Gaston Ramirez's move to Southampton balances on how payments will be made

Daily Echo: Gaston Ramirez Gaston Ramirez

GASTON Ramirez’s potential record move to Saints has taken another twist.

The protracted transfer saga is still not complete despite more talks between Saints and his Italian side Bologna.

Sources in Italy maintain that the clubs are more or less in agreement over a fee – but cannot agree terms on the schedule of it being paid.

Saints are believed to be prepared to meet Bolgona’s demand of 15m euros for the Uruguayan winger, pictured left, which is about £12m.

Ramirez’s former club Penarol, who still own 30 per cent of the player, are also understood to have agreed a deal with Saints to sell their share in him.

The sticking point remains a payment schedule, with the clubs struggling to find common ground. Bologna are insistent that they want the vast majority of the cash – as much as 10m euros – up front to allow them to go and buy replacements, with the rest of the cash coming within a year.

Most clubs though do try to follow the path that Saints wish to take which is to spread the payment over a longer period, often the length of a player’s contract, which in this instance would be four years.

The player himself is understood to still be very keen to come to St Mary’s, become the club’s record signing and highest ever paid player on wages estimated to be £60,000-£70,000 a week.

It is understood that other potential suitors for Ramirez in the shape of Tottenham, Liverpool and Inter Milan are looking elsewhere at this moment in time.

Saints are keen to get the deal done having put so much work into it and with time ticking down until the close of the transfer window, but will only complete the transfer if they can come to what they regard as acceptable terms.

The 21-year-old Ramirez would fit into Nigel Adkins ’ squad as an attacking talent, and would probably occupy one of the wide positions supporting the main striker in the new 4-3- 3 style formation.

Ramirez started his career at Penarol in Uruguay but was snapped up by Bologna two years ago for 2.5m euros.

He has gone on to score 12 goals in 58 appearances for the Italian side and won nine caps for Uruguay.

He was most recently seen playing for his country in the Olympics .

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8:44am Wed 22 Aug 12

Cheapshot says...

These things take time....you never know, it could just be his work permit holding things up (as usual). I think its fair to say that everything we hear about this transfer is just gossip and can't be taken as gospel! I just hope it happens!!
These things take time....you never know, it could just be his work permit holding things up (as usual). I think its fair to say that everything we hear about this transfer is just gossip and can't be taken as gospel! I just hope it happens!! Cheapshot

8:45am Wed 22 Aug 12

Just another reader says...

Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.
Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player. Just another reader

8:53am Wed 22 Aug 12

mike saint says...

Just pay the money. Weve already lost out on Alex Buttner by not paying up quick enough.
Just pay the money. Weve already lost out on Alex Buttner by not paying up quick enough. mike saint

8:53am Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him! Strasbourg Saint

8:54am Wed 22 Aug 12

Carinthian Saint says...

If it all goes through then great. Still seems a frightening prospect though paying those type of wages for one player. Still, the powers at be must know what they are doing.
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY!!!
If it all goes through then great. Still seems a frightening prospect though paying those type of wages for one player. Still, the powers at be must know what they are doing. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY!!! Carinthian Saint

8:56am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ? kissmya%%

8:58am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think..... kissmya%%

9:01am Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Sorry about that last post, I had one of those strange moments I now realise we all suffer on here from time to time. You know, like when fellow Saints fans say that NA isn't up to it, NC doesn't have a clue or the Leibherrs will pull out soon, or when skates say they have a proud history, the bestest fans in the world or will be back in the prem in a couple of years.

I'd always assumed it was people talking b0ll0cks, now I realise it's just one of those strange, 'tales of the unexpected' moments that only Confucious can properly explain.

Anyway, just to really get up certain people's noses early in the day, in NC/NA we trust!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Sorry about that last post, I had one of those strange moments I now realise we all suffer on here from time to time. You know, like when fellow Saints fans say that NA isn't up to it, NC doesn't have a clue or the Leibherrs will pull out soon, or when skates say they have a proud history, the bestest fans in the world or will be back in the prem in a couple of years. I'd always assumed it was people talking b0ll0cks, now I realise it's just one of those strange, 'tales of the unexpected' moments that only Confucious can properly explain. Anyway, just to really get up certain people's noses early in the day, in NC/NA we trust! Strasbourg Saint

9:02am Wed 22 Aug 12

StevieSteve says...

kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?
At left back, maybe! Midfield...no.
[quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?[/p][/quote]At left back, maybe! Midfield...no. StevieSteve

9:04am Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintMax says...

Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it.
Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it. SaintMax

9:04am Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
....... yes, that, too!

............. and the cheese!

....................
.. the the wine!
[quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine! Strasbourg Saint

9:04am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

StevieSteve wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?
At left back, maybe! Midfield...no.
valid point !
[quote][p][bold]StevieSteve[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?[/p][/quote]At left back, maybe! Midfield...no.[/p][/quote]valid point ! kissmya%%

9:05am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
....... yes, that, too!

............. and the cheese!

....................

.. the the wine!
lol nice early start then !
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine![/p][/quote]lol nice early start then ! kissmya%%

9:06am Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SaintMax wrote:
Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it.
I gather they've fitted a merry-go-round in the home dressing room.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it.[/p][/quote]I gather they've fitted a merry-go-round in the home dressing room. Strasbourg Saint

9:07am Wed 22 Aug 12

Hobson82 says...

kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?
HAHAHAHA that's funny. Luke Shaw is so much better.
[quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?[/p][/quote]HAHAHAHA that's funny. Luke Shaw is so much better. Hobson82

9:08am Wed 22 Aug 12

only1chopper says...

Another story abouth the twists and turns of bringing this bloke to the club. Come back to us when we have either signed him and is on the os, or if it goes tits up. Now go and sign up Philips and a decent cb and I can rest easy!
Another story abouth the twists and turns of bringing this bloke to the club. Come back to us when we have either signed him and is on the os, or if it goes tits up. Now go and sign up Philips and a decent cb and I can rest easy! only1chopper

9:17am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dickosfc says...

I say pay up if we can. If he's as good as we expect and proves himself in the prem then his sell on would be even higher and you never know he could turn out to be a true Saint and want to stay so to me it’s a win, win!!

Plus, didn’t we demand a massive chunk up front for your AOC. Bologna will want to re-invest so can understand where they’re coming from.
I say pay up if we can. If he's as good as we expect and proves himself in the prem then his sell on would be even higher and you never know he could turn out to be a true Saint and want to stay so to me it’s a win, win!! Plus, didn’t we demand a massive chunk up front for your AOC. Bologna will want to re-invest so can understand where they’re coming from. Dickosfc

9:20am Wed 22 Aug 12

alan.of.eastleigh says...

The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw.

We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.
The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets. alan.of.eastleigh

9:27am Wed 22 Aug 12

RedArmy1 says...

