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Saints legend: Lack of new faces a worry (From Daily Echo)
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Franny Benali concerned about lack of new signings by Southampton ahead of Premier League season
9:00am Monday 13th August 2012 in Sport
By Simon Walter, Senior Sports Reporter
Saints legend: Lack of new faces a worry
FRANNY Benali admits he is concerned at the lack of summer signings ahead of Saints’ first game back in the Premier League .
Saints have added four players to their squad since the end of last season; Jay Rodriguez , Steve Davis, Nathaniel Clyne and young goalkeeper Paulo Gazzaniga.
Dell legend Benali believes more are needed.
“It was a fantastic achievement to get back in the Premier League, it’s very pleasing to be back after seven years, but I would question whether there are enough new faces at this stage,” he said.
“They’ll need more to see them through the campaign and give them a real fighting chance of staying up.
“You need a strong depth of real quality in a Premier League squad.
“Ultimately the person that makes that decision is Nigel Adkins and I’m sure he’ll be making those additions because a number of players who have figured a lot in the last couple of years won’t be as involved as much this season.
“That is a shame from the players’ perspective but it is what happens when you go up.”
Saints have won three of their last four league games at Manchester City, but a draw would be an outstanding start for Nigel Adkins’ side.
“City away is a real baptism of fire,” says Benali, pictured right. “They’re a real force these days and playing away to the champions will be a very stern test.
“When I played at Man City at Maine Road it was usually a relegation battle and in 1996 we managed to stay up at their expense, despite losing at Maine Road.
“Manchester City have always had a very passionate set of fans so I’m sure it will be a wonderful atmosphere.
“Going there will be like a trip to Old Trafford used to be for us but I’m sure they’ll go there in a very positive frame of mind.
“But talk of qualifying for Europe in the club’s first season back is somewhat unrealistic.
“Finishing fourth from bottom has to be the starting point for them, and then they can go from there.”
Comments(86)
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:23am Mon 13 Aug 12
dennytg
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9:24am Mon 13 Aug 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:25am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:We must stop thinking that when an ex player who is Southampton through and through expresses his honest opinion that it's in some way controversial !
Controversial...
bigfella777
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9:26am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:But true,once players get injured where is the depth? You need to be able to replace your key players with quality not make do.
Controversial...
Can you actually imagine Saints defence with Balotelli,Silva and Tevez running at them,Jesus Christ!
mattserg
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9:32am Mon 13 Aug 12
Seriously worried next week.
St Retford
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9:37am Mon 13 Aug 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I was kind of being sarcastic. I love Franny - and even named my son after him - but this is sort of stating the acutely obvious. I don't think there's anyone at the club who would disagree with him. It's not like they're not trying to sign people!
St Retford wrote:We must stop thinking that when an ex player who is Southampton through and through expresses his honest opinion that it's in some way controversial !
Controversial...
laffaminute
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9:38am Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777
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9:40am Mon 13 Aug 12
n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
ToastyTea
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9:43am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:haha love you named your son after him :) (that's laughing in a nice way). Defo one my all time favs.
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I was kind of being sarcastic. I love Franny - and even named my son after him - but this is sort of stating the acutely obvious. I don't think there's anyone at the club who would disagree with him. It's not like they're not trying to sign people!St Retford wrote: Controversial...We must stop thinking that when an ex player who is Southampton through and through expresses his honest opinion that it's in some way controversial !
Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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9:43am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford
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9:44am Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777 wrote:Either too old or not good enough.
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya
n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
Andy Welsh
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9:45am Mon 13 Aug 12
costa gaz
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9:45am Mon 13 Aug 12
Out of the 4 signed I'm not sure any of them will be an automatic choice.
A GK and a CB should have been signed before now.
jerseysaint
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9:46am Mon 13 Aug 12
malcher
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9:46am Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777 wrote:Probably because none of them would be an improvement on what is already at the club. Have you not learnt to trust NA and NC yet?
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
SFCOLDBOY
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9:47am Mon 13 Aug 12
It would be a shame if it was missed.
Alicesdad says...
9:07am Mon 13 Aug 12
LOOK YOU LOT STAND UP STRAIGHT AND SMILE !!!!
This country has just told the world what a great thing it is to be British.
