Fonte rescues a point for Saints

Fonte rescues a point for Saints

Fonte rescues a point for Saints

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Jose Fonte scored twice, including a last-minute equaliser, as Saints earned a point against Fulham at St Mary’s.

The defender had opened the scoring with a looping header in the fourth minute, before a Jos Hooiveld own goal and a late Kieran Richardson strike put Martin Jol's side in front.

However, Fonte rescued a draw with another header, this time from Danny Fox’s in-swinging free-kick.

Saints started brightly and deservedly opened the scoring in the early stages.

From Adam Lallana’s corner, Fonte eluded the Fulham defence with some nice movement and looped a header across goal and just inside the far post.

Saints had the better of the first half, but were unable to build on their lead.

As the game wore on, Fulham came into it more and the visitors dominated the second half.

They equalised in the 69th minute when John Arne Riise’s powerful low drive was deflected into the net by Hooiveld.

It looked like Saints had lost the match when they allowed Sascha Riether to get down the right and cut the ball back for Richardson, who fired in a shot that deflected off Hooiveld.

But Fox’s teasing delivery in the final stages was met by Fonte, who put a header past Mark Schwarzer from close range.

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The result moved Saints out of the relegation zone heading into the international break, as they leapfrogged Reading and moved up to 17th place.

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3:47pm Sun 7 Oct 12

SaintRachel says...

Jose Fonte baby!
Jose Fonte baby! SaintRachel
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3:59pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Linesman says...

Is it a fitness thing?

Why can't they last for 90 minutes?
Is it a fitness thing? Why can't they last for 90 minutes? Linesman
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4:01pm Sun 7 Oct 12

magnette says...

Saints' defence all out of position again. Ball watching and panicking leaving huge gaps for attackers to fill. Lucky Fulham were below average and couldn't manage to score 3 goals like everyone else has. NC get a defence coach!
Well done Fonte! Punch good. Lallana no use inside the half way line. Chaplow would make a good reserve right back? Davies did alright. Lambo ok, might have scored 2 on another day.
More relegation form? :(
Saints' defence all out of position again. Ball watching and panicking leaving huge gaps for attackers to fill. Lucky Fulham were below average and couldn't manage to score 3 goals like everyone else has. NC get a defence coach! Well done Fonte! Punch good. Lallana no use inside the half way line. Chaplow would make a good reserve right back? Davies did alright. Lambo ok, might have scored 2 on another day. More relegation form? :( magnette
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4:04pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Little Hitler says...

Relegation form in terms of goals conceded I'm afraid guys, something has to change.

Well done on coming back from the dead, shows we have fight.

Shame on the supporters who left early.
Relegation form in terms of goals conceded I'm afraid guys, something has to change. Well done on coming back from the dead, shows we have fight. Shame on the supporters who left early. Little Hitler
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4:04pm Sun 7 Oct 12

DisplacedFan says...

I thought Guly played well, too. Held onto the ball and took two defenders with him. We did look in disarray several times.
Keep the faith.
I thought Guly played well, too. Held onto the ball and took two defenders with him. We did look in disarray several times. Keep the faith. DisplacedFan
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4:07pm Sun 7 Oct 12

up saints says...

my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw. up saints
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4:08pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

Pleased for fonte came in for some stick this season thought fox deserves a pat on the back kept duff very quiet, we obviously missed Ramirez and clyne and felt sorry for Yoshida obviously not a fullback , the substitution of lambert will get some headlines but he looked heavy legged and like Rodriguez had worked hard up top , let's cut the negativity on this site and for all those fans who made for the exit after fulham scored show some more faith and keep cheering on the saints til the ref blows for full time
Pleased for fonte came in for some stick this season thought fox deserves a pat on the back kept duff very quiet, we obviously missed Ramirez and clyne and felt sorry for Yoshida obviously not a fullback , the substitution of lambert will get some headlines but he looked heavy legged and like Rodriguez had worked hard up top , let's cut the negativity on this site and for all those fans who made for the exit after fulham scored show some more faith and keep cheering on the saints til the ref blows for full time Scarborosaint
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4:31pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintmark1977 says...

With the injuries we had today I would have taken a point at start of play.

I remain a fan of Mr Adkins mainly because of my memories of continual manager changes when the Dark Lord was in charge together with a dislike of our previous experiences with Mr Harry who appears to be suggested as a replacement for Mr Adkins by some posters .

Having said the above Mr Adkins is not helping himself with some truely strange substitution decisions.Having taken off your three best players against Man Unt when winning why make the same mistake again today with Ricky and Punch?

On a slghtly different note am I the only one concerned that Lallana looks well out of sorts at this level?
With the injuries we had today I would have taken a point at start of play. I remain a fan of Mr Adkins mainly because of my memories of continual manager changes when the Dark Lord was in charge together with a dislike of our previous experiences with Mr Harry who appears to be suggested as a replacement for Mr Adkins by some posters . Having said the above Mr Adkins is not helping himself with some truely strange substitution decisions.Having taken off your three best players against Man Unt when winning why make the same mistake again today with Ricky and Punch? On a slghtly different note am I the only one concerned that Lallana looks well out of sorts at this level? saintmark1977
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4:49pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views. Saint 2701
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4:51pm Sun 7 Oct 12

skin2000 says...

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
Yes it is a strange tactic bringing off players who are playing okay and are not injured. We lose all shape and direction once we bring Lambert off.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]Yes it is a strange tactic bringing off players who are playing okay and are not injured. We lose all shape and direction once we bring Lambert off. skin2000
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4:54pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Obviously you have been watching a different team the last 2 seasons or you have stevie wonders glasses on
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Obviously you have been watching a different team the last 2 seasons or you have stevie wonders glasses on Scarborosaint
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4:57pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Little Hitler says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious? Little Hitler
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4:59pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Thornhill Saint says...

We played well today. I thought it was actually a pretty good day to watch. Subs or no subs, it was great to see us not capitualte completely when we lost the lead and they went 2-1 up!

We missed Gaston and Clybe. It was also a real, real shame Richardson had to go off. He has been a revelation. I have been critical of Fox but I thought he did a lot better today.

We have had a steep learning curve are not in the bottom three! Come on U Saints!!!
We played well today. I thought it was actually a pretty good day to watch. Subs or no subs, it was great to see us not capitualte completely when we lost the lead and they went 2-1 up! We missed Gaston and Clybe. It was also a real, real shame Richardson had to go off. He has been a revelation. I have been critical of Fox but I thought he did a lot better today. We have had a steep learning curve are not in the bottom three! Come on U Saints!!! Thornhill Saint
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4:59pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Puddletown Saint says...

Many positives yet still more negatives

Must learn to defend and now getting relly worried about NA at this level

Adam must play up front in a 433 - just wasted in midfield

Any jury out on Jay

Two week break and lets keep smiling

Team for West Ham

Gazza Nath Maya Jose Fox
JWP Spider Davis
Gaston Rickie Adam

Rich Jos Chappers Jay Punch and Emm COYR
Many positives yet still more negatives Must learn to defend and now getting relly worried about NA at this level Adam must play up front in a 433 - just wasted in midfield Any jury out on Jay Two week break and lets keep smiling Team for West Ham Gazza Nath Maya Jose Fox JWP Spider Davis Gaston Rickie Adam Rich Jos Chappers Jay Punch and Emm COYR Puddletown Saint
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5:04pm Sun 7 Oct 12

JohnItaly says...

7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist. JohnItaly
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5:08pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Mush On The Beach says...

Linesman wrote:
Is it a fitness thing?

Why can't they last for 90 minutes?
I notice you can’t say WE when it comes to Southampton but you always offer your opinions on here all the same which is your entitlement.
I will reciprocate my right and and answer your question referring to the real THEY who I believe your main affection is for (correct me if I am wrong).

I think it is because THEY (Poopey) keep loaning in different players at the last minute who have not necessarily trained hard due to them being excess to requirements at their present club.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Is it a fitness thing? Why can't they last for 90 minutes?[/p][/quote]I notice you can’t say WE when it comes to Southampton but you always offer your opinions on here all the same which is your entitlement. I will reciprocate my right and and answer your question referring to the real THEY who I believe your main affection is for (correct me if I am wrong). I think it is because THEY (Poopey) keep loaning in different players at the last minute who have not necessarily trained hard due to them being excess to requirements at their present club. Mush On The Beach
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5:08pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Rising_Son says...

