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Ramirez set for Saints debut?
9:16am Friday 14th September 2012 in Sport
By Adam Leitch, Chief Sports Writer
Ramirez set for Saints debut?
Saints could unleash the most expensively assembled side in the club’s history for their first trip to the Emirates Stadium tomorrow.
£12m man Gaston Ramirez is available for his first game for the club, as is Japan international Maya Yoshida , signed for £2m, while Emmanuel Mayuka is also hoping for a first start since his £3.5m move.
Nigel Adkins suddenly has a host of options, and decisions to make ahead of the game at Arsenal.
With Ramirez and Yoshida having only reported to the club for the first time yesterday after travelling back from international games in South America and Japan respectively, it could be too big an ask for them to start.
However, Adkins has promised to assess them carefully over the next 24 hours in order to decide if they are ready to start or take a place on the bench.
“They’ve been to different parts of the world and different time zones they’ve had to go through and some haven’t arrived back until Thursday,” he said.
“So it’s a case of checking out where everybody is, what they’ve gone and done and where they physically are in preparation for a great game at Arsenal.
“It’s his (Yoshida’s) first day in the building with us on Thursday, the same as Gaston.
“To get ready for a game on Saturday is a challenge and having not trained with their teammates before and not met them is a challenge as well, but it’s one we’re embracing.”
Saints are aiming for a first Premier League win of the season when they take on the Gunners tomorrow.
Adkins is hopeful that the lessons they have learned from a first three games which have seen them win plenty of plaudits but no points will stand them in good stead.
“The challenge is getting a team ready for the Barclay’s Premier League and that’s what we’ve embraced,” said Adkins.
Comments(42)
right back in the bar
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9:25am Fri 14 Sep 12
alan.of.eastleigh
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9:39am Fri 14 Sep 12
right back in the bar wrote:So what are you doing on the web? You should be working.
Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strength
redsnapper
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9:43am Fri 14 Sep 12
right back in the bar wrote:Long haul flying messes up everyone/s physical condition no matter who you are or what class you are flying..however i would hope that a jetlagged Yoshida who has the biggest time difference to adjust to, will replace Fonte whose performance in all games this season has cost us points.
Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strength
Confucious
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9:48am Fri 14 Sep 12
Abbey Saint
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9:50am Fri 14 Sep 12
right back in the bar wrote:yes, but would you expect someone who has never set foot in your office to be a fully productive member of your team from minute one of day one
Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strength
SouthamptonLegend
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9:53am Fri 14 Sep 12
Davis, Clyne, Yoshida, Jos, Fox, Morgan, Davis, Gaston, Lallana, Puncheon, Lambert.
Gazza, Richardson, Fonte, Chaplow, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Lee.
I've been really impressed with Puncheon this season, I think he deserves his starting place. Gaston and Yoshida are good enough to be thrown into any team so there's no reason for them not to be starting. Guly has been dropped in my opinion, he's had chances to shine this season but he never delivers.
Our team is looking pretty **** good!! :D
COYS!!
Confucious
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9:59am Fri 14 Sep 12
right back in the bar wrote:The good thing about first class is that babies have to go in the overhead compartment.
Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strength
truelysaints
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10:01am Fri 14 Sep 12
St Retford
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10:02am Fri 14 Sep 12
I suspect I probably am.
:(
Barcelona Saint
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10:10am Fri 14 Sep 12
redsnapper wrote:Don't forget Jos has given away 2 penalties already this season. We are lucky Davis saved them or our GD would be even worse!
right back in the bar wrote: Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strengthLong haul flying messes up everyone/s physical condition no matter who you are or what class you are flying..however i would hope that a jetlagged Yoshida who has the biggest time difference to adjust to, will replace Fonte whose performance in all games this season has cost us points.
The whole defence needs to do their job, not just Fonte! But I agree, Yoshida is worthy a start, ahead of him probably.
St Forlife
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10:14am Fri 14 Sep 12
SouthamptonLegend wrote:All of the above have done well but I'd put WP straight in at the start and have Gaston coming on later possibly for Puncheon. My fear is that RL will not start for the reasons given at ManC i.e. that he could spend most of the time chasing around and so bringing him on for impact.
