Koeman set to get £100m war chest

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Ronald Koeman officially starts work at Saints next week with a potential £100m war chest at his disposal.

The Dutch footballing legend reports for duty at the new look Staplewood training ground on Monday as his squad start preparations for the new Premier League season.

He is facing a major rebuilding job after the club’s transfer business of the last couple of days.

Many of last year’s star players under Mauricio Pochettino have left or are leaving, but it leaves Koeman, pictured, with an enviable transfer budget with which to make his mark.

Saints executive director Les Reed, who is handling all transfer matters at board level, has guaranteed fans that any funds generated by player sales will be reinvested into the squad.

That will be good news for Koeman.

With the sales of Rickie Lambert, Luke Shaw and Adam Lallana generating more than £50m between them – even allowing for Bournemouth’s 25 per cent sell-on clause for Lallana which nets them about £6.25m - he has a strong base to start with.

On top of that Dejan Lovren is also expected to be sold, with figures of up to £15m-£20m being mentioned, which doesn’t seem totally unrealistic when you consider Saints paid £8.5m for him last summer.

The club are thought to have earmarked money for player investment in their budget anyway which can then be added to the figures.

On top of that there is every chance that Dani Osvaldo could be moved on this summer, despite Juventus deciding not to take up their option to sign him.Gaston Ramirez has also been heavily linked with a move back to Italy, all of which could comfortably lead to a £100m pot to spend.

Koeman will need those kind of spending levels though to stabilise things at Saints.

It will be a very different side taking to the pitch at Anfield on the opening day of the season than the one that finished the last campaign.The general consensus was that Saints needed further players anyway to beef up the size of their squad a little as they had been caught out slightly when injuries kicked in.

With a host of players leaving they are set to need even more players.

Key for Koeman will be not only to recruit the right players for the right price, but to try and start spending fairly swiftly.

Though some moves could be held up because of players on World Cup duty, with the squad gathering again he will want the players to have as long as possible to gel in pre-season rather than trying to hit the ground running at the start of the new campaign.

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2:13pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam?

After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again.

Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton!
Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam? After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again. Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 32

2:14pm Sat 28 Jun 14

richard903 says...

Please stop reporting and regurgitating the same storys just wait until there is some thing proper and happy to say
Please stop reporting and regurgitating the same storys just wait until there is some thing proper and happy to say richard903
  • Score: 5

2:15pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St. Teach says...

I look forward to seeing who he buys. I don't expect to see World Class stars coming in, but rather good god professionals. We're no longer working under the illusion that we are top four material, but aiming for steady top tens. That's fine by me. I remember the old days and the yearly dog fight. I would rather a comfortable mid table team that genuinely challenged for cups than a team that risked everything for top 4.

Also, good luck to Koeman. He will inherit a weaker side, but he will build his own. Poch inherited probably the best side we've ever had - filled with top 4 quality players (they must be, that's where we're selling them) - and yet only got us to eighth. By that standard, I have to mark his Saints spell as underwhelming.
I look forward to seeing who he buys. I don't expect to see World Class stars coming in, but rather good god professionals. We're no longer working under the illusion that we are top four material, but aiming for steady top tens. That's fine by me. I remember the old days and the yearly dog fight. I would rather a comfortable mid table team that genuinely challenged for cups than a team that risked everything for top 4. Also, good luck to Koeman. He will inherit a weaker side, but he will build his own. Poch inherited probably the best side we've ever had - filled with top 4 quality players (they must be, that's where we're selling them) - and yet only got us to eighth. By that standard, I have to mark his Saints spell as underwhelming. St. Teach
  • Score: 53

2:16pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Sally Hamilton Original says...

Well if the exodus that looks like it is going to happen, happens, he is going to need every penny! We already needed 3 players, we could end up doing a Sunderland and having to get nearly 9 or 10...if we are to maintain our momentum from last year!!!
Well if the exodus that looks like it is going to happen, happens, he is going to need every penny! We already needed 3 players, we could end up doing a Sunderland and having to get nearly 9 or 10...if we are to maintain our momentum from last year!!! Sally Hamilton Original
  • Score: 15

2:22pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

THERE have been different POSTS about JUDAS.

REMEMBER there is only ONE JUDAS - MP.

The rest are MERCENARIES.

THERE IS NO RESPECT FOR THEM

F**K THE WANTAWAY PLAYERS. COYR
THERE have been different POSTS about JUDAS. REMEMBER there is only ONE JUDAS - MP. The rest are MERCENARIES. THERE IS NO RESPECT FOR THEM F**K THE WANTAWAY PLAYERS. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 39

2:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN.

Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY.

NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME.

COYR
NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 19

2:27pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

LOVREN IS CLASS - and should NOT BE SOLD

If he goes to BARCA - his CURRENT VALUATION is 30 MILLION.

COYR
LOVREN IS CLASS - and should NOT BE SOLD If he goes to BARCA - his CURRENT VALUATION is 30 MILLION. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 27

2:32pm Sat 28 Jun 14

itsnotjustice says...

Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others..

also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do.

id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.
Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others.. also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do. id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 14

2:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago bullsbags
  • Score: 14

2:37pm Sat 28 Jun 14

7saint7 says...

Koeman can build a hell of a good team with 100mill.
But it could take time for player to gel . unless a few play together already.
fingers crossed we end up better & stronger team than last year .
Also JWP is still only 21 & was only keeped out of the first team by lalla as there alot a like,
I think JWP could end up as good or even a better player than lalla.
Koeman can build a hell of a good team with 100mill. But it could take time for player to gel . unless a few play together already. fingers crossed we end up better & stronger team than last year . Also JWP is still only 21 & was only keeped out of the first team by lalla as there alot a like, I think JWP could end up as good or even a better player than lalla. 7saint7
  • Score: 36

2:38pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

I'm glad that we're having a clear-out.
MoPo and the players leaving this summer
are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good
riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a
shift.

Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters.
I'm glad that we're having a clear-out. MoPo and the players leaving this summer are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a shift. Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 26

2:39pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jon Forte says...

What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any!
What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any! Jon Forte
  • Score: -2

2:39pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Add Charlie Austin to that list
Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Add Charlie Austin to that list Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is bullsbags
  • Score: -25

2:41pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius says...

When a new manager comes in to an established and stable team there is always trouble - Paul sturrock and moyes prove this point! Certain players who are way way to big for their boots can rally the squad against the boss and cause disarray. In my opinion the break down of the squad by removing self obsessed and self proclaimed big time players is essential in the success of a new manager at the helm, take out the bad apples and sell them to a foolish team who will pay 3 times what they are worth and let the manager bring in his lads creating a hybrid team with a newly evolving hierarchy with the manager sat at the top where he belongs! Call me old fashioned but when has a spring clean and a fresh start ever been considered a bad thing, let's get some fresh blood in the team, let the manager create his vision to the full and support the saints! Coyr - like if you agree?!
When a new manager comes in to an established and stable team there is always trouble - Paul sturrock and moyes prove this point! Certain players who are way way to big for their boots can rally the squad against the boss and cause disarray. In my opinion the break down of the squad by removing self obsessed and self proclaimed big time players is essential in the success of a new manager at the helm, take out the bad apples and sell them to a foolish team who will pay 3 times what they are worth and let the manager bring in his lads creating a hybrid team with a newly evolving hierarchy with the manager sat at the top where he belongs! Call me old fashioned but when has a spring clean and a fresh start ever been considered a bad thing, let's get some fresh blood in the team, let the manager create his vision to the full and support the saints! Coyr - like if you agree?! Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius
  • Score: 153

2:41pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

richard903 wrote:
Please stop reporting and regurgitating the same storys just wait until there is some thing proper and happy to say
Behave
It makes a change to speculate on who might be coming in rather than who's going yo be the next to jump ship
[quote][p][bold]richard903[/bold] wrote: Please stop reporting and regurgitating the same storys just wait until there is some thing proper and happy to say[/p][/quote]Behave It makes a change to speculate on who might be coming in rather than who's going yo be the next to jump ship bullsbags
  • Score: 9

2:43pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

Jon Forte wrote:
What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any!
Sell him
He never did it for us and has done sod all in Italy
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any![/p][/quote]Sell him He never did it for us and has done sod all in Italy bullsbags
  • Score: 20

2:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

up saints says...

Jon Forte wrote:
What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any!
my opinion is osvaldo should not put on a southampton shirt again if we can't sell them drop him off at botley road tip
[quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any![/p][/quote]my opinion is osvaldo should not put on a southampton shirt again if we can't sell them drop him off at botley road tip up saints
  • Score: 19

3:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team.

'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.
Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team. 'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -7

3:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team.

'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.
Come on seed
Apparently we are in for some new floodlights so we could sell the old ones to Pompey
Hang on a minute they weigh a bit so the corrugated tin roof would collapse
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team. 'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.[/p][/quote]Come on seed Apparently we are in for some new floodlights so we could sell the old ones to Pompey Hang on a minute they weigh a bit so the corrugated tin roof would collapse bullsbags
  • Score: 32

3:14pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

bullsbags wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team.

'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.
Come on seed
Apparently we are in for some new floodlights so we could sell the old ones to Pompey
Hang on a minute they weigh a bit so the corrugated tin roof would collapse
I think we should give them to then free, provided they agree to install them on match day.

Do you remember when we got relegated from the Prem and Lowe waffled on in the programme about having the 2nd best pitch in the Prem, a radio station and improved catering?
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team. 'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.[/p][/quote]Come on seed Apparently we are in for some new floodlights so we could sell the old ones to Pompey Hang on a minute they weigh a bit so the corrugated tin roof would collapse[/p][/quote]I think we should give them to then free, provided they agree to install them on match day. Do you remember when we got relegated from the Prem and Lowe waffled on in the programme about having the 2nd best pitch in the Prem, a radio station and improved catering? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

3:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 18

3:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Coarse I don't I'm only 5 bullsbags
  • Score: -2

3:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

Ron Koeman has a good name but I know little about him.

However, he has contacts and a considerable budget, so I am confident - have to be!

I am now not bothered about Shaw and Lallana as they have gone so - end of? But I hope RK wants to keep Lovren and Speiderman. Not just because they are 2 good players, but 3 leaving is enough. Have to think of team cohesion and team spirit and too many new faces might be difficult.

So, I am going to try and calm down and watch developments from next Monday. We must now be getting very close to when we see new signings and this usually brings excitement and anticipation.

Finally, I saw a photo of Luke Shaw this morning in his ManUre shirt. Felt quite ill - hate them!
Ron Koeman has a good name but I know little about him. However, he has contacts and a considerable budget, so I am confident - have to be! I am now not bothered about Shaw and Lallana as they have gone so - end of? But I hope RK wants to keep Lovren and Speiderman. Not just because they are 2 good players, but 3 leaving is enough. Have to think of team cohesion and team spirit and too many new faces might be difficult. So, I am going to try and calm down and watch developments from next Monday. We must now be getting very close to when we see new signings and this usually brings excitement and anticipation. Finally, I saw a photo of Luke Shaw this morning in his ManUre shirt. Felt quite ill - hate them! saintbobby
  • Score: 33

3:27pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

bullsbags wrote:
Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age!
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Coarse I don't I'm only 5[/p][/quote]Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

3:28pm Sat 28 Jun 14

midlandsaint says...

Hopefully the same people who brought us MoPo and Koeman have also been busy analysing lots of players and have already built up a large database of potential targets suitable for Southampton. Hopefully thats been done for every position and a playing style that fits with The Southampton Way. Hopefully amongst that lots theres weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed.

Hopefully too our analysts arent simply running filters on Football Manager, though thinking further it that might not be a bad thing if they were.
Hopefully the same people who brought us MoPo and Koeman have also been busy analysing lots of players and have already built up a large database of potential targets suitable for Southampton. Hopefully thats been done for every position and a playing style that fits with The Southampton Way. Hopefully amongst that lots theres weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed. Hopefully too our analysts arent simply running filters on Football Manager, though thinking further it that might not be a bad thing if they were. midlandsaint
  • Score: 11

3:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

SaintMatt97 says...

Saints in two/three years:
Marshal
Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker
Cork/wan Spiderlin
JWP(will be class)
J-Rod Sims
Sammy G
Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?
Saints in two/three years: Marshal Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker Cork/wan Spiderlin JWP(will be class) J-Rod Sims Sammy G Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts? SaintMatt97
  • Score: -15

3:30pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up. Confucious
  • Score: 24

3:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

midlandsaint says...

midlandsaint wrote:
Hopefully the same people who brought us MoPo and Koeman have also been busy analysing lots of players and have already built up a large database of potential targets suitable for Southampton. Hopefully thats been done for every position and a playing style that fits with The Southampton Way. Hopefully amongst that lots theres weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed.

Hopefully too our analysts arent simply running filters on Football Manager, though thinking further it that might not be a bad thing if they were.
Arse.

*Hopefully amongst that lot weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed.
[quote][p][bold]midlandsaint[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the same people who brought us MoPo and Koeman have also been busy analysing lots of players and have already built up a large database of potential targets suitable for Southampton. Hopefully thats been done for every position and a playing style that fits with The Southampton Way. Hopefully amongst that lots theres weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed. Hopefully too our analysts arent simply running filters on Football Manager, though thinking further it that might not be a bad thing if they were.[/p][/quote]Arse. *Hopefully amongst that lot weve identified some gems that the big boys may have missed. midlandsaint
  • Score: 4

3:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ShanoBrizzy says...

My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.
My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert. ShanoBrizzy
  • Score: -7

3:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

He plays on the right, he plays on the left,
He plays in the goal, he plays in the hole,
He plays at the back, he plays in attack!
That Kelvin Davies is all we've got left!
He plays on the right, he plays on the left, He plays in the goal, he plays in the hole, He plays at the back, he plays in attack! That Kelvin Davies is all we've got left! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 23

3:43pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St.Yorkie says...

Really a double edged sword!
On the one hand Billy Big Boots have gone - all the senior England internationals. Perhaps other WC stars will move on too?
Whatever happens we still have the nucleus of a young English team. Clyne, Chambers, Cork, JWP & JRod. Plus all the academy lads and a few old heads - Boruc, Fonte, Davis. A few new imports (if Dutch) will speak English unlike the Gaston & Osvaldo!k
The truth is we will all turn up at 3pm on a Saturday and watch the club that represents our home town. Win or lose we will still watch!
Someone else has already stated - we don't pay top dollar! Lallana has allegedly got a deal worth £100k/week! What was he on at Southampton £20/25k? Can you blame him? Top money means top players - so we will never hit the heights unless the players really want to buck system?
It is just a shame I thought we had something special at SMS but it appears it's just the same as everywhere else - first sign of success and jump ship to that next it pay packet in the sky! It's the same the world over not just at Southampton.
Rumours abound about Pelle and other players from Holland. Nowhere near the same level as The Prem but give these lads a chance who knows? I'm just amazed how many players in Brazil are so familiar - no wonder it's the best League in the world!
Southampton are part of it - and next season how often will we hear... Since his move from Southampton...?
Really a double edged sword! On the one hand Billy Big Boots have gone - all the senior England internationals. Perhaps other WC stars will move on too? Whatever happens we still have the nucleus of a young English team. Clyne, Chambers, Cork, JWP & JRod. Plus all the academy lads and a few old heads - Boruc, Fonte, Davis. A few new imports (if Dutch) will speak English unlike the Gaston & Osvaldo!k The truth is we will all turn up at 3pm on a Saturday and watch the club that represents our home town. Win or lose we will still watch! Someone else has already stated - we don't pay top dollar! Lallana has allegedly got a deal worth £100k/week! What was he on at Southampton £20/25k? Can you blame him? Top money means top players - so we will never hit the heights unless the players really want to buck system? It is just a shame I thought we had something special at SMS but it appears it's just the same as everywhere else - first sign of success and jump ship to that next it pay packet in the sky! It's the same the world over not just at Southampton. Rumours abound about Pelle and other players from Holland. Nowhere near the same level as The Prem but give these lads a chance who knows? I'm just amazed how many players in Brazil are so familiar - no wonder it's the best League in the world! Southampton are part of it - and next season how often will we hear... Since his move from Southampton...? St.Yorkie
  • Score: 15

3:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

REMEMBER the LOYALTY CHANT on the Terraces .....

LE TISS LE TISS ...... MATT MATT LE TISS
HE GETS THE BALL ... HE TAKES THE P+SS
MATT MATT LE TISS

There is NO FEAR and NO SURRENDER.

RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY.
REMEMBER the LOYALTY CHANT on the Terraces ..... LE TISS LE TISS ...... MATT MATT LE TISS HE GETS THE BALL ... HE TAKES THE P+SS MATT MATT LE TISS There is NO FEAR and NO SURRENDER. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 12

3:46pm Sat 28 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam?

After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again.

Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton!
when was cork at diverpooh with laloadsamoneyla norge?
I did see video on south today yesterday with laloadsamoneyla and cork together but didn't think that was them at diverpooh, I presumed it was library pictures of them at staplewood. I could be wrong though.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam? After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again. Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton![/p][/quote]when was cork at diverpooh with laloadsamoneyla norge? I did see video on south today yesterday with laloadsamoneyla and cork together but didn't think that was them at diverpooh, I presumed it was library pictures of them at staplewood. I could be wrong though. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 5

3:46pm Sat 28 Jun 14

North Wales Saint says...

ShanoBrizzy wrote:
My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.
J Rod won't be anywhere near fit when we play Liverpool. I think November is more realistic.
[quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.[/p][/quote]J Rod won't be anywhere near fit when we play Liverpool. I think November is more realistic. North Wales Saint
  • Score: 6

3:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age!
Don't worry mate,as a previous poster said let's get rid of all the wanna ways and start again
RK will make some great signings and we will have a team consisting of players who want to play for us
I don't think this is going to be as bad as we think,there is a lot of knee jerk reaction over what has happened over the last couple of days which is understandable
Ther are a a lot of quality players in the World Cup who would love to join this great club
I think by the time I'm 6 we will all be smiling again
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Coarse I don't I'm only 5[/p][/quote]Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age![/p][/quote]Don't worry mate,as a previous poster said let's get rid of all the wanna ways and start again RK will make some great signings and we will have a team consisting of players who want to play for us I don't think this is going to be as bad as we think,there is a lot of knee jerk reaction over what has happened over the last couple of days which is understandable Ther are a a lot of quality players in the World Cup who would love to join this great club I think by the time I'm 6 we will all be smiling again bullsbags
  • Score: 0

3:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Dave Brown says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team.

'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.
Les Reed says we have a three year plan.
His so called plan has been turned upside down during the last week.
I don't think the board has a five day plan at this moment of time as there is likely to be a further four players leave this week.
Do you really know what is going on within the very silent club Les Reed.
You appear to be as successful working for Southampton F.C. as at your previous positions within the football industry.
If you do not believe me fans just Google him and you will see.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Don't clubs normally line up the incoming players before selling, hence the transfer deadline day drama? Is it wise that any club we now approach a) knows we have a big war chest and b) knows we must buy as we don't actually have a team. 'Don't worry we have a new three year plan' said the 62 year old Les Reed. Ralph was unavailable for comment as he was wandering around St Mary's seeing if he could find any other interesting departments he didn't know about.[/p][/quote]Les Reed says we have a three year plan. His so called plan has been turned upside down during the last week. I don't think the board has a five day plan at this moment of time as there is likely to be a further four players leave this week. Do you really know what is going on within the very silent club Les Reed. You appear to be as successful working for Southampton F.C. as at your previous positions within the football industry. If you do not believe me fans just Google him and you will see. Dave Brown
  • Score: -12

3:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius says...

ShanoBrizzy wrote:
My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.
You rate boruc at £10 mil +?! I'm sorry to say that it would be impossible to sign a 10 million pound keeper to sit on the bench behind the mad pole!!! He is good don't get me wrong but if we are signing a keeper with a price tag of 10 million he has to start ahead of boruc who is worth like 2 million at best and let's face it he was free for a reason = smokes 60 a day, drinks like a fish and has a tendency to f things up for no reason! Fine sign a 10 million pound keeper I'm all for it but have to play him at that value!
[quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.[/p][/quote]You rate boruc at £10 mil +?! I'm sorry to say that it would be impossible to sign a 10 million pound keeper to sit on the bench behind the mad pole!!! He is good don't get me wrong but if we are signing a keeper with a price tag of 10 million he has to start ahead of boruc who is worth like 2 million at best and let's face it he was free for a reason = smokes 60 a day, drinks like a fish and has a tendency to f things up for no reason! Fine sign a 10 million pound keeper I'm all for it but have to play him at that value! Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius
  • Score: 8

3:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

bullsbags wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age!
Don't worry mate,as a previous poster said let's get rid of all the wanna ways and start again
RK will make some great signings and we will have a team consisting of players who want to play for us
I don't think this is going to be as bad as we think,there is a lot of knee jerk reaction over what has happened over the last couple of days which is understandable
Ther are a a lot of quality players in the World Cup who would love to join this great club
I think by the time I'm 6 we will all be smiling again
Hope you're right. Other players and Koeman may actually want to win something as well ie League Cup or FA Cup for starters, unlike "Judas and the Wannaways"
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Coarse I don't I'm only 5[/p][/quote]Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age![/p][/quote]Don't worry mate,as a previous poster said let's get rid of all the wanna ways and start again RK will make some great signings and we will have a team consisting of players who want to play for us I don't think this is going to be as bad as we think,there is a lot of knee jerk reaction over what has happened over the last couple of days which is understandable Ther are a a lot of quality players in the World Cup who would love to join this great club I think by the time I'm 6 we will all be smiling again[/p][/quote]Hope you're right. Other players and Koeman may actually want to win something as well ie League Cup or FA Cup for starters, unlike "Judas and the Wannaways" COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 10

3:57pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Saint 2701 says...

SaintMatt97 wrote:
Saints in two/three years:
Marshal
Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker
Cork/wan Spiderlin
JWP(will be class)
J-Rod Sims
Sammy G
Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?
Completely un-ambitious IMO

From what i've seen of Gallagher, he is awful. Plus, if any of our youngsters do end up being any good, clearly they will be sold.

All the board had to do was invest the TV money in 2 - 3 quality signings and stand firm on no players leaving. We had a real opportunity to break into the top 6, now look; laughing stock of the nation yet again, back to the 'little old Southampton, the feeder club' jokes.

Didn't really give a toss about Lambert leaving, was probably going to be a bench player for us next season anyway, Shaw fair enough, replaceable and inevitable. But letting the rest go is just **** right naive, stupid, disgraceful and completely disrespectful to the supporters who have bought into this vision of the Southampton way.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMatt97[/bold] wrote: Saints in two/three years: Marshal Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker Cork/wan Spiderlin JWP(will be class) J-Rod Sims Sammy G Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?[/p][/quote]Completely un-ambitious IMO From what i've seen of Gallagher, he is awful. Plus, if any of our youngsters do end up being any good, clearly they will be sold. All the board had to do was invest the TV money in 2 - 3 quality signings and stand firm on no players leaving. We had a real opportunity to break into the top 6, now look; laughing stock of the nation yet again, back to the 'little old Southampton, the feeder club' jokes. Didn't really give a toss about Lambert leaving, was probably going to be a bench player for us next season anyway, Shaw fair enough, replaceable and inevitable. But letting the rest go is just **** right naive, stupid, disgraceful and completely disrespectful to the supporters who have bought into this vision of the Southampton way. Saint 2701
  • Score: -5

4:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

rossofficial10 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam?

After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again.

Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton!
when was cork at diverpooh with laloadsamoneyla norge?
I did see video on south today yesterday with laloadsamoneyla and cork together but didn't think that was them at diverpooh, I presumed it was library pictures of them at staplewood. I could be wrong though.
also, if you looked at the car next to lallana, it had a prowse number plate. meaning james ward prowse was there. it was defo staplewood for sure.

not liverpool
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam? After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again. Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton![/p][/quote]when was cork at diverpooh with laloadsamoneyla norge? I did see video on south today yesterday with laloadsamoneyla and cork together but didn't think that was them at diverpooh, I presumed it was library pictures of them at staplewood. I could be wrong though.[/p][/quote]also, if you looked at the car next to lallana, it had a prowse number plate. meaning james ward prowse was there. it was defo staplewood for sure. not liverpool rossofficial10
  • Score: -1

4:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

He played for Saints but left
He now plays for scouse sh!te
Adam Lallana
Bet you can't sleep straight in bed at night.
He played for Saints but left He now plays for scouse sh!te Adam Lallana Bet you can't sleep straight in bed at night. J7junctionseven
  • Score: 3

4:06pm Sat 28 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ! NC Fan4Life
  • Score: -2

4:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 16

4:12pm Sat 28 Jun 14

NC Fan4Life says...

itsnotjustice wrote:
Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others..

also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do.

id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.
Sorry, you have got this wrong, Lovren is going and who can blame Morgan and some others wanting out when they sees all the stars are leaving.
[quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others.. also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do. id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you have got this wrong, Lovren is going and who can blame Morgan and some others wanting out when they sees all the stars are leaving. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Sat 28 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

We are going to need £100 million, let's just hope that we can attract the level of talent needed to catapolte us into the top half. It will be a new look team which inevitably will need time to gel. I'm glad we have Koeman though, I'm sure he wouldn't have left a club like Feyenord if he wasn't given assurances about the war chest he would receive. He probably had fair warning about those players wanting to leave as well, which tbh is reassuring in a way because he still took on the job.

I can't think of a better person we could have got for the job. Whoever was responsible for that getting him deserves a big well done! Even if it's Les Reed!
We are going to need £100 million, let's just hope that we can attract the level of talent needed to catapolte us into the top half. It will be a new look team which inevitably will need time to gel. I'm glad we have Koeman though, I'm sure he wouldn't have left a club like Feyenord if he wasn't given assurances about the war chest he would receive. He probably had fair warning about those players wanting to leave as well, which tbh is reassuring in a way because he still took on the job. I can't think of a better person we could have got for the job. Whoever was responsible for that getting him deserves a big well done! Even if it's Les Reed! redandy10
  • Score: 6

4:15pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market!
we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.[/p][/quote]would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market! we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 4

4:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

ShanoBrizzy says...

North Wales Saint wrote:
ShanoBrizzy wrote:
My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.
J Rod won't be anywhere near fit when we play Liverpool. I think November is more realistic.
Fair enough. Gallagher steps in until then then.
[quote][p][bold]North Wales Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShanoBrizzy[/bold] wrote: My team vs Liverpool - Boruc, Clyne, Lovren/£20M CB, Fonte, £10M LB, Ramirez, Spider(C), Cork, £20M W, £20M Striker, J Rod. Res. £10M GK, Chambers, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama, Davis, Gallagher, Yoshida, Taggert.[/p][/quote]J Rod won't be anywhere near fit when we play Liverpool. I think November is more realistic.[/p][/quote]Fair enough. Gallagher steps in until then then. ShanoBrizzy
  • Score: 4

4:20pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market!
we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed!
True! I think he has his sights set a bit higher than Skateville. Maybe the Romsey Advertiser would take him till the season kicks off in August.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.[/p][/quote]would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market! we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed![/p][/quote]True! I think he has his sights set a bit higher than Skateville. Maybe the Romsey Advertiser would take him till the season kicks off in August. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 6

4:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED !
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there.[/p][/quote]Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: -4

4:37pm Sat 28 Jun 14

dockboy says...

What a season this will be.
From the ashes.

COYR
What a season this will be. From the ashes. COYR dockboy
  • Score: 5

4:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

SaintMatt97 says...

So we lost three players and needed a cb, lb, cf and quick winger. So we need 2 cfs, 2 lbs, cb, quick winger and maybe gaston steps up now? Thats 6 players. 100 million into 6 is around 16.5 million per player. Why worry? That sounds like a half decent team if the scouts get the right blokes, not any osvaldo characters of course. Surely taking the over the top money for english players is not so bad. Just invest in the Dutch! Like zakaria Bakkali maybe? Just a thought, trying to get a bit of positivity in here!!!
So we lost three players and needed a cb, lb, cf and quick winger. So we need 2 cfs, 2 lbs, cb, quick winger and maybe gaston steps up now? Thats 6 players. 100 million into 6 is around 16.5 million per player. Why worry? That sounds like a half decent team if the scouts get the right blokes, not any osvaldo characters of course. Surely taking the over the top money for english players is not so bad. Just invest in the Dutch! Like zakaria Bakkali maybe? Just a thought, trying to get a bit of positivity in here!!! SaintMatt97
  • Score: 7

4:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
I get your drift, of course because a lot on here are both puzzled and disappointed.

But we don't want unhappy players turning out. You cannot bet on them giving 100% and we are lucky to have the money to do something.

As I said earlier, we cannot change anything now however hard we moan. I recommend we judge once we have seen who comes in and better still when we see how they fit in. Probably won't happen, but wouldn't it be lovely to see Ossie suddenly thumping the net, instead of a colleague! - if he is still here, that is!
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]I get your drift, of course because a lot on here are both puzzled and disappointed. But we don't want unhappy players turning out. You cannot bet on them giving 100% and we are lucky to have the money to do something. As I said earlier, we cannot change anything now however hard we moan. I recommend we judge once we have seen who comes in and better still when we see how they fit in. Probably won't happen, but wouldn't it be lovely to see Ossie suddenly thumping the net, instead of a colleague! - if he is still here, that is! saintbobby
  • Score: 3

4:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Invidia says...

Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.
Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so. Invidia
  • Score: 4

4:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Smuggins2 says...

When Koeman took over at Feyenoord 3 years ago they were broke and he got them to second in the League by the time he left. He did it mainly by bringing kin kids from their academy. Imagine what he will be able to do with all that cash and the next lot of graduates.
When Koeman took over at Feyenoord 3 years ago they were broke and he got them to second in the League by the time he left. He did it mainly by bringing kin kids from their academy. Imagine what he will be able to do with all that cash and the next lot of graduates. Smuggins2
  • Score: 13

4:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

c u lateron says...

bullsbags wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Add Charlie Austin to that list
Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is
i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Add Charlie Austin to that list Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is[/p][/quote]i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing c u lateron
  • Score: -3

4:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

c u lateron says...

bullsbags wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Add Charlie Austin to that list
Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is
i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Add Charlie Austin to that list Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is[/p][/quote]i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing c u lateron
  • Score: 0

4:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

sparky130a says...

The ones that want to go, let em. It's completely pointless trying to force them to stay. I just hope we can attract the calibre of player we need to equal,if not better our position last season.

No matter what your opinion on the ones going, i think we can all agree it's been a miserable few days, maybe even weeks with the media stirring it up. The board have been disingenuous over all this with the fans and need to put it right, and quickly.

New manager, new start i say.
The ones that want to go, let em. It's completely pointless trying to force them to stay. I just hope we can attract the calibre of player we need to equal,if not better our position last season. No matter what your opinion on the ones going, i think we can all agree it's been a miserable few days, maybe even weeks with the media stirring it up. The board have been disingenuous over all this with the fans and need to put it right, and quickly. New manager, new start i say. sparky130a
  • Score: 4

4:59pm Sat 28 Jun 14

InsideOutCat says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
I'll drive him to Nottarf
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.[/p][/quote]I'll drive him to Nottarf InsideOutCat
  • Score: 5

5:03pm Sat 28 Jun 14

st bevois says...

My heart was telling me that the team that finished last season could develop further with MP at the helm (with one or two additions) and had another 10 points in them on top of last seasons total. That would have put us right in the mix at the top next time around. My head is trying to tell me that Les and the backroom team have looked at performances and stats and have decided that it just wasn't going to happen his time around, especially with the front four. With JayRod injured, SRL on the wane, AL not able to complete 90 mins (in the eyes of the last manager - who was the best that we had had in a long while in most people's eyes ) and neither SD, JC or JWP able to contribute goals from a dominant midfield.

