that we can understand your post.

as I said to you before, you obviously want the club to sell the players, whether its in our best interests or not, just so that you can come straight on here (of course in response to one of my posts) and shout out `I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!`. well if they are sold so be it, as long as it what our club wants not because the players want to go. if however both luke and Lalla turn out for saints again next season I will be delighted, I wont however say `I told you so` because I have never said that they wont go, all I have ever said is that the club shouldn't be held to ransom by the players.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts. On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes....... I TOLD YOU SO!!![/p][/quote]oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why? oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look! neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked. you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong? so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail![/p][/quote]come on redandy you usually jump all over my posts to tell me I`m wrong and how you have always been correct. why haven't you responded to this one? is it because you've been made to look a fool (again)? is it because even though you were obviously delighted to say `I told you so` you haven't told us anything? is it because to say `I told you so` would mean that both players have been sold? or is it just because you've been found out as my little stalker again who will just post anything, correct or not or with facts or not in response to one of my posts? come on tell us what you `told us so` so that we can understand your post. as I said to you before, you obviously want the club to sell the players, whether its in our best interests or not, just so that you can come straight on here (of course in response to one of my posts) and shout out `I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!`. well if they are sold so be it, as long as it what our club wants not because the players want to go. if however both luke and Lalla turn out for saints again next season I will be delighted, I wont however say `I told you so` because I have never said that they wont go, all I have ever said is that the club shouldn't be held to ransom by the players. el caballo santos101
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3:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
redandy10 wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts.

On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes.......
I TOLD YOU SO!!!
oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why?

oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look!
neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked.
you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong?

so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail!
come on redandy you usually jump all over my posts to tell me I`m wrong and how you have always been correct.
why haven't you responded to this one? is it because you've been made to look a fool (again)? is it because even though you were obviously delighted to say `I told you so` you haven't told us anything? is it because to say `I told you so` would mean that both players have been sold? or is it just because you've been found out as my little stalker again who will just post anything, correct or not or with facts or not in response to one of my posts?
come on tell us what you `told us so` so that we can understand your post.

as I said to you before, you obviously want the club to sell the players, whether its in our best interests or not, just so that you can come straight on here (of course in response to one of my posts) and shout out `I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!`. well if they are sold so be it, as long as it what our club wants not because the players want to go. if however both luke and Lalla turn out for saints again next season I will be delighted, I wont however say `I told you so` because I have never said that they wont go, all I have ever said is that the club shouldn't be held to ransom by the players.
I've already stated what happened (see my original post). A kid got drunk and shouted his mouth off which he apologised for. It's a non story but some people, the Echo and Ben Smith and a load of posters here would rather make something up and make a mountain out of a mole-hill. Sad really.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The reason you won't accept what the article says is that it will yet again show you to be WRONG about something. For a couple of months now you have been getting up on your high horse and spouting guff about Luke & Adam not going anywhere, only to be proved wrong on both counts. On the bright side there is one positive to come out of this, you were CORRECT about one thing. You said that I would say "I told you so", well here goes....... I TOLD YOU SO!!![/p][/quote]oh look my little stalkers back, where you been? we`ve had some quite positive stories recently and you've gone missing, I wonder why? oh I take it that one story by a NC loving journalist with no proof or facts attached, pretty much the same as the story he `broke` about lalla asking to leave, yes the same journalist did both and did the recent love in, sorry interview, with NC! must mean that both players have been sold, I must have missed that then so your right then, they have both been sold before the world cup and you told us so! how stupid do we look now! oh no wait a second, I have just checked and they are both STILL saints players, that's weird, I think the OS must be wrong as you said they have both gone because I am wrong! I must ring the saints board and tell them to sort it out for you! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, how stupid do you look! neither players have gone anywhere and neither will before the world cup, no not because of what les reed said but because of what roy, the England manager, has said. you really should check your facts before you try to make yourself look clever. oh and again, I have never said that the club will not sell the players, go back and check if you want (though I do accept that checking facts isn't your strong point!). I have said though that the club will only sell the players if that's what the clubs want (basically the statements from the club). they wont sell them just because they player wants to leave, which is what you have been saying. your claim that a player will go if he wants out has been proven wrong on both counts. according to the great ben smith both players have told the club they want to go, yet neither have been sold, I know strange isn't it. if the luke story today is correct (have you actually read the original story?) then luke told the club he wants to leave on 11th may or just under a month ago and he still hasn't gone. how has that worked out? you told us they would go if they asked. you said once that your views were right because over 20 people gave it a thumbs up. going by that wonderful claim how can I be wrong? so to conclude, my little stalker, you claim to be proved right, and therefore myself wrong, whilst the facts prove the exact opposite, whoooooops epic fail![/p][/quote]come on redandy you usually jump all over my posts to tell me I`m wrong and how you have always been correct. why haven't you responded to this one? is it because you've been made to look a fool (again)? is it because even though you were obviously delighted to say `I told you so` you haven't told us anything? is it because to say `I told you so` would mean that both players have been sold? or is it just because you've been found out as my little stalker again who will just post anything, correct or not or with facts or not in response to one of my posts? come on tell us what you `told us so` so that we can understand your post. as I said to you before, you obviously want the club to sell the players, whether its in our best interests or not, just so that you can come straight on here (of course in response to one of my posts) and shout out `I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!`. well if they are sold so be it, as long as it what our club wants not because the players want to go. if however both luke and Lalla turn out for saints again next season I will be delighted, I wont however say `I told you so` because I have never said that they wont go, all I have ever said is that the club shouldn't be held to ransom by the players.[/p][/quote]I've already stated what happened (see my original post). A kid got drunk and shouted his mouth off which he apologised for. It's a non story but some people, the Echo and Ben Smith and a load of posters here would rather make something up and make a mountain out of a mole-hill. Sad really. Shareholder
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4:26pm Tue 10 Jun 14

