Roll up roll up the Rupert Lowe Big Top is in town.

Why do I think this thing about Poortvliet paying his own compensation is just a PR stunt by RL? My guess is that Saints have agreed that at some stage they will pay him some sort of bonus equal to what he has to pay out, so in effect Saints pay the compensation.

Maybe I am just being too cynical and he really has agreed to pay to come here, in which case, you have to give him credit for that but also question the man's sanity ??!!

Having been really disappointed by NP's departure, I am now trying to look forward and decide whether I am optimistic or pessimistic about the coming season.

Any thoughts on when the cull will be announced on those out of contract...??

Agree with Cynical Soul. Saints are bound to end up paying this compensation back to Poortvliet at some stage. Knowing Rupert, it will be part of the compensation package he pays to Poortvliet when he sacks him in October !!

Rupert - the club needs to move on with preparations for the season. Pay the wretched money to his current club and let's move on. You personally need to start with a low profile and hope that results go your way in the early part of the seaon or this club will implode. At that point, having a committee runnng the club rather than a manager will come back to haunt you. I expect your reponse will be that you and Michael Wilse are in charge. I'm not sure the players or the paying customers of this business would agree. The most successful clubs have continuity, a good youth policy and a strong and talented manager who is ultimately responsible for 1st team results.

I admire your strategy - but it strikes me that you wouldn't choose to start from here.

I fear Christmas will not be a happy place in the Lowe household.

On the other hand I could be wrong

Good luck

It's good to see what is going on with next seasons opponents -who they are selling, who they are buying etc. Our head coach (and I presume the man to sort out such trivia) does not even take up his position for another two weeks or so (if at all!) Looks like we will be entering the Championship race from a different starting line to everyone else! Thanks Rupert -you tool!

Such a silly way to start of Rupert's second stint. Can this idiot get anything right. I still think he should have kept NP on board.

If this new 'dutch youth system' policy works the way they're saying it will, it will be the world's greatest cash cow for Rupes.

SAINTS RIP

Cant we give them JW and JE as compensation?

Alpine Saint wrote:
Cant we give them JW and JE as compensation?

don't be daft, we'd have to pay them even more to take on that bunch of sh*te

Lowe Out

How totally unbelievable is this whole sorry saga?! OK fine, if the board think the way to take Saints forward is to appoint a new manager, let's do it properly and professionally. To announce it to the world before contracts have been signed really doesn't fill me with the confidence that RL knows what he's doing in the real business world! This surely is fundamental.

This had better be worth the hassle...

Don't be too hard on Lowe. He'll come through this. My reason for thinking this is based on how he describes himself on Saints websight under Investors...."KNOWN FOR HIS STRAIGHTFORWARD BUSINESS MANNER AND ASTUTE BUSINESS ACUMEN"??!!.
I guess not mentioning his EXTREME MODESTY was merely an oversight.

The good thing about the 'continental' system we are adopting is how seamless the transition has been......

What is all the fuss? Where's the fire?!!
The guy is not due to start until 23rd June. If you read this article correctly, either way, it is a done deal.

Heard it mentioned on Talksport last night that Helmond's representative received the compensation offer from SFC - NOT Poortvliet -

COME ON ECHO, FIND OUT THE TRUTH - WHO'S TELLING LIES THEN?

HELMOND SPORT OR RUPES' SFC SPIN MACHINE???

Cynical soul wrote:
Why do I think this thing about Poortvliet paying his own compensation is just a PR stunt by RL? My guess is that Saints have agreed that at some stage they will pay him some sort of bonus equal to what he has to pay out, so in effect Saints pay the compensation. Maybe I am just being too cynical and he really has agreed to pay to come here, in which case, you have to give him credit for that but also question the man\'s sanity ??!! Having been really disappointed by NP\'s departure, I am now trying to look forward and decide whether I am optimistic or pessimistic about the coming season. Any thoughts on when the cull will be announced on those out of contract...??

Agreed that it's a cynical view but I've no doubt it's true. Lowe wouldn't want to be seen to be paying off another club when we had limited funds so he'd sweeten the new manager's contract and agree terms that he broke the existing deal himself. It's a PR stunt but one that most chairman in his position would pull.

Who do we think is making these decisions within the St Marys executive?? I can't see Lowe and his hockey pals having any idea who these dutch blokes were. Similarly, Wilde won't have this kind of in depth knowledge of lower league european football managers and coaches. Someone else must be calling the shots - don't you think???

