Southampton full-back Shaw on verge of becoming most expensive teenager in history

Daily Echo: Manchester United in £34 million bid for Luke Shaw Manchester United in £34 million bid for Luke Shaw

SAINTS star Luke Shaw could become the most expensive teenager in history after reports that Manchester United has offered £34m for the defender, it is reported today.

The 18-year-old, who will make his World Cup debut for England against Costa Rica this afternoon, had already attracted a £27m bid from the club before he jetted off to Brazil with the national squad.

But now it is understood that United have raised their bid, which if agreed, will exceed the £32.5m the club paid Everton for Wayne Rooney ten years ago.

Saints have not commented on reports of the record-breaking sum, which would make him the most expensive teenager in world football.

On Sunday a national newspaper revealed how a Playboy model claimed that the wonderkid had been “sexting” her and asked for a threesome with her twin sister.

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8:01am Tue 24 Jun 14

ulrichvangobbel says...

Take the money and get a new Francis benali.
Take the money and get a new Francis benali. ulrichvangobbel
  • Score: 41

8:01am Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

If this is true then its christmas come early for RC.... Full backs are ten a penny these days at £10M so good luck Shaw with your plastic-fans club and FFS don't get injured when England loose against Costa Rica....
If this is true then its christmas come early for RC.... Full backs are ten a penny these days at £10M so good luck Shaw with your plastic-fans club and FFS don't get injured when England loose against Costa Rica.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 33

8:04am Tue 24 Jun 14

Sussex Jay says...

Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!!
Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!! Sussex Jay
  • Score: 40

8:14am Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintChris46 says...

Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions.
I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that.
There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?
Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions. I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that. There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true? SaintChris46
  • Score: 44

8:21am Tue 24 Jun 14

mrs pepperpot says...

Pathetic... Football is ridiculous.
Pathetic... Football is ridiculous. mrs pepperpot
  • Score: -27

8:23am Tue 24 Jun 14

Blackknight says...

£32.5 million is nowhere near enough.

'The Mail's reporting Saints want £40 million for Shaw. If Manure can waste
£27.5 million on Marouane Fellaini, and spend £37.1 million on Mata then they have money to burn.
£32.5 million is nowhere near enough. 'The Mail's reporting Saints want £40 million for Shaw. If Manure can waste £27.5 million on Marouane Fellaini, and spend £37.1 million on Mata then they have money to burn. Blackknight
  • Score: 37

8:34am Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

SaintChris46 wrote:
Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions.
I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that.
There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?
yes we do because the club has not denied any of it...
[quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions. I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that. There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?[/p][/quote]yes we do because the club has not denied any of it... steekeemcglue
  • Score: -24

8:34am Tue 24 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

This is just the start of the Man U trying to wind their neck back in gracefully. It’s the same as with Lallana. The only official statement from any of the parties involved has been an emphatic “no sale” policy from Saints. All of a sudden Shaw is overpriced and so is Lallana.

Not sure what this has to do with “sexting” though!
This is just the start of the Man U trying to wind their neck back in gracefully. It’s the same as with Lallana. The only official statement from any of the parties involved has been an emphatic “no sale” policy from Saints. All of a sudden Shaw is overpriced and so is Lallana. Not sure what this has to do with “sexting” though! Jesus_02
  • Score: 16

8:34am Tue 24 Jun 14

alanrr says...

take the money.....our academy will have and probably has another left-back ready
take the money.....our academy will have and probably has another left-back ready alanrr
  • Score: 18

8:37am Tue 24 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Why was this article written by a "Crime Reporter"? Does the Echo know something it is telling us?
Why was this article written by a "Crime Reporter"? Does the Echo know something it is telling us? Rising_Son
  • Score: 12

8:41am Tue 24 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
SaintChris46 wrote:
Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions.
I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that.
There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?
yes we do because the club has not denied any of it...
That's hardly a good reason for believing that it is true though. I mean I've never denied being blue haired and blond eyed.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions. I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that. There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?[/p][/quote]yes we do because the club has not denied any of it...[/p][/quote]That's hardly a good reason for believing that it is true though. I mean I've never denied being blue haired and blond eyed. Rising_Son
  • Score: 6

8:55am Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

£34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that!

Lol

Ask em for £45m and see what they say.
£34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that! Lol Ask em for £45m and see what they say. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 27

8:55am Tue 24 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

At that price I'd say Thanks Luke off you go and warm a bench in Manchester. Ryan Bertrand of Chelsea is a perfect replacement.
At that price I'd say Thanks Luke off you go and warm a bench in Manchester. Ryan Bertrand of Chelsea is a perfect replacement. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 11

9:09am Tue 24 Jun 14

lowemustgo says...

He will be worth far more than this and Man Ure know that. Luke is not the finished article yet and so not available at any price. Don't be taken in by plastic Mancs blandishing their (borrowed) money.
He will be worth far more than this and Man Ure know that. Luke is not the finished article yet and so not available at any price. Don't be taken in by plastic Mancs blandishing their (borrowed) money. lowemustgo
  • Score: 9

9:12am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

9:15am Tue 24 Jun 14

gazw1976 says...

we have matt targett as next lb on the conveyor belt so if manure want shaw pay up in full or shut up . and crime reporter doing this story lol she just nicked it from the mirror ( dont even believe the date in that rag ) .
we have matt targett as next lb on the conveyor belt so if manure want shaw pay up in full or shut up . and crime reporter doing this story lol she just nicked it from the mirror ( dont even believe the date in that rag ) . gazw1976
  • Score: 8

9:24am Tue 24 Jun 14

Abbey Saint says...

Liverpool, United and the rest are all deperate because their own 'acadamies' are nowhere as effective as ours. Right now Saints are in the box seat. Our choice whether we sell or not. Our choice on the money and terms. If they don't like it, they can do one. We win either way.
Liverpool, United and the rest are all deperate because their own 'acadamies' are nowhere as effective as ours. Right now Saints are in the box seat. Our choice whether we sell or not. Our choice on the money and terms. If they don't like it, they can do one. We win either way. Abbey Saint
  • Score: 17

9:29am Tue 24 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

SaintChris46 wrote:
Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions. I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that. There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?
Precisely. I doubt if even 10% of this story is true but we should tell United to just do one, regardless. However much money we turn down it will be worth it to show the world we're no longer a selling club. In fact, the more they bid the more powerful the message, so let's see how high they'll go.
[quote][p][bold]SaintChris46[/bold] wrote: Reports elsewhere are saying that RK has slapped a £40m price tag on his head. If true, this to me is a statement of intent to all the predators out there. Whilst taking the money would enable him to spend big, we have all been crying out to stop such a move (Lallana and Lovren too), as we are so close to possibly challenging for Europe with a couple of additions. I have stated in previous threads that we should let them go if they are adamant they don't want to play for us. However, it would seem that RK has bought into the "Southampton Way" and sees LS as a key part in that. There again, it is all press speculation and do we actually know ANY of this is true?[/p][/quote]Precisely. I doubt if even 10% of this story is true but we should tell United to just do one, regardless. However much money we turn down it will be worth it to show the world we're no longer a selling club. In fact, the more they bid the more powerful the message, so let's see how high they'll go. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 9

9:37am Tue 24 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
£34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that!

Lol

Ask em for £45m and see what they say.
English players can fetch a premium nowadays. We want to keep an English core to the team. Sell him for £35/40m - to a foreign club if possible. Bring in Ryan Bertrand for £10m and we have Targett to cover LB (and Clyne if necessary) Or tell him to get on with his job and he can go when he's worth £50m!
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: £34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that! Lol Ask em for £45m and see what they say.[/p][/quote]English players can fetch a premium nowadays. We want to keep an English core to the team. Sell him for £35/40m - to a foreign club if possible. Bring in Ryan Bertrand for £10m and we have Targett to cover LB (and Clyne if necessary) Or tell him to get on with his job and he can go when he's worth £50m! jls217
  • Score: 7

9:40am Tue 24 Jun 14

Saddogitte says...

So the offer has gone up since the threesome request. Perhaps Adam should start stalking Playboy Bunnies too. We will soon be able to afford Suarez!
So the offer has gone up since the threesome request. Perhaps Adam should start stalking Playboy Bunnies too. We will soon be able to afford Suarez! Saddogitte
  • Score: 14

9:44am Tue 24 Jun 14

Dan Howard says...

Why is Melanie Adams, the Echo Crime Reporter covering this? Is it because the price is daylight robbery by Saints or is it Melanie's syntax. "SAINTS star Luke Shaw could become the most expensive teenager in history after reports that Manchester United has offered £34m for the defender, it is reported today." A course in basic English wouldn't go amiss here I think. Take the reported money, reportedly reported today and run I say. I wonder how many left backs or threesomes you could buy with £34m
Why is Melanie Adams, the Echo Crime Reporter covering this? Is it because the price is daylight robbery by Saints or is it Melanie's syntax. "SAINTS star Luke Shaw could become the most expensive teenager in history after reports that Manchester United has offered £34m for the defender, it is reported today." A course in basic English wouldn't go amiss here I think. Take the reported money, reportedly reported today and run I say. I wonder how many left backs or threesomes you could buy with £34m Dan Howard
  • Score: 8

9:47am Tue 24 Jun 14

ian redhill says...

Matt Targett is ready to step up so take the money but at least £40 million and in one go with a sell on clause of 50% of any profit. Lets see if we can bankrupt manure and diverpool at the same time. £60 million for Lovren and we can rebuild just don't sell Morgan and Jack Cork.
Matt Targett is ready to step up so take the money but at least £40 million and in one go with a sell on clause of 50% of any profit. Lets see if we can bankrupt manure and diverpool at the same time. £60 million for Lovren and we can rebuild just don't sell Morgan and Jack Cork. ian redhill
  • Score: 10

9:49am Tue 24 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

ESTIMATE AT MARKET VALUE - Shaw is worth about 40 MILLION..