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
Why is it that pessimists think that pessimism is the same as realism?
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]Why is it that pessimists think that pessimism is the same as realism? Rising_Son
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5:09pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
Someone who talks sense.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]Someone who talks sense. Saint 2701
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5:11pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Many positives yet still more negatives

Must learn to defend and now getting relly worried about NA at this level

Adam must play up front in a 433 - just wasted in midfield

Any jury out on Jay

Two week break and lets keep smiling

Team for West Ham

Gazza Nath Maya Jose Fox
JWP Spider Davis
Gaston Rickie Adam

Rich Jos Chappers Jay Punch and Emm COYR
Totally agree Adam better In a free role with Ricky up front can't play Jay rod and Ricky in this system one or the other , missing cork too
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: Many positives yet still more negatives Must learn to defend and now getting relly worried about NA at this level Adam must play up front in a 433 - just wasted in midfield Any jury out on Jay Two week break and lets keep smiling Team for West Ham Gazza Nath Maya Jose Fox JWP Spider Davis Gaston Rickie Adam Rich Jos Chappers Jay Punch and Emm COYR[/p][/quote]Totally agree Adam better In a free role with Ricky up front can't play Jay rod and Ricky in this system one or the other , missing cork too Scarborosaint
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5:13pm Sun 7 Oct 12

hdfw09 says...

Very big fan of Adkins. Yet he lost more credibility today. Bad that Clyne and Gaston were out, and losing Richardson. However, Craplow (misspelling intended) and Guly as subs were atrocious moves. What the heck is he thinking? Fonte has proven he can't play defense, but at least he can score with his head. Finally proven useful.

Saints need to work on passing and positioning. We know the defense is horrible. So focus on keeping possession and making smart passes. Lucky to leave this game with 1 point.

Very concerned about relegation, but remain focused on supporting the Saints.
COYR
Very big fan of Adkins. Yet he lost more credibility today. Bad that Clyne and Gaston were out, and losing Richardson. However, Craplow (misspelling intended) and Guly as subs were atrocious moves. What the heck is he thinking? Fonte has proven he can't play defense, but at least he can score with his head. Finally proven useful. Saints need to work on passing and positioning. We know the defense is horrible. So focus on keeping possession and making smart passes. Lucky to leave this game with 1 point. Very concerned about relegation, but remain focused on supporting the Saints. COYR hdfw09
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5:14pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Rising_Son says...

Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well. Rising_Son
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5:19pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.
Well! The second goal came from his wing did it not? But collectively he was as bad as the other defenders, if people think that is playing well they should support pompey!
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.[/p][/quote]Well! The second goal came from his wing did it not? But collectively he was as bad as the other defenders, if people think that is playing well they should support pompey! Saint 2701
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5:21pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saintsteve7 says...

Our current defensive frailties are a mixture of bad luck, nativity, lack of concentration and a lack leadership. But one thing we are not lacking is effort and hard graft. The stats say saints have covered more miles than any other prem team so far.

I just hope we don't give up our attacking philosophy and do a Stoke City ( scored 6, conceded 5) as that would just bore the hell out of everyone. We need to try and get the balance right as I believe Swansea did last season.

It will come people just have a little faith and enjoy the journey!
Our current defensive frailties are a mixture of bad luck, nativity, lack of concentration and a lack leadership. But one thing we are not lacking is effort and hard graft. The stats say saints have covered more miles than any other prem team so far. I just hope we don't give up our attacking philosophy and do a Stoke City ( scored 6, conceded 5) as that would just bore the hell out of everyone. We need to try and get the balance right as I believe Swansea did last season. It will come people just have a little faith and enjoy the journey! Saintsteve7
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5:22pm Sun 7 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager! dadofmy3sons
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5:28pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Jog on you fool.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager![/p][/quote]Jog on you fool. Saint 2701
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5:30pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Rising_Son says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.
Well! The second goal came from his wing did it not? But collectively he was as bad as the other defenders, if people think that is playing well they should support pompey!
I don't quite get the logic behind suggesting that people who think he's playing well should support pompey. Could you explain?
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.[/p][/quote]Well! The second goal came from his wing did it not? But collectively he was as bad as the other defenders, if people think that is playing well they should support pompey![/p][/quote]I don't quite get the logic behind suggesting that people who think he's playing well should support pompey. Could you explain? Rising_Son
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5:37pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face! saintshorse101
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5:37pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Spot on my friend, nail on the head stuff, it must have been a tough decision to make whether it was to be JRod or Lambo, I don't think it was a fitness thing as JRod was nursing a dodgy ankle, Lambo had enough chances to finish the game off but it wasn't ever going to be his day, I am glad I didn't have to make the decision. I would probably have tried Mayuka rather than Chappers but that is hypothetical now, we got a point we are up to 17th, think positive people leave the nasty stuff to the blue phew. The real supporters aren't the ones that walked out after Fulhams 2nd goal, the real ones are ones that stayed and raised their voices and roared on the team to get the equaliser. They saw the best part of the game which, had we had any run of the ball, could actually have won.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager![/p][/quote]Spot on my friend, nail on the head stuff, it must have been a tough decision to make whether it was to be JRod or Lambo, I don't think it was a fitness thing as JRod was nursing a dodgy ankle, Lambo had enough chances to finish the game off but it wasn't ever going to be his day, I am glad I didn't have to make the decision. I would probably have tried Mayuka rather than Chappers but that is hypothetical now, we got a point we are up to 17th, think positive people leave the nasty stuff to the blue phew. The real supporters aren't the ones that walked out after Fulhams 2nd goal, the real ones are ones that stayed and raised their voices and roared on the team to get the equaliser. They saw the best part of the game which, had we had any run of the ball, could actually have won. OSPREYSAINT
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5:38pm Sun 7 Oct 12

insane saint says...

too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later insane saint
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5:46pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Jameski says...

Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...
Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly... Jameski
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5:48pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Red n White says...

"If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win"
This seems a good quote for today. We rescued a point in the last minute which is good seeing as we could have come away with nothing. It also moves us out of relegation.
A lot of these players are still gellig together and with a few injuries it was going to be tough.
For those critiising Lallana (or his position) he's got 4 assists this season, which is joint highest alongside mata ad Hazard
"If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win" This seems a good quote for today. We rescued a point in the last minute which is good seeing as we could have come away with nothing. It also moves us out of relegation. A lot of these players are still gellig together and with a few injuries it was going to be tough. For those critiising Lallana (or his position) he's got 4 assists this season, which is joint highest alongside mata ad Hazard Red n White
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5:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
Don't be, we got a point, no need for your negatives plenty enough of them already, if you have positive thoughts, let us hear them they will make a welcome change.
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later[/p][/quote]Don't be, we got a point, no need for your negatives plenty enough of them already, if you have positive thoughts, let us hear them they will make a welcome change. OSPREYSAINT
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5:51pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Brock_and_Roll says...

Ironic that Adkins is coming in for some criticism here for poor tactics.....SFC fans should have popped over to Dean Court when Paul Groves was the manager if they wanted to see the tactical equivalent of comparing University Challenge with TOWIE !.

Much as it pains me to say it, Adkins is one of the more analytical and tactically astute managers in the top flight. The fact that SFC are a bit short at the back (and will be even more so if Richardson has done his knee) is not really his fault.
Ironic that Adkins is coming in for some criticism here for poor tactics.....SFC fans should have popped over to Dean Court when Paul Groves was the manager if they wanted to see the tactical equivalent of comparing University Challenge with TOWIE !. Much as it pains me to say it, Adkins is one of the more analytical and tactically astute managers in the top flight. The fact that SFC are a bit short at the back (and will be even more so if Richardson has done his knee) is not really his fault. Brock_and_Roll
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5:53pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

Jameski wrote:
Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...
congatulations you win the `first person to blame guly` award! you must be so proud. could you in your acceptance speach inform us all how guly played so badly today? and give us a clue as to how you know that NC picks the team?


did you see the game today? did you see guly play well? or had you turned your tv off by then?
[quote][p][bold]Jameski[/bold] wrote: Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...[/p][/quote]congatulations you win the `first person to blame guly` award! you must be so proud. could you in your acceptance speach inform us all how guly played so badly today? and give us a clue as to how you know that NC picks the team? did you see the game today? did you see guly play well? or had you turned your tv off by then? saintshorse101
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5:53pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.
[quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later[/p][/quote]... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more. OSPREYSAINT
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5:55pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Thornhill Saint says...

Jameski wrote:
Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...
Any evidence (particularly as he has not featured in the last two games) for what you are saying. The crowd did sound like they could not believe they had not seen the last of Guly in the Prem when he came on, but then again maybe I am wrong and it was Chaplow:')

For what it's worth I think once he pot in the game worth he played well, and we should be getting behind those who were the Red with a little bit of white and not start criticising from the word go. At least give them a chance to disgrace themselves first!
[quote][p][bold]Jameski[/bold] wrote: Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...[/p][/quote]Any evidence (particularly as he has not featured in the last two games) for what you are saying. The crowd did sound like they could not believe they had not seen the last of Guly in the Prem when he came on, but then again maybe I am wrong and it was Chaplow:') For what it's worth I think once he pot in the game worth he played well, and we should be getting behind those who were the Red with a little bit of white and not start criticising from the word go. At least give them a chance to disgrace themselves first! Thornhill Saint
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6:00pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Thornhill Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.
I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought

1) we were crap and will be relegated
2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us.
3) and that they played below par.
4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later[/p][/quote]... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.[/p][/quote]I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought 1) we were crap and will be relegated 2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us. 3) and that they played below par. 4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce. Thornhill Saint
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6:06pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Ironic that Adkins is coming in for some criticism here for poor tactics.....SFC fans should have popped over to Dean Court when Paul Groves was the manager if they wanted to see the tactical equivalent of comparing University Challenge with TOWIE !.