Possible Starting 11?
Davis, Clyne, Yoshida, Jos, Fox, Morgan, Davis, Gaston, Lallana, Puncheon, Lambert.
Gazza, Richardson, Fonte, Chaplow, Ward-Prowse, Mayuka, Lee.
I've been really impressed with Puncheon this season, I think he deserves his starting place. Gaston and Yoshida are good enough to be thrown into any team so there's no reason for them not to be starting. Guly has been dropped in my opinion, he's had chances to shine this season but he never delivers.
Our team is looking pretty **** good!! :D
COYS!!
I'd start with him and IF he is subbed late on then hopefully it won't start a rush to the defence that happened against ManU.
Shaw should feature - pehaps at the start with Fox carrying an 'injury'.
Either way I am looking forward to the game big time. Won't be 'gutted' if we get beat but something tells me we are gonna start our season tomorrow!
SAINTDAZZA
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10:17am Fri 14 Sep 12
they seem to be quiet
redsnapper
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10:18am Fri 14 Sep 12
Barcelona Saint wrote:Barca, true enough, just talking with family in Perth WA who watch every game they blame KD whose distribution has been pretty dire and has probably undermined confidence..so lots of angles but agree the defence as a whole needs to be much more tuned into the Premier challenge.
redsnapper wrote:Don't forget Jos has given away 2 penalties already this season. We are lucky Davis saved them or our GD would be even worse!
right back in the bar wrote: Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strengthLong haul flying messes up everyone/s physical condition no matter who you are or what class you are flying..however i would hope that a jetlagged Yoshida who has the biggest time difference to adjust to, will replace Fonte whose performance in all games this season has cost us points.
The whole defence needs to do their job, not just Fonte! But I agree, Yoshida is worthy a start, ahead of him probably.
A draw will be good COYR
insane saint
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10:28am Fri 14 Sep 12
haha good days
Barcelona Saint
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10:40am Fri 14 Sep 12
redsnapper wrote:Agree, KD is never confident with the ball or in the box. I think it's good to play out from the back sometimes as it shows we want to play football and try and keep possession but KD doesn't instill confidence in anyone. He makes some great saves but if we don't sort our defence, he's gonna have a hell of a pummelling from the PL forwards this season!!
Barcelona Saint wrote:Barca, true enough, just talking with family in Perth WA who watch every game they blame KD whose distribution has been pretty dire and has probably undermined confidence..so lots of angles but agree the defence as a whole needs to be much more tuned into the Premier challenge. A draw will be good COYRredsnapper wrote:Don't forget Jos has given away 2 penalties already this season. We are lucky Davis saved them or our GD would be even worse! The whole defence needs to do their job, not just Fonte! But I agree, Yoshida is worthy a start, ahead of him probably.right back in the bar wrote: Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strengthLong haul flying messes up everyone/s physical condition no matter who you are or what class you are flying..however i would hope that a jetlagged Yoshida who has the biggest time difference to adjust to, will replace Fonte whose performance in all games this season has cost us points.
A draw would be excellent.
St Retford
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10:47am Fri 14 Sep 12
e'll-score-five and it was ace. I think we're going to be doing a lot of that this year. It'll be nail-biting but it will be exciting and, above all, it will be value for money.
Just so long as Nigel doesn't have a nervous breakdown on air and start going "I would LOVE it, LOVE it..." then it'll all be amazing. Enjoy.
devonsaint2
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11:12am Fri 14 Sep 12
I think RL will start because Arsenal will think he won't.
Personally I wouldn't start with Ramirez or Yoshida. I travel to China 3 times a year and jet lag is horrible. Saps your energy.
Ward Prowes should start I think but really not sure on Shaw. If the centre of the defence was more secure Fox is fine.
Folkestone Saint
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11:16am Fri 14 Sep 12
SaintMax
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11:17am Fri 14 Sep 12
I agree that Rameriz and Yoshida should both start they are defo good enough!