That figure will rise to 60-70 Million when the lad is in his 20's

His attacking flair and his delivery makes him THAT GOOD. COYR
ESTIMATE AT MARKET VALUE - Shaw is worth about 40 MILLION.. That figure will rise to 60-70 Million when the lad is in his 20's His attacking flair and his delivery makes him THAT GOOD. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 8

9:52am Tue 24 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

mrs pepperpot wrote:
Pathetic... Football is ridiculous.
stick to your knitting then my dear !
[quote][p][bold]mrs pepperpot[/bold] wrote: Pathetic... Football is ridiculous.[/p][/quote]stick to your knitting then my dear ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 13

9:53am Tue 24 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Trouble with taking the money is that everyone then knows you have money.hence they raise their prices to you.we end up paying way over the odds.if they have offered 34mil then we should take and go get cresswell from ipswich.have you seen his stats? Cresswell and targett fighting for left back spot would be me.also tell osvaldo he is going nowhere,then stick him in the u21s until he realises his only way out is to perform so well that another club want to buy him.might get a good season out of him. Also some positive statements along the lines of " I am staying" from a few key players would work wonders.
Trouble with taking the money is that everyone then knows you have money.hence they raise their prices to you.we end up paying way over the odds.if they have offered 34mil then we should take and go get cresswell from ipswich.have you seen his stats? Cresswell and targett fighting for left back spot would be me.also tell osvaldo he is going nowhere,then stick him in the u21s until he realises his only way out is to perform so well that another club want to buy him.might get a good season out of him. Also some positive statements along the lines of " I am staying" from a few key players would work wonders. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 20

9:55am Tue 24 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
This is just the start of the Man U trying to wind their neck back in gracefully. It’s the same as with Lallana. The only official statement from any of the parties involved has been an emphatic “no sale” policy from Saints. All of a sudden Shaw is overpriced and so is Lallana.

Not sure what this has to do with “sexting” though!
thats the echo sexing the story up , as usual !
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: This is just the start of the Man U trying to wind their neck back in gracefully. It’s the same as with Lallana. The only official statement from any of the parties involved has been an emphatic “no sale” policy from Saints. All of a sudden Shaw is overpriced and so is Lallana. Not sure what this has to do with “sexting” though![/p][/quote]thats the echo sexing the story up , as usual ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 2

9:58am Tue 24 Jun 14

notaclue says...

What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them. notaclue
  • Score: 6

9:59am Tue 24 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Why was this article written by a "Crime Reporter"? Does the Echo know something it is telling us?
Its because they know there could be some day light robbery going on ! shaw to man u 60 mil ...starting bids!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Why was this article written by a "Crime Reporter"? Does the Echo know something it is telling us?[/p][/quote]Its because they know there could be some day light robbery going on ! shaw to man u 60 mil ...starting bids! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 5

10:08am Tue 24 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
Loyalty should be a three-way street. Supporters should be loyal to the club and players, players loyal to the club and supporters, and the club loyal to the players and supporters.

I expect I will now be in for a dose of realism.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]Loyalty should be a three-way street. Supporters should be loyal to the club and players, players loyal to the club and supporters, and the club loyal to the players and supporters. I expect I will now be in for a dose of realism. Rising_Son
  • Score: 16

10:11am Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things" steekeemcglue
  • Score: 5

10:15am Tue 24 Jun 14

deepheat says...

I admire the way Les Reed and the board are dealing with the "mass exodus" of players. They got the best manager available in Ronald Koeman and I am sure there will be a few surprise signings on the way.

Man U boss LVG knows he has to deliver and will pay what we ask for Shaw knowing that Jose Mourinho is watching and waiting to pounce.

As for Liverpooooooooh they just want to play silly b@ggers with stupid offers and add on's for Lallana. Brenda Rogers should just pay the £30 million or........STFU.

As for Lovren if he leaves Southampton it will be for Barcelona.where he will team up with Luis Suarez and dump Liverpooooooh out of the CL.
I admire the way Les Reed and the board are dealing with the "mass exodus" of players. They got the best manager available in Ronald Koeman and I am sure there will be a few surprise signings on the way. Man U boss LVG knows he has to deliver and will pay what we ask for Shaw knowing that Jose Mourinho is watching and waiting to pounce. As for Liverpooooooooh they just want to play silly b@ggers with stupid offers and add on's for Lallana. Brenda Rogers should just pay the £30 million or........STFU. As for Lovren if he leaves Southampton it will be for Barcelona.where he will team up with Luis Suarez and dump Liverpooooooh out of the CL. deepheat
  • Score: 17

10:18am Tue 24 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

10:20am Tue 24 Jun 14

StElsass says...

Isn't this being reported by the same people who said a month ago that the deal was completed bar some finer details and that the transfer would be announced imminently?
Those people who are now also telling us that Liverpool are making another take it or leave it offer for AL?
I think unscrupulous is the word to be used here.
Isn't this being reported by the same people who said a month ago that the deal was completed bar some finer details and that the transfer would be announced imminently? Those people who are now also telling us that Liverpool are making another take it or leave it offer for AL? I think unscrupulous is the word to be used here. StElsass
  • Score: 11

10:23am Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
but Koeman would not have signed any of those... MoPo had a reputation at Espanyol for not having a clue in that department... I hope we start 14/15 without 3 certain players , but with 5 or 6 new ones and some change.... oh and of course a semi decent kit so as not too look pokey and small fry in the eyes of the world....
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]but Koeman would not have signed any of those... MoPo had a reputation at Espanyol for not having a clue in that department... I hope we start 14/15 without 3 certain players , but with 5 or 6 new ones and some change.... oh and of course a semi decent kit so as not too look pokey and small fry in the eyes of the world.... [ Global brand and all that ] steekeemcglue
  • Score: 2

10:23am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
Is there not a chance that the new Manager can sell his intentions to these alleged wantaways, is there a chance they might buy into the project and decide to stay on, isn't there a chance we could make them a comfortable offer which meets their needs, you seem to be very good at judging players on a minimum package of misinformation, why do you think posting this speculation is somehow good for the rest of us to read, we aren't as naive as you seem to believe and we know of all of the options, but see no point in posting negative speculation based on lazy Press reporting or with need to wind people up.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]Is there not a chance that the new Manager can sell his intentions to these alleged wantaways, is there a chance they might buy into the project and decide to stay on, isn't there a chance we could make them a comfortable offer which meets their needs, you seem to be very good at judging players on a minimum package of misinformation, why do you think posting this speculation is somehow good for the rest of us to read, we aren't as naive as you seem to believe and we know of all of the options, but see no point in posting negative speculation based on lazy Press reporting or with need to wind people up. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

10:26am Tue 24 Jun 14

Egomaniac says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?). Egomaniac
  • Score: 12

10:26am Tue 24 Jun 14

IOAD says...

See, Liverpool? That's how you do business.
I'm not saying it's an offer we want to take up, but it's not an insult. That's because Manchester Utd is one of the big boys of world football, and Liverpool are a joke. If you want to buy Lallana, this is the way to go about it... if you can.
See, Liverpool? That's how you do business. I'm not saying it's an offer we want to take up, but it's not an insult. That's because Manchester Utd is one of the big boys of world football, and Liverpool are a joke. If you want to buy Lallana, this is the way to go about it... if you can. IOAD
  • Score: -71

10:28am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will.
We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

10:33am Tue 24 Jun 14

zurichboy says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
Because if we let him go for anything less than 40K it will be a gross misdemeanour.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Because if we let him go for anything less than 40K it will be a gross misdemeanour. zurichboy
  • Score: 3

10:37am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will be up to it.
We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will be up to it. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

10:37am Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

IOAD wrote:
See, Liverpool? That's how you do business. I'm not saying it's an offer we want to take up, but it's not an insult. That's because Manchester Utd is one of the big boys of world football, and Liverpool are a joke. If you want to buy Lallana, this is the way to go about it... if you can.
LFC can't afford Lallana - we have to give the Fruits 25% of anything we get, so what LFC will have to pay will be too much for them, Champions League or no Champions League.
[quote][p][bold]IOAD[/bold] wrote: See, Liverpool? That's how you do business. I'm not saying it's an offer we want to take up, but it's not an insult. That's because Manchester Utd is one of the big boys of world football, and Liverpool are a joke. If you want to buy Lallana, this is the way to go about it... if you can.[/p][/quote]LFC can't afford Lallana - we have to give the Fruits 25% of anything we get, so what LFC will have to pay will be too much for them, Champions League or no Champions League. Jan28th1984
  • Score: -1

10:38am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will be up to it.
Sorry for the duplicate message, the site hung up on me as I was posting.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: We will be required to nominate a 25 man Squad before the Season starts, there will have to be a lot of in and out action before we will be able to do that. The next few weeks could be quite interesting but I hope Ronko does his business sensibly and I think he will be up to it.[/p][/quote]Sorry for the duplicate message, the site hung up on me as I was posting. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:42am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

zurichboy wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
Because if we let him go for anything less than 40K it will be a gross misdemeanour.
£40m do you mean?
[quote][p][bold]zurichboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Because if we let him go for anything less than 40K it will be a gross misdemeanour.[/p][/quote]£40m do you mean? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 8

10:44am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Shhhhhhhh!
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhh! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:44am Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
No, this is a story about Louis Van Gaal interfering with young boys for cash, so the Daily Echo has chosen well.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]No, this is a story about Louis Van Gaal interfering with young boys for cash, so the Daily Echo has chosen well. SaintJD
  • Score: 6