Much as it pains me to say it, Adkins is one of the more analytical and tactically astute managers in the top flight. The fact that SFC are a bit short at the back (and will be even more so if Richardson has done his knee) is not really his fault.
Thanks, there is a fine line when making decisions in the heat of the battle, any one of them could have been the one that changed the game, any one of them can turn you from hero to zero in one kick of the ball.
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote: Ironic that Adkins is coming in for some criticism here for poor tactics.....SFC fans should have popped over to Dean Court when Paul Groves was the manager if they wanted to see the tactical equivalent of comparing University Challenge with TOWIE !. Much as it pains me to say it, Adkins is one of the more analytical and tactically astute managers in the top flight. The fact that SFC are a bit short at the back (and will be even more so if Richardson has done his knee) is not really his fault.[/p][/quote]Thanks, there is a fine line when making decisions in the heat of the battle, any one of them could have been the one that changed the game, any one of them can turn you from hero to zero in one kick of the ball. OSPREYSAINT
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6:10pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Jameski says...

NC for everything he has done for our club, also likes to interfere with certain things. If you know anyone who works in the club they will tell you the same things. The man is like a dictator and only allows things to be done his way. Him wanting guly to play comes from having done all the legwork to sign him, just like with Ramirez (who is a hell of a lot better). I'm proud to be a saints supporter and fully back the club. Just saying theres a lot more to NC than people realise...
NC for everything he has done for our club, also likes to interfere with certain things. If you know anyone who works in the club they will tell you the same things. The man is like a dictator and only allows things to be done his way. Him wanting guly to play comes from having done all the legwork to sign him, just like with Ramirez (who is a hell of a lot better). I'm proud to be a saints supporter and fully back the club. Just saying theres a lot more to NC than people realise... Jameski
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6:11pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.
I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought

1) we were crap and will be relegated
2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us.
3) and that they played below par.
4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.
They sound as positive as some of our heroes on here, glad it's not just us.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later[/p][/quote]... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.[/p][/quote]I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought 1) we were crap and will be relegated 2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us. 3) and that they played below par. 4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.[/p][/quote]They sound as positive as some of our heroes on here, glad it's not just us. OSPREYSAINT
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6:14pm Sun 7 Oct 12

hates the skates says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
finally some one agrees wit me we only got promoted luckily cause he alkmost fu@ked that up aswell, he is seriously deluded about whats going on around him and if their tired that he has to take our best players of and "throw" the games, thats down to his training not bein good enough and utimately shows he is crap. though most people on here seemed to like playin the mighty donny rovers if they want him in charge!!!
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]finally some one agrees wit me we only got promoted luckily cause he alkmost fu@ked that up aswell, he is seriously deluded about whats going on around him and if their tired that he has to take our best players of and "throw" the games, thats down to his training not bein good enough and utimately shows he is crap. though most people on here seemed to like playin the mighty donny rovers if they want him in charge!!! hates the skates
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6:14pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Jog on you fool.
Is that really necessary? The rules do say don't post anything that is abusive.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager![/p][/quote]Jog on you fool.[/p][/quote]Is that really necessary? The rules do say don't post anything that is abusive. OSPREYSAINT
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6:18pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.
Foxy didn't do badly, he was left with no cover for about 15 minutes in the 2nd half when Lala went missing, sadly that was when they scored both of their goals.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.[/p][/quote]Foxy didn't do badly, he was left with no cover for about 15 minutes in the 2nd half when Lala went missing, sadly that was when they scored both of their goals. OSPREYSAINT
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6:22pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping' Saint 2701
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6:24pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

hates the skates wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
finally some one agrees wit me we only got promoted luckily cause he alkmost fu@ked that up aswell, he is seriously deluded about whats going on around him and if their tired that he has to take our best players of and "throw" the games, thats down to his training not bein good enough and utimately shows he is crap. though most people on here seemed to like playin the mighty donny rovers if they want him in charge!!!
The reason it has taken so long maybe is because you have got it totally wrong?
[quote][p][bold]hates the skates[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]finally some one agrees wit me we only got promoted luckily cause he alkmost fu@ked that up aswell, he is seriously deluded about whats going on around him and if their tired that he has to take our best players of and "throw" the games, thats down to his training not bein good enough and utimately shows he is crap. though most people on here seemed to like playin the mighty donny rovers if they want him in charge!!![/p][/quote]The reason it has taken so long maybe is because you have got it totally wrong? OSPREYSAINT
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6:26pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
More abuse to start with, not worth reading the rest.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'[/p][/quote]More abuse to start with, not worth reading the rest. OSPREYSAINT
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6:27pm Sun 7 Oct 12

jammo1974 says...

To all the fans who think Adkins should go, we get a new manager in and back room staff, he wants new players which he can't have cos the window is shut! New ideas so the team have no idea what they are doing, lose more games, we've got more chance sticking with nige, everyone moaned when we had ten managers in ten years so what's changed, Blackpool kept holloway and as much as I dislike him they are doing ok at the mo so please stop the Adkins out sh,te
To all the fans who think Adkins should go, we get a new manager in and back room staff, he wants new players which he can't have cos the window is shut! New ideas so the team have no idea what they are doing, lose more games, we've got more chance sticking with nige, everyone moaned when we had ten managers in ten years so what's changed, Blackpool kept holloway and as much as I dislike him they are doing ok at the mo so please stop the Adkins out sh,te jammo1974
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6:28pm Sun 7 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off.
But never confuse effort with achievement.
Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing!
To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days
You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands.
I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield.
Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.
No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off. But never confuse effort with achievement. Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing! To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands. I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield. Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals. TEBOURBA
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6:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later
... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.
I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought

1) we were crap and will be relegated
2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us.
3) and that they played below par.
4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.
Yes, I can see why Ruiz is so anonymous, particularly as he has Bryan on the back of the shirt, took me ages to fathom that one out and yes he wasn't that good was he? Lucky for us that Berbatov and a couple of their other better players were absent. They didn't look like a top ten club but the League Table doesn't lie.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]insane saint[/bold] wrote: too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later[/p][/quote]... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.[/p][/quote]I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought 1) we were crap and will be relegated 2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us. 3) and that they played below par. 4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.[/p][/quote]Yes, I can see why Ruiz is so anonymous, particularly as he has Bryan on the back of the shirt, took me ages to fathom that one out and yes he wasn't that good was he? Lucky for us that Berbatov and a couple of their other better players were absent. They didn't look like a top ten club but the League Table doesn't lie. OSPREYSAINT
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6:46pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Velleity says...

Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated. Velleity
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7:01pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
i tell you what, i will continue to watch saints with a positive outlook and hoping for wins. and will watch each player closely so that i can accurately assess each of their preformances, i will then comment on them from an unprejudiced view point. fox did well today, he got stuck in and made some good tackles, he attacked well but not to excess and didnt get caught out of position, that seems fair to me. fonte was good aswell, scoring 2 goals winning the ball and making good passes. jos had a poor game, he got caught ball watching, got out of position and looked out of form. maya again started well in the centre of defence however when he was forced to play at right back he looked hopelessly out of position and made some bad errors. so with 2 of the back 4 having bad games i am surprised we didnt conceed more goals.
you however can continue to watch games with your biased view of certain players. we all know you dont rate fox and like to `laugh in his face` so i am not shocked that you dont think he played well! i think you will find that most thought that fox played well today and will get good ratings in the press, but still everyone else is wrong and you and a couple of village idiots are right!
if we cant operate without RL as you suggest then we better hope he doesn`t pick up any injurys or suspensions! i however think we have enough players to cover him, i do hope though he doesn`t get injured, so taking him off towards the end of a game when he is exhausted which could prevent injurys is a good thing then!
btw not a lot of people do agree with you! just because the same people post the same thing over and over again doesn`t make them or you right, it just means that you are:
a, agreeing with yourself (narcissistic)
b, agreeing with poopey fans (oh dear)
please keep up your witty and well thought out ripostes as i do so enjoy your insults!
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'[/p][/quote]i tell you what, i will continue to watch saints with a positive outlook and hoping for wins. and will watch each player closely so that i can accurately assess each of their preformances, i will then comment on them from an unprejudiced view point. fox did well today, he got stuck in and made some good tackles, he attacked well but not to excess and didnt get caught out of position, that seems fair to me. fonte was good aswell, scoring 2 goals winning the ball and making good passes. jos had a poor game, he got caught ball watching, got out of position and looked out of form. maya again started well in the centre of defence however when he was forced to play at right back he looked hopelessly out of position and made some bad errors. so with 2 of the back 4 having bad games i am surprised we didnt conceed more goals. you however can continue to watch games with your biased view of certain players. we all know you dont rate fox and like to `laugh in his face` so i am not shocked that you dont think he played well! i think you will find that most thought that fox played well today and will get good ratings in the press, but still everyone else is wrong and you and a couple of village idiots are right! if we cant operate without RL as you suggest then we better hope he doesn`t pick up any injurys or suspensions! i however think we have enough players to cover him, i do hope though he doesn`t get injured, so taking him off towards the end of a game when he is exhausted which could prevent injurys is a good thing then! btw not a lot of people do agree with you! just because the same people post the same thing over and over again doesn`t make them or you right, it just means that you are: a, agreeing with yourself (narcissistic) b, agreeing with poopey fans (oh dear) please keep up your witty and well thought out ripostes as i do so enjoy your insults! saintshorse101
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7:13pm Sun 7 Oct 12

NC Fan4Life says...

