Les Reed to play pivotal role in appointing new Southampton manager (From Daily Echo)

andysaint43 wrote:
2 many cooks as they say..wonder if Pardew was getting interferance from other aspects of the football club???

Red Duster wrote:
All this points to a young up and coming manager, like Adkins, being appointed. However, management by committee can cause problems when things don't go according to plan. I expect an appointment in the next couple of days. No way will O'Neill come here, his on his way to Man U.

Day Dreamer wrote:
Got a feeling Less Read is going to become the biggest hate figure at SFC since Mr Branfoot!

saintsayer wrote:
Not sure if this guy is part of the problem or part of the solution Time will tell but we need someone good this week before losing and not performing bcome a habit

threetimes wrote:
Yeah I'm with Tony Robertson on this one - as Les Reed didn't get a declining Charlton in to the Champions League in 6 weeks and England didn't win the world cup, he's clearly useless. Let's just ignore all the impressive elements of his career. While we're at it, let's all get on Cortese's back too. I mean, other than persuading the late Markus Leibherr to rescue us from oblivion and provide us and our families with some optimism for the years ahead and overseeing us win our first piece of silverware at Wembley for decades, what has he done for us! I think we can conclusively draw on it as fact that Cortese sacked Pardew because he didn't like him personally and just fancied a change and to create some more headlines. I should probably point out, given the level of intelligence of some posters on here, that I'm being sarcastic here. I'd be happy with either of Brown, Adkins and of course MO'N. Brown might have made a few embarrassing gaffes, but to highlight only those is extremely short sighted when you consider his successes.

costa gaz wrote:

threetimes wrote: Yeah I'm with Tony Robertson on this one - as Les Reed didn't get a declining Charlton in to the Champions League in 6 weeks and England didn't win the world cup, he's clearly useless. Let's just ignore all the impressive elements of his career. While we're at it, let's all get on Cortese's back too. I mean, other than persuading the late Markus Leibherr to rescue us from oblivion and provide us and our families with some optimism for the years ahead and overseeing us win our first piece of silverware at Wembley for decades, what has he done for us! I think we can conclusively draw on it as fact that Cortese sacked Pardew because he didn't like him personally and just fancied a change and to create some more headlines. I should probably point out, given the level of intelligence of some posters on here, that I'm being sarcastic here. I'd be happy with either of Brown, Adkins and of course MO'N. Brown might have made a few embarrassing gaffes, but to highlight only those is extremely short sighted when you consider his successes.

I understood the sarcasm and totally agree with you.

Tony Robertson wrote:
Jannersaint said, inter alia : "The only man ever to manage at al levels of English football from grass roots to the England team as assistant."

Look how long he lasted at Charlton, and the result of coaching England (remember South Africa this summer?).

Glenn(Leeds) wrote:
My god look at this lot,can't believe there are so many poeple on this list. Shearer would be good for the club and the town. Nigel Adkins 6/5 Phil Brown 3/1 Gianfranco Zola 4/1 Eddie Howe 5/1 Alan Shearer 10/1 Tony Mowbray 10/1 Gareth Southgate 12/1 Glenn Hoddle 12/1 Rolf Fringer 12/1 Paul Buckle 14/1 Ian Dowie 14/1 Jim Magilton 14/1 Paul Hart 16/1 Kevin Blackwell 16/1 Chris Coleman 16/1 Paul Jewell 16/1 Steve Clarke 16/1 Dennis Wise 16/1 Paul Ince 20/1 Gary Megson 20/1 Martin O'Neill 20/1 Micky Adams 22/1 Sven Goran Eriksson 25/1 Dean Wikins 25/1 Steve Coppell 25/1 Kevin Keegan 25/1 Chris Wilder 25/1 Alan Knill 28/1 Jim Gannon 28/1 Alan Curbishley 33/1 Paul Tisdale 33/1 Jeff Kenna 33/1 Dan Petrescu 40/1 Carlton Palmer 66/1 Matthew Le Tissier 100/1

Ken Barlow wrote:
My supermole in the club has confirmed it was Pulis and McCarthey who were the Prem managers who sounded out Cortese about the position.

oldtimesaint wrote:

Ken Barlow wrote:
My supermole in the club has confirmed it was Pulis and McCarthey who were the Prem managers who sounded out Cortese about the position.

my supermole (sic) says please note speculation doesnt say manager is currently employed by a premiership club but could just mean someone who has premiership experience...eg brown

RealTalkMuhFuggas wrote:

oldtimesaint wrote:

Ken Barlow wrote: My supermole in the club has confirmed it was Pulis and McCarthey who were the Prem managers who sounded out Cortese about the position.

my supermole (sic) says please note speculation doesnt say manager is currently employed by a premiership club but could just mean someone who has premiership experience...eg brown

NO, 2 managers from the Premiership means 2 managers from the Premiership.

Legend Saint wrote:
Anyone else see the irony in the fact that the reporter of this article looks 10 and clearly models himself on one of the thunderbirds yet hes labeled 'senior sports reporter'. Either he's having a laugh or it goes someway to explaining the shoddy journalism in this paper.