10:47am Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

Egomaniac wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
also there is a natural evolution to things... Our Saints squad looks plan-less at times at home towards the end of the season. Part of this was MoPo looking out of his depth and part of it for me looked like the team was too templates and was due a change... obviously gentle change is preferable but with a new guy at the helm its not a bad thing to start the next phase of Saints recent revival with a re-vamped squad.... Good luck to all those that leave .... it will be mutually beneficial for all concerned I am sure ,,,, but its a shame that courtesy to the fans was abandoned in the process. But then again this is football....
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).[/p][/quote]also there is a natural evolution to things... Our Saints squad looks plan-less at times at home towards the end of the season. Part of this was MoPo looking out of his depth and part of it for me looked like the team was too templates and was due a change... obviously gentle change is preferable but with a new guy at the helm its not a bad thing to start the next phase of Saints recent revival with a re-vamped squad.... Good luck to all those that leave .... it will be mutually beneficial for all concerned I am sure ,,,, but its a shame that courtesy to the fans was abandoned in the process. But then again this is football.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 0

10:49am Tue 24 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

When he (LS) plays a blinder tonight and weighs in with two assists for Lallana and SRL (when he comes on for the second half) the bid will need to be increased nearer the £40M mark or I can see someone like PSG, Man City or Chelsea taking an interest. Which would be nice to snub Manure.
Meanwhile......The skunts have shelled out £50 on some cheap blue paint to upgrade the home changing room.
COYR FOADP
When he (LS) plays a blinder tonight and weighs in with two assists for Lallana and SRL (when he comes on for the second half) the bid will need to be increased nearer the £40M mark or I can see someone like PSG, Man City or Chelsea taking an interest. Which would be nice to snub Manure. Meanwhile......The skunts have shelled out £50 on some cheap blue paint to upgrade the home changing room. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 5

10:50am Tue 24 Jun 14

9 Toes Romsey says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
"You only live round the corner"
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]"You only live round the corner" 9 Toes Romsey
  • Score: 10

10:50am Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road),

What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now. SaintJD
  • Score: 10

10:52am Tue 24 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
You only w@nk round the corner....bore off
COYR
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]You only w@nk round the corner....bore off COYR J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

10:56am Tue 24 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

Take that and buy him back in 5 years ...................
Take that and buy him back in 5 years ................... Buddy SFC
  • Score: 2

10:56am Tue 24 Jun 14

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

Whats Melanie Adams (crime reporter) commenting on football. Daily Echo ,Portsmouth supporters!!!, rubbish again!!
Whats Melanie Adams (crime reporter) commenting on football. Daily Echo ,Portsmouth supporters!!!, rubbish again!! CHARLIE TAYLOR
  • Score: 4

10:58am Tue 24 Jun 14

Abbey Saint says...

Sussex Jay wrote:
Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!!
Careful - teams who buy loads of players end up with just loads of players and no team. Witness Spurs Norwich Sunderland etc.
Saints should sell only if's right for them and not just for money. I believe Koeman can pick up on Saints team ethic, run with it and improve us. But he won't find it easy if we have a bunch of new faces to integrate who have no experience of the Saints Way.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote: Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!![/p][/quote]Careful - teams who buy loads of players end up with just loads of players and no team. Witness Spurs Norwich Sunderland etc. Saints should sell only if's right for them and not just for money. I believe Koeman can pick up on Saints team ethic, run with it and improve us. But he won't find it easy if we have a bunch of new faces to integrate who have no experience of the Saints Way. Abbey Saint
  • Score: 8

11:02am Tue 24 Jun 14

lowe esteem says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
£34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that!

Lol

Ask em for £45m and see what they say.
Who? Buttner?
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: £34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that! Lol Ask em for £45m and see what they say.[/p][/quote]Who? Buttner? lowe esteem
  • Score: 2

11:05am Tue 24 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Bit ironic that a club so massively in debt can bid so much for a player at a club with such a healthy finances.
Bit ironic that a club so massively in debt can bid so much for a player at a club with such a healthy finances. Confucious
  • Score: 7

11:06am Tue 24 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

11:07am Tue 24 Jun 14

Alicesdad says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
Excellent observation. But I must say the crime is surely that any player can be worth this much money in business terms? I thought the Bale price tag was just insane and the whole upper end transfer market is simply beyond comprehension.

So on careful consideration .. who cares ? ... get in touch with the solicitors, Sue Grabbit and Run - and get the deal signed.

As long as that price isnt composed of "add ons" and "only ifs" .. then we really should take the money now. Shaw is undoubtedly a very good left back but when some club comes in with quite frankly a "stupid money" big offer then its good business sense to accept and move on. The real trick is to invest it wisely .. and thats RKs job along with Les Reed.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Excellent observation. But I must say the crime is surely that any player can be worth this much money in business terms? I thought the Bale price tag was just insane and the whole upper end transfer market is simply beyond comprehension. So on careful consideration .. who cares ? ... get in touch with the solicitors, Sue Grabbit and Run - and get the deal signed. As long as that price isnt composed of "add ons" and "only ifs" .. then we really should take the money now. Shaw is undoubtedly a very good left back but when some club comes in with quite frankly a "stupid money" big offer then its good business sense to accept and move on. The real trick is to invest it wisely .. and thats RKs job along with Les Reed. Alicesdad
  • Score: 3

11:17am Tue 24 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power.

It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into.

I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it.

For Red success - vote Blue!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue! Confucious
  • Score: 6

11:19am Tue 24 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road),

What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh !
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 3

11:26am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Alicesdad wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
Excellent observation. But I must say the crime is surely that any player can be worth this much money in business terms? I thought the Bale price tag was just insane and the whole upper end transfer market is simply beyond comprehension.

So on careful consideration .. who cares ? ... get in touch with the solicitors, Sue Grabbit and Run - and get the deal signed.

As long as that price isnt composed of "add ons" and "only ifs" .. then we really should take the money now. Shaw is undoubtedly a very good left back but when some club comes in with quite frankly a "stupid money" big offer then its good business sense to accept and move on. The real trick is to invest it wisely .. and thats RKs job along with Les Reed.
The real crime is that the fans are always the last to know what is going on despite pouring tons of loot into the coffers. Commercialism is the real cause of most of our woes.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]Excellent observation. But I must say the crime is surely that any player can be worth this much money in business terms? I thought the Bale price tag was just insane and the whole upper end transfer market is simply beyond comprehension. So on careful consideration .. who cares ? ... get in touch with the solicitors, Sue Grabbit and Run - and get the deal signed. As long as that price isnt composed of "add ons" and "only ifs" .. then we really should take the money now. Shaw is undoubtedly a very good left back but when some club comes in with quite frankly a "stupid money" big offer then its good business sense to accept and move on. The real trick is to invest it wisely .. and thats RKs job along with Les Reed.[/p][/quote]The real crime is that the fans are always the last to know what is going on despite pouring tons of loot into the coffers. Commercialism is the real cause of most of our woes. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

11:31am Tue 24 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
Sussex Jay wrote:
Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!!
Careful - teams who buy loads of players end up with just loads of players and no team. Witness Spurs Norwich Sunderland etc.
Saints should sell only if's right for them and not just for money. I believe Koeman can pick up on Saints team ethic, run with it and improve us. But he won't find it easy if we have a bunch of new faces to integrate who have no experience of the Saints Way.
I agree, you can add QPR to that list.
I don’t want anyone to leave, with 3 shrewd new quality signings from Ron I can see us giving all the big teams and Liverpool and Spurs plenty of headaches ...... again.
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex Jay[/bold] wrote: Agree sell ASAP and rebuild the team coyr!!![/p][/quote]Careful - teams who buy loads of players end up with just loads of players and no team. Witness Spurs Norwich Sunderland etc. Saints should sell only if's right for them and not just for money. I believe Koeman can pick up on Saints team ethic, run with it and improve us. But he won't find it easy if we have a bunch of new faces to integrate who have no experience of the Saints Way.[/p][/quote]I agree, you can add QPR to that list. I don’t want anyone to leave, with 3 shrewd new quality signings from Ron I can see us giving all the big teams and Liverpool and Spurs plenty of headaches ...... again. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: -3

11:31am Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

lowe esteem wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote: £34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that! Lol Ask em for £45m and see what they say.
Who? Buttner?
No
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: £34m! Lol - what a bunch of mugs Man U are! You can get a top-rated left-back from anywhere round Europe for half that! Lol Ask em for £45m and see what they say.[/p][/quote]Who? Buttner?[/p][/quote]No Jan28th1984
  • Score: 4

11:36am Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose? Jan28th1984
  • Score: 4

11:41am Tue 24 Jun 14

Golden_Salamander says...

For those saying accept the offer, what would you say if it turned out to only contain a SMALL fixed amount, say £10-£15m spread over 5 years (2-3m a year) and the rest was made up of ADD Ons,
I.e. - a few £m when he plays 50 games even though he is behind Evra next season could mean 3 years before we get that money.
- How many years before he plays 20 games for England ? - 4 to 5 years.
- How many times are they going to win the PL or the European Cup in 5 years ?

As with the Diverpool offers you never know whether the Add Ons are going to get paid. For all we know the player might chose to give up football and go and live with a some sisters in California.
For those saying accept the offer, what would you say if it turned out to only contain a SMALL fixed amount, say £10-£15m spread over 5 years (2-3m a year) and the rest was made up of ADD Ons, I.e. - a few £m when he plays 50 games even though he is behind Evra next season could mean 3 years before we get that money. - How many years before he plays 20 games for England ? - 4 to 5 years. - How many times are they going to win the PL or the European Cup in 5 years ? As with the Diverpool offers you never know whether the Add Ons are going to get paid. For all we know the player might chose to give up football and go and live with a some sisters in California. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 6

11:41am Tue 24 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".
He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club.
Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team?
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.[/p][/quote]Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".[/p][/quote]He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club. Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team? Costa Baz
  • Score: 3

11:47am Tue 24 Jun 14

Winsaint says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so. Winsaint
  • Score: 2

11:47am Tue 24 Jun 14

Winsaint says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so. Winsaint
  • Score: 0

11:47am Tue 24 Jun 14

Winsaint says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so. Winsaint
  • Score: 0

11:50am Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End.