Strange week !
NC has sacked all the programme sellers, shut the site at Stapleford and set up a loan facility in the caribean. In this mood NA will be lucky to survive !
Fully fit squad except Cork yet injuries to key players on matchday just before an international break ?
Why does NA make changes when you are hanging onto a slender lead ? 'If it ain't Broke don't fix it'. The changes upset our pattern, I don't accept that Ricky and Punch were tierd they should all be able to last 90 minutes.
On the positive generally not a bad performance but we must learn how to defend and concentrate the full game. A new defensive coach may help as we can't sign any defenders. I think we may need to start playing ugly to pick up some points and earn the right to play our football. West Ham and Brom away and Spurs at home, we need 5 points somehow as time is running out and relegation battle now on.
Strange week ! NC has sacked all the programme sellers, shut the site at Stapleford and set up a loan facility in the caribean. In this mood NA will be lucky to survive ! Fully fit squad except Cork yet injuries to key players on matchday just before an international break ? Why does NA make changes when you are hanging onto a slender lead ? 'If it ain't Broke don't fix it'. The changes upset our pattern, I don't accept that Ricky and Punch were tierd they should all be able to last 90 minutes. On the positive generally not a bad performance but we must learn how to defend and concentrate the full game. A new defensive coach may help as we can't sign any defenders. I think we may need to start playing ugly to pick up some points and earn the right to play our football. West Ham and Brom away and Spurs at home, we need 5 points somehow as time is running out and relegation battle now on. NC Fan4Life
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7:33pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintmac says...

Agree with your comments TEBOURBA.
However attractive our football is at times Saints are always going to be
undone by their fragile defense. Again
we see the result of not concentrating
on improving the defense in the close season and now we have lost Richardson who has been a revelation
this season.By Jan it will be too late.
Again I do not understand NA's tactics.
This looked like Man Utd all over again
with questionable substitutions.
Yes the team give 100 per cent effort
but there is just not the defensive quality
to carry them through 90 mins.
I feel this is a realistic view of where
the team are at the moment and it
has left me,a supporter for over 60 years, very disappointed and frustrated.
Agree with your comments TEBOURBA. However attractive our football is at times Saints are always going to be undone by their fragile defense. Again we see the result of not concentrating on improving the defense in the close season and now we have lost Richardson who has been a revelation this season.By Jan it will be too late. Again I do not understand NA's tactics. This looked like Man Utd all over again with questionable substitutions. Yes the team give 100 per cent effort but there is just not the defensive quality to carry them through 90 mins. I feel this is a realistic view of where the team are at the moment and it has left me,a supporter for over 60 years, very disappointed and frustrated. saintmac
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7:35pm Sun 7 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ??? warrens 76
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7:41pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Velleity says...

I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor.

Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness.

Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.
I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor. Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness. Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so. Velleity
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7:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12

sledgerite says...

does anyone know why work has stopped at stapleford,have the contracters been paid whatever is due,is that what the loan is all about hope were not saddling ourselves with a mass of debt for the future.
does anyone know why work has stopped at stapleford,have the contracters been paid whatever is due,is that what the loan is all about hope were not saddling ourselves with a mass of debt for the future. sledgerite
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7:56pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Velleity says...

sledgerite wrote:
does anyone know why work has stopped at stapleford,have the contracters been paid whatever is due,is that what the loan is all about hope were not saddling ourselves with a mass of debt for the future.
No-one knows, no-one knows and no-one knows might well be a accurate answers.

Lots of people on here are happy to guess and extrapolate but I think a good summary is "no-one knows."
[quote][p][bold]sledgerite[/bold] wrote: does anyone know why work has stopped at stapleford,have the contracters been paid whatever is due,is that what the loan is all about hope were not saddling ourselves with a mass of debt for the future.[/p][/quote]No-one knows, no-one knows and no-one knows might well be a accurate answers. Lots of people on here are happy to guess and extrapolate but I think a good summary is "no-one knows." Velleity
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8:05pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Abbey Saint says...

It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time Abbey Saint
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8:08pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
like
[quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like saintshorse101
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8:21pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???
Sky and a Division One Ticket Office are the answer.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???[/p][/quote]Sky and a Division One Ticket Office are the answer. OSPREYSAINT
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8:21pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
like
Ditto Thumbs Up from me
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]Ditto Thumbs Up from me OSPREYSAINT
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8:27pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor.

Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness.

Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.
Absolutely, but he seems to be doing more than his fair share of fetching and carrying, he is supposed to be a striker, but he pops up all over the place, and one particular defensive tackle comes to mind in the first half, heavens know why he was even in that position but I am mighty glad he was. As I recall he won most of the headers against Hangeland, whereas JRod seemed end up on his butt every time.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor. Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness. Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, but he seems to be doing more than his fair share of fetching and carrying, he is supposed to be a striker, but he pops up all over the place, and one particular defensive tackle comes to mind in the first half, heavens know why he was even in that position but I am mighty glad he was. As I recall he won most of the headers against Hangeland, whereas JRod seemed end up on his butt every time. OSPREYSAINT
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8:34pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off.
But never confuse effort with achievement.
Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing!
To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days
You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands.
I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield.
Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.
Good grief, you made a good post, wish you would stick to that more often, my thought on the skipper bit matches yours, Lallana isn't the answer, the one making the most noise and directing operations was Jose Fonte, but Steve Davis might be the answer when he gets more established, as you say it needs someone that has the respect of the other players and he hasn't been here long enough.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off. But never confuse effort with achievement. Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing! To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands. I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield. Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.[/p][/quote]Good grief, you made a good post, wish you would stick to that more often, my thought on the skipper bit matches yours, Lallana isn't the answer, the one making the most noise and directing operations was Jose Fonte, but Steve Davis might be the answer when he gets more established, as you say it needs someone that has the respect of the other players and he hasn't been here long enough. OSPREYSAINT
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8:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs. Confucious
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8:40pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Still looking for reasons for todays problems, had a look at a re-run of the First Half, and the most striking thing so far was the yellow card for Hoover for handball, it was not justified and it did affect the way Hoover played the rest of the half, he was tentative rather than aggresive, and looked well out of sorts. I will watch the 2nd half later and take stock of where it all went wrong, and where it suddenly went right!
Still looking for reasons for todays problems, had a look at a re-run of the First Half, and the most striking thing so far was the yellow card for Hoover for handball, it was not justified and it did affect the way Hoover played the rest of the half, he was tentative rather than aggresive, and looked well out of sorts. I will watch the 2nd half later and take stock of where it all went wrong, and where it suddenly went right! OSPREYSAINT
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8:42pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
Ha. Ha. I don't always understand your posts but you do make good sense on this occasion.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.[/p][/quote]Ha. Ha. I don't always understand your posts but you do make good sense on this occasion. OSPREYSAINT
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8:46pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Thornhill Saint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor.

Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness.

Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.
Absolutely, but he seems to be doing more than his fair share of fetching and carrying, he is supposed to be a striker, but he pops up all over the place, and one particular defensive tackle comes to mind in the first half, heavens know why he was even in that position but I am mighty glad he was. As I recall he won most of the headers against Hangeland, whereas JRod seemed end up on his butt every time.
J rod ending up on his but (whether challenged or not) was a bit of a problem.today.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor. Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness. Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, but he seems to be doing more than his fair share of fetching and carrying, he is supposed to be a striker, but he pops up all over the place, and one particular defensive tackle comes to mind in the first half, heavens know why he was even in that position but I am mighty glad he was. As I recall he won most of the headers against Hangeland, whereas JRod seemed end up on his butt every time.[/p][/quote]J rod ending up on his but (whether challenged or not) was a bit of a problem.today. Thornhill Saint
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8:47pm Sun 7 Oct 12

mack chinnon says...

