Chaplow back to face Lions (From Daily Echo)

Everyone is pleased that Richard Chaplow is back in business.

Off subject - Lookin' forward to West Ham and Watford Away. (should be tasty !!)

On the Saints Forum or on this site - the meeting up pub/s should appear and it's always good to have the Saints Fans all together ....

www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=bskTVE1z-7A

Whether travelling by train car van coach tube etc ...

At least 30 minutes before kick off ... in the bar at the ground ...

www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=pFN3RqXZM4g

Post the times for the Train - to get it going on the way up and celebrating the WIN on the way back ...

www.youtube.com/watc
h?v=OvpJn454sUo


Cracking through the Season and not that many more games to go ...

WE WANT TO WIN EVERY GAME.

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=1EocW4RO5
Gc

WE ARE TOP DOGS IN THE SOUTH.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. COYR

Great to see Chappie back. Good luck tonight.

At bloody last. We've missed him.

Frustrating perhaps but the ethos of only bringing a player when he is right should pay dividends come May. Sure we have missed him but how much more would we if he had played one and missed another 4 or 5?
Pleased to see some of the players get a run out tonight - is it me but I just don't think tonight is that important?
Just hope the police respond to the disruption after the league game with them earlier this season. Forget human rights - keep them in for 30-mins afterwards! Open the bars or something for a hot drink - after all we're not savages!

St.Yorkie wrote:
Frustrating perhaps but the ethos of only bringing a player when he is right should pay dividends come May. Sure we have missed him but how much more would we if he had played one and missed another 4 or 5?
Pleased to see some of the players get a run out tonight - is it me but I just don't think tonight is that important?
Just hope the police respond to the disruption after the league game with them earlier this season. Forget human rights - keep them in for 30-mins afterwards! Open the bars or something for a hot drink - after all we're not savages!

Unlike that lot down the road.

Loved Gossies email to FA and their response. I'm as excited as a dog with two dicks.

i hope there's a decent home turn-out tonight. we showed the brum fans that bothered to show up on saturday what good away support is. there home support was embarrassing. i just hope we can show the millwall lot, that are likely to turn up in numbers, what a good home crowd is (bearing in mind it's a tuesday night, fa cup replay etc) COYR!!!

Licky_Rambert wrote:
i hope there's a decent home turn-out tonight. we showed the brum fans that bothered to show up on saturday what good away support is. there home support was embarrassing. i just hope we can show the millwall lot, that are likely to turn up in numbers, what a good home crowd is (bearing in mind it's a tuesday night, fa cup replay etc) COYR!!!

Good Call Licky_Rambert ..

COYR

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
At bloody last. We've missed him.

With you on this Chappers was the best player in 2011 He made us tick always in the thick of the action We have missed that heart beat in the middle Keep fit Chappers we need you

13 points out of 36 - WOW!! Thats completely different to the start of the season. Welcome back Chappers.

Come on then Saints, it's time to end this season how we started!!!!

COYRs

It's so close now you can smell it:


Andronikou asks for council funds to help Pompey. By Joe Nimmo
Published on Tuesday 7 February 2012 09:29

ANDREW Andronikou has asked Portsmouth City Council if it could contribute funds to help Pompey.

At a meeting with council leader, Cllr Gerald Vernon-Jackson, and council chief executive David Williams, the Convers Sports Initiatives administrator raised the subject of whether the local authority could directly assist the embattled football club.

The men met at the Marriott hotel, in North Harbour, on Friday at Mr Andronikou’s request so he could provide an update on the administration of CSI and its effect on Pompey.

The meeting came as Cllr Vernon-Jackson said he would write to Prime Minister David Cameron to ask that HMRC’s winding-up petition be withdrawn.

He said: ‘We were talking about what is going on in terms of the administration of CSI.

‘Mr Andronikou is clearly not happy to be having to do this work again.

‘His inevitable question was “would the council put in money?” and I said no; the council doesn’t have any money.’

He added: ‘His job is to be working in the interests of the creditors and our interest is in safeguarding the football club and those two interests are not always the same thing.

‘What I’m absolutely convinced of is that David Lampitt and the people at the football club are working as hard as possible to try to find a long-term solution for the football club.’

Cllr Vernon-Jackson said that he also felt the Prime Minister should follow through on his words last week in the House of Commons, when he told Portsmouth North MP Penny Mordaunt he would try and help the club.

‘I think it is important that if the Prime Minister offers help that action follows that,’ he said.

‘He is the head of the government and HMRC is a branch of that government.

‘So if he tells them to withdraw their winding-up petition them presumably they have to do what they are told.

‘It would give Pompey more time and it would be the right thing to do, because we are not in this situation because of anything the club has done.

‘This is down to its parent company and is different than last time.’

Following a News-backed meeting of fans and city leaders two weeks ago, the CSI administrator has now agreed to meet fans’ groups trying to save the club, but no date has yet been set for this to take place.

Looking forward to seeing Tadanari too tonight - with him and Chappers we should have some real energy on the pitch.

On a more downbeat note, I couldn't get my regular season ticket seat tonight. The last time this happened, in September, at the following home match, gripping the edge of my seat in a moment of tension, I discovered the previous transient occupant of my seat had stuck a sizeable bogie on it. Not Saintly and very annoying. A polite but firm pre-match speaker announcement requesting that bogies are properly disposed of would not be at all out of place.