And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".
The Stretford End is called the West Stand and tickets are £703-00 for Upper seats and £532-00 for the Lower seats. No £600 tickets.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.[/p][/quote]Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".[/p][/quote]The Stretford End is called the West Stand and tickets are £703-00 for Upper seats and £532-00 for the Lower seats. No £600 tickets. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

11:57am Tue 24 Jun 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

Touchy Skunt alert! Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Touchy Skunt alert! Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhh! TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 2

12:01pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Costa Baz says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".
He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club. Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team?
I'm supporting them because I have been brought up to do so. My parents and grandparents have been supporting and following them from way before they came in to any glory and I will continue to do so regardless of how long it takes us to recover from a poor season. So I'd hardly say a glory hunter but make whatever judgement you feel necessary.
So you're not from Manchester then.

I wasn't making a judgement, just trying to explain what I thought the original poster was getting at.

Your defensive response kind of confirms my suspicions, though.
And, in case you don't know, Manure's glory years go back quite a long way, so unless your parents and grandparents have Mancunian links, then you are all glory hunters.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.[/p][/quote]Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".[/p][/quote]He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club. Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team?[/p][/quote]I'm supporting them because I have been brought up to do so. My parents and grandparents have been supporting and following them from way before they came in to any glory and I will continue to do so regardless of how long it takes us to recover from a poor season. So I'd hardly say a glory hunter but make whatever judgement you feel necessary.[/p][/quote]So you're not from Manchester then. I wasn't making a judgement, just trying to explain what I thought the original poster was getting at. Your defensive response kind of confirms my suspicions, though. And, in case you don't know, Manure's glory years go back quite a long way, so unless your parents and grandparents have Mancunian links, then you are all glory hunters. Costa Baz
  • Score: 6

12:07pm Tue 24 Jun 14

NewForestStu says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
No doubt a plastic.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]No doubt a plastic. NewForestStu
  • Score: 2

12:08pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".
The Stretford End is called the West Stand and tickets are £703-00 for Upper seats and £532-00 for the Lower seats. No £600 tickets.
Considering I said around the £600 mark that enables it to be varied either side of that mark.
You said you had a ticket yet you can't quote how much you paid for it, sorry I smell fish and it could be impairing my better judgement.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.[/p][/quote]Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".[/p][/quote]The Stretford End is called the West Stand and tickets are £703-00 for Upper seats and £532-00 for the Lower seats. No £600 tickets.[/p][/quote]Considering I said around the £600 mark that enables it to be varied either side of that mark.[/p][/quote]You said you had a ticket yet you can't quote how much you paid for it, sorry I smell fish and it could be impairing my better judgement. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

12:10pm Tue 24 Jun 14

NewForestStu says...

Costa Baz wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Costa Baz wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
J7junctionseven wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.
Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.
Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.
Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".
He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club. Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team?
I'm supporting them because I have been brought up to do so. My parents and grandparents have been supporting and following them from way before they came in to any glory and I will continue to do so regardless of how long it takes us to recover from a poor season. So I'd hardly say a glory hunter but make whatever judgement you feel necessary.
So you're not from Manchester then.

I wasn't making a judgement, just trying to explain what I thought the original poster was getting at.

Your defensive response kind of confirms my suspicions, though.
And, in case you don't know, Manure's glory years go back quite a long way, so unless your parents and grandparents have Mancunian links, then you are all glory hunters.
Nope, a true 'plastic'...but his family have been true plastics for many years.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]Yeah, with a budget about 20 times the size. Well done PremierLeagueWanker, (or should I can you Lee, LFC Always or whatever your disguise is today from your bunker down the road), What your post should really say is: I love it when saints fans call us crap or 'manure' yet they are forgetting that none of us live anywhere near Manchester or have any genuine link to the club, yet we still followed them for the glory, even though we look a bit foolish and regret it now.[/p][/quote]Define your meaning of "any genuine link to the club" Do i go to games? Yes. Do I have a season ticket? Yes.[/p][/quote]Season ticket for the skunts is only about £300 so well done.[/p][/quote]Try around the £600 mark for a seat in the Stretford End. And again please define your meaning of "a genuine link to the club".[/p][/quote]He probably means are you from Manchester, in which case you have a genuine link to eithe Manc club. Or are you from elsewhere and supporting them because you are a glory hunter, whilst shunning a local team?[/p][/quote]I'm supporting them because I have been brought up to do so. My parents and grandparents have been supporting and following them from way before they came in to any glory and I will continue to do so regardless of how long it takes us to recover from a poor season. So I'd hardly say a glory hunter but make whatever judgement you feel necessary.[/p][/quote]So you're not from Manchester then. I wasn't making a judgement, just trying to explain what I thought the original poster was getting at. Your defensive response kind of confirms my suspicions, though. And, in case you don't know, Manure's glory years go back quite a long way, so unless your parents and grandparents have Mancunian links, then you are all glory hunters.[/p][/quote]Nope, a true 'plastic'...but his family have been true plastics for many years. NewForestStu
  • Score: 5

12:13pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

Sometimes a prize asset can become an albatross around your neck. Moving Rickie on has allowed us to move beyond that (scary though!)

I don’t think £34m is realistic. I would love to see how the average deal is structured. If we sold him i reckon we would probably get 10m upfront about another 10m in installments and about 7m "add ons" (European Player of the season, World Cup Golden Boot all that jazz).

That said… if selling Shaw allowed us to get two QUALITY LBs I would be happy. Our Right backs are perfect and it shows. Good competition and regular football for both.
Sometimes a prize asset can become an albatross around your neck. Moving Rickie on has allowed us to move beyond that (scary though!) I don’t think £34m is realistic. I would love to see how the average deal is structured. If we sold him i reckon we would probably get 10m upfront about another 10m in installments and about 7m "add ons" (European Player of the season, World Cup Golden Boot all that jazz). That said… if selling Shaw allowed us to get two QUALITY LBs I would be happy. Our Right backs are perfect and it shows. Good competition and regular football for both. Jesus_02
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Graham, North of Watford says...

Simples.

First and foremost, if a player wants to leave then let him go (But only if the Price is Right)

3 tier Sale price

Full market Value, lets say £40 mill and that's it

Less than market value, Say £30 mill plus a 25% share of any sell on fee.

Low market value ( Because you are desperate, Which we are not) Around £25 mill + 50% of sell on.

With this sort of selling structure we have a chance to realise the full future financial potential of a player.

Everyone's a winner

(Wish I'd just thought of that. Oh, whoops, I just did)

Seriously, its such a bummer watching the FAT CAT CLUBS licking at the cream bowl all the time. I've just re-read the Guardian article of money/debts in football and have reminded myself that Chelsea's net debt is £958 mill, Man Utd is £295 mill, Liverpool is £119 mill and Saints is £19m. as at June 2013.
It is manifestly obvious that where Owners are prepared to treat Football Clubs like toys the rest of us don't stand a chance.

I say thank God for the Swiss ownership we have and prudent banking and plain, commonsense dealings on the financial front. If they have to sell key assets then we need to trust that they will reinvest in the club and not a new yacht in Monte Carlo
Simples. First and foremost, if a player wants to leave then let him go (But only if the Price is Right) 3 tier Sale price Full market Value, lets say £40 mill and that's it Less than market value, Say £30 mill plus a 25% share of any sell on fee. Low market value ( Because you are desperate, Which we are not) Around £25 mill + 50% of sell on. With this sort of selling structure we have a chance to realise the full future financial potential of a player. Everyone's a winner (Wish I'd just thought of that. Oh, whoops, I just did) Seriously, its such a bummer watching the FAT CAT CLUBS licking at the cream bowl all the time. I've just re-read the Guardian article of money/debts in football and have reminded myself that Chelsea's net debt is £958 mill, Man Utd is £295 mill, Liverpool is £119 mill and Saints is £19m. as at June 2013. It is manifestly obvious that where Owners are prepared to treat Football Clubs like toys the rest of us don't stand a chance. I say thank God for the Swiss ownership we have and prudent banking and plain, commonsense dealings on the financial front. If they have to sell key assets then we need to trust that they will reinvest in the club and not a new yacht in Monte Carlo Graham, North of Watford
  • Score: 3

12:23pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Georgethepie says...

Sounds like a good starting figure 34 million chuck in Hernandez and you have a deal.
Sounds like a good starting figure 34 million chuck in Hernandez and you have a deal. Georgethepie
  • Score: 0

12:25pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Winsaint wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out.

Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside.

Now go and f*ck yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.[/p][/quote]I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself. Jan28th1984
  • Score: -9

12:28pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
For those saying accept the offer, what would you say if it turned out to only contain a SMALL fixed amount, say £10-£15m spread over 5 years (2-3m a year) and the rest was made up of ADD Ons, I.e. - a few £m when he plays 50 games even though he is behind Evra next season could mean 3 years before we get that money. - How many years before he plays 20 games for England ? - 4 to 5 years. - How many times are they going to win the PL or the European Cup in 5 years ? As with the Diverpool offers you never know whether the Add Ons are going to get paid. For all we know the player might chose to give up football and go and live with a some sisters in California.
I say no add-ons (a 25% sell-on clause is OK though).
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: For those saying accept the offer, what would you say if it turned out to only contain a SMALL fixed amount, say £10-£15m spread over 5 years (2-3m a year) and the rest was made up of ADD Ons, I.e. - a few £m when he plays 50 games even though he is behind Evra next season could mean 3 years before we get that money. - How many years before he plays 20 games for England ? - 4 to 5 years. - How many times are they going to win the PL or the European Cup in 5 years ? As with the Diverpool offers you never know whether the Add Ons are going to get paid. For all we know the player might chose to give up football and go and live with a some sisters in California.[/p][/quote]I say no add-ons (a 25% sell-on clause is OK though). Jan28th1984
  • Score: -2

12:30pm Tue 24 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power.