We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. COYR
We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. COYR RedArmy1

9:27am Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintMax says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it.
I gather they've fitted a merry-go-round in the home dressing room.
Notice they also no longer have names on the players shirts too, as its first come first serve. Did you see their winger last night with huge shorts on, and the full back had to wear his own socks.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: Apparently Pompey are bidding to offer him an hourly rate. If he stays there all day he will get a name badge with 5 stars on it.[/p][/quote]I gather they've fitted a merry-go-round in the home dressing room.[/p][/quote]Notice they also no longer have names on the players shirts too, as its first come first serve. Did you see their winger last night with huge shorts on, and the full back had to wear his own socks. SaintMax

9:30am Wed 22 Aug 12

Darkangelv2 says...

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:
The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.
This.

No way we're in the £60-70k leagues - too much boat rocking if we start heading that way.

However, i suspect the wage structure is a bit spurious when it comes to the bonus structure that we layer on top of the salary.
[quote][p][bold]alan.of.eastleigh[/bold] wrote: The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.[/p][/quote]This. No way we're in the £60-70k leagues - too much boat rocking if we start heading that way. However, i suspect the wage structure is a bit spurious when it comes to the bonus structure that we layer on top of the salary. Darkangelv2

9:41am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...

kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?

no.........end of
kissmya%% wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ? no.........end of alanrr

9:43am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...

buttner tapped up by utd after we raised his profile now ramirez will follow that same path unfortunately
buttner tapped up by utd after we raised his profile now ramirez will follow that same path unfortunately alanrr

9:46am Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintMax says...

alanrr wrote:
buttner tapped up by utd after we raised his profile now ramirez will follow that same path unfortunately
does the 'R' in your name stand for 'Really cheery'? Though I agree about Richardson he isnt in the Saints target mold.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: buttner tapped up by utd after we raised his profile now ramirez will follow that same path unfortunately[/p][/quote]does the 'R' in your name stand for 'Really cheery'? Though I agree about Richardson he isnt in the Saints target mold. SaintMax

9:51am Wed 22 Aug 12

LeTissiersEarLobe says...

Gaston, soon you will be adored by the fine people of Southampton, we will ensure your stay is a happy one! Have a quiet word with the chairman and tell him to get a fu@kin move on please, I can't keep pressing refresh n the echo website, read stories about knob head "playboy" tanning salon idiots cos the echo hasn't got a clue what to write about ! Please Gaston I've got a day off today, let's sort this once and for all
Gaston, soon you will be adored by the fine people of Southampton, we will ensure your stay is a happy one! Have a quiet word with the chairman and tell him to get a fu@kin move on please, I can't keep pressing refresh n the echo website, read stories about knob head "playboy" tanning salon idiots cos the echo hasn't got a clue what to write about ! Please Gaston I've got a day off today, let's sort this once and for all LeTissiersEarLobe

9:52am Wed 22 Aug 12

LeTissiersEarLobe says...

Gaston, soon you will be adored by the fine people of Southampton, we will ensure your stay is a happy one! Have a quiet word with the chairman and tell him to get a fu@kin move on please, I can't keep pressing refresh n the echo website, read stories about knob head "playboy" tanning salon idiots cos the echo hasn't got a clue what to write about ! Please Gaston I've got a day off today, let's sort this once and for all
Gaston, soon you will be adored by the fine people of Southampton, we will ensure your stay is a happy one! Have a quiet word with the chairman and tell him to get a fu@kin move on please, I can't keep pressing refresh n the echo website, read stories about knob head "playboy" tanning salon idiots cos the echo hasn't got a clue what to write about ! Please Gaston I've got a day off today, let's sort this once and for all LeTissiersEarLobe

9:52am Wed 22 Aug 12

Santo Levante says...

Despite the brilliant display from the whole team Ramirez is the sort of player we were lacking on Sunday to put City on the back foot. Whilst the midfield attacked well we never had that pace and pressure which City exerted. Sign him up!
Anyone else got concerns about signing Butland after his nightmare for Birmingham last evening? Makes me realise that signing a young goalkeeper is a huge risk at this level, time to look elsewhere?
Despite the brilliant display from the whole team Ramirez is the sort of player we were lacking on Sunday to put City on the back foot. Whilst the midfield attacked well we never had that pace and pressure which City exerted. Sign him up! Anyone else got concerns about signing Butland after his nightmare for Birmingham last evening? Makes me realise that signing a young goalkeeper is a huge risk at this level, time to look elsewhere? Santo Levante

9:53am Wed 22 Aug 12

costa gaz says...

Whenever the words " transfer in doubt " are used, it nearly always means not happening.
Hoping this is the exception.
Whenever the words " transfer in doubt " are used, it nearly always means not happening. Hoping this is the exception. costa gaz

9:55am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dubai Loyal SFC says...

alan.of.eastleigh wrote:
The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.
spot on....sensible post
[quote][p][bold]alan.of.eastleigh[/bold] wrote: The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.[/p][/quote]spot on....sensible post Dubai Loyal SFC

9:56am Wed 22 Aug 12

D4n1el says...

Santo Levante wrote:
Despite the brilliant display from the whole team Ramirez is the sort of player we were lacking on Sunday to put City on the back foot. Whilst the midfield attacked well we never had that pace and pressure which City exerted. Sign him up!
Anyone else got concerns about signing Butland after his nightmare for Birmingham last evening? Makes me realise that signing a young goalkeeper is a huge risk at this level, time to look elsewhere?
I thought the Butland deal was dead in the water a long time ago? We've got Gazza now as a young keeper.
[quote][p][bold]Santo Levante[/bold] wrote: Despite the brilliant display from the whole team Ramirez is the sort of player we were lacking on Sunday to put City on the back foot. Whilst the midfield attacked well we never had that pace and pressure which City exerted. Sign him up! Anyone else got concerns about signing Butland after his nightmare for Birmingham last evening? Makes me realise that signing a young goalkeeper is a huge risk at this level, time to look elsewhere?[/p][/quote]I thought the Butland deal was dead in the water a long time ago? We've got Gazza now as a young keeper. D4n1el

9:58am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

alanrr wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?

no.........end of
end of ......... chav are we?
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: kissmya%% wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ? no.........end of[/p][/quote]end of ......... chav are we? kissmya%%

10:02am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...

people forget it was our scouts that first noticed a striker called drogba
people forget it was our scouts that first noticed a striker called drogba alanrr

10:07am Wed 22 Aug 12

redsnapper says...

Those QPR signings look a good move, why arent we in there? especially Carvaliho...

One huge plus of being in the Prem is very few midweek matches, less injuries
more recovery time so cant wait till Saturday..Hope Fox redeems himself.
Those QPR signings look a good move, why arent we in there? especially Carvaliho... One huge plus of being in the Prem is very few midweek matches, less injuries more recovery time so cant wait till Saturday..Hope Fox redeems himself. redsnapper

10:08am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...


alanrr wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?

no.........end of
end of ......... chav are we?”

no otherwise i would have put......no innit lol

the guy is an injury disaster and only scored 1 good goal that i can remember
❝ alanrr wrote: kissmya%% wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ? no.........end of end of ......... chav are we?” no otherwise i would have put......no innit lol the guy is an injury disaster and only scored 1 good goal that i can remember alanrr

10:09am Wed 22 Aug 12

D4n1el says...