Heard that a mystery lottery winner has offered to buy Poopey. Apparently, lucky skate got three numbers up on Saturday.

St.Yorkie wrote:
Frustrating perhaps but the ethos of only bringing a player when he is right should pay dividends come May. Sure we have missed him but how much more would we if he had played one and missed another 4 or 5?
Pleased to see some of the players get a run out tonight - is it me but I just don't think tonight is that important?
Just hope the police respond to the disruption after the league game with them earlier this season. Forget human rights - keep them in for 30-mins afterwards! Open the bars or something for a hot drink - after all we're not savages!

I got a Tweet from Steve Moran yesterday, you remember him I trust, do you know his most memorable goal ?.
Not the best one, not his first ones but the one at Fratton in 1984, try telling him the Cup is not important.
It would be a sad day if this competition disappears.It has provided most Saints fans with some of their best memories.
Terry Paine, in the last edition of the Pink, highlights the money that it can bring in to amateur and lower league Clubs.
Premier giants might use it as a game for their reserve and fringe players, indeed our Manc friends decided not to bother one year and sold their soul.
This competition needs us and every fan of our beautiful game.

Didn't you inform us of this yesterday ?? well done on printing the exact same story worded slightly differently.

They're coming for you,
They're coming for yoooooooou,
HMRC,
They're coming for you.....

It's not unknown for the government to step in to exclude some things from being taxed, but it's usually for charities not businesses.

As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Team? I reckon

Bailowski
Richardson Jose Martin Harding
Prado Chappers Harding Punch
Lee Lambert (or Connelly)

The Skates will get out of this some how we know it and so do they life without out fishy friends will be dull

SaintMax wrote:
Team? I reckon

Bailowski
Richardson Jose Martin Harding
Prado Chappers Harding Punch
Lee Lambert (or Connelly)

Have we signed a new player or are you suggesting Dan tries Karate on Tanadari San ?.

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
They're coming for you,
They're coming for yoooooooou,
HMRC,
They're coming for you.....

I see Stavros is asking PCC to contribute towards the finances at PFC, I'm sure the hard up council tax payers will be overjoyed at this little gem of an idea. It's not as if there is a recession or times are hard, just where do these people get off?

We bit the bullet, took our medicine and moved on. We were bought from the Dark Lord and his cronies because we were a viable business, not a freak show basket case! All I ever hear is that PFC should be treated leniently, that it's not the football club or it's supporters fault that things have gone pear-shaped! I disagree, it was fine with no questions asked when they were buying the FA cup! And as for having the best supporters in the land, do me a favour! If that was the case why could they never fill they're shed when playing the likes of Man Utd?

If they get away with the mess they created then it leaves the way open for others to do the same, with a two fingered salute to the tax man and the small businesses that would surely go out of existence because of monies owed! I also want to see the FA/FL become more involved, just when are they going to impose a points deduction? They were always extremely quick to hit other teams including ourselves, you may also remember that the authorities stated that we couldn't appeal our punishment otherwise they'd block our sale to ML! Anyway, rant over!

Back on topic, I hope Chappers gets through tonight unscathed. Last thing we need is a setback due to a cup game, its far more important for him to be fit for Saturday! I have to admit it's a great feeling knowing that we can almost send out our strongest side, something that has been missing for quite a while. Hopefully we can get back our winning mentality
and push on for the rest of the season, it's going to be one hell of a ride with some more twists to come! COYR's FOP!

GX Saint wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

bill sykes dog bullseye now called rosie

The skates wont get out of this one. Cameron cannot tell HMRC to back off. The players haven't been paid. Chainrai has a charge over all the assets (Farton Park and the Players) and wants his 17m back. The club isn't worth 17m so no buyer in sight.

My prediction is HMRC gives some space on 20th Feb. Chainrai puts a little cash into to get to end of season. Then all players sold and FP sold. Then liquidated.

angus mc coatup wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

bill sykes dog bullseye now called rosie

Taking the Micawber....

"Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure, £18,999,999.99, result happiness. Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure £64 million, result misery."

Confucious wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

bill sykes dog bullseye now called rosie

Taking the Micawber....

"Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure, £18,999,999.99, result happiness. Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure £64 million, result misery."

great administrations

Mowyjoe wrote:

Confucious wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

bill sykes dog bullseye now called rosie

Taking the Micawber....

"Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure, £18,999,999.99, result happiness. Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure £64 million, result misery."

great administrations

OUR MUTUAL FRIEND or hmrc as he's called these days

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Classic !!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skates wont get out of this one. Cameron cannot tell HMRC to back off. The players haven't been paid. Chainrai has a charge over all the assets (Farton Park and the Players) and wants his 17m back. The club isn't worth 17m so no buyer in sight. My prediction is HMRC gives some space on 20th Feb. Chainrai puts a little cash into to get to end of season. Then all players sold and FP sold. Then liquidated.

The wheels of the legal process never turn patricularly quickly, so I imagine the HMRC hearing isn't going to be particularly dramatic. They'll probably just set a date for a next hearing and nothing much will come of it. However, this is by the by as by far the bigger threat is their total lack of operating capital. They can get by without paying the players but without money for essential costs associated with staging a game they're buggered.