Jameski wrote:
NC for everything he has done for our club, also likes to interfere with certain things. If you know anyone who works in the club they will tell you the same things. The man is like a dictator and only allows things to be done his way. Him wanting guly to play comes from having done all the legwork to sign him, just like with Ramirez (who is a hell of a lot better). I'm proud to be a saints supporter and fully back the club. Just saying theres a lot more to NC than people realise...
Ive heard the same storys about Mr Cortese
Although lots of the speculation when Pardew left was as to wether he could keep it in his trousers or the team were unfit I often wondered if Gully was the reason Pardew left. After seeing Gulys first game for Saints after Pardew had been sacked...........
[quote][p][bold]Jameski[/bold] wrote: NC for everything he has done for our club, also likes to interfere with certain things. If you know anyone who works in the club they will tell you the same things. The man is like a dictator and only allows things to be done his way. Him wanting guly to play comes from having done all the legwork to sign him, just like with Ramirez (who is a hell of a lot better). I'm proud to be a saints supporter and fully back the club. Just saying theres a lot more to NC than people realise...[/p][/quote]Ive heard the same storys about Mr Cortese Although lots of the speculation when Pardew left was as to wether he could keep it in his trousers or the team were unfit I often wondered if Gully was the reason Pardew left. After seeing Gulys first game for Saints after Pardew had been sacked........... mack chinnon
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8:54pm Sun 7 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Bollucks to you mate everyone is free to post on here so stick your head up your own arse and look for your brains.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Bollucks to you mate everyone is free to post on here so stick your head up your own arse and look for your brains. hedge end bob
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9:31pm Sun 7 Oct 12

SnapperSaint says...

hedge end bob wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Bollucks to you mate everyone is free to post on here so stick your head up your own arse and look for your brains.
calm down now guys, perhaps you should take aforementioned medication...peace to all fellow supporters...or peace off! please...
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Bollucks to you mate everyone is free to post on here so stick your head up your own arse and look for your brains.[/p][/quote]calm down now guys, perhaps you should take aforementioned medication...peace to all fellow supporters...or peace off! please... SnapperSaint
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9:36pm Sun 7 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
that would be moanday or whingeday.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.[/p][/quote]that would be moanday or whingeday. angus mc coatup
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9:51pm Sun 7 Oct 12

loosehead says...

fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated? loosehead
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9:56pm Sun 7 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
we!
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]we! angus mc coatup
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10:02pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:02pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Confucious says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
that would be moanday or whingeday.
Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.[/p][/quote]that would be moanday or whingeday.[/p][/quote]Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud. Confucious
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10:12pm Sun 7 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

Confucious wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
that would be moanday or whingeday.
Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.
there might even be a tunnel at the end of the light.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.[/p][/quote]that would be moanday or whingeday.[/p][/quote]Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.[/p][/quote]there might even be a tunnel at the end of the light. angus mc coatup
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10:12pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
That would lead to carnage in the Kingsland if we did that today!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]That would lead to carnage in the Kingsland if we did that today! OSPREYSAINT
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10:15pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments. OSPREYSAINT
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10:16pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Velleity says...

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear.

Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing.

It's an "own goal"not a "home goal".

The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals.

As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment.

Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football. Velleity
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10:17pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall
y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though. Baddesley Bill
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10:20pm Sun 7 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
we!
Don't make the mistake of thinking LH is a skate, he may sometimes post like one but he is a homer. (no homophobic).
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]we![/p][/quote]Don't make the mistake of thinking LH is a skate, he may sometimes post like one but he is a homer. (no homophobic). OSPREYSAINT
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10:31pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Saint. says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Idiot!
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Idiot! Saint.
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10:34pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall

y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.
Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.[/p][/quote]Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:34pm Sun 7 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
agreed!
anyone is allowed to comment on here by the echo but if you want to post please do some basic research about the subject you are posting about. how are `we` conceding goals yet a defenders scoring for us? what on earth does that mean? do you not know that the multi-ball system used by many clubs does not mean lots of balls on the pitch at the same time! CB`s often go forwards as Velleity says and the full backs cover, but that dosent mean that our oponents can attack us and score against us with another ball. i have read some really stupid comments on here today of which this is just one
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]agreed! anyone is allowed to comment on here by the echo but if you want to post please do some basic research about the subject you are posting about. how are `we` conceding goals yet a defenders scoring for us? what on earth does that mean? do you not know that the multi-ball system used by many clubs does not mean lots of balls on the pitch at the same time! CB`s often go forwards as Velleity says and the full backs cover, but that dosent mean that our oponents can attack us and score against us with another ball. i have read some really stupid comments on here today of which this is just one saintshorse101
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10:39pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall


y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.
Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.
My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.[/p][/quote]Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.[/p][/quote]My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O) Baddesley Bill
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10:42pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall



y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.
Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.
My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)
Try bribery :)
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.[/p][/quote]Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.[/p][/quote]My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)[/p][/quote]Try bribery :) Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:43pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
agreed!
anyone is allowed to comment on here by the echo but if you want to post please do some basic research about the subject you are posting about. how are `we` conceding goals yet a defenders scoring for us? what on earth does that mean? do you not know that the multi-ball system used by many clubs does not mean lots of balls on the pitch at the same time! CB`s often go forwards as Velleity says and the full backs cover, but that dosent mean that our oponents can attack us and score against us with another ball. i have read some really stupid comments on here today of which this is just one
The w@nkers and skunts are out of force tonight. Fuckem all.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]agreed! anyone is allowed to comment on here by the echo but if you want to post please do some basic research about the subject you are posting about. how are `we` conceding goals yet a defenders scoring for us? what on earth does that mean? do you not know that the multi-ball system used by many clubs does not mean lots of balls on the pitch at the same time! CB`s often go forwards as Velleity says and the full backs cover, but that dosent mean that our oponents can attack us and score against us with another ball. i have read some really stupid comments on here today of which this is just one[/p][/quote]The w@nkers and skunts are out of force tonight. Fuckem all. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:51pm Sun 7 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall




y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.
Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.
My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)
Try bribery :)
I'll tell her you have invited us to a all included corporate experience next time..that should do the trick! :O)
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.[/p][/quote]Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.[/p][/quote]My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)[/p][/quote]Try bribery :)[/p][/quote]I'll tell her you have invited us to a all included corporate experience next time..that should do the trick! :O) Baddesley Bill
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11:36pm Sun 7 Oct 12

promised land says...

Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.
Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out. promised land
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11:54pm Sun 7 Oct 12

St Retford says...

Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly. St Retford
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12:03am Mon 8 Oct 12

randre says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Jog on you fool.
Dadofmy3sobs = good post
Saint 2701 = foolish post and silly comment.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager![/p][/quote]Jog on you fool.[/p][/quote]Dadofmy3sobs = good post Saint 2701 = foolish post and silly comment. randre
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12:05am Mon 8 Oct 12

randre says...

randre wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!
Jog on you fool.
Dadofmy3sobs = good post
Saint 2701 = foolish post and silly comment.
3sons - not 3sobs!! My fingers don't know what keys to hit again, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Any of the above posters at the game? Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks. Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase. Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do. It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time. Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately. Real fans are supporters too. That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager![/p][/quote]Jog on you fool.[/p][/quote]Dadofmy3sobs = good post Saint 2701 = foolish post and silly comment.[/p][/quote]3sons - not 3sobs!! My fingers don't know what keys to hit again, sorry. randre
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12:11am Mon 8 Oct 12

randre says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Pardon?

I am happy for people to voice there opinions but don't start calling other fans childish names if they still have faith in our manager.

Fine, you don't want him, that is clear. I, however remember nothing positive the last time we kept changing managers. But that is my opinion. I won't call you a bum boy, or whatever childish term you used, just because your view is different.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Pardon? I am happy for people to voice there opinions but don't start calling other fans childish names if they still have faith in our manager. Fine, you don't want him, that is clear. I, however remember nothing positive the last time we kept changing managers. But that is my opinion. I won't call you a bum boy, or whatever childish term you used, just because your view is different. randre
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12:17am Mon 8 Oct 12

petethephantom says...

watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on
I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending
Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots,
also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect
just some thoughts
Have faith, i do I hope you do too
COYR
watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR petethephantom
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12:27am Mon 8 Oct 12

randre says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support?

Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'[/p][/quote]mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support? Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child. randre
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12:45am Mon 8 Oct 12

St Retford says...

petethephantom wrote:
watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on
I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending
Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots,
also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect
just some thoughts
Have faith, i do I hope you do too
COYR
Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions.

1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok.

2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could.

3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off.

But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.
[quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR[/p][/quote]Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break. St Retford
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12:54am Mon 8 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

St Retford wrote:
petethephantom wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR
Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.
well said retford.
i to would have gone to aus and was in the process until ill health put a stop to it.
i massivley respect our fans from abroad, getting up in the early hours to watch or even just listen shows what true fans they are.
however we have some fans who just want to moan and groan, which is a shame as if they put the same effort into supporting instead st marys would be rocking! oh no wait most of the moaners wouldnt even know where st marys is!
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR[/p][/quote]Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.[/p][/quote]well said retford. i to would have gone to aus and was in the process until ill health put a stop to it. i massivley respect our fans from abroad, getting up in the early hours to watch or even just listen shows what true fans they are. however we have some fans who just want to moan and groan, which is a shame as if they put the same effort into supporting instead st marys would be rocking! oh no wait most of the moaners wouldnt even know where st marys is! saintshorse101
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1:07am Mon 8 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

I want to rant about the so called supporters that start leaving before the whistle is blown to end the game . That is their privilage but when they stop and stand at the top of the stairs so that the supporters that want to see the game cant, THERE A F..CKING MENACE. the steward just let them stand there until we started shouting at them to bugger off home or go and sit down. THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY HOME GAME IN BLOCK 4 ITCHEN NORTH. If you are one of these suporters please take note we want to see all the game even if we are 6...0 down. Thank you.
I want to rant about the so called supporters that start leaving before the whistle is blown to end the game . That is their privilage but when they stop and stand at the top of the stairs so that the supporters that want to see the game cant, THERE A F..CKING MENACE. the steward just let them stand there until we started shouting at them to bugger off home or go and sit down. THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY HOME GAME IN BLOCK 4 ITCHEN NORTH. If you are one of these suporters please take note we want to see all the game even if we are 6...0 down. Thank you. hedge end bob
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1:09am Mon 8 Oct 12

hedge end bob says...