Last season Saints showed us what a great thing it is to be a Saints fan.
It's all good !!
Now .. altogether . .deep breathe
WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE.
SMILE !!
Therefore no doomsayers needed.
Let NC and NA get on with it.
We are in the Prem prematurely to expectations, so it's a massive learning curve.
Mistakes will happen, we may have to fight relegation.Who knows?
Be positive.
If we go down we can get up again better for the experience.
We will be able to chant,
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON, WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE, again.
Once more back onto the rollercoaster, love it.
COYR
only1chopper
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9:50am Mon 13 Aug 12
Confucious
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9:50am Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute
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9:59am Mon 13 Aug 12
SFCOLDBOY wrote:Priceless comedy !
Francis Benali has made some good obserbvations but I make no excuse for borrowing Alicesdads' post from the last thread because he has it completely right. It would be a shame if it was missed. Alicesdad says... 9:07am Mon 13 Aug 12 LOOK YOU LOT STAND UP STRAIGHT AND SMILE !!!! This country has just told the world what a great thing it is to be British. Last season Saints showed us what a great thing it is to be a Saints fan. It's all good !! Now .. altogether . .deep breathe WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE. SMILE !! Therefore no doomsayers needed. Let NC and NA get on with it. We are in the Prem prematurely to expectations, so it's a massive learning curve. Mistakes will happen, we may have to fight relegation.Who knows? Be positive. If we go down we can get up again better for the experience. We will be able to chant, WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON, WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE, again. Once more back onto the rollercoaster, love it. COYR
SFCSaint
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10:02am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford
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10:08am Mon 13 Aug 12
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
ToastyTea
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10:12am Mon 13 Aug 12
SaintRachel
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10:13am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:Nah.
We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them?
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
St Retford
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10:18am Mon 13 Aug 12
SaintRachel wrote:Me either. But the thought of it kind of makes Nigel and a quiet summer in the transfer market seem ok though.
St Retford wrote:Nah.
We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them?
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
Saint.
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10:18am Mon 13 Aug 12
As much as it would be nice to see signings by now, look around and nearly every other club is in the very same boat due to Euros and Olympics! Only two days ago Mancini was moaning about the lack of signings, the richest club!
This week will see signings as something will give that will trigger off the market into action. It's not unique to Saints, just a little closer to home. Don't question what NC can do or not, as not one can not say he has not delivered on every front in so many ways already. It makes me laugh when some question if his way of dealing is the problem. Just look at the players brought who talk with real passion of where the club are going! Regards possible signings, Saints have not confirmed or denied them, which either says they could still materialise, who just may be NC is not letting the club be held to ransom, ie Butner third party. The club are clearly getting the right sort of team player in, who wants to play for the shirt.
So stop stirring it DE as you are clearly frustrated with the lack of real knowledge of what actually the club are doing!
Lastly Franny and others are looking at fourth from bottom as an success for Saints, which is negative. When NC and NA are loudly saying we are looking at Europe places or more, which is positive. NA has also clearly said signings will be coming for sure, and he is excited.
Please all remember we are well run club with a plan, and will not pay over the odds and go down silly street. We are positive and moving forward. The owners promise us prem in five and did it in three. They hardly not going to be aware of what the club is entering into and what is need to not stay in the prem, but succeed in the prem! Enjoy the ride Saints fans!
batesieboy
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10:20am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford
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10:28am Mon 13 Aug 12
batesieboy wrote:Two? Do you not think Jos deserves a starting place? He's been amazing since he joined.
Realistic. Two centre-backs of definite Premiership standard required. Not cheap, but cannot afford not to have. (And a change of tactics regarding the use of Rodriguez.)
bigfella777
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10:29am Mon 13 Aug 12
mack chinnon
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10:30am Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:Come on Bournemouth. And Plymouth.
Apparantly city looked a little shaky at the back yesterday so your strike force should run riot.
Confucious
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10:33am Mon 13 Aug 12
For those of a particularly gloomy disposition there's a hypnotist in Portsmouth, Vladimir de Higgins, who's been doing a roaring trade with football fans throughout the year.
He has adapted his popular therapy for the fear of losing an erection to deal with the now locally even more prevelant phobia - fear of losing football matches.
