Saints boss Adkins defends triple change against United

Daily Echo: Nigel Adkins Nigel Adkins

Nigel Adkins revealed why he chose to take off three of Saints’ most effective players towards the end of their 3-2 defeat against Manchester United.

The manager withdrew Jason Puncheon , Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana in the final 15 minutes of yesterday’s contest, with the hosts leading 2-1.

All three players had caused United a host of problems throughout the match, but were replaced by new signing Emmanuel Mayuka , Guly do Prado and Jay Rodriguez , before Sir Alex Ferguson’s men snatched all the points with two late goals.

While there was some surprise at Adkins’ changes, the Saints boss insisted the side needed an extra injection of energy for the final push.

“We wanted to be positive in what we were doing,” he said. “I made three forward changes to get three fresh legs in there.”

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8:54am Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was.
Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was. OSPREYSAINT
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8:57am Mon 3 Sep 12

Forest Saint says...

Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously
Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously Forest Saint
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9:05am Mon 3 Sep 12

Alicesdad says...

You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you.

I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency.

I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position.

Onward.
You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you. I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency. I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position. Onward. Alicesdad
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9:19am Mon 3 Sep 12

Block 34 says...

I a big fan of Nigel, but on this occasion sadly he got it wrong.
Thought Puncheon had a great game, nice to see. Fox & Fonte too slow again, but on the plus side Nigel had the team playing well & we were so close...!!
Our season starts with the Villa game - any points ahead of that are a bonus.
I a big fan of Nigel, but on this occasion sadly he got it wrong. Thought Puncheon had a great game, nice to see. Fox & Fonte too slow again, but on the plus side Nigel had the team playing well & we were so close...!! Our season starts with the Villa game - any points ahead of that are a bonus. Block 34
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9:22am Mon 3 Sep 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

As I said elsewhere Lambert was absolutely dead on his feet, he was unable to get off the ground. To have left him on would have been madness. Unfortunately the new lad didn't win a single challenge and we needed him to hold the ball up. But the main reason we lost was Paul Scholes.
As I said elsewhere Lambert was absolutely dead on his feet, he was unable to get off the ground. To have left him on would have been madness. Unfortunately the new lad didn't win a single challenge and we needed him to hold the ball up. But the main reason we lost was Paul Scholes. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:46am Mon 3 Sep 12

Swissowned says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously
Speak for yourself, not for everybody else. By that I mean say "I" not "we."

I know there are people who would be happy to see Redknapp back considering what he's achieved at other clubs.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, I am in full support of
NA and I'm not saying I want him replaced with HR.
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously[/p][/quote]Speak for yourself, not for everybody else. By that I mean say "I" not "we." I know there are people who would be happy to see Redknapp back considering what he's achieved at other clubs. And before anyone jumps down my throat, I am in full support of NA and I'm not saying I want him replaced with HR. Swissowned
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9:53am Mon 3 Sep 12

redduke says...

Alicesdad wrote:
You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you.

I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency.

I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position.

Onward.
Wrong!!
We were doing fine at 2-1, looking as likely to score a third as they were to equalise. Taking off 3 of our best 4 players (Schneiderlin was the other) was a total disaster and completely unneccessary. Last week we were 1-0 down and Adkins makes one late ineffectual change, this week we're winning and hands the initiative straight to MU. The only change needed was Ward-Prowse who was tiring, but as the bench was full of forwards and no Chaplow there were no viable options
Please can we have a left back as well.
Sort it out Adkins before Cortese does it for you!!!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you. I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency. I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position. Onward.[/p][/quote]Wrong!! We were doing fine at 2-1, looking as likely to score a third as they were to equalise. Taking off 3 of our best 4 players (Schneiderlin was the other) was a total disaster and completely unneccessary. Last week we were 1-0 down and Adkins makes one late ineffectual change, this week we're winning and hands the initiative straight to MU. The only change needed was Ward-Prowse who was tiring, but as the bench was full of forwards and no Chaplow there were no viable options Please can we have a left back as well. Sort it out Adkins before Cortese does it for you!!! redduke
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9:55am Mon 3 Sep 12

willygetaway says...

I loves ya Nigel, but that was a bad bad call
I loves ya Nigel, but that was a bad bad call willygetaway
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9:56am Mon 3 Sep 12

Court Jester Crew says...

I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor.
I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor. Court Jester Crew
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9:59am Mon 3 Sep 12

wiltshiresaint says...

It was a complete gamble to make those changes and unfortunately NA lost. As redduke says, Ward-Prowse was tiring although he had played really well.
It was a complete gamble to make those changes and unfortunately NA lost. As redduke says, Ward-Prowse was tiring although he had played really well. wiltshiresaint
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10:08am Mon 3 Sep 12

JohnItaly says...

Bringing on substitutions in a losing position (i.e. Man City / Wigan) one has nothing to lose but everything to gain so in a way it is much less of a gamble than when in a winning position when one has everything to lose. These latter calls are much more difficult to make. Get it wrong - as it appeared NA did yesterday - and you are bound to get criticised and rightly so. NA is paid handsomely to get things right not wrong.
Bringing on substitutions in a losing position (i.e. Man City / Wigan) one has nothing to lose but everything to gain so in a way it is much less of a gamble than when in a winning position when one has everything to lose. These latter calls are much more difficult to make. Get it wrong - as it appeared NA did yesterday - and you are bound to get criticised and rightly so. NA is paid handsomely to get things right not wrong. JohnItaly
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10:08am Mon 3 Sep 12

Redrobbo says...

Two goals resulted from players being unmarked and getting headers in on goal. More positives than negatives.
We have a 17 year old who can hold his own in the Premiership, Spiderman looks as I always expected to be a Premiership pleyer, Pucheon had his best game in a Saints shirt and we have Ramirez(one of the top ten young footballers on the planet to some) and an international centre half to some in .Hindsight gives us all 20/20 vision, if our defending had been better then no one would have mentioned the substitutions. I personally would have sacrificed an attacker and brought on Richardson to follow Scholes everywhere.We let him dictate the pace of the game. Yesterday was not the problem, the problem was losing at home to Wigan.If we finish a point behind Liverpool(which is where we are now) then I would take that now.
Two goals resulted from players being unmarked and getting headers in on goal. More positives than negatives. We have a 17 year old who can hold his own in the Premiership, Spiderman looks as I always expected to be a Premiership pleyer, Pucheon had his best game in a Saints shirt and we have Ramirez(one of the top ten young footballers on the planet to some) and an international centre half to some in .Hindsight gives us all 20/20 vision, if our defending had been better then no one would have mentioned the substitutions. I personally would have sacrificed an attacker and brought on Richardson to follow Scholes everywhere.We let him dictate the pace of the game. Yesterday was not the problem, the problem was losing at home to Wigan.If we finish a point behind Liverpool(which is where we are now) then I would take that now. Redrobbo
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10:11am Mon 3 Sep 12

Kingsland Gaz says...

Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR
Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR Kingsland Gaz
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10:15am Mon 3 Sep 12

saintsupnorth says...

We dont know the full extent regarding fitness levels etc, as far as we know they looked ok but NA knows more than the Fans. And to be Honest it could have been anyone of the bench and people will say it was wrong. A striker like RVP who is in Form, is the reason we lost plain and simple.
We dont know the full extent regarding fitness levels etc, as far as we know they looked ok but NA knows more than the Fans. And to be Honest it could have been anyone of the bench and people will say it was wrong. A striker like RVP who is in Form, is the reason we lost plain and simple. saintsupnorth
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10:15am Mon 3 Sep 12

Dino-Saw-Us says...

Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?
Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties? Dino-Saw-Us
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10:29am Mon 3 Sep 12

saintsupnorth says...

Dino-Saw-Us wrote:
Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?
To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals.
[quote][p][bold]Dino-Saw-Us[/bold] wrote: Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?[/p][/quote]To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals. saintsupnorth
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10:38am Mon 3 Sep 12

AaronLeeSaint says...

Alicesdad wrote:
You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you.

I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency.

I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position.

Onward.
Here here! Couldn't put it better myself.

We outplayed United for good stretches of the game and yes the game required that we injected fresh pace, at the end of the day it was a lesson in playing to the final whistle.

We've had a tough opening, but shown that we can play as well as the big boys, so we push on and learn!

COYR!!
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you. I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency. I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position. Onward.[/p][/quote]Here here! Couldn't put it better myself. We outplayed United for good stretches of the game and yes the game required that we injected fresh pace, at the end of the day it was a lesson in playing to the final whistle. We've had a tough opening, but shown that we can play as well as the big boys, so we push on and learn! COYR!! AaronLeeSaint
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10:39am Mon 3 Sep 12

SO50 Saint says...

It wasn't so much the Subs but who was brought on for who like as been said about Lambert was tiring bring on Jay-Rod for him similar type of player and could have carried on doing what Lambo was doing. Also Mayuka should have played out wide as this is where we could get at United through pace. Everyone knows about the defence and I just hope Shaw and the Japanese bloke are good enough to step in as they will be needed soon in my opinion. There was also a blatant foul on Lallana right in front of the Northam on the edge of the area which was a definite free kick not given and had Lambos ball to JWP got thru it could so easily of been 3-1. I think yesterday just goes to show the importance of having a world class striker and money to spend on him. What annoys me though is had we of played that well last week we would already have had 3 points on the board and saying how good the start has been.
It wasn't so much the Subs but who was brought on for who like as been said about Lambert was tiring bring on Jay-Rod for him similar type of player and could have carried on doing what Lambo was doing. Also Mayuka should have played out wide as this is where we could get at United through pace. Everyone knows about the defence and I just hope Shaw and the Japanese bloke are good enough to step in as they will be needed soon in my opinion. There was also a blatant foul on Lallana right in front of the Northam on the edge of the area which was a definite free kick not given and had Lambos ball to JWP got thru it could so easily of been 3-1. I think yesterday just goes to show the importance of having a world class striker and money to spend on him. What annoys me though is had we of played that well last week we would already have had 3 points on the board and saying how good the start has been. SO50 Saint
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10:40am Mon 3 Sep 12

Matt Le God says...

Appreciate the need to sub players for injection but I didnt see any injection!!

I too am a massive NA fan, but think he got this slightly wrong - could help thinking Chaplow on the right would have been a better option than Guly or even put Guly up front to hold the ball (or at least win it) and stick Mayakubu down the wing.

However - play like that first 80 mins every game and we will fly up the league, no worries
Appreciate the need to sub players for injection but I didnt see any injection!! I too am a massive NA fan, but think he got this slightly wrong - could help thinking Chaplow on the right would have been a better option than Guly or even put Guly up front to hold the ball (or at least win it) and stick Mayakubu down the wing. However - play like that first 80 mins every game and we will fly up the league, no worries Matt Le God
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10:47am Mon 3 Sep 12

up saints says...

well i think it was 3 points chucked away but i can;t say that on here. to many gods think this site is for praise only and not criticism
well i think it was 3 points chucked away but i can;t say that on here. to many gods think this site is for praise only and not criticism up saints
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10:47am Mon 3 Sep 12

Golden_Salamander says...

I've got no problem with taking those 3 off, they were "dead on their feet", and were completely burnt out. The problem came that "we as a team" could not hold the ball up and take the pressure off the defence in the last 10 mins. It was all one way traffic and manure knew that, hence rio was allowed to go up front unmarked.
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My concerns for this season are :-
1) "certain well known fans" causing problems behind the scenes AGAIN.
2) certain THICK fans who demand a "scapegoat" for everything. It was raining yesterday therefore the weather must be Guly's problem.
3) The Anti-Don mob who are pushing Arry's name in the media. Think about it would he work with Reed as DoF ?, would he be signing 21-24 year olds or 32-35 year olds ?, would he be playing Ward-P in the team ? or spending £15M on the training ground ?. There is NO chance of Arry working with "the Don" therefore this rumour should be DISMISSED by everyone NOW.
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Having said that I would still like us to bring in a "DEFENSIVE COACH", we already have a GK coach and a number of other backroom staff - fitness, computers etc. But I think we are defending as INDIVIDUALs (and therefore any mistake by an individual is highlighted) and alot more work could be done to get us to DEFEND AS A UNIT, i.e. if one player makes a mistake a second is covering, we do not BLOCK runs of opposition players, we do NOT hold their shirts to stop them jumping like THEY DO with Rickie etc. At the moment we seem to defend on an individual basis and hope we win 90% of the one-on-one battle, in the lower leagues we can get away with that in that the opposition then have to score lots from the other 10%, but we are in the PL now and players like van-p will score from only a small number of chances.
Rant over.
I've got no problem with taking those 3 off, they were "dead on their feet", and were completely burnt out. The problem came that "we as a team" could not hold the ball up and take the pressure off the defence in the last 10 mins. It was all one way traffic and manure knew that, hence rio was allowed to go up front unmarked. . My concerns for this season are :- 1) "certain well known fans" causing problems behind the scenes AGAIN. 2) certain THICK fans who demand a "scapegoat" for everything. It was raining yesterday therefore the weather must be Guly's problem. 3) The Anti-Don mob who are pushing Arry's name in the media. Think about it would he work with Reed as DoF ?, would he be signing 21-24 year olds or 32-35 year olds ?, would he be playing Ward-P in the team ? or spending £15M on the training ground ?. There is NO chance of Arry working with "the Don" therefore this rumour should be DISMISSED by everyone NOW. . Having said that I would still like us to bring in a "DEFENSIVE COACH", we already have a GK coach and a number of other backroom staff - fitness, computers etc. But I think we are defending as INDIVIDUALs (and therefore any mistake by an individual is highlighted) and alot more work could be done to get us to DEFEND AS A UNIT, i.e. if one player makes a mistake a second is covering, we do not BLOCK runs of opposition players, we do NOT hold their shirts to stop them jumping like THEY DO with Rickie etc. At the moment we seem to defend on an individual basis and hope we win 90% of the one-on-one battle, in the lower leagues we can get away with that in that the opposition then have to score lots from the other 10%, but we are in the PL now and players like van-p will score from only a small number of chances. Rant over. Golden_Salamander
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10:54am Mon 3 Sep 12

SO50 Saint says...