West Ham have bid £10m for Matt Jarvis.
Is it just me that would much rather have Ramirez for £12m?
West Ham have bid £10m for Matt Jarvis. Is it just me that would much rather have Ramirez for £12m? D4n1el

10:14am Wed 22 Aug 12

kissmya%% says...

alanrr wrote:

alanrr wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ?

no.........end of
end of ......... chav are we?”

no otherwise i would have put......no innit lol

the guy is an injury disaster and only scored 1 good goal that i can remember
Good point regarding KR , it just seems a lot of reasonable players are going adrift bassong he wasent great but could be worth a gamble .
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: ❝ alanrr wrote: kissmya%% wrote: Does anyone think kieran richardson could do a good job ? no.........end of end of ......... chav are we?” no otherwise i would have put......no innit lol the guy is an injury disaster and only scored 1 good goal that i can remember[/p][/quote]Good point regarding KR , it just seems a lot of reasonable players are going adrift bassong he wasent great but could be worth a gamble . kissmya%%

10:18am Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

D4n1el wrote:
West Ham have bid £10m for Matt Jarvis.
Is it just me that would much rather have Ramirez for £12m?
From the little I know, I agree with you .....

.......... or both perhaps!

At the other end, Curtis Davis or one of the others being mentioned?
[quote][p][bold]D4n1el[/bold] wrote: West Ham have bid £10m for Matt Jarvis. Is it just me that would much rather have Ramirez for £12m?[/p][/quote]From the little I know, I agree with you ..... .......... or both perhaps! At the other end, Curtis Davis or one of the others being mentioned? Strasbourg Saint

10:18am Wed 22 Aug 12

Prit says...

Ramirez deal getting ever closer.

Is it just me ? 'Improved' web site now awful plus 'official' football league app totally dead !
WTF !!!

COYR
Ramirez deal getting ever closer. Is it just me ? 'Improved' web site now awful plus 'official' football league app totally dead ! WTF !!! COYR Prit

10:19am Wed 22 Aug 12

saintshorse101 says...

butland yet again covered himself in glory last night £7+mill and starting in the first team, glad we pulled away from that one.
poopey could sign ramirez but he who must not be named will have to go cap in hand to the local businesses that they have ripped off over the last 3 years!
he should be ashamed of himself, asking people to chip in to pay players wages that the club cant afford! why cant that club just cut its cloth? yet again trying to gain an unfair advantage over the rest of the league. do what every other club has done and play your youth!
butland yet again covered himself in glory last night £7+mill and starting in the first team, glad we pulled away from that one. poopey could sign ramirez but he who must not be named will have to go cap in hand to the local businesses that they have ripped off over the last 3 years! he should be ashamed of himself, asking people to chip in to pay players wages that the club cant afford! why cant that club just cut its cloth? yet again trying to gain an unfair advantage over the rest of the league. do what every other club has done and play your youth! saintshorse101

10:22am Wed 22 Aug 12

Becky67 says...

Darkangelv2 wrote:
alan.of.eastleigh wrote:
The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.
This.

No way we're in the £60-70k leagues - too much boat rocking if we start heading that way.

However, i suspect the wage structure is a bit spurious when it comes to the bonus structure that we layer on top of the salary.
The 60-70k per week came from the player himself, when he said he would be earning 2 million per year NET
[quote][p][bold]Darkangelv2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan.of.eastleigh[/bold] wrote: The salary quoted is way off the mark. We have a wage structure at SFC and it is unlikely he will be offered significantly more than Lallana or Lambert. Based on more accurate reports elsewhere, this is likely to be around £28,000 pw. We also have a policy of not borrowing money to fund transfers (from the bank or the Leibherrs). It could potentially be commercially suicide for the club to pay the fee up front. Either Bologna wise up and compromise or we move on to other targets.[/p][/quote]This. No way we're in the £60-70k leagues - too much boat rocking if we start heading that way. However, i suspect the wage structure is a bit spurious when it comes to the bonus structure that we layer on top of the salary.[/p][/quote]The 60-70k per week came from the player himself, when he said he would be earning 2 million per year NET Becky67

10:25am Wed 22 Aug 12

Confucious says...

It's frustrating when a deal seems to stall over a relatively small sum at the fringe of the big sum actually involved. But a small sum to one can be a big sum to another.

My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.
It's frustrating when a deal seems to stall over a relatively small sum at the fringe of the big sum actually involved. But a small sum to one can be a big sum to another. My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money. Confucious

10:27am Wed 22 Aug 12

D4n1el says...

No idea how reliable this is...
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No idea how reliable this is... http://www.caughtoff side.com/2012/08/21/ liverpool-ready-to-m ake-18m-serie-a-youn gster-gaston-ramirez -fourth-summer-signi ng-as-anfield-side-p repare-to-meet-askin g-price/ D4n1el

10:29am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...

My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.”

surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more
My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.” surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more alanrr

10:32am Wed 22 Aug 12

St.Yorkie says...

If you believe all you read - the deal is done providing Bologna can obtain a loan against future payments by Saints!
With Italy in a worse financial state than here - the likelihood of a loan is zero! So it's take the terms we are offering or we pull out is how I read the situation!
If you believe all you read - the deal is done providing Bologna can obtain a loan against future payments by Saints! With Italy in a worse financial state than here - the likelihood of a loan is zero! So it's take the terms we are offering or we pull out is how I read the situation! St.Yorkie

10:33am Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

alanrr wrote:
My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.”

surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more
You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog.
[quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.” surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more[/p][/quote]You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog. Rising_Son

10:35am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes.

I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City?
Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes. I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City? Dino-Saw-Us

10:40am Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

Dino-Saw-Us wrote:
Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes.

I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City?
Better than we feared. Not as well as we dreamt. Pretty well actually, all things considered.
[quote][p][bold]Dino-Saw-Us[/bold] wrote: Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes. I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City?[/p][/quote]Better than we feared. Not as well as we dreamt. Pretty well actually, all things considered. Rising_Son

10:42am Wed 22 Aug 12

Confucious says...

Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.”

surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more
You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog.
There's some truth in that.

I bought a lot of dog training books to get him out of his bad habits. In no time at all I had him eating out of my leg.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.” surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more[/p][/quote]You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog.[/p][/quote]There's some truth in that. I bought a lot of dog training books to get him out of his bad habits. In no time at all I had him eating out of my leg. Confucious

10:43am Wed 22 Aug 12

alanrr says...

Dino-Saw-Us says...
10:35am Wed 22 Aug 12

Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes.

I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City?

they did ok though man c were never on top form and if fox had headed backwards instead of forward we would have got a deserved draw
Dino-Saw-Us says... 10:35am Wed 22 Aug 12 Boruc - Ex Celtic available on a Free transfer, might be worth a punt to keep KD on his toes. I've been away for a few days, and missed the city game, how did Hoover and Fonte hold up with the pace of City? they did ok though man c were never on top form and if fox had headed backwards instead of forward we would have got a deserved draw alanrr

10:44am Wed 22 Aug 12

lambo83 says...

We need defenders!
We need defenders! lambo83

10:45am Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

Confucious wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
alanrr wrote:
My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.”

surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more
You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog.
There's some truth in that.

