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10:00am Monday 6th October 2008
JAN Poortvliet will probably feel the 4-1 defeat at Coventry was a missed opportunity.
After two good wins in their last two outings, it was a game that Saints could afford to lose – well, as much as you can afford to lose any game.
The scoreline as much as the defeat leaves Saints plenty to reflect on during the international break. There are still doubts over some aspects of the team for Poortvliet to ponder. Saints need to bounce back quickly when they return.
Adam Leitch
But even a point at the Ricoh Arena would have rounded off an excellent week. After a tough and at times shaky start to the season, Saints seemed to have cracked it.
They didn’t play particularly well against Doncaster but got a terrific away victory.
They followed that with a better performance against Norwich, but still not as good as they are capable of and got another win.
So, travelling to Coventry in confident mood, you felt a decent performance and at least a point would give a sense of momentum going into the international break.
In fact even a good performance and a narrow defeat might have just about achieved the same.
But what happened at Coventry meant the break will be spent ponder more on problems that still exist rather than everything that has gone right.
The formation is the main thing being questioned.
With the way Saints are playing, the extent that the full backs will be exposed is a lingering concern.
Opposition managers have picked up on it, loading diagonal balls out wide, playing pacy widemen, doubling up with an overlapping full back.
You feel a little for those at left and right back as they find themselves in the firing line.
Saints have also been vulnerable to quick counter attacks for much the same reason – pouring forward in numbers, giving the ball away cheaply and then being left open.
Poortvliet has to decide whether the formation is the problem or whether the personnel he is playing in the various positions needs changing. Or, of course, he may feel it is a matter of time before it comes right – but if he opts for that approach he needs things to go well after the international break.
With five games in two weeks coming up, Saints can’t afford a few more defeats.
They did start well at Coventry. They were moving the ball around nicely but, again, didn’t take full of advantage of it.
Adam Lallana dragged wide from distance while David McGoldrick couldn’t quite get enough on a teasing cross from Joseph Mills.
Saints paid the price as Coventry took the lead on 26 minutes.
It came from both wide areas as down the left the chance was created for Leon McKenzie to cross to the far post where Jay Tabb stormed in off his wing to beat Mills to the ball and head home.
Saints had a chance to respond quickly but McGoldrick failed to hit the target when the ball was pulled back to him 12 yards out.
Coventry started to apply the pressure and should have scored a second when they won a penalty.
Ollie Lancashire caught Leon Best just inside the area as he ran across him.
Elliott Ward stepped up and tried a cheeky chip but merely stabbed a gentle catch to Kelvin Davis, who will never have an easier penalty save to make.
The Sky Blues didn’t relent, however, and had another great chance when Best found himself free at the far post but struck the woodwork when he should have scored.
The pressure paid off, though, on 34 minutes. Aron Gunnarsson chucked in a long throw, Ward flicked it into the six yard box where McKenzie had lost marker McGoldrick and finished past Davis into the bottom corner.
It could have been even worse at half-time had Davis not stayed strong and saved with his body when Gunnarsson was through.
Poortvliet made no changes at the break but saw his side concede three minutes after the restart.
Again the ball was out on the left as McKenzie played in overlapping full back Danny Fox, whose low cross picked out Best sliding in to turn home from close range.
Poortvliet made a triple change and Saints did get better as Coventry let their standards slip.
Saints gave themselves a glimmer of hope on 63 minutes when Bradley Wright-Phillips mis-hit a shot that Andrew Surman headed home, showing great reactions.
After Michael Doyle had blasted over from eight yards, Saints had a glorious opportunity. McGoldrick was in with just the keeper to beat but his effort was weak and provided a comfortable save for Keiren Westwood, before the keeper made a tougher save from Surman at his near post.
That woke Coventry up and they sealed the win with three minutes remaining as Freddy Eastwood stood up a far post cross and Tabb again ran off his wing to volley home and leave Saints with a feeling of what might have been.
Southseachris, Southsea says...
7:43pm Sat 4 Oct 08
UTS, says...
7:43pm Sat 4 Oct 08
saint Compo, Winchester says...
7:54pm Sat 4 Oct 08
LLMK, Locks Heath says...
8:20pm Sat 4 Oct 08
King Sausage, Back of the Net says...
8:25pm Sat 4 Oct 08
JMC, Warsash says...
9:18pm Sat 4 Oct 08
SammyD5889, Southampton says...
10:50pm Sat 4 Oct 08
Rudd Gillett, Saffhampton says...
8:05am Sun 5 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
12:00pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Denzil, Chilworth says...
12:05pm Sun 5 Oct 08
moe, Soton says...
12:06pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter), says...
12:12pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Denzil wrote:Don't you have anything constructive to say?
LOWE OUT,
And take your Dutch boyfriends with you.
Denzil, Chilworth says...