If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though
If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though SO50 Saint
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11:09am Mon 3 Sep 12

Walter K says...

It wasn't broke, so it didn't need fixing! Saints weren't tiring, they were in the ascendency and looked like scoring a third - until the substitutions started! David Moyes was big enough on Saturday night to say he got it wrong and his substitutions cost Everton the game - take a leaf out Nigel!
The Italian revolution is already underway - Del Piero coming in then Di Canio for Adkins.
It wasn't broke, so it didn't need fixing! Saints weren't tiring, they were in the ascendency and looked like scoring a third - until the substitutions started! David Moyes was big enough on Saturday night to say he got it wrong and his substitutions cost Everton the game - take a leaf out Nigel! The Italian revolution is already underway - Del Piero coming in then Di Canio for Adkins. Walter K
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11:18am Mon 3 Sep 12

Sainty saint saint says...

Court Jester Crew wrote:
I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor.
Exactly. Chaplow could have done a job on Scholes, getting in his face and terrorising him, but for some reason NA didn't even have him on the bench. I don't really understand that.
[quote][p][bold]Court Jester Crew[/bold] wrote: I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor.[/p][/quote]Exactly. Chaplow could have done a job on Scholes, getting in his face and terrorising him, but for some reason NA didn't even have him on the bench. I don't really understand that. Sainty saint saint
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11:22am Mon 3 Sep 12

shaunparsons says...

Taking the 3 up front off was a mistake. Rickie would have gone back with Rio for the corner and defended accodingly.
Easy to defend from the front. the lads that came on just lost the ball and it went straight back putting our back 4 under pressure. An error but a bigger ERROR would be allowing Harry back.

NC please take note. if you are going to make a change don't include Harry in our plans.
Taking the 3 up front off was a mistake. Rickie would have gone back with Rio for the corner and defended accodingly. Easy to defend from the front. the lads that came on just lost the ball and it went straight back putting our back 4 under pressure. An error but a bigger ERROR would be allowing Harry back. NC please take note. if you are going to make a change don't include Harry in our plans. shaunparsons
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11:30am Mon 3 Sep 12

up saints says...

Walter K wrote:
It wasn't broke, so it didn't need fixing! Saints weren't tiring, they were in the ascendency and looked like scoring a third - until the substitutions started! David Moyes was big enough on Saturday night to say he got it wrong and his substitutions cost Everton the game - take a leaf out Nigel!
The Italian revolution is already underway - Del Piero coming in then Di Canio for Adkins.
well put i think some people were watching a different game
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: It wasn't broke, so it didn't need fixing! Saints weren't tiring, they were in the ascendency and looked like scoring a third - until the substitutions started! David Moyes was big enough on Saturday night to say he got it wrong and his substitutions cost Everton the game - take a leaf out Nigel! The Italian revolution is already underway - Del Piero coming in then Di Canio for Adkins.[/p][/quote]well put i think some people were watching a different game up saints
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12:03pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saint. says...

The substitutions were not wrong! Being positive is the way to move forward in this league, not one game, and certainly not being scared to go for the third goal! Added to this if Mayuka came on and scored which you can not from the bench, it could of been oh so different in a second and many would of been signing NA praises! Its a team game for the season, and this will serve us for the REST of the season!

Simply Mayuka or Rod did not score, and what NA allowed to happen, was Saints in the closing stages started to defend deeper, and deeper and as a result invited the fear of united to come onto us and score as most would expect them too! NA has to get this part sorted out, as we deserved all three points yesterday against a team many thought was going to hammer us!

Well done NA!! You had our team match if not at times show manure how to play! If we were not newly promoted, on that proformance many would be saying so! Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points, and what a classy free flowing football team you lot are!

Be proud Saints fans. Our football is awesome already in this league, and I am positive, no very positive NA will march this Red Army up the league with some magical displays of attacking football!!
The substitutions were not wrong! Being positive is the way to move forward in this league, not one game, and certainly not being scared to go for the third goal! Added to this if Mayuka came on and scored which you can not from the bench, it could of been oh so different in a second and many would of been signing NA praises! Its a team game for the season, and this will serve us for the REST of the season! Simply Mayuka or Rod did not score, and what NA allowed to happen, was Saints in the closing stages started to defend deeper, and deeper and as a result invited the fear of united to come onto us and score as most would expect them too! NA has to get this part sorted out, as we deserved all three points yesterday against a team many thought was going to hammer us! Well done NA!! You had our team match if not at times show manure how to play! If we were not newly promoted, on that proformance many would be saying so! Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points, and what a classy free flowing football team you lot are! Be proud Saints fans. Our football is awesome already in this league, and I am positive, no very positive NA will march this Red Army up the league with some magical displays of attacking football!! Saint.
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12:17pm Mon 3 Sep 12

NC Fan4Life says...

Nigel Adkins - hopefully you learn from your mistakes quickly and that the new players prove to be assets.
You make substitutions when you are loosing, not winning, unless in last couple of minutes to see time out.
Saturdays changes were unnecessary, they were not that tired and could & should have lasted another 15 minutes. Not only that but by replacing the two midfield players that were causing them most problems (Lalana & Puncheon) with two players of less energy and defensive capabilities plus a shorter striker who didn't win anything in the air, was like shooting yourself in the foot.
The addage 'if it ain't broke...'
The changes against Wigan were more understandable because we were loosing, however you also changed the system that seemed to be working apart from some poor finishing, by taking the advanced central midfield player out and retaining two deeper midfield players leaving a void in which Martinez saw this and immediately took one of his forwards off for a midfielder to fill the hole we vacated with the consequence that we could not get possession, you failed to see that and did not change it back.
The final disappointment is that whilst it is good to see all the forward players that have signed only one RB and only one CB you may not settle in. Another CB and a LB is urgently required asap. We have conceeded 8 goals in 3 games - You should always build from the back not the front.
Hope you read this and we can move on and pick some points up quickly.
Come on you Red & White stripped Saints !!
I will be up at Arsenal with more advice !!!
Nigel Adkins - hopefully you learn from your mistakes quickly and that the new players prove to be assets. You make substitutions when you are loosing, not winning, unless in last couple of minutes to see time out. Saturdays changes were unnecessary, they were not that tired and could & should have lasted another 15 minutes. Not only that but by replacing the two midfield players that were causing them most problems (Lalana & Puncheon) with two players of less energy and defensive capabilities plus a shorter striker who didn't win anything in the air, was like shooting yourself in the foot. The addage 'if it ain't broke...' The changes against Wigan were more understandable because we were loosing, however you also changed the system that seemed to be working apart from some poor finishing, by taking the advanced central midfield player out and retaining two deeper midfield players leaving a void in which Martinez saw this and immediately took one of his forwards off for a midfielder to fill the hole we vacated with the consequence that we could not get possession, you failed to see that and did not change it back. The final disappointment is that whilst it is good to see all the forward players that have signed only one RB and only one CB you may not settle in. Another CB and a LB is urgently required asap. We have conceeded 8 goals in 3 games - You should always build from the back not the front. Hope you read this and we can move on and pick some points up quickly. Come on you Red & White stripped Saints !! I will be up at Arsenal with more advice !!! NC Fan4Life
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12:20pm Mon 3 Sep 12

El Santo says...

Well, I guess NA needs to learn how to work in the PL, just like the rest of the team. I still think he is the best and am quite confident that we will do really well this year. We looked good against Mansh1tt1 and Manure... let's start now collecting points as well!
Well, I guess NA needs to learn how to work in the PL, just like the rest of the team. I still think he is the best and am quite confident that we will do really well this year. We looked good against Mansh1tt1 and Manure... let's start now collecting points as well! El Santo
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12:22pm Mon 3 Sep 12

seventh-junction says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though
That!
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though[/p][/quote]That! seventh-junction
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12:22pm Mon 3 Sep 12

seventh-junction says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though
That!
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If the 'Twitch' returns my Season Ticket goes back. I really can't see it happening though[/p][/quote]That! seventh-junction
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12:25pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Walter K says...

....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points"

What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.
....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points" What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points. Walter K
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12:25pm Mon 3 Sep 12

fiddleswithponies says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was.
Yawn. **** sucker. Your b%m hole must be peppered in splinters. The most *** comment I've ever read. **** off ****.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was.[/p][/quote]Yawn. **** sucker. Your b%m hole must be peppered in splinters. The most *** comment I've ever read. **** off ****. fiddleswithponies
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12:26pm Mon 3 Sep 12

HarrytheHorse33 says...

Lets keep things in perspective. I don't think any of us Saints fans were expecting anything other than a difficult start when the fixture list was released. Apart from the Wigan game which I think we might have all slightly underestimated given their form at the end of last season, I don't think we need to make any early knee-jerk changes at all. I really hope Nigel Adkins is given all the time he needs to build and develope the squad he now has into a solid, established premier league team. I would think NC will continue to back him 100% too, but we all know this is a results driven business, but talk of making changes soon are surely wide of the mark. A couple of defenders on a free transfer/Bosman and I think we will have another good season. COYR
Lets keep things in perspective. I don't think any of us Saints fans were expecting anything other than a difficult start when the fixture list was released. Apart from the Wigan game which I think we might have all slightly underestimated given their form at the end of last season, I don't think we need to make any early knee-jerk changes at all. I really hope Nigel Adkins is given all the time he needs to build and develope the squad he now has into a solid, established premier league team. I would think NC will continue to back him 100% too, but we all know this is a results driven business, but talk of making changes soon are surely wide of the mark. A couple of defenders on a free transfer/Bosman and I think we will have another good season. COYR HarrytheHorse33
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12:34pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Bungy53 says...

Alicesdad wrote:
You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you.

I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency.

I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position.

Onward.
I agree Alicesdad and others who like me thought all 3 of the subbed players looked absolutely knackered. I too, am a fan of Chaplow and agree that he chases and harries the opposition and he would probably have done so when Scholes came on and changed the game in MU's favour. However, Chaplow isn't on the bench for the same reason that Harding,Hammond are no longer in the squad. NA sees the players day in day out. If he chooses the starting 11 and the subs, it's for a reason.
Yesterday, we got undone by the 2nd best team in the Premiership, who are notorious for gaining those extra minutes and decisions from the ref who seemed happy to let play go on with two footed,studs up tackles on our players yet gave free-kicks and allowed numerous foul throws on the Kingsland side of the pitch.
Saints played well without the benefit of our new signings ffs, we are on a steep learning curve and it would have been unrealistic to expect repeats of the past few seasons.
We are weak at the back, no doubt NA is well aware of the fact also. Things will get better, have belief and keep behind the club. No I'm not suggesting blind faith, but we are all ust arm-chair managers, even those who attend the games. I'd be surprised if all of the negative posters so far were at SMS. Just as I was surprised to be sat next to a MU supporter and his 6yr old son. How the hell did he get a ticket in block 30 of the Kingsland when last years season ticket holders couldn't retain or acquire the seats next to mine.
The smug barsteward left before the final whistle.