Chainrai's over this week, apparently, so he'll either decide to stick a bit of cash in or just think "Why bother?".

I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

Tonight - what can we expect ..

SAINTS to score .. (Get In)

millwall to be bad losers and their fans to try and get across the barrier ...

same old millwall

Red Army.... Red Army ... Red Army...
Red Army ....Red Army

COYR

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. It’s a Tale of 2 Cities (Happy Red and Bitter Blue) .... Personally, I thought Dickens was a kn*b, I prefer the ramblings of that profound Southampton poet laureate Benny Hill

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure? People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter. The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts. It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

If Pompey go bust and points against them wiped out, we would go ahead of West Ham. So wishing for their demise and for our return to the Premier League are linked.

Personally I'm not that bothered what happens to them but I am enjoying watching them squirm.

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

I think most of the posts on here are just reactions to the skates giving us grief when we where in the mire and they just see a chance of a bit of retribution.Most saints fans don't want to see them go bust and disappear they just want to see them treate thesame as we where and get a points deduction.as they seem to operate outside the law and get away with all sorts.I hope they survive but get the proper punishment andare treated the same as everybody else

Good to have Chaplow back but it’s nonsense to say that our great early season form and a dip from early December was down to him playing or not. He hardly if ever got a start for the first ten or so games.


I was astonished that Connolly started in Birmingham. He has been poor for a fair while now – practically anonymous against Forest and Milwall.


I believe we should put a strong team out tonight. Beat Bolton at home (who will be way under strength given their parlous league position) and we are one game away from a Wembley semi-final. With lots of the top teams out, anything is possible. Having said that, if we do play a weakened side, I would like to see Reeves play again – he was probably our best player in the first Millwall game, certainly in the first half.

Good to have Chaplow back but it’s nonsense to say that our great early season form and a dip from early December was down to him playing or not. He hardly if ever got a start for the first ten or so games.


I was astonished that Connolly started in Birmingham. He has been poor for a fair while now – practically anonymous against Forest and Milwall.


I believe we should put a strong team out tonight. Beat Bolton at home (who will be way under strength given their parlous league position) and we are one game away from a Wembley semi-final. With lots of the top teams out, anything is possible. Having said that, if we do play a weakened side, I would like to see Reeves play again – he was probably our best player in the first Millwall game, certainly in the first half.

angus mc coatup wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

I think most of the posts on here are just reactions to the skates giving us grief when we where in the mire and they just see a chance of a bit of retribution.Most saints fans don't want to see them go bust and disappear they just want to see them treate thesame as we where and get a points deduction.as they seem to operate outside the law and get away with all sorts.I hope they survive but get the proper punishment andare treated the same as everybody else

Points deduction we please most fans, like all the other clubs that lost points for bad housekeeping,but will the football league act, time will tell, don't put them out of business who will we laugh at !!!!

George is on the whinge again.
Take into consideration some fans posted on the Pompey site offering help and even to come down help swell their gate for one match.. Some Pompey fans werepleased with the idea. Others made threats about what would happen if they did. Now there lies the rub George.
The thing is portsmouth do not own their ground, which is in decay. They have no training facilities and a low player value.
They are looking for a buyer for 17m. Saints were sold 2.5 yearsago for 14.5m. With solid assetts such as the ground and training ground. pompey's value is only around 4m in their current position.
does Chanari take the club back with all its debts, or does he smell the coffee, leave the club to drown and keep the ground for future real estate deals. Once the council realise there is no pompey to come back.
The truth is they are a poorly supported club of about 11000 die hards. they cannot even break even.
I get no joy out of seeing any club in this situation. The people of pompey have not exactly risen to the cause though. Their support turning out to be very fickle.
The questin is does Chanari throw good money after bad or wipe his hands and take the loss.

Sfctrucker wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

george chivers wrote: I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure? People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter. The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts. It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

I think most of the posts on here are just reactions to the skates giving us grief when we where in the mire and they just see a chance of a bit of retribution.Most saints fans don't want to see them go bust and disappear they just want to see them treate thesame as we where and get a points deduction.as they seem to operate outside the law and get away with all sorts.I hope they survive but get the proper punishment andare treated the same as everybody else

Points deduction we please most fans, like all the other clubs that lost points for bad housekeeping,but will the football league act, time will tell, don't put them out of business who will we laugh at !!!!

If they get put out of business they'll start a new club and rise up through the leagues, so there will always be something/someone to laugh at. I'm starting to think it's the least they deserve.

angus mc coatup wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

I think most of the posts on here are just reactions to the skates giving us grief when we where in the mire and they just see a chance of a bit of retribution.Most saints fans don't want to see them go bust and disappear they just want to see them treate thesame as we where and get a points deduction.as they seem to operate outside the law and get away with all sorts.I hope they survive but get the proper punishment andare treated the same as everybody else

Difficult one. I love football, I love Saints, I don't like Pompey and would quite like to see them liquidated. Then again, I would like to see Man U and Man City liquidated too. That's football, the beautiful game: the joy of a reverse pass, a headed goal across the keeper, a swerving free kick into the top corner, a one on one with the keeper, switching from 4-4-2 to a sweeper with good effect. And watching Pompey implode.