P S. Well done lads for fighting back and geting a point.
P S. Well done lads for fighting back and geting a point. hedge end bob
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1:12am Mon 8 Oct 12

petethephantom says...

hedge end bob wrote:
I want to rant about the so called supporters that start leaving before the whistle is blown to end the game . That is their privilage but when they stop and stand at the top of the stairs so that the supporters that want to see the game cant, THERE A F..CKING MENACE. the steward just let them stand there until we started shouting at them to bugger off home or go and sit down. THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY HOME GAME IN BLOCK 4 ITCHEN NORTH. If you are one of these suporters please take note we want to see all the game even if we are 6...0 down. Thank you.
i saw that... they showed that on tv as well.... i could not believe it.... 1 goal and draw and we got it... well anyway some beat to a different drum, thats what makes the world go round
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: I want to rant about the so called supporters that start leaving before the whistle is blown to end the game . That is their privilage but when they stop and stand at the top of the stairs so that the supporters that want to see the game cant, THERE A F..CKING MENACE. the steward just let them stand there until we started shouting at them to bugger off home or go and sit down. THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY HOME GAME IN BLOCK 4 ITCHEN NORTH. If you are one of these suporters please take note we want to see all the game even if we are 6...0 down. Thank you.[/p][/quote]i saw that... they showed that on tv as well.... i could not believe it.... 1 goal and draw and we got it... well anyway some beat to a different drum, thats what makes the world go round petethephantom
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1:20am Mon 8 Oct 12

petethephantom says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
St Retford wrote:
petethephantom wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR
Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.
well said retford.
i to would have gone to aus and was in the process until ill health put a stop to it.
i massivley respect our fans from abroad, getting up in the early hours to watch or even just listen shows what true fans they are.
however we have some fans who just want to moan and groan, which is a shame as if they put the same effort into supporting instead st marys would be rocking! oh no wait most of the moaners wouldnt even know where st marys is!
thanks guys thats cool and i agree but players are losing focus for the full 90 minutes so if it is not fitness what is it......... anyway i love my saints and if i could be there more often i would, i will just have to watch on tv otherwise or throu good positive posts, ...
but without being a smartarse is cold here today for a spring day around 18 degrees centigrade and overcast, but will be summer very soon and 30 plus everyday so will be at beach catching waves

co y r from sydney
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethephantom[/bold] wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR[/p][/quote]Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.[/p][/quote]well said retford. i to would have gone to aus and was in the process until ill health put a stop to it. i massivley respect our fans from abroad, getting up in the early hours to watch or even just listen shows what true fans they are. however we have some fans who just want to moan and groan, which is a shame as if they put the same effort into supporting instead st marys would be rocking! oh no wait most of the moaners wouldnt even know where st marys is![/p][/quote]thanks guys thats cool and i agree but players are losing focus for the full 90 minutes so if it is not fitness what is it......... anyway i love my saints and if i could be there more often i would, i will just have to watch on tv otherwise or throu good positive posts, ... but without being a smartarse is cold here today for a spring day around 18 degrees centigrade and overcast, but will be summer very soon and 30 plus everyday so will be at beach catching waves co y r from sydney petethephantom
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6:01am Mon 8 Oct 12

WAPA PIE GO says...

randre wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Pardon?

I am happy for people to voice there opinions but don't start calling other fans childish names if they still have faith in our manager.

Fine, you don't want him, that is clear. I, however remember nothing positive the last time we kept changing managers. But that is my opinion. I won't call you a bum boy, or whatever childish term you used, just because your view is different.
I think the change from Pardew to Adkins was very positive. As would a new manager be.Horses for courses, Adkins is out of his depth and he can keep throwing clichés about , but they are wearing thin.
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Pardon? I am happy for people to voice there opinions but don't start calling other fans childish names if they still have faith in our manager. Fine, you don't want him, that is clear. I, however remember nothing positive the last time we kept changing managers. But that is my opinion. I won't call you a bum boy, or whatever childish term you used, just because your view is different.[/p][/quote]I think the change from Pardew to Adkins was very positive. As would a new manager be.Horses for courses, Adkins is out of his depth and he can keep throwing clichés about , but they are wearing thin. WAPA PIE GO
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6:09am Mon 8 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up.

It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table..

One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th.

One Southampton.. COYR
One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up. It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table.. One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th. One Southampton.. COYR Tirau Dan
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6:17am Mon 8 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Even the rose tinted brigade on here cannot fail to see that NA's tactical ability is being found out at this level.

Lamberts presence on the pitch terrified Fulham, when he was taken off the goal threat was lifted and Fulham took full advantage of this.
If he is being subbed because he is tired, then it's a huge problem that needs to be addressed.
JROD and RL is never going to work, it's one or the other and RL should get the nod every time.

Hopefully Nigel is learning from his mistakes and will adapt a different style and approach before it is too late.
(imho)
Even the rose tinted brigade on here cannot fail to see that NA's tactical ability is being found out at this level. Lamberts presence on the pitch terrified Fulham, when he was taken off the goal threat was lifted and Fulham took full advantage of this. If he is being subbed because he is tired, then it's a huge problem that needs to be addressed. JROD and RL is never going to work, it's one or the other and RL should get the nod every time. Hopefully Nigel is learning from his mistakes and will adapt a different style and approach before it is too late. (imho) costa gaz
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6:33am Mon 8 Oct 12

Tirau Dan says...

costa gaz wrote:
Even the rose tinted brigade on here cannot fail to see that NA's tactical ability is being found out at this level.

Lamberts presence on the pitch terrified Fulham, when he was taken off the goal threat was lifted and Fulham took full advantage of this.
If he is being subbed because he is tired, then it's a huge problem that needs to be addressed.
JROD and RL is never going to work, it's one or the other and RL should get the nod every time.

Hopefully Nigel is learning from his mistakes and will adapt a different style and approach before it is too late.
(imho)
you can say it over and over again. RIcky is 30, he's a smashing player but it's sensible get him off. He was slowing up, not chasing hard in the second and had missed a few sitters... fresh legs to chase the tired is a tried and true tactic used by all managers regularly.. Jrod isn't floating my boat but give him time. Rose coloured glasses went out in the sixties along with bovva boys mods and rockers
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Even the rose tinted brigade on here cannot fail to see that NA's tactical ability is being found out at this level. Lamberts presence on the pitch terrified Fulham, when he was taken off the goal threat was lifted and Fulham took full advantage of this. If he is being subbed because he is tired, then it's a huge problem that needs to be addressed. JROD and RL is never going to work, it's one or the other and RL should get the nod every time. Hopefully Nigel is learning from his mistakes and will adapt a different style and approach before it is too late. (imho)[/p][/quote]you can say it over and over again. RIcky is 30, he's a smashing player but it's sensible get him off. He was slowing up, not chasing hard in the second and had missed a few sitters... fresh legs to chase the tired is a tried and true tactic used by all managers regularly.. Jrod isn't floating my boat but give him time. Rose coloured glasses went out in the sixties along with bovva boys mods and rockers Tirau Dan
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6:39am Mon 8 Oct 12

aldermoorboy says...

Great game, great support, great spirit you will stay up Saints.
Great game, great support, great spirit you will stay up Saints. aldermoorboy
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6:56am Mon 8 Oct 12

SouthamptonLegend says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
Jay rod WAS playing CF!!!!

Idiot. You must have been ball watching all match like Danny Fox!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]Jay rod WAS playing CF!!!! Idiot. You must have been ball watching all match like Danny Fox!! SouthamptonLegend
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8:00am Mon 8 Oct 12

Flashin the pan says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy. Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league. Flashin the pan
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8:00am Mon 8 Oct 12

Flashin the pan says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy. Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league. Flashin the pan
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8:03am Mon 8 Oct 12

Flashin the pan says...

Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy. Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league. Flashin the pan
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8:16am Mon 8 Oct 12

Nicole23 says...

Play Fonte up front from now I say.
Play Fonte up front from now I say. Nicole23
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8:39am Mon 8 Oct 12

Saintsayer II says...

I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser Saintsayer II
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8:44am Mon 8 Oct 12

Optimist says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
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[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]like Optimist
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8:47am Mon 8 Oct 12

chapelsaint says...