Repetitive moan, moan, moan is all we hear from the "Lowe out" retards to whatever is the current topic concerning Saints, like a single-minded dog obsessed with a bone.

These bores must be a great laugh at a party!

Wilson wrote:
Repetitive moan, moan, moan is all we hear from the "Lowe out" retards to whatever is the current topic concerning Saints, like a single-minded dog obsessed with a bone. These bores must be a great laugh at a party!

Come on, take the blinkers off for a second.

Most reasonable Saints fans were willing to cut Lowe some slack HOWEVER in his first big decision he has made a complete pigs ear of it.

With the compensation issue paramount the reasoning for bringing in the Dutch Team over Pearson has already been blown out of the water.

Financial Constraints? Don't make me laugh - the country is laughing at us again - we can't even poach a manager correctly from a two-bit Dutch Side.

And to think some of the Pro-Lowe's thought Crouch was an amateur.

What are Wilde's thoughts? Nobody knows because he's just a name on a bit of paper with no authority.

Wonder must Rupert's colleagues at WH Ireland think of the successful management of SFC?

More Saintly than our New Board wrote:
Heard it mentioned on Talksport last night that Helmond\'s representative received the compensation offer from SFC - NOT Poortvliet - COME ON ECHO, FIND OUT THE TRUTH - WHO\'S TELLING LIES THEN? HELMOND SPORT OR RUPES\' SFC SPIN MACHINE???

More Saintly, that comment came from a chap from Gosport, me infact. Helmond have been offered 30,000 euro by Saints. This quote came from their sporting director, although he did not mention the amount in his interview last night. To be fair I'm not sure whether it was RL or JP himself. What i do know, its lightly to cost alot more than that and could drag on and on. Well after the new season has started. It looks like it will go to the Dutch FA to look at. I just can't see it being settled quickly, unless SFC (LR or JP) offer big money.

If you anti Lowe brigade are true saints fans do you think for once you could grit your teeth bite your tongue and actually get behind and support everything saints. And that includes Lowe.If in 6 months or a years time you are proved right then you can shove two fingers up at the likes of myself however if you are wrong then that means saints will have done well and so will Lowe.
Thanx for your time
from sean (a very rare Lowe fan)

bold]What is all the fuss? Where's the fire?!!
The guy is not due to start until 23rd June. If you read this article correctly, either way, it is a done deal.
The fuss is that this whole saga was all based on a requirement to save money. The businessman said that he could bring this man in and he would pay his own compensation deal. This initial compensation offer was rejected (no Surprises there) so we have to wait and see if the compo cost is going to exceed Jan's means. If it does then SFC are going to have to stump up the money, or face the embarrasment of having to back down on last weeks big claim to have a new manager in. WIll this compensation then make the sacking of Pearson (a purely financial move) redundant?

In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out. The Official Saints website is full of news. Stern John played against England. Paddy Power are betting on Euro 2008(!!!), and the biggest name coming to SMS is Jon Bon Jovi. I can see why saints fans are getting annoyed.
Why wait until the season has started before preparing? Oh yes, and you can buy the new saints shirt (one season only) for 40 notes.

sean wrote:
If you anti Lowe brigade are true saints fans do you think for once you could grit your teeth bite your tongue and actually get behind and support everything saints. And that includes Lowe.If in 6 months or a years time you are proved right then you can shove two fingers up at the likes of myself however if you are wrong then that means saints will have done well and so will Lowe. Thanx for your time from sean (a very rare Lowe fan)

Once bitten twice shy

He will pay. He is desperate. I mean Southampton is a small club, but it is not on a par with the mighty Helmond Sport....yet

Repetitive moan, moan, moan is all we hear from the "Lowe out" retards
I'm not a retard . I'm trying to be objective. Lowe came back in (huge spin on the OS about the majority, but he was very clever with his words, wasn't he?)His (Sorry, should have been Wilde's job as Football man) first job was to sort out the managerial post. The ideal solution was found surprisingly quickly (makes you think that the discussions had started before the EGM was called)Except that Jan Van Dutch is already contracted for another year to another club. THe initial compensation claim has been rejected, and I see somebody ending up paying through the nose. I wonder who that would be. As we trundle on towards the 23rd June, the figure that Helmond are likely to accept will increase. That's business!!In the meantime, the club themselves have been quiet (it's called leaving the fans in the dark)prompting an endless supply of rumours. The club is doing nothing to allay the fears of the fans, at the moment, and then we have people complaining that the fans are disgruntled. Are you surprised? Lowe should have learned to stay out of the football side of things. Wilde should be more prominent (look like he's in charge) The club should keep the fans informed.