Legend Saint wrote:
Anyone else see the irony in the fact that the reporter of this article looks 10 and clearly models himself on one of the thunderbirds yet hes labeled 'senior sports reporter'. Either he's having a laugh or it goes someway to explaining the shoddy journalism in this paper.

Hitlers Tash wrote:
Well done Echo obviously your 'source' of information is no other that the tree of factual information that is the ITK lot on Saintsweb!!! It is believed, we understand, cortese, like myself, hates you so really your 'we understand' ain't worth a Tommy Tank!! How long can you get away with copy and pasting forum threads and gettin what I expect to be a half decent salary for doing so!!!

costa gaz wrote:
About an hour ago i got a bet on with paddy power Mo'N @12/1.
He is now 2/1.
Could he be our man?

Saint Bean wrote:

costa gaz wrote: About an hour ago i got a bet on with paddy power Mo'N @12/1. He is now 2/1. Could he be our man?

2/1 on MON eh do the bookies know know somethin we dont ????.

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

threetimes wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

costa gaz wrote: About an hour ago i got a bet on with paddy power Mo'N @12/1. He is now 2/1. Could he be our man?

2/1 on MON eh do the bookies know know somethin we dont ????.

I wouldn't read too much in to it. I suspect if someone put £100 on Keegan now his odds would shorten dramatically too. When people see a name jump down to 4/1, they'll jump on it too thinking someone's in the know and it'll shorten even more. We can dream though eh!

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom. The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on. The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday. If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester. The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks. No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form. Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front. If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games. 0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward) The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target. Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver. The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action. For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals. For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money. For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack. Played 2 Lost 2 Scored 0 Conceded 5 We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

thesotonsaint wrote:
Books seem to have closed on oddschecker for next saints manager!!

saintsayer wrote:
I'd like to see Gus Poyet get the job He got Leeds into the playoffs with Wise from -15 he did a good job at Spurs before the manager got the big E and look how he turned Brighton around last season

threetimes wrote:
Yeah I'm with Tony Robertson on this one - as Les Reed didn't get a declining Charlton in to the Champions League in 6 weeks and England didn't win the world cup, he's clearly useless. Let's just ignore all the impressive elements of his career. While we're at it, let's all get on Cortese's back too. I mean, other than persuading the late Markus Leibherr to rescue us from oblivion and provide us and our families with some optimism for the years ahead and overseeing us win our first piece of silverware at Wembley for decades, what has he done for us! I think we can conclusively draw on it as fact that Cortese sacked Pardew because he didn't like him personally and just fancied a change and to create some more headlines. I should probably point out, given the level of intelligence of some posters on here, that I'm being sarcastic here. I'd be happy with either of Brown, Adkins and of course MO'N. Brown might have made a few embarrassing gaffes, but to highlight only those is extremely short sighted when you consider his successes.

Alicesdad wrote:
As always nobody will know who the next manager is until NC says so. It coudl still be a name we haven't mentioned before, there are just so many out there. Remember NC is well connected abroad. I have no problem with the segmented management structures mentioned above, football is a big corporate scale business and so should be run accordingly. The days of one man running everything are long gone. I still doubt that O'Neill is coming here, or even Phil Brown. I'd love to know who is placing heavy money on O'Neil though. They are either crooks, fools or too rich to care. The odds reduction today is very suspicious. NC will want someone to get us out of this division first then rebuild yet another side to get us out of the Championship. The same side will not be capable of both leaps. Cortese and Reed both know this. I think that the title "Kingmaker" is stretching his importance a bit though, or was that just a bit of journalistic hyperbole, probably was. It's a real pain waiting for the answer, but we are used to that. The good thing is that whoever comes here has a good core squad to start with. So even with the intial dodgy results we have had, we are still capable of automatic promotion this season.

threetimes wrote:
Yeah I'm with Tony Robertson on this one - as Les Reed didn't get a declining Charlton in to the Champions League in 6 weeks and England didn't win the world cup, he's clearly useless. Let's just ignore all the impressive elements of his career. While we're at it, let's all get on Cortese's back too. I mean, other than persuading the late Markus Leibherr to rescue us from oblivion and provide us and our families with some optimism for the years ahead and overseeing us win our first piece of silverware at Wembley for decades, what has he done for us! I think we can conclusively draw on it as fact that Cortese sacked Pardew because he didn't like him personally and just fancied a change and to create some more headlines. I should probably point out, given the level of intelligence of some posters on here, that I'm being sarcastic here. I'd be happy with either of Brown, Adkins and of course MO'N. Brown might have made a few embarrassing gaffes, but to highlight only those is extremely short sighted when you consider his successes.

St.Yorkie wrote:
I don't want a King at my club - the despot we used have was bad enough. All I want is a manager to lead us from this desperate league where every home game is the opponents Cup Final. Never mind the winning mentality - our squad need to get with the belief that SMS is a fortress where no points should be dropped! I hate losing - and the squad we have is full of top players - but we are not united as a team. Fingers started pointing again the other night - blame culture returns to cover up for shortcomings of these so called professionals. Maybe the mantle of favourites for promotion is a burden - but hey it's much better than being favourites for relegation! I'm genuinely cheesed off with football again at the moment - it seems managers and players can't keep their brains under control! But still they get MEGA salaries (by normal standards)for lack lustre performances - and they still find someone else to blame. I trust in Cortese to do the right thing. There is a blip in the 5-year plan due to an unforeseen turn of events. He will re-group - but the timescale will remain the same. It's the same in any business - the end date remains the same whatever the circumstances. He will live and die by that plan - failure is not an option! Good luck Mr Cortese but hurry because the paying public will vote with their feet.