bobby the crane says...

To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE
To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE bobby the crane
  • Score: -3

5:44pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Shareholder says...

bobby the crane wrote:
To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE
Um what? You don't sell managers for a start - in this case ours resigned. And we haven't sold all our stars - we sold one ageing one for a good price. In fact nothing you say is true. I think it's you that needs to wake up!
[quote][p][bold]bobby the crane[/bold] wrote: To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE[/p][/quote]Um what? You don't sell managers for a start - in this case ours resigned. And we haven't sold all our stars - we sold one ageing one for a good price. In fact nothing you say is true. I think it's you that needs to wake up! Shareholder
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6:38pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

bobby the crane wrote:
To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE
Slow your brain down and think about what you are saying. Of course she's going to make money for her businesses, she is not here to lose money.

One player has been sold. Some more may go - that depends on the new manager. Some will be bought again that depends on the new manager.

Nothing else/nobody else has been sold.

The manager left because he wanted to - how do you sell a manager, please explain that to us.

There will be no houses built on the stadium site. Take a walk around the area, it's a commercial/business site.

Hope this allows you to get some sleep tonight.
[quote][p][bold]bobby the crane[/bold] wrote: To all of you SFC Supporters you are all missing the great big ''POINT HERE'', as a previous posting sometime ago it was noted in the heading ASSET STRIPPING, have you all forgot or you don't want to believe??, Miss Katherina Liebherr is wrong doing her Father Marcuse's wishes, he was an honorable Man with the good intentions for the Club, Wake up all of you please. just take a look at what has happened recently with the selling of the manager & most of the star players, before to long the site will be a Housing Estate, more money in the Liebherr Families coffers, you can all make these long statements about what is going wrong, mark My words, I do not make this post off the cuff, as I am a proud SFC supporter, Katherina has just brought in what's his name??? to manage the Club what on Earth can he do with what is going on 1 he is way out of his depth 2 he was chosen by Miss Liebherr, he must lie in his bed at night thinking why am I HERE[/p][/quote]Slow your brain down and think about what you are saying. Of course she's going to make money for her businesses, she is not here to lose money. One player has been sold. Some more may go - that depends on the new manager. Some will be bought again that depends on the new manager. Nothing else/nobody else has been sold. The manager left because he wanted to - how do you sell a manager, please explain that to us. There will be no houses built on the stadium site. Take a walk around the area, it's a commercial/business site. Hope this allows you to get some sleep tonight. jls217
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8:33pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Hope this helps with the asset stripping BS. Interview with Les Reed.

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?feature=pl
ayer_detailpage&v=JD
qYcMcX9Vw
Hope this helps with the asset stripping BS. Interview with Les Reed. https://www.youtube. com/watch?feature=pl ayer_detailpage&v=JD qYcMcX9Vw jls217
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12:58pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Les Miserables says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
As I posted on another thread,

Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind!
I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith!
The first inaccuracy in Ben Smiths "scoop" is that the "event" after the last game was not held in a hotel ! Typical Ben Smith relying on half truths, regurgitating previous rumours or perhaps just inventing a new one.
If he does have a mole then either that mole is not as close to the club and its workings as he/she claims OR he/she is just winding everyone up.
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: As I posted on another thread, Yet again the source for this rumour is the NC loving Ben Smith! He has said that Luke told the club at an event at a hotel after the 1-1 draw with manure. Why has it taken him so long to run with this story? Don't forget that this is the same Ben Smith who recently informed us that lalla told the club he wants to go to diverpool, why didn't he go with the Luke story first? Or has he got a mole inside the club who thought they would wait until just before the world cup to leak an overheard conversation from the end of the season. Luke according to this would have been telling the club on the Sunday before the world cup squad was announced, you would think he might have had other things on his mind! I treat this rumour the same as I treat any rumour printed by Ben Smith![/p][/quote]The first inaccuracy in Ben Smiths "scoop" is that the "event" after the last game was not held in a hotel ! Typical Ben Smith relying on half truths, regurgitating previous rumours or perhaps just inventing a new one. If he does have a mole then either that mole is not as close to the club and its workings as he/she claims OR he/she is just winding everyone up. Les Miserables
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