I spoke with the enemy last night, and she agreed with me. She has the season tickets, but there will be NO new shirts this year. NO other merchandise. No money over the bar until the club starts to show that it is anyhting more than a mockery. If the results on hte pitch start well, then I will open my wallet, but not before. I think that's fair and objective. To be a moron, I would have to blindly hand over the cash to a board that couldn't get their first high profile decision right.

Lowe Out!! Nobody should turn up to watch games.

If your a ture fan you will NOT go and watch the team.

Listen on Radio Solent do give this idiot your money.

George wrote:
What is all the fuss? Where\'s the fire?!! The guy is not due to start until 23rd June. If you read this article correctly, either way, it is a done deal.

but even if the bungling of the contract is finally sorted out , WHY isnt he due to start till 23rd June.?
many other championship clubs with managers who are vastly experienced in this division are already buying and selling players . meanwhile SFC have appointed a new head coach with no experience whatsoever in english football , who is supposed to be introducing a compeletly new style of play and 'revolutionary' coaching methods. but its ok - there's no rush -for some reason that escapes me there's no need for him to start work until near the end of the month , about 6 or 7 weeks before the first league fixture.

typical SFC and just the sort of poor preparation or complacency that got us relegated before.

Lets all play a game. To all those people who call themselves "Lowe out" or "Lowe's a big cheese" or "I hate Lowe". Fine. We've all got the message and everyone realises that AT LEAST 50% of the supporters can't stand Lowe.

However, I always go for the positive as the negative will always be destructive.

Could those wanting to hang Lowe from the yardarm please remind us of the 2/3 individuals waiting in line to take his place.

I would like to see a reasonable statement on who they are and how much money they are prepared to bring into the Club. I would like details of their experience in football and how much the Club means to them.

So, please what is the first name that we have in mind and why has he been hiding himself away when the Club needs him so badly.

Given the right name, the right money, the right love of the game and the right love of SFC I have no doubt that 99.99% of current and despairing ex-fans would drop their support for Lowe in an instant. I certainly would.

In the meantime, he is what we've got. The choice is yours and mine.

Support the Club or walk away. Free will and all that.

David,

Romsey

Lads, lads, guys and girls, lets put this in perspective....could the situation not be worst than this current saga?

Imagine........Ruper
t walks out onto the pitch for a photo shoot, then to our amazement out walks John Terry and Fernando Torres, wow, we all gasp in absolute shock and amazement. Two days later it appears that neither of these players contract are up and the photoshoot was a wee bit premature by our RL with neither player being released.

My point to you all? Don't be disheartened with the way our poor old chairmen are running our club, things could be worst!!!! LoL

Always look on the brightside, i mean how the fxck did anyone with an ounce of savvy mess up on something so simple. Agreed with those points who argue that we will never know the cost of the true settlement for this megga manager.

If Rupert wanted to win over some of his detractors surely ensuring that the deal for his new manager was all above board, agreed to by the current employer and nothing could be done to stop it would have been the very least he should have done before holding a press conference. For a man with so much self-declared business acumen this is surely a very basic and embarrassing mistake to make (no Apprentice victor he) that does not help his cause.

However, regardless of this foul-up we should all wait to see what happens in the season before passing judgement on whether this new approach will work. A comment on here the other day stated that there is no point making the same mistakes over and over again if they don't work; if we as a club are going to find a new sense of identity and vigour, without having any more money, then the whole approach to putting a team together has to change. Let's see what happens in the Autumn.

sean wrote:
If you anti Lowe brigade are true saints fans do you think for once you could grit your teeth bite your tongue and actually get behind and support everything saints. And that includes Lowe.If in 6 months or a years time you are proved right then you can shove two fingers up at the likes of myself however if you are wrong then that means saints will have done well and so will Lowe. Thanx for your time from sean (a very rare Lowe fan)

Did you cut the same slack for Crouch and Co?
Surely after ten years or so of Lowe we have tried, Have we not been here before?

Rupert Lowe wrote:
Lowe Out!! Nobody should turn up to watch games. If your a ture fan you will NOT go and watch the team. Listen on Radio Solent do give this idiot your money.