Wupperty wrote:
Not sure if someone has mentioned in a previous thread, but the Wiki page re MoN has had the Southampton part removed. Bad times :(

Wupperty wrote:
Not sure if someone has mentioned in a previous thread, but the Wiki page re MoN has had the Southampton part removed. Bad times :(

costa gaz wrote:
Nicola Corleone; "Never tell anybody outside the family what you are thinking"

Jannersaint wrote:

Day Dreamer wrote: Got a feeling Less Read is going to become the biggest hate figure at SFC since Mr Branfoot!

That's because so many don't get it. What was the problem with Sir Clive Woodward an international expect in sports fitness coming in to develope the centre leaving the manager to manage. If you don't have a Les Reed the manager gets less time with the players because they're doing admin and buying kit. Makes sense to me. I'd like Les Reed doing all that dross if I were a manager. We also mustn't forget that Les Reed isn't a numpty. He's highly regarded world wide for his coaching and development abilities. The only man ever to manage at al levels of English football from grass roots to the England team as assistant. We should be proud to have him and I'm glad NC has someone in the know advising him on football matters (on an equal footing to the manager)

Legend Saint wrote:

Wupperty wrote:
Not sure if someone has mentioned in a previous thread, but the Wiki page re MoN has had the Southampton part removed. Bad times :(

Wake up will you. I can go on there now and put that Guus Hiddink is going to be anounced at 3pm today if I want. Its a site for general information and to be taken lightly.

mack chinnon wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom. The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on. The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday. If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester. The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks. No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form. Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front. If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games. 0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward) The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target. Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver. The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action. For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals. For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money. For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack. Played 2 Lost 2 Scored 0 Conceded 5 We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

Yawn

saint Compo wrote:
I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable.

Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation.

What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you.

My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one.

Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs.

In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal.

Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true).

'nuff said.

COYR

Saint Louis wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

Yawn.

RedArmy1 wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote: I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom. The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on. The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday. If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester. The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks. No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form. Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front. If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games. 0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward) The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target. Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver. The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action. For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals. For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money. For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack. Played 2 Lost 2 Scored 0 Conceded 5 We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

Yawn

To yawn or not to yawn - that is the question The fact is that at Full Time on Saturday there could well be a lot of angry / upset and disgruntled Saints Fans and it could get a whole lot worse before it gets better !!

Saint Louis wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

Yawn.

saint Compo wrote:
I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable.

Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation.

What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you.

My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one.

Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs.

In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal.

Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true).

'nuff said.

COYR

Alicesdad wrote:
As always nobody will know who the next manager is until NC says so. It coudl still be a name we haven't mentioned before, there are just so many out there. Remember NC is well connected abroad.

I have no problem with the segmented management structures mentioned above, football is a big corporate scale business and so should be run accordingly. The days of one man running everything are long gone.

I still doubt that O'Neill is coming here, or even Phil Brown. I'd love to know who is placing heavy money on O'Neil though. They are either crooks, fools or too rich to care. The odds reduction today is very suspicious.

NC will want someone to get us out of this division first then rebuild yet another side to get us out of the Championship. The same side will not be capable of both leaps. Cortese and Reed both know this. I think that the title "Kingmaker" is stretching his importance a bit though, or was that just a bit of journalistic hyperbole, probably was.

It's a real pain waiting for the answer, but we are used to that. The good thing is that whoever comes here has a good core squad to start with. So even with the intial dodgy results we have had, we are still capable of automatic promotion this season.

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!).

As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese.

Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time.

COYR

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

lemsip wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

OMG i think you could be just the man we are looking for.....have you applied for the job yet?

RedArmy1 wrote:

lemsip wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

OMG i think you could be just the man we are looking for.....have you applied for the job yet?

If SFC genuinely want to listen to Fans to improve the Club then they should look no further than the Daily Echo site.

Many good comments are regularly made. We all want the same thing - success for the Club and the fans are part of the solution.

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Fibber!! You know NOTHING!

RedArmy1 wrote:
Osprey Saint - I am cheerful. Like everyone else we want to get to the heart of the problem. Alan Pardew was sacked and no-one really know why. Southampton Football Club have good players but we are all perplexed about the following : 1.Why we did not sign another Striker along with Barnard ? 2. Why is/was David Connolly so highly rated when he does not produce enough goals in this League ? 3. Why did Antonio and Papa Waigo go and not be replaced with goal scoring players with pace ? 4. From the Chapel Arms - why is Bart never given a go beteen the sticks even during JPT and we stick rigidly to Kelvin ? and there are a dozen more questions like that which the Saints Fans reasonably would like answers to !! Regardless Come on Saints - lets do the business on Saturday and get a result !!

Sainty saint saint wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:

lemsip wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom.

The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on.

The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday.

If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester.

The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks.

No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form.

Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front.

If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games.

0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward)

The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target.

Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver.

The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action.

For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals.

For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money.

For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack.