He charges £5 an hour and after two hours supporters find themselves singing "Sh!t on the b*stards above ie that's nearly everybody" with happy gusto. He can even make ugly female fans with fat @rses think they are Jenifer Aniston.
CHARLIE TAYLOR
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10:52am Mon 13 Aug 12
SFCOLDBOY wrote:well said !! I also have a daughter called Alice !!
Francis Benali has made some good obserbvations but I make no excuse for borrowing Alicesdads' post from the last thread because he has it completely right.
It would be a shame if it was missed.
Alicesdad says...
9:07am Mon 13 Aug 12
LOOK YOU LOT STAND UP STRAIGHT AND SMILE !!!!
This country has just told the world what a great thing it is to be British.
Last season Saints showed us what a great thing it is to be a Saints fan.
It's all good !!
Now .. altogether . .deep breathe
WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE.
THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE.
SMILE !!
Therefore no doomsayers needed.
Let NC and NA get on with it.
We are in the Prem prematurely to expectations, so it's a massive learning curve.
Mistakes will happen, we may have to fight relegation.Who knows?
Be positive.
If we go down we can get up again better for the experience.
We will be able to chant,
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON, WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE, again.
Once more back onto the rollercoaster, love it.
COYR
Andover Saint
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11:04am Mon 13 Aug 12
Hobson82
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11:04am Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777 wrote:You left our Aguero, Nasri, Johnson and Yaya Toure.
St Retford wrote: Controversial...But true,once players get injured where is the depth? You need to be able to replace your key players with quality not make do. Can you actually imagine Saints defence with Balotelli,Silva and Tevez running at them,Jesus Christ!
Can't help but feel a little worried. I thought City looked pretty good yesterday. Having said that the keeper and Salic both looked a bit dodge. Fingers crossed Joe Hart's back doesn't get any better.
Andover Saint
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11:06am Mon 13 Aug 12
batesieboy winjurys and suspensions happen over 38 games...we deffo need cb's!!
Andover Saint
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11:06am Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:
batesieboy winjurys and suspensions happen over 38 games...we deffo need cb's!!injurys***
Block41row0sfc
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11:07am Mon 13 Aug 12
Block41row0sfc
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11:10am Mon 13 Aug 12
malcher wrote:Been a while since the bigfella has seen pigs bladder kicked about. Morrison smith hahahaha
bigfella777 wrote:Probably because none of them would be an improvement on what is already at the club. Have you not learnt to trust NA and NC yet?
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
WECOMING4U
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11:13am Mon 13 Aug 12
Flashin the pan
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11:24am Mon 13 Aug 12
Never out of the bottom three...unless Billy Blunt is sharp enough to score a heap of goals for you which i very much doubtful.
You have mostly champinship players or of lower standard and expecting them to do well in the premeirship is wishing too much..
zummerzet saint
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11:27am Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777
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11:30am Mon 13 Aug 12
Block41row0sfc wrote:Smiths a good tough,defensive midfielder,would be a good squad player IMO.
malcher wrote:Been a while since the bigfella has seen pigs bladder kicked about. Morrison smith hahahaha
bigfella777 wrote:Probably because none of them would be an improvement on what is already at the club. Have you not learnt to trust NA and NC yet?
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
St Retford
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11:33am Mon 13 Aug 12
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up saints
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11:51am Mon 13 Aug 12
petethephantom
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11:57am Mon 13 Aug 12
we will draw at man city same with man u beat wigan ... thats a ok start .... and go ok at home win a few away and come home like a train........ at least we arnt pompy
coyr
miltonarcher
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11:57am Mon 13 Aug 12
Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.
likewatchingbrazil
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12:05pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:the comedy is poopey now get back on your sister as shes the only entertainment you will have this year fish boy.