What happens when they travel across the world to play an International game, does the Uruguay/Japan manager say 'Im concerned all of my fr ick in team may have jet leg, so Im going to rest them all'....
right back in the bar
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11:18am Fri 14 Sep 12
Abbey Saint wrote:depends how much they drank on the flight. If they drank enough then yes. Seriously, take your point though, probably a bit risky playing Yoshida and expecting him to gell with whoever (probably Hoolveld, but both CHs have looked out of sorts so far). But ramirez must play, just give him the ball and let him get on with it.
right back in the bar wrote:yes, but would you expect someone who has never set foot in your office to be a fully productive member of your team from minute one of day one
Bloody hell my company sticks us in economy on overnight trips and expects us to get to work after the plane lands at 6.30 in the morning. These guys have flown back first class and got their heads down and its doubtful they can play 90 minutes of football.give me strength
JohnItaly
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11:35am Fri 14 Sep 12
SaintMax
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12:04pm Fri 14 Sep 12
St Retford
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12:06pm Fri 14 Sep 12
SaintMax wrote:Well if that doesn't get him up for the game I don't know what will.
Cant wait to see that pic of Gaston kissing his ring in a Saints shirt. Score a hatrick Saturday Gaston and you can kiss mine too!.
Strasbourg Saint
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12:31pm Fri 14 Sep 12
St Retford wrote:Nope, Retford, that one's lost on me. I'm sure I've come across a character called Gaston in something though but can't think where. Could it be in Ratatouille? No, I think that's Gusteau, isn't it?
Am I alone in being unable to hear the name 'Gaston' and not immediately think of the ladybird from Ben & Holly's Little Kingdom?
I suspect I probably am.
:(
It'll come to me, but by then, Ramirez will have bagged several goals and bucketloads of assists.
Mush On The Beach
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1:12pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Our newbies have been travelling long distances this week, don’t care if it’s first class travel it still takes a toll. Expect Nigel to bring some new faces off the bench.
Gooners 2 Saints 3
Scott_OOOSH
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1:36pm Fri 14 Sep 12
The song is quite good too!
"No one's slick as Gaston, No one's quick as Gaston, No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston's!"
I think it could catch on!
SO50 Saint
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1:52pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Scott_OOOSH
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1:58pm Fri 14 Sep 12
lowe esteem
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2:03pm Fri 14 Sep 12
I have defended this man's footballing input to the hilt, but then the driving thing, followed by the Monty Python newsreader bit for the Courts-or was it Wallace and Gromit the wrong trousers?
You are on borrowed time GDP-I trust the new continental influx will suit you and you play out of your skin, like the L men!
Kendog
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2:11pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Confucious wrote:We don't have a Wamierz sir.... but we have a Brian?
Unleash Wamirez!
Strasbourg Saint
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2:45pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Scott_OOOSH wrote:That's it. Thanks.
Gaston is a character from Beauty and the Beast!
The song is quite good too!
"No one's slick as Gaston, No one's quick as Gaston, No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston's!"
I think it could catch on!
Beauty and the Beast? Sounds like a meeting of the Hampshire Professional Football Club Managers Association on the day that Dean Holdsworth couldn't make it.
Don-Irelando
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3:04pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Strasbourg Saint wrote:I am so happy someone else has brought this up. I mentioned it a few months back and not a whiff!
Scott_OOOSH wrote: Gaston is a character from Beauty and the Beast! The song is quite good too! "No one's slick as Gaston, No one's quick as Gaston, No one's neck's as incredibly thick as Gaston's!" I think it could catch on!That's it. Thanks. Beauty and the Beast? Sounds like a meeting of the Hampshire Professional Football Club Managers Association on the day that Dean Holdsworth couldn't make it.
"one i was a boy i ate one dozen eggs to make me get big and large.... but now im a man i eat two dozen eggs and im roughly the size of a barge"
on second thoughts probably not the best clip for the norhtern faithful but there is definately millage in it.
CB FRY LIVES
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3:20pm Fri 14 Sep 12
SO50 Saint
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3:25pm Fri 14 Sep 12
Barcelona Saint
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3:30pm Fri 14 Sep 12
I hope he turns out to be just that. Watch this space.