It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into.

I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it.

For Red success - vote Blue!
*cough*

1976

*cough*
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]*cough* 1976 *cough* St Van Roetford
  • Score: 3

12:34pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
*cough* 1976 *cough*
Yea - lol - you got it - that's why I asked him if he was a loony....
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]*cough* 1976 *cough*[/p][/quote]Yea - lol - you got it - that's why I asked him if he was a loony.... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

12:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations.

Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 1

12:50pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Folkestone Saint says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs.
p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 3

12:55pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power.

It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into.

I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it.

For Red success - vote Blue!
*cough*

1976

*cough*
Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty?

Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]*cough* 1976 *cough*[/p][/quote]Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty? Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 5

12:57pm Tue 24 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
do not sell luke to manure, why would you want to improve our opposition whilst weakening our own team?
£34mill? so if he pays until hes 35 that's 16 years, so he would be valued at £2.19mill a year! keeping him in the team would help the club to win more than that in prize money a year, add to that merchandise that would be sold world wide!
its easy to say `take the money and rebuild the squad` but the squad doesn't need rebuilding. it just needs to have a few quality additions to become a top team.
rebuilding the squad doesn't work anyway, look at all the clubs that have brought in 8+ players previously, blunderland, Norwich and qpr all failed in the season they made mass changes.
Luke is already a top quality player who is only going to improve, and top quality left backs aren't ten a penny, that's why England nearly took cole the oap to the world cup. cole is classed as one of the best left backs ever yet he was replaced by a right back at chelski all season.

as for loyalty, I agree 100% with notaclue. luke has been called all sorts by some fans because he hasn't put out a statement promising to give his soul to saints, or denying he has asked to leave. even though they are just rumours with no proof given. yet as soon as people see money waved at the club they cant wait to get rid of him. as I said before, if you want players to show some loyalty try showing them some! guly was loyal to the club, his goals helped us get promoted, yet how loyal were the fans to him? that's right they booed him when he came on as a sub. the rest of the team heard the booing and some looked quite disgusted at the attitude of the fans. fox got the same treatment and both were hounded out of the club by some of our loyal fans!

remember we don't have to sell luke to improve the squad, we have money to spend already!

keep our stars, improve the squad, support the whole squad and challenge the best, do all that and who knows where we might end up!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! do not sell luke to manure, why would you want to improve our opposition whilst weakening our own team? £34mill? so if he pays until hes 35 that's 16 years, so he would be valued at £2.19mill a year! keeping him in the team would help the club to win more than that in prize money a year, add to that merchandise that would be sold world wide! its easy to say `take the money and rebuild the squad` but the squad doesn't need rebuilding. it just needs to have a few quality additions to become a top team. rebuilding the squad doesn't work anyway, look at all the clubs that have brought in 8+ players previously, blunderland, Norwich and qpr all failed in the season they made mass changes. Luke is already a top quality player who is only going to improve, and top quality left backs aren't ten a penny, that's why England nearly took cole the oap to the world cup. cole is classed as one of the best left backs ever yet he was replaced by a right back at chelski all season. as for loyalty, I agree 100% with notaclue. luke has been called all sorts by some fans because he hasn't put out a statement promising to give his soul to saints, or denying he has asked to leave. even though they are just rumours with no proof given. yet as soon as people see money waved at the club they cant wait to get rid of him. as I said before, if you want players to show some loyalty try showing them some! guly was loyal to the club, his goals helped us get promoted, yet how loyal were the fans to him? that's right they booed him when he came on as a sub. the rest of the team heard the booing and some looked quite disgusted at the attitude of the fans. fox got the same treatment and both were hounded out of the club by some of our loyal fans! remember we don't have to sell luke to improve the squad, we have money to spend already! keep our stars, improve the squad, support the whole squad and challenge the best, do all that and who knows where we might end up! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 11

1:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

NewForestStu says...

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations.

Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.
[quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.[/p][/quote]We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree. NewForestStu
  • Score: 1

1:14pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Tick Tock ... time is running out on Liverpool getting any quality signings before Suarez leaves for Barcelona. Tell them it’s 50M for Adam if they want him Ron.
Tick Tock ... time is running out on Liverpool getting any quality signings before Suarez leaves for Barcelona. Tell them it’s 50M for Adam if they want him Ron. Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 4

1:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jls217 says...

If Rambo can sweettalk or maybe threaten any of the wanaways (if there are any) we don't need a huge amount of money to take this team forward. A GK to keep Borat on his toes. Another CB to play alongside Lovren a striker to partner Sam until JRod gets back and a pacy winger.

I would sell Lallana in a heartbeat - his attitude stinks. He's the only one of those linked with other clubs who we don't need to buy a replacement for.
Gaston can do the job and at a push Cork and or Davis can push forward too.

Can't wait for the season to start - apparently there's a game involving Saints tonight?
If Rambo can sweettalk or maybe threaten any of the wanaways (if there are any) we don't need a huge amount of money to take this team forward. A GK to keep Borat on his toes. Another CB to play alongside Lovren a striker to partner Sam until JRod gets back and a pacy winger. I would sell Lallana in a heartbeat - his attitude stinks. He's the only one of those linked with other clubs who we don't need to buy a replacement for. Gaston can do the job and at a push Cork and or Davis can push forward too. Can't wait for the season to start - apparently there's a game involving Saints tonight? jls217
  • Score: 1

1:40pm Tue 24 Jun 14

oldsaintsfan says...

The FA's view is that England players need to be playing in the Champions League. Clearly by selling LS (and assuming the Dutchman at ManU does the business) this alleged move would suit RH/FA. Not sure I am as happy - yes £30M+in instalments sounds ok for a teenager but selling Bale, TW, AOC et al has not in my view done us much good (and I know it was probably unavoidable).We have to take a stand sometime if we aspire to be something more than a nice regional selling club with a nice nursery for feeding bigger club. And like others on here I am not convinced by our recent transfers in. What is the point of having the academy (from a purely football perspective) if the best talent is immediately sold. Notwithstanding all the business and finance issues hopefully RK supported by the board/owner (and I understand the amazing commitment that is required by the owner) is the man to make a stand and make the change. I have supported saints for way too long - I am starting to get quite old now lol but I live in hope of seeing us playing Champions League at SM. Wherever possible we should not be selling our young talent.
The FA's view is that England players need to be playing in the Champions League. Clearly by selling LS (and assuming the Dutchman at ManU does the business) this alleged move would suit RH/FA. Not sure I am as happy - yes £30M+in instalments sounds ok for a teenager but selling Bale, TW, AOC et al has not in my view done us much good (and I know it was probably unavoidable).We have to take a stand sometime if we aspire to be something more than a nice regional selling club with a nice nursery for feeding bigger club. And like others on here I am not convinced by our recent transfers in. What is the point of having the academy (from a purely football perspective) if the best talent is immediately sold. Notwithstanding all the business and finance issues hopefully RK supported by the board/owner (and I understand the amazing commitment that is required by the owner) is the man to make a stand and make the change. I have supported saints for way too long - I am starting to get quite old now lol but I live in hope of seeing us playing Champions League at SM. Wherever possible we should not be selling our young talent. oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 4

1:41pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

RonKo is busy learnig English in a nunnery not wasting time listening to futile bids from greedy Clubs, http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/article/2
4062014-comment-on-k
oeman-at-the-nunnery
-1668852.aspx
RonKo is busy learnig English in a nunnery not wasting time listening to futile bids from greedy Clubs, http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/article/2 4062014-comment-on-k oeman-at-the-nunnery -1668852.aspx OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power.

It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into.

I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it.

For Red success - vote Blue!
*cough*

1976

*cough*
Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty?

Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
For intellectual comfort, you should both go and support Poopey. They are all socialists now ie: they've got fukc all and they want to share it with the world and raise suffering to a higher level.
[quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]*cough* 1976 *cough*[/p][/quote]Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty? Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.[/p][/quote]For intellectual comfort, you should both go and support Poopey. They are all socialists now ie: they've got fukc all and they want to share it with the world and raise suffering to a higher level. Confucious
  • Score: 5

1:51pm Tue 24 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.
Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.
**£34mill
Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEWANKER
"is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.[/p][/quote]We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.[/p][/quote]Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.[/p][/quote]**£34mill[/p][/quote]Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEWANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today. echo1948
  • Score: 6

1:53pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Winsaint wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out.

Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside.

Now go and f*ck yourself.
Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.[/p][/quote]I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.[/p][/quote]Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

1:53pm Tue 24 Jun 14

notaclue says...

Egomaniac wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd,
Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool
Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool

All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily!
[quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).[/p][/quote]Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd, Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily! notaclue
  • Score: 3

1:55pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

echo1948 wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.
Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.
**£34mill
Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW
ANKER
"is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.
The thought has never crossed my mind>...............
..... well maybe not.
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.[/p][/quote]We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.[/p][/quote]Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.[/p][/quote]**£34mill[/p][/quote]Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW ANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.[/p][/quote]The thought has never crossed my mind>............... ..... well maybe not. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

notaclue wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd,
Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool
Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool

All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily!
Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).[/p][/quote]Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd, Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily![/p][/quote]Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.
Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.
**£34mill
Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW

ANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.
The only problem is. I have absolutely no idea who that is?