SFCOLDBOY wrote: Francis Benali has made some good obserbvations but I make no excuse for borrowing Alicesdads' post from the last thread because he has it completely right. It would be a shame if it was missed. Alicesdad says... 9:07am Mon 13 Aug 12 LOOK YOU LOT STAND UP STRAIGHT AND SMILE !!!! This country has just told the world what a great thing it is to be British. Last season Saints showed us what a great thing it is to be a Saints fan. It's all good !! Now .. altogether . .deep breathe WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE. THERE IS NO DOWNSIDE. SMILE !! Therefore no doomsayers needed. Let NC and NA get on with it. We are in the Prem prematurely to expectations, so it's a massive learning curve. Mistakes will happen, we may have to fight relegation.Who knows? Be positive. If we go down we can get up again better for the experience. We will be able to chant, WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON, WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE, again. Once more back onto the rollercoaster, love it. COYRPriceless comedy !
coyr wtfiln
St Retford
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12:06pm Mon 13 Aug 12
miltonarcher wrote:I don't get it when they try and make light of our attendance figures. It's like Ironside having a pop at Usain Bolt for being cr@p at running. It doesn't make sense on any level.
You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league.
Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.
aldermoorboy
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12:09pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Block41row0sfc
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12:10pm Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777 wrote:He is just about getting a game for MK dons 5/6 years ago brilliant player. He never recovered properly from his injurys.
Block41row0sfc wrote:Smiths a good tough,defensive midfielder,would be a good squad player IMO.
malcher wrote:Been a while since the bigfella has seen pigs bladder kicked about. Morrison smith hahahaha
bigfella777 wrote:Probably because none of them would be an improvement on what is already at the club. Have you not learnt to trust NA and NC yet?
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
mack chinnon
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12:24pm Mon 13 Aug 12
aldermoorboy wrote:We win our opening game of the season now.
Man City 0-1 Saints.
That result will do me.
laffaminute
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12:26pm Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:you dont make sense on any level.
miltonarcher wrote: You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.I don't get it when they try and make light of our attendance figures. It's like Ironside having a pop at Usain Bolt for being cr@p at running. It doesn't make sense on any level.
StevieSteve
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12:28pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:We need at least two centre backs realistically, a new left back, at least 1 winger and another quality centre midfielder. We have to sell some players and replace them with better, Hammond can go - Morgan - Guly - Richardson - Fox they'll all get found out very quickly in the premier league.
We are leaving it late. Certainly need to bring in at least a centre half.
StevieSteve
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12:28pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:We need at least two centre backs realistically, a new left back, at least 1 winger and another quality centre midfielder. We have to sell some players and replace them with better, Hammond can go - Morgan - Guly - Richardson - Fox they'll all get found out very quickly in the premier league.
We are leaving it late. Certainly need to bring in at least a centre half.
St Retford
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12:30pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:Your mum doesn't make sense on any level.
St Retford wrote:you dont make sense on any level.
miltonarcher wrote: You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.I don't get it when they try and make light of our attendance figures. It's like Ironside having a pop at Usain Bolt for being cr@p at running. It doesn't make sense on any level.
laffaminute
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12:40pm Mon 13 Aug 12
miltonarcher wrote:Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.
george chivers
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12:41pm Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:West Ham could be.
We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them?
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
Egomaniac
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12:51pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Francis Benali's comments lend support to my views. He is right to be concerned. So far we have not brought in a single player with any credible Premiership experience. The current squad would do the Championship proud, but at Premiership level they will be slaughtered - starting next week.
I still do not think Nigel has the influence and clout to persuade class players of Premiership quality into St Mary's, end of story. He has done a marvellous job at St Mary's, but I simply cannot be persuaded he's the man for the future. I would love to be wrong, but as a staunch supporter of Saints for over 55 years - I don't think so.
My prediction is that after the first four games we will have one point. By Christmas we will be bottom of the league with no prospect of saving our status, Nigel will be fired, and we will have to start all over again next season in the Championship.
No, I am not a manic depressive killjoy, and I want Saints to be successful - but with the present manager and squad, that ain't going to happen! Of course I hope I'm totally wrong - please God let me be wrong, but ..............!!!
bstokesaint
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12:53pm Mon 13 Aug 12
george chivers wrote:Arguably West Ham are being more frivolous without Harry. In fact I was wondering if anyone knew of any player since the transfer market opened that West Ham haven't been linked with?
St Retford wrote: We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them? I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money. Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?West Ham could be.
I'm all for getting in a new centre back and right winger before the season starts, but I trust NC and NA to bring in the right kind of player and not just fill squad numbers with absolutely anyone available. I suspect they'll end up like QPR did last season. No need to panic for us most deals are done last minute. Keep the faith.
miltonarcher
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12:59pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:I rest my case.
miltonarcher wrote:Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.
