Saints 'make £6m-plus offer' for Rodriguez (From Daily Echo)

WobblyCat wrote:
Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!!

bigfella777 wrote:
Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.

derbydog wrote:
Eddie Howe is thought to like Lee Barnard so it could be £6M plus Barnard (and another player?). Lambert/Rodriguez as big man and substutute big man; Sharp/Lee as second striker and replacement second striker. Hooper has got his Champions League football and a pay rise so he ain't coming...

WobblyCat wrote:
Looks like an exciting move, where does this leave Billy? Who else would we prefer as an alternative to Rodriguez? Here comes the fun!!!

Tubbystubb wrote:
Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press.
We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed.
Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation!
Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.

Tubbystubb wrote:
Just had a thought, this won't happen as it's now in the press.
We all know NC's liking for keeping the wheelings and dealings quite until completed.
Can't help getting excited but until it's on the offical site that JR has signed then as an earlier poster said ..it's just speculation!
Still speculation like this keeps fans coming back to the Echo website, which in turn brings them in an income through the advertisments here.

saintssaintssaints wrote:
We need two strikers: Jay and Hooper. At least 2 pacey wingers: 1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly. 1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner. 1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates. 1 goalie - young talented englishman Thats 7 players. Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well. 1st team something like: Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER. Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players. Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.

D4n1el wrote:
interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/18

182424

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?

20-25Million.

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?

20-25Million.

That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.

jonny-shuttle wrote:
how about berbatov?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?

20-25Million.

That's lower than it was last time we were in the Prem.

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.

Alicesdad wrote:
Good idea, but can you really see him wanting to come south to a club that has only just come up?

In any event there would be the clubs with stupid budgets who would simply outbid us.

I doubt we will get any of the so called "big" names down here until we have been up for more than a season. We are only likely to be fishing in the "sensible" ponds at home and maybe we will pick up some true quality from abroad . Good luck to Nigel though, the whole thing must be like buying from a "nearly new" stall at a school jumble sale.

Best of luck Nigel !!

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Egomaniac wrote: I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

Ted Rogers wrote:

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.

If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As a matter of interest, what do you think our total annual players wages bill should be?

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

DBTM wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase?
Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

DBTM wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

Is that Joey Barton? The same Joey Barton who's just been handed a 12 matches ban, making him miss a 3rd of the season? That nutcase?
Please tell me you've nothing to do with recruiting players at the club.

I think he means Dick Barton, Special Agent!

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

tugboat wrote:

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.

aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.

MGRA wrote:

aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.

its not good having a player like him without the players around him he needs... he scored his goals with us virtually by himself !! no that was a wise sell imo... ironic though that we have a problem on the right now tho and late in the season we played chappers there with disasterous consequences...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Over the Edge wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.

I think Huddersfield will want more than £2mill...but I'd still be happy to have him in the squad.

tugboat wrote:

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.

slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !

Over the Edge wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

D4n1el wrote:
interesting...

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/sport/0/football/18

182424

Baddesley Bill wrote:

tugboat wrote:

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.

Abso-bloody-lutely Tugboat!

RedArmy1 wrote:

slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !

Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP.

Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot.

Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough.

Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball.

When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had.

If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success.

WE MEAN BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH.

p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc.....

Sink the Skunts ...

THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE

skin2000 wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:

slugger wrote:
if nigel wants jay rod then that's good enough for me ....... i still believe we'll sign hooper from celtic , them sweatys are panicing !

Both would be a good buy for SAINTS - hooper and jay rod - let's get them in ASAP.

Don't worry about Kelvin - a good quality keeper and there is a lot of choice out there - should improve our Team and they can fight for the number 1 Slot.

Don't forget about strengthening our Defence - no disrespect to Danny Butterfield (and I know he is one of Nigel's favourites) but against some-one like Nani - no chance - he is just not good enough.

Getting another CB is important. Nigel might gamble or argue that Jose will do a job for Saints. If it was based on the Coventry Game - I would agree - but over the Season he has struggled and on more than one occasion grappled the man instead of going for the ball.

When I saw Chappers score against manure in the FA Cup - I was impressed... but of late I have been disappointed with his Strike Rate considering the number of chances he has had.

If Rickie had laid off those chances to Steeeeeeeeeve in a more central role then i think Saints would have had more success.

WE MEAN BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE MIGHTY SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH.

p.s Do the humane thing - Start the Liquidizer + Mash up the Blue Few. Wessex League and sharing with Havant is the right thing to do. No-one wants pompey in League One with all their debts and money laundering and not owning their ground car park players etc.....

Sink the Skunts ...

THE FUTURE IS RED + WHITE

i would put a bid in for Dave Blake.He would link well with Fonte.We should be able to pick him up on a free.

COYR

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia

petethephantom wrote:
g'day everyone from oz
just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal......

ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league....
looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,...
coyr from sydney australia

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!

tugboat wrote:

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote: Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe. Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least. Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem. Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.

skin2000 wrote:
Saints linked with Frank Saul and Fred Kemp

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!

tugboat wrote:

ShakeyWiffles wrote:

arthur dalyrimple wrote:
Defoe is the best shout with Ricky Lambert , Barton at number 6 and someone fast on the right , Robert Green for Goalie , sorted.

If we get Barton I'm supporting Pompey or someone else utterly rubbish that fleeces charities. Then again, I don't think Cortese would like somebody with those "ethics" on the team so thank god I'm safe.

Why are people lowering our sights? I don't expect us to get any big names really but everyone's banging on about L1 and/or championship players with no prem experience (unless you count watching it on the tv experience) we need more established prem players, just a few to guide the rest of the squad in the right direction but I'm guessing NA and NC know this. Just open your minds and look at a few lesser known names that have done well in the prem and there may lie our solution.

I read your post with interest,I personally am getting pretty miffed with people dripping on about "lets sign someone with prem experience" Why ? Lets gets this sorted out,the bottom half of the prem is barely up to the standard of the top half of the championship,in fact if you analyse the quality of football on offer,the top of the championship is the equivalent of midtable prem at least.
Now then,take teams like everton for example who struggle financially,but have some degree of stability which has maintained their premiership existence,the saints team that came up would play them off any park you care to mention. Sooo when any player is mentioned that has performed well in the championship its my humble opinion that they will do the bizz in the prem.
Why on earth would we want some worn out journeyman who has flattered to deceive in the next div up ? inflated wages,living on past glories and wants to be put out to grass,please NA get hungry players who still have some ambition left. Owen ,NOOOO,heskey NOOOOO etc etc ,Jay rod ,yes please. Oh and for gods sake get a keeper in asap who can give the great KD some sleepless nights.

St Retford wrote:
He knows a lot about horses though.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.

He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.

He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.

I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.

mack chinnon wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.

He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.

I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.

I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

St Retford wrote: He knows a lot about horses though.

Is that why he can't retire yet?

He's just flogged an absolute donkey to Wayne Rooney. He'd turn our entire squad to gambling on really rubbish horses and they'd all end up destitute. It would be awful.

He always came over as such a clean cut lad. I know we are building for the future and concentrating on youth but it would be great to have a 'big name' player provided he could still offer alot. We proved it can be done with Keegan, Ball, Osgood, George, Watson, Mills, Case etc.

I agree, but I don't think Owen is the man. He'd cost a fortune and only be fit to play about two games.

I,d rather share a bath with Ian Huntley than sign Taffy.

Hahaha! I agree Owen is probably not the man, be too much like DC - great when fully fit but too rarely available to make it worth it. Who are today's players that fit into that mould? Probably the likes of Giggs and Scholes but they seem to be playing to the very end at Manure.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

petethephantom wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia

Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?

petethephantom wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

petethephantom wrote: g'day everyone from oz just got home today from my trip o/s to see saints beat coventry then i went to spain and portugal...... ok i came from oz to see saints win promotion in which they did.... and what did you expect to pay the same prices for tickets, i think not..... to me you pay for what you get.... not that i go to the opera but you wouldnt sit in the back row you would want to be front and centre.... the same here in the premier league.... looking forward to the fixture draw so i will work out what game or games i will come over for this season.... probably the easter break,... coyr from sydney australia

Glad you got home okay, Pete, and had the chance to be at such a fantastic occasion. Some of us where quite worried about you ..... or maybe we were worried that there was a phantom loose in Southampton and no one knew where he was! Did you get to meet up with any of the people on here?

hhaahahaha
umm went to the silver service section of the game, and met some really nice ppl on the table i was on...... after the game we went ( myself and a couple of ppl on the table i was on) to some italian club/nightclub where we crashed someones 25th birthday and then someones hens night.... then we went into the centre of town and drank and sung and drank some more and sang some more( we are southampton in the premier league) oh and did i say drank some more.... well i got back to the novatell around 3am full as a bull and well thouroughly and completely satisfied

hence i will be back again next season sometime. need fixture to work out where and when cause is even for 1 game is a $2500 round trip so gotta make it worth while ( thats 1600 pound)

coy r

ps i met kelvin davis b4 the game and had a photo with him, what a champion bloke.

St Retford wrote:
"reportedly"

bigfella777 wrote:
Someone like Hulk would be more interesting if we are going to compete.

RedArmy1 wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.

Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ...

COYR

El Santo wrote:

St Retford wrote: "reportedly"

Which translated means "ain't gonna happen". NC does not work like that if past moves are any guide.

Alicesdad wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!

You must believe it. It is a bad idea. Nothing more to say.