I bought a lot of dog training books to get him out of his bad habits. In no time at all I had him eating out of my leg.
Well, that shouldn't be too much of a loss. That is, unless you need your leg to do things like walk and play football.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alanrr[/bold] wrote: My dog Fenton was surprisingly really bothered when he noticed his Pedigree Chum had gone up from 77p a tin to 82p. That's a mere 5p to us, but I think it's £50 in dog money.” surely confucious you only multiply by 7 for doggie details that makes it 35p more[/p][/quote]You're obviously giving your dog too much pocket money. Please be careful, if things take a financial turn for the worse, then that could mean liquidation for you and your dog.[/p][/quote]There's some truth in that. I bought a lot of dog training books to get him out of his bad habits. In no time at all I had him eating out of my leg.[/p][/quote]Well, that shouldn't be too much of a loss. That is, unless you need your leg to do things like walk and play football. Rising_Son

10:47am Wed 22 Aug 12

Don-Irelando says...

I expect once won transfer goes through then they will all start to move. We are still in the hunt of Phillips but if he isnt going to go for £6m then that limits us on what we can pay upfront for Ramirez.

If we had bought Scott Dann and then had seen Dawson go for 2.5m more I would have been fuming.

Although all of this is taking its time- and as long as we get some names in before the end of the month- I have been happy with the way Saints have conducted themselves so far with our targets.

Phillips:
was on my wish list at the end of last season- along with Zaha who we have also been linked with, but not going to happen.

Jay Rod: scored some great goals last season in an average team and offers us a bit of airial threat if Ricky is injured which we were seriously lacking.

Clyne: appears to be a great signing and we beat of some major teams to get him in.

Buttner: althought the man couldnt even get on the bench for a team dubbed by their nationals as 'the team with no left back', i'll let Sir Alex pull rank and ill concede there must be something decent about him.

now I know the bullets amongst you are going to point out we haven't signed all of these but they are all plays that I would want at our club. Id prefer that then the graveyard shift at QPR.
I expect once won transfer goes through then they will all start to move. We are still in the hunt of Phillips but if he isnt going to go for £6m then that limits us on what we can pay upfront for Ramirez. If we had bought Scott Dann and then had seen Dawson go for 2.5m more I would have been fuming. Although all of this is taking its time- and as long as we get some names in before the end of the month- I have been happy with the way Saints have conducted themselves so far with our targets. Phillips: was on my wish list at the end of last season- along with Zaha who we have also been linked with, but not going to happen. Jay Rod: scored some great goals last season in an average team and offers us a bit of airial threat if Ricky is injured which we were seriously lacking. Clyne: appears to be a great signing and we beat of some major teams to get him in. Buttner: althought the man couldnt even get on the bench for a team dubbed by their nationals as 'the team with no left back', i'll let Sir Alex pull rank and ill concede there must be something decent about him. now I know the bullets amongst you are going to point out we haven't signed all of these but they are all plays that I would want at our club. Id prefer that then the graveyard shift at QPR. Don-Irelando

10:51am Wed 22 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't?

The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:00am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

To everyone that is moaning about transfers we've already brought in a few and promoted from within . . .

I don't remember a summer when we've added 7 new faces too the team and spent so much money.

I see Danny N'Guessen is being linked with his 6 monthly transfer movement again! Poor Guy no-one wants him! (Not that I blame them)

Also what about Dale Jenning, went to Bayern last summer (or the year before) he must have learned a few more skills by now and was pretty fast, would be a good bench warmer with some pace to burn against tired legs with 10 minutes to go - loan?
To everyone that is moaning about transfers we've already brought in a few and promoted from within . . . I don't remember a summer when we've added 7 new faces too the team and spent so much money. I see Danny N'Guessen is being linked with his 6 monthly transfer movement again! Poor Guy no-one wants him! (Not that I blame them) Also what about Dale Jenning, went to Bayern last summer (or the year before) he must have learned a few more skills by now and was pretty fast, would be a good bench warmer with some pace to burn against tired legs with 10 minutes to go - loan? Dino-Saw-Us

11:01am Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintJD says...

Whether this signing comes off or not, I think Saints fans can feel pretty comfortable that NA and NC will do the right thing for the club. I do think defensive signings are needed, but elsewhere I think we have enough, anything else is just a bonus. My gut instinct is that we should stick firmly to our policy of buying players who are happy for the opportunity to play in the premier league - young and a good fit in the dressing room. Clyne is a great example, which is why I think Phillips is a safer bet. Both Buttner and now Ramirez seem a bit too self obsessed and quick to go public for me. Team spirit and togetherness will keep us up this season, not individuals. Yes, if his wages fit in, fantastic, but I would never risk creating a two-tier dressing room, especially when we have built such a tight unit.
Whether this signing comes off or not, I think Saints fans can feel pretty comfortable that NA and NC will do the right thing for the club. I do think defensive signings are needed, but elsewhere I think we have enough, anything else is just a bonus. My gut instinct is that we should stick firmly to our policy of buying players who are happy for the opportunity to play in the premier league - young and a good fit in the dressing room. Clyne is a great example, which is why I think Phillips is a safer bet. Both Buttner and now Ramirez seem a bit too self obsessed and quick to go public for me. Team spirit and togetherness will keep us up this season, not individuals. Yes, if his wages fit in, fantastic, but I would never risk creating a two-tier dressing room, especially when we have built such a tight unit. SaintJD

11:03am Wed 22 Aug 12

St Retford says...

kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
Marie Curie
[quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]Marie Curie St Retford

11:09am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

Anyone else gutted not to have got Michu or £2m?
Anyone else gutted not to have got Michu or £2m? Dino-Saw-Us

11:12am Wed 22 Aug 12

D4n1el says...

Dino-Saw-Us wrote:
Anyone else gutted not to have got Michu or £2m?
Yeah. I think we really missed out with him and Buttner.
[quote][p][bold]Dino-Saw-Us[/bold] wrote: Anyone else gutted not to have got Michu or £2m?[/p][/quote]Yeah. I think we really missed out with him and Buttner. D4n1el

11:25am Wed 22 Aug 12

Don-Irelando says...

It is understood a fee and payment plan has been negotiated for the 21-year-old winger, who has won nine caps for Uruguay.

Former club Penarol, who own 30% of his registration, are also satisfied by the terms of the agreement.

However, it is understood cash-strapped Bologna are stalling as they seek to secure a loan against the repayments.

STAY TUNED I HAVE A FEELING IT WILL BE TODAY!- either way
It is understood a fee and payment plan has been negotiated for the 21-year-old winger, who has won nine caps for Uruguay. Former club Penarol, who own 30% of his registration, are also satisfied by the terms of the agreement. However, it is understood cash-strapped Bologna are stalling as they seek to secure a loan against the repayments. STAY TUNED I HAVE A FEELING IT WILL BE TODAY!- either way Don-Irelando

11:25am Wed 22 Aug 12

andrewsmith782000 says...

i have checked this player out on youtube and think that this deal should get sorted out a quickly as pos or we wont get him.he would be a great for the team and the moral would be great and also other teams would start to panic on what saints are about winning .
i have checked this player out on youtube and think that this deal should get sorted out a quickly as pos or we wont get him.he would be a great for the team and the moral would be great and also other teams would start to panic on what saints are about winning . andrewsmith782000

11:32am Wed 22 Aug 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

If West ham or QPR go down they are gunna be in MASSIVE trouble,
Especially the Hammers... I would love to see what their wage bill looks like!
If West ham or QPR go down they are gunna be in MASSIVE trouble, Especially the Hammers... I would love to see what their wage bill looks like! Dino-Saw-Us

11:33am Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintPC says...