I can change my name to Lee though If you like?
I think the last part can stay though.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.[/p][/quote]We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.[/p][/quote]Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.[/p][/quote]**£34mill[/p][/quote]Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW ANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.[/p][/quote]The only problem is. I have absolutely no idea who that is? I can change my name to Lee though If you like?[/p][/quote]I think the last part can stay though. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Folkestone Saint says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say
Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...
Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say[/p][/quote]Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...[/p][/quote]Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
At that price I'd say Thanks Luke off you go and warm a bench in Manchester. Ryan Bertrand of Chelsea is a perfect replacement.
Nothing worse than a Luke warm bench in Manchester.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: At that price I'd say Thanks Luke off you go and warm a bench in Manchester. Ryan Bertrand of Chelsea is a perfect replacement.[/p][/quote]Nothing worse than a Luke warm bench in Manchester. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

2:24pm Tue 24 Jun 14

bathsaints says...

I think it really all depends on whether or not Luke and others for that matter want to stay and play or not? Although I don't want to lose any of our star players I also see the value in a team of players who wear the badge with pride, who work hard and buy into the philosophy that we have developed in terms of the football we play and the way we do things. If Luke or Adam or anyone else doesn't want to be a part of that I feel it is more damaging to us then selling them, in that case sell them but at a good price and in plenty of time to bring in and bed in new players before the season really gets going. I hope we don't lose anyone and that when they come back from the world cup they'll issue statements that they are staying. Money and moving to big clubs don't always work out. Luke especially has years left before he is at his peak. Let us hope we build on last season not tear it all down and start again...
I think it really all depends on whether or not Luke and others for that matter want to stay and play or not? Although I don't want to lose any of our star players I also see the value in a team of players who wear the badge with pride, who work hard and buy into the philosophy that we have developed in terms of the football we play and the way we do things. If Luke or Adam or anyone else doesn't want to be a part of that I feel it is more damaging to us then selling them, in that case sell them but at a good price and in plenty of time to bring in and bed in new players before the season really gets going. I hope we don't lose anyone and that when they come back from the world cup they'll issue statements that they are staying. Money and moving to big clubs don't always work out. Luke especially has years left before he is at his peak. Let us hope we build on last season not tear it all down and start again... bathsaints
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2:33pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Winsaint wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.
Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.
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[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.[/p][/quote]I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.[/p][/quote]Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.[/p][/quote]x Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

2:33pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintSteve76 says...

I think we should hold out for £40m. At times last season Luke looked as good as Ashley Cole in his prime. At 18 he is only going to get better and his price will increase. Look at how much David Luiz went for!
I think we should hold out for £40m. At times last season Luke looked as good as Ashley Cole in his prime. At 18 he is only going to get better and his price will increase. Look at how much David Luiz went for! SaintSteve76
  • Score: 0

2:34pm Tue 24 Jun 14

notaclue says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd,
Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool
Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool

All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily!
Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run.
Yes paying mega bucks but their teams would have been at least 5 places lower in the league last season without them, that would also cost mega bucks and CL spots (not Rooney ;).
You don't just sell every player who hands in a request regardless - at least top teams don't.
The post above says - Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !?
Well ask any Liverpool fan if they want to see Suarez play for them next season?
He got them their CL spot!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).[/p][/quote]Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd, Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily![/p][/quote]Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run.[/p][/quote]Yes paying mega bucks but their teams would have been at least 5 places lower in the league last season without them, that would also cost mega bucks and CL spots (not Rooney ;). You don't just sell every player who hands in a request regardless - at least top teams don't. The post above says - Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Well ask any Liverpool fan if they want to see Suarez play for them next season? He got them their CL spot! notaclue
  • Score: 1

2:35pm Tue 24 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

Confucious wrote:
Mush On The Beach wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power.

It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into.

I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it.

For Red success - vote Blue!
*cough*

1976

*cough*
Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty?

Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
For intellectual comfort, you should both go and support Poopey. They are all socialists now ie: they've got fukc all and they want to share it with the world and raise suffering to a higher level.
A manager must have plans, obviously! So if RK decides to let anyone go, then I am happy it is part of his plans. And if £34 million is likely, then it must be very tempting.

For Luke, the worry would be that he is still learning and some more experience will make him worth a lot more - remember Gareth Bale and the eventual £87 million when he left Spuds.

So for me, keep him another couple of seasons and get a lot more, but whatever happens a big sell-on clause is vital. Am I right, we only got peanuts for GB's move to Real?
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mush On The Beach[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]*cough* 1976 *cough*[/p][/quote]Remind me, was Confucius a Red Chinese Socialist who promoted virtues of the working class or a Blue Fascist of the Ming Thatcher Dynasty? Confucius says ..... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.[/p][/quote]For intellectual comfort, you should both go and support Poopey. They are all socialists now ie: they've got fukc all and they want to share it with the world and raise suffering to a higher level.[/p][/quote]A manager must have plans, obviously! So if RK decides to let anyone go, then I am happy it is part of his plans. And if £34 million is likely, then it must be very tempting. For Luke, the worry would be that he is still learning and some more experience will make him worth a lot more - remember Gareth Bale and the eventual £87 million when he left Spuds. So for me, keep him another couple of seasons and get a lot more, but whatever happens a big sell-on clause is vital. Am I right, we only got peanuts for GB's move to Real? saintbobby
  • Score: 0

2:35pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
echo1948 wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
NewForestStu wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.
We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.
Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.
**£34mill
Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW

ANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.
The only problem is. I have absolutely no idea who that is?

I can change my name to Lee though If you like?
Write some poetry then.Making it good,is the only way to prove you're not Lee.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NewForestStu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]I don't think for a minute we will sell him now we have Koeman but he's not in the Bale bracket. Bale was quicker than Walcott at Saints but had the engine to keep it going. What sets Shaw apart is his mentality as he plays the game like a seasoned pro. He has a good football brain more like Oxlaide Chamberlain. That said he will always be a left back whereas Bale was destined to be more of an attacking player and attacking players have higher valuations. Anything over £30m for Shaw would be excellent financial business for Saints but we aren't developing our players to be sold so it's a non-starter if we don't want to sell him we can command up to £40m for it.[/p][/quote]We shouldn't forget also we are not in the same financial mess anymore, therefore ask for 40M up front and put a 25% sell on clause within the deal. If they really want him then they will agree.[/p][/quote]Although I would say he is worth that much, I don't think he will reach that price though personally. I think there is a good chance we will get him for £34 with a sell on clause.[/p][/quote]**£34mill[/p][/quote]Have you noticed that while "PREMIERLEAGUEW ANKER "is on this site there is no sign of "LEE FROM THE LANE".One of the same perhaps unless Lee is at school today.[/p][/quote]The only problem is. I have absolutely no idea who that is? I can change my name to Lee though If you like?[/p][/quote]Write some poetry then.Making it good,is the only way to prove you're not Lee. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

2:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Winsaint wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.
Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.
x
Are you cross with me?
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.[/p][/quote]I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.[/p][/quote]Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.[/p][/quote]x[/p][/quote]Are you cross with me? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:42pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say
Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...
Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc
The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572.

You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself?

Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid?

Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself?

And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.
This site has had so many false posters, we don't believe real ones when they come on here and especially ones that start with a negative post like yours, don't feel the need to defend "your" team on here because frankly we aren't bothered. If you don't want to see "your" team get on the end of some silly banter, stay away and you won't know it's happening. Ignorance is bliss.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say[/p][/quote]Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...[/p][/quote]Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc[/p][/quote]The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572. You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself? Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid? Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself? And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.[/p][/quote]This site has had so many false posters, we don't believe real ones when they come on here and especially ones that start with a negative post like yours, don't feel the need to defend "your" team on here because frankly we aren't bothered. If you don't want to see "your" team get on the end of some silly banter, stay away and you won't know it's happening. Ignorance is bliss. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 5

2:47pm Tue 24 Jun 14

steekeemcglue says...

in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !? steekeemcglue
  • Score: -2

2:48pm Tue 24 Jun 14

notaclue says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
Nice weather today.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]Nice weather today. notaclue
  • Score: 2

2:51pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid!
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:52pm Tue 24 Jun 14

notaclue says...

Reports out there saying Koeman wants LS and AL to stay and is interested in buying Javier Hernandez.

Thats more like it!!!!
Reports out there saying Koeman wants LS and AL to stay and is interested in buying Javier Hernandez. Thats more like it!!!! notaclue
  • Score: 3

2:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

2:57pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.
Why don't you just save £30 million and buy Costa Rica's first choice left back? £34 million for an England reserve isn't great, even if he's young (and let's face it, very talented).

If Man Utd give me £40 million they can sign my son - he's only seven and has a lot of potential. And he's English. Could be worth a lot in a few years time. Of course if he was Brazilian and had stupid hair (or just had stupid hair and played for Everton) some dopes would come in with even more, but never mind.

Chelsea sell two undisciplined reserves they don't want for £85 million and get Costa and Fabregas for half that amount. Priceless.
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: Personally I think If we get him for £34mill then we are getting a cracking deal. 5-6 more years and he's worth a potential double that amount seeing as David Luiz has just left the Premier League for £50mill.[/p][/quote]Why don't you just save £30 million and buy Costa Rica's first choice left back? £34 million for an England reserve isn't great, even if he's young (and let's face it, very talented). If Man Utd give me £40 million they can sign my son - he's only seven and has a lot of potential. And he's English. Could be worth a lot in a few years time. Of course if he was Brazilian and had stupid hair (or just had stupid hair and played for Everton) some dopes would come in with even more, but never mind. Chelsea sell two undisciplined reserves they don't want for £85 million and get Costa and Fabregas for half that amount. Priceless. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

2:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
Was this site/forum actually around five years ago? And can I have some jam please.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.[/p][/quote]Was this site/forum actually around five years ago? And can I have some jam please. SaintJD
  • Score: 2

2:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

notaclue wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
notaclue wrote:
Egomaniac wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
notaclue wrote:
What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go.

Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay?

Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke.

Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL.

Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave....

And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"
You sum up the case very well!

Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone.