Played 2
Lost 2

Scored 0 Conceded 5

We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

OMG i think you could be just the man we are looking for.....have you applied for the job yet?

If SFC genuinely want to listen to Fans to improve the Club then they should look no further than the Daily Echo site.

Many good comments are regularly made. We all want the same thing - success for the Club and the fans are part of the solution.

Trouble is, some fans are absolute idiots who, if they had their say in the running of the club, would cause Saints to go under. Leave it to the professionals.

Sainty saint saint wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:

lemsip wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote: I've read the Saints Web site and apparantly It's not all Doom and Gloom. The feeling I am getting is that there is no imminent announcement and the Club is going to take a medium to long term view and just carry on. The 'smart money' is on a Swindon Win at the weekend - the Team are unable to keep a clean sheet and huff and puff up the field to miss the target and leave themselves open to counter attack. No new Manager - no new ideas and it's a toss up between losing 2-0 or 3-0 on Saturday. If Saints fans find that hard to stomach then the next 3 games will also follow a similar pattern. Predict a loss to Sheffield Wednesday and poor results at MK Dons and at home to Colchester. The positives - Lee Barnard back in two more games. Adam Lallana back in 6 weeks. No news of a Loan Striker coming in to make up for David Connolly lack of strike form. Making the best of it and sharing it's not all Doom and Gloom - then I hope the team are making use of extra training to be more defensive and play a lone striker up front. If they can keep a clean sheet then at least that gives the Team 1 point at the weekend - if they continue to keep clean sheets then it will be a victory to get some draws in the next 4 games. 0-0 will seem like a big result - which it is (stopping coceding and leaking goals is a major step forward) The fact is that no-one can tell when the next goal will be scored by a Saints player - there is no confidence about the players delivering - let alone hitting the target. Once again the burden will fall on Rickie to deliver. The Club over the last period have lost the ability to be pro-active and are now purely reactive. They seem to only learn after the event and are not able to plan ahead or take early action. For Lee Barnard - warm welcome when he comes back and hope he is able to channel his anger and aggression to scoring goals. For me - going to stick a few quid on Swindon and make some money. For the Fans and Red Army - Get Dean Wilkins Out - he is punching above his weight - does not know what he is doing and looking at results is heading for the sack. Played 2 Lost 2 Scored 0 Conceded 5 We all know the answers and the solutions - it is a shame that Southampton Football Club are so detached from the fans that they cannot see the blindingly obvious.

OMG i think you could be just the man we are looking for.....have you applied for the job yet?

If SFC genuinely want to listen to Fans to improve the Club then they should look no further than the Daily Echo site. Many good comments are regularly made. We all want the same thing - success for the Club and the fans are part of the solution.

Trouble is, some fans are absolute idiots who, if they had their say in the running of the club, would cause Saints to go under. Leave it to the professionals.

saint Compo wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Fibber!! You know NOTHING!

My post was not made for fun. On the contrary, it was deadly serious. I would have hoped that my sincerity was evident in my post. I am certainly not a fibber. I am a Saints fan of 55 years standing and love the Saints. I have made it perfectly clear that I cannot be sure that what I've been told is true. But if it is, it would explain why Cortese has not divulged the reason - he could not possibly do so. Maybe one day a tabloid paper will get the story (and the evidence to support it so that they can report it without fear of being sued). That's the way things are, I'm afraid. That's my final post on this story. Comment as you wish, but I will not respond. Just give this some careful thought and, all of you, do not vent your anger at the wrong target. COYR

juan101 wrote:
Where has Mr L Reed come from to wield all this power in the club? What is his track record in management? Answer a bad one, a man who was totally out of his depth at Charlton. He may have a knowledge of the game and he may have been coach to this team and that, but management is different. It's about motivating, man management and building team spirit. Personally, I wouldn't have Mr L Reed anywhere near this football club and have just feel he is a disaster waiting to happen.

slugger wrote:
afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

slugger wrote:
afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Harleysaint wrote:

slugger wrote: afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

Hello Slugger!!...So which game do you think will be the turning point??.....Am not prepared to do £40 quid on Chinese without a "Go Home Feelgood Factor"...;-))

saint_chris wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Its interesting that Pardew hasn't openly complained about being sacked (unless I've missed something). Perhaps he was in the wrong and knows it?

slugger wrote:

Harleysaint wrote:

slugger wrote: afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

Hello Slugger!!...So which game do you think will be the turning point??.....Am not prepared to do £40 quid on Chinese without a "Go Home Feelgood Factor"...;-))

can't do the colchester game (missus away) but do you fancy coming down for the bournemouth game on oct 2nd ?

slugger wrote:

saint_chris wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Its interesting that Pardew hasn't openly complained about being sacked (unless I've missed something). Perhaps he was in the wrong and knows it?

my thoughts exactly.....if i thought i was unfairly sacked i'd be telling anyone willing to listen.......the silence is deafening !

Jason D wrote:

slugger wrote:

saint_chris wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Its interesting that Pardew hasn't openly complained about being sacked (unless I've missed something). Perhaps he was in the wrong and knows it?

my thoughts exactly.....if i thought i was unfairly sacked i'd be telling anyone willing to listen.......the silence is deafening !