I think what we all have to remember is that these transfer deals, and the contractual negotiations that take place along with them are a lot more complicated than they sound. Anyone who had worked (as I have) in trying to negotiate contracts and large business deals knows that there are a lot of influencing factors outside of just the four parties (player, agent, and two clubs) being broadly in agreement on the value of the deal.

With regard to some of the people we have missed out on, us simply wanting to sign them doesnt alway mean that they want to come to us (foolish for them, but true!).

Buttner - Looks good, but sounds like they were waiting for Utd to decide on making an offer and we were put on hold.

Michu - Good player, but I am not sure he didnt choose Swansea over Saints, due to the Laudrup factor?

Phillips - I like this guy and it seems he wants to come to Saints. It depends on the Blackpool Chairman, but hopefully we will get him in the next week.

Ramirez - Trying to bridge finance payment schedules with upfront loans is commonplace, but nevertheless harder to do in Italy than it is here. They will be wanting to get upfront fees to sign the player to replace him. I actually think this signing will happen, unless it is a ruse by Bologna to delay until a club offers a higher upfront fee i.e. Liverpool.

The real business that we need to do is sign a quality centre-half, or two. I am not sure 9m for Dawson is good value given his perpetual injuries, and we dont need to bring in 1 year journeymen like Carvalho either.

I suspect that the transfer market is stuck a little at the moment, once a couple of the big deals go through i.e. Modric, Hulk, etc that usually frees up the market as there is then the money in motion, clubs wont sell until they know the player they want to buy is available, and likewise his club will feel the same.....it's chicken and egg!

This will all happen over the final 3-4 days of the window, it always does, as that is when something has to give in negotiations - until then it is a staring game!

I await the fun and games, come on Saints!!!
I think what we all have to remember is that these transfer deals, and the contractual negotiations that take place along with them are a lot more complicated than they sound. Anyone who had worked (as I have) in trying to negotiate contracts and large business deals knows that there are a lot of influencing factors outside of just the four parties (player, agent, and two clubs) being broadly in agreement on the value of the deal. With regard to some of the people we have missed out on, us simply wanting to sign them doesnt alway mean that they want to come to us (foolish for them, but true!). Buttner - Looks good, but sounds like they were waiting for Utd to decide on making an offer and we were put on hold. Michu - Good player, but I am not sure he didnt choose Swansea over Saints, due to the Laudrup factor? Phillips - I like this guy and it seems he wants to come to Saints. It depends on the Blackpool Chairman, but hopefully we will get him in the next week. Ramirez - Trying to bridge finance payment schedules with upfront loans is commonplace, but nevertheless harder to do in Italy than it is here. They will be wanting to get upfront fees to sign the player to replace him. I actually think this signing will happen, unless it is a ruse by Bologna to delay until a club offers a higher upfront fee i.e. Liverpool. The real business that we need to do is sign a quality centre-half, or two. I am not sure 9m for Dawson is good value given his perpetual injuries, and we dont need to bring in 1 year journeymen like Carvalho either. I suspect that the transfer market is stuck a little at the moment, once a couple of the big deals go through i.e. Modric, Hulk, etc that usually frees up the market as there is then the money in motion, clubs wont sell until they know the player they want to buy is available, and likewise his club will feel the same.....it's chicken and egg! This will all happen over the final 3-4 days of the window, it always does, as that is when something has to give in negotiations - until then it is a staring game! I await the fun and games, come on Saints!!! SaintPC

11:35am Wed 22 Aug 12

Confucious says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't?

The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable.

I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week.

I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy. Confucious

11:36am Wed 22 Aug 12

Footso says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine!
Trop du vin Portugais?

Heureux anniversaire, tardive, by the way!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine![/p][/quote]Trop du vin Portugais? Heureux anniversaire, tardive, by the way! Footso

12:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Footso wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine!
Trop du vin Portugais?

Heureux anniversaire, tardive, by the way!
Ha! Merci beacoup!

..... and you're dead right. The big 5-0 yesterday and the big headache today.
Here's hoping NC buys me a late pressy in the shape of Ramirez!
[quote][p][bold]Footso[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]....... yes, that, too! ............. and the cheese! .................... .. the the wine![/p][/quote]Trop du vin Portugais? Heureux anniversaire, tardive, by the way![/p][/quote]Ha! Merci beacoup! ..... and you're dead right. The big 5-0 yesterday and the big headache today. Here's hoping NC buys me a late pressy in the shape of Ramirez! Strasbourg Saint

12:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

up saints says...

if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k up saints

12:14pm Wed 22 Aug 12

francey says...

no doubt he is a quality player, but I agree with what matt le tiss said we need more quality defenders and I also think we need a midfielder who can hassle people like what chris marsden used to do..... I think the 12m would be better invested this way.....not chris marsden though !!!
no doubt he is a quality player, but I agree with what matt le tiss said we need more quality defenders and I also think we need a midfielder who can hassle people like what chris marsden used to do..... I think the 12m would be better invested this way.....not chris marsden though !!! francey

12:15pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
kissmya%% wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him!
Too much french bread I think.....
Marie Curie
I ate one of those once and spent the next few days on the loo. Since then, I've always made do with a chicken korma!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kissmya%%[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: If we don't hurry up and sort it out, Pompey will jump in and sign him![/p][/quote]Too much french bread I think.....[/p][/quote]Marie Curie[/p][/quote]I ate one of those once and spent the next few days on the loo. Since then, I've always made do with a chicken korma! Strasbourg Saint

12:17pm Wed 22 Aug 12

mr tein says...

Just another reader wrote:
Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.
ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them
[quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.[/p][/quote]ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them mr tein

12:21pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals
With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals SO50 Saint

12:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't?

The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable.

I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week.

I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine!

The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s. Seedhouse the Unrepentant

1:06pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warsash patriot says...

Carinthian Saint wrote:
If it all goes through then great. Still seems a frightening prospect though paying those type of wages for one player. Still, the powers at be must know what they are doing.
RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY!!!
stop thinking like a championship supporter you are not you are premiership lets go for it
[quote][p][bold]Carinthian Saint[/bold] wrote: If it all goes through then great. Still seems a frightening prospect though paying those type of wages for one player. Still, the powers at be must know what they are doing. RED ARRRRRRRRRRRMY!!![/p][/quote]stop thinking like a championship supporter you are not you are premiership lets go for it Warsash patriot

1:14pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals
Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :)
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals[/p][/quote]Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :) Strasbourg Saint

1:19pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warsash patriot says...