SFCOLDBOY wrote:

StevieSteve wrote:
I can't believe some of you think Owen is past it and lacks pace!! You've got to be joking! We would do very well to have a top class player like him with his kind of experience. If Sir Alex Ferguson rates him how can Saints fans not?!

Owen is an injury waiting to happen.
He has had a serious knee and numerous muscle problems, even while at ManUnited.His pace has been affected by this.
Ferguson just used him as a back up goal poacher. I accept he was a great scorrer when he was young and no doubt he will still get a few goals for a championship side.
We can't afford to carry anyone now.
COYR.

aldermoorboy wrote:
I did say at the time we should have kept the OX.

dopplershift wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

Wayne Bridge? Sorry but he was and always will be overrated. A nice player but there's something very Tyro league about the way he kicks the ball (which is always backwards BTW) and in my opinion not better than Fox. I think his name proceeded him and then he's been found out at every club.
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Owen wouldn't be in it for the long haul and I'd guarantee NC wouldn't pay more than a quid for a player as injury prone as him as it's not an investment. If he brought his wages down to less than £20k per week and was on a free it would be worth a second glance but we all know he is only in it for the money.

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
Paper talk its been a bit quite lately!

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
Rodiguez at 6 million in his last year of his contract is to much. Howe wanted Seabourne last season. What we part exchange Seabourne and Barnard with a cash adjustment would be a better deal. Also Saints never disclose what they pay for players so I would take 6 million with a pinch of salt. Transfer window opens tomorrow. Prehaps we will see some movement.
No way will Celtic let Hooper go.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

saintssaintssaints wrote:
We need two strikers:
Jay and Hooper.
At least 2 pacey wingers:
1 to push Lallana on the left - Ince or Phillips. Then 1 first teamer on the right - Jarvis/Snodgrass. Back up would be Guly.
1 CM - prem quality. I would expect this position to be a foreigner.
1 CB - prem quality. Curtis Davis/Mathew Bates.
1 goalie - young talented englishman
Thats 7 players.

Get rid of Barnard, Seabourne, Forte, Dickson, Puncheon either sell or on loan. De ridder or Hammond could stay and not really play or go as well.

1st team something like:
Davis, Richardson, Fox, Holiveld, Fonte, NEW RIGHT winger, Lallana, Spiderman, NEW CM, Lambert, NEW STRIKER.
Bench/ squad rotation - Sharp, Lee, NEW STRIKER, NEW LEFT WINGER, Cork, Guly, Chaplow, Martin, NEW CB, Butterfield, Harding, NEW GK. 23 players.
Plus 4-5 of the youth team. Reeves, Shaw, Stephens etc

Thats a quality squad of 23 (+youth) mixed with promotion players, new quality players and the up and coming youth players. Spend would be about 20-25m.

Mush On The Beach wrote:

RedArmy1 wrote:

Over the Edge wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but have NA and NC gone insane?? Rodriguez is a journeyman striker at best, just 15 goals last season in the Championship against some weak defences, whereas we will be playing against PREMIER LEAGUE defences next year. He is valued at only £1.5M by the authoritative transfermarkt website, so why would we bid more than 4 times that?? Still, at least we know what our increased season ticket prices are being used for.

Exactly, ridiculous price tag, Jordan Rhodes would be my choice, yes it he scored his league one, but hang on, so did Rickie a couple of seasons ago, everyone says he will do it in the Premier League, worth a £2million punt.

Jordan Rhodes is definitely worth a closer examination ...

COYR

Bigfella777 would love to nominate himself onto the inspection comittee

LoyalSaint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.

and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!!

StevieSteve wrote:

LoyalSaint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Egomaniac wrote:
I would suggest Saints take a leaf out of Lawrie's book - mix old hands with the youngsters.. Saints should be looking at Michael Owen (available on a free) - tremendous experience and knowledge at top level, and try and get Wayne Bridge back. Thoughts anyone?

I'm not opposed to a good mix but we lack pace and so does Owen these days.

and Bridgey not the answer either, disappointed me since leaving, done nothing but pick up cheques, happy to take the Chelski bucks and sit on the bench......nope not worthy!!!

He was actually keeping Cole on the bench most of the time! That's why he was always in England squads?! Not sure he could still do a job for us now but he used to be 1 of the best left backs in England.

ghk230473 wrote:
Rumour has it that the don is ambitious and looking towards champions league football. Adkins will be under pressure and with this in mind I don't think Rodriguez is a starter. If the rumour is true expect as you get more for your money. The don is a fan and friend of Di matteo! Watch this space......

Ted Rogers wrote:

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Rodriguez has pace and so does Tandanari Lee...but also young enough to develop further into the Southampton Way. This would give us more fire power with Ricky, Sharp, Barnard and Guly. I'm sure NA will look for more pace on the flanks as that is where we need to strengthen.

If Barnard plays a minute of Premier league football for Saints I'll eat my season ticket.