So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future,

By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).
Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd,
Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool
Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool

All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily!
Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run.
Yes paying mega bucks but their teams would have been at least 5 places lower in the league last season without them, that would also cost mega bucks and CL spots (not Rooney ;).
You don't just sell every player who hands in a request regardless - at least top teams don't.
The post above says - Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !?
Well ask any Liverpool fan if they want to see Suarez play for them next season?
He got them their CL spot!
Good point, and you are correct, the problem is when you make mistakes like Osvaldo, makes you think twice, hope lessons were learned.
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Egomaniac[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]its about a series of events.... once the player wants to leave.... then let them leave at the right price !? Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Its ridiculous.... let them leave.... And the loyalty thing is not about them wanting to leave , that is not the issue, its putting it out in public before the world cup and disrespecting the fans of the club. If during pre-season any stupid "big" club want to pay stupid money for our players then fine , let them , a good manager will buy well. A good manager will not spend £12M on average players.... with £80M transfer money we should easily be able to build for the next phase.... players come and go but the team needs players all pulling in the same direction , not with their eyes on "better things"[/p][/quote]You sum up the case very well! Let's be clear - players like Lallana and Shaw believe there is a better future for them at another Club. In all honesty, in any profession or job, an individual with any ambition will want to better himself if he can, both financially and professionally. That's quite natural, and the word loyalty has no relevance whatever. Professional football is no exception to that principle. If SFC refuse to sell at any price, they will simply have disgruntled and unhappy players which is no advantage to anyone. So, let them go - get the best price possible for each of them and let the new manager rebuild the squad with his own choice of playing staff. It is not exactly rocket science is it? If Luke and Adam want away, let us thank them for their contribution to our Club, and wish them well for their futures. Then bring on the new era with a new manager and new signings. I trust Ron to make a big success at SFC and to give us a great future, By the way, there is often talk of the huge debts that Clubs such as MU and Liverpool have, and questions of how do they manage to propose such large bids to make such big offers. Well it's simple really - these Clubs are in a financial status where they can service those debts quite easily - the smaller Clubs are not so lucky, and have to try and exist within their means. Portsmouth is a typical example of where that principle was ignored (indeed, weren't we there too a few years back?).[/p][/quote]Rooney handed in a transfer request at Man Utd, Gerrard handed in a transfer request at Liverpool Suarez handed in a transfer request at Liverpool All these teams have benefited from turning a transfer request situation around, you shouldn't give in so easily![/p][/quote]Yes, benefited by having to pay megabucks to keep them, sometimes calling their bluff can be beneficial too. No player should be more important than the Club in the long run.[/p][/quote]Yes paying mega bucks but their teams would have been at least 5 places lower in the league last season without them, that would also cost mega bucks and CL spots (not Rooney ;). You don't just sell every player who hands in a request regardless - at least top teams don't. The post above says - Why the hell would any want to watch players on the pitch who don't want to play for the club !? Well ask any Liverpool fan if they want to see Suarez play for them next season? He got them their CL spot![/p][/quote]Good point, and you are correct, the problem is when you make mistakes like Osvaldo, makes you think twice, hope lessons were learned. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

3:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid!
Got to laugh Osprey, you were claiming not to be a site policeman about five minutes ago and since then you've read someone their rights and riffled through someone's briefs, sorry, posts.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid![/p][/quote]Got to laugh Osprey, you were claiming not to be a site policeman about five minutes ago and since then you've read someone their rights and riffled through someone's briefs, sorry, posts. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

3:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.[/p][/quote]Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

3:03pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

SaintJD wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
Was this site/forum actually around five years ago? And can I have some jam please.
You certainly may JD,but I'm reporting Steekemglue to Mrs Milf, our branch chairperson.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.[/p][/quote]Was this site/forum actually around five years ago? And can I have some jam please.[/p][/quote]You certainly may JD,but I'm reporting Steekemglue to Mrs Milf, our branch chairperson. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

3:03pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintJD wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid!
Got to laugh Osprey, you were claiming not to be a site policeman about five minutes ago and since then you've read someone their rights and riffled through someone's briefs, sorry, posts.
I do my best, now move along please, nothing to see here.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I checked some of you posts way back from 2010 and you have no room to talk I am afraid![/p][/quote]Got to laugh Osprey, you were claiming not to be a site policeman about five minutes ago and since then you've read someone their rights and riffled through someone's briefs, sorry, posts.[/p][/quote]I do my best, now move along please, nothing to see here. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

3:18pm Tue 24 Jun 14

warrens 76 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Trouble with taking the money is that everyone then knows you have money.hence they raise their prices to you.we end up paying way over the odds.if they have offered 34mil then we should take and go get cresswell from ipswich.have you seen his stats? Cresswell and targett fighting for left back spot would be me.also tell osvaldo he is going nowhere,then stick him in the u21s until he realises his only way out is to perform so well that another club want to buy him.might get a good season out of him. Also some positive statements along the lines of " I am staying" from a few key players would work wonders.
quite right, quite right..
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Trouble with taking the money is that everyone then knows you have money.hence they raise their prices to you.we end up paying way over the odds.if they have offered 34mil then we should take and go get cresswell from ipswich.have you seen his stats? Cresswell and targett fighting for left back spot would be me.also tell osvaldo he is going nowhere,then stick him in the u21s until he realises his only way out is to perform so well that another club want to buy him.might get a good season out of him. Also some positive statements along the lines of " I am staying" from a few key players would work wonders.[/p][/quote]quite right, quite right.. warrens 76
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Thankyounicola says...

Don't sell. He'll easily be worth 60 million in 3-4 years and would have served us well. He's similar to Bale. Just matter of time.
Don't sell. He'll easily be worth 60 million in 3-4 years and would have served us well. He's similar to Bale. Just matter of time. Thankyounicola
  • Score: 1

3:27pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Outside of the Box says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?
To charge that for him is daylight robbery so maybe it is criminal
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Report by By Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter. Am I missing something here?[/p][/quote]To charge that for him is daylight robbery so maybe it is criminal Outside of the Box
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Folkestone Saint says...

PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say
Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...
Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc
The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572.

You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself?

Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid?

Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself?

And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.
So you've had time to look up the cost now, shame you didn't know the name of the end you watch them from, your a fake, deal with it plastic
[quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say[/p][/quote]Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...[/p][/quote]Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc[/p][/quote]The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572. You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself? Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid? Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself? And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.[/p][/quote]So you've had time to look up the cost now, shame you didn't know the name of the end you watch them from, your a fake, deal with it plastic Folkestone Saint
  • Score: 0

3:29pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too?
Less of the cheek,I haven't forgiven you yet for singing it out of tune,during our recent centenary celebrations at the Masonic hall.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.[/p][/quote]Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too?[/p][/quote]Less of the cheek,I haven't forgiven you yet for singing it out of tune,during our recent centenary celebrations at the Masonic hall. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

3:50pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.
Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too?
Less of the cheek,I haven't forgiven you yet for singing it out of tune,during our recent centenary celebrations at the Masonic hall.
As I have said before if I started singing OWTS at St Marys I would clear the Stadium in minutes, better than any fire alarm.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]I only come on here in between boiling jam,and turning out French fondant fancies and Victoria sponges.[/p][/quote]Bet you know every word of the lyrics of Jerusalem too?[/p][/quote]Less of the cheek,I haven't forgiven you yet for singing it out of tune,during our recent centenary celebrations at the Masonic hall.[/p][/quote]As I have said before if I started singing OWTS at St Marys I would clear the Stadium in minutes, better than any fire alarm. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

3:57pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
PremierLeagueWanker wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.
And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say
Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...
Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc
The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572.

You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself?

Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid?

Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself?

And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.
So you've had time to look up the cost now, shame you didn't know the name of the end you watch them from, your a fake, deal with it plastic
He has either got a good discount or has been rooked proper.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PremierLeagueWanker[/bold] wrote: I love it when saints fans call us crap or "Manure" yet they are forgeting even after our worst season in many years we still finished above them during one of their best.[/p][/quote]And how much more did you spend to finish just one place above us, hardly a proud moment for you is it, don't get me wrong i like to watch Man u, I just can't stand people like you who have no connection to the club and then try to make yourselves look all superior over true supporters of their LOCAL clubs. p.s. I did used to live in Hampshire so there is no irony in what I say[/p][/quote]Please feel free to tell me how i've tried to make myself look superior by simply defending my club and defending myself by stating how i support them...[/p][/quote]Your first quote and your log-in for starters, that and the fact you don't know how much YOUR season ticket costs makes you so typical of the so called manure supporters, I went to Old trafford once and have seen them at the Dell and St marys which I get the feeling you havent, have you lfc[/p][/quote]The season ticket I HAVE cost me £572. You have seen them 3 times? What in the world would that have to do with your point if you aren't a United supporter yourself? Considering I have seen them at St Mary's and Old Trafford more than 3 times at each your point isn't really valid? Why would my log in be an attempt at making me look superior? It's actually supposed to do the opposite as i'm insulting myself? And my first quote? You mean after people were slating the team and club i support? I would be ashamed calling myself a supporter not defending them.[/p][/quote]So you've had time to look up the cost now, shame you didn't know the name of the end you watch them from, your a fake, deal with it plastic[/p][/quote]He has either got a good discount or has been rooked proper. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:06pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH says...