12:57pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter) wrote:That is constructive.
Denzil wrote: LOWE OUT, And take your Dutch boyfriends with you.Don't you have anything constructive to say? I'm emailing Phill Burner...
criky1, Southampton says...
5:22pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Costa Baz, Southampton says...
5:35pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Condor Man, Southampton says...
7:42pm Sun 5 Oct 08
UTS, says...
8:19pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Condor Man wrote:We could of had two or three loans in the last couple of months to sort out the defence. But Lowe decided to do what he thought was best. Pulis and Gasmi me up !
hopefully by the New Year transfer window we'd have sold on Rasiak, Skacel and Saganowski which would free up some cash to bring in some old heads, perhaps ones that are currently out of contract and looking for clubs. We just have to make do with what we have for the time being. There is a pattern emerging- win some, draw some, lose heavily. As long as 3 clubs finish below us in May I'd be happy.
Reality-man, Southampton says...
8:26pm Sun 5 Oct 08
The Real Denzil, Chilworth says...
8:29pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Shazza (the genuine article, not an imposter) wrote:I thought I read on the site the other day you had an ASBO banning you from public libraries, how you managing to post.
Denzil wrote: LOWE OUT, And take your Dutch boyfriends with you.Don't you have anything constructive to say? I'm emailing Phill Burner...
Exile, Ipswich says...
8:29pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Lehman Bros Banker, Docklands says...
9:12pm Sun 5 Oct 08
sjames29, Curdridge says...
9:19pm Sun 5 Oct 08
F Fan, Winchester says...
10:20pm Sun 5 Oct 08
Costa Baz wrote:The only “true fan” debate I have seen is about those who stay away from St Mary’s because of Lowe. The youth option was pretty much forced upon the club by the financial position. But, yes, I was one of those who took a positive attitude at the start of the season.
MISSING
LAST SEEN BEFORE THE SEASON KICKED OFF.
REWARD OFFERED FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE DISCOVERY OF ALL THOSE "TRUE FANS" WHO KEPT TELLING THE REALIST FANS THAT PLAYING THE KIDS WAS THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD.
WHERE ARE YOU WHEN YOUR TEAM NEEDS YOU???
As he would have said on the Royle Family, "True fans, my ar*e"
NewforestSaint, new forest says...
8:44am Mon 6 Oct 08
Costa Baz, Southampton says...
5:49pm Mon 6 Oct 08
F Fan wrote:My strategy has never changed. You don't play more than 5 novices in the team at any one time.
Costa Baz wrote: MISSING LAST SEEN BEFORE THE SEASON KICKED OFF. REWARD OFFERED FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE DISCOVERY OF ALL THOSE "TRUE FANS" WHO KEPT TELLING THE REALIST FANS THAT PLAYING THE KIDS WAS THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD. WHERE ARE YOU WHEN YOUR TEAM NEEDS YOU??? As he would have said on the Royle Family, "True fans, my ar*e"The only “true fan” debate I have seen is about those who stay away from St Mary’s because of Lowe. The youth option was pretty much forced upon the club by the financial position. But, yes, I was one of those who took a positive attitude at the start of the season. I posted after the West Ham game, “ what a revelation they were. One touch football played at pace; great width provided by Holmes … Schneiderlin has undoubted class and Gillett was a revelation … but the back four as a unit probably lack a bit of height … I still think Surnam is too good a creator to play at left back …. the greatest credit, however, must go to the management. They have totally changed the way the team plays in such as short time. No hoofing the ball up the park; playing to feet with one touch passing … the players working in triangles as they go forward and hunting the ball in units when possession was lost. Both the defence and the midfield worked well as units but perhaps not quite so well up front … McGoldrick played the best I have ever seen him .. but I still don’t think he has enough about him … The team looked well motivated and worked hard … we must not read too much into it but what I saw was hugely encouraging … If this really is what sees as his first eleven, then we should be selling some of the more established players on high wages and use the funds to bring in some cover at full back … The whingeing stay-aways missed a treat. These players and this management deserve the backing of all true fans. Anyone boycotting home games is without doubt harming the club and poor crowds might well be the greatest danger the team and the club face this season. It is likely that this team is too inexperienced and a bit lightweight to challenge for promotion this season but keep the faith and we might build something very good indeed”. I don’t regret a word of that mate. And I don’t think it has proved to be far off the mark. We do need some more experienced full backs and a centre half; we do need Surman in midfield; low crowds is the big danger to keeping our best players and getting in some defenders; we are not sharp enough in the box. None of that makes the strategy wrong headed in the circumstances. Now – remind us – what was your alternative strategy at the start of the season - with no money to spend and the need to cut a couple of £million off our recurrent costs?
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The Real Denzil, Chilworth says...
7:41pm Sat 4 Oct 08