Our midfield and defence statistically were good enough for top 6 possibly top 4 (minus Artur's gaffs and the handicap of ref decisions). It was actually our most loved upfront that didn't convert chances into goals,.or as many goals as they should have. Only JRod improved significantly and he could/should have been nearer the 25 goal mark. SRL still brilliant with touch, control and vision but also missing guilt edged chances, he could have also been 20 goals plus. AL can be exceptional with MOTD goal of the month contenders but also had enough chances to emulate Le God and the brilliant David Armstrong and score 20+ from midfield.
Having said that I don't know what's telling me what now - head or heart?
I confess to being like Alice'sDad - I don't know what's going on. Although there are a few as always on here who are or appear to be damned sure. What I do know, like everyone else is that we have (despite the previous comments) lost an entire frontline unit one way or another. We need to spend the money wisely if we are to maintain or improve. The next 6 weeks will show if we have the ambition or are just another money making folio for the owner, but I got the impression that she was now genuinely enjoying where we were at. Genuine attempts were made to retain both NC and MP. MP didn't just walk out the door In 30 secs. He eventually left after somewhat protracted behind the scenes negotiations for a team that finished significantly above us in terms of points. They turned us over twice. We dominated the bulk of both games, could have had 4 or 5 goals in both matches - they got 3 in each from fewer opportunities; that's clinical finishing which is life at the top of the prem. I'm sure that wasn't lost on MP who started to become frustrated and referred to wastefulness at the end of matches at the end. Maybe he didn't believe that we could move on as fast as he desired. If the press rumours are true, then its notable that the only players of ours that Spurs might really be interested in are the likes of Morgan and Lovren. Money can't guarantee to buy you success, but if the board did do a Spurs and spent he cash - would we be moaning if we finished where they did? Money can't buy you a dressing room spirit either which does concern me and the loss of the English nucleus. We have also spent around £40 million in 2 yrs on a new spine in Lovren, Wan, Ram and Os which has not been a value for money success. It is quite astonishing that our real spine of Fonte, Morgan, Lala and SRL at less than £4 million has taken us from the bottom of L1 to the top half of the Prem. Use the money wisely guys!!!!! I'm in the balance, there has been year on year improvement since the ML takeover - even after his sad early demise. NC has been there since, it remains to be seen where we go from here now that he has gone. Its not long since he was regarded as a "not very nice person" - dictator who told us nothing!! To be sure it is even harder to progress from here. Much more so than from L1 or the Champs so it will be harder for the club to push on - I would still love to see us break the cartel at the top though!!! Nothing is guaranteed in football - certainly not at SFC. At least they haven't sold us shirts and players names, while deals are being done and still to be done. Hopefully some honesty there at least which I am trying to take the positives from (and why try and sale Saints merch while families are daft enough to spend £50 plus on England merch while the fanfare is on) Wonder how many Saints fans bought Lala England shirts - wasn't it the most popular sold? And why appoint RoKo if there is no ambition to at least keep us competing in the Prem?? I'm not necessarily sticking up for the board - I would rather have a "stuff you we don't need your overdraft money, we'll keep our players thank you and any more correspondence from you will be put straight into the shredder by the office junior without further reference." As the old saying goes (I really hope not) Don't **** on us and tell us its raining!! I'm not a happy clapper either but I'm still hoping for some champs!!!! AS FOR THIS SITE - THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST EVER ON THE WORLD WIDE NET TO TRY AND TYPE A COMMENT ON!!! ECHO TAKE NOTE.
My heart was telling me that the team that finished last season could develop further with MP at the helm (with one or two additions) and had another 10 points in them on top of last seasons total. That would have put us right in the mix at the top next time around. My head is trying to tell me that Les and the backroom team have looked at performances and stats and have decided that it just wasn't going to happen his time around, especially with the front four. With JayRod injured, SRL on the wane, AL not able to complete 90 mins (in the eyes of the last manager - who was the best that we had had in a long while in most people's eyes [well since NA or AP anyway]) and neither SD, JC or JWP able to contribute goals from a dominant midfield. Our midfield and defence statistically were good enough for top 6 possibly top 4 (minus Artur's gaffs and the handicap of ref decisions). It was actually our most loved upfront that didn't convert chances into goals,.or as many goals as they should have. Only JRod improved significantly and he could/should have been nearer the 25 goal mark. SRL still brilliant with touch, control and vision but also missing guilt edged chances, he could have also been 20 goals plus. AL can be exceptional with MOTD goal of the month contenders but also had enough chances to emulate Le God and the brilliant David Armstrong and score 20+ from midfield. Having said that I don't know what's telling me what now - head or heart? I confess to being like Alice'sDad - I don't know what's going on. Although there are a few as always on here who are or appear to be damned sure. What I do know, like everyone else is that we have (despite the previous comments) lost an entire frontline unit one way or another. We need to spend the money wisely if we are to maintain or improve. The next 6 weeks will show if we have the ambition or are just another money making folio for the owner, but I got the impression that she was now genuinely enjoying where we were at. Genuine attempts were made to retain both NC and MP. MP didn't just walk out the door In 30 secs. He eventually left after somewhat protracted behind the scenes negotiations for a team that finished significantly above us in terms of points. They turned us over twice. We dominated the bulk of both games, could have had 4 or 5 goals in both matches - they got 3 in each from fewer opportunities; that's clinical finishing which is life at the top of the prem. I'm sure that wasn't lost on MP who started to become frustrated and referred to wastefulness at the end of matches at the end. Maybe he didn't believe that we could move on as fast as he desired. If the press rumours are true, then its notable that the only players of ours that Spurs might really be interested in are the likes of Morgan and Lovren. Money can't guarantee to buy you success, but if the board did do a Spurs and spent he cash - would we be moaning if we finished where they did? Money can't buy you a dressing room spirit either which does concern me and the loss of the English nucleus. We have also spent around £40 million in 2 yrs on a new spine in Lovren, Wan, Ram and Os which has not been a value for money success. It is quite astonishing that our real spine of Fonte, Morgan, Lala and SRL at less than £4 million has taken us from the bottom of L1 to the top half of the Prem. Use the money wisely guys!!!!! I'm in the balance, there has been year on year improvement since the ML takeover - even after his sad early demise. NC has been there since, it remains to be seen where we go from here now that he has gone. Its not long since he was regarded as a "not very nice person" - dictator who told us nothing!! To be sure it is even harder to progress from here. Much more so than from L1 or the Champs so it will be harder for the club to push on - I would still love to see us break the cartel at the top though!!! Nothing is guaranteed in football - certainly not at SFC. At least they haven't sold us shirts and players names, while deals are being done and still to be done. Hopefully some honesty there at least which I am trying to take the positives from (and why try and sale Saints merch while families are daft enough to spend £50 plus on England merch while the fanfare is on) Wonder how many Saints fans bought Lala England shirts - wasn't it the most popular sold? And why appoint RoKo if there is no ambition to at least keep us competing in the Prem?? I'm not necessarily sticking up for the board - I would rather have a "stuff you we don't need your overdraft money, we'll keep our players thank you and any more correspondence from you will be put straight into the shredder by the office junior without further reference." As the old saying goes (I really hope not) Don't **** on us and tell us its raining!! I'm not a happy clapper either but I'm still hoping for some champs!!!! AS FOR THIS SITE - THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST EVER ON THE WORLD WIDE NET TO TRY AND TYPE A COMMENT ON!!! ECHO TAKE NOTE. st bevois
  • Score: 27

5:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Harold K Steptoe says...

100m won't go far with 8 or 9 want away players to replace.
100m won't go far with 8 or 9 want away players to replace. Harold K Steptoe
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintlysoul says...

At the end of last season I posted on here that Shaw and Lallana were going. I got a number of thumbs down and (as usual) negative comments. I observed that I couldn't understand all the praise for Shaw and Lallana at the end of the season on the last day when they were off and had wanted to leave for a long time. MP had lost interest by the end of the season not having trained with the squad for about 5 weeks. Again I was shouted down. The reality in this game is as a lot of posters have observed any young or good player wants to play for a big club where they will get big money and potential success winning medals - it's not rocket science. What is disappointing is the false hope that Les Reed gave the fans in what he said at the end of last season.

Whatever we say or do we can't change what's happened - the club still exists the team has fixtures to play, we've a new manager, and loyal passionate fans. Let's all get behind the club, the new manager and the players and wish them all we'll for the season ahead!
At the end of last season I posted on here that Shaw and Lallana were going. I got a number of thumbs down and (as usual) negative comments. I observed that I couldn't understand all the praise for Shaw and Lallana at the end of the season on the last day when they were off and had wanted to leave for a long time. MP had lost interest by the end of the season not having trained with the squad for about 5 weeks. Again I was shouted down. The reality in this game is as a lot of posters have observed any young or good player wants to play for a big club where they will get big money and potential success winning medals - it's not rocket science. What is disappointing is the false hope that Les Reed gave the fans in what he said at the end of last season. Whatever we say or do we can't change what's happened - the club still exists the team has fixtures to play, we've a new manager, and loyal passionate fans. Let's all get behind the club, the new manager and the players and wish them all we'll for the season ahead! saintlysoul
  • Score: 10

5:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

bullsbags says...

c u lateron wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Add Charlie Austin to that list
Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is
i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing
Plenty of thumbs down when I mentioned Charlie Austin ,I don't know why
[quote][p][bold]c u lateron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Add Charlie Austin to that list Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is[/p][/quote]i spoke to Dave Merrington on the his radio show when we were in the lower leagues, i said tell them to have a look at Charlie Austin, he was at Poole Town then, banging them in every week, he said yes ive seen him a few times, he's a good prospect, he went to Swindon Lol, now he's under Harrys wing[/p][/quote]Plenty of thumbs down when I mentioned Charlie Austin ,I don't know why bullsbags
  • Score: -4

5:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

costa gaz says...

Saints executive director Les Reed, who is handling all transfer matters at board level, has guaranteed fans that any funds generated by player sales will be reinvested into the squad.


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Uruguay striker Luis Suarez, who was banned from the World Cup for biting, said he lost his balance and accidentally fell face first into Italy’s Giorgio Chiellini.


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Your cheque is in the post and i promise i wont come...............
Saints executive director Les Reed, who is handling all transfer matters at board level, has guaranteed fans that any funds generated by player sales will be reinvested into the squad. ******************** ******************** ******* Uruguay striker Luis Suarez, who was banned from the World Cup for biting, said he lost his balance and accidentally fell face first into Italy’s Giorgio Chiellini. ******************** ******************** ******* Your cheque is in the post and i promise i wont come............... costa gaz
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Mdudz2 says...

It would be nice to raid Cardiff and sign Gary Medal he's looked pretty decent at the World Cup. As they got relegated I'm sure he has a release clause of some kind, just a thought...
It would be nice to raid Cardiff and sign Gary Medal he's looked pretty decent at the World Cup. As they got relegated I'm sure he has a release clause of some kind, just a thought... Mdudz2
  • Score: 0

5:21pm Sat 28 Jun 14

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

We will soon SEE , who gets SIGNED ! That will let us know , HOW OUR SEASON will run ...... 6 QUALITY PLAYERS will clear funds of the 100 m bounty , Unless Ronnie is a DEL BOY wheeler dealer C O Y R new and OLD . Looking closely at ALL the new SIGNING s with bated breath
We will soon SEE , who gets SIGNED ! That will let us know , HOW OUR SEASON will run ...... 6 QUALITY PLAYERS will clear funds of the 100 m bounty , Unless Ronnie is a DEL BOY wheeler dealer C O Y R new and OLD . Looking closely at ALL the new SIGNING s with bated breath SPIKEISLANDTRADER
  • Score: 2

5:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Salar says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam?

After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again.

Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton!
I don't know about you Norwegian Saint, but in the last few weeks I feel that I have 'taken one hell of a beating'. And I would like it to stop - now. I seem to have a constant headache.... :(
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: Why was Jack Cork at Liverpools ground with Adam? After the season finished I was sooo happy thinking we have a great core players... we now need to build that again. Would love it if we finished above Spuds, ManU and the new team called Liverhampton![/p][/quote]I don't know about you Norwegian Saint, but in the last few weeks I feel that I have 'taken one hell of a beating'. And I would like it to stop - now. I seem to have a constant headache.... :( Salar
  • Score: 5

5:41pm Sat 28 Jun 14

itsnotjustice says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
itsnotjustice wrote:
Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others..

also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do.

id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.
Sorry, you have got this wrong, Lovren is going and who can blame Morgan and some others wanting out when they sees all the stars are leaving.
how have i got it wrong????

they are totally speculating on the other players leaving.... Im not saying they wont go, but as it stands, there are no bids. and the players they mentioned are still saints players.

its just the echo trying to make a story on a slow day.... like how we "banked 50 mill in a day", when we actually have not. the lallana deal still hasnt gone through so we dont have the money.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others.. also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do. id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.[/p][/quote]Sorry, you have got this wrong, Lovren is going and who can blame Morgan and some others wanting out when they sees all the stars are leaving.[/p][/quote]how have i got it wrong???? they are totally speculating on the other players leaving.... Im not saying they wont go, but as it stands, there are no bids. and the players they mentioned are still saints players. its just the echo trying to make a story on a slow day.... like how we "banked 50 mill in a day", when we actually have not. the lallana deal still hasnt gone through so we dont have the money. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 3

5:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Harold K Steptoe wrote:
100m won't go far with 8 or 9 want away players to replace.
100 MILLION IS A VERY LARGE SUM OF MONEY ......

Ask FAT SAM ....

WE MUST LOOK AT OUR YOIUTH ACADEMY and see who can STEP UP and who can we PROMOTE.

COYR
[quote][p][bold]Harold K Steptoe[/bold] wrote: 100m won't go far with 8 or 9 want away players to replace.[/p][/quote]100 MILLION IS A VERY LARGE SUM OF MONEY ...... Ask FAT SAM .... WE MUST LOOK AT OUR YOIUTH ACADEMY and see who can STEP UP and who can we PROMOTE. COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

5:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

M.U.CS1 says...

Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ! M.U.CS1
  • Score: -18

5:59pm Sat 28 Jun 14

sparky130a says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
"for a club like Southampton"

And what are we "like" pray tell?

Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate....

The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans...
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]"for a club like Southampton" And what are we "like" pray tell? Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate.... The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans... sparky130a
  • Score: 22

6:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

peregrine73 says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Your not wrong,we will all see that selling our nucleus of the team is for a return on the investment. Reality will shortly kick in ,a rebuild of the team ,but can we stay in the premiership?.Its a major dissapointment ,a sham of a board telling us one thing, but cashing in as the opportunity arises.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Your not wrong,we will all see that selling our nucleus of the team is for a return on the investment. Reality will shortly kick in ,a rebuild of the team ,but can we stay in the premiership?.Its a major dissapointment ,a sham of a board telling us one thing, but cashing in as the opportunity arises. peregrine73
  • Score: -2

6:10pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

sparky130a wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
"for a club like Southampton" And what are we "like" pray tell? Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate.... The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans...
TOP FANS ...

A few BAD APPLES and WANTAWAY PLAYERS ...

NO GOOD Tweeting Thanks to the Saints Fans blah blah ..

NOT INTERESTED ...

REWARD LOYALTY COYR
[quote][p][bold]sparky130a[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]"for a club like Southampton" And what are we "like" pray tell? Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate.... The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans...[/p][/quote]TOP FANS ... A few BAD APPLES and WANTAWAY PLAYERS ... NO GOOD Tweeting Thanks to the Saints Fans blah blah .. NOT INTERESTED ... REWARD LOYALTY COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

6:14pm Sat 28 Jun 14

redandy10 says...

Invidia wrote:
Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.
Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem?

Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things.

The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay..........
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem? Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things. The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay.......... redandy10
  • Score: 0

6:16pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Simmo13 says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
I'm glad that we're having a clear-out.
MoPo and the players leaving this summer
are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good
riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a
shift.

Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters.
Don't think top four but certainly mid table
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: I'm glad that we're having a clear-out. MoPo and the players leaving this summer are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a shift. Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters.[/p][/quote]Don't think top four but certainly mid table Simmo13
  • Score: 2

6:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

sparky130a wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
"for a club like Southampton"

And what are we "like" pray tell?

Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate....

The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans...
And we are not stuck up in the cold old North with lots of snow. Nice and warm down here, thank you.
[quote][p][bold]sparky130a[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]"for a club like Southampton" And what are we "like" pray tell? Best academy in the country, state of the art training facilities, the ability to lose a lauded manager and yet still attract a massively respected and successful replacement.Yeah, we're right mugs mate.... The players leaving says far more about them than it does the club or our fans...[/p][/quote]And we are not stuck up in the cold old North with lots of snow. Nice and warm down here, thank you. saintbobby
  • Score: 7

6:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

redandy10 wrote:
Invidia wrote: Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.
Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem? Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things. The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay..........
THE DREAM IS STILL ALIVE - WE FIGHT WITH A TOP MANAGER FOR EUROPEAN FOOTBALL - COYR
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem? Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things. The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay..........[/p][/quote]THE DREAM IS STILL ALIVE - WE FIGHT WITH A TOP MANAGER FOR EUROPEAN FOOTBALL - COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

6:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Simmo13 wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote: I'm glad that we're having a clear-out. MoPo and the players leaving this summer are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a shift. Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters.
Don't think top four but certainly mid table
TOP TEN - TOP EIGHT - TOP SIX - COYR
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: I'm glad that we're having a clear-out. MoPo and the players leaving this summer are, by definition, not loyal to Saints, so good riddance to them. Shaw is the worst example. He's hardly put in a shift. Koeman will rebuild us - I'm confident that we will achieve the top four under him - next year, if not this. SFC is the only thing that matters.[/p][/quote]Don't think top four but certainly mid table[/p][/quote]TOP TEN - TOP EIGHT - TOP SIX - COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

6:24pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

It would be nice to heR from Les Reid whether these players are actually forcing these moves or, is it just Southampton folding under pressure. The idiot from Manure is wrong the reason why so many of our players are wanted is because we had such a good season and they are English. I can't see too many bids in for the Manure also rans like, Smalling, jones etc.
I do however agree with all the real Saints supporters on this site that enough a enough and we need to start bringing in new players ASAP so we have them early for pre season. With RK back next week hopefully we will see some movement.
I do believe that none of this would have happened if Judas hadn't left for Spurs. He has created all this and I personally hope that he gets what he deserves (the sack next season)
It would be nice to heR from Les Reid whether these players are actually forcing these moves or, is it just Southampton folding under pressure. The idiot from Manure is wrong the reason why so many of our players are wanted is because we had such a good season and they are English. I can't see too many bids in for the Manure also rans like, Smalling, jones etc. I do however agree with all the real Saints supporters on this site that enough a enough and we need to start bringing in new players ASAP so we have them early for pre season. With RK back next week hopefully we will see some movement. I do believe that none of this would have happened if Judas hadn't left for Spurs. He has created all this and I personally hope that he gets what he deserves (the sack next season) Chapperall
  • Score: 5

6:25pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Simmo13 says...