You could hear the hoof beats pound,
As they raced across the ground,
And the clatter of the wheels,
As they spun round and round,
And he galloped into Chapel Rd,
His Saints badge upon his chest,
His name was Ernie,
And he drove the fastest milk cart in the South

Now Ernie loved a widow,
A lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Linley Lane,
At number twenty two.
They said she was too good for him,
She was haughty, proud and chic,
But Ernie got his Saints mug filled,
Three times every week.
They called him Ernie,
And he drove the fastest milk cart in the South.

Dickens my arsse!!! Benny wins every time

I’d like to see Saints give it a good go tonight. Nigel needs to get the blend right with the youth he wants to blood, mixed with experience. Fergie has been a successful advocate of this for years. Chaplow will be a major plus for us for the season run in. COYR

milton road wrote:
George is on the whinge again.
Take into consideration some fans posted on the Pompey site offering help and even to come down help swell their gate for one match.. Some Pompey fans werepleased with the idea. Others made threats about what would happen if they did. Now there lies the rub George.
The thing is portsmouth do not own their ground, which is in decay. They have no training facilities and a low player value.
They are looking for a buyer for 17m. Saints were sold 2.5 yearsago for 14.5m. With solid assetts such as the ground and training ground. pompey's value is only around 4m in their current position.
does Chanari take the club back with all its debts, or does he smell the coffee, leave the club to drown and keep the ground for future real estate deals. Once the council realise there is no pompey to come back.
The truth is they are a poorly supported club of about 11000 die hards. they cannot even break even.
I get no joy out of seeing any club in this situation. The people of pompey have not exactly risen to the cause though. Their support turning out to be very fickle.
The questin is does Chanari throw good money after bad or wipe his hands and take the loss.

I'm not whinging Milton Rd just expressing a point of view.

Because it is different than your point of view it doesn't make it a whinge. My whole point is people complain about negative posts and then do just that themselves.

Some posts on here that are written off as negative are constructively critical
But because they are outside of what the majority think are written off as negative. Not what the majority (group) think.

Regarding the negative reaction of some Pompey fans to the offer of extra support from Saints fans, just ignore it. Stay at home if the situation bothers you. The same thing would happen if the situation were reversed.

Personally I hope they find a buyer but I do realise the odds are against that given the circumstances. For me Southern (Hampshire Football) will poorer without them. But what will be will be.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
The skates wont get out of this one. Cameron cannot tell HMRC to back off. The players haven't been paid. Chainrai has a charge over all the assets (Farton Park and the Players) and wants his 17m back. The club isn't worth 17m so no buyer in sight.

My prediction is HMRC gives some space on 20th Feb. Chainrai puts a little cash into to get to end of season. Then all players sold and FP sold. Then liquidated.

Cameron could call a national day of mourning though once they've gone. It'll be like North Korea all over again after the tragic loss of Kim Jong Il.

I can hear David Dimbleby's commentary now: "And the Solent is visibly rising now as the tears of millions flow down into those historic waters; and there's Nelson's Victory, lovingly preserved for the nation, whilst PFC, this treasured and great flagship of football's noble fleet, was fated to sink into this famous harbour....."

Snuffle, choke, sniff....it's all too much for me.

Licky_Rambert wrote:
i hope there's a decent home turn-out tonight. we showed the brum fans that bothered to show up on saturday what good away support is. there home support was embarrassing. i just hope we can show the millwall lot, that are likely to turn up in numbers, what a good home crowd is (bearing in mind it's a tuesday night, fa cup replay etc) COYR!!!

Only gonna be about 6000 there tonight I'm afraid. 250-400 millwall.

Very disappointing unless there's a flood of tickets sold this afternoon!

Thorshammer wrote:

St.Yorkie wrote:
Frustrating perhaps but the ethos of only bringing a player when he is right should pay dividends come May. Sure we have missed him but how much more would we if he had played one and missed another 4 or 5?
Pleased to see some of the players get a run out tonight - is it me but I just don't think tonight is that important?
Just hope the police respond to the disruption after the league game with them earlier this season. Forget human rights - keep them in for 30-mins afterwards! Open the bars or something for a hot drink - after all we're not savages!

I got a Tweet from Steve Moran yesterday, you remember him I trust, do you know his most memorable goal ?.
Not the best one, not his first ones but the one at Fratton in 1984, try telling him the Cup is not important.
It would be a sad day if this competition disappears.It has provided most Saints fans with some of their best memories.
Terry Paine, in the last edition of the Pink, highlights the money that it can bring in to amateur and lower league Clubs.
Premier giants might use it as a game for their reserve and fringe players, indeed our Manc friends decided not to bother one year and sold their soul.
This competition needs us and every fan of our beautiful game.

Totally agree.

Tweet Steve back and tell him he gave me one of the best memories of my life.

My Dad had died a few days earlier (at St Mary's, Portsmouth, as it happens), so I was still feeling the pain as we stood in the Milton End discussing when we'd need to queue for tickets to the reply.

Then .......

Thank you Steve. A Saints legend.

(Not forgetting his first against Man City or winner at Anfield, of course).

thing is George they have been in this situation for a few months and the people have not turned up in their hour of need. Pompey's blue few have been getting fewer if anything. The People who could of helped the club at least pay the wages and HMRC are the people that live there. Guess what they are conspicuous by their absence.
The club is not viable as it is. I hope it survives in some form. Would miss the banter, alot of it tongue in cheek.