Saint.
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1:06pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Egomaniac wrote:You are simply wrong!
A couple of weeks or so ago, I posted that I thought Nigel Adkins was out of his depth at this level, and I got some stick for it!
Francis Benali's comments lend support to my views. He is right to be concerned. So far we have not brought in a single player with any credible Premiership experience. The current squad would do the Championship proud, but at Premiership level they will be slaughtered - starting next week.
I still do not think Nigel has the influence and clout to persuade class players of Premiership quality into St Mary's, end of story. He has done a marvellous job at St Mary's, but I simply cannot be persuaded he's the man for the future. I would love to be wrong, but as a staunch supporter of Saints for over 55 years - I don't think so.
My prediction is that after the first four games we will have one point. By Christmas we will be bottom of the league with no prospect of saving our status, Nigel will be fired, and we will have to start all over again next season in the Championship.
No, I am not a manic depressive killjoy, and I want Saints to be successful - but with the present manager and squad, that ain't going to happen! Of course I hope I'm totally wrong - please God let me be wrong, but ..............!!!
laffaminute
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1:08pm Mon 13 Aug 12
miltonarcher wrote:so do i.
laffaminute wrote:I rest my case.miltonarcher wrote: You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
bstokesaint
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1:12pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Egomaniac wrote:To be fair you rightly deserve some stick. A manager who has brought us the success that Nigel has, especially last season, deserves the backing of all the fans. He knows what he's doing and the last thing we need at St Mary's is turbulence in the managerial position. I'd be gutted if he left us and personally I'd be struggling to think of anyone who could instantly do a better job. Inexperienced managers learn quickly in the EPL, look at Brendan Rogers. He hardly had that much previous experience and is now at Liverpool. I'd rather it was him than Nigel. I also don't think it's a lack of influence that stops Nigel signing players. If you look at Clyne and Rodriguez they are great signings. Inexperienced maybe, but they will be quality. I just don't think he's in the market for paying over the odds for players that don't fit the mould. He’s building a team not bulking up the payroll.
A couple of weeks or so ago, I posted that I thought Nigel Adkins was out of his depth at this level, and I got some stick for it! Francis Benali's comments lend support to my views. He is right to be concerned. So far we have not brought in a single player with any credible Premiership experience. The current squad would do the Championship proud, but at Premiership level they will be slaughtered - starting next week. I still do not think Nigel has the influence and clout to persuade class players of Premiership quality into St Mary's, end of story. He has done a marvellous job at St Mary's, but I simply cannot be persuaded he's the man for the future. I would love to be wrong, but as a staunch supporter of Saints for over 55 years - I don't think so. My prediction is that after the first four games we will have one point. By Christmas we will be bottom of the league with no prospect of saving our status, Nigel will be fired, and we will have to start all over again next season in the Championship. No, I am not a manic depressive killjoy, and I want Saints to be successful - but with the present manager and squad, that ain't going to happen! Of course I hope I'm totally wrong - please God let me be wrong, but ..............!!!
bigfella777
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1:17pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Block41row0sfc wrote:He,s just been given a new 2 year contract actually.
bigfella777 wrote:He is just about getting a game for MK dons 5/6 years ago brilliant player. He never recovered properly from his injurys.
Block41row0sfc wrote:Smiths a good tough,defensive midfielder,would be a good squad player IMO.
malcher wrote:Been a while since the bigfella has seen pigs bladder kicked about. Morrison smith hahahaha
bigfella777 wrote:Probably because none of them would be an improvement on what is already at the club. Have you not learnt to trust NA and NC yet?
junior Hoilett,Andy johnson,Robert Green,Steven Naismith,Alan Smith,Clinton Morrison,Mokoena,Rya n Nelsen,Nicky Shorey have all been available free of charge why are'nt Saints getting any of that?
St Retford
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1:17pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Egomaniac wrote:That's one of the most 'wrong on every point' posts I've ever read on here. And you've got some pretty stiff competition. Well done.
A couple of weeks or so ago, I posted that I thought Nigel Adkins was out of his depth at this level, and I got some stick for it!