M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit
[quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit Simmo13
  • Score: 3

6:29pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
I'll drive him to Nottarf
Cheers, I need a dump.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.[/p][/quote]I'll drive him to Nottarf[/p][/quote]Cheers, I need a dump. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

6:30pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Simmo13 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit
A MANURE PRINCESS ... LOL COYR
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit[/p][/quote]A MANURE PRINCESS ... LOL COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

6:35pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.
Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away?

I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.
would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market!
we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed!
True! I think he has his sights set a bit higher than Skateville. Maybe the Romsey Advertiser would take him till the season kicks off in August.
I just hope it's Saints that's depressing him because I think things will get better onj that front. But if he's depressed because he's got a very small willy, that's altogether more difficult.

I know he rang the Samaritans two weeks ago because afterwards they all spent the next three days having to ring each other.

I did get him to spend a day on Confucious.com as my online 'Agony Uncle' - hoping he'd then realise things aren't so bad in his own life after all. Unfortunately I had to remove him after four hours when he said to one really depressed caller: "Stick a fukcing light bulb up your @rse and it'll brighten you up no end." Then when a caller phoned and said he just needed someone to hold, Seed just left him on hold for 3 hours. Worse still he told a girl who said she wanted to throw herself under a bus that he would send her a timetable. What's more he told a woman with post natal depression, who was having difficulty bonding with her baby, to get a tube of Superglue."

He's just a menace at present.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I'll vote for anything that cheers Seed up.[/p][/quote]Do you get the impression that Seed's angling for a big-money move away? I think we should loan him out to the Skate News site until he cheers up a bit.[/p][/quote]would have to be a free loan though as they wouldn't be able to pay a loan fee and would we still have to cover his wages? even in his current mood seed is a worthy poster and would command a big fee on the open market! we should arrange a meeting with him and les and ralph before any loan is agreed![/p][/quote]True! I think he has his sights set a bit higher than Skateville. Maybe the Romsey Advertiser would take him till the season kicks off in August.[/p][/quote]I just hope it's Saints that's depressing him because I think things will get better onj that front. But if he's depressed because he's got a very small willy, that's altogether more difficult. I know he rang the Samaritans two weeks ago because afterwards they all spent the next three days having to ring each other. I did get him to spend a day on Confucious.com as my online 'Agony Uncle' - hoping he'd then realise things aren't so bad in his own life after all. Unfortunately I had to remove him after four hours when he said to one really depressed caller: "Stick a fukcing light bulb up your @rse and it'll brighten you up no end." Then when a caller phoned and said he just needed someone to hold, Seed just left him on hold for 3 hours. Worse still he told a girl who said she wanted to throw herself under a bus that he would send her a timetable. What's more he told a woman with post natal depression, who was having difficulty bonding with her baby, to get a tube of Superglue." He's just a menace at present. Confucious
  • Score: 11

6:51pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

6:58pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

...... TOP SIX .. TOP FOUR .... TOP TWO ...

WE FIGHT FOR THE PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE AND A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE IN THE FA CUP. COYR

SAINTS FANS HAVE THE AMBITION.
...... TOP SIX .. TOP FOUR .... TOP TWO ... WE FIGHT FOR THE PREMIER LEAGUE TITLE AND A WEMBLEY APPEARANCE IN THE FA CUP. COYR SAINTS FANS HAVE THE AMBITION. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

7:03pm Sat 28 Jun 14

IOAD says...

Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be?
Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be? IOAD
  • Score: 1

7:14pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

IOAD wrote:
Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be?
It's just a trade between two clubs - usually us (selling) and one other (buying). There is no tax. However, the income will go into the P&L account and the business, as that's what we are apparently, will be taxed on it's profits. Then of course the shareholder will pay income tax when the money is taken out in dividends.
[quote][p][bold]IOAD[/bold] wrote: Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be?[/p][/quote]It's just a trade between two clubs - usually us (selling) and one other (buying). There is no tax. However, the income will go into the P&L account and the business, as that's what we are apparently, will be taxed on it's profits. Then of course the shareholder will pay income tax when the money is taken out in dividends. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

7:28pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN.

Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY.

NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME.

COYR
Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR[/p][/quote]Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added? jls217
  • Score: 1

7:30pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Could've got Schmeichel for nothing a few weeks ago!
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Could've got Schmeichel for nothing a few weeks ago! jls217
  • Score: 1

7:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
Well if the exodus that looks like it is going to happen, happens, he is going to need every penny! We already needed 3 players, we could end up doing a Sunderland and having to get nearly 9 or 10...if we are to maintain our momentum from last year!!!
It's already started Sally, Rambo might be able to bring one or two back on board next week but I fear there will be a couple more to go yet.
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hamilton Original[/bold] wrote: Well if the exodus that looks like it is going to happen, happens, he is going to need every penny! We already needed 3 players, we could end up doing a Sunderland and having to get nearly 9 or 10...if we are to maintain our momentum from last year!!![/p][/quote]It's already started Sally, Rambo might be able to bring one or two back on board next week but I fear there will be a couple more to go yet. jls217
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

deepheat says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
Selling Lovren to Liverpooooh would be mental. Southampton FC should tell Liverpoooooh to keep their F@eckin money and we will keep Lovren.

Has any club from the EPL sold three key players to another club from the EPL all within a month?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]Selling Lovren to Liverpooooh would be mental. Southampton FC should tell Liverpoooooh to keep their F@eckin money and we will keep Lovren. Has any club from the EPL sold three key players to another club from the EPL all within a month? deepheat
  • Score: 5

7:35pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

bullsbags wrote:
Jon Forte wrote:
What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any!
Sell him
He never did it for us and has done sod all in Italy
If this bloke had assaulted an opposition CB we may well have been able to take him back to our hearts once he'd served his penance for it. I think he went way too far, never lived up to his star billing and is being seen as a loose cannon in Italy which is one reason he's not at the WC. I would be surprised if there was a way back but then Rambo might have other thoughts. It's a shame because if he had applied himself to all things football here he had the makings of becoming a bit of a cult figure - but he blew it - silly boy.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon Forte[/bold] wrote: What are people's thoughts on keeping Osvaldo now we've sold or are selling the rest of out team? It's not like he'll be disrupting team spirt because there won't be any![/p][/quote]Sell him He never did it for us and has done sod all in Italy[/p][/quote]If this bloke had assaulted an opposition CB we may well have been able to take him back to our hearts once he'd served his penance for it. I think he went way too far, never lived up to his star billing and is being seen as a loose cannon in Italy which is one reason he's not at the WC. I would be surprised if there was a way back but then Rambo might have other thoughts. It's a shame because if he had applied himself to all things football here he had the makings of becoming a bit of a cult figure - but he blew it - silly boy. jls217
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

deepheat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
Selling Lovren to Liverpooooh would be mental. Southampton FC should tell Liverpoooooh to keep their F@eckin money and we will keep Lovren.

Has any club from the EPL sold three key players to another club from the EPL all within a month?
Not until now.

Actually I got it wrong. It's not Betfair it's Skybet. Just setting up an account now. You can get 4-1 on him going to Spurs, might hedge my bet.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]Selling Lovren to Liverpooooh would be mental. Southampton FC should tell Liverpoooooh to keep their F@eckin money and we will keep Lovren. Has any club from the EPL sold three key players to another club from the EPL all within a month?[/p][/quote]Not until now. Actually I got it wrong. It's not Betfair it's Skybet. Just setting up an account now. You can get 4-1 on him going to Spurs, might hedge my bet. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

7:40pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

st bevois wrote:
My heart was telling me that the team that finished last season could develop further with MP at the helm (with one or two additions) and had another 10 points in them on top of last seasons total. That would have put us right in the mix at the top next time around. My head is trying to tell me that Les and the backroom team have looked at performances and stats and have decided that it just wasn't going to happen his time around, especially with the front four. With JayRod injured, SRL on the wane, AL not able to complete 90 mins (in the eyes of the last manager - who was the best that we had had in a long while in most people's eyes ) and neither SD, JC or JWP able to contribute goals from a dominant midfield.

Our midfield and defence statistically were good enough for top 6 possibly top 4 (minus Artur's gaffs and the handicap of ref decisions). It was actually our most loved upfront that didn't convert chances into goals,.or as many goals as they should have. Only JRod improved significantly and he could/should have been nearer the 25 goal mark. SRL still brilliant with touch, control and vision but also missing guilt edged chances, he could have also been 20 goals plus. AL can be exceptional with MOTD goal of the month contenders but also had enough chances to emulate Le God and the brilliant David Armstrong and score 20+ from midfield.
Having said that I don't know what's telling me what now - head or heart?
I confess to being like Alice'sDad - I don't know what's going on. Although there are a few as always on here who are or appear to be damned sure. What I do know, like everyone else is that we have (despite the previous comments) lost an entire frontline unit one way or another. We need to spend the money wisely if we are to maintain or improve. The next 6 weeks will show if we have the ambition or are just another money making folio for the owner, but I got the impression that she was now genuinely enjoying where we were at. Genuine attempts were made to retain both NC and MP. MP didn't just walk out the door In 30 secs. He eventually left after somewhat protracted behind the scenes negotiations for a team that finished significantly above us in terms of points. They turned us over twice. We dominated the bulk of both games, could have had 4 or 5 goals in both matches - they got 3 in each from fewer opportunities; that's clinical finishing which is life at the top of the prem. I'm sure that wasn't lost on MP who started to become frustrated and referred to wastefulness at the end of matches at the end. Maybe he didn't believe that we could move on as fast as he desired. If the press rumours are true, then its notable that the only players of ours that Spurs might really be interested in are the likes of Morgan and Lovren. Money can't guarantee to buy you success, but if the board did do a Spurs and spent he cash - would we be moaning if we finished where they did? Money can't buy you a dressing room spirit either which does concern me and the loss of the English nucleus. We have also spent around £40 million in 2 yrs on a new spine in Lovren, Wan, Ram and Os which has not been a value for money success. It is quite astonishing that our real spine of Fonte, Morgan, Lala and SRL at less than £4 million has taken us from the bottom of L1 to the top half of the Prem. Use the money wisely guys!!!!! I'm in the balance, there has been year on year improvement since the ML takeover - even after his sad early demise. NC has been there since, it remains to be seen where we go from here now that he has gone. Its not long since he was regarded as a "not very nice person" - dictator who told us nothing!! To be sure it is even harder to progress from here. Much more so than from L1 or the Champs so it will be harder for the club to push on - I would still love to see us break the cartel at the top though!!! Nothing is guaranteed in football - certainly not at SFC. At least they haven't sold us shirts and players names, while deals are being done and still to be done. Hopefully some honesty there at least which I am trying to take the positives from (and why try and sale Saints merch while families are daft enough to spend £50 plus on England merch while the fanfare is on) Wonder how many Saints fans bought Lala England shirts - wasn't it the most popular sold? And why appoint RoKo if there is no ambition to at least keep us competing in the Prem?? I'm not necessarily sticking up for the board - I would rather have a "stuff you we don't need your overdraft money, we'll keep our players thank you and any more correspondence from you will be put straight into the shredder by the office junior without further reference." As the old saying goes (I really hope not) Don't **** on us and tell us its raining!! I'm not a happy clapper either but I'm still hoping for some champs!!!! AS FOR THIS SITE - THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST EVER ON THE WORLD WIDE NET TO TRY AND TYPE A COMMENT ON!!! ECHO TAKE NOTE.
Enjoyed reading this - sort of mirrors my thoughts and confusions too.
[quote][p][bold]st bevois[/bold] wrote: My heart was telling me that the team that finished last season could develop further with MP at the helm (with one or two additions) and had another 10 points in them on top of last seasons total. That would have put us right in the mix at the top next time around. My head is trying to tell me that Les and the backroom team have looked at performances and stats and have decided that it just wasn't going to happen his time around, especially with the front four. With JayRod injured, SRL on the wane, AL not able to complete 90 mins (in the eyes of the last manager - who was the best that we had had in a long while in most people's eyes [well since NA or AP anyway]) and neither SD, JC or JWP able to contribute goals from a dominant midfield. Our midfield and defence statistically were good enough for top 6 possibly top 4 (minus Artur's gaffs and the handicap of ref decisions). It was actually our most loved upfront that didn't convert chances into goals,.or as many goals as they should have. Only JRod improved significantly and he could/should have been nearer the 25 goal mark. SRL still brilliant with touch, control and vision but also missing guilt edged chances, he could have also been 20 goals plus. AL can be exceptional with MOTD goal of the month contenders but also had enough chances to emulate Le God and the brilliant David Armstrong and score 20+ from midfield. Having said that I don't know what's telling me what now - head or heart? I confess to being like Alice'sDad - I don't know what's going on. Although there are a few as always on here who are or appear to be damned sure. What I do know, like everyone else is that we have (despite the previous comments) lost an entire frontline unit one way or another. We need to spend the money wisely if we are to maintain or improve. The next 6 weeks will show if we have the ambition or are just another money making folio for the owner, but I got the impression that she was now genuinely enjoying where we were at. Genuine attempts were made to retain both NC and MP. MP didn't just walk out the door In 30 secs. He eventually left after somewhat protracted behind the scenes negotiations for a team that finished significantly above us in terms of points. They turned us over twice. We dominated the bulk of both games, could have had 4 or 5 goals in both matches - they got 3 in each from fewer opportunities; that's clinical finishing which is life at the top of the prem. I'm sure that wasn't lost on MP who started to become frustrated and referred to wastefulness at the end of matches at the end. Maybe he didn't believe that we could move on as fast as he desired. If the press rumours are true, then its notable that the only players of ours that Spurs might really be interested in are the likes of Morgan and Lovren. Money can't guarantee to buy you success, but if the board did do a Spurs and spent he cash - would we be moaning if we finished where they did? Money can't buy you a dressing room spirit either which does concern me and the loss of the English nucleus. We have also spent around £40 million in 2 yrs on a new spine in Lovren, Wan, Ram and Os which has not been a value for money success. It is quite astonishing that our real spine of Fonte, Morgan, Lala and SRL at less than £4 million has taken us from the bottom of L1 to the top half of the Prem. Use the money wisely guys!!!!! I'm in the balance, there has been year on year improvement since the ML takeover - even after his sad early demise. NC has been there since, it remains to be seen where we go from here now that he has gone. Its not long since he was regarded as a "not very nice person" - dictator who told us nothing!! To be sure it is even harder to progress from here. Much more so than from L1 or the Champs so it will be harder for the club to push on - I would still love to see us break the cartel at the top though!!! Nothing is guaranteed in football - certainly not at SFC. At least they haven't sold us shirts and players names, while deals are being done and still to be done. Hopefully some honesty there at least which I am trying to take the positives from (and why try and sale Saints merch while families are daft enough to spend £50 plus on England merch while the fanfare is on) Wonder how many Saints fans bought Lala England shirts - wasn't it the most popular sold? And why appoint RoKo if there is no ambition to at least keep us competing in the Prem?? I'm not necessarily sticking up for the board - I would rather have a "stuff you we don't need your overdraft money, we'll keep our players thank you and any more correspondence from you will be put straight into the shredder by the office junior without further reference." As the old saying goes (I really hope not) Don't **** on us and tell us its raining!! I'm not a happy clapper either but I'm still hoping for some champs!!!! AS FOR THIS SITE - THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST EVER ON THE WORLD WIDE NET TO TRY AND TYPE A COMMENT ON!!! ECHO TAKE NOTE.[/p][/quote]Enjoyed reading this - sort of mirrors my thoughts and confusions too. jls217
  • Score: 6

7:45pm Sat 28 Jun 14

MiltonRoad says...

noodlesnewman wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED !
So what would you have done differently. Players have all the power and they wanted to leave. We got top dollar for both of them and I am sure we will do the same with anymore that leave. If anyone has any evidence that the Board wanted this to happen I would be interested to hear it. Otherwise direct your anger to the players and manager who have disereted us, not the Board who are trying to deal with it. If you try and keep players that want to leave their agents leak stories into the press about disenchanted dressing room and you end up with a team that doesn't perform and a media frenzy about the Club. Then we would be a laughing stock. I would rather see the players leave and 11 players on the pitch that want to play for our club. This is what the fans deserve.
[quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there.[/p][/quote]Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED ![/p][/quote]So what would you have done differently. Players have all the power and they wanted to leave. We got top dollar for both of them and I am sure we will do the same with anymore that leave. If anyone has any evidence that the Board wanted this to happen I would be interested to hear it. Otherwise direct your anger to the players and manager who have disereted us, not the Board who are trying to deal with it. If you try and keep players that want to leave their agents leak stories into the press about disenchanted dressing room and you end up with a team that doesn't perform and a media frenzy about the Club. Then we would be a laughing stock. I would rather see the players leave and 11 players on the pitch that want to play for our club. This is what the fans deserve. MiltonRoad
  • Score: 9

7:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Simmo13 wrote:
M.U.CS1 wrote:
Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE !
You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit
Simmo it matters not that he's probably a pathetic piece of crap and that the M4 is probaly the closest he's ever been to Manchestaw. For once though what he's saying is probably right. We do not pay the wages likely to attract the top players because we handle our finances more responsibly than most. The best we can hope for is a fading star or two and hope to squeeze another season or two from them and a few up and comings lads who want to use Saints to get noticed on the big stage. As things stand we are never going to be a top half club which will every now and again have a good cup run, frighten the hell out of the big boys and every now and again slip and get caught up in a relegation battle - we are never going to break into that top five unless we can start filling a 60k stadium - and the sad truth is we can't but we'll have bloody good go at anyone who wants a good attacking game of football and we'll smile at the end of it all because that my friend is the Southampton way and what makes us stand out from some of the robots ruling the roost.
[quote][p][bold]Simmo13[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]M.U.CS1[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't matter if you had 200 million to spend on players, how many top players do you realistically think want to play for a club like Southampton ? Look at the players leaving for better things, should give you a clue ! Answer if you have not got it yet is NONE ![/p][/quote]You a manure fan living in Brighton I expect how many games you see last year about four I expect twit[/p][/quote]Simmo it matters not that he's probably a pathetic piece of crap and that the M4 is probaly the closest he's ever been to Manchestaw. For once though what he's saying is probably right. We do not pay the wages likely to attract the top players because we handle our finances more responsibly than most. The best we can hope for is a fading star or two and hope to squeeze another season or two from them and a few up and comings lads who want to use Saints to get noticed on the big stage. As things stand we are never going to be a top half club which will every now and again have a good cup run, frighten the hell out of the big boys and every now and again slip and get caught up in a relegation battle - we are never going to break into that top five unless we can start filling a 60k stadium - and the sad truth is we can't but we'll have bloody good go at anyone who wants a good attacking game of football and we'll smile at the end of it all because that my friend is the Southampton way and what makes us stand out from some of the robots ruling the roost. jls217
  • Score: 2

7:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-)

But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts.