Sorry, don't believe it. Pardew is either very dignified or was given a pay-off not to speak, which kind of makes sense if you consider our chairman doesn't like media attention. I'm angry at Cortese because, even if he does get a strong boss in, which I fear he definitely won't, he has once again returned Saints to the world we thought we'd finally left behind. I'm seriously sick of talking more about the chairman than the team and of people arguing about who is in the wrong or right. Who cares about what goes on off the pitch? Although it seems that's all we ever get to argue about.

Red Duster wrote:
What do you think the first thing Pardew done when he was dismissed? He called his solicitor. What do you think his solicitor said? Don't say anything, while we construct a case against your former employer. Cortese is probably under the same orders from his legal team. It will not go to court and a suitable compensation figure will be agreed to keep Pardew quite.

slugger wrote:

Red Duster wrote: What do you think the first thing Pardew done when he was dismissed? He called his solicitor. What do you think his solicitor said? Don't say anything, while we construct a case against your former employer. Cortese is probably under the same orders from his legal team. It will not go to court and a suitable compensation figure will be agreed to keep Pardew quite.

suppose that he was sacked for footballing reasons.......then none of that makes sense..........for non-footballing reasons it makes perfect sense.......draw your own conclusions.

saint Compo wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Fibber!! You know NOTHING!

My post was not made for fun. On the contrary, it was deadly serious. I would have hoped that my sincerity was evident in my post. I am certainly not a fibber. I am a Saints fan of 55 years standing and love the Saints.

I have made it perfectly clear that I cannot be sure that what I've been told is true. But if it is, it would explain why Cortese has not divulged the reason - he could not possibly do so.

Maybe one day a tabloid paper will get the story (and the evidence to support it so that they can report it without fear of being sued). That's the way things are, I'm afraid.

That's my final post on this story. Comment as you wish, but I will not respond.

Just give this some careful thought and, all of you, do not vent your anger at the wrong target.

COYR

Red Duster wrote:
Not sure about Brown, prefer someone like Adkins.
Its one man one vote and the one man who has the vote is Cortese, I reckon we will know by Friday at the very latest

Red Duster wrote:
Not sure about Brown, prefer someone like Adkins. Its one man one vote and the one man who has the vote is Cortese, I reckon we will know by Friday at the very latest

slugger wrote:

Red Duster wrote: Not sure about Brown, prefer someone like Adkins. Its one man one vote and the one man who has the vote is Cortese, I reckon we will know by Friday at the very latest

that's the beauty of oppinions....no body's right or wrong......you can please all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time......i know little about adkins so can't really comment either way.

nicola cortese is god wrote:

Red Duster wrote: Not sure about Brown, prefer someone like Adkins. Its one man one vote and the one man who has the vote is Cortese, I reckon we will know by Friday at the very latest

why would you rather have adkins out of interest? brown is more succesfull. adkins seems too much of a "nice guy" brown will mix it up a bit.

slugger wrote:

Red Duster wrote:
Not sure about Brown, prefer someone like Adkins. Its one man one vote and the one man who has the vote is Cortese, I reckon we will know by Friday at the very latest

that's the beauty of oppinions....no body's right or wrong......you can please all of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time......i know little about adkins so can't really comment either way.

Legend Saint wrote:

slugger wrote:
afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

Ohhh no. :(

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote:

Saint Bean wrote:

saint Compo wrote: I have heard from a reliable source the reason for Pardew's dismissal. ''Yeah, yeah'', I hear you say. And of course, it may not be reliable. Either way, I am certainly not going to say what that reason was. If (repeat IF) it is true, it is 100% right that Nicola has not divulged it (and I hope that nobody else will) because other people, some innocent, are involved and they would be badly hurt by its revelation. What then is the purpose of this post? Not to encourage speculation nor to tease readers, I assure you. My purpose is to make the point that (if true) Nicola acted in the only way he could. Those of us who have lambasted Nicola (me included in a post last week) should therefore pause to think before we criticise him without knowing why it happened (and did so very suddenly without a replacement already identified). Nicola's only way of explaining and 'justifying' his action would not be an option in the sensitive circumstances surrounding the reason for it (again, if true). His silence would not reflect a secretive attitude on his part but a laudable one. Lest you think I am an apologist for Nicola in the Pardew affair, I do still hold the view that certain other of his actions are very questionable (if not plain wrong, IMO): the abolition of the season ticket payment plan and the photo ban, in particular. I also question whether a 'management' structure (with the Chairman over-influencing player signings and a football 'director' interposed between Chairman and Manager) will work in English football; it doesn't seem to have worked when tried by other clubs. In summary (and with apologies for the repeated 'if true' in this post), we should back off the the slating of Nicola for the Pardew dismissal. Above all, let's keep faith with the players. Their performance in the last 2 matches may well have been affected (very understandably) by what has happened (especially if the reason I have heard is true). 'nuff said. COYR

We all take you point entirely but if you have credibale info about the situation then you should share it in the intrest of the outstanding ability of the posters on this site to slag,****,gossip and speculate about all number of topics not just saints. However i do realise that the people involved should of course remain incognito so dont bloody dangle a carrot and not fess up, spill the beans.