I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski
I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski Warsash patriot

1:24pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warsash patriot says...

mr tein wrote:
Just another reader wrote:
Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.
ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them
they held on to their good buys too long and were worth nothing in the end too old and past it but NC is buying young and for the future
[quote][p][bold]mr tein[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.[/p][/quote]ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them[/p][/quote]they held on to their good buys too long and were worth nothing in the end too old and past it but NC is buying young and for the future Warsash patriot

1:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals


Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :)”

Haha strasbourg I read that back to myself and thought what on earth did i type that for? Then just hoped it would get ignored :)

I really do think he will be an inspired signing for very little money anyone you hear speak about him always has good things to say.
SO50 Saint wrote: With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :)” Haha strasbourg I read that back to myself and thought what on earth did i type that for? Then just hoped it would get ignored :) I really do think he will be an inspired signing for very little money anyone you hear speak about him always has good things to say. SO50 Saint

1:29pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

Warsash patriot wrote:
I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski
I think I understand most of what you're saying, and even agree, but what exactly do you expect us to accumulate through speculating?
[quote][p][bold]Warsash patriot[/bold] wrote: I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski[/p][/quote]I think I understand most of what you're saying, and even agree, but what exactly do you expect us to accumulate through speculating? Rising_Son

1:33pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

Warsash patriot wrote:
mr tein wrote:
Just another reader wrote:
Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.
ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them
they held on to their good buys too long and were worth nothing in the end too old and past it but NC is buying young and for the future
Actually, poopey didn't hold on to their good buys too long. Their good buys held on to them too long (or just about the right length of time, depending on your point of view).
[quote][p][bold]Warsash patriot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mr tein[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Just another reader[/bold] wrote: Just stump up the cash or we will miss another quality player.[/p][/quote]ah the portsmouth approach to player purchasing. look where that got them[/p][/quote]they held on to their good buys too long and were worth nothing in the end too old and past it but NC is buying young and for the future[/p][/quote]Actually, poopey didn't hold on to their good buys too long. Their good buys held on to them too long (or just about the right length of time, depending on your point of view). Rising_Son

1:44pm Wed 22 Aug 12

worried of n e hampshire says...

this rameriz guy looks good - see vid

http://www.joe.ie/fo
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this rameriz guy looks good - see vid http://www.joe.ie/fo otball/football-news /video-who-is-southa mpton-target-gaston- ramirez-0027772-1 worried of n e hampshire

1:46pm Wed 22 Aug 12

FreeNelsonMantle says...

mike saint wrote:
Just pay the money. Weve already lost out on Alex Buttner by not paying up quick enough.
I dont think it was a case of us not paying quick enough, probably that the "3rd party" was one of the biggest clubs in the world, and now he's there
[quote][p][bold]mike saint[/bold] wrote: Just pay the money. Weve already lost out on Alex Buttner by not paying up quick enough.[/p][/quote]I dont think it was a case of us not paying quick enough, probably that the "3rd party" was one of the biggest clubs in the world, and now he's there FreeNelsonMantle

1:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals


Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :)”

Haha strasbourg I read that back to myself and thought what on earth did i type that for? Then just hoped it would get ignored :)

I really do think he will be an inspired signing for very little money anyone you hear speak about him always has good things to say.
Agreed! JWP was excellent on Sunday, but I was surprised Davis didn't start ahead of him.

Must have been something he ate!
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: SO50 Saint wrote: With the remark about Chris Marsden I can see Steve Davis being that sort of player plus chucking in a few goals Agree about Davis, but he needs to watch what he eats if he's going to start 'chucking', whether it's 'in a few goals', or at both ends of every ground in the prem. :)” Haha strasbourg I read that back to myself and thought what on earth did i type that for? Then just hoped it would get ignored :) I really do think he will be an inspired signing for very little money anyone you hear speak about him always has good things to say.[/p][/quote]Agreed! JWP was excellent on Sunday, but I was surprised Davis didn't start ahead of him. Must have been something he ate! Strasbourg Saint

1:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

WobblyCat says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine. WobblyCat

1:50pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Warsash patriot says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Warsash patriot wrote:
I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski
I think I understand most of what you're saying, and even agree, but what exactly do you expect us to accumulate through speculating?
All I am saying the playing staff is or real wealth and if you dip into the market with a relatively small sum of money (premiership wise) and sell on for an awful lot more in a few years that is good business.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warsash patriot[/bold] wrote: I think some of our supporters just don't get it, we are premiership if we wish to remain so especially for the 70% rise in income next year, then we must speculate to accumulate, take Ramirez for example he is young and will get better thus proving to be an investment he may be worth 30m in two or three years time if not we will surely get back what we paid for him, so come on lets take on the likes of manure, arse-nal and chelski[/p][/quote]I think I understand most of what you're saying, and even agree, but what exactly do you expect us to accumulate through speculating?[/p][/quote]All I am saying the playing staff is or real wealth and if you dip into the market with a relatively small sum of money (premiership wise) and sell on for an awful lot more in a few years that is good business. Warsash patriot

1:57pm Wed 22 Aug 12

FreeNelsonMantle says...

up saints wrote:
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players.

It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k[/p][/quote]We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players. It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting. FreeNelsonMantle

2:07pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
Oooooooooo, that sucks!

No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant!
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.[/p][/quote]Oooooooooo, that sucks! No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant! Strasbourg Saint

2:12pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
Oooooooooo, that sucks!

No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant!
What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.[/p][/quote]Oooooooooo, that sucks! No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant![/p][/quote]What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"? Confucious

2:13pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Alicesdad says...

WobblyCat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
Gentlemen Gentlemen, show some decorum !! All very plausible. Sounds more like blowing in the wind. You will all be suffering from the problems of hyper inflation. I hope you are ready for the bubble to burst.

... and you couldn't fit a list of those creditors on both legs of a basektball player !!
[quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.[/p][/quote]Gentlemen Gentlemen, show some decorum !! All very plausible. Sounds more like blowing in the wind. You will all be suffering from the problems of hyper inflation. I hope you are ready for the bubble to burst. ... and you couldn't fit a list of those creditors on both legs of a basektball player !! Alicesdad

2:16pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Alicesdad says...

Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
Oooooooooo, that sucks!

No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant!
What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"?
Any minute now you are going to be told off by the Echo ..
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.[/p][/quote]Oooooooooo, that sucks! No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant![/p][/quote]What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"?[/p][/quote]Any minute now you are going to be told off by the Echo .. Alicesdad

2:20pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Stroppy_gramps says...

Ok so I heard on TalkSport that the deal is done, Bologna are stalling so that they can secure a loan using the deal as security.

There's so much being printed about this deal that I'm not going to believe until he's at SMS holding a shirt up in front of the media.
Ok so I heard on TalkSport that the deal is done, Bologna are stalling so that they can secure a loan using the deal as security. There's so much being printed about this deal that I'm not going to believe until he's at SMS holding a shirt up in front of the media. Stroppy_gramps

2:24pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Confucious wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
WobblyCat wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.
Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.
What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.
I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.
Oooooooooo, that sucks!

No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant!
What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"?
..... and the really good news for those of us yet to be so lucky is indicated in the last line .........

'So when you hear it thunder, don't run under a tree.
There's a penis from heaven for you and for me.

My tattoo's going to read, 'Bienvenue à Strasbourg, j'espère que vous apprécierez le vin, le fromage, le pain et le service diabolique.'