While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on.

Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing.

However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood .....

Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too.

We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-) But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts. While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on. Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing. However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood ..... Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too. We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

7:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

bullsbags wrote:
Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Scheisse - Op Yewtree will be crawling all over us by Monday!
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Coarse I don't I'm only 5[/p][/quote]Scheisse - Op Yewtree will be crawling all over us by Monday! jls217
  • Score: 2

7:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Coarse I don't
I'm only 5
Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age!
Ouch! Below the belt Seedhouse but PMSL anyway.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Coarse I don't I'm only 5[/p][/quote]Bad luck. It's a tragedy that your best Saints days are behind you and at such a young age![/p][/quote]Ouch! Below the belt Seedhouse but PMSL anyway. jls217
  • Score: 1

7:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
Rarely will you get more certain a winner mate.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]Rarely will you get more certain a winner mate. jls217
  • Score: 0

7:54pm Sat 28 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

jls217 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR
Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?
YES is the answer ....

I hope that SAINTS Posters can answer the detail for you.

IT IS THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP AND ACHIEVABLE COYR
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR[/p][/quote]Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?[/p][/quote]YES is the answer .... I hope that SAINTS Posters can answer the detail for you. IT IS THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP AND ACHIEVABLE COYR The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 0

7:59pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

redandy10 wrote:
Invidia wrote:
Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.
Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem?

Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things.

The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay..........
Redandy - I salute you sir - I am warming to your enthusiasm better to be a deluded happy and contented fool such as I than a miserable, downbeat season ticket holder who nevertheless won't take up an offer to take his season ticket if he really doesn't want it.

.......The sun has got his hat on and he's coming out to play.
[quote][p][bold]redandy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Come on Seed cheer up, try more tonic with the gin everybody knows gin is a depressant, You will still be there cheering the Saints come the start of the season and who knows after a half dozen games you could even be on here eating humble pie, well I sincerely hope so.[/p][/quote]Yeah Seed stop being such a downer for the rest of us. So what we lost our manager and we are now in the process of losing our best players. I mean really, what's your problem? Come next season I'll be down at St Marys, sporting a jaunty scarf and clutching a rattle applauding the lads off the pitch, even if they have performed abominably. Bottom of the table, Championship or League 1, we'll all be there with fixed grins, win lose or draw. Seed why are you so hung up on the team getting into Europe? Cor, you don't half know how to put a dampner on things. The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip horay..........[/p][/quote]Redandy - I salute you sir - I am warming to your enthusiasm better to be a deluded happy and contented fool such as I than a miserable, downbeat season ticket holder who nevertheless won't take up an offer to take his season ticket if he really doesn't want it. .......The sun has got his hat on and he's coming out to play. jls217
  • Score: 3

8:04pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

SaintMatt97 wrote:
Saints in two/three years:
Marshal
Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker
Cork/wan Spiderlin
JWP(will be class)
J-Rod Sims
Sammy G
Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?
Spiderman, JWP and Jrod will almost certainly be gone.

You're forgetting Reed and the half dozen Dutch u21's who will be coming through. Also the Welsh lad on the wing I can never remember his name - begins with an I. With a little good fortune and the skill of a few doctors I might still be alive to witness it.

That's why next season is going to be orgasmic!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMatt97[/bold] wrote: Saints in two/three years: Marshal Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker Cork/wan Spiderlin JWP(will be class) J-Rod Sims Sammy G Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?[/p][/quote]Spiderman, JWP and Jrod will almost certainly be gone. You're forgetting Reed and the half dozen Dutch u21's who will be coming through. Also the Welsh lad on the wing I can never remember his name - begins with an I. With a little good fortune and the skill of a few doctors I might still be alive to witness it. That's why next season is going to be orgasmic! jls217
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

IOAD says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
IOAD wrote:
Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be?
It's just a trade between two clubs - usually us (selling) and one other (buying). There is no tax. However, the income will go into the P&L account and the business, as that's what we are apparently, will be taxed on it's profits. Then of course the shareholder will pay income tax when the money is taken out in dividends.
Thank you for that. I was thinking vaguely about VAT as I was walking to the Co-op this morning, enjoying the mountains.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IOAD[/bold] wrote: Who pays the tax on a £30,000,000 transfer and how much would it be?[/p][/quote]It's just a trade between two clubs - usually us (selling) and one other (buying). There is no tax. However, the income will go into the P&L account and the business, as that's what we are apparently, will be taxed on it's profits. Then of course the shareholder will pay income tax when the money is taken out in dividends.[/p][/quote]Thank you for that. I was thinking vaguely about VAT as I was walking to the Co-op this morning, enjoying the mountains. IOAD
  • Score: 0

8:23pm Sat 28 Jun 14

sparky130a says...

jls217 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN.

Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY.

NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME.

COYR
Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?
I've no idea construction wise but you'd like to think so. I can't justify a season ticket because i have my daughter on varying w/e's but i always struggle to get 2 seats together for us both so demand seems to be there.

That same 10 year old daughter loved last season, the atmosphere and the way both staff and fellow fans treated her. She'll be a fan for life. That's what makes us a club.

Players, directors and management come and go. The fan is the only constant.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR[/p][/quote]Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?[/p][/quote]I've no idea construction wise but you'd like to think so. I can't justify a season ticket because i have my daughter on varying w/e's but i always struggle to get 2 seats together for us both so demand seems to be there. That same 10 year old daughter loved last season, the atmosphere and the way both staff and fellow fans treated her. She'll be a fan for life. That's what makes us a club. Players, directors and management come and go. The fan is the only constant. sparky130a
  • Score: 3

8:34pm Sat 28 Jun 14

White and red till dead says...

Chrissymarsdenfootba
llgenius
wrote:
When a new manager comes in to an established and stable team there is always trouble - Paul sturrock and moyes prove this point! Certain players who are way way to big for their boots can rally the squad against the boss and cause disarray. In my opinion the break down of the squad by removing self obsessed and self proclaimed big time players is essential in the success of a new manager at the helm, take out the bad apples and sell them to a foolish team who will pay 3 times what they are worth and let the manager bring in his lads creating a hybrid team with a newly evolving hierarchy with the manager sat at the top where he belongs! Call me old fashioned but when has a spring clean and a fresh start ever been considered a bad thing, let's get some fresh blood in the team, let the manager create his vision to the full and support the saints! Coyr - like if you agree?!
I don't think there will be a problem with big boots players as they've gone already.
[quote][p][bold]Chrissymarsdenfootba llgenius[/bold] wrote: When a new manager comes in to an established and stable team there is always trouble - Paul sturrock and moyes prove this point! Certain players who are way way to big for their boots can rally the squad against the boss and cause disarray. In my opinion the break down of the squad by removing self obsessed and self proclaimed big time players is essential in the success of a new manager at the helm, take out the bad apples and sell them to a foolish team who will pay 3 times what they are worth and let the manager bring in his lads creating a hybrid team with a newly evolving hierarchy with the manager sat at the top where he belongs! Call me old fashioned but when has a spring clean and a fresh start ever been considered a bad thing, let's get some fresh blood in the team, let the manager create his vision to the full and support the saints! Coyr - like if you agree?![/p][/quote]I don't think there will be a problem with big boots players as they've gone already. White and red till dead
  • Score: 3

8:42pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Thankyounicola says...

Stop writing these kind of speculative poor quality article. You write a teenager. Sorry to offend you but it's true.
Stop writing these kind of speculative poor quality article. You write a teenager. Sorry to offend you but it's true. Thankyounicola
  • Score: -3

8:44pm Sat 28 Jun 14

milton road says...

Luke Shaw signed a deal with Saints last year because he owed Saints for all they had done he turned the top sides in the country down. If he had gone then Saints would of got next to nothing because he had not signed professional forms. The fact he has given us a season before going which was possibly always on the cards before he signed the contract to give Saint best price, whilst disappointing, has given us a healthy wad of cash.
Koeman needs to be bringing in top talent before Spider returns because hiis quotes today do not look promising. His star is already rising far higher than Lallana's and Shaw's, with France, and the further France go the more interest there will be in him and his price rise.

It already looks as though Saints have 80 million plus transfer kitty if the sale of Lallana goes through. Unfortunately if we do not buy quickly in fact now we are going to lose more. The talk with Lallana and Shaw going has been there since the end of the season and we still have not moved to sign anyone to calm an unsteady ship. Which is in its way quite bizarre.
Luke Shaw signed a deal with Saints last year because he owed Saints for all they had done he turned the top sides in the country down. If he had gone then Saints would of got next to nothing because he had not signed professional forms. The fact he has given us a season before going which was possibly always on the cards before he signed the contract to give Saint best price, whilst disappointing, has given us a healthy wad of cash. Koeman needs to be bringing in top talent before Spider returns because hiis quotes today do not look promising. His star is already rising far higher than Lallana's and Shaw's, with France, and the further France go the more interest there will be in him and his price rise. It already looks as though Saints have 80 million plus transfer kitty if the sale of Lallana goes through. Unfortunately if we do not buy quickly in fact now we are going to lose more. The talk with Lallana and Shaw going has been there since the end of the season and we still have not moved to sign anyone to calm an unsteady ship. Which is in its way quite bizarre. milton road
  • Score: 1

8:55pm Sat 28 Jun 14

redsnapper says...

Whichever you cut it Les and Ralph obviously did not sell ambition to Poch and since then the squad has been on holiday/ in Brasil / and probably completed isolated as they wonder what to do next. Let's hope the Flying Dutchman can stop the rot.
Whichever you cut it Les and Ralph obviously did not sell ambition to Poch and since then the squad has been on holiday/ in Brasil / and probably completed isolated as they wonder what to do next. Let's hope the Flying Dutchman can stop the rot. redsnapper
  • Score: 1

8:57pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-)

But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts.

While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on.

Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing.

However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood .....

Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too.

We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.
Cortese was a total git but an effective git for shareholder, players and fans alike. 5 years of success doesn't guarantee future success but it's a bloody good indication.

I think the new board are guilty of naivety no more no less. NC's departure was a massive blow to the vision but didn't have to be terminal. Ralph and Les really needed to get MoPo on board and commit to continuing the charge, after all we've not had a chance like this for 30 years. I always saw it as an 'all or nothing' because the team were so close knit that if some started to leave then the others were going to be influenced by that. The players did tell us all that they wanted him to stay and that was key, so it's not like the warnings weren't there.

MoPo started off by saying they hadn't even spoken to him, there was almost a 'come and sort it out' invitation. Once he switched to 'let's leave it until the end of the season' I feared he had made a decision to leave.

I'm sure Ralph is a nice bloke, unlike Cortese, but unfortunately in the savage world of the EPL that doesn't get you very far.

Ron has got his work cut out and if the club are true to their word he does have a serious war chest so all is not lost. I like the stamp of the man.

There, is that better?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-) But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts. While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on. Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing. However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood ..... Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too. We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.[/p][/quote]Cortese was a total git but an effective git for shareholder, players and fans alike. 5 years of success doesn't guarantee future success but it's a bloody good indication. I think the new board are guilty of naivety no more no less. NC's departure was a massive blow to the vision but didn't have to be terminal. Ralph and Les really needed to get MoPo on board and commit to continuing the charge, after all we've not had a chance like this for 30 years. I always saw it as an 'all or nothing' because the team were so close knit that if some started to leave then the others were going to be influenced by that. The players did tell us all that they wanted him to stay and that was key, so it's not like the warnings weren't there. MoPo started off by saying they hadn't even spoken to him, there was almost a 'come and sort it out' invitation. Once he switched to 'let's leave it until the end of the season' I feared he had made a decision to leave. I'm sure Ralph is a nice bloke, unlike Cortese, but unfortunately in the savage world of the EPL that doesn't get you very far. Ron has got his work cut out and if the club are true to their word he does have a serious war chest so all is not lost. I like the stamp of the man. There, is that better? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

9:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

jls217 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN.

Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY.

NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME.

COYR
Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?
I seem to remember that either the Itchen or the Kingsland has the foundations to enable a further tier to be put on, but it would be hugely expensive per seat - no idea how many it could hold.

Extension and refurbishment is far more than new build (per sq m) so given the congestion and parking problems a new ground has to be considered. Our hardcore support was 21k in Div1 and 26k in the championship. Extra fans will not have the same passion, at first anyway, and will want easy access coming and going or they won't bother. Many of us make a whole day of it on match days supporting the Saints but others will want to make it an afternoon with the kids watching Prem football.

I'd actually prefer to see this money spent on a ground than players. But that's a long term commitment which I don't think this lot have. I admire Arsenal for building the Emirates and then accepting several seasons of winning bugger all as they paid off the mortgage. Now they have the facilities, unencumbered, and can spend all that interest money they were previously paying out of revenues on players and wages. Brilliant piece of business.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR[/p][/quote]Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?[/p][/quote]I seem to remember that either the Itchen or the Kingsland has the foundations to enable a further tier to be put on, but it would be hugely expensive per seat - no idea how many it could hold. Extension and refurbishment is far more than new build (per sq m) so given the congestion and parking problems a new ground has to be considered. Our hardcore support was 21k in Div1 and 26k in the championship. Extra fans will not have the same passion, at first anyway, and will want easy access coming and going or they won't bother. Many of us make a whole day of it on match days supporting the Saints but others will want to make it an afternoon with the kids watching Prem football. I'd actually prefer to see this money spent on a ground than players. But that's a long term commitment which I don't think this lot have. I admire Arsenal for building the Emirates and then accepting several seasons of winning bugger all as they paid off the mortgage. Now they have the facilities, unencumbered, and can spend all that interest money they were previously paying out of revenues on players and wages. Brilliant piece of business. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

9:13pm Sat 28 Jun 14

dunque says...

itsnotjustice wrote:
Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others..

also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do.

id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.
Indeed - at least Ramirez got an assist at the WC
[quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: Pretty much another non story.. We have sold three key players, and your totally speculating on the others.. also, i think we should try and keep hold of ramirez, with lallana off he could get a decent run of games and shine like he can do. id actually like to try keep hold of osvaldo aswell, new manager, few new players. could finally settle down and play well.[/p][/quote]Indeed - at least Ramirez got an assist at the WC dunque
  • Score: 0

9:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
don't understand why you got thumbs down for your well reasoned post. Seems we still have to convince some fans of exactly how damaging selling your best players can be as it starts a snowball or domino effect as the players remaining see no ambition. Even I know this from selling a star name on Football manager pc games the effect it has on the others is swift. The problem we have is Krueger knows nothing about Football, Reed isn't a success story look how quickly he failed at Charlton. Liebherr has no passion for the club. Rogers well who knows what he does. We need to start a campaign on twitter on the Saints page to start pressuring them to make some signings. It's worrying how much contempt for the fans this useless shower of a board have. It's nearly July and our whole club is significantly weeker with no sign of re-inforcements and don't say but, Koeman doesn't start until 1st July. Van Gaal at Man Utd doesn't start until Holland are out of the world cup yet Man Utd have signed two players already with more to come
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]don't understand why you got thumbs down for your well reasoned post. Seems we still have to convince some fans of exactly how damaging selling your best players can be as it starts a snowball or domino effect as the players remaining see no ambition. Even I know this from selling a star name on Football manager pc games the effect it has on the others is swift. The problem we have is Krueger knows nothing about Football, Reed isn't a success story look how quickly he failed at Charlton. Liebherr has no passion for the club. Rogers well who knows what he does. We need to start a campaign on twitter on the Saints page to start pressuring them to make some signings. It's worrying how much contempt for the fans this useless shower of a board have. It's nearly July and our whole club is significantly weeker with no sign of re-inforcements and don't say but, Koeman doesn't start until 1st July. Van Gaal at Man Utd doesn't start until Holland are out of the world cup yet Man Utd have signed two players already with more to come upwherewebelong
  • Score: -2

9:19pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-)

But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts.