Trust me. You would be horrified, Saint Bean, if I did reveal the reason I have heard. If it's not true, I'd be (rightly) sued for defamation. If it's true, innocent parties would suffer terribly. I couldn't live with that (nor with being sued!). As I said (and given that I cannot even be sure the reason is correct), my purpose is to beg Saints fans not to jump to hasty and totally unfair conclusions about Cortese's actions in the Pardew matter. If the reason is true (or was anything similar in nature), the culpability for this sad episode lies elsewhere, not with Cortese. Yours in Sainthood. Keep the faith. Our Club needs our support, not our castigation at this difficult time. COYR

Fibber!! You know NOTHING!

My post was not made for fun. On the contrary, it was deadly serious. I would have hoped that my sincerity was evident in my post. I am certainly not a fibber. I am a Saints fan of 55 years standing and love the Saints.

I have made it perfectly clear that I cannot be sure that what I've been told is true. But if it is, it would explain why Cortese has not divulged the reason - he could not possibly do so.

Maybe one day a tabloid paper will get the story (and the evidence to support it so that they can report it without fear of being sued). That's the way things are, I'm afraid.

That's my final post on this story. Comment as you wish, but I will not respond.

Just give this some careful thought and, all of you, do not vent your anger at the wrong target.

COYR

Glad it's the last we'll here of it, because it seems like you acually have nothing to say.
I'm not angry, just disappointed that people keep insisting on pretending they're in the know - everyone's heard rumours, and most have been willing to share them. To my knowledge no-one has yet been sued.
It's simple to share by stating that it's a rumour and not mentioning any names (which also protects the 'anonymity' of the 'innocent people involved' that you're worried about). Stop stirring and get on with being supportive of our club.

RedArmy1 wrote:
Osprey Saint - I am cheerful. Like everyone else we want to get to the heart of the problem. Alan Pardew was sacked and no-one really know why. Southampton Football Club have good players but we are all perplexed about the following : 1.Why we did not sign another Striker along with Barnard ? 2. Why is/was David Connolly so highly rated when he does not produce enough goals in this League ? 3. Why did Antonio and Papa Waigo go and not be replaced with goal scoring players with pace ? 4. From the Chapel Arms - why is Bart never given a go beteen the sticks even during JPT and we stick rigidly to Kelvin ? and there are a dozen more questions like that which the Saints Fans reasonably would like answers to !! Regardless Come on Saints - lets do the business on Saturday and get a result !!

WestTottonSaint wrote:
It's never straightforward with saints is it? there is always someone interferring. The headline speaks for itself "Reed the Kingmaker" why? just because he has coached England.

travelling saint wrote:

Legend Saint wrote:

slugger wrote: afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

Ohhh no. :(

Legend its true what i said about slugger, he was definatly crying to the echo on sunday saying he was being picked on by people on here!!! i had a nice little chat with a reporter at the echo!, what a wussssssss.

Legend Saint wrote:

slugger wrote: afternoon all.......still no news then......just goes to show how patient you have to be to be a saints fan.i'm not panicking yet,i'm sure it's a hive of activity behind the scenes !

Ohhh no. :(

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Be careful Bronson....I hear Prattman and Knobin have powerful friends... the Invisible man for instance! :O)

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Be careful Bronson....I hear Prattman and Knobin have powerful friends... the Invisible man for instance! :O)

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: Be careful Bronson....I hear Prattman and Knobin have powerful friends... the Invisible man for instance! :O)

harley's coming down for the bournemouth game (2nd oct) you up for it?.....normal rules apply (chinese take-away and copius amounts of alcohol).

seedhouse wrote:
So Mr Brown thank you for attending the interview for first team coach. It's quite an easy job really as Nicola Corleone picks the team and Sid Little takes the training, however, we will require you to jump about a bit on the touch line, we will let you know when and also when and who to substitute. Obviously having your own ear piece does give you a huge advantage over the others. Now can you repeat: "Yes sir" "Of course sir". Well done. Now we hear that you used to attend fans get togethers when you were at Bolton, that obviously gives us great cause for concern....

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So Mr Brown thank you for attending the interview for first team coach. It's quite an easy job really as Nicola Corleone picks the team and Sid Little takes the training, however, we will require you to jump about a bit on the touch line, we will let you know when and also when and who to substitute. Obviously having your own ear piece does give you a huge advantage over the others. Now can you repeat: "Yes sir" "Of course sir". Well done. Now we hear that you used to attend fans get togethers when you were at Bolton, that obviously gives us great cause for concern....

when was mr brown at bolton ....am i missing somthing ?

seedhouse wrote:

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So Mr Brown thank you for attending the interview for first team coach. It's quite an easy job really as Nicola Corleone picks the team and Sid Little takes the training, however, we will require you to jump about a bit on the touch line, we will let you know when and also when and who to substitute. Obviously having your own ear piece does give you a huge advantage over the others. Now can you repeat: "Yes sir" "Of course sir". Well done. Now we hear that you used to attend fans get togethers when you were at Bolton, that obviously gives us great cause for concern....

when was mr brown at bolton ....am i missing somthing ?