Can't wait!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WobblyCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: For all those saying just pay the cash and get on with it, well maybe we can't? The family bankrolled our promotion and converted 30m debt to equity. They may have said to NC he can spend the income from the Prem but there will be no more cash from them. That income comes in during the course of the season and not as a big chunk. It maybe we simply don't have the cash to pay up front and can only pay as and when we receive Prem money ourselves. We also have to allow enough cash-flow for the other players we are after who won't be cheap either.[/p][/quote]Wise words Seed. Regardless of what we'd like, we MUST first make sure it's affordable. I like playing with money and I like watching it grow and yet my missus would be quite happy to blow ten grand every week. I made all three affordable by having a tattoo of a £10,000 note put on my willy.[/p][/quote]What an amazing coincidence I have a tattoo of a £100,000 note on mine! The only diffence being I am considerableeee richa than yow and have a much larger pen!s.[/p][/quote]I have a tatoo of portsmouths creditors on mine.[/p][/quote]Oooooooooo, that sucks! No, no, no ....... wait a minute, that's not quite what I meant![/p][/quote]What did that guy have in the wonderful Dennis Potter drama "Penis from Heaven"?[/p][/quote]..... and the really good news for those of us yet to be so lucky is indicated in the last line ......... 'So when you hear it thunder, don't run under a tree. There's a penis from heaven for you and for me. My tattoo's going to read, 'Bienvenue à Strasbourg, j'espère que vous apprécierez le vin, le fromage, le pain et le service diabolique.' Can't wait! Strasbourg Saint

2:27pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SkySports: "Portsmouth manager Michael Appleton remains in the market for new signings and hopes to bring in at least three players before the weekend's game against Carlisle United."

D4mn, that's the Phillips, Ince and Ramirez deals scuppered then!
SkySports: "Portsmouth manager Michael Appleton remains in the market for new signings and hopes to bring in at least three players before the weekend's game against Carlisle United." D4mn, that's the Phillips, Ince and Ramirez deals scuppered then! Strasbourg Saint

2:34pm Wed 22 Aug 12

dixonbox says...

Sky Sports: "The agent of Gaston Ramirez claims transfer talks with Southampton have broken down and that it is unlikely his client will now be heading for England.

It would, however, appear as though they have been unable to complete a notable capture, with financial troubles at Bologna posing a problem.

Ramirez's representative says the Saints have now turned their attention elsewhere after failing to reach an agreement.

Oscar Betancourt has also sought to distance the 21-year-old from reports suggesting Tottenham or Liverpool could step in."
Sky Sports: "The agent of Gaston Ramirez claims transfer talks with Southampton have broken down and that it is unlikely his client will now be heading for England. It would, however, appear as though they have been unable to complete a notable capture, with financial troubles at Bologna posing a problem. Ramirez's representative says the Saints have now turned their attention elsewhere after failing to reach an agreement. Oscar Betancourt has also sought to distance the 21-year-old from reports suggesting Tottenham or Liverpool could step in." dixonbox

2:35pm Wed 22 Aug 12

only1chopper says...

Well surprise surprise, the deal has collapsed!
Well surprise surprise, the deal has collapsed! only1chopper

2:36pm Wed 22 Aug 12

shirley-bill says...

this was not down to us , its was down to BOLOGNA .
this was not down to us , its was down to BOLOGNA . shirley-bill

2:41pm Wed 22 Aug 12

insane saint says...

money grabbers stand in the way off a good deal for the player....
money grabbers stand in the way off a good deal for the player.... insane saint

2:43pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintPC says...

Fair play to Cortese, you cant be held to ransom, and you also cant hang around for Bologna to secure finances just in case they are unable to.

They know the deal structure, if they want to accept then they can!

Ball's in their court
Fair play to Cortese, you cant be held to ransom, and you also cant hang around for Bologna to secure finances just in case they are unable to. They know the deal structure, if they want to accept then they can! Ball's in their court SaintPC

2:45pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed?
I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed? Rising_Son

2:47pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

Cue the skates showing up...

I'm not entirely gutted that this is gone go out and get Phillips and 2 strong centre backs and that will be a decent transfer window
Cue the skates showing up... I'm not entirely gutted that this is gone go out and get Phillips and 2 strong centre backs and that will be a decent transfer window SO50 Saint

2:48pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

Who's this defender that Newcastle and Fulham are after for £4.5m? 'Oscar something'? Any good?

Him and Philips for just over £10m?
Who's this defender that Newcastle and Fulham are after for £4.5m? 'Oscar something'? Any good? Him and Philips for just over £10m? Dino-Saw-Us

2:53pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Severntrent says...

FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
up saints wrote:
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players.

It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.
adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?
[quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k[/p][/quote]We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players. It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.[/p][/quote]adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'? Severntrent

2:56pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Severntrent says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. COYR
Are you advocating buying your way to success with a dead mans money? disgusting cheats!!! you should be thoroughly ashamed you are a disgrace to the game
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. COYR[/p][/quote]Are you advocating buying your way to success with a dead mans money? disgusting cheats!!! you should be thoroughly ashamed you are a disgrace to the game Severntrent

2:57pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Tongdii says...

Another benefit I see if we sign Ramirez is that he will attract other quality playes to join us as time goes on.
Another benefit I see if we sign Ramirez is that he will attract other quality playes to join us as time goes on. Tongdii

3:16pm Wed 22 Aug 12

SaintPC says...

Rising_Son wrote:
I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed?
They do need money, but they need cash rather than payment plans. Is we have offered 3m upfront with further payments staggered over the 4 year contract then you can see that doesnt get them over their current issue.

They have been trying to take out a bank loan, using the payment plan from Saints as collateral against that loan.

So that way they get 12m upfront from the bank, with saints only paying as per the payment plan.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed?[/p][/quote]They do need money, but they need cash rather than payment plans. Is we have offered 3m upfront with further payments staggered over the 4 year contract then you can see that doesnt get them over their current issue. They have been trying to take out a bank loan, using the payment plan from Saints as collateral against that loan. So that way they get 12m upfront from the bank, with saints only paying as per the payment plan. SaintPC

3:21pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Rising_Son says...

SaintPC wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed?
They do need money, but they need cash rather than payment plans. Is we have offered 3m upfront with further payments staggered over the 4 year contract then you can see that doesnt get them over their current issue.

They have been trying to take out a bank loan, using the payment plan from Saints as collateral against that loan.