Results will improve people, things could be a whole lot worse, we have only one direction we can go now and we have started without a minus score. A couple of good results and the picture will change dramatically. COY Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: You make your decisions and you stand by them. Well done Nigel I salute you. I don't think the subs were the reason we lost, it was mix of bad luck and the simple fact that United are never dead until the whistle blows. Everyone knows this,and they require total concentration. We still lack concentration at the back and i'm hoping the new signing will help stop that tendency. I appreciate we have lost three games but te future is undoubtedly bright. With the new players we will start winning very soon and we wont be in the bottom seven after early October. Every neutral I have spoken to has been impressed by our peformance against City and United and appreciate that we are most certainly going places. The players themselves will sense this and will know they do not deserve the current league position. Onward.[/p][/quote]I agree Alicesdad and others who like me thought all 3 of the subbed players looked absolutely knackered. I too, am a fan of Chaplow and agree that he chases and harries the opposition and he would probably have done so when Scholes came on and changed the game in MU's favour. However, Chaplow isn't on the bench for the same reason that Harding,Hammond are no longer in the squad. NA sees the players day in day out. If he chooses the starting 11 and the subs, it's for a reason. Yesterday, we got undone by the 2nd best team in the Premiership, who are notorious for gaining those extra minutes and decisions from the ref who seemed happy to let play go on with two footed,studs up tackles on our players yet gave free-kicks and allowed numerous foul throws on the Kingsland side of the pitch. Saints played well without the benefit of our new signings ffs, we are on a steep learning curve and it would have been unrealistic to expect repeats of the past few seasons. We are weak at the back, no doubt NA is well aware of the fact also. Things will get better, have belief and keep behind the club. No I'm not suggesting blind faith, but we are all ust arm-chair managers, even those who attend the games. I'd be surprised if all of the negative posters so far were at SMS. Just as I was surprised to be sat next to a MU supporter and his 6yr old son. How the hell did he get a ticket in block 30 of the Kingsland when last years season ticket holders couldn't retain or acquire the seats next to mine. The smug barsteward left before the final whistle. Results will improve people, things could be a whole lot worse, we have only one direction we can go now and we have started without a minus score. A couple of good results and the picture will change dramatically. COY Saints. Bungy53
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12:38pm Mon 3 Sep 12

BracknellSaint says...

Forest Saint wrote:
Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously
Totally agree on the Harry front.
Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday.
Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all..
Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse...
And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet..
[quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously[/p][/quote]Totally agree on the Harry front. Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday. Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all.. Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse... And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet.. BracknellSaint
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12:42pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saint. says...

Walter K wrote:
....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points"

What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.
Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played.

Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep!

As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window?
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: ....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points" What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.[/p][/quote]Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played. Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep! As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window? Saint.
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12:43pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saint. says...

Walter K wrote:
....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points"

What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.
Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played.

Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep!

As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window?
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: ....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points" What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.[/p][/quote]Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played. Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep! As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window? Saint.
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12:45pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saint. says...

Walter K wrote:
....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points"

What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.
Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played.

Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep!

As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window?
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: ....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points" What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.[/p][/quote]Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played. Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep! As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window? Saint.
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12:51pm Mon 3 Sep 12

worried of n e hampshire says...

Court Jester Crew wrote:
I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor.
scholes had the worst pass completion % of utd's midfield although he made two telling passes he wasn't the difference.
we did look the most likely to score next until the subs were made.
I love our Nige and want him to stay but I agree with an earlier poster I don't want the rubber faced twitcher back.
the pen stemed from Kelvin's awfull distribution.
Anyway 2 weeks now for the new boys to bed in so look out Gooners were coming for you!
[quote][p][bold]Court Jester Crew[/bold] wrote: I'm glad someone else noticed that the game turned on the introduction od Paul Scholes. Why Saints did not close him down was beyond me he was allowed all the room to operate and pull the strings. We left gaps that at this level were severly punished. There were positives that was plain to see but at times our defending was very very poor.[/p][/quote]scholes had the worst pass completion % of utd's midfield although he made two telling passes he wasn't the difference. we did look the most likely to score next until the subs were made. I love our Nige and want him to stay but I agree with an earlier poster I don't want the rubber faced twitcher back. the pen stemed from Kelvin's awfull distribution. Anyway 2 weeks now for the new boys to bed in so look out Gooners were coming for you! worried of n e hampshire
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12:54pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Walter K says...

I think you need to calm down on the Submit button.....days like yesterday, Wigan and a number of performances / decisions from last season remind me that Nigel is a physio. He will be proven to be out of his depth at this level along with a number of players that he's chosen to retain. I just hope NC doesn't give him too long. Some of you may say too harsh, but it's an incredibly unforgiving league and all of his "we must take the positives" rhetoric will run out of steam pretty quickly!
I think you need to calm down on the Submit button.....days like yesterday, Wigan and a number of performances / decisions from last season remind me that Nigel is a physio. He will be proven to be out of his depth at this level along with a number of players that he's chosen to retain. I just hope NC doesn't give him too long. Some of you may say too harsh, but it's an incredibly unforgiving league and all of his "we must take the positives" rhetoric will run out of steam pretty quickly! Walter K
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12:56pm Mon 3 Sep 12

billythesaint says...

Take off Fonte, put on Seaborne? Job done. He can't concentrate for 90 minutes. I've had enough of Fonte. I'm selling my season ticket if Adkins plays him instead of Yoshida. 8 goals conceded in 3 games and about 6 of those have been his fault.
Take off Fonte, put on Seaborne? Job done. He can't concentrate for 90 minutes. I've had enough of Fonte. I'm selling my season ticket if Adkins plays him instead of Yoshida. 8 goals conceded in 3 games and about 6 of those have been his fault. billythesaint
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12:57pm Mon 3 Sep 12

worthing_saint says...

The biggest mistake was not having Chaplow on the bench. Ward Prowse should have come off, not Puncheon. W-P had a fantastic game but he was knackered, and by switching him with Chaplow we could have has someone to keep up the energy in the middle.

It was correct to sub Lambert as he was knackered too.

Also, Schneiderlin should be captain as he totally bossed the game.

All in all, i was gutted at the result, but thought we were the better side for 80 minutes which bodes well for the season.

Anyway, just my opinions :)
The biggest mistake was not having Chaplow on the bench. Ward Prowse should have come off, not Puncheon. W-P had a fantastic game but he was knackered, and by switching him with Chaplow we could have has someone to keep up the energy in the middle. It was correct to sub Lambert as he was knackered too. Also, Schneiderlin should be captain as he totally bossed the game. All in all, i was gutted at the result, but thought we were the better side for 80 minutes which bodes well for the season. Anyway, just my opinions :) worthing_saint
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1:07pm Mon 3 Sep 12

St Forlife says...

New on this site but certainly not new to the boys in red and (a very tiny bit of) white. Just felt I'd have my few pennies worth here.

For me everything is still looking really positive. I am seeing the best football since the mid '80s and in some respects it's better. Going forward I am like many at a loss with the sheer number of attacking options we have. It's great to see such strength in that dept and is brilliant as long as every member of that dept is happy - keeping them all happy is the challenge.

Midfield is getting better and better. For me Spider, AWP and Davies were fantastic yesterday with Lallana keeping them all buizzing with his endless efforts and attention he gets from opponents. Spider was my MoM.

Ramirez is being brought in clearly to fill the left side of a 5 man midfield (call it 433 or 451 or whatever you like). If Puncheon continues like yesterday it will be fantastic having cover for one another and a battle for the starting position there too.

Yes the back is where we must take steps. I won't single anyone out but each position needs competition. We all know where we need some extra strength and at least CB has a new addition to join the fray shortly. Clearly NA feels LS is going to be good enough at left back - and why should we doubt him with the other youngsters all doing us proud. DF needs to step up a bit. I am a fan of his - his assists in the last 18 months or so have helped feed the front boys and he deserves his spot but in some games we will need extra cover there of course - and quick.

Now for the subs. In my humble opinion NA got it horribly wrong yesterday. I fully understand his reasons but for me Lallana was not tired. Nor was Ricky who does look in good fitness for a big lad. No - pulling him off and a 'straight replacement' for Gully might have made sense. But putting Guly on the right and getting him pulled back into a defensive role was a disaster. I am sure that was not intentional but with the new lad on alone up front and the 'zone' that the other midfielders were in interupted it meant for a horrible last 15 minutes.

Sometimes you should just leave those things as they were. With AL and RL still on the pitch I am sure we would have not got dragged so deep.

But hey ho - I know there will be no easy games - none whatsoever. But IF we can work on that defence - we are goinbg to be supporting one of the most exciting teams in the prem this year - I have no doubt at all.
New on this site but certainly not new to the boys in red and (a very tiny bit of) white. Just felt I'd have my few pennies worth here. For me everything is still looking really positive. I am seeing the best football since the mid '80s and in some respects it's better. Going forward I am like many at a loss with the sheer number of attacking options we have. It's great to see such strength in that dept and is brilliant as long as every member of that dept is happy - keeping them all happy is the challenge. Midfield is getting better and better. For me Spider, AWP and Davies were fantastic yesterday with Lallana keeping them all buizzing with his endless efforts and attention he gets from opponents. Spider was my MoM. Ramirez is being brought in clearly to fill the left side of a 5 man midfield (call it 433 or 451 or whatever you like). If Puncheon continues like yesterday it will be fantastic having cover for one another and a battle for the starting position there too. Yes the back is where we must take steps. I won't single anyone out but each position needs competition. We all know where we need some extra strength and at least CB has a new addition to join the fray shortly. Clearly NA feels LS is going to be good enough at left back - and why should we doubt him with the other youngsters all doing us proud. DF needs to step up a bit. I am a fan of his - his assists in the last 18 months or so have helped feed the front boys and he deserves his spot but in some games we will need extra cover there of course - and quick. Now for the subs. In my humble opinion NA got it horribly wrong yesterday. I fully understand his reasons but for me Lallana was not tired. Nor was Ricky who does look in good fitness for a big lad. No - pulling him off and a 'straight replacement' for Gully might have made sense. But putting Guly on the right and getting him pulled back into a defensive role was a disaster. I am sure that was not intentional but with the new lad on alone up front and the 'zone' that the other midfielders were in interupted it meant for a horrible last 15 minutes. Sometimes you should just leave those things as they were. With AL and RL still on the pitch I am sure we would have not got dragged so deep. But hey ho - I know there will be no easy games - none whatsoever. But IF we can work on that defence - we are goinbg to be supporting one of the most exciting teams in the prem this year - I have no doubt at all. St Forlife
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1:15pm Mon 3 Sep 12

2Morrow says...

We lost against : the most decorated manager in the history of the game , the team with the most premier league wins , last seasons golden boot winner and one of the greatest midfielders seen in the premier league.

By one goal having looked every bit their equal.

What a crisis.I hope we sack nigel right now after 3 games in which we only expected to get 1 win anyway. Im glad we have all these well qualified people on this forum that have years of experience in the game that can offer adkins advice. In HIndsight maybe we would have won if lambert et al stayed on. Maybe not. One thing thats sure is noone knows. In his tiredness Lambert gets sent off for a desperate lunge and misses the villa game? Extreme yes but hopefully some of the moaners can see that anything could of happened
All I know for sure is Im **** proud of our boys for that performance and the noise the fans made , loudest ive heard st marys for years

What i can say is how embaressing it is to see so many fans leave the game early.
We lost against : the most decorated manager in the history of the game , the team with the most premier league wins , last seasons golden boot winner and one of the greatest midfielders seen in the premier league. By one goal having looked every bit their equal. What a crisis.I hope we sack nigel right now after 3 games in which we only expected to get 1 win anyway. Im glad we have all these well qualified people on this forum that have years of experience in the game that can offer adkins advice. In HIndsight maybe we would have won if lambert et al stayed on. Maybe not. One thing thats sure is noone knows. In his tiredness Lambert gets sent off for a desperate lunge and misses the villa game? Extreme yes but hopefully some of the moaners can see that anything could of happened All I know for sure is Im **** proud of our boys for that performance and the noise the fans made , loudest ive heard st marys for years What i can say is how embaressing it is to see so many fans leave the game early. 2Morrow
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1:21pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Costa Baz says...

For all his positivity, I can't help think NA put 4 attack minded players on the bench because he thought we'd be chasing the game at the end and not defending a lead.

Last season, with just 5 subs allowed, NA always found space for someone that could help shore up the midfield, such as Hammond, Chaplow or Cork, to protect leads.

I agree with those that say Chaplow would have been a good option for the bench. His energy not only galvanises the team, it also galvanises the fans, and he would have roughed up Scholes a little.

Learning curve for NA and the team, but we aren't far from being a good team at this level.
For all his positivity, I can't help think NA put 4 attack minded players on the bench because he thought we'd be chasing the game at the end and not defending a lead. Last season, with just 5 subs allowed, NA always found space for someone that could help shore up the midfield, such as Hammond, Chaplow or Cork, to protect leads. I agree with those that say Chaplow would have been a good option for the bench. His energy not only galvanises the team, it also galvanises the fans, and he would have roughed up Scholes a little. Learning curve for NA and the team, but we aren't far from being a good team at this level. Costa Baz
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1:23pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saint. says...

Saint. wrote:
Walter K wrote:
....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points"

What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.
Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played.

Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep!

As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window?
Forgot to mention.