He played at Bolton for years and then was number 2 to Big Sam. I used to live there and a lot of my mates were Bolton fans. He was very popular because he turned up to a lot of things and engaged with them.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: Be careful Bronson....I hear Prattman and Knobin have powerful friends... the Invisible man for instance! :O)

harley's coming down for the bournemouth game (2nd oct) you up for it?.....normal rules apply (chinese take-away and copius amounts of alcohol).

OK...You twisted me arm...you up for the Swindon game?...Mack Chinnon is in the country and will be in attendance....could be we have a new manager to welcome to SMS! :O)

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So Mr Brown thank you for attending the interview for first team coach. It's quite an easy job really as Nicola Corleone picks the team and Sid Little takes the training, however, we will require you to jump about a bit on the touch line, we will let you know when and also when and who to substitute. Obviously having your own ear piece does give you a huge advantage over the others. Now can you repeat: "Yes sir" "Of course sir". Well done. Now we hear that you used to attend fans get togethers when you were at Bolton, that obviously gives us great cause for concern....

when was mr brown at bolton ....am i missing somthing ?

He played at Bolton for years and then was number 2 to Big Sam. I used to live there and a lot of my mates were Bolton fans. He was very popular because he turned up to a lot of things and engaged with them.

ohhhh.......cheers :o)

seedhouse wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:
Osprey Saint - I am cheerful. Like everyone else we want to get to the heart of the problem. Alan Pardew was sacked and no-one really know why. Southampton Football Club have good players but we are all perplexed about the following : 1.Why we did not sign another Striker along with Barnard ? 2. Why is/was David Connolly so highly rated when he does not produce enough goals in this League ? 3. Why did Antonio and Papa Waigo go and not be replaced with goal scoring players with pace ? 4. From the Chapel Arms - why is Bart never given a go beteen the sticks even during JPT and we stick rigidly to Kelvin ? and there are a dozen more questions like that which the Saints Fans reasonably would like answers to !! Regardless Come on Saints - lets do the business on Saturday and get a result !!

I can answer point 3 for you RedArmy as I asked AP that question. Papa wanted to be more than a "super sub" and AP wasn't prepared to guarantee that, plus he really did have a problem with the number of offsides.

AP did want Antonio back and Antonio wanted to come back, but Don Cortese said No.

seedhouse wrote:

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

slugger wrote:

seedhouse wrote: So Mr Brown thank you for attending the interview for first team coach. It's quite an easy job really as Nicola Corleone picks the team and Sid Little takes the training, however, we will require you to jump about a bit on the touch line, we will let you know when and also when and who to substitute. Obviously having your own ear piece does give you a huge advantage over the others. Now can you repeat: "Yes sir" "Of course sir". Well done. Now we hear that you used to attend fans get togethers when you were at Bolton, that obviously gives us great cause for concern....

when was mr brown at bolton ....am i missing somthing ?

He played at Bolton for years and then was number 2 to Big Sam. I used to live there and a lot of my mates were Bolton fans. He was very popular because he turned up to a lot of things and engaged with them.

ohhhh.......cheers :o)

Have a look at his wiki page. He was caretaker at Bolton when they got rid of Todd and won 4 out of 5. Then he was assistant to Allardyce for 6 years, having previously been his asistant at Blackpool. He replaced Burley at Derby but it didn't work out but then had a good spell at Hull. He's been charged with misconduct a few times, 3 times in 1 season!, so obviously passionate. He's been loyal, he's passionate and he's come out and said he wants the job. Sounds good to me.

EAGLESAINT wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote: Osprey Saint - I am cheerful. Like everyone else we want to get to the heart of the problem. Alan Pardew was sacked and no-one really know why. Southampton Football Club have good players but we are all perplexed about the following : 1.Why we did not sign another Striker along with Barnard ? 2. Why is/was David Connolly so highly rated when he does not produce enough goals in this League ? 3. Why did Antonio and Papa Waigo go and not be replaced with goal scoring players with pace ? 4. From the Chapel Arms - why is Bart never given a go beteen the sticks even during JPT and we stick rigidly to Kelvin ? and there are a dozen more questions like that which the Saints Fans reasonably would like answers to !! Regardless Come on Saints - lets do the business on Saturday and get a result !!

I can answer point 3 for you RedArmy as I asked AP that question. Papa wanted to be more than a "super sub" and AP wasn't prepared to guarantee that, plus he really did have a problem with the number of offsides. AP did want Antonio back and Antonio wanted to come back, but Don Cortese said No.

hopefully we may get the answers thursday night/friday morning, i had a text from a friend of mine who's been invited to a meeting with NC along with a few other ST holders, i think we all know the reason for AP departure and hope for it to be made public, as i have no problem with NC for sacking pardew for this reason, if this story was not true then AP would have had something to say about it, he also did this at WHam, NC needs to know that that we have no problem sacking AP as managers must be seen as the one all look upto, he may be trying to protect the player but enough of us know the rumour and it has'nt affected his game, so come on and lets get it out in the open AND MOVE FORWARD

seedhouse wrote:
The BBC have just reported the floods in Pakistan are being blamed on a suicide plumber.