So that way they get 12m upfront from the bank, with saints only paying as per the payment plan.
Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]SaintPC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure I quite understand. Bologna need money, so they turn down the best offer in order to get nothing? Any business geniuses out there, who can enlighten me to the logic of this. Seed?[/p][/quote]They do need money, but they need cash rather than payment plans. Is we have offered 3m upfront with further payments staggered over the 4 year contract then you can see that doesnt get them over their current issue. They have been trying to take out a bank loan, using the payment plan from Saints as collateral against that loan. So that way they get 12m upfront from the bank, with saints only paying as per the payment plan.[/p][/quote]Thanks. Rising_Son

3:38pm Wed 22 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Severntrent wrote:
RedArmy1 wrote:
We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY. COYR
Are you advocating buying your way to success with a dead mans money? disgusting cheats!!! you should be thoroughly ashamed you are a disgrace to the game
Now, now Billy don't get yourself in a state worrying about us, you have enough problems of your own just concentate on them instead, we will be OK, I promise, but it is nice that you care, lots of our posters simply do not realise that you are really a decent guy who is not getting the message across in the right way, thanks for trying but you needn't bother.
[quote][p][bold]Severntrent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: We NEED a signing of this quality to be able to unlock teams in the PREMIER LEAGUE. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY. COYR[/p][/quote]Are you advocating buying your way to success with a dead mans money? disgusting cheats!!! you should be thoroughly ashamed you are a disgrace to the game[/p][/quote]Now, now Billy don't get yourself in a state worrying about us, you have enough problems of your own just concentate on them instead, we will be OK, I promise, but it is nice that you care, lots of our posters simply do not realise that you are really a decent guy who is not getting the message across in the right way, thanks for trying but you needn't bother. OSPREYSAINT

3:46pm Wed 22 Aug 12

FreeNelsonMantle says...

Severntrent wrote:
FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
up saints wrote:
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players.

It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.
adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?
Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!?

Skunt
[quote][p][bold]Severntrent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k[/p][/quote]We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players. It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.[/p][/quote]adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?[/p][/quote]Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!? Skunt FreeNelsonMantle

5:57pm Wed 22 Aug 12

Ricardo Rocha - Face Squasher says...

FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
Severntrent wrote:
FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
up saints wrote:
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players.

It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.
adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?
Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!?

Skunt
Wages at 93% of turover last season, £33m of debt had to be wiped out by your owners....
Can you really afford it hmmmm.........
[quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Severntrent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k[/p][/quote]We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players. It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.[/p][/quote]adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?[/p][/quote]Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!? Skunt[/p][/quote]Wages at 93% of turover last season, £33m of debt had to be wiped out by your owners.... Can you really afford it hmmmm......... Ricardo Rocha - Face Squasher

7:26pm Wed 22 Aug 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Ricardo Rocha - Face Squasher wrote:
FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
Severntrent wrote:
FreeNelsonMantle wrote:
up saints wrote:
if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k
We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players.

It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.
adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?
Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!?

Skunt
Wages at 93% of turover last season, £33m of debt had to be wiped out by your owners....
Can you really afford it hmmmm.........
Can who, afford what exactly? You are rambling.
[quote][p][bold]Ricardo Rocha - Face Squasher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Severntrent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FreeNelsonMantle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: if wages are 60k -70k a week forget it don;t want to end up the pompey way.lambert i think is max payed 30k[/p][/quote]We are one of the top 10 richest clubs. We NEED to offer these wages going forward to compete for these players. It's great how Saints have been but we will not be able to survive without adapting.[/p][/quote]adapting? don't you mean 'cheating'?[/p][/quote]Its "cheating" if you buy players you can't afford..... KANU!? Skunt[/p][/quote]Wages at 93% of turover last season, £33m of debt had to be wiped out by your owners.... Can you really afford it hmmmm.........[/p][/quote]Can who, afford what exactly? You are rambling. OSPREYSAINT

9:47am Thu 23 Aug 12

Hobson82 says...

I hear we have turned our attentions to Jasper Gayliens from Nantes, does anyone know anything about this guy. He's not even on Wikipedia.
I hear we have turned our attentions to Jasper Gayliens from Nantes, does anyone know anything about this guy. He's not even on Wikipedia. Hobson82

11:58am Thu 23 Aug 12

Flashin the pan says...

Why waist good money on one striker, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 60k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever.
You could beat Wigan on saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a simular scenario to your season.
Why waist good money on one striker, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 60k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever. You could beat Wigan on saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a simular scenario to your season. Flashin the pan

12:04pm Thu 23 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever.
You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.”

Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth?
Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever. You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.” Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth? SO50 Saint

12:17pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Flashin the pan says...

Maybe you should take note your supporters could learn a little...Pompey minus a ten point duction and still facing the prospect of liquidation can still command a respectful home crowd of nearly 18000 and great following support to away games. Saint's fans may turn out in numbers if the their team's game is not televised.
Maybe you should take note your supporters could learn a little...Pompey minus a ten point duction and still facing the prospect of liquidation can still command a respectful home crowd of nearly 18000 and great following support to away games. Saint's fans may turn out in numbers if the their team's game is not televised. Flashin the pan

12:24pm Thu 23 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

Saint's fans may turn out in numbers if the their team's game is not televised.”

I don't understand this bit you are talking gibberish again. BTW was the away end full at Colchester didnt look like it from the highlights on sky sports thats the whole stand like we took on both occasions
Saint's fans may turn out in numbers if the their team's game is not televised.” I don't understand this bit you are talking gibberish again. BTW was the away end full at Colchester didnt look like it from the highlights on sky sports thats the whole stand like we took on both occasions SO50 Saint

12:34pm Thu 23 Aug 12

Flashin the pan says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever. You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.” Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth?
Only 3 mistakes then? Southampton schools i went to didn't do me any favours for sure. Too much visiting derby rd maybe? Still here in the Philippines it's less of a problem...99% speak English the weather's great and beer's cheap and the girls are just... beautifullllllllllll
ll.
Pompey 2-0
Saints 1-2
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever. You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.” Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth?[/p][/quote]Only 3 mistakes then? Southampton schools i went to didn't do me any favours for sure. Too much visiting derby rd maybe? Still here in the Philippines it's less of a problem...99% speak English the weather's great and beer's cheap and the girls are just... beautifullllllllllll ll. Pompey 2-0 Saints 1-2 Flashin the pan

12:49pm Thu 23 Aug 12

SO50 Saint says...

That's a nice little insight into your social life Flashin, cheers for that
That's a nice little insight into your social life Flashin, cheers for that SO50 Saint

2:38pm Thu 23 Aug 12

saintkenny says...

redsnapper wrote:
Those QPR signings look a good move, why arent we in there? especially Carvaliho...

One huge plus of being in the Prem is very few midweek matches, less injuries
more recovery time so cant wait till Saturday..Hope Fox redeems himself.
simple qpr is paying well above the wage structure **** the owner is paying.we will not do this ,and go over budget .cortesse and adkins have quoted this s few times
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Those QPR signings look a good move, why arent we in there? especially Carvaliho... One huge plus of being in the Prem is very few midweek matches, less injuries more recovery time so cant wait till Saturday..Hope Fox redeems himself.[/p][/quote]simple qpr is paying well above the wage structure **** the owner is paying.we will not do this ,and go over budget .cortesse and adkins have quoted this s few times saintkenny

6:00pm Fri 24 Aug 12

warrens 76 says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever.
You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.”

Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth?
Clearly they do not..
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Why WASTE good money on one WINGER, facing relegation by the end of the season and one of your players being paid 70k a week for 2/3 years stuck in the Championship... won't look to clever. You could beat Wigan on Saturday as they will be probably another side stuck in the relegation zone for most of their games...could be a SIMILAR scenario to your season.” Just updating your spelling do they not have schools down Portsmouth?[/p][/quote]Clearly they do not.. warrens 76

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