While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on.

Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing.

However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood .....

Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too.

We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.
Cortese was a total git but an effective git for shareholder, players and fans alike. 5 years of success doesn't guarantee future success but it's a bloody good indication.

I think the new board are guilty of naivety no more no less. NC's departure was a massive blow to the vision but didn't have to be terminal. Ralph and Les really needed to get MoPo on board and commit to continuing the charge, after all we've not had a chance like this for 30 years. I always saw it as an 'all or nothing' because the team were so close knit that if some started to leave then the others were going to be influenced by that. The players did tell us all that they wanted him to stay and that was key, so it's not like the warnings weren't there.

MoPo started off by saying they hadn't even spoken to him, there was almost a 'come and sort it out' invitation. Once he switched to 'let's leave it until the end of the season' I feared he had made a decision to leave.

I'm sure Ralph is a nice bloke, unlike Cortese, but unfortunately in the savage world of the EPL that doesn't get you very far.

Ron has got his work cut out and if the club are true to their word he does have a serious war chest so all is not lost. I like the stamp of the man.

There, is that better?
Can't argue with that, Seed. Just not sure your judgment is always right. For example, I reckon the chicken jalfrezi would have been a better option in Manchester. :)

Mind you, since the World Cup started, my judgment's gone all loopy, I've been rooting for the Aussies, the French, the Iranians, the Portuguese (family loyalty) and half of South America. I even wanted the Italians to beat Costa Rica, and then wanted Uruguay to beat Italy (until feeding time began, that is).

If you find yourself operating Confucious's suicide hotline this week, I might have to call for help if I find myself shouting for the Argies or Germans.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-) But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts. While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on. Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing. However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood ..... Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too. We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.[/p][/quote]Cortese was a total git but an effective git for shareholder, players and fans alike. 5 years of success doesn't guarantee future success but it's a bloody good indication. I think the new board are guilty of naivety no more no less. NC's departure was a massive blow to the vision but didn't have to be terminal. Ralph and Les really needed to get MoPo on board and commit to continuing the charge, after all we've not had a chance like this for 30 years. I always saw it as an 'all or nothing' because the team were so close knit that if some started to leave then the others were going to be influenced by that. The players did tell us all that they wanted him to stay and that was key, so it's not like the warnings weren't there. MoPo started off by saying they hadn't even spoken to him, there was almost a 'come and sort it out' invitation. Once he switched to 'let's leave it until the end of the season' I feared he had made a decision to leave. I'm sure Ralph is a nice bloke, unlike Cortese, but unfortunately in the savage world of the EPL that doesn't get you very far. Ron has got his work cut out and if the club are true to their word he does have a serious war chest so all is not lost. I like the stamp of the man. There, is that better?[/p][/quote]Can't argue with that, Seed. Just not sure your judgment is always right. For example, I reckon the chicken jalfrezi would have been a better option in Manchester. :) Mind you, since the World Cup started, my judgment's gone all loopy, I've been rooting for the Aussies, the French, the Iranians, the Portuguese (family loyalty) and half of South America. I even wanted the Italians to beat Costa Rica, and then wanted Uruguay to beat Italy (until feeding time began, that is). If you find yourself operating Confucious's suicide hotline this week, I might have to call for help if I find myself shouting for the Argies or Germans. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

9:26pm Sat 28 Jun 14

tennisaint says...

Here we go again build another team and then sale to top four. I wonder is it worth it they put the prices up we will sit through a season of rebuild maybe lucky to survive. Thinking of watching Eastleigh and going to the odd game. I can understand why our best players are leaving you cannot blame them. I just wish the money was not in the Prem and then we could get back to building our team around young British players just like what Germany have done. I hope I'm wrong and the new Manager will stay with the plan
Here we go again build another team and then sale to top four. I wonder is it worth it they put the prices up we will sit through a season of rebuild maybe lucky to survive. Thinking of watching Eastleigh and going to the odd game. I can understand why our best players are leaving you cannot blame them. I just wish the money was not in the Prem and then we could get back to building our team around young British players just like what Germany have done. I hope I'm wrong and the new Manager will stay with the plan tennisaint
  • Score: -1

9:36pm Sat 28 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money!
I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-)

But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts.

While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on.

Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing.

However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood .....

Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too.

We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.
absobloodylutely stras, another sensible comment.
people seem to think that because we aren't moaning and groaning and assuming the walls are falling down we are happy with whats going on!
am I happy that luke and laloadsamoneyla have been sold (laloadsamoneyla on Monday? of course not, am I happy rickie has gone? again not for saints but I am for him.
am i happy MP left? no but don't forget he QUIT. he was offered higher wages and transfer kitty than at spuds but he sees them as he saw us, just a stepping stone to Barcelona. it had nothing to do with `vision` that's just an excuse. he wanted out when NC left, he said as much previously but people think he had a massive u turn because he wanted to stay. no he was just waiting for a club to pick up the `fine` he had to pay if he quit, spuds were his unlucky victim. that's what the `honouring his contract` talk was all about! he had to `honour` the payment and didn't want to do it himself!
shall I wallow in self pity and assume that every other player is going to leave? NO
i support the saints whether they are in L1 or the champions league. i will support EVERY player that pulls on the shirt.
the season hasn't even started and some have got us down for a relegation dog fight already. if we are fighting relegation next season, which we wont be, i will support the team.
i suppose that makes me `less` of a fan than the moaners, with nothing better to do than spend all my days on here. after all we have been told that if we don't see doom and gloom everywhere and only post on here when theres a `bad` story we arnet `proper` fans!
well boll0cks to that, ive suffered enough pain and am on a high enough dose daily dose of morphine, amongst others, to realise that football isn't worth getting that wound up about!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Do you know you can get 8/11 on Lovren signing for Liverpool on Betfair? Interestingly they're offering the same odds on Jay Rod to Spurs. Easy money![/p][/quote]I heard they've stopped taking bets on you being a miserable b4st4rd till the new season starts, Seed. :-) But jesting aside, in case some take the banter too seriously (and some do) or think that those of us who refuse to be totally down about all this feel that EVERYTHING is just fine, here are some thoughts. While I don't agree with all you are saying about this - mostly because like all of us, I just don't know the whole story on any one part of it - I think you have a point about some of what's going on. Ralph's early comment about financial problems needing to be addressed didn't help and the mixed messages (and lack of messages) coming out at various times since about Easter are somewhat confusing. However, who's to say that things would have stayed on course if NC (and, thus, MP) had stayed? Also, it's not as though everything ran smoothly when they were here, is it? Lest we forget ....... the handling of the media/photographers, the Le Tiss/Benali affair, the prolonged on/off signings like Forren/Ramirez, changing his mind on certain matters, hiring skates at Staplewood ..... Nothing's perfect and I'd have liked the current board to have handled things differently, but I'd also have liked NC to have done certain things differently, too. We are where we are, and I'm not going to allow myself to suffer high blood pressure because of it.[/p][/quote]absobloodylutely stras, another sensible comment. people seem to think that because we aren't moaning and groaning and assuming the walls are falling down we are happy with whats going on! am I happy that luke and laloadsamoneyla have been sold (laloadsamoneyla on Monday? of course not, am I happy rickie has gone? again not for saints but I am for him. am i happy MP left? no but don't forget he QUIT. he was offered higher wages and transfer kitty than at spuds but he sees them as he saw us, just a stepping stone to Barcelona. it had nothing to do with `vision` that's just an excuse. he wanted out when NC left, he said as much previously but people think he had a massive u turn because he wanted to stay. no he was just waiting for a club to pick up the `fine` he had to pay if he quit, spuds were his unlucky victim. that's what the `honouring his contract` talk was all about! he had to `honour` the payment and didn't want to do it himself! shall I wallow in self pity and assume that every other player is going to leave? NO i support the saints whether they are in L1 or the champions league. i will support EVERY player that pulls on the shirt. the season hasn't even started and some have got us down for a relegation dog fight already. if we are fighting relegation next season, which we wont be, i will support the team. i suppose that makes me `less` of a fan than the moaners, with nothing better to do than spend all my days on here. after all we have been told that if we don't see doom and gloom everywhere and only post on here when theres a `bad` story we arnet `proper` fans! well boll0cks to that, ive suffered enough pain and am on a high enough dose daily dose of morphine, amongst others, to realise that football isn't worth getting that wound up about! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 9

9:37pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Saint Anubis says...

Ok £100m will probably buy 8 osvaldos and maybe a Forren

Seriously though even with the amount quoted it won't mean the players we buy will work etc.... Look what happened to the proceeds of Bales sale from spurs. Our biggest sucesses have been what they call bargain buys and the expensive signings haven't really worked out so far.

Suppose he might buy well as hasn't really failed in any of his management history to date.
Ok £100m will probably buy 8 osvaldos and maybe a Forren Seriously though even with the amount quoted it won't mean the players we buy will work etc.... Look what happened to the proceeds of Bales sale from spurs. Our biggest sucesses have been what they call bargain buys and the expensive signings haven't really worked out so far. Suppose he might buy well as hasn't really failed in any of his management history to date. Saint Anubis
  • Score: 1

10:01pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintsfan76 says...

Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.
Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special. saintsfan76
  • Score: 6

10:21pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

saintsfan76 wrote:
Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.
My thoughts exactly.

Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit.
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 16

10:31pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

noodlesnewman wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED !
Our wannaway/already-awa
y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth.
They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they
weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs.
Koeman will buy players who achieve more.
Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors
depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril.
[quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there.[/p][/quote]Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED ![/p][/quote]Our wannaway/already-awa y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth. They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs. Koeman will buy players who achieve more. Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 14

10:38pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
noodlesnewman wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED !
Our wannaway/already-awa

y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth.
They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they
weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs.
Koeman will buy players who achieve more.
Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors
depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril.
That's the spirit!

And look, even Gaston's playing well tonight. Things are looking up.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there.[/p][/quote]Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED ![/p][/quote]Our wannaway/already-awa y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth. They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs. Koeman will buy players who achieve more. Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril.[/p][/quote]That's the spirit! And look, even Gaston's playing well tonight. Things are looking up. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 8

10:48pm Sat 28 Jun 14

upwherewebelong says...

jls217 wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN.

Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY.

NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME.

COYR
Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?
Yes st Mary's can be extended up to a maximum capacity of 60k I believe only itchen stand can't be extended
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: NEED TO GET THESE PLAYERS IN. Additional to the WAR CHEST - We should have paid off the Building of the YOUTH ACADEMY. NEXT UP IS A MODEST INCREASE in the Seasting Capacity of ST MARY'S - We do need to increase for the CLASS A GAMES - Where Tickets are a Premium and SUPPORT is FULL UP AT HOME. COYR[/p][/quote]Is St Mary's capable of expansion - I've asked this a couple of times and never received a response, if it is how many can be added?[/p][/quote]Yes st Mary's can be extended up to a maximum capacity of 60k I believe only itchen stand can't be extended upwherewebelong
  • Score: 3

10:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

markodarko29 says...

Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in markodarko29
  • Score: 13

10:56pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Littleton-Saint says...

markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Exactly, let's replace the traitors with better players and punch on.
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Exactly, let's replace the traitors with better players and punch on. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 7

10:57pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
[quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 6

11:00pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.[/p][/quote]Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

11:03pm Sat 28 Jun 14

jls217 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
noodlesnewman wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players.

The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !!

We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season.

This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be !

It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money.

The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that.

Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight.

Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this !
Sorry, can't help you there.
Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED !
Our wannaway/already-awa


y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth.
They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they
weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs.
Koeman will buy players who achieve more.
Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors
depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril.
That's the spirit!

And look, even Gaston's playing well tonight. Things are looking up.
And Andy Townsend seems to think he might be going to Torino and summed it up by asking if Saints will have 11 players to field a team this season.
That's an ex saint talking and sounds so frustrated by it that he has to take the mickey to stop saying what he really thinks.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: Ok, so the board have allowed the break up of the brilliant group we had taken 5 years to build up to. I am saddened by this as I think we have missed the opportunity to push on to being in the top six next season. Not sure how long if ever, we will get to being that close again and if we do, then the big clubs will come and take our next crop of quality players. The Board are being soft & naive - first why can't they say no to players wanting to go, I guess Morgan will be next after Lovren and I don't blame them. Who wants to stay at a club that is selling all its best players !! We will need all the transfer funds just to replace all the top players that have left, not all of which will be as good as what we had. Example is Osvaldo and the centreback that never played. So we will get some that do well and some that don't - net result is a worse team than last season. This is hardly the ambition to move forward that Les says in his statements. WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT WE ARE SELLING THEM ALL BEFORE WE BUY ANY. How naive can the board be ! It leaves RonKo having to find and attract eight or nine players to a club that has sold all its stars and having to pay over the odds for any players that he does attract because the selling clubs will know that we are now desperate with plenty of money. The boards actions fail me, I thought they were more astute than that. Guess the ambition is not to take the club forward just to be a mid-table side & hopefully avoid a relegation fight. Can someone please tell me I am wrong about all this ![/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you there.[/p][/quote]Yep looks like this bunch of clueless cowboys have allowed this squad to dissolve infront of our very eyes ! who an earth would want to come to a club thats getting rid of all its best players ! ? NOW I AM WORRIED its gonna be like rats jumping from a burning ship ,at this rate relegation looms ! DEMONSRATE OUTSIDE ST MARYS NOW ! ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED , SO OBVIOUS WHERE WERE HEADING ! COME BACK AND SAVE US NICOLA !SOS ! NO DECENT PLAYERS GONNA WANNA COME HERE NOW !CHEERS FOR MAKING US A LAUGHING STOCK AGAIN REED ![/p][/quote]Our wannaway/already-awa y players aren't so great - they only finished eighth. They might well bang on about wanting Euro football, but they weren't good enough to achieve that level with us and I can see them as only bit-part players at other clubs. Koeman will buy players who achieve more. Give him time. Have faith. Things will actually improve once the traitors depart. Saints is the best club, period - leave at your own peril.[/p][/quote]That's the spirit! And look, even Gaston's playing well tonight. Things are looking up.[/p][/quote]And Andy Townsend seems to think he might be going to Torino and summed it up by asking if Saints will have 11 players to field a team this season. That's an ex saint talking and sounds so frustrated by it that he has to take the mickey to stop saying what he really thinks. jls217
  • Score: -1

11:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

"Ronald Koeman officially starts work at Saints next week with a potential £100m war chest at his disposal."

£100m my @rse! Anyone can see what is going on here, the bean-counters are asset-stripping the club. Successful Swiss businessmen don't get rich by being mugs, and Kat Liebherr is no mug.

If Koeman gets to spend anywhere near even £50m I will be amazed.
"Ronald Koeman officially starts work at Saints next week with a potential £100m war chest at his disposal." £100m my @rse! Anyone can see what is going on here, the bean-counters are asset-stripping the club. Successful Swiss businessmen don't get rich by being mugs, and Kat Liebherr is no mug. If Koeman gets to spend anywhere near even £50m I will be amazed. Jan28th1984
  • Score: -10

11:18pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

I'll tell you who the mugs are here.............us!
I'll tell you who the mugs are here.............us! Jan28th1984
  • Score: -9

11:35pm Sat 28 Jun 14

saintmac says...

The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed. saintmac
  • Score: -10

11:39pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 7

11:47pm Sat 28 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.
£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.[/p][/quote]Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.[/p][/quote]£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 3

11:52pm Sat 28 Jun 14

isolated saint says...

Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell isolated saint
  • Score: -6

11:53pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Jan28th1984 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.
£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down.
Throw in some Green Shield stamps as well.
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.[/p][/quote]Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.[/p][/quote]£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down.[/p][/quote]Throw in some Green Shield stamps as well. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

12:02am Sun 29 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
Why get Koeman in if that's the plan? Surely you'd opt for some cheap yes man, much like Leeds have just done?
[quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]Why get Koeman in if that's the plan? Surely you'd opt for some cheap yes man, much like Leeds have just done? St Van Roetford
  • Score: 5

12:06am Sun 29 Jun 14

St Van Roetford says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.
£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down.
Throw in some Green Shield stamps as well.
Brilliant. I think we can confidently say that's a done deal. NEXT!
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.[/p][/quote]Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.[/p][/quote]£10k a week? We're not made of money, Seed. He can play for £10 an hour but we'll incentivise him with vouchers for Owen Owen for every goal he scores. He'd be daft to turn that down.[/p][/quote]Throw in some Green Shield stamps as well.[/p][/quote]Brilliant. I think we can confidently say that's a done deal. NEXT! St Van Roetford
  • Score: 2

12:54am Sun 29 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 6

1:58am Sun 29 Jun 14

Block 42 says...

bullsbags wrote:
bullsbags wrote:
Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters
Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago
Add Charlie Austin to that list
Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is
Do you lot have zero ambition yall????
We need world class players.
Caulker??off of relegated cardiff
Ings proven at championship as is austin
Lets get in alexis sanchez for starters.
Javier hernandez.
Im still laughing at the charlie austen one.
[quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bullsbags[/bold] wrote: Ingsi,caulker and Marshall for starters Should have bought Kasper Schmeikel 2 years ago[/p][/quote]Add Charlie Austin to that list Big,strong and knows where the back of the net is[/p][/quote]Do you lot have zero ambition yall???? We need world class players. Caulker??off of relegated cardiff Ings proven at championship as is austin Lets get in alexis sanchez for starters. Javier hernandez. Im still laughing at the charlie austen one. Block 42
  • Score: 3

2:05am Sun 29 Jun 14

TGodSFC says...

St Van Roetford wrote:
saintsfan76 wrote:
Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.
My thoughts exactly.

Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit.
You do realise James Rodriguez signed for Monaco last season for 42m
[quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit.[/p][/quote]You do realise James Rodriguez signed for Monaco last season for 42m TGodSFC
  • Score: 4

2:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

TGodSFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
markodarko29 wrote:
Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in
Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.
Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.
Plays for Monaco signed for 42M last season, no chance.
I looked into Timothee Kolodziejczak, Graziano Pelle and Dusan Tadic. They all look good especially Tadic, could get all 3 for about 30M should definitely start with these boys.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markodarko29[/bold] wrote: Yeh this Colombian James Rodriguez makes lallana look like ian dowie on the ball ,different class,come on Ronnie stick a 30 m bid in[/p][/quote]Heh. I fear we may not be the first people to notice that he's quite good and we'd probably need to double that bid but I bet he'd be bloody well up for swapping the South of France for the South of ampton. Make this happen.[/p][/quote]Yep. Offer him £10k a week and chuck in some tokens for the canteen. Should clinch it.[/p][/quote]Plays for Monaco signed for 42M last season, no chance. I looked into Timothee Kolodziejczak, Graziano Pelle and Dusan Tadic. They all look good especially Tadic, could get all 3 for about 30M should definitely start with these boys. TGodSFC
  • Score: 4

2:35am Sun 29 Jun 14

TGodSFC says...

isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!! TGodSFC
  • Score: 10

2:56am Sun 29 Jun 14

nickw4 says...

Personally I have my doubts about Pelle, however if big Ronnie wants to bring him in, I'll back him to the hill. With a 100 million transfer kitty, we could go big on two players and then bring in a few quality but less expensive ones, for example pelle. Maybe 2 players at 25-30 mil, then another 2 or 3 around 10, who nows whats in store for us saints fans, onwards and upwards! COYS

Who knows, maybe we could go for that Rodriguez bloke from Columbia, did you see his goal vs. Uruguay, WHAT A HIT SON, WHAT A HIT!
Personally I have my doubts about Pelle, however if big Ronnie wants to bring him in, I'll back him to the hill. With a 100 million transfer kitty, we could go big on two players and then bring in a few quality but less expensive ones, for example pelle. Maybe 2 players at 25-30 mil, then another 2 or 3 around 10, who nows whats in store for us saints fans, onwards and upwards! COYS Who knows, maybe we could go for that Rodriguez bloke from Columbia, did you see his goal vs. Uruguay, WHAT A HIT SON, WHAT A HIT! nickw4
  • Score: 1

5:27am Sun 29 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

By the time we play the pool away on the opening day we wil know the boards ambition.who they buy and how much they spend will tell the tale.ralphs comment in his opening statement about a 20 million hole in the budget set my alarm bells ringing.if this is not laying the groundwork for budget cutting I don't know what is.
Why wasn't les given the chairmans role? He is doing the chairmans job at the moment so where is Ralph?
They are clueless.why have these players been allowed to leave before their replacements were signed?
If Lallana goes next week I hope his replacement has already signed on the dotted line because otherwise that is just incompetence.
By the time we play the pool away on the opening day we wil know the boards ambition.who they buy and how much they spend will tell the tale.ralphs comment in his opening statement about a 20 million hole in the budget set my alarm bells ringing.if this is not laying the groundwork for budget cutting I don't know what is. Why wasn't les given the chairmans role? He is doing the chairmans job at the moment so where is Ralph? They are clueless.why have these players been allowed to leave before their replacements were signed? If Lallana goes next week I hope his replacement has already signed on the dotted line because otherwise that is just incompetence. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

6:12am Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
"Ronald Koeman officially starts work at Saints next week with a potential £100m war chest at his disposal."

£100m my @rse! Anyone can see what is going on here, the bean-counters are asset-stripping the club. Successful Swiss businessmen don't get rich by being mugs, and Kat Liebherr is no mug.

If Koeman gets to spend anywhere near even £50m I will be amazed.
Have to reluctantly admit that,once again since the end of last glorious season,the silence is ominously deafening,the assurances have proved to be worthless,and all the rumours proved to be frightengly real.
On top of that,I'm just getting a tad cheesed of with"waiting to see".
Come on Saints board,be it good,or be it bad,let's just see some action!
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: "Ronald Koeman officially starts work at Saints next week with a potential £100m war chest at his disposal." £100m my @rse! Anyone can see what is going on here, the bean-counters are asset-stripping the club. Successful Swiss businessmen don't get rich by being mugs, and Kat Liebherr is no mug. If Koeman gets to spend anywhere near even £50m I will be amazed.[/p][/quote]Have to reluctantly admit that,once again since the end of last glorious season,the silence is ominously deafening,the assurances have proved to be worthless,and all the rumours proved to be frightengly real. On top of that,I'm just getting a tad cheesed of with"waiting to see". Come on Saints board,be it good,or be it bad,let's just see some action! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

8:15am Sun 29 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp. Clever Dick
  • Score: 10

8:23am Sun 29 Jun 14

bathsaints says...

see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site!
see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site! bathsaints
  • Score: 0

8:36am Sun 29 Jun 14

Slick Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I think everyone is too precious about the stripes. Personally, it just means we get confused with Sunderland and Stoke. I preferred our 125th anniversary kit. By far the best saints have had rather than the boring stripes.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I think everyone is too precious about the stripes. Personally, it just means we get confused with Sunderland and Stoke. I preferred our 125th anniversary kit. By far the best saints have had rather than the boring stripes. Slick Saint
  • Score: 0

8:42am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Slick Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes!
I think everyone is too precious about the stripes. Personally, it just means we get confused with Sunderland and Stoke. I preferred our 125th anniversary kit. By far the best saints have had rather than the boring stripes.
I've never confused us with Sunderland or Stoke.
[quote][p][bold]Slick Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Still, I expect we'll get our stripes back next season after having them so cruelly taken away by that git Cortese. Oh yes, he can stuff his Champions League ambitions up his arse, all will be well as long as we have our stripes![/p][/quote]I think everyone is too precious about the stripes. Personally, it just means we get confused with Sunderland and Stoke. I preferred our 125th anniversary kit. By far the best saints have had rather than the boring stripes.[/p][/quote]I've never confused us with Sunderland or Stoke. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

8:44am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

bathsaints wrote:
see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site!
That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site![/p][/quote]That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

8:48am Sun 29 Jun 14

Slick Saint says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
SaintMatt97 wrote:
Saints in two/three years:
Marshal
Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker
Cork/wan Spiderlin
JWP(will be class)
J-Rod Sims
Sammy G
Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?
Completely un-ambitious IMO

From what i've seen of Gallagher, he is awful. Plus, if any of our youngsters do end up being any good, clearly they will be sold.

All the board had to do was invest the TV money in 2 - 3 quality signings and stand firm on no players leaving. We had a real opportunity to break into the top 6, now look; laughing stock of the nation yet again, back to the 'little old Southampton, the feeder club' jokes.

Didn't really give a toss about Lambert leaving, was probably going to be a bench player for us next season anyway, Shaw fair enough, replaceable and inevitable. But letting the rest go is just **** right naive, stupid, disgraceful and completely disrespectful to the supporters who have bought into this vision of the Southampton way.
Have to agree. They should have refused the Lala move. Until this club shows back bone and hold the academy players to their contracts we will always be a selling club. It should be made clear when they turn professional. If you sign for us, we are signing you up to reep then investment we have put into you. Kaka was something special and the money we have accepted for him is peanuts to what he was worth to us. Relegation in sight this year if we do not sign up some real talent
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMatt97[/bold] wrote: Saints in two/three years: Marshal Clyne/Chambo turnbull caulker Cork/wan Spiderlin JWP(will be class) J-Rod Sims Sammy G Ambitious, but that looks strong! Could be top 4? Easily top 8/6 IMO! Also, Hesketh, reed, Sinclair, Rowe, seager, Stephens to back up? Thoughts?[/p][/quote]Completely un-ambitious IMO From what i've seen of Gallagher, he is awful. Plus, if any of our youngsters do end up being any good, clearly they will be sold. All the board had to do was invest the TV money in 2 - 3 quality signings and stand firm on no players leaving. We had a real opportunity to break into the top 6, now look; laughing stock of the nation yet again, back to the 'little old Southampton, the feeder club' jokes. Didn't really give a toss about Lambert leaving, was probably going to be a bench player for us next season anyway, Shaw fair enough, replaceable and inevitable. But letting the rest go is just **** right naive, stupid, disgraceful and completely disrespectful to the supporters who have bought into this vision of the Southampton way.[/p][/quote]Have to agree. They should have refused the Lala move. Until this club shows back bone and hold the academy players to their contracts we will always be a selling club. It should be made clear when they turn professional. If you sign for us, we are signing you up to reep then investment we have put into you. Kaka was something special and the money we have accepted for him is peanuts to what he was worth to us. Relegation in sight this year if we do not sign up some real talent Slick Saint
  • Score: -3

8:49am Sun 29 Jun 14

jls217 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintsfan76 wrote:
Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.
My thoughts exactly.

Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit.
You do realise James Rodriguez signed for Monaco last season for 42m
We will never ever be able to compete against the likes of Monaco and I think their average gate is lower than ours. Wonder why?
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: Could we have 2 J Rodriguez playing for us next season? That Columbian looks pretty special.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. Let's draw a line under all this "Oh boo boo we've only got a hundred million quid to spend on players so let's all run around and cack ourselves" and get with the programme. Luke is eminently replaceable, Rickie is a bit past it and for £10m you could easily get a Spaniard as good as Lalz. Apologies for not sounding like a Smiths record stuck on repeat but I refuse to feel all that depressed about this. We've been in a bubble these past five years and have just been given a big dose of reality but it's really not that bad. Let's just deal with it in good spirit.[/p][/quote]You do realise James Rodriguez signed for Monaco last season for 42m[/p][/quote]We will never ever be able to compete against the likes of Monaco and I think their average gate is lower than ours. Wonder why? jls217
  • Score: 0

8:52am Sun 29 Jun 14

jls217 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!![/p][/quote]More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly jls217
  • Score: 0

8:53am Sun 29 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Rising_Son wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site!
That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up.
It has been but don't you think we're in a different era now? Did you read Morgans comments?

I looked on the BBC website just now and it lists all transfers todate in chronological order. 27th June includes Luke from Saints to Man U. 28th June includes Buttner from Man U to Dynamo Moscow. Do you see how they waited to complete the purchase before signing off the sale?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site![/p][/quote]That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up.[/p][/quote]It has been but don't you think we're in a different era now? Did you read Morgans comments? I looked on the BBC website just now and it lists all transfers todate in chronological order. 27th June includes Luke from Saints to Man U. 28th June includes Buttner from Man U to Dynamo Moscow. Do you see how they waited to complete the purchase before signing off the sale? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: -1

8:59am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site!
That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up.
It has been but don't you think we're in a different era now? Did you read Morgans comments?

I looked on the BBC website just now and it lists all transfers todate in chronological order. 27th June includes Luke from Saints to Man U. 28th June includes Buttner from Man U to Dynamo Moscow. Do you see how they waited to complete the purchase before signing off the sale?
I am as worried as you.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: see morgan is off to arsenal in todays latest 'who is leaving saints' digest on the bbc sport site![/p][/quote]That has been being said for several years now. Do try to keep up.[/p][/quote]It has been but don't you think we're in a different era now? Did you read Morgans comments? I looked on the BBC website just now and it lists all transfers todate in chronological order. 27th June includes Luke from Saints to Man U. 28th June includes Buttner from Man U to Dynamo Moscow. Do you see how they waited to complete the purchase before signing off the sale?[/p][/quote]I am as worried as you. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:01am Sun 29 Jun 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Any news on this world class goalkeeping coach yet ?
Any news on this world class goalkeeping coach yet ? SodburySaint93
  • Score: 0

9:02am Sun 29 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

TGodSFC wrote:
isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
Are you suggesting that we increase immigration?
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!![/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that we increase immigration? Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

9:07am Sun 29 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp.
Love it. I wonder if Koeman and co realizing there is a cancer eating away at the heart of the club has decided to rid himself quickly of the Adkins/Pinchatinny/N
C influences and said he would prefer to build this project in his own style and with his own men and is quite happy to just get top whack for anyone who is voicing any sort of discontent? Would you want to run the risk of a Lallana or Shaw running around at the centre of your team dripping bile and negativity at everything you do? I'm willing to leave all judgement of what has happened in the past to the doom and glood merchants. I'll leave all judgement of what is currently happening to the crystal ball gazers - cos I haven't a clue what's happening. I'll leave all fortune tellers to dwell on the future ' cos nothing I say or hope for will make any difference whatsoever - there is a team in place on handsome wages to forge that future, I will merely sit and enjoy or enjoy critisizing what is served up in front me on a freezing afternoon in January - because that's the only thing I can do. It's in my blood and I have no more control over it than I have to pish when I've drunk too much. Saints is my affliction and addiction all in one.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp.[/p][/quote]Love it. I wonder if Koeman and co realizing there is a cancer eating away at the heart of the club has decided to rid himself quickly of the Adkins/Pinchatinny/N C influences and said he would prefer to build this project in his own style and with his own men and is quite happy to just get top whack for anyone who is voicing any sort of discontent? Would you want to run the risk of a Lallana or Shaw running around at the centre of your team dripping bile and negativity at everything you do? I'm willing to leave all judgement of what has happened in the past to the doom and glood merchants. I'll leave all judgement of what is currently happening to the crystal ball gazers - cos I haven't a clue what's happening. I'll leave all fortune tellers to dwell on the future ' cos nothing I say or hope for will make any difference whatsoever - there is a team in place on handsome wages to forge that future, I will merely sit and enjoy or enjoy critisizing what is served up in front me on a freezing afternoon in January - because that's the only thing I can do. It's in my blood and I have no more control over it than I have to pish when I've drunk too much. Saints is my affliction and addiction all in one. jls217
  • Score: 7

9:21am Sun 29 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

jls217 wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly
Mainly Guly though!
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!![/p][/quote]More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly[/p][/quote]Mainly Guly though! Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

9:43am Sun 29 Jun 14

miltonarcher says...

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion. Really fear for us this season.
It's like watching a car crash in slow motion. Really fear for us this season. miltonarcher
  • Score: -1

10:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
jls217 wrote:
TGodSFC wrote:
isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly
Mainly Guly though!
Its all gone downhill since guly was allowed to leave!
Its like the ravens leaving the tower of London or the apes leaving Gibraltar!
Oh how some of you booed him and wanted him out, you got what you wanted and look what you've done! I hope your happy with yourselves!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!![/p][/quote]More emotional and less logical too mate. I blame Jeremy Kyle and Guly[/p][/quote]Mainly Guly though![/p][/quote]Its all gone downhill since guly was allowed to leave! Its like the ravens leaving the tower of London or the apes leaving Gibraltar! Oh how some of you booed him and wanted him out, you got what you wanted and look what you've done! I hope your happy with yourselves!!!!!! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

10:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

durhamsaint87 says...

Like all good artist's a blank canvass can become a master piece.
Like all good artist's a blank canvass can become a master piece. durhamsaint87
  • Score: 1

10:17am Sun 29 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Bring in new player then sell your player
Bring in new player then sell your player Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 0

10:41am Sun 29 Jun 14

warrens 76 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality .

Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting…

…learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure?

Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now…

I am seriously pi55ed off...
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality . Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting… …learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure? Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now… I am seriously pi55ed off... warrens 76
  • Score: 2

10:42am Sun 29 Jun 14

Block 42 says...