As for tonight hope Saints make it through, the chance to take another premiership scalp would be cool.
COYR

franiow wrote:
It's not unknown for the government to step in to exclude some things from being taxed, but it's usually for charities not businesses.

How they still haven't been docked points yet taxes me, Fran.

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Ha! Very good.

Your next job is to think of some sea shanties:

'what do we do with a sunken footy club' etc.

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Now Ernie loved a widow,
A lady known as Sue,
She lived all alone in Linley Lane,
At number twenty two.
They said she was too good for him,
She was haughty, proud and chic,
But Ernie got his Saints mug filled,
Three times every week.
They called him Ernie,
And he drove the fastest milk cart in the South.

Dickens my arsse!!! Benny wins every time

They won't forget Ernie!

Every few decades we find ourselves stuck for a couple of years in the same division as poopey, and the feeling of rivalry grows, but most of the time we are in different divisions, and then it's poopey who. Does it really matter what happens to them? They aren't important to us most of the time.

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

George, it's like this.

If PFC folds, there will still be Skates to banter with and, as Retford says above and I have said elsewhere, they'll rise from the ashes and, in time, bounce back.

My personal negativity (as you put it) and desire to see them sink has little to do with it being them and EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club going back as far as when Milan first saved them with money earned in the arms trade.

Now, I could forgive skates for not objecting to that. If a rather shady buyer had come along 2 years ago when we were running out of time, I'd probably have accepted.

Since then, however, shady owner after shady owner has stepped in; unchallenged by anyone from the FA to the Bell End Boy and they've over-spent their way to 3 trips to Wembley.

Once more, I could live with most of this.

I could even live with the vile abuse many gave when things looked bleak for us because others showed a more generos spirit.

BUT, the final nail for me was the 1-4 FA Cup match. They couldn't afford to pay the tea lady but they were permitted (and chose) to retain and pay their loanees who were pivotal in that result and subsequent results on the way to the final.

Isn't that enough for you to realise that their liquidation would actually be GOOD for football and might help change the culture which makes life so tough for clubs like, say, Bournemouth and so easy for clubs like, say, Chelsea?

Let them rot! They’ll be back one day.

Really looking forward to tonight and hope we put a decent side out - with a home game waiting in the next round if we can get past Millwall we have a great chance of progressing in this competition now. Really looking forward to seeing Chappers back and Lee get a start.
On the Poopey discussion I would not like them to go out of buisness - I know what it feels like to nearly loose your club and I would not wish that on anyone but I do hope they get the points deduction that they rightfully deserve - us and other clubs have taken the points deduction on similar circumstances and Poopey should be no different.

"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. It’s a Tale of 2 Cities (Happy Red and Bitter Blue) .... Personally, I thought Dickens was a kn*b, I prefer the ramblings of that profound Southampton poet laureate Benny Hill

ok mush I have to agree benny hill wins hands down and a southampton boy to boot.but we can still have a chuckle or two about the goings on down the road
A TALE OF TWO CITIES how fitting is that judging by the gulf in the state of the respective clubs.

Swissowned wrote:

Licky_Rambert wrote:
i hope there's a decent home turn-out tonight. we showed the brum fans that bothered to show up on saturday what good away support is. there home support was embarrassing. i just hope we can show the millwall lot, that are likely to turn up in numbers, what a good home crowd is (bearing in mind it's a tuesday night, fa cup replay etc) COYR!!!

Only gonna be about 6000 there tonight I'm afraid. 250-400 millwall.

Very disappointing unless there's a flood of tickets sold this afternoon!

Most important thing is for a good turn out at the Weekend for our next League Game vs burnley .... and really getting behind the lads ..

(Fatty X will be sinking a gallon of ale in the Josh Tree .. Needs to watch the game to see SAINTS get a good WIN.)

Then the Away Game to West Hoooooooof where the Away Squad have snapped up all the tickets.

Some "tasty games" coming up ...

no-one cares about millwall .. or their supporters ..

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.
NUMBER 1#TEAM IN THE SOUTH.

RED ARMY. COYR

Billy Sharp is not cup tied, he did not play for Donny against Notts County!! Lets hope he plays up front with Lee..

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

That!

Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Mowyjoe wrote:

Confucious wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:
As it's charles dickens 200th birthday today and he was a born and bred skate,I thought we might draw some comparisons on modern portsmouthby renaming the titles and characters of his books.first up it's got to be A TALE OF TWO CITIES no clues needed there.no 2 has to be BLEAK HOUSE or fratton park a it's now called.HARD TIMES rings a bell or THE BATTLE OF LIFE and what about oliver twist with redknapp as the artful dodger and maderic as fagin.or SEVEN POOR TRAVELLERS the story of pompey away support.anyway use your imagination and feel free to take the p!ss i look foreward to some good badinage as dickins might have said.

Skate-ches by Boz

bill sykes dog bullseye now called rosie

Taking the Micawber....

"Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure, £18,999,999.99, result happiness. Annual income £19 million, annual expenditure £64 million, result misery."

great administrations

Great Expectorations! Makes you spit don't it!

PGA- wrote:
Billy Sharp is not cup tied, he did not play for Donny against Notts County!! Lets hope he plays up front with Lee..