Then the true fans would send the club into administration for sure , DOUGHNUT.

This smacks of a reverse Hoddle situation. I seem to remember Lowe being indignant about that, but I suppose it's different when the boot is on the other foot!

From what I understand, rather than bring in lots of experience, we are now developing our academy players to help us stay/get out of this division. Haven't we learned from previous experience that if we bring forward young players too quickly that we do not get any lasting benefit. The ones that are developing into good players get snapped up by the big clubs and all we get is compensation, or future payments.

I guess another break of inactivity is on the cards. With no manager/coach officially in place Lowe will be involved in getting players in at "bargain basement" prices. Look forward to another bunch of crocked Delgados and relations. No early moves and team/squad building here. Let's hope that we have not got Crystal Palace in the first match.

One question that hasn't reared its head in all of this fiasco.

Do SFC have a lawyer who is supposed to check all contracts, pre-contracts, arrangements, pre-arrangements, nuptials, pre-nuptials severances and pre-severances. Whrer was he/she when all this was going on? DId that person get paid this month? If I'd f***ed up to this degree with my job, I'd only be stopping to pick up my P45 on hte way out.

Wilson wrote:
Repetitive moan, moan, moan is all we hear from the \\\"Lowe out\\\" retards to whatever is the current topic concerning Saints, like a single-minded dog obsessed with a bone. These bores must be a great laugh at a party!

Cheers us up and say something positive about how great things are then. Or does your optimism not go as far to find anything positive with the current situation?

"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out."

That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post!
Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing!

Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will.

Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I've never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies"!!

George wrote:
"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out."

That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post!
Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing!

Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will.

Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I've never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies"!!

'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe'.

Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn't deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension.

People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

the great Dave Watson wrote:

Rupert Lowe wrote:
Lowe Out!! Nobody should turn up to watch games. If your a ture fan you will NOT go and watch the team. Listen on Radio Solent do give this idiot your money.

Then the true fans would send the club into administration for sure , DOUGHNUT.

If administration mant spending the next 10 years in the lower leagues without Lowe, as opposed to spending the next 10 years in the lower leagues with Lowe = success.

Bring on administration, can't happen soon enough. Every £ you withhold from this tin pot PLC brings us closer to seeing the back of Lowe.

LOWE OUT

sean wrote:
If you anti Lowe brigade are true saints fans do you think for once you could grit your teeth bite your tongue and actually get behind and support everything saints. And that includes Lowe.If in 6 months or a years time you are proved right then you can shove two fingers up at the likes of myself however if you are wrong then that means saints will have done well and so will Lowe. Thanx for your time from sean (a very rare Lowe fan)

I hope and pray that I am proved wrong because as you say it will mean that our beloved club is succesful again.
My concern is Lowe has been back 2 Weeks and has already caused considerable embarrasment, blamed all and sundry for our plight but not once taking any blame himself. Also taking a salary despite our plight, ( which Crouch did not ), and just his general arrogance that he is Mr Southampton.
If he talks to the paying customers and introduces a little transparancy to what is happening then maybe your request might be given some thought.

Swing Lowe, Swing Rupert Lowe,swing him from the Itchen Bridge....

Swing Lowe,swing Rupert Lowe,swing him from the Itchen Bridge...

cant wait to start singing that song again!!!!

LOWE OUT

Well, subsequent posts managed to confirm my views about the moaning anti Lowites.

It's more like hate and if that's an emotion you enjoy well, go right ahead.............

IMHO
Lowe had 10 Years of tinkering and experimenting with our club, and has started where he left off.
Wilde and Crouch were frustrated with this and forced Lowe out because we were going nowhere.
They went for it with a big gamble in 2006-7 which nearly paid off with a near miss in the playoffs. Ok this did not pay off.
Wilde bottled it and ran away leaving Crouch in the brown stuff. Crouch tried his best but the gamble of the previous season was irreversable.
Wilde teams up with his old foe and they breaze back in with swagger and **** it up again.
Thanks for having balls Crouch, it didnt work but at least you gave it a go.
Conclusion - Were in deep doo doo.

"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out."

That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post!
Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing!

Read the BBC transfer listing pal... This is less than half the transfers over the last 4 weeks. I took out the Prem/Scottish/ League2 /conference listings, plus a whole lot more. Sorry, did you think I was making it up????
I try to be objective as far as possible. I can't believe that you didn't think that anyone had been moving...