TGodSFC wrote:
isolated saint wrote:
Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell
What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly.
KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!!
Haaaaaa!!!thanks for pointing this out..some people are so fricking retarded its untrue.
[quote][p][bold]TGodSFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]isolated saint[/bold] wrote: Word coming from the Koeman camp is they were not told of the sales and had been working on adding to our squad. There will be four other departures soon. KL is asset stripping prior to a sale later this year, NC knows it hence his recent digs at the club. Time will tell[/p][/quote]What's your source for this? Sounds like you're making it up honestly. KL is worth 9Billion,you know this I'm guessing. You don't make that kind of money with poor business skills. People claiming the sell of players is asset striping are so dumb, you don't strip a business of its strongest asset before a sale of the company, due to the mass decrease in value of the overall company. If you're looking for a takeover bid you market your business to potential buyers with key assets in place otherwise its not a very marketable business and therefore worth less. I swear the English population is getting stupider every decad!!!!![/p][/quote]Haaaaaa!!!thanks for pointing this out..some people are so fricking retarded its untrue. Block 42
  • Score: 1

11:02am Sun 29 Jun 14

mack chinnon says...

On a positive note. At least we dont have to listen to thatTwat Hansen next season.
On a positive note. At least we dont have to listen to thatTwat Hansen next season. mack chinnon
  • Score: 0

11:12am Sun 29 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Sky sports - Sammy lee has rejected Brighton and is coming to Saints to work under Koeman.
Not a bad addition for Saints. Lot's of experience.
COYR
Sky sports - Sammy lee has rejected Brighton and is coming to Saints to work under Koeman. Not a bad addition for Saints. Lot's of experience. COYR J7junctionseven
  • Score: 0

11:13am Sun 29 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Clever Dick wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp.
That would appear to be the sum of it,in a nutshell.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]I've read some bo11ox on this site over the recent past but I'm undecided whether the post from Isolated Saint or Saintmac are the most ridiculous. So if these contributors are to be believed KL has sat down with the players and told them that the club has no ambition at all and wants to just avoid relegation over the next 2 seasons with a side full of average players. I'd imagine then that every single player has put in a written transfer request. So we can expect every one of them to be leaving. Oh and to make things worse we have spent weeks trawling around looking for a top class manager but forgot to mention to him that by the time he starts work he won'thave any players to work with. So I'd imagine we can also expect his resignaion on the day he starts. Afer all he's going to look pretty stupid turning up for training when we don't have any players. I find myself wondering why KL has decided to sell an assetless club worth nothing in two years time when she could actually sell it now for around £300million . That would be a lot less trouble wouldn't it. But then what do I know. I bow to their obviously far greater knowledge to the inside workings of the club and their knowledge of the inner thoughts of the Koeman camp.[/p][/quote]That would appear to be the sum of it,in a nutshell. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

11:14am Sun 29 Jun 14

J7junctionseven says...

Brighton are seriously p1ssed off about it . terms etc had been agreed and he was apparently due to go there tomorrow morning to start work.
"Bummer"....literall
y!!
COYR
Brighton are seriously p1ssed off about it . terms etc had been agreed and he was apparently due to go there tomorrow morning to start work. "Bummer"....literall y!! COYR J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

11:26am Sun 29 Jun 14

warrens 76 says...

J7junctionseven wrote:
Brighton are seriously p1ssed off about it . terms etc had been agreed and he was apparently due to go there tomorrow morning to start work.
"Bummer"....lit
erall
y!!
COYR
Just the loyalty we are looking for..not.
[quote][p][bold]J7junctionseven[/bold] wrote: Brighton are seriously p1ssed off about it . terms etc had been agreed and he was apparently due to go there tomorrow morning to start work. "Bummer"....lit erall y!! COYR[/p][/quote]Just the loyalty we are looking for..not. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

11:37am Sun 29 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
At last! Someone on here talking sense. I,ve been saying for weeks this is what is going on.Sell the best players, play the "kids" next season,get relegated and then sell the club with all it,s assets gone.
[quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]At last! Someone on here talking sense. I,ve been saying for weeks this is what is going on.Sell the best players, play the "kids" next season,get relegated and then sell the club with all it,s assets gone. echo1948
  • Score: -5

12:54pm Sun 29 Jun 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality .

Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting…

…learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure?

Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now…

I am seriously pi55ed off...
so what your saying is then that if I leave England and have a child in wales my child will be nothing like me and have none of my `traits`. she will be, in affect, as welsh as a person whos family have been welsh for centuries.
ralph is not just an `ice hockey` coach, he has done more than that in that game, he is also a member of the world economic forum, he didn`t get on that forum by being just an effing `ice hockey coach`!
les reed is not an expert he is bl00dy useless? have you been saying that same thing over the last 4yrs? the very same 4yrs that he has been doing virtually the same job! of course you haven't. NC appointed les reed so are you saying he got that wrong? surely the great and wonderful NC didnt get it wrong did he? the difference now is that the club have become more open and we are hearing a lot more from them, despite the so called `wall of silence`. ask yourself this, did we ever hear from les whilst NC was in charge? and come to think of it, how many times did we hear from NC? he did selective interviews when things were going right, did he come out straight after he sacked NA? no he waited until MP started getting a few results and then did a very selective interview with sky, he even took them out to spain to do it. who paid for that?
I haven't heard about the scout leaving so cant comment but I will ask how long he has been at saints?
yes we have sacked 2 youth coaches, we do have a lot more though, and we don't know why they were sacked. unless we do we cant pass judgement on that decision!
NC left of his own will, as did MP. we have sold some players but for a hell of a lot of money. not that I am happy they are gone though!
you don't think that appointing a highly regarded manager is a positive move? oh no wait it cant be because he`s dutch and the last pair were awful so this one must be as well! by that logic we should only appoint managers from Gateshead, Big Mac was our most successful manager so we should do well with anyone else from there!
without the `get out clause` this debacle would have happened in January instead of now? really so its not the new boards fault then is it, they weren't put in place until march! what you are saying there is that MP and the players would have gone anyway and nothing could have stopped it!
I do agree that MP would have left in jan, when NC did, if he had found a club willing to pay the £2mill `fine` he had to pay for quitting.
I`m not happy with whats going on either but I can see past blaming the board and owner for things that they had no control over. mp just used us as a stepping stone, the players saw a little bit of the England `magic` and wanted to be just like the other players. did they want to stay and earna European place? no they just want instant glory without the hard work!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality . Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting… …learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure? Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now… I am seriously pi55ed off...[/p][/quote]so what your saying is then that if I leave England and have a child in wales my child will be nothing like me and have none of my `traits`. she will be, in affect, as welsh as a person whos family have been welsh for centuries. ralph is not just an `ice hockey` coach, he has done more than that in that game, he is also a member of the world economic forum, he didn`t get on that forum by being just an effing `ice hockey coach`! les reed is not an expert he is bl00dy useless? have you been saying that same thing over the last 4yrs? the very same 4yrs that he has been doing virtually the same job! of course you haven't. NC appointed les reed so are you saying he got that wrong? surely the great and wonderful NC didnt get it wrong did he? the difference now is that the club have become more open and we are hearing a lot more from them, despite the so called `wall of silence`. ask yourself this, did we ever hear from les whilst NC was in charge? and come to think of it, how many times did we hear from NC? he did selective interviews when things were going right, did he come out straight after he sacked NA? no he waited until MP started getting a few results and then did a very selective interview with sky, he even took them out to spain to do it. who paid for that? I haven't heard about the scout leaving so cant comment but I will ask how long he has been at saints? yes we have sacked 2 youth coaches, we do have a lot more though, and we don't know why they were sacked. unless we do we cant pass judgement on that decision! NC left of his own will, as did MP. we have sold some players but for a hell of a lot of money. not that I am happy they are gone though! you don't think that appointing a highly regarded manager is a positive move? oh no wait it cant be because he`s dutch and the last pair were awful so this one must be as well! by that logic we should only appoint managers from Gateshead, Big Mac was our most successful manager so we should do well with anyone else from there! without the `get out clause` this debacle would have happened in January instead of now? really so its not the new boards fault then is it, they weren't put in place until march! what you are saying there is that MP and the players would have gone anyway and nothing could have stopped it! I do agree that MP would have left in jan, when NC did, if he had found a club willing to pay the £2mill `fine` he had to pay for quitting. I`m not happy with whats going on either but I can see past blaming the board and owner for things that they had no control over. mp just used us as a stepping stone, the players saw a little bit of the England `magic` and wanted to be just like the other players. did they want to stay and earna European place? no they just want instant glory without the hard work! de Heiligen paard 101
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1:16pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

the theorycrafting in this thread is amazing
the theorycrafting in this thread is amazing Stroppy_gramps
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8:05am Tue 1 Jul 14

saintray says...

OSPREYSAINT WHERE ARE YOU COME ON LETS BE HAVING YOU ?
OSPREYSAINT WHERE ARE YOU COME ON LETS BE HAVING YOU ? saintray
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9:01am Tue 1 Jul 14

Saint Jinx says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
St Van Roetford wrote:
saintmac wrote:
The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem.
Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner.
This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.
Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.
oh come on stret get with the plan will you!
don't you see it makes perfect sense.
she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago.
she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset.
this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir!
its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret?
a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there!
all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby.
you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions.
as i said, get with the programme stret!
Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality .

Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting…

…learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure?

Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now…

I am seriously pi55ed off...
so what your saying is then that if I leave England and have a child in wales my child will be nothing like me and have none of my `traits`. she will be, in affect, as welsh as a person whos family have been welsh for centuries.
ralph is not just an `ice hockey` coach, he has done more than that in that game, he is also a member of the world economic forum, he didn`t get on that forum by being just an effing `ice hockey coach`!
les reed is not an expert he is bl00dy useless? have you been saying that same thing over the last 4yrs? the very same 4yrs that he has been doing virtually the same job! of course you haven't. NC appointed les reed so are you saying he got that wrong? surely the great and wonderful NC didnt get it wrong did he? the difference now is that the club have become more open and we are hearing a lot more from them, despite the so called `wall of silence`. ask yourself this, did we ever hear from les whilst NC was in charge? and come to think of it, how many times did we hear from NC? he did selective interviews when things were going right, did he come out straight after he sacked NA? no he waited until MP started getting a few results and then did a very selective interview with sky, he even took them out to spain to do it. who paid for that?
I haven't heard about the scout leaving so cant comment but I will ask how long he has been at saints?
yes we have sacked 2 youth coaches, we do have a lot more though, and we don't know why they were sacked. unless we do we cant pass judgement on that decision!
NC left of his own will, as did MP. we have sold some players but for a hell of a lot of money. not that I am happy they are gone though!
you don't think that appointing a highly regarded manager is a positive move? oh no wait it cant be because he`s dutch and the last pair were awful so this one must be as well! by that logic we should only appoint managers from Gateshead, Big Mac was our most successful manager so we should do well with anyone else from there!
without the `get out clause` this debacle would have happened in January instead of now? really so its not the new boards fault then is it, they weren't put in place until march! what you are saying there is that MP and the players would have gone anyway and nothing could have stopped it!
I do agree that MP would have left in jan, when NC did, if he had found a club willing to pay the £2mill `fine` he had to pay for quitting.
I`m not happy with whats going on either but I can see past blaming the board and owner for things that they had no control over. mp just used us as a stepping stone, the players saw a little bit of the England `magic` and wanted to be just like the other players. did they want to stay and earna European place? no they just want instant glory without the hard work!
Well said. It's the immaturity of AL, MP and others. The World Cup certainly did us no favours. They were all impatient and had their heads turned by illusions of instant glory. I am sure, though, that AL and LS feel a pain of sadness and guilt in the pit of their stomach.

On the bright side, I cannot believe that KL would abandon all of the passion her father had for his hobby.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Van Roetford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintmac[/bold] wrote: The Board are only in place until the Club is sold within the next 2 years .A few half decent payers will be purchased to keep us in the bottom half of the Prem. Sadly others will leave as they can see there is no ambition from the owner. This is why MP,LS and AL left. They were happy till the new order took over and the reason why no big names will be signed.[/p][/quote]Totally right. That sounds like an excellent way of really bumping up the price of the club. I'm sure that's exactly what they're doing.[/p][/quote]oh come on stret get with the plan will you! don't you see it makes perfect sense. she is sooooo worried about a couple of million quid that she waited until she appointed a new manager, probably on a few million a year, to sell a couple of players for a bit more than she would have got a couple of weeks ago. she is sooo desperate to sell the club that she is going to wait a couple of years and in the meantime she is going to reduce the value of her asset drastically by selling all the decent players and risk relegation, further reducing the value of her asset. this feels like the work of a desperate multi-billionairess who despite having a father with a brilliant business brain must never have spoken to him about business, a father so clever that he never past on any of his wisdom to his sole heir! its so simple it might just work, why cant you see that stret? a multi-billionaire is just trying to make a return on her fathers investment by trying to save a few million here and there! all the time lurking in the background is NC waiting to ride in on his white stallion to save `his` baby. you see he always said that he had backers in place to buy the club if ML wanted to sell. so to get the best value for `his` baby he decided to quit, despite knowing KL`s master plan, and thought he could reduce the value of the club better by not being on the inside making the decisions. as i said, get with the programme stret![/p][/quote]Swiss are NOT adventurous believe me I live here…they are superb at penny pinching and cartels, creative they a'int, remember Marcus was German, his daughter is Swiss a completely different mentality . Absolutely everything points to a fire sale, nothing and I mean nothing since NC left suggests any ambition, we suffered terribly at the hands of Lowe he knew nothing about football and tried to bring in Rugby experts a new coaching method all were found wanting… …learning nothing from our history that led to ML buying the club for pennies the new board is repeating all the errors, we appoint a Ucfing Ice hockey coach who only takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to replace it with the other one….Les Reed is not the expert he is 8loody useless, the scout responsible for our greatest academy players is now at Fulham, our youth coaches all gone, our supremely successful Chairman NC, our manager our best players have gone or are going, they have even imported a Dutch coach remember last time, christ on a bike are they determined to follow the last blueprint to failure? Seriously can someone, anyone tell me anything this board have done that is positive? in fact without NC inserting MoPo's costly get out clausethis debacle could have happened when he left instead of now… I am seriously pi55ed off...[/p][/quote]so what your saying is then that if I leave England and have a child in wales my child will be nothing like me and have none of my `traits`. she will be, in affect, as welsh as a person whos family have been welsh for centuries. ralph is not just an `ice hockey` coach, he has done more than that in that game, he is also a member of the world economic forum, he didn`t get on that forum by being just an effing `ice hockey coach`! les reed is not an expert he is bl00dy useless? have you been saying that same thing over the last 4yrs? the very same 4yrs that he has been doing virtually the same job! of course you haven't. NC appointed les reed so are you saying he got that wrong? surely the great and wonderful NC didnt get it wrong did he? the difference now is that the club have become more open and we are hearing a lot more from them, despite the so called `wall of silence`. ask yourself this, did we ever hear from les whilst NC was in charge? and come to think of it, how many times did we hear from NC? he did selective interviews when things were going right, did he come out straight after he sacked NA? no he waited until MP started getting a few results and then did a very selective interview with sky, he even took them out to spain to do it. who paid for that? I haven't heard about the scout leaving so cant comment but I will ask how long he has been at saints? yes we have sacked 2 youth coaches, we do have a lot more though, and we don't know why they were sacked. unless we do we cant pass judgement on that decision! NC left of his own will, as did MP. we have sold some players but for a hell of a lot of money. not that I am happy they are gone though! you don't think that appointing a highly regarded manager is a positive move? oh no wait it cant be because he`s dutch and the last pair were awful so this one must be as well! by that logic we should only appoint managers from Gateshead, Big Mac was our most successful manager so we should do well with anyone else from there! without the `get out clause` this debacle would have happened in January instead of now? really so its not the new boards fault then is it, they weren't put in place until march! what you are saying there is that MP and the players would have gone anyway and nothing could have stopped it! I do agree that MP would have left in jan, when NC did, if he had found a club willing to pay the £2mill `fine` he had to pay for quitting. I`m not happy with whats going on either but I can see past blaming the board and owner for things that they had no control over. mp just used us as a stepping stone, the players saw a little bit of the England `magic` and wanted to be just like the other players. did they want to stay and earna European place? no they just want instant glory without the hard work![/p][/quote]Well said. It's the immaturity of AL, MP and others. The World Cup certainly did us no favours. They were all impatient and had their heads turned by illusions of instant glory. I am sure, though, that AL and LS feel a pain of sadness and guilt in the pit of their stomach. On the bright side, I cannot believe that KL would abandon all of the passion her father had for his hobby. Saint Jinx
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3:44pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Beer Monster says...

saintray wrote:
OSPREYSAINT WHERE ARE YOU COME ON LETS BE HAVING YOU ?
I've only just managed to get through this thread now... Some good points made. Onto the next one...
[quote][p][bold]saintray[/bold] wrote: OSPREYSAINT WHERE ARE YOU COME ON LETS BE HAVING YOU ?[/p][/quote]I've only just managed to get through this thread now... Some good points made. Onto the next one... Beer Monster
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