I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them. SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
  • Score: 1

4:08pm Tue 24 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?
No I spend my day looking for new and exciting internet ****, that's how I stumbled on this site! I wont bore you with the words i googled to get here but it had something to do with Aholes and big Richards! surprise surprise it pointed me here! ;0)

in reality I **** (whoops) on here to talk about saints and have a laugh and joke with fellow fans of a like mind. occasionally someone pops up with a holier than thou attitude and accuses posters of wasting their days on here, whilst spending their day on here! some of these posters think they are better than everyone else and that their opinion is the only one that counts and it shouldn't be argued with. these posters cant debate their points and cant see others point of view so they name call and belittle others. which category do you fall into?
there is a simple solution to your woes, and this goes for fake fans of other clubs who don't like the club they are pretending to support being laughed at, if you don't like whats on this site or what the majority of sensible poster write, then don't come on here. there are plenty of other sites that would welcome you with open arms!

confucious.com has an extensive list of these sites. my favourite though is `Ireallysupportpoope
ybutpretendtolikeoth
erteamsbecauseI`m aworthlesswum.co.uk as well as `mrswilsonsteapot` where you can get some good inside info on the club. `seasonticketpricesf
orthosewhodontknowwh
attheirpretendticket
costsorthenameofthes
tanditsin`.org
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: in 5 years this site has changed very little.... its still like a bad day the womens institute.... haven't some of you that spend all day **** got anything else to do !?[/p][/quote]No I spend my day looking for new and exciting internet ****, that's how I stumbled on this site! I wont bore you with the words i googled to get here but it had something to do with Aholes and big Richards! surprise surprise it pointed me here! ;0) in reality I **** (whoops) on here to talk about saints and have a laugh and joke with fellow fans of a like mind. occasionally someone pops up with a holier than thou attitude and accuses posters of wasting their days on here, whilst spending their day on here! some of these posters think they are better than everyone else and that their opinion is the only one that counts and it shouldn't be argued with. these posters cant debate their points and cant see others point of view so they name call and belittle others. which category do you fall into? there is a simple solution to your woes, and this goes for fake fans of other clubs who don't like the club they are pretending to support being laughed at, if you don't like whats on this site or what the majority of sensible poster write, then don't come on here. there are plenty of other sites that would welcome you with open arms! confucious.com has an extensive list of these sites. my favourite though is `Ireallysupportpoope ybutpretendtolikeoth erteamsbecauseI`m aworthlesswum.co.uk as well as `mrswilsonsteapot` where you can get some good inside info on the club. `seasonticketpricesf orthosewhodontknowwh attheirpretendticket costsorthenameofthes tanditsin`.org de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 1

4:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
When he (LS) plays a blinder tonight and weighs in with two assists for Lallana and SRL (when he comes on for the second half) the bid will need to be increased nearer the £40M mark or I can see someone like PSG, Man City or Chelsea taking an interest. Which would be nice to snub Manure.
Meanwhile......The skunts have shelled out £50 on some cheap blue paint to upgrade the home changing room.
COYR FOADP
A good post. Any world cup goals would help get the price up. COYR
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: When he (LS) plays a blinder tonight and weighs in with two assists for Lallana and SRL (when he comes on for the second half) the bid will need to be increased nearer the £40M mark or I can see someone like PSG, Man City or Chelsea taking an interest. Which would be nice to snub Manure. Meanwhile......The skunts have shelled out £50 on some cheap blue paint to upgrade the home changing room. COYR FOADP[/p][/quote]A good post. Any world cup goals would help get the price up. COYR SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
  • Score: 0

4:31pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Winsaint wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
notaclue wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.
I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.
We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue!
Have you got a screw loose?
Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.
I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.
Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.
x
Are you cross with me?
:-)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Winsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: What gets me about some people on here is that they blame the players for wanting to leave saying that they have no loyalty and they just want more money. Then a big bid comes in and the fans show no loyalty to the players, they say the money is too good to turn down and the player should go. Am I the only one that wants Luke to stay? Don't sell our best players, Spurs squandered £100m and got very little back from it. A Champions League spot should be our aim for next season and we will never do it if we sell players like Luke. Keep our squad and buy Benteke or Lukaku and push on from last season. We have to stop selling our best players and let our future young stars know that they can get everything they dream of by staying at Southampton and being in the CL. Liverpool will sink like a stone if Suarez leaves them.[/p][/quote]I want him to stay. I want my club to win things and the money from any sales doesn't come to me. Despite having twenty people tracking every player in Europe we still managed to spend £40m on Osvaldo, Ramirez and Wanyama so our track record on getting maximum bang for our bucks is not great either.[/p][/quote]We will win things Seed - so long as we keep the Tories in power. It's quite remarkable what a mess Saints fell into under the Labour government, but ever since Cameron became PM - well, it's been non stop success. They've turned things round and got us out of the quagmire the socialists sunk us into. I never cease to be amazed how the numerous 'levelling down' Co-Op shopping Bolshies on here - with their noses stuck firmly up virtue's @rse - fail to see it. For Red success - vote Blue![/p][/quote]Have you got a screw loose?[/p][/quote]Oh dear new to forum re we, for those who visit regularly often smile at the cooments and don't take somethings as seriously as our football. Please be aware we do NOT need to sale and will only do so if it is right for us to do so.[/p][/quote]I am quite new to the forum, yes, and thanks for the heads up about not needing to sell unless the price is right, I would never have worked that out. Thanks for the condescension too, makes me feel all warm inside. Now go and f*ck yourself.[/p][/quote]Not a good response, I think you have misunderstood what people are trying to tell you, no matter, you have still breached the rules of the site,"Do not post anything that is false, abusive or malicious", it is clear enough. I shouldn't need to keep pointing this, out as I get accused of being some sort of site policeman, I am not, I just want to see a site with sensible, argumentative and erudite messages, not abuse just because a response doesn't suit you. Continue and you will get booted off and lose the ability to put your arguments, we all lose.[/p][/quote]x[/p][/quote]Are you cross with me?[/p][/quote]:-) Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
[quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

4:50pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SaintJD says...

This is old news anyway. The Sun is reporting that Man Utd have missed out on signing Luke Shaw.

Word is that he's agreed personal terms with Carla Howe. Done deal subject to a medical.

Apparently Luke was going to withdraw because his agent wanted to get involved but it's all sorted now.
This is old news anyway. The Sun is reporting that Man Utd have missed out on signing Luke Shaw. Word is that he's agreed personal terms with Carla Howe. Done deal subject to a medical. Apparently Luke was going to withdraw because his agent wanted to get involved but it's all sorted now. SaintJD
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh. SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
  • Score: -4

5:11pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH says...

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
I think they call it squad rotation. :-)
[quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]I think they call it squad rotation. :-) SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
  • Score: -2

5:26pm Tue 24 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.
[quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

The Inbetweener says...

I do believe that Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter is married to Gordon Simpson, Sports Reporter so this was probably dreamed up at home sitting on the sofa last night.
I do believe that Melanie Adams, Crime Reporter is married to Gordon Simpson, Sports Reporter so this was probably dreamed up at home sitting on the sofa last night. The Inbetweener
  • Score: 0

6:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks. SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH
  • Score: 0

7:10pm Wed 25 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks.
Sorry you are mistaken, I use one user name now, check with the Echo if you don't believe me, and in your case the last statement fits you to a tee.
[quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks.[/p][/quote]Sorry you are mistaken, I use one user name now, check with the Echo if you don't believe me, and in your case the last statement fits you to a tee. OSPREYSAINT
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7:23pm Wed 25 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks.
Sorry you are mistaken, I use one user name now, check with the Echo if you don't believe me, and in your case the last statement fits you to a tee.
Some of you will remember that the only other time I used a different sign-on was when someone was using my sign on name with an extra full stop, to post false messages. I can assure you that I don't need any other sign-ons, I post enough on my original one, no need for any others.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]When you get something wrong you sure make a good job of it, I promise you I use no other sign-on in these threads, tried it once with disastrous results, not clever enough to work out what I had posted with the other sign-ons, which were SAINTDON13 which I use on other sites such as Not606, and the other one was nemesisaint which I ditched a long time ago. Any others that you might think are me, simply are not, they just might think the same as me, but I would think it obvious from the style that they aren't me. How many sign-ons do you use may I ask, it isn't a crime to my knowledge so I won't criticise you if you do spread it about, but it helps responses if you know, who is really who, some give the game away with trademark use of punctuation and spelling, doesn't take a genius to work out some of them. PRIDE OF THE SOUTH incidentally isn't one of ours, it is usually a skate epithet.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of other posters who also believe the same. New usernames all of a sudden appearing when you post, saying the same stuff as you. These posters then go silent for weeks and only appear when you need them to. The perfect example being when MoPo left. One day you appeared back, bringing with you a whole load of new posters, saying the same stuff as you. It's too obvious for words, which is why you are fooling no one. Plus you have been caught out numerous times when you have forgot to log out one username for your own. The cherry on the cake is that you still plead your innocence. You must have us all pegged as being thick as two short planks.[/p][/quote]Sorry you are mistaken, I use one user name now, check with the Echo if you don't believe me, and in your case the last statement fits you to a tee.[/p][/quote]Some of you will remember that the only other time I used a different sign-on was when someone was using my sign on name with an extra full stop, to post false messages. I can assure you that I don't need any other sign-ons, I post enough on my original one, no need for any others. OSPREYSAINT
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9:44am Thu 26 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH wrote:
I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.
On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured.
Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.
It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.
I think they call it squad rotation. :-)
Quick question, why have you only posted on this one thread recently? Is it because you actually use a different sign on in other threads, surely not the pot calling the kettle black I hope?
[quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC PRIDE OF THE SOUTH[/bold] wrote: I don't want us to lose Shaw but the latest price is not bad. I still think we could rinse more out of them.[/p][/quote]On another thread it quotes :- On the subject of Luke Shaw, the Daily Echo understands that despite Manchester United’s interest in the 18-year-old left back they have not at this time tabled a £34m for the youngster as has been rumoured. Come off it, it was reported in The Times, it must be true.[/p][/quote]It's nice to see you posting with your Ospreysaint login. Giving your thirty odd other logins a rest huh.[/p][/quote]I think they call it squad rotation. :-)[/p][/quote]Quick question, why have you only posted on this one thread recently? Is it because you actually use a different sign on in other threads, surely not the pot calling the kettle black I hope? OSPREYSAINT
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