All NA critics could not do a better job if they were in NA shoes? Attack is the best form of defence in this league and soon we will be winning more than losing! But this is the best bit. The subs did not make us weaker! If NA kept the three players on, he took eventually did take off, that had put us in a wining position. Then we still lost as we were defending deeper and deeper. NA would of been slatted for lack of ambition!
[quote][p][bold]Saint.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: ....."Many non Saints fans have text me on their own individual backs, saying things as we were cheated out of three points" What a load of tosh - we weren't cheated, the manager got it horribly wrong in the final 15 minutes against the best team in the Country at playing until the death and it cost 3 points.[/p][/quote]Calm down. Just quoted a few non Saints perspective on the game they watched on live tv. May be Saints fans are too close, and it is interesting to see what others thought. Plus that was not the only thought shown on how well we played. Personally I don't think NA got it wrong, and history shows this. We needed the 3rd goal, and if we got it you would be talking so different, and that's football. What we did wrong as Mayuka and Rod did not make us weaker, is we defended deeper and deeper for the result, and this resulted in inviting them onto our goal. Davis also started to do some silly stuff under the pressure we invited on ourselves at the back, and when four minutes came up, well you could see what was going to happen because we were so deep! As for defence, I believe Jos and Fonte will get better, as they are class, and we now have Yoshida and Shaw to come! But it would of been nice to have a quality defender in the market time, but then who would of moan if we paid over the odds to make that happen in the a window?[/p][/quote]Forgot to mention. All NA critics could not do a better job if they were in NA shoes? Attack is the best form of defence in this league and soon we will be winning more than losing! But this is the best bit. The subs did not make us weaker! If NA kept the three players on, he took eventually did take off, that had put us in a wining position. Then we still lost as we were defending deeper and deeper. NA would of been slatted for lack of ambition! Saint.
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1:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Flashin the pan says...

BracknellSaint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously
Totally agree on the Harry front. Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday. Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all.. Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse... And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet..
Get arry back he will help spend the chairman's money in no time.
Adkin's will lose his job by christmas..the writing is on the wall.

You heard it here first!
[quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously[/p][/quote]Totally agree on the Harry front. Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday. Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all.. Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse... And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet..[/p][/quote]Get arry back he will help spend the chairman's money in no time. Adkin's will lose his job by christmas..the writing is on the wall. You heard it here first! Flashin the pan
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1:41pm Mon 3 Sep 12

devonsaint2 says...

Walterk
Are you really a Saints fan ?
What is your experience of running a premier league club ?
None..as all of us.
So NA was a physio and a footballer
Wenger wasn.t even a football player.
Complete rubbish by you and I know you will be proved wrong.
NA was an ex physio in League 1 & ..the Championship. Such short memories so called fans have. Thank goodness there so few like you
Walterk Are you really a Saints fan ? What is your experience of running a premier league club ? None..as all of us. So NA was a physio and a footballer Wenger wasn.t even a football player. Complete rubbish by you and I know you will be proved wrong. NA was an ex physio in League 1 & ..the Championship. Such short memories so called fans have. Thank goodness there so few like you devonsaint2
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1:42pm Mon 3 Sep 12

SO50 Saint says...

Your second line may well be true there Flashin only time will tell. Anyway question for you I fell asleep whilst watching the Football League Show the other night before they got to league 1. How did you get on over the weekend what was the attendance and how did the team who's contracts I believe are all set to expire in the next couple of weeks get on?
Your second line may well be true there Flashin only time will tell. Anyway question for you I fell asleep whilst watching the Football League Show the other night before they got to league 1. How did you get on over the weekend what was the attendance and how did the team who's contracts I believe are all set to expire in the next couple of weeks get on? SO50 Saint
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1:43pm Mon 3 Sep 12

up saints says...

first of all i don't think NA is doing a bad job.but anyone who can justified the three subs when you needed someone like de riidder chaplow or t lee to chase block and hold the ball is beyond me.
first of all i don't think NA is doing a bad job.but anyone who can justified the three subs when you needed someone like de riidder chaplow or t lee to chase block and hold the ball is beyond me. up saints
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1:47pm Mon 3 Sep 12

redduke says...

I'd liked to have seen the look of relief on Ferdinand's face when Rickie went down the tunnel. As Walter K said, Adkins got it horribly wrong and it cost us at least a point, maybe all three. Sorry but none of them looked 'out on their feet' to me, apart from Ward-Prowse.
Seven subs to select and no midfielders! Crazy
I'd liked to have seen the look of relief on Ferdinand's face when Rickie went down the tunnel. As Walter K said, Adkins got it horribly wrong and it cost us at least a point, maybe all three. Sorry but none of them looked 'out on their feet' to me, apart from Ward-Prowse. Seven subs to select and no midfielders! Crazy redduke
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1:50pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Redrobbo says...

What is it with football these days.To even be talking about the possibility of Nigel losing his job is ridiculous, it should not even be on the agenda. league tables should not be published until after at least 6 games, they are probably fairly pointless before 10 games.I think the poster who said about a defensive coach is spot on, goals against Man City and Man United were all bad goals, although I will forgive Clyne yesterday because of his slip. Anothe rpoint about Fox playing very narrow, Harding did the same which makes me think this is part of the tactics. Our right back plays far woder than our left back, so we are always vunerable to a diagonal ball from the opponents left to their right wing.Maybe the idea if for the left midfielder to drop back to the left back position, but when that doesn't happen we are exposed.
What is it with football these days.To even be talking about the possibility of Nigel losing his job is ridiculous, it should not even be on the agenda. league tables should not be published until after at least 6 games, they are probably fairly pointless before 10 games.I think the poster who said about a defensive coach is spot on, goals against Man City and Man United were all bad goals, although I will forgive Clyne yesterday because of his slip. Anothe rpoint about Fox playing very narrow, Harding did the same which makes me think this is part of the tactics. Our right back plays far woder than our left back, so we are always vunerable to a diagonal ball from the opponents left to their right wing.Maybe the idea if for the left midfielder to drop back to the left back position, but when that doesn't happen we are exposed. Redrobbo
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1:52pm Mon 3 Sep 12

saintsupnorth says...

Dont people think its time to move on from this game?, lets start looking forward to the Arsenal game, what's your thoughts people.
Dont people think its time to move on from this game?, lets start looking forward to the Arsenal game, what's your thoughts people. saintsupnorth
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2:05pm Mon 3 Sep 12

SO50 Saint says...

Flashin you've gone quiet I asked if you could tell us about how your football club got on over the weekend?

Looking forward to Arsenal a new ground to go to aswell, will be another tough game but if we play like we did yesterday I see no reason why we can't come away with a positive result
Flashin you've gone quiet I asked if you could tell us about how your football club got on over the weekend? Looking forward to Arsenal a new ground to go to aswell, will be another tough game but if we play like we did yesterday I see no reason why we can't come away with a positive result SO50 Saint
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2:05pm Mon 3 Sep 12

up saints says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
Dont people think its time to move on from this game?, lets start looking forward to the Arsenal game, what's your thoughts people.
good point but you can;t move on from every game only 35 left
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: Dont people think its time to move on from this game?, lets start looking forward to the Arsenal game, what's your thoughts people.[/p][/quote]good point but you can;t move on from every game only 35 left up saints
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2:11pm Mon 3 Sep 12

murfmeister says...

Agree with Rickie change for Rodriguez but should have brought on seabourne to shackle Van Persie/Scholes and protect lead with 5-10 mins to go. That's what Fergie would have done and every other manager in the league, except Nigel. Must be #positive!!
Throw the new lad on! Brilliant!!
He had a debut to forget, similar to Ali Dia's from yesteryear? #georgeweahsnephew
Lee was a better option too.
Don't get me started on Guly! He was still half cut I reckon

Thoughts?
Agree with Rickie change for Rodriguez but should have brought on seabourne to shackle Van Persie/Scholes and protect lead with 5-10 mins to go. That's what Fergie would have done and every other manager in the league, except Nigel. Must be #positive!! Throw the new lad on! Brilliant!! He had a debut to forget, similar to Ali Dia's from yesteryear? #georgeweahsnephew Lee was a better option too. Don't get me started on Guly! He was still half cut I reckon Thoughts? murfmeister
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2:14pm Mon 3 Sep 12

squirrel1302 says...

Personally, I think in any other game the subs would have worked and benefited us. I think that Lallana and Puncheon were creating the spark the team needed. Lambert had a brilliant game and worked extremely well with Adz and Punch but to be fair to Nigel, he needed to come off, he looked absolutely shattered!!

Let's hope we can be the first newly promoted side to lose the first 3 and survive!!! COYR!!!!!
Personally, I think in any other game the subs would have worked and benefited us. I think that Lallana and Puncheon were creating the spark the team needed. Lambert had a brilliant game and worked extremely well with Adz and Punch but to be fair to Nigel, he needed to come off, he looked absolutely shattered!! Let's hope we can be the first newly promoted side to lose the first 3 and survive!!! COYR!!!!! squirrel1302
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2:29pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Walter K says...

devonsaint2 wrote:
Walterk Are you really a Saints fan ? What is your experience of running a premier league club ? None..as all of us. So NA was a physio and a footballer Wenger wasn.t even a football player. Complete rubbish by you and I know you will be proved wrong. NA was an ex physio in League 1 & ..the Championship. Such short memories so called fans have. Thank goodness there so few like you
Of course I'm a Saints fan you plum, but I'm also a non sentimental realist. NA reached his max level last term, he won't cut it in the PL - those of you who think he'll still be here at Xmas are deluded.
[quote][p][bold]devonsaint2[/bold] wrote: Walterk Are you really a Saints fan ? What is your experience of running a premier league club ? None..as all of us. So NA was a physio and a footballer Wenger wasn.t even a football player. Complete rubbish by you and I know you will be proved wrong. NA was an ex physio in League 1 & ..the Championship. Such short memories so called fans have. Thank goodness there so few like you[/p][/quote]Of course I'm a Saints fan you plum, but I'm also a non sentimental realist. NA reached his max level last term, he won't cut it in the PL - those of you who think he'll still be here at Xmas are deluded. Walter K
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2:48pm Mon 3 Sep 12

The Libertine says...

I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible.
I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible. The Libertine
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2:49pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Bungy53 says...

2Morrow wrote:
We lost against : the most decorated manager in the history of the game , the team with the most premier league wins , last seasons golden boot winner and one of the greatest midfielders seen in the premier league.

By one goal having looked every bit their equal.

What a crisis.I hope we sack nigel right now after 3 games in which we only expected to get 1 win anyway. Im glad we have all these well qualified people on this forum that have years of experience in the game that can offer adkins advice. In HIndsight maybe we would have won if lambert et al stayed on. Maybe not. One thing thats sure is noone knows. In his tiredness Lambert gets sent off for a desperate lunge and misses the villa game? Extreme yes but hopefully some of the moaners can see that anything could of happened
All I know for sure is Im **** proud of our boys for that performance and the noise the fans made , loudest ive heard st marys for years

What i can say is how embaressing it is to see so many fans leave the game early.
Well said 2morrow, pretty much echoing my views earlier. MU did get 2 free headers and the luck of the rebound for Persies 2nd.
However, it has to be said of KD, twice in yesterdays game he made in rugby terms what would have been called a "hospital pass", which just makes life easier for any opposition,let alone MU.
One of the most positive aspects of Saints team performance yesterday was that of JP. As others have said, he had an outstanding game, so here's hoping from some consistancy on his part.
I'm not one of the Guly bashers, but it has to be said, that yesterday when he came on, he did not make any impact at all. No doubt he knows that, and that he is also aware with JP's performance his own position with the new arrivals is far from a formality when the team sheet is made out.
As for fans leaving early, I can undertand that that happens occasionally when the team has had a crap game. It's done out of frustration, but yesterday the team played very well and they deserved our support to the very end.
I was as dissappointed as anyone with the result because I do think we were robbed of the result we derserved,still lets hope everyone learns such experiences.

Walter K and his kind only ever moan, I've never read a positive comment from him or her. Sure, they are entitled to express their opinion however ill informed it might be. As I've just posted, we are all just arm-chair managers and frankley none of us really have a scooby what we're talking about when it comes to football tactics---it's a funny old game innit.
[quote][p][bold]2Morrow[/bold] wrote: We lost against : the most decorated manager in the history of the game , the team with the most premier league wins , last seasons golden boot winner and one of the greatest midfielders seen in the premier league. By one goal having looked every bit their equal. What a crisis.I hope we sack nigel right now after 3 games in which we only expected to get 1 win anyway. Im glad we have all these well qualified people on this forum that have years of experience in the game that can offer adkins advice. In HIndsight maybe we would have won if lambert et al stayed on. Maybe not. One thing thats sure is noone knows. In his tiredness Lambert gets sent off for a desperate lunge and misses the villa game? Extreme yes but hopefully some of the moaners can see that anything could of happened All I know for sure is Im **** proud of our boys for that performance and the noise the fans made , loudest ive heard st marys for years What i can say is how embaressing it is to see so many fans leave the game early.[/p][/quote]Well said 2morrow, pretty much echoing my views earlier. MU did get 2 free headers and the luck of the rebound for Persies 2nd. However, it has to be said of KD, twice in yesterdays game he made in rugby terms what would have been called a "hospital pass", which just makes life easier for any opposition,let alone MU. One of the most positive aspects of Saints team performance yesterday was that of JP. As others have said, he had an outstanding game, so here's hoping from some consistancy on his part. I'm not one of the Guly bashers, but it has to be said, that yesterday when he came on, he did not make any impact at all. No doubt he knows that, and that he is also aware with JP's performance his own position with the new arrivals is far from a formality when the team sheet is made out. As for fans leaving early, I can undertand that that happens occasionally when the team has had a crap game. It's done out of frustration, but yesterday the team played very well and they deserved our support to the very end. I was as dissappointed as anyone with the result because I do think we were robbed of the result we derserved,still lets hope everyone learns such experiences. Walter K and his kind only ever moan, I've never read a positive comment from him or her. Sure, they are entitled to express their opinion however ill informed it might be. As I've just posted, we are all just arm-chair managers and frankley none of us really have a scooby what we're talking about when it comes to football tactics---it's a funny old game innit. Bungy53
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2:57pm Mon 3 Sep 12

SO50 Saint says...