5 June 2008
Marlon Broomes Free
Jim Goodwin Free
Dale Stephens Tribunal
3 June 2008
Kevin McLeod Free
Matt Lockwood Undisclosed
2 June 2008
Guillaume Beuzelin Free
Kris Commons Free
Roman Bednar £2.3m
*Chris Brandon Free
Robert Earnshaw £2.65m
Nathan Ellington Loan
*Paul Green Free
Jordan Stewart Free
29 May 2008
*Colin Hawkins Free
28 May 2008
Do-heon Kim £550,000
Luke Moore £3m
Chris O'Grady Undisclosed

27 May 2008
Danny Forrest Undisclosed
Mark Lynch
*Keigan Parker Free

24 May 2008
Paul Carden Free

23 May 2008
Adam Bygrave Free
Michael Cummins Free
Sam Rents Free
Steve Fletcher Free
Mark Hudson Free
Sam Vokes Undisclosed
Simon Yeo Free
22 May 2008
Rob Gier Free
Charlie Ide Free
Mark Molsley
Jack Obersteller Free
*Mark Schwarzer Free
Scott Rendell Undisclosed
Ashley Williams Undisclosed

21 May 2008
*Ashley Grimes Undisclosed
Kieran Lee Free
*Andy Robinson Free
Luke Steele Free


20 May 2008
Andy Mangan Free
19 May 2008
Marcus Bean Free
*Lee Carsley Free
Joshua Webb Undisclosed
15 May 2008
Chris Blackburn Free
Paul Connolly Free
13 May 2008
Radek Cerny Free
Matt Heath Free
*Peter Ramage Free
8 May 2008
Harry Worley Free

7 May 2008
*Danny Schofield Free
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6 May 2008
*Michael Johnson Free

5 May 2008
*Robert Page Free

Sorry, my computer skills aren't what they should be. I've now included all the clubs involved, so that you can refute my rumours, or maybe find out that this is ACTUALLY going on. Noticed a distinct lack of prescence from So'ton on htis Rumour page. Never mind. plenty of time left before the first game kicks off.



5 June 2008
Marlon Broomes Stoke - Blackpool Free
Jim Goodwin Scunthorpe - Huddersfield Free
Dale Stephens Bury - Oldham Tribunal
3 June 2008
Kevin McLeod Colchester United - Brighton Free
Matt Lockwood Nottingham Forest - ColchesterUndisclose
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2 June 2008
Guillaume Beuzelin Hibernian - Coventry Free
Kris Commons Nottingham Forest - Derby Free
Roman Bednar Hearts - West Brom £2.3m
*Chris Brandon Huddersfield - Bradford Free
Robert Earnshaw Derby - Nottingham Forest £2.65m
Nathan Ellington Watford - Derby Loan
*Paul Green Doncaster - Derby Free
Jordan Stewart Watford - Derby Free
29 May 2008
*Colin Hawkins Coventry - Brighton Free
28 May 2008
Do-heon Kim Seongnam Ilhwa Shunma - West Brom £550,000
Luke MooreAston Villa - West Brom £3m
Chris O'Grady Rotherham - Oldham Undisclosed
27 May 2008
Danny Forrest Halifax - Crawley Undisclosed
Mark Lynchunattached - Rotherham
*Keigan ParkerBlackpool - Huddersfield Free

24 May 2008
Paul Carden Accrington - Wrexham Free
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23 May 2008
Adam Bygrave Reading - Weymouth Free
Michael Cummins Darlington - Rotherham Free
Sam Rents Brighton - Crawley Free
Steve Fletcher Chesterfield - Crawley Free
Mark Hudson Crystal Palace - Charlton Free
Sam Vokes Bournemouth - Wolves Undisclosed
Simon Yeo Chester - Macclesfield Free
22 May 2008
Rob Gier Aldershot - Grays Free
Charlie Ide Brentford - Grays Free
Mark Molsley[unattached - Grays
Jack Obersteller Wycombe - Exeter Free
*Mark Schwarzer Middlesbrough - Fulham Free
Scott Rendell Cambridge Utd - Peterborough Undisclosed
Ashley Williams Stockport - Swansea Undisclosed
21 May 2008
*Ashley Grimes Man City - Millwall Undisclosed
Kieran Lee Manchester United - Oldham Free
*Andy Robinson Swansea - LeedsFree
Luke Steele West Brom - Barnsley Free
20 May 2008
Andy Mangan Bury - Forest Green Free
19 May 2008
Marcus Bean Blackpool - Brentford Free
*Lee Carsley Everton - Birmingham Free
Joshua Webb Reading - Weymouth Undisclosed
15 May 2008
Chris Blackburn Swindon - Aldershot Free
Paul Connolly Plymouth - Derby Free
13 May 2008
Radek Cerny Slavia Prague - QPR Free
Matt Heath Leeds - Colchester Free
*Peter Ramage Newcastle - QPR Free
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8 May 2008
Harry Worley Chelsea - Leicester Free
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7 May 2008
*Danny Schofield Huddersfield - Yeovil Free
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6 May 2008
*Michael Johnson Derby - Notts County Free