Francis Benali's comments lend support to my views. He is right to be concerned. So far we have not brought in a single player with any credible Premiership experience. The current squad would do the Championship proud, but at Premiership level they will be slaughtered - starting next week.
I still do not think Nigel has the influence and clout to persuade class players of Premiership quality into St Mary's, end of story. He has done a marvellous job at St Mary's, but I simply cannot be persuaded he's the man for the future. I would love to be wrong, but as a staunch supporter of Saints for over 55 years - I don't think so.
My prediction is that after the first four games we will have one point. By Christmas we will be bottom of the league with no prospect of saving our status, Nigel will be fired, and we will have to start all over again next season in the Championship.
No, I am not a manic depressive killjoy, and I want Saints to be successful - but with the present manager and squad, that ain't going to happen! Of course I hope I'm totally wrong - please God let me be wrong, but ..............!!!
Costa Baz
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1:29pm Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:What, you have a son called Benali???
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:I was kind of being sarcastic. I love Franny - and even named my son after him - but this is sort of stating the acutely obvious. I don't think there's anyone at the club who would disagree with him. It's not like they're not trying to sign people!
St Retford wrote:We must stop thinking that when an ex player who is Southampton through and through expresses his honest opinion that it's in some way controversial !
Controversial...
You cruel bastid. ;0)))))))
Anyway, Franny has said nothing that most of us haven't already thought.
Transfer windows are like this every year, for us. In fact having signed 4 players already puts us further ahead than usual, for this time.
We will get who we can afford and who wants to buy into the "Southampton Way".
Very few people know who we have actually made bids for, but as everyone does know, as soon as a bid is made the player's agent will be letting other teams know what has been offered, ensuring that the process gets dragged down into the mud, taking forever to come to fruition or fade away.
It's a marathon, not a sprint.
Cheapshot
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1:36pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:So you agree with the above posts...finally you agree with us! well done, it take a big man to admit they are wrong! I take it you will now no longer be on this site begging for attention? I hope so...for your sake...it's getting embarrassing!
miltonarcher wrote:so do i.
laffaminute wrote:I rest my case.miltonarcher wrote: You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
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1:43pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Egomaniac wrote:Every one has the right to an opinion,I personally think your wrong on a few fronts, Ok I always admit my tendancy to be deluded,and to be honest,as soon as the draw against city came out,to portray it as a game we would win would be madness,but it is a game we could get something from-why not ?If you have followed saints for 55 years as you state youll know exactly what I mean.
A couple of weeks or so ago, I posted that I thought Nigel Adkins was out of his depth at this level, and I got some stick for it!
Francis Benali's comments lend support to my views. He is right to be concerned. So far we have not brought in a single player with any credible Premiership experience. The current squad would do the Championship proud, but at Premiership level they will be slaughtered - starting next week.
I still do not think Nigel has the influence and clout to persuade class players of Premiership quality into St Mary's, end of story. He has done a marvellous job at St Mary's, but I simply cannot be persuaded he's the man for the future. I would love to be wrong, but as a staunch supporter of Saints for over 55 years - I don't think so.
My prediction is that after the first four games we will have one point. By Christmas we will be bottom of the league with no prospect of saving our status, Nigel will be fired, and we will have to start all over again next season in the Championship.
No, I am not a manic depressive killjoy, and I want Saints to be successful - but with the present manager and squad, that ain't going to happen! Of course I hope I'm totally wrong - please God let me be wrong, but ..............!!!
If the players approach this season with your thought process-yep were done for.
As for NA not having the flair to attract top players-get a grip-their attracted by big bucks and success. who would mancini attract with no dosh ??The Great manager theory is pointless.
seeing as we have just arrived back,are you really surprised that messi isnt beating our door down ?
Alicedad,s post made a very good point,we are in the Prem earlier than anyone imagined we would be,so if anyone thinks a club can put together a side that can challenge in the prem in one closed season their madder than me.
Yep this season will be a battle royal-cant wait bring it on and please stop underestimating the players we have .
Last point ,if we changed the manager now ,would that make a difference? how can you condemn NA,s ability in the prem without the proof.
Some people have tragically short memories-look back with pride then look forward with optimism.
Please re -read your post ,dig deep and find some enthusiasm for the forthcoming campaign and back the lads.