Not cup tied, but ineligible as he wasn't involved in the original fixture, or so I am led to believe.

PGA- wrote:
Billy Sharp is not cup tied, he did not play for Donny against Notts County!! Lets hope he plays up front with Lee..

Not from me but from those who know, because he wasn't available to play for us in the fixture at The New Den (stupid name) he's cup-tied tonight.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

PGA- wrote:
Billy Sharp is not cup tied, he did not play for Donny against Notts County!! Lets hope he plays up front with Lee..

Not cup tied, but ineligible as he wasn't involved in the original fixture, or so I am led to believe.

****! You beat me this time!

Bl00dy peasant!

Thorshammer wrote:

SaintMax wrote:
Team? I reckon

Bailowski
Richardson Jose Martin Harding
Prado Chappers Harding Punch
Lee Lambert (or Connelly)

Have we signed a new player or are you suggesting Dan tries Karate on Tanadari San ?.

I guess you meant Hammond, one Harding is too many for some on here! Also Tadanari (I keep typing Tanadari!) Lee, rather than Lee Holmes or Lee Barnard. Connelly is Connolly, Bart Bialkowski is how it is spelt, respect your players by spelling their names correctly, now was it Ostemibor, Otstemerbor, oh blow it. Pity Fox isn't available I can spell that one right.

Team tonight
Bart Dan Jose Aaron Luke
Guly Chappers Deano Steeeeve
Lee Lee

Kelvin Stephens Frazer Ward-P
Adam Reeves Lambert

COYR

Is the West Ham game sold out? Buzzing for it, taking the Mrs for Valentines Day...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

That!

Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976.

So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

That!

Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976.

So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

I can't speak for Seedhouse, but, had that been the case, I would have been happy to see the same fate for them as for us ..... a points deduction and relegation.

Re Poopey and the so-far non-existent points deduction: is it because it is CSI that is in administration not (allegedly) the club itself, and they are waiting for the deadline to pass after which the points will be deducted next season, before putting the club into administration as well, thus saving their Championship status for next season? Just a thought.

Regarding tonight, do we care that Millwall don't care if everybody hates them and if so do they care that we don't care they don't care - or indeed do we care that they don't care that we don't care they don't care?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

That!

Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976.

So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

I can't speak for Seedhouse, but, had that been the case, I would have been happy to see the same fate for them as for us ..... a points deduction and relegation.

George
I can understand you are being the voice of reason here but where Pompey are concerned there is no reasoning.They are a badly run club with the most obnoxious nasty supporters I have come across (and I remember West Ham and Chelsea in the 70's)Common sense says you make sure your revenue bill is paid on time and if they end up going to the wall so be it.Could be the man who was responsible for much of the overspending will be found guilty in the courts today.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

George, it's like this.

If PFC folds, there will still be Skates to banter with and, as Retford says above and I have said elsewhere, they'll rise from the ashes and, in time, bounce back.

My personal negativity (as you put it) and desire to see them sink has little to do with it being them and EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club going back as far as when Milan first saved them with money earned in the arms trade.

Now, I could forgive skates for not objecting to that. If a rather shady buyer had come along 2 years ago when we were running out of time, I'd probably have accepted.

Since then, however, shady owner after shady owner has stepped in; unchallenged by anyone from the FA to the Bell End Boy and they've over-spent their way to 3 trips to Wembley.

Once more, I could live with most of this.

I could even live with the vile abuse many gave when things looked bleak for us because others showed a more generos spirit.

BUT, the final nail for me was the 1-4 FA Cup match. They couldn't afford to pay the tea lady but they were permitted (and chose) to retain and pay their loanees who were pivotal in that result and subsequent results on the way to the final.

Isn't that enough for you to realise that their liquidation would actually be GOOD for football and might help change the culture which makes life so tough for clubs like, say, Bournemouth and so easy for clubs like, say, Chelsea?

Let them rot! They’ll be back one day.

Quality post, couldn't put it better myself! By the way George, are you by any chance a Social Worker? :o)

arrythecrook wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
"Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir.

George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds.

It's you who doesn't get it.

That!

Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976.

So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

I can't speak for Seedhouse, but, had that been the case, I would have been happy to see the same fate for them as for us ..... a points deduction and relegation.

George
I can understand you are being the voice of reason here but where Pompey are concerned there is no reasoning.They are a badly run club with the most obnoxious nasty supporters I have come across (and I remember West Ham and Chelsea in the 70's)Common sense says you make sure your revenue bill is paid on time and if they end up going to the wall so be it.Could be the man who was responsible for much of the overspending will be found guilty in the courts today.

You miss my point 'Arry. The point is if people don't want negative posts on this site. Or perceived negative posts then that has to apply to all posts. PFC can't be the exception despite the very good reasons give by a number of people including yourself. If people can post negatively about PFC and not be criticised, then anybody should be able to post negatively about any subject and not be criticised.

Confucious wrote:
Regarding tonight, do we care that Millwall don't care if everybody hates them and if so do they care that we don't care they don't care - or indeed do we care that they don't care that we don't care they don't care?

who cares !!!

Call me old fashioned but I would rather win the F.A. Cup than the champions league.

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: "Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir. George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds. It's you who doesn't get it.

That! Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976. So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

The first season they came up to the Prem and we lost 1-0 at Farton Park I, like many other Saints, had to endure the flying bottles, bricks and anything else they could chuck on the way to the train station. At that time if I could have pushed the NUKE button I most certainly would have obliterated them.

More recently I have been discussing issues with a number of them on their site and chucking in my 5 penneth regarding the legals to do with Admin and CVA's having dealt with these situations myself. Indeed, as one of my logins - SisterHumpingSkate - it was I who first suggested a coach load of red and white to turn up and show support!

I think alot depends on whether they have the humility to hold their hands up.

seems a bit sad to me that most posts here are about that crap 17 miles down the road.i don't give a shiiiiit

mack chinnon wrote:
Call me old fashioned but I would rather win the F.A. Cup than the champions league.

Yeah, with a 92 minute corner that goes straight in!

My work is tax avoidance, haven't Arry and Milan heard of DOTAS! I might have been able to save poopey a bit on PAYE. Business is business!!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

mack chinnon wrote: Call me old fashioned but I would rather win the F.A. Cup than the champions league.

Yeah, with a 92 minute corner that goes straight in!

Wouldnt that be sweet.

mack chinnon wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

mack chinnon wrote: Call me old fashioned but I would rather win the F.A. Cup than the champions league.

Yeah, with a 92 minute corner that goes straight in!

Wouldnt that be sweet.

From a corner? It would be a bloomin' miracle!

I want portsmuff to become extinct,
Absolutely despise the place and it's truly dreadful people( sweeping generalisation I know)
But I work on building sites with the inhabitants of this vile place, they spit vitriol and bile about anything to do with us. From first thing in the morning until evening all you hear is oi scummer. When you give them a tug and front them, they dont want to know mouthy cowards who hate us. I wish they could test nuclear weapons on the cesspit!
At the very least move the dump to Sussex!!!! As you can probably tell I'm not very fond of them!!!!

I want portsmuff to become extinct,
Absolutely despise the place and it's truly dreadful people( sweeping generalisation I know)
But I work on building sites with the inhabitants of this vile place, they spit vitriol and bile about anything to do with us. From first thing in the morning until evening all you hear is oi scummer. When you give them a tug and front them, they dont want to know mouthy cowards who hate us. I wish they could test nuclear weapons on the cesspit!
At the very least move the dump to Sussex!!!! As you can probably tell I'm not very fond of them!!!!

Someone just text me to say only three stands open tonight, which one isn't?

Lalalalalalalalanna wrote:
Is the West Ham game sold out? Buzzing for it, taking the Mrs for Valentines Day...

http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/page/NewsDetai
l/0,,10280~2602799,0
0.html answers your question, yes totally sold out.

On my way shortly, I just hope there is a decent last minute walk up, surely the punters want to see Tadanari start a game?

Chipster wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:
I am not a Pompey fan by any stretch of the imagination. But why is it so important to revel in their failure?

People come on here and complain about negative posts. But what is more negative than wishing them to go down the tubes. Or any other club for that matter.

The anti Pompey posts are anti football posts. Negative posts.

It seems to me some people put the extinction of PFC on a par with promotion. Or indeed a substitute for promotion. We didn't make it to the Premier League but the skates got wiped out. Just as good as promotion. Brilliant.

George, it's like this.

If PFC folds, there will still be Skates to banter with and, as Retford says above and I have said elsewhere, they'll rise from the ashes and, in time, bounce back.

My personal negativity (as you put it) and desire to see them sink has little to do with it being them and EVERYTHING to do with the running of the club going back as far as when Milan first saved them with money earned in the arms trade.

Now, I could forgive skates for not objecting to that. If a rather shady buyer had come along 2 years ago when we were running out of time, I'd probably have accepted.

Since then, however, shady owner after shady owner has stepped in; unchallenged by anyone from the FA to the Bell End Boy and they've over-spent their way to 3 trips to Wembley.

Once more, I could live with most of this.

I could even live with the vile abuse many gave when things looked bleak for us because others showed a more generos spirit.

BUT, the final nail for me was the 1-4 FA Cup match. They couldn't afford to pay the tea lady but they were permitted (and chose) to retain and pay their loanees who were pivotal in that result and subsequent results on the way to the final.

Isn't that enough for you to realise that their liquidation would actually be GOOD for football and might help change the culture which makes life so tough for clubs like, say, Bournemouth and so easy for clubs like, say, Chelsea?

Let them rot! They’ll be back one day.

Quality post, couldn't put it better myself! By the way George, are you by any chance a Social Worker? :o)

Sorry Chipster I am not a social worker. If I were, I would be advocating the closing down of all football clubs.

In my experience social workers blame about 50% of domestic violence on football. My response to that was what would domestic violence be like if there wasn't any football/rugby/crick
et etc.

My view is team games are a substitute for war and get rid of aggression that would otherwise raise it's ugly head somewhere else. In the home for instance.

So no I'm not a social worker.