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5 May 2008
*Robert Page Huddersfield - Chesterfield Free

Robbie

That's mostly a bunch of Freebies and probably nobody that we want or can afford! Besides, to make your point, you should stick to CCC only. Hardly in the class of wheeling and dealing!

Poortvliet is not due to start until 23rd June.
No one complained at the time he was paraded at St Mary's!

What do you define as wheeling and dealing then? You said to show you that this was going on, so I did. Now you want to move the goalposts. As for not wanting or being able to afford them, who would you llike to see in a Saints shirt next season? Saints might be able to get a few'freebies' if they pull their fingers out. Apparently it's all that the club can afford.How long before Southampton get a move on and talk to clubs/players (preferably in that order this time. wouldn't want a repeat of this weeks embarassments, would we???)

These are all clubs that are making plans for the start of the new season. Selling to raise money, buying to improve the squad, or loaning because money is tight

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: "In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out." That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I've never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies"!!

'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn't deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team.

You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension.

If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: "In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out." That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I've never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies"!!

'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn't deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team.

You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension.

If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Same old, same old.

You get what you deserve, keep funding Lowe nice little boys club - you must be on the inside.

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: \"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out.\" That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I\'ve never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies\"!!

\'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe\'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn\'t deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team.

You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension.

If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Same old, same old.

You get what you deserve, keep funding Lowe nice little boys club - you must be on the inside.

I do fear for the families and/or friends of the vitriolic few who in protest are giving up their Saturday outings to St Mary’s where they berate the player who is out of their favour, the referee and the board of directors (all of which they are perfectly entitled). I do wish, however, they wouldn’t demand everyone else stay away.
I too am frustrated by what has happened to our club over the past few years but I’m afraid it’s now becoming very clear that even with the Premier League payments, without huge financial backing, existence in the Premiership is nigh on impossible and subsequent relegation catastrophic. Moderately wealthy backing just isn’t good enough as Reading and Birmingham can testify.
I take a simple view as a long term supporter who has seen the brilliant and the ****-right awful (many times in successive games) over several decades. I will continue to watch and support Saints no matter what division they’re in. I’ll curse and swear at poor performances and be extremely bias in my assessment of the referee and linesmen. I’ll leave the ground happy if we’ve won or snatched a draw from the jaws of defeat and miserable if we’ve lost or drawn after leading.
If we make progress up the league, I’ll think the manager is the right man for the job and the directors okay for appointing him. If we slip down the league, I’ll have known all along the manager wasn’t up to the job and the directors crap for appointing him! Each year I’ll optimistically expect/hope next season will be better.
I believe and hope that I’m preaching to the converted when I ask supporters to continue to support the club and not stay away.
You won’t hurt Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde or any other significant shareholder who by their very nature obviously haven’t used this week’s Giro to purchase their shares.
You’ll hurt the club that, no matter what, I and many others in and around Southampton will always support because it’s “our” club and will continue to be “our” club, no matter who owns it.

Wilson wrote:
Repetitive moan, moan, moan is all we hear from the "Lowe out" retards to whatever is the current topic concerning Saints, like a single-minded dog obsessed with a bone. These bores must be a great laugh at a party!

Hey Mr 'Lowelife lover' Wilson!

"HELLO POT THIS IS KETTLE"

It seems that the 'Lowe out' retards are the majority on this site. So who's singleminded you kn0b?

Robbie

Haven't you heard of the hare and the tortoise?!

We have until the 31st August - hardly time to panic!

Any sensible player will be on holiday recharging their batteries!

There will be a list of players to be sold/high earners to be renegotiated (or leave). If the policy of moving younger players into the first team is applied, we could, for example, see maybe 4 players coming through which is 4 less players to buy!