Mush On The Beach
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3:45pm Fri 14 Sep 12
CB FRY LIVES wrote:We didn’t do our homework close enough on the big man. He was already on an injury curve making him susceptible to the demands of top flight English footy. Not my words, but Tim Vickery of the BBC who talks far more sense on footy matters than me :)
Lets hope he is a better player than the Ecuadorian player Delgado who never really hit the expected heights of excellence which all the hype surrounding him at the time created.
He did look good in his opening game from what I remember, but sadly it didn’t work out.
Interestingly about Ramirez, and I did point you all to a BBC podcast on this about a month ago, Vickery who is an impartial Brit in Brazil said the following (I paraphrase):
He has a lethal left foot and will score us plenty of goals from set plays.
He is a tall lad and will cause opponents discomfort in the final third.
He is not use to the speed of the premiership and will find this confronting.
He is a young player that flashes both brilliance but at the same time can go missing when the team is on the back foot.
I don’t think he will be tracking back Nigel
Jannersaint
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11:41pm Fri 14 Sep 12
SAINTDAZZA wrote:aren't we the scummers?! Confused
what's happened to the scummers?
they seem to be quiet
Mush On The Beach
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1:33pm Sat 15 Sep 12
Jannersaint wrote:They were and are the original Scummers, for industrial dock dispute reasons but then tried to re-spin it, but that it is old hat (as anyone over 35 knows).
SAINTDAZZA wrote:aren't we the scummers?! Confused
what's happened to the scummers?
they seem to be quiet
They are a seriously insecure bunch down in Poopey when it comes to Southampton.
They hate while we love.
They are a Town while we are a CITY.
It eats them away!!!
Jannersaint
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12:09am Sun 16 Sep 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:Portsmouth is definatley a City. The fact they have a City Council tells us that.
Jannersaint wrote:They were and are the original Scummers, for industrial dock dispute reasons but then tried to re-spin it, but that it is old hat (as anyone over 35 knows).
SAINTDAZZA wrote:aren't we the scummers?! Confused
what's happened to the scummers?
they seem to be quiet
They are a seriously insecure bunch down in Poopey when it comes to Southampton.
They hate while we love.
They are a Town while we are a CITY.
It eats them away!!!
I am over 35 (was 36 in august) and I've never heard Pompey called scummers. The history of the dockyard dispute made us the scum I thought. In fact SCUM was a nickname given to us by virtue of the dockyard group 'Southampton Company Union Men' who would travel to Pompey to work.
We are SCUM and they are Skates. Some think it's skates because of the fish. A fish that is both a bottom feeder and the pleasure fish of randy seamen. My old grandad said they were skates because of how quick they skated from the top flight to the bottom divisions in the early 20th century. I've never looked it up so just enjoy all three versions.
frattonparked
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10:25am Sun 16 Sep 12
mbetts wrote:and frankly in hindsight not misplaced optimism!
Oh I do hope so! Be love to shock the gooners coz I think they're expecting 3 points are a given!
frattonparked
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10:27am Sun 16 Sep 12
Mush On The Beach wrote:After yesterday it might be a good idea if Saints had a player who was good when you are on the back foot (it might be good if Pompey had a player mind you .....)
CB FRY LIVES wrote:We didn’t do our homework close enough on the big man. He was already on an injury curve making him susceptible to the demands of top flight English footy. Not my words, but Tim Vickery of the BBC who talks far more sense on footy matters than me :)
Lets hope he is a better player than the Ecuadorian player Delgado who never really hit the expected heights of excellence which all the hype surrounding him at the time created.
He did look good in his opening game from what I remember, but sadly it didn’t work out.
Interestingly about Ramirez, and I did point you all to a BBC podcast on this about a month ago, Vickery who is an impartial Brit in Brazil said the following (I paraphrase):
He has a lethal left foot and will score us plenty of goals from set plays.
He is a tall lad and will cause opponents discomfort in the final third.
He is not use to the speed of the premiership and will find this confronting.
He is a young player that flashes both brilliance but at the same time can go missing when the team is on the back foot.
I don’t think he will be tracking back Nigel
mbetts says...
9:24am Fri 14 Sep 12