I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible.”

Yes let's go back to those bad old days when we would just chuck money at anyone Davenport Bernard etc. I would like Adkins to get the time he deserves but if we have 3 or less points after the Fulham game next month I think during the international break he will probably be gone
I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible.” Yes let's go back to those bad old days when we would just chuck money at anyone Davenport Bernard etc. I would like Adkins to get the time he deserves but if we have 3 or less points after the Fulham game next month I think during the international break he will probably be gone SO50 Saint
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3:01pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saintjock says...

St Forlife wrote:
New on this site but certainly not new to the boys in red and (a very tiny bit of) white. Just felt I'd have my few pennies worth here. For me everything is still looking really positive. I am seeing the best football since the mid '80s and in some respects it's better. Going forward I am like many at a loss with the sheer number of attacking options we have. It's great to see such strength in that dept and is brilliant as long as every member of that dept is happy - keeping them all happy is the challenge. Midfield is getting better and better. For me Spider, AWP and Davies were fantastic yesterday with Lallana keeping them all buizzing with his endless efforts and attention he gets from opponents. Spider was my MoM. Ramirez is being brought in clearly to fill the left side of a 5 man midfield (call it 433 or 451 or whatever you like). If Puncheon continues like yesterday it will be fantastic having cover for one another and a battle for the starting position there too. Yes the back is where we must take steps. I won't single anyone out but each position needs competition. We all know where we need some extra strength and at least CB has a new addition to join the fray shortly. Clearly NA feels LS is going to be good enough at left back - and why should we doubt him with the other youngsters all doing us proud. DF needs to step up a bit. I am a fan of his - his assists in the last 18 months or so have helped feed the front boys and he deserves his spot but in some games we will need extra cover there of course - and quick. Now for the subs. In my humble opinion NA got it horribly wrong yesterday. I fully understand his reasons but for me Lallana was not tired. Nor was Ricky who does look in good fitness for a big lad. No - pulling him off and a 'straight replacement' for Gully might have made sense. But putting Guly on the right and getting him pulled back into a defensive role was a disaster. I am sure that was not intentional but with the new lad on alone up front and the 'zone' that the other midfielders were in interupted it meant for a horrible last 15 minutes. Sometimes you should just leave those things as they were. With AL and RL still on the pitch I am sure we would have not got dragged so deep. But hey ho - I know there will be no easy games - none whatsoever. But IF we can work on that defence - we are goinbg to be supporting one of the most exciting teams in the prem this year - I have no doubt at all.
Good first post. But for those who doubt that NA had to make changes, Lambert really was completely spent and Lallana - normally a model of buzz and energy - had slowed to walking pace at times. It was plain for all who were there that Lambert had gone even before he broke offside when what should have been a one on one on the keeper and 3-1 turned into a weak cross and start of a Man Utd attack. Both Rickie and Adam were absolutely immense but had to come off - do you really think NA would have done that for any other reason?
Ironically (given his fantastic work rate yesterday and his lack of it previously) Puncheon still looked OK so was surprised at that one - but he may have signalled to NA that he was spent, who knows?
[quote][p][bold]St Forlife[/bold] wrote: New on this site but certainly not new to the boys in red and (a very tiny bit of) white. Just felt I'd have my few pennies worth here. For me everything is still looking really positive. I am seeing the best football since the mid '80s and in some respects it's better. Going forward I am like many at a loss with the sheer number of attacking options we have. It's great to see such strength in that dept and is brilliant as long as every member of that dept is happy - keeping them all happy is the challenge. Midfield is getting better and better. For me Spider, AWP and Davies were fantastic yesterday with Lallana keeping them all buizzing with his endless efforts and attention he gets from opponents. Spider was my MoM. Ramirez is being brought in clearly to fill the left side of a 5 man midfield (call it 433 or 451 or whatever you like). If Puncheon continues like yesterday it will be fantastic having cover for one another and a battle for the starting position there too. Yes the back is where we must take steps. I won't single anyone out but each position needs competition. We all know where we need some extra strength and at least CB has a new addition to join the fray shortly. Clearly NA feels LS is going to be good enough at left back - and why should we doubt him with the other youngsters all doing us proud. DF needs to step up a bit. I am a fan of his - his assists in the last 18 months or so have helped feed the front boys and he deserves his spot but in some games we will need extra cover there of course - and quick. Now for the subs. In my humble opinion NA got it horribly wrong yesterday. I fully understand his reasons but for me Lallana was not tired. Nor was Ricky who does look in good fitness for a big lad. No - pulling him off and a 'straight replacement' for Gully might have made sense. But putting Guly on the right and getting him pulled back into a defensive role was a disaster. I am sure that was not intentional but with the new lad on alone up front and the 'zone' that the other midfielders were in interupted it meant for a horrible last 15 minutes. Sometimes you should just leave those things as they were. With AL and RL still on the pitch I am sure we would have not got dragged so deep. But hey ho - I know there will be no easy games - none whatsoever. But IF we can work on that defence - we are goinbg to be supporting one of the most exciting teams in the prem this year - I have no doubt at all.[/p][/quote]Good first post. But for those who doubt that NA had to make changes, Lambert really was completely spent and Lallana - normally a model of buzz and energy - had slowed to walking pace at times. It was plain for all who were there that Lambert had gone even before he broke offside when what should have been a one on one on the keeper and 3-1 turned into a weak cross and start of a Man Utd attack. Both Rickie and Adam were absolutely immense but had to come off - do you really think NA would have done that for any other reason? Ironically (given his fantastic work rate yesterday and his lack of it previously) Puncheon still looked OK so was surprised at that one - but he may have signalled to NA that he was spent, who knows? Saintjock
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3:05pm Mon 3 Sep 12

up saints says...

murfmeister wrote:
Agree with Rickie change for Rodriguez but should have brought on seabourne to shackle Van Persie/Scholes and protect lead with 5-10 mins to go. That's what Fergie would have done and every other manager in the league, except Nigel. Must be #positive!!
Throw the new lad on! Brilliant!!
He had a debut to forget, similar to Ali Dia's from yesteryear? #georgeweahsnephew
Lee was a better option too.
Don't get me started on Guly! He was still half cut I reckon

Thoughts?
don;t get me started on guly i had my rant yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]murfmeister[/bold] wrote: Agree with Rickie change for Rodriguez but should have brought on seabourne to shackle Van Persie/Scholes and protect lead with 5-10 mins to go. That's what Fergie would have done and every other manager in the league, except Nigel. Must be #positive!! Throw the new lad on! Brilliant!! He had a debut to forget, similar to Ali Dia's from yesteryear? #georgeweahsnephew Lee was a better option too. Don't get me started on Guly! He was still half cut I reckon Thoughts?[/p][/quote]don;t get me started on guly i had my rant yesterday. up saints
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3:11pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saintjock says...

Golden_Salamander wrote:
I've got no problem with taking those 3 off, they were "dead on their feet", and were completely burnt out. The problem came that "we as a team" could not hold the ball up and take the pressure off the defence in the last 10 mins. It was all one way traffic and manure knew that, hence rio was allowed to go up front unmarked. . My concerns for this season are :- 1) "certain well known fans" causing problems behind the scenes AGAIN. 2) certain THICK fans who demand a "scapegoat" for everything. It was raining yesterday therefore the weather must be Guly's problem. 3) The Anti-Don mob who are pushing Arry's name in the media. Think about it would he work with Reed as DoF ?, would he be signing 21-24 year olds or 32-35 year olds ?, would he be playing Ward-P in the team ? or spending £15M on the training ground ?. There is NO chance of Arry working with "the Don" therefore this rumour should be DISMISSED by everyone NOW. . Having said that I would still like us to bring in a "DEFENSIVE COACH", we already have a GK coach and a number of other backroom staff - fitness, computers etc. But I think we are defending as INDIVIDUALs (and therefore any mistake by an individual is highlighted) and alot more work could be done to get us to DEFEND AS A UNIT, i.e. if one player makes a mistake a second is covering, we do not BLOCK runs of opposition players, we do NOT hold their shirts to stop them jumping like THEY DO with Rickie etc. At the moment we seem to defend on an individual basis and hope we win 90% of the one-on-one battle, in the lower leagues we can get away with that in that the opposition then have to score lots from the other 10%, but we are in the PL now and players like van-p will score from only a small number of chances. Rant over.
Good post on all points, especially on the vacuous "blame Guly for everything" brigade. Just as well NA didn't listen to them last season when he started all the games in the first third of the season that saw us built those points that eventually saw us up!
[quote][p][bold]Golden_Salamander[/bold] wrote: I've got no problem with taking those 3 off, they were "dead on their feet", and were completely burnt out. The problem came that "we as a team" could not hold the ball up and take the pressure off the defence in the last 10 mins. It was all one way traffic and manure knew that, hence rio was allowed to go up front unmarked. . My concerns for this season are :- 1) "certain well known fans" causing problems behind the scenes AGAIN. 2) certain THICK fans who demand a "scapegoat" for everything. It was raining yesterday therefore the weather must be Guly's problem. 3) The Anti-Don mob who are pushing Arry's name in the media. Think about it would he work with Reed as DoF ?, would he be signing 21-24 year olds or 32-35 year olds ?, would he be playing Ward-P in the team ? or spending £15M on the training ground ?. There is NO chance of Arry working with "the Don" therefore this rumour should be DISMISSED by everyone NOW. . Having said that I would still like us to bring in a "DEFENSIVE COACH", we already have a GK coach and a number of other backroom staff - fitness, computers etc. But I think we are defending as INDIVIDUALs (and therefore any mistake by an individual is highlighted) and alot more work could be done to get us to DEFEND AS A UNIT, i.e. if one player makes a mistake a second is covering, we do not BLOCK runs of opposition players, we do NOT hold their shirts to stop them jumping like THEY DO with Rickie etc. At the moment we seem to defend on an individual basis and hope we win 90% of the one-on-one battle, in the lower leagues we can get away with that in that the opposition then have to score lots from the other 10%, but we are in the PL now and players like van-p will score from only a small number of chances. Rant over.[/p][/quote]Good post on all points, especially on the vacuous "blame Guly for everything" brigade. Just as well NA didn't listen to them last season when he started all the games in the first third of the season that saw us built those points that eventually saw us up! Saintjock
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3:37pm Mon 3 Sep 12

loosehead says...

Going for another striker?
he ( adkins ) was a goalie so surely he can see we need to bolster the defence can't he?
two goals scored so we can score yet three more against seems obvious where the problem is to me?
Going for another striker? he ( adkins ) was a goalie so surely he can see we need to bolster the defence can't he? two goals scored so we can score yet three more against seems obvious where the problem is to me? loosehead
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3:46pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Don-Irelando says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
Dino-Saw-Us wrote: Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?
To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals.
what game were you watching? Davis was good for us last year but it is no secret that we need a new GK who is a contender and genuine prem quality THIS season. In our first 3 games he has been beaten at his near post twice- once with tevez and once with Kone- maybe not saves but should have done better. then the one time he shouldn't go near post with RVP and he fluffs it. the ball even hit his standing leg and still went in!! two aweful clearances were ignored because he saved a rediculous penalty. I read today that Swansea are looking for a LB in the bosman market, saints should be doing the same as whatever they were planning on deadline day obviously didnt payoff.

one final point, everyone is thinking Ramriz is going to fix everything- not a chance the boy is excellent on his day but is very inconsistant and will take time to adapt.

Puncheon!! what a game- long may it continue. i hope Guly gets life!
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dino-Saw-Us[/bold] wrote: Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?[/p][/quote]To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals.[/p][/quote]what game were you watching? Davis was good for us last year but it is no secret that we need a new GK who is a contender and genuine prem quality THIS season. In our first 3 games he has been beaten at his near post twice- once with tevez and once with Kone- maybe not saves but should have done better. then the one time he shouldn't go near post with RVP and he fluffs it. the ball even hit his standing leg and still went in!! two aweful clearances were ignored because he saved a rediculous penalty. I read today that Swansea are looking for a LB in the bosman market, saints should be doing the same as whatever they were planning on deadline day obviously didnt payoff. one final point, everyone is thinking Ramriz is going to fix everything- not a chance the boy is excellent on his day but is very inconsistant and will take time to adapt. Puncheon!! what a game- long may it continue. i hope Guly gets life! Don-Irelando
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4:07pm Mon 3 Sep 12

SouthamptonLegend says...