Wozzie
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1:49pm Mon 13 Aug 12
SaintRachel wrote:Didn't that tax dodger put us on the slippery slope down and didn't his contracts nearly (if it wasn't for Marcus and Nicola) do to us what it did to the filth down the road?
St Retford wrote:Nah.
We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them?
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
Wozzie
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1:54pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Cheapshot wrote:I think the filth from down the road actually are secretly enjoying their poverty and demise and are very pleased to see us back in the Premiership which is there for us to enjoy in our nice modern stadium. Come what may this season I know where I would rather be!! WTFILN
laffaminute wrote:So you agree with the above posts...finally you agree with us! well done, it take a big man to admit they are wrong! I take it you will now no longer be on this site begging for attention? I hope so...for your sake...it's getting embarrassing!
miltonarcher wrote:so do i.
laffaminute wrote:I rest my case.miltonarcher wrote: You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
Kings Lynn Saint
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2:01pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Saintsayer II
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2:01pm Mon 13 Aug 12
We have a good (not top class ) squad of professionals who have received coaching from NA who happens to have the highest level coaching certificate in Europe
We will easily survive the season and stay in the PL
By the time next season starts probably no more than half the current squad will be here In the meantime cheer up and smile We ar in the premier league
miltonarcher
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2:12pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:Can I suggest that when you are in a hole you should stop digging. Your posts are getting more and more desperate. You are like a drowning man, gasping for that last final breath before you sink below the waves. Bit like your club.
You really do feel inferior dont you, what are your amusing names you use on the pompey site to entertain us then, quite a large collection to pick from.
Cheapshot
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2:31pm Mon 13 Aug 12
miltonarcher wrote:what he said!
laffaminute wrote:Can I suggest that when you are in a hole you should stop digging. Your posts are getting more and more desperate. You are like a drowning man, gasping for that last final breath before you sink below the waves. Bit like your club.
You really do feel inferior dont you, what are your amusing names you use on the pompey site to entertain us then, quite a large collection to pick from.
Exiled Saint - front line eastern outpost of Gosport
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2:34pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Its a formality
Mush On The Beach
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3:08pm Mon 13 Aug 12
miltonarcher wrote:Typical Skunt paradox,
laffaminute wrote:Can I suggest that when you are in a hole you should stop digging. Your posts are getting more and more desperate. You are like a drowning man, gasping for that last final breath before you sink below the waves. Bit like your club.
You really do feel inferior dont you, what are your amusing names you use on the pompey site to entertain us then, quite a large collection to pick from.
BIG tosser with SMALL testicles.
Don-Irelando
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3:13pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Both he and the vast majority of people on this site are regurgitating information that everyone already knows! "We need a new CB, number one, and some pacey wingers!"
The fact that we havent got either is not because NA doesnt know that, its because he cant get the ones he wants at the right price. People are saying he hasn't got the pulling power but selling our club and its vision to potential signings is something that both NA and NC are hughly adept at. This summer alone Buttner, Clyne, and Rodriguez all had other established prem teams after them but after coming to saints they said this was the place for them.
In NA and NC we trust!
batesieboy
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4:16pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Andover Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
batesieboy winjurys and suspensions happen over 38 games...we deffo need cb's!!injurys***I don't know what happened there! But I think Andover Saint was agreeing with me...we need to excellent centre-backs to challenge Jos.
OSPREYSAINT
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4:26pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:Pot calling the kettle black here!
You really do feel inferior dont you, what are your amusing names you use on the pompey site to entertain us then, quite a large collection to pick from.
OSPREYSAINT
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4:29pm Mon 13 Aug 12
laffaminute wrote:Gave up on the News site, there is enough in-fighting and **** going on within it, you don't need us to add fuel to the fire, which is till burning.
miltonarcher wrote:Inferiority complex about you lot ? infantile posts ? most of you lot live on the pompey site so i suggest its you who have the complex.