A bit off the current thread I am afraid, but considering the Suarez incident, should the punishment for a blatanf dive in the penalty area be the awarding of a penalty at the other end? That would soon put a stop to it!
A bit off the current thread I am afraid, but considering the Suarez incident, should the punishment for a blatanf dive in the penalty area be the awarding of a penalty at the other end? That would soon put a stop to it! chapelsaint
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8:59am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Confucious wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.
that would be moanday or whingeday.
Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.
I suppose, judging by Seed's post just above yours about the early leavers making him stand up to allow them out (Which also annoys me, btw), I suppose match days must always be SATudays, which, alas, are always followed by WUMdays :(
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised. Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football. Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.[/p][/quote]that would be moanday or whingeday.[/p][/quote]Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.[/p][/quote]I suppose, judging by Seed's post just above yours about the early leavers making him stand up to allow them out (Which also annoys me, btw), I suppose match days must always be SATudays, which, alas, are always followed by WUMdays :( Strasbourg Saint
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9:03am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs. Strasbourg Saint
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9:06am Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SouthamptonLegend wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.
Jay rod WAS playing CF!!!!

Idiot. You must have been ball watching all match like Danny Fox!!
Yes I know. Read my post, I said when and if he steps up because I don't think he is deliverying 7m worth at the moment.

You have serious anger issues, I'm guessing you have a 'Jim'll fix it' badge?
[quote][p][bold]SouthamptonLegend[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time. For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.[/p][/quote]Jay rod WAS playing CF!!!! Idiot. You must have been ball watching all match like Danny Fox!![/p][/quote]Yes I know. Read my post, I said when and if he steps up because I don't think he is deliverying 7m worth at the moment. You have serious anger issues, I'm guessing you have a 'Jim'll fix it' badge? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:15am Mon 8 Oct 12

loosehead says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.
You still don't get it do you?
I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot.
I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't .
the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games .
I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you?
I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final.
I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ?
I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not.
I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.[/p][/quote]You still don't get it do you? I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot. I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't . the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games . I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you? I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final. I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ? I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not. I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training loosehead
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9:17am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up.

It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table..

One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th.

One Southampton.. COYR
Agreed, Dan!

Take, say, Thomasupton and 2701 - given that they are two of the worst 'knockers', it's probably appropriate to call them a pair of tits.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up. It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table.. One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th. One Southampton.. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, Dan! Take, say, Thomasupton and 2701 - given that they are two of the worst 'knockers', it's probably appropriate to call them a pair of tits. Strasbourg Saint
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9:24am Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.
You still don't get it do you?
I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot.
I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't .
the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games .
I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you?
I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final.
I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ?
I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not.
I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training
This has been covered 1000 times, but let's make it 1001.

The club did try and sign many defenders. Buttner being one example. Only the Yoshida and Clyne deals came off.

If you have a partlicular beef about it write to NC as he is in charge of the transfers.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.[/p][/quote]You still don't get it do you? I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot. I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't . the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games . I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you? I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final. I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ? I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not. I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training[/p][/quote]This has been covered 1000 times, but let's make it 1001. The club did try and sign many defenders. Buttner being one example. Only the Yoshida and Clyne deals came off. If you have a partlicular beef about it write to NC as he is in charge of the transfers. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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9:25am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

loosehead wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.
You still don't get it do you?
I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot.
I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't .
the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games .
I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you?
I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final.
I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ?
I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not.
I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training
Clyne and Yoshida? Gazza? Boruc?

We DID strengthen the defence.

BUT ........ as NA said several times in August, he was looking to sign at least a couple of CBs. Obviously, there were other irons in the fire (and probably still are).

We all know he wanted Buttner, as well.

So, by all means criticise, but PLEASE stick to the facts.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.[/p][/quote]You still don't get it do you? I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot. I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't . the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games . I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you? I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final. I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ? I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not. I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training[/p][/quote]Clyne and Yoshida? Gazza? Boruc? We DID strengthen the defence. BUT ........ as NA said several times in August, he was looking to sign at least a couple of CBs. Obviously, there were other irons in the fire (and probably still are). We all know he wanted Buttner, as well. So, by all means criticise, but PLEASE stick to the facts. Strasbourg Saint
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9:27am Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

TEBOURBA wrote:
No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off.
But never confuse effort with achievement.
Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing!
To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days
You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands.
I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield.
Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.
I'm pinching myself to ensure I am awake but I agree completely with this post. I don't know the players personally and have no idea who are the leaders or who are the quieter ones.I do sense the lack of a strong personality to govern the proceedings.

Moving on - it was a pity about Ramirez and I agree that Rickie seems to be bearing a much bigger load than a striker should and it is wiping him out before the match ends.

I still believe the essential ingredients are there for beytter performances than this and a much higher position than we have achieved so far. Confidence is the big thing as well, after Villa they were on a high but it was so easily deflated.

I remain utterly convinced we will prevail and finish mid table, but its going to be bumpy for a few weeks yet.
[quote][p][bold]TEBOURBA[/bold] wrote: No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off. But never confuse effort with achievement. Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing! To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands. I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield. Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.[/p][/quote]I'm pinching myself to ensure I am awake but I agree completely with this post. I don't know the players personally and have no idea who are the leaders or who are the quieter ones.I do sense the lack of a strong personality to govern the proceedings. Moving on - it was a pity about Ramirez and I agree that Rickie seems to be bearing a much bigger load than a striker should and it is wiping him out before the match ends. I still believe the essential ingredients are there for beytter performances than this and a much higher position than we have achieved so far. Confidence is the big thing as well, after Villa they were on a high but it was so easily deflated. I remain utterly convinced we will prevail and finish mid table, but its going to be bumpy for a few weeks yet. Alicesdad
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9:28am Mon 8 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1.
You are normally better than this St Ret.
If you are going to make these comments try using some facts
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1. You are normally better than this St Ret. If you are going to make these comments try using some facts costa gaz
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9:31am Mon 8 Oct 12

SaintMax says...

Optimist wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
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This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out.
Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition.

# Tick 'Like' to agree
# f off if you dont
[quote][p][bold]Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out. Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition. # Tick 'Like' to agree # f off if you dont SaintMax
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9:32am Mon 8 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???
Sky and a Division One Ticket Office are the answer.
Sky should not stop fans going...Norwich fill up every week, Stoke, fulham..none of these are supposed to be remotely as big as us..

SFC have to stop blindlyfollowing Hampshire constabulary though, being on the database is a throwback to 80's hooliganism, it does not exist anymore, many times we had good crowds at the dell just from it being a nice day, not everyone wants to pre plan their lives..

I bought my ticket fro Arsenal from Arsenal, walk in the park compared to our system...

I am glad that we are making ever more noise and more people becoming vocally involved, however there are still too many people coming to be "entertained" and offering no passion or support...

Finally next time you sit next to someone who aint' helping out vocally ask why, they should be uncomfortable not us.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???[/p][/quote]Sky and a Division One Ticket Office are the answer.[/p][/quote]Sky should not stop fans going...Norwich fill up every week, Stoke, fulham..none of these are supposed to be remotely as big as us.. SFC have to stop blindlyfollowing Hampshire constabulary though, being on the database is a throwback to 80's hooliganism, it does not exist anymore, many times we had good crowds at the dell just from it being a nice day, not everyone wants to pre plan their lives.. I bought my ticket fro Arsenal from Arsenal, walk in the park compared to our system... I am glad that we are making ever more noise and more people becoming vocally involved, however there are still too many people coming to be "entertained" and offering no passion or support... Finally next time you sit next to someone who aint' helping out vocally ask why, they should be uncomfortable not us. warrens 76
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9:32am Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right.

When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right. When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith. Alicesdad
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9:39am Mon 8 Oct 12

Walter K says...

Great character shown to nick a point from the jaws of defeat. However, I remain convinced that tactical naivety from NA is killing us - he is pushing the panic button far too early in games with his substitutions designed to shut out until the end. It's our attacking threat that is getting us in positions to win games, it's the removal of that threat via his substitutions which is handing the impetus back to our opponents.
At this point we are incapable of coping with sustained periods of attack from teams in this league, therefore we must make THEM defend.
Great character shown to nick a point from the jaws of defeat. However, I remain convinced that tactical naivety from NA is killing us - he is pushing the panic button far too early in games with his substitutions designed to shut out until the end. It's our attacking threat that is getting us in positions to win games, it's the removal of that threat via his substitutions which is handing the impetus back to our opponents. At this point we are incapable of coping with sustained periods of attack from teams in this league, therefore we must make THEM defend. Walter K
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9:41am Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great game, great support, great spirit you will stay up Saints.
FFS buy this man a drink !!
One short sentence for a man, one giant message for SaintsKind !!
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Great game, great support, great spirit you will stay up Saints.[/p][/quote]FFS buy this man a drink !! One short sentence for a man, one giant message for SaintsKind !! Alicesdad
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9:42am Mon 8 Oct 12

costa gaz says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right.

When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.
Wrong.. wrong..wrong..