I don't think taking off your 3 best players is very positive Nigel! Come on now!!

No one else's fault but yours for that defeat. Hold your hands up draw a line under it and win the next one!

If we lose 2 or 3 more games on the bounce I think it's curtains.

Tadinari Lee or Rodrigues?? I'd pick the international to come on and make an impact!!!! Jay Rod looks nowhere near 6/7 millions worth....
I don't think taking off your 3 best players is very positive Nigel! Come on now!! No one else's fault but yours for that defeat. Hold your hands up draw a line under it and win the next one! If we lose 2 or 3 more games on the bounce I think it's curtains. Tadinari Lee or Rodrigues?? I'd pick the international to come on and make an impact!!!! Jay Rod looks nowhere near 6/7 millions worth.... SouthamptonLegend
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4:19pm Mon 3 Sep 12

redsnapper says...

Not closing down Scholes was the biggest fackin mstake and like the previous post said, I would have liked to see Cheung on before any of those 3 subs.

Still we live and learn except KD !!!!!
Not closing down Scholes was the biggest fackin mstake and like the previous post said, I would have liked to see Cheung on before any of those 3 subs. Still we live and learn except KD !!!!! redsnapper
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4:19pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Don-Irelando says...

can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal.
can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal. Don-Irelando
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4:32pm Mon 3 Sep 12

ere-we-go says...

Sorry Nigel, this time around you cost us at least a point. Its all very well putting fresh legs on the pitch but unless they fit in straight away you're always going to be in trouble.

The only one who looked a bit tired was Lambert. Why on earth JR wasnt put up front is beyond me. A £7 million striker who has yet to play up front.

We've bought a lightening quick player in Mayuka who is thrown up front on his own instead. Surely he if anyone should have played out wide to run with it.

Instead we launch balls up to him in the desperate hope that he can do something with it.

And then there's Jason Punheon, full of running and having his best ever game in a saints shirt, taken off for Guly to come on and have a jog around and not press the ball at all.

It may be defensive errors that cost us, but that came from relentless pressue for the last 15 minutes where we couldn't take the pressue away from our half of the pitch.

Did we play well yes we did, do I feel gutted that we didn't take anything from this game, too right I do!
Sorry Nigel, this time around you cost us at least a point. Its all very well putting fresh legs on the pitch but unless they fit in straight away you're always going to be in trouble. The only one who looked a bit tired was Lambert. Why on earth JR wasnt put up front is beyond me. A £7 million striker who has yet to play up front. We've bought a lightening quick player in Mayuka who is thrown up front on his own instead. Surely he if anyone should have played out wide to run with it. Instead we launch balls up to him in the desperate hope that he can do something with it. And then there's Jason Punheon, full of running and having his best ever game in a saints shirt, taken off for Guly to come on and have a jog around and not press the ball at all. It may be defensive errors that cost us, but that came from relentless pressue for the last 15 minutes where we couldn't take the pressue away from our half of the pitch. Did we play well yes we did, do I feel gutted that we didn't take anything from this game, too right I do! ere-we-go
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4:48pm Mon 3 Sep 12

lowe hater, cornwall says...

saintsupnorth wrote:
Dino-Saw-Us wrote:
Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?
To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals.
Apart from his distribution it was shocking ! And as we were defending on our six yard line for the last fifteen minutes it's no wonder we conceded two late goals !! But I was proud to be a saints fan our performance deserved so much more
[quote][p][bold]saintsupnorth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dino-Saw-Us[/bold] wrote: Anyone else worried about Hoover giving away Penalties?[/p][/quote]To eager probably!!, Think the defence at the minute needs to calm down and start gaining some stability. Although we have a new Defender coming in who is top class, think he might be the one to bring order to the back. Davis was top class, dont think any goalie could have stopped them goals.[/p][/quote]Apart from his distribution it was shocking ! And as we were defending on our six yard line for the last fifteen minutes it's no wonder we conceded two late goals !! But I was proud to be a saints fan our performance deserved so much more lowe hater, cornwall
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5:38pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Velleity says...

up saints wrote:
well i think it was 3 points chucked away but i can;t say that on here. to many gods think this site is for praise only and not criticism
Up Saints, I think you'll find that the problem people have with you stems around your single-minded hatred of Guly.

Your posts yesterday explicitly stated that Guly was the only reason we lost.

That means that many people on here do take everything you say with a rather large pinch of salt. Constructive criticism is rather well received on here. Your vitriol is not.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: well i think it was 3 points chucked away but i can;t say that on here. to many gods think this site is for praise only and not criticism[/p][/quote]Up Saints, I think you'll find that the problem people have with you stems around your single-minded hatred of Guly. Your posts yesterday explicitly stated that Guly was the only reason we lost. That means that many people on here do take everything you say with a rather large pinch of salt. Constructive criticism is rather well received on here. Your vitriol is not. Velleity
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5:38pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Don-Irelando wrote:
can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal.
I guess it was the fact he was involved with the Pinnacle bid which delayed the Liebherr takeover.
[quote][p][bold]Don-Irelando[/bold] wrote: can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal.[/p][/quote]I guess it was the fact he was involved with the Pinnacle bid which delayed the Liebherr takeover. OSPREYSAINT
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5:43pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

billythesaint wrote:
Take off Fonte, put on Seaborne? Job done. He can't concentrate for 90 minutes. I've had enough of Fonte. I'm selling my season ticket if Adkins plays him instead of Yoshida. 8 goals conceded in 3 games and about 6 of those have been his fault.
Can you legally sell your Season Ticket, who to? At least it could fund entry to Nottarf Krap for the rest of the season!
[quote][p][bold]billythesaint[/bold] wrote: Take off Fonte, put on Seaborne? Job done. He can't concentrate for 90 minutes. I've had enough of Fonte. I'm selling my season ticket if Adkins plays him instead of Yoshida. 8 goals conceded in 3 games and about 6 of those have been his fault.[/p][/quote]Can you legally sell your Season Ticket, who to? At least it could fund entry to Nottarf Krap for the rest of the season! OSPREYSAINT
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5:45pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Flashin the pan wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
Forest Saint wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously
Totally agree on the Harry front. Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday. Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all.. Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse... And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet..
Get arry back he will help spend the chairman's money in no time.
Adkin's will lose his job by christmas..the writing is on the wall.

You heard it here first!
Heard it lots of times, but it ain't going to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Flashin the pan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BracknellSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Forest Saint[/bold] wrote: Very poor decision Nigel that cost us the match.........but we don't want Rednapp back at any cost after what happened previously[/p][/quote]Totally agree on the Harry front. Never want him anywhere near us again. Terrible when at Saints, and generally pretty overrated because the press boys love him. No thanks, I'll keep Adkins everyday. Not sure the subs cost us the game. I would say perhaps that we lost the impetus we had, as we were driving Manure back, and had their defence all over the place, which we lost without Ricky up there to bully them, but the simple fact is we gave away two free headers, which gave them two goals. Also, we gave Scholes so much room, we made him look good. I'm not sure it would have been the same if someone was over him like a rash, and making him hurry...we never closed him down at all.. Fox at LB..sorry, he's helped us get here, and he's been given a chance, but he plays too narrow-kept seeing the winger in yards of space, and couldn't see why, then noticed Fox stood on Jos' toes..Hope Shaw gets a chance now, as sure he'd do as well as Ward-Prowse... And at CB, Jose, as much as I love him, seems petrified at this level..rushed clearances, and generally I think the forwards could smell his fear... Yoshida will need to hit the floor running for us mind, so it's going to be a worry for a while yet..[/p][/quote]Get arry back he will help spend the chairman's money in no time. Adkin's will lose his job by christmas..the writing is on the wall. You heard it here first![/p][/quote]Heard it lots of times, but it ain't going to happen. OSPREYSAINT
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5:46pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

The Libertine wrote:
I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible.
Irony, Sarcasm you are having a laff, right?
[quote][p][bold]The Libertine[/bold] wrote: I know this seems harsh but Adkins has got to go. He has shown how woefully inept he is at this level. Get shot of him now and get Harry in as quick as possible.[/p][/quote]Irony, Sarcasm you are having a laff, right? OSPREYSAINT
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5:47pm Mon 3 Sep 12

warrens 76 says...

Apart from defence the best form of defence is attack....so ere we go is spot on with his assesment..

Guly i do not dislike, I just do not understand, he goes out to do whatever job the gaffer thinks he can do..poor lad because I have no idea what it is.

Davis fantastic servant, however in this league matches are one and lost by saves made in the blink of an eye..personally I just think he his like an outfield player who has lost 1/2 yard of pace..it is not a lot until the pressure is on then it shows..the top 6 goalies in our league would have stopped between 2 and 4 of the goals we have conceeded...think of the implications...
Apart from defence the best form of defence is attack....so ere we go is spot on with his assesment.. Guly i do not dislike, I just do not understand, he goes out to do whatever job the gaffer thinks he can do..poor lad because I have no idea what it is. Davis fantastic servant, however in this league matches are one and lost by saves made in the blink of an eye..personally I just think he his like an outfield player who has lost 1/2 yard of pace..it is not a lot until the pressure is on then it shows..the top 6 goalies in our league would have stopped between 2 and 4 of the goals we have conceeded...think of the implications... warrens 76
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6:15pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Norwegian Saint says...

Still waiting for "one hellllll of a beating" quotes.... won't be long if we continue playing like this.
All this season is about is being the 4th worst team in the league (at least)
We are better than QPR, Villa, Liverpool, Stoke, Norwich, West Ham, Sunderland.... I'm not worried.
COYRs!!!
Still waiting for "one hellllll of a beating" quotes.... won't be long if we continue playing like this. All this season is about is being the 4th worst team in the league (at least) We are better than QPR, Villa, Liverpool, Stoke, Norwich, West Ham, Sunderland.... I'm not worried. COYRs!!! Norwegian Saint
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7:22pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then? Fatty x Ford Worker
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7:31pm Mon 3 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

Consolation for the 3 who came off:-
First at the bar - and 1st to drive home?

ha ha ha ha ha
he he he he he!!!!!
Consolation for the 3 who came off:- First at the bar - and 1st to drive home? ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he!!!!! J.P.M
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8:09pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

J.P.M wrote:
Consolation for the 3 who came off:-
First at the bar - and 1st to drive home?

ha ha ha ha ha
he he he he he!!!!!
No live Cash betting at Nottarf on Saturday, could not afford to renew the Gaming Licence.
[quote][p][bold]J.P.M[/bold] wrote: Consolation for the 3 who came off:- First at the bar - and 1st to drive home? ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he!!!!![/p][/quote]No live Cash betting at Nottarf on Saturday, could not afford to renew the Gaming Licence. OSPREYSAINT
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8:37pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Harry Bong says...

To go and lose 3-2 to the both the top two teams in this country if not Europe, and be disapointed that we have not won shows how far this club has come in the last two years. We never expected to get anything from these games and we all need to reserve judgement on where this club is until we start playing the likes of Aston Villa, Norwich, QPR, Sunderland, Stoke etc. Only then will we know where we stand for this season
To go and lose 3-2 to the both the top two teams in this country if not Europe, and be disapointed that we have not won shows how far this club has come in the last two years. We never expected to get anything from these games and we all need to reserve judgement on where this club is until we start playing the likes of Aston Villa, Norwich, QPR, Sunderland, Stoke etc. Only then will we know where we stand for this season Harry Bong
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9:02pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
[quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that? OSPREYSAINT
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9:04pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome. OSPREYSAINT
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9:10pm Mon 3 Sep 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games loosehead
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9:10pm Mon 3 Sep 12

TheTom says...

We will def finish in bottom half of Prem with NA @ the helm but, we will finish in top 10 with Strach. If Twitchy Judas is recalled we will be finished.
We will def finish in bottom half of Prem with NA @ the helm but, we will finish in top 10 with Strach. If Twitchy Judas is recalled we will be finished. TheTom
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9:24pm Mon 3 Sep 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
If it was that weak a defence, we would have been mullerred proper, it was more down to fatigue than lack of ability.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]If it was that weak a defence, we would have been mullerred proper, it was more down to fatigue than lack of ability. OSPREYSAINT
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9:56pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Saints Guy North says...

Ok ....its very simple... I have played football all my life and in some games 3 or 4 players are cosing my team a problem....wish their manager take off one of these players to ease the pressure.....but wait Xmas has come early... Manager takes off 3 of them off...we have no pressure...let go and try and win this now.....get my point...NA you lost us the game ...sorry to say
Ok ....its very simple... I have played football all my life and in some games 3 or 4 players are cosing my team a problem....wish their manager take off one of these players to ease the pressure.....but wait Xmas has come early... Manager takes off 3 of them off...we have no pressure...let go and try and win this now.....get my point...NA you lost us the game ...sorry to say Saints Guy North
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10:14pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Velleity says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them.