I would rather the building blocks were in place for the whole of the club rather than go off half **** in the transfer market!

Trusupporta, Southampton

An Excellent Comment! I take my hat off to you - Very sensible.

And well done for taking the time to write it.

Dont rush we DONT WANT YOU, best stay with the micky mouse outfit in holland, at least they seem to.

If we intend to play kids in the first team, I hope they reduce the ticket price to that of watching the youth team.

Simon Templar wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: \\\"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out.\\\" That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I\\\'ve never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies\\\"!!

\\\'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe\\\'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn\\\'t deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team. You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension. If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Same old, same old. You get what you deserve, keep funding Lowe nice little boys club - you must be on the inside.

You claim to be a true fan but you want the team to go bust, if that happens which team will you support next and will you want them to go bust too? You must be a pompey fan.

Lowe Out wrote:
Lowe Out

Still here, or are there more than two of you? Pack off to Eastleigh and leave us alone. You are getting as predictable as crew 657.

Lowe out, and take those dutch clowns with you, I wont be going again until Lowe leaves. After 42 years I cant take any more.

Having a laugh aint you whats the players we got for next season!

Haven't you heard of the hare and the tortoise?!

We have until the 31st August - hardly time to panic!

Any sensible player will be on holiday recharging their batteries!

Try looking round on the 30th of August to snap up a bargain, and see who is left. The players may well be taking a break, but players don't sort out contracts, agents do. If Jan Van Dutch had an agent, he might not be in the sticky stuff as much as he is. An agent can negotiate between club, potential club and player. I hear that most players have a mobile phone these days....

If we intend to play kids in the first team, I hope they reduce the ticket price to that of watching the youth team.

i think jan should get jayjay okocha on the free tranfer

30k euros, this is farcical...he's never worth that much.

Thankfully, there are a few cheery souls on here with a positive view of life. Heaven help the rest!!

Saint Stephen wrote:
Lowe out, and take those dutch clowns with you, I wont be going again until Lowe leaves. After 42 years I cant take any more.

Bye Bye Stephen, we don't need your kind.

Bye Bye Stephen, we don't need your kind.

That's a mighty big statement to make, bearing in mind the financial position of the club. This morning, every fan was needed. A near empty stadium will kill the club over half a season. A 50% drop in merchandise revenue will hurt the club immensely. Lets see the club justify everyone dipping into their pockets though. So far it has been a farce. fans are entitled to feel angry and humiliated.

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: \\\\\\\"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out.\\\\\\\" That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I\\\\\\\'ve never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies\\\\\\\"!!

\\\\\\\'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe\\\\\\\'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn\\\\\\\'t deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team. You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension. If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Same old, same old. You get what you deserve, keep funding Lowe nice little boys club - you must be on the inside.

You claim to be a true fan but you want the team to go bust, if that happens which team will you support next and will you want them to go bust too? You must be a pompey fan.

Why would I bother coming on here if I was, so just stop it with the pompey jibes, its getting boring, you k now who the pompeys fans are on here. We could always talk about the team you support - Team Lowe, hurrah for good breeeding

The fans who are calling for the club to go bust aren't doing it because they hate the club. They are doing it because they see it as the only way to get rid of Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde. These fans see the pair as being severely damaging to the club.

After supporting saints for 42 years,

R.I.P SOUTHAMPTON FOOTBALL CLUB

I think this situation is great, southampton seams to have a great following of downers, people who always like to asume the worst. This whole situation is going to keep you all very busy moaning for at least another month.

I on the other hand, don't like Lowe (untill he proves he is on the mend), wish Pearson had stayed, can't beleive we have no money but still can't wait for next season. Exciting times ahead one way or the other!

If everyone just tries to be positive, you'll be amazed at what can follow...
This club will survive, it will be great again, how long who knows but I will be there along for the ride always chearing the red and white win loose or draw. For better or for worse they are my team, its a long relationship with alot of ups and downs.
Till death do us part.

Your be their on your own, the rest of us we have taken up fishing.

Simon Templar wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

Tracey wrote:

Simon Templar wrote:

George wrote: \\\\\\\"In the meantime, other clubs in the CCC are wheeling and dealing, moving players in and out.\\\\\\\" That is an example of a typically anti Lowe post! Give me examples of the so called wheeling and dealing! Jan Poortvliet is due to start on 23rd June, and he will. Stop all this anti Lowe business! If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe. If not, just go away and support someone else. I\\\\\\\'ve never heard such a big band of whingers and moaners in all my life - no wonder the Aussies tagged the Brits years ago as the “Whinging Pommies\\\\\\\"!!