You have to worry for the mental state of the poopey underclass who post their drivel on here. If I supported the most corrupt club in the history of the professional game the last thing I would do is post on the forum of my main rivals who are clearly on an upward path whilst my club is plummeting down into the abyss that is non league. Obviously they can’t stand the fact we are where we are on merit and not as a result of corruption and cheating. They have a massive inferiority complex because their club is rubbish and they live in a dump of a city, perhaps seeing their infantile posts on here gives them a thrill as they sit at their grubby keyboards.
anderoo
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4:32pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Saint. wrote:I could not agree more with this post....the most sensible post ive read in ages
Oh get really Saints fans (including Benali)!
As much as it would be nice to see signings by now, look around and nearly every other club is in the very same boat due to Euros and Olympics! Only two days ago Mancini was moaning about the lack of signings, the richest club!
This week will see signings as something will give that will trigger off the market into action. It's not unique to Saints, just a little closer to home. Don't question what NC can do or not, as not one can not say he has not delivered on every front in so many ways already. It makes me laugh when some question if his way of dealing is the problem. Just look at the players brought who talk with real passion of where the club are going! Regards possible signings, Saints have not confirmed or denied them, which either says they could still materialise, who just may be NC is not letting the club be held to ransom, ie Butner third party. The club are clearly getting the right sort of team player in, who wants to play for the shirt.
So stop stirring it DE as you are clearly frustrated with the lack of real knowledge of what actually the club are doing!
Lastly Franny and others are looking at fourth from bottom as an success for Saints, which is negative. When NC and NA are loudly saying we are looking at Europe places or more, which is positive. NA has also clearly said signings will be coming for sure, and he is excited.
Please all remember we are well run club with a plan, and will not pay over the odds and go down silly street. We are positive and moving forward. The owners promise us prem in five and did it in three. They hardly not going to be aware of what the club is entering into and what is need to not stay in the prem, but succeed in the prem! Enjoy the ride Saints fans!
OSPREYSAINT
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4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12
bigfella777 wrote:What did he think about you?
Benali used to always play howlers more often than not anyway,he was very fit I would give him that,but didnt have the best touch in the game,I went to school with him,spoilt brat he was.
batesieboy
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4:33pm Mon 13 Aug 12
mack chinnon
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4:36pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Saintsayer II wrote:Yes.
Why are Southmpton people so pessimistic Worse case scenario .....we get relegated None of us will die from it
We have a good (not top class ) squad of professionals who have received coaching from NA who happens to have the highest level coaching certificate in Europe
We will easily survive the season and stay in the PL
By the time next season starts probably no more than half the current squad will be here In the meantime cheer up and smile We ar in the premier league
lowe esteem
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5:17pm Mon 13 Aug 12
St Retford wrote:Nor me. Perhaps Laffin boy would find the clown interesting.
SaintRachel wrote:Me either. But the thought of it kind of makes Nigel and a quiet summer in the transfer market seem ok though.
St Retford wrote:Nah.
We'd all like new signings but what price are we prepared to pay for them?
I'll tell you a guaranteed way of getting new faces in: we get Harry Redknapp back. He's just kicking around annoying his wife, and yet he's got a bulging contacts book, an eye for a deal and a peerless gift for spending other people's money.
Now THAT'S controversial. Anyone up for it?
I thought there was an unofficial window closure for the duration of the Olympics anyway, so don't panic Corporal.
More importantly, what did you christen your son, Ben or Ali or for Chrissakesgivethebal
ltomatty?
st.athan saint
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7:07pm Mon 13 Aug 12
Saintsayer II wrote:Thank god for your post I was just about to phone the samaritans after reading some of the posts on here !! It's not the cities arsenals chelseas and uniteds - the odd point here and there will be a bonus.But the squad is good enough to be competitive against the likes of fulham swansea albion and quite a few more. It seems that work is being done as usual behind the scenes.But seriously would you really want to us pay £10 million for Matt jarvis of wolves which appears to be the asking price. Having said that always rated MP. Def need CB and LB but way too early to panic.Remember Swansea lost 4-0 there first up last season and they didn't do too bad after !
Why are Southmpton people so pessimistic Worse case scenario .....we get relegated None of us will die from it
We have a good (not top class ) squad of professionals who have received coaching from NA who happens to have the highest level coaching certificate in Europe
We will easily survive the season and stay in the PL
By the time next season starts probably no more than half the current squad will be here In the meantime cheer up and smile We ar in the premier league
St Retford says...
9:21am Mon 13 Aug 12