I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it. Velleity
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10:15pm Mon 3 Sep 12

Velleity says...

*nine men, not ten men
*nine men, not ten men Velleity
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11:30pm Mon 3 Sep 12

City Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them.

I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it.

Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo.

You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again.

Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so.

I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name.

Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning. City Saint
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7:14am Tue 4 Sep 12

Normandy says...

I am afraid it is clear to everyone being
honest that NA got it badly wrong
He has done a great job up to the start
of this season, no doubt.
He was trying to be too clever and it failed be honest Nigel and admit your mistake, if he does not realise it was a very bad decision that is a real worry,
I am hoping he knows otherwise we are in trouble and i do not want anyone to have a excuse to bring pasty face second hand car salesman back.
I am afraid it is clear to everyone being honest that NA got it badly wrong He has done a great job up to the start of this season, no doubt. He was trying to be too clever and it failed be honest Nigel and admit your mistake, if he does not realise it was a very bad decision that is a real worry, I am hoping he knows otherwise we are in trouble and i do not want anyone to have a excuse to bring pasty face second hand car salesman back. Normandy
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7:24am Tue 4 Sep 12

Velleity says...

City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them.

I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it.

Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo.

You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again.

Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so.

I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name.

Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.
What a strange and confused post.

You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well.

You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic.

As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.[/p][/quote]What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills. Velleity
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7:44am Tue 4 Sep 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
If it was that weak a defence, we would have been mullerred proper, it was more down to fatigue than lack of ability.
I thought you watched football?
Put a team under enough pressure in defence & you relieve pressure on you're own defence which our front three were doing adequately until Adkins took them off
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]If it was that weak a defence, we would have been mullerred proper, it was more down to fatigue than lack of ability.[/p][/quote]I thought you watched football? Put a team under enough pressure in defence & you relieve pressure on you're own defence which our front three were doing adequately until Adkins took them off loosehead
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7:53am Tue 4 Sep 12

loosehead says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote:
So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte?
Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you?
Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me?
Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them.

I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Sorry I don't know you but I guess you agree with taking off three players who are attacking & putting Man U on the back foot with three players to counter attack so putting pressure on you're weak defence?
Do you not agree we need to strengthen our defence?
If you do why has he seemingly gone for strikers or attacking players & not shored up the defence?
Unlike many posters on here before we won the cup in the year we got relegated I followed the Saints all over the country I was a West Stand season ticket holder (the Dell) & I remember games when the seats were empty but I was still there cheering them on.
But I have pointed out several times our defence needs strengthening & after the way our goalie put us under pressure even though he saved a weak penalty maybe we should be replacing him.
The goalie organises his defence so why exactly was no one told to mark Van Persie?
Or was it only Fonte's fault?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Sorry I don't know you but I guess you agree with taking off three players who are attacking & putting Man U on the back foot with three players to counter attack so putting pressure on you're weak defence? Do you not agree we need to strengthen our defence? If you do why has he seemingly gone for strikers or attacking players & not shored up the defence? Unlike many posters on here before we won the cup in the year we got relegated I followed the Saints all over the country I was a West Stand season ticket holder (the Dell) & I remember games when the seats were empty but I was still there cheering them on. But I have pointed out several times our defence needs strengthening & after the way our goalie put us under pressure even though he saved a weak penalty maybe we should be replacing him. The goalie organises his defence so why exactly was no one told to mark Van Persie? Or was it only Fonte's fault? loosehead
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8:04am Tue 4 Sep 12

JohnItaly says...

Harry Bong wrote:
To go and lose 3-2 to the both the top two teams in this country if not Europe, and be disapointed that we have not won shows how far this club has come in the last two years. We never expected to get anything from these games and we all need to reserve judgement on where this club is until we start playing the likes of Aston Villa, Norwich, QPR, Sunderland, Stoke etc. Only then will we know where we stand for this season
You left Wigan out.
[quote][p][bold]Harry Bong[/bold] wrote: To go and lose 3-2 to the both the top two teams in this country if not Europe, and be disapointed that we have not won shows how far this club has come in the last two years. We never expected to get anything from these games and we all need to reserve judgement on where this club is until we start playing the likes of Aston Villa, Norwich, QPR, Sunderland, Stoke etc. Only then will we know where we stand for this season[/p][/quote]You left Wigan out. JohnItaly
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10:24am Tue 4 Sep 12

Don-Irelando says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Don-Irelando wrote: can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal.
I guess it was the fact he was involved with the Pinnacle bid which delayed the Liebherr takeover.
is this genuinely the only reason why? I'm not sure if anyone else feels the same way but I am really dissapointed with the way he is continuously victimised by the club he gave everything to.

the fact that he has to buy a season ticket anyway is a bit of joke but on sunday he gave it to a friend to use as he was a pundit on sky and his friend was refused entry!! NC is no doubt a great businessman but this is not on and I think if it continues us fans should make our views known.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Don-Irelando[/bold] wrote: can anyone shed any light on why NC hates Matt Le Tiss? reading his twitter last night he is getting a bit of a raw deal.[/p][/quote]I guess it was the fact he was involved with the Pinnacle bid which delayed the Liebherr takeover.[/p][/quote]is this genuinely the only reason why? I'm not sure if anyone else feels the same way but I am really dissapointed with the way he is continuously victimised by the club he gave everything to. the fact that he has to buy a season ticket anyway is a bit of joke but on sunday he gave it to a friend to use as he was a pundit on sky and his friend was refused entry!! NC is no doubt a great businessman but this is not on and I think if it continues us fans should make our views known. Don-Irelando
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10:31am Tue 4 Sep 12

loosehead says...

Going for another midfield attacker who's 37 why?
it must be blatantly obvious we need to replace most of our defence or at least look at replacing Fonte & maybe the goalie the last thing we need now is another striker or attacking midfielder it wasn't the strike force that lost to Man U
Going for another midfield attacker who's 37 why? it must be blatantly obvious we need to replace most of our defence or at least look at replacing Fonte & maybe the goalie the last thing we need now is another striker or attacking midfielder it wasn't the strike force that lost to Man U loosehead
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11:22am Tue 4 Sep 12

City Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.
What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.
Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One.

Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes.

In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views.

WHO ARE YA?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.[/p][/quote]What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.[/p][/quote]Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One. Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes. In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views. WHO ARE YA? City Saint
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11:57am Tue 4 Sep 12

Velleity says...

Ah, an ad hominem* attack. My favourite.

As for "In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views", rearrange the following words into a sentence.

Case the pot kettle calling of that's rather black the a













*Look it up, you seem to like google.
Ah, an ad hominem* attack. My favourite. As for "In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views", rearrange the following words into a sentence. Case the pot kettle calling of that's rather black the a *Look it up, you seem to like google. Velleity
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12:43pm Tue 4 Sep 12

mbetts says...

A simple sub would have been Lambert off Sharp on, he would have done the same job as Lambert and kept the pressure on them, that was the most baffling and disappointing "tactical" decision of the last week!
A simple sub would have been Lambert off Sharp on, he would have done the same job as Lambert and kept the pressure on them, that was the most baffling and disappointing "tactical" decision of the last week! mbetts
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3:40pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Velleity says...

City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.
What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.
Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One.

Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes.

In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views.

WHO ARE YA?
Who are YOU, old boy? Telling fibs about how long you've been on here, are you, you little rascal? The thing you mendacious cads forget is that the internet has a memory.

Your posts in 2012
http://tinyurl.com/c
ceb2rb
Lots!

Your posts in 2011
http://tinyurl.com/c
x6fvh8
One! In December!

Your posts in 2010
http://tinyurl.com/c
hpveyl
None! Ever!

etc, etc





So, sit down, shut up and stop telling porkies. You've been well and truly found out, you little scamp.
[quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.[/p][/quote]What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.[/p][/quote]Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One. Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes. In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views. WHO ARE YA?[/p][/quote]Who are YOU, old boy? Telling fibs about how long you've been on here, are you, you little rascal? The thing you mendacious cads forget is that the internet has a memory. Your posts in 2012 http://tinyurl.com/c ceb2rb Lots! Your posts in 2011 http://tinyurl.com/c x6fvh8 One! In December! Your posts in 2010 http://tinyurl.com/c hpveyl None! Ever! etc, etc So, sit down, shut up and stop telling porkies. You've been well and truly found out, you little scamp. Velleity
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5:09pm Tue 4 Sep 12

City Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
City Saint wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Fatty x Ford Worker wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?
Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?
Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.
So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games
Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.
Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.
What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.
Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One. Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes. In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views. WHO ARE YA?
Who are YOU, old boy? Telling fibs about how long you've been on here, are you, you little rascal? The thing you mendacious cads forget is that the internet has a memory. Your posts in 2012 http://tinyurl.com/c ceb2rb Lots! Your posts in 2011 http://tinyurl.com/c x6fvh8 One! In December! Your posts in 2010 http://tinyurl.com/c hpveyl None! Ever! etc, etc So, sit down, shut up and stop telling porkies. You've been well and truly found out, you little scamp.
Ha! I once traded under another name.

WHO ARE YA?
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]City Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fatty x Ford Worker[/bold] wrote: So why did the Skanks win the game in the last quarter then?[/p][/quote]Beacuse on the day they were marginally better than us, understand that?[/p][/quote]Drat "because" not Beacuse!, Fat(yy x Ford Worker) finger syndrome.[/p][/quote]So nothing to do with poor marking by Fonte? Or having Man U on the back foot & taking the strike force off & replacing it with a so called counter attacking trio so asking United to attack you? Osprey I pointed out Saints defensive weaknesses & what did you say to me? Read the posts watch the game with a weak defence you can't invite teams to attack you with the hope of a break away attack you have to pen them into their half of the pitch & this counts for team ball games[/p][/quote]Lambert was on his knees, as was Lallana. I was there, watching, and could see that. It might not have looked like that on TV but it was so. That's what happens when you put in the effort to keep up with a side like Man U. We'll obviously never know but if they had stayed on I have no doubt we'd have lost, as we'd effectively have been down to ten men. Then you WOULD have been on here saying that Adkins was wrong not to replace them. I know that because I can't remember a single, solitary positive post you have ever made on this site. Possibly you have but if so, I've missed it.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Every critic gets spanked by Velleity and her friends the minute they pop up with an observation that things could have been handled better. Nigel is a fallible man, not a Roman Emperor or a Thai King. There is no lese majeste in force at st mary's yet. we could have beaten man u. Many of us think we SHOULD have beaten man u given our performance. Get over it. Velliety, it's ladies like you who probably think it's ok that the Echo is banned from St Mary's because they had the temerity to publish a story three years ago about the expansion of the training facilities againt cortese's wishes. The plans were publicly available for planning permission review, be cortese still got all Godfather on the echo. You might think that's hid prerogative (and indeed it is). But think about what kind of people suppress dissent. Then look in the mirror again. Valleity: "a mild desire, a wish or urge too slight to lead to action." if only it were so. I love the saints. Shame about some of the fans. Just live and let live, or at least live up to your name. Bring on the Arse for a good tanning.[/p][/quote]What a strange and confused post. You seem to be arguing for people to be allowed to speak but not people who think Adkins did as good a job as he could on Sunday against a team that's noted for finishing games astoundingly well. You're ranting a little in your aside about the DE not having anything to do with the club - what's that got to do with the price of fish? Do try to stay on topic. As for my username - Well done, you know how to use Google. You must be very proud of your typing skills.[/p][/quote]Well, that's engagement gone out the window then. Most of us have been posting here since Saints were starting out in League One. Perhaps you should come back in a few years when you've got some stripes. In the meantime, I would encourage you to refrain from jumping all over people when they disagree with your views. WHO ARE YA?[/p][/quote]Who are YOU, old boy? Telling fibs about how long you've been on here, are you, you little rascal? The thing you mendacious cads forget is that the internet has a memory. Your posts in 2012 http://tinyurl.com/c ceb2rb Lots! Your posts in 2011 http://tinyurl.com/c x6fvh8 One! In December! Your posts in 2010 http://tinyurl.com/c hpveyl None! Ever! etc, etc So, sit down, shut up and stop telling porkies. You've been well and truly found out, you little scamp.[/p][/quote]Ha! I once traded under another name. WHO ARE YA? City Saint
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5:12pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Velleity says...

When you're in a hole stop digging. You just get deeper into your lies.

Anyway, do make sure you get the last word. It'll make you look so tough and make it seem like you're right and that you've won.
When you're in a hole stop digging. You just get deeper into your lies. Anyway, do make sure you get the last word. It'll make you look so tough and make it seem like you're right and that you've won. Velleity
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5:17pm Tue 4 Sep 12

City Saint says...

Velleity wrote:
When you're in a hole stop digging. You just get deeper into your lies. Anyway, do make sure you get the last word. It'll make you look so tough and make it seem like you're right and that you've won.
Yes indeed, I am right on this one, mush.

Why don't you say your piece, share your views, and just refrain from jumping all over other people in the first place when they share a view that is different from your own?