Lets discuss the topic instead of Pøøpy.
Chaplow, Barnard and the other fringe players to start tonight.COYS

George really does miss the point.
This site is for Saints fans, and yet Poopey come on here and talk complete + total bo11ocks.
I personnaly do not want them to disappear, but I do want them punished for flouting rules. A point deduction is levied to all other clubs who have been in this situation, so why the delay ?
The fans(?) of Poopey claim to be the best ever anywhere, so why has the club no money, if they support the club as they say then surely they would rally and go to the ground and put their money in to the club.
It is very obvious they are not, so the club will disappear and then there will be great gnashing of teeth and blame scattered everywhere, except where it really lies.
Name one other club that has had so many dodgy owners !

george chivers wrote:

arrythecrook wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: "Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir. George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds. It's you who doesn't get it.

That! Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976. So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

I can't speak for Seedhouse, but, had that been the case, I would have been happy to see the same fate for them as for us ..... a points deduction and relegation.

George I can understand you are being the voice of reason here but where Pompey are concerned there is no reasoning.They are a badly run club with the most obnoxious nasty supporters I have come across (and I remember West Ham and Chelsea in the 70's)Common sense says you make sure your revenue bill is paid on time and if they end up going to the wall so be it.Could be the man who was responsible for much of the overspending will be found guilty in the courts today.

You miss my point 'Arry. The point is if people don't want negative posts on this site. Or perceived negative posts then that has to apply to all posts. PFC can't be the exception despite the very good reasons give by a number of people including yourself. If people can post negatively about PFC and not be criticised, then anybody should be able to post negatively about any subject and not be criticised.

You miss the point - it is not negative to want Poopee to be treated the same as other clubs in the past (including ourselves). It is a desire for equality & natural justice.

That sounds very positive to me.

Plus, it is Poopee remember, so anything against the cheating, tax-dodging bar stewards has got to be positive.

You are trying to make a cheap point & failing.

rocketone wrote:
George really does miss the point.
This site is for Saints fans, and yet Poopey come on here and talk complete + total bo11ocks.
I personnaly do not want them to disappear, but I do want them punished for flouting rules. A point deduction is levied to all other clubs who have been in this situation, so why the delay ?
The fans(?) of Poopey claim to be the best ever anywhere, so why has the club no money, if they support the club as they say then surely they would rally and go to the ground and put their money in to the club.
It is very obvious they are not, so the club will disappear and then there will be great gnashing of teeth and blame scattered everywhere, except where it really lies.
Name one other club that has had so many dodgy owners !

I can understand your frustration but my point is people on here moan about negative posts and then make negative posts themselves about PFC. It seems like double standards to me.

And I agree they are very annoying when they come on here and post nonsense.

The reason they haven't had any points deducted yet is because the businessmen who set them up were cleverer than Rupert Lowe and knew what to do within the rules of the FA to avoid points being deducted.

I would certainly be happy for them to have points deducted.

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george chivers wrote:

arrythecrook wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

george chivers wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: "Great Administrations" wins it for me, top darts sir. George you totally miss the point it's not anti football it's actually pro football or at least the true spirit of sport. When I was 14 Saints won the FA cup from the old second division beating Manchester United in the final. Fairy tale stuff. More recently the skates won it by throwing money at it, money that they didn't have. Also their owners money was made selling guns to African dictators to murder their own people with. The fans revelled in it and gave us stick. I never heard them criticise the owners on moral grounds. It's you who doesn't get it.

That! Remind me to brag over a beer someday about how I got my '76 ticket.

Seedhouse when I was 15 I went to Villa Park and saw Saints lose in the FA cup Semi Final to Man U. A shattered dream of going to Wembley for me. But of course compensated by the victory in 1976. So if the skates hadn't thrown money at it that they didn't have and their owners hadn't made their money via arms dealing and they were still going down the tubes you wouldn't be looking forward to their demise then?

I can't speak for Seedhouse, but, had that been the case, I would have been happy to see the same fate for them as for us ..... a points deduction and relegation.

George I can understand you are being the voice of reason here but where Pompey are concerned there is no reasoning.They are a badly run club with the most obnoxious nasty supporters I have come across (and I remember West Ham and Chelsea in the 70's)Common sense says you make sure your revenue bill is paid on time and if they end up going to the wall so be it.Could be the man who was responsible for much of the overspending will be found guilty in the courts today.

You miss my point 'Arry. The point is if people don't want negative posts on this site. Or perceived negative posts then that has to apply to all posts. PFC can't be the exception despite the very good reasons give by a number of people including yourself. If people can post negatively about PFC and not be criticised, then anybody should be able to post negatively about any subject and not be criticised.

You miss the point - it is not negative to want Poopee to be treated the same as other clubs in the past (including ourselves). It is a desire for equality & natural justice.

That sounds very positive to me.

Plus, it is Poopee remember, so anything against the cheating, tax-dodging bar stewards has got to be positive.

You are trying to make a cheap point & failing.

See my comment below to Rocketone. We had points deducted because Rupert Lowe wasn't sharp enough.

George I admire your stance, we are all football fans and although there is a very large percentage of P**pey fans that are vile the rest are footy fans like us who follow their local team. Better that than a plastic Manc.

However you miss the point. Football needs P**pey to suffer - if they don't it says to every club all you need to do is bring on board an international crook, spend money you don't have, rip off everyone and get 3 or 4 years of glory. The penalty so far is to be back where they were before the whole shady episode began, mid table championship. If there is no penalty then all clubs might as well have a few glory years at no cost. No they deserve to fold for the sake of the game, and that it will make the morons who throw bricks and spoil a minutes silence gutted is just a happy coincidence.