\\\\\\\'If you are a Saints supporter, you should get behind your team and your club and that includes Rupert Lowe\\\\\\\'. Wrong, big time wrong my friend. Lowe doesn\\\\\\\'t deserve any compassion from the people of Southamption for the utter contempt he holds us in. More fool you if you go along like a good little sheep and add to his pension. People like you make me ashamed to be from Southampton.

If Saints go bust next season simon it wont be the fault of true supporters who will continue to go to matches to support the team. You went when Crouch was chairman like a good little sheep and added to his pension. If you are ashamed to be from Southampton because of true fans who will attend matches to cheer on the team next season then move somewhere else.

Same old, same old. You get what you deserve, keep funding Lowe nice little boys club - you must be on the inside.

You claim to be a true fan but you want the team to go bust, if that happens which team will you support next and will you want them to go bust too? You must be a pompey fan.

Why would I bother coming on here if I was, so just stop it with the pompey jibes, its getting boring, you k now who the pompeys fans are on here. We could always talk about the team you support - Team Lowe, hurrah for good breeeding

Several Pompey fans come here Simon, and your PR plant jibes are boring.

Yes I do know who the pompey fans are on here, they wont attend Saints matches next season.

Team Lowe? what league does that team play in then? Perhaps its a non league team that plays in Woolston? Hey now here's a good idea Simon, you could support Team Lowe next season lol.

After supporting saints for 42 years,

R.I.P SOUTHAMPTON FOOTBALL CLUB

obvoisly rupert is evil, are we still angry about the cunning evil plot he hatched to get crouch (peter) to the club. we of course all knew crouch was a useless loser, we showed him and booed him for months. we know that we are all better than lowe. its odd he doesn't resign.

or

are we angry that lowe sold are fave to the scousers for a pittance.

Sorry can not remember.

If we intend to play kids in the first team, I hope they reduce the ticket price to that of watching the youth team.

Saint Stephen wrote:
If we intend to play kids in the first team, I hope they reduce the ticket price to that of watching the youth team.

Its not youth players you will be watching, the Stains are going to play TYRO LEAGUE PLAYERS !
PRICELESS.
LOVINIT LOVINIT LOVINIT

Some people claimed that comedy in England died with The Good Show.
Other say that it died in Southampton when we lost Benny Hill, but this episode in Saints history appears to be a Goon Show script being performed by Benny Hill and his gang.
While some may have tears of laughter, many fans have tears of dispair.

Trusupporta wrote:
I do fear for the families and/or friends of the vitriolic few who in protest are giving up their Saturday outings to St Mary’s where they berate the player who is out of their favour, the referee and the board of directors (all of which they are perfectly entitled). I do wish, however, they wouldn’t demand everyone else stay away. I too am frustrated by what has happened to our club over the past few years but I’m afraid it’s now becoming very clear that even with the Premier League payments, without huge financial backing, existence in the Premiership is nigh on impossible and subsequent relegation catastrophic. Moderately wealthy backing just isn’t good enough as Reading and Birmingham can testify. I take a simple view as a long term supporter who has seen the brilliant and the ****-right awful (many times in successive games) over several decades. I will continue to watch and support Saints no matter what division they’re in. I’ll curse and swear at poor performances and be extremely bias in my assessment of the referee and linesmen. I’ll leave the ground happy if we’ve won or snatched a draw from the jaws of defeat and miserable if we’ve lost or drawn after leading. If we make progress up the league, I’ll think the manager is the right man for the job and the directors okay for appointing him. If we slip down the league, I’ll have known all along the manager wasn’t up to the job and the directors crap for appointing him! Each year I’ll optimistically expect/hope next season will be better. I believe and hope that I’m preaching to the converted when I ask supporters to continue to support the club and not stay away. You won’t hurt Rupert Lowe or Michael Wilde or any other significant shareholder who by their very nature obviously haven’t used this week’s Giro to purchase their shares. You’ll hurt the club that, no matter what, I and many others in and around Southampton will always support because it’s “our” club and will continue to be “our” club, no matter who owns it.

MAGNIFIQUE!!

the best thing I've read on these boards in a long time..