I started criticizing you in the first place because you've popped up out of nowhere, talking big and dissing other posters.

Be less of a troll, show some respect to everyone else and I'm sure you'll be welcomed.

Together as one, as the man says.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: When you're in a hole stop digging. You just get deeper into your lies. Anyway, do make sure you get the last word. It'll make you look so tough and make it seem like you're right and that you've won.[/p][/quote]Yes indeed, I am right on this one, mush. Why don't you say your piece, share your views, and just refrain from jumping all over other people in the first place when they share a view that is different from your own? I started criticizing you in the first place because you've popped up out of nowhere, talking big and dissing other posters. Be less of a troll, show some respect to everyone else and I'm sure you'll be welcomed. Together as one, as the man says. City Saint
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5:27pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Velleity says...

Once again your facts are incorrect.

Out of nowhere? I've been on since last December, you twit.

Yeah, exactly as long as you.

(Unless... oh no, hang on, I, too, posted under a different name before then which makes me more important than you so you should listen to me as some kind of elder statesman with the right to police this site.).
Once again your facts are incorrect. Out of nowhere? I've been on since last December, you twit. Yeah, exactly as long as you. (Unless... oh no, hang on, I, too, posted under a different name before then which makes me more important than you so you should listen to me as some kind of elder statesman with the right to police this site.). Velleity
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5:52pm Tue 4 Sep 12

randre says...

Nigel will learn from this. But in life we all make mistakes and on hindsight this seemed to be, however myself and all the supporters around me said lambert, Lallana and puncheon had run themselves into the ground.

Against man city many people were saying how the subscriptions were superb, this week they were wrong. But hey, everyone makes mistakes. Even experienced managers make mistakes, even ferguson!

As for Redknapp, he made some repeated blunder subs last year, it happens.

Overall i am proud of the team and manager, after two days to reflect I feel very confident in our future.
Nigel will learn from this. But in life we all make mistakes and on hindsight this seemed to be, however myself and all the supporters around me said lambert, Lallana and puncheon had run themselves into the ground. Against man city many people were saying how the subscriptions were superb, this week they were wrong. But hey, everyone makes mistakes. Even experienced managers make mistakes, even ferguson! As for Redknapp, he made some repeated blunder subs last year, it happens. Overall i am proud of the team and manager, after two days to reflect I feel very confident in our future. randre
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7:26pm Tue 4 Sep 12

Scarborosaint says...

NA is the manger of Southampton football club not the supporters or me he has guided us to successive promotions and we have been entertained all way playing attractive football the way we at the saints love to watch ( go and watch Stoke or west ham otherwise)
Fresh legs against man utd were needed, the only thing that might of helped was shoring up midfield to stop scholes playing but we trust NA to make more right calls than wrong ones and let's get one thing clear true supporters don't want Harry Redknapp , he had plenty of time to prevent us from getting relegated last time and left us to go back to the skates enough said
NA is the manger of Southampton football club not the supporters or me he has guided us to successive promotions and we have been entertained all way playing attractive football the way we at the saints love to watch ( go and watch Stoke or west ham otherwise) Fresh legs against man utd were needed, the only thing that might of helped was shoring up midfield to stop scholes playing but we trust NA to make more right calls than wrong ones and let's get one thing clear true supporters don't want Harry Redknapp , he had plenty of time to prevent us from getting relegated last time and left us to go back to the skates enough said Scarborosaint
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8:50pm Tue 4 Sep 12

J.P.M says...

Saints were named after atkkins.

He has such a SAD face.

SFC!
SFC!
SFC!
SFC SFC SFCeeeeeeeee!
Saints were named after atkkins. He has such a SAD face. SFC! SFC! SFC! SFC SFC SFCeeeeeeeee! J.P.M
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9:11pm Tue 4 Sep 12

loosehead says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
NA is the manger of Southampton football club not the supporters or me he has guided us to successive promotions and we have been entertained all way playing attractive football the way we at the saints love to watch ( go and watch Stoke or west ham otherwise)
Fresh legs against man utd were needed, the only thing that might of helped was shoring up midfield to stop scholes playing but we trust NA to make more right calls than wrong ones and let's get one thing clear true supporters don't want Harry Redknapp , he had plenty of time to prevent us from getting relegated last time and left us to go back to the skates enough said
So shoring up the defence wouldn't help?
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: NA is the manger of Southampton football club not the supporters or me he has guided us to successive promotions and we have been entertained all way playing attractive football the way we at the saints love to watch ( go and watch Stoke or west ham otherwise) Fresh legs against man utd were needed, the only thing that might of helped was shoring up midfield to stop scholes playing but we trust NA to make more right calls than wrong ones and let's get one thing clear true supporters don't want Harry Redknapp , he had plenty of time to prevent us from getting relegated last time and left us to go back to the skates enough said[/p][/quote]So shoring up the defence wouldn't help? loosehead
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1:09pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dyneley says...

Stop bickering folks. Watching the first three games albeit from downunder we ain't going no where but up. My only concern / comment is that if we made three subs because they were all knackered then the team training is obviously not up to scratch. Aren't we suppose to have one of the best training facilities in the country. Maybe it's new fitness coach that's required.
And if you think Arry is the answer, your asking the wrong question.
Stop bickering folks. Watching the first three games albeit from downunder we ain't going no where but up. My only concern / comment is that if we made three subs because they were all knackered then the team training is obviously not up to scratch. Aren't we suppose to have one of the best training facilities in the country. Maybe it's new fitness coach that's required. And if you think Arry is the answer, your asking the wrong question. Dyneley
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5:25pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Redrobbo says...

randre wrote:
Nigel will learn from this. But in life we all make mistakes and on hindsight this seemed to be, however myself and all the supporters around me said lambert, Lallana and puncheon had run themselves into the ground. Against man city many people were saying how the subscriptions were superb, this week they were wrong. But hey, everyone makes mistakes. Even experienced managers make mistakes, even ferguson! As for Redknapp, he made some repeated blunder subs last year, it happens. Overall i am proud of the team and manager, after two days to reflect I feel very confident in our future.
as I said elsewhere niave defending cost us two goals. Had we defended better we would have beaten United 2-1, and no one would have mentioned the substitutions. In hindsight other decisions could have been made, I would have chosen different lottery numbers for one! I think the fact that Nigel chose attacking changes instead of packing the defence should be applauded. It has nothing to do with fitness levels, all three could have played for another 15 minutes, but if they had to race against three fresh pairs of legs I think they would lose that race 10 times out of 10. So its nothing to do with individual fitness, it is about bringing more energy to the team.Football is now a 14 man game, we saw that against City, the introduction of Lambert and Davis has a dramatic effect. If we play like we have done in two and a half of our three games then we will be OK, we have two internationals to come in to the fold, and we have Cork coming back from injury. The players and the manager are still finding their feet, but we will get to the required level very quickly.the table at the moment means nothing.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: Nigel will learn from this. But in life we all make mistakes and on hindsight this seemed to be, however myself and all the supporters around me said lambert, Lallana and puncheon had run themselves into the ground. Against man city many people were saying how the subscriptions were superb, this week they were wrong. But hey, everyone makes mistakes. Even experienced managers make mistakes, even ferguson! As for Redknapp, he made some repeated blunder subs last year, it happens. Overall i am proud of the team and manager, after two days to reflect I feel very confident in our future.[/p][/quote]as I said elsewhere niave defending cost us two goals. Had we defended better we would have beaten United 2-1, and no one would have mentioned the substitutions. In hindsight other decisions could have been made, I would have chosen different lottery numbers for one! I think the fact that Nigel chose attacking changes instead of packing the defence should be applauded. It has nothing to do with fitness levels, all three could have played for another 15 minutes, but if they had to race against three fresh pairs of legs I think they would lose that race 10 times out of 10. So its nothing to do with individual fitness, it is about bringing more energy to the team.Football is now a 14 man game, we saw that against City, the introduction of Lambert and Davis has a dramatic effect. If we play like we have done in two and a half of our three games then we will be OK, we have two internationals to come in to the fold, and we have Cork coming back from injury. The players and the manager are still finding their feet, but we will get to the required level very quickly.the table at the moment means nothing. Redrobbo
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5:57pm Wed 5 Sep 12

right back in the bar says...

There were a good number of outstanding performances on Sunday that bode well and with the new players to come in it can only get better still. The negativity on this website astounds me and its incredible that supporters of the football club can be so critical of their own players and manager. I wonder if these people are the extra 10,000 who are showing up and buying tickets now all of a sudden. One or two of the lads are lacking composure (witness rash challenges, sliced clearances under no pressure, and anywhere will do syndrome) and struggling to adjust. Don't get on their backs and make it worse.
There were a good number of outstanding performances on Sunday that bode well and with the new players to come in it can only get better still. The negativity on this website astounds me and its incredible that supporters of the football club can be so critical of their own players and manager. I wonder if these people are the extra 10,000 who are showing up and buying tickets now all of a sudden. One or two of the lads are lacking composure (witness rash challenges, sliced clearances under no pressure, and anywhere will do syndrome) and struggling to adjust. Don't get on their backs and make it worse. right back in the bar
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6:00pm Wed 5 Sep 12

thomasupton says...

Adkins cost us the game, very poor decision. Totally changed the game.
Adkins cost us the game, very poor decision. Totally changed the game. thomasupton
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7:59pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dellgirl says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was.
No need for Agent H this time..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Can appreciate the reasons for the moves but on this occasion they were not to be the correct ones. The script deemed that Manure should win in Fergie time and so it was.[/p][/quote]No need for Agent H this time.. Dellgirl
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8:02pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dellgirl says...

Block 34 wrote:
I a big fan of Nigel, but on this occasion sadly he got it wrong.
Thought Puncheon had a great game, nice to see. Fox & Fonte too slow again, but on the plus side Nigel had the team playing well & we were so close...!!
Our season starts with the Villa game - any points ahead of that are a bonus.
Hear hear. Above Villa and below Wigan will do just fine..
[quote][p][bold]Block 34[/bold] wrote: I a big fan of Nigel, but on this occasion sadly he got it wrong. Thought Puncheon had a great game, nice to see. Fox & Fonte too slow again, but on the plus side Nigel had the team playing well & we were so close...!! Our season starts with the Villa game - any points ahead of that are a bonus.[/p][/quote]Hear hear. Above Villa and below Wigan will do just fine.. Dellgirl
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8:03pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dellgirl says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
As I said elsewhere Lambert was absolutely dead on his feet, he was unable to get off the ground. To have left him on would have been madness. Unfortunately the new lad didn't win a single challenge and we needed him to hold the ball up. But the main reason we lost was Paul Scholes.
90 minutes. All a bit much.. Lambert for England!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: As I said elsewhere Lambert was absolutely dead on his feet, he was unable to get off the ground. To have left him on would have been madness. Unfortunately the new lad didn't win a single challenge and we needed him to hold the ball up. But the main reason we lost was Paul Scholes.[/p][/quote]90 minutes. All a bit much.. Lambert for England! Dellgirl
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8:05pm Wed 5 Sep 12

Dellgirl says...

Kingsland Gaz wrote:
Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR
Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..
[quote][p][bold]Kingsland Gaz[/bold] wrote: Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR[/p][/quote]Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky.. Dellgirl
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9:05pm Fri 7 Sep 12

randre says...

Dellgirl wrote:
Kingsland Gaz wrote:
Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR
Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..
Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams.

Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me.
[quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingsland Gaz[/bold] wrote: Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR[/p][/quote]Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..[/p][/quote]Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams. Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me. randre
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9:05pm Fri 7 Sep 12

randre says...

Dellgirl wrote:
Kingsland Gaz wrote:
Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR
Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..
Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams.

Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me.
[quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingsland Gaz[/bold] wrote: Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR[/p][/quote]Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..[/p][/quote]Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams. Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me. randre
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9:05pm Fri 7 Sep 12

randre says...

Dellgirl wrote:
Kingsland Gaz wrote:
Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR
Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..
Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams.

Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me.
[quote][p][bold]Dellgirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kingsland Gaz[/bold] wrote: Come on Nige,it takes a bigger man to admit that on this occasion you got it badly wrong,i am a big fan of Mr adkins in general and hopefully he will learn from this very costly error? All 3 players that were removed have now got 2 weeks to recover so im not buying the tiredness issue,simply if they had stayed on the pitch then we would have got at least a point! Having said all that, thought we were outstanding yesterday and the future looks very bright once we have got our tricky first 4 fixtures out of the way. COYR[/p][/quote]Home to Wigan.. Yep, tricky..[/p][/quote]Actually it was. We have played 4 of the top 5 firm teams (continuing from last season). So yep, Wigan was always going to be tricky, a side in form and a few fans that expect a result against such teams. Wigan have got some massive results over this calendar year, why people underestimated them is beyond me. randre
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9:07pm Fri 7 Sep 12

randre says...

Aaaggghhh, three times and all of them say firm teams... Meant to be 4 of the top five form teams!!
Aaaggghhh, three times and all of them say firm teams... Meant to be 4 of the top five form teams!! randre
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