Now little Mohammed doesn't have to walk three miles a day to fetch water, do you I should ask for my two quid a month back?

slugger wrote:
i know iv'e posted it before but it makes me grin............did you hear that stevie wonder recieved a cheese grater for his birthday ?.......he said it was the most violent book that he'd ever read !....boom boom

seedhouse wrote:
A jewish man goes to the Pompey ticket office and asks for a season ticket. "Are you circumcised?" asks the fat cow. "Of course" he replys. "I'm sorry" says the fat cow, "You have to be a complete knob to support Portsmouth."

seedhouse wrote:
A jewish man goes to the Pompey ticket office and asks for a season ticket. "Are you circumcised?" asks the fat cow. "Of course" he replys. "I'm sorry" says the fat cow, "You have to be a complete knob to support Portsmouth."

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I went down to the fairground the other night and had a right laugh....they had one of those things you punch as hard as you can....a pikey! :O)

slugger wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: I went down to the fairground the other night and had a right laugh....they had one of those things you punch as hard as you can....a pikey! :O)

and the all time classic............w hat key can opoen any door ?

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I went down to the fairground the other night and had a right laugh....they had one of those things you punch as hard as you can....a pikey! :O)

Bronson69 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: I went down to the fairground the other night and had a right laugh....they had one of those things you punch as hard as you can....a pikey! :O)

Be careful at fairs bill , you might bump into the beast from bodmin ! :)

Bronson69 wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: I went down to the fairground the other night and had a right laugh....they had one of those things you punch as hard as you can....a pikey! :O)

Be careful at fairs bill , you might bump into the beast from bodmin ! :)

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

SaintHarry wrote:
Saints have opened talks with Adkins according to SSN...

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote: Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

ha ha welcome to the cause!!!!

Tirau Dan wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote: Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

This from the CEO of a company that sponsored Alan Pardew. I merely ask people to stop slagging at The Chairman but went a step further and dared to ask that if the major sponsor of the Manager of SFC was aying such terrible things about Nicola Cortese why is it not all over the nation press. Why? Because he isn't and it's not true. Why doesn't the Echo put a stop to the insults against those who support or at least ask for patience re. The Chairman? Perhaps the rumour is true that they are staff stirring as said by an ex staff member. Now call me names.. Good Luck to you.

puppy saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

Everyone is one post away from being a "self opinionated, pretentious, pompous ......?"

saint Compo wrote:
If the reason I've heard for his sacking is correct, there's no way Pardew will make any claim against Saints for wrongful dismissal. If he does, then I have probably been misinformed.

COYR

travelling saint wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote:
Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

ha ha welcome to the cause!!!!

Sainty saint saint wrote:

saint Compo wrote: If the reason I've heard for his sacking is correct, there's no way Pardew will make any claim against Saints for wrongful dismissal. If he does, then I have probably been misinformed. COYR

So much for it being the last we hear from you on the matter...

Tirau Dan wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote: Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

This from the CEO of a company that sponsored Alan Pardew. I merely ask people to stop slagging at The Chairman but went a step further and dared to ask that if the major sponsor of the Manager of SFC was aying such terrible things about Nicola Cortese why is it not all over the nation press. Why? Because he isn't and it's not true. Why doesn't the Echo put a stop to the insults against those who support or at least ask for patience re. The Chairman? Perhaps the rumour is true that they are staff stirring as said by an ex staff member. Now call me names.. Good Luck to you.

seedhouse wrote:
Les Thelonius Reed (honest!!) as a player was on the books of Cambridge United, Wycombe Wanderers and Watford, but didn't play a single game for any of them. However, it was in coaching he made his name, initially at Woodford Town then at Finchley and Wealdstone. In LTR I trust......

seedhouse wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:

seedhouse wrote:

IanRRR wrote: Can anyone explain to me what is going on with these people slagging Slugger, Bill, and Dan lately? They are all legends of this site, with respected opinions. Take it its a skate campaign?

Dunno why they are slagging Slugger and Bill but I presume the slagging of Dan is due to him being a self opinionated, pretentious, pompous twatt?

This from the CEO of a company that sponsored Alan Pardew. I merely ask people to stop slagging at The Chairman but went a step further and dared to ask that if the major sponsor of the Manager of SFC was aying such terrible things about Nicola Cortese why is it not all over the nation press. Why? Because he isn't and it's not true. Why doesn't the Echo put a stop to the insults against those who support or at least ask for patience re. The Chairman? Perhaps the rumour is true that they are staff stirring as said by an ex staff member. Now call me names.. Good Luck to you.

Dan what are you on about? I haven't said any "terrible things" about NC. What I have said is that I have grave concerns about the way he is running the club.

Put The AP sacking to one side. There has been a succession of falling outs whether with the Echo, the national media, Franny Benali, members of staff and suppliers.

The club is wealthy so could easily have allowed supporters to pay in installments for their season tickets, indeed that would have increased profitability by selling more and kept the gates up, particularly if we have a bad run. Alienating staff by charging for parking is nonsensical.

I am as grateful as anyone else to NC for his part in saving our club. As stated before I really hope to come on here and eat huge slices of humble pie one day because that means he would have been successful, united the club and the fans and all would be well.

My problem with you was your criticism of me expressing my opinion which I am fully entitled to do. Have a read of "view from the chapel", tab at top. That is a well written article and one I concur with.

NC has to show us all now that he has a plan and he is going to make that plan work - I hope he does. If he fails then he should be replaced same as any other employee of the club including the manager.