Gazzaniger Steve davis, Yoshida, Rodriguez and hooiveld never featured in our league one team.
That's 5 out of 11, (who played a part on sat) hardly the same team as 2 seasons ago.

You lot stick together don't you?
Even if one of your gang is totally wrong you'll all agree.....
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right. When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.[/p][/quote]Wrong.. wrong..wrong.. Gazzaniger Steve davis, Yoshida, Rodriguez and hooiveld never featured in our league one team. That's 5 out of 11, (who played a part on sat) hardly the same team as 2 seasons ago. You lot stick together don't you? Even if one of your gang is totally wrong you'll all agree..... costa gaz
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9:44am Mon 8 Oct 12

franiow says...

In the cold light of day, we gained a point after Fulham scored with only 2 min to go.We did this despite having our game plan screwed up by Clyne/Ramirez injuries followed by loss of Richardson. We are 4th from bottom having played 4 top sides. Our season starts here.
In the cold light of day, we gained a point after Fulham scored with only 2 min to go.We did this despite having our game plan screwed up by Clyne/Ramirez injuries followed by loss of Richardson. We are 4th from bottom having played 4 top sides. Our season starts here. franiow
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9:46am Mon 8 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up.

It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table..

One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th.

One Southampton.. COYR
Agreed, Dan!

Take, say, Thomasupton and 2701 - given that they are two of the worst 'knockers', it's probably appropriate to call them a pair of tits.
Outrageously unsympathetic Strasbourg.

I have written to the club this morning to complain that there is not enough to complain about.

Moaning provides essential psychological therapy and encourages camaraderie by ceating a wider community of doom merchants.

Now that we are in the Prem; out of the bottom three; well managed and in good financial shape and investing heavily in infrastructure for a bright future, we are left with a few mere morsels to nit pick over.

And sadly, this good fortune has arrived so quickly. It's a mere blink of the eye since we were broke, bottom of Div 1 with a big points deduction and with only 11 points to show from the first 11 games.

Heady days indeed for us moaners. I just hope things don't get worse and we find ourselves climbing even further up the table - and with Fox and Guly playing as well as they did yesterday to rub salt into the wounds.

I've a good mind to switch my support elsewhere if this abysmal rapid progress continues.

Please - does anyone know of a club within 30 mins drive languishing at the foot of Div 1, with a sh!te stadium, no money and no owner and the promise of Div 2 or liquidation looming?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up. It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table.. One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th. One Southampton.. COYR[/p][/quote]Agreed, Dan! Take, say, Thomasupton and 2701 - given that they are two of the worst 'knockers', it's probably appropriate to call them a pair of tits.[/p][/quote]Outrageously unsympathetic Strasbourg. I have written to the club this morning to complain that there is not enough to complain about. Moaning provides essential psychological therapy and encourages camaraderie by ceating a wider community of doom merchants. Now that we are in the Prem; out of the bottom three; well managed and in good financial shape and investing heavily in infrastructure for a bright future, we are left with a few mere morsels to nit pick over. And sadly, this good fortune has arrived so quickly. It's a mere blink of the eye since we were broke, bottom of Div 1 with a big points deduction and with only 11 points to show from the first 11 games. Heady days indeed for us moaners. I just hope things don't get worse and we find ourselves climbing even further up the table - and with Fox and Guly playing as well as they did yesterday to rub salt into the wounds. I've a good mind to switch my support elsewhere if this abysmal rapid progress continues. Please - does anyone know of a club within 30 mins drive languishing at the foot of Div 1, with a sh!te stadium, no money and no owner and the promise of Div 2 or liquidation looming? Confucious
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9:47am Mon 8 Oct 12

RedArmy1 says...

WE ARE RED ARMY.

Yesterday we had a better shape and did well in the first half. Second half fulham upped their game - and getting a point was the minimum we deserved.

All the teams in the Premiership are scrapping for points -

Next up is wet spam ...

(Who the f*ck are they ??)

WE GO FOR ALL 3 POINTS.

At Home we pack the Northam and frontline Itchen North (despite the filming) and AWAY we will make our presence felt.

WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON.

RED ARMY 2012.
UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!!
WE ARE RED ARMY. Yesterday we had a better shape and did well in the first half. Second half fulham upped their game - and getting a point was the minimum we deserved. All the teams in the Premiership are scrapping for points - Next up is wet spam ... (Who the f*ck are they ??) WE GO FOR ALL 3 POINTS. At Home we pack the Northam and frontline Itchen North (despite the filming) and AWAY we will make our presence felt. WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON. RED ARMY 2012. UP THE PREMIER LEAGUE WE MUST GO !!! RedArmy1
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9:47am Mon 8 Oct 12

up saints says...

SaintMax wrote:
Optimist wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
like
like
This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out.
Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition.

# Tick 'Like' to agree
# f off if you dont
big tick from me i get alot of stick from guly supporters who think he is the best player ever to put on a southampton shirt.people moan about fox fonte both davies and for that matter most of the team at times.but they put effort in blocks tackles headers and work rate off the ball.even if they have a bad game thats good enough fo me.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out. Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition. # Tick 'Like' to agree # f off if you dont[/p][/quote]big tick from me i get alot of stick from guly supporters who think he is the best player ever to put on a southampton shirt.people moan about fox fonte both davies and for that matter most of the team at times.but they put effort in blocks tackles headers and work rate off the ball.even if they have a bad game thats good enough fo me. up saints
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9:49am Mon 8 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together. To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters Scarborosaint
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9:56am Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition.

Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?
This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition. Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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10:01am Mon 8 Oct 12

Confucious says...

To be fair to my missus, I've told her that it's ok to moan while we're having sex, but she must stop moaning afterwards.
To be fair to my missus, I've told her that it's ok to moan while we're having sex, but she must stop moaning afterwards. Confucious
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10:01am Mon 8 Oct 12

SaintMax says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters
whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together. To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters[/p][/quote]whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you. Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right? You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level. SaintMax
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10:02am Mon 8 Oct 12

RedArmy1 says...

You've gotta give praise to Jose - he picked himself up after criticism and showed FIGHT and what he can do.

Look at Jos Hooiveld - he had the swagger of the main man - but yesterday his body langauage told a different story and it was no surprise to me to see him score in his own net.

JOS - GET A F*CKING GRIP !!!

We want to see you netting goals like last season - so get on with it - work harder and believe in your own ability and no more giving penalties away either.

sunday 26th october - We will be out in the pubs before the tottenham Game. No-one in Southampton are bothered by them. WE WILL BEAT THEM on the pitch and then to glorious november.

A treatt for the AWAY Fans - west brom and QPR and also for the HOME fans grabbing points at home with swansea newcastle and norwich.

Message to Adam Lallana - get some steel in the team ..and FIGHT AND WIN.

THERE IS NO FEAR AND NO SURRENDER !!!

RED ARMY 2012. WIN.
WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH.
You've gotta give praise to Jose - he picked himself up after criticism and showed FIGHT and what he can do. Look at Jos Hooiveld - he had the swagger of the main man - but yesterday his body langauage told a different story and it was no surprise to me to see him score in his own net. JOS - GET A F*CKING GRIP !!! We want to see you netting goals like last season - so get on with it - work harder and believe in your own ability and no more giving penalties away either. sunday 26th october - We will be out in the pubs before the tottenham Game. No-one in Southampton are bothered by them. WE WILL BEAT THEM on the pitch and then to glorious november. A treatt for the AWAY Fans - west brom and QPR and also for the HOME fans grabbing points at home with swansea newcastle and norwich. Message to Adam Lallana - get some steel in the team ..and FIGHT AND WIN. THERE IS NO FEAR AND NO SURRENDER !!! RED ARMY 2012. WIN. WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH. RedArmy1
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10:04am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

costa gaz wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1.
You are normally better than this St Ret.
If you are going to make these comments try using some facts
The clue is in the word 'basically', CG.

Of the 14 players used yesterday, 9 played for Saints in League 1, while Fox signed just after promotion.

So, basically, only 4 - Gazza, Yoshida, Davis and Jay (all summer signings along with unused sub, Mayuka) fall outside Retford's logical answer.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1. You are normally better than this St Ret. If you are going to make these comments try using some facts[/p][/quote]The clue is in the word 'basically', CG. Of the 14 players used yesterday, 9 played for Saints in League 1, while Fox signed just after promotion. So, basically, only 4 - Gazza, Yoshida, Davis and Jay (all summer signings along with unused sub, Mayuka) fall outside Retford's logical answer. Strasbourg Saint
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10:07am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition.

Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?
It's why I always choose a window seat on a plane.

Would rather annoy my neighbour than have them annoy me.

It's worse in the family section where kids seem to have worse bladders than Bill and Slugger and the attention span of a goldfish crossed with a skate.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition. Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?[/p][/quote]It's why I always choose a window seat on a plane. Would rather annoy my neighbour than have them annoy me. It's worse in the family section where kids seem to have worse bladders than Bill and Slugger and the attention span of a goldfish crossed with a skate. Strasbourg Saint
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10:11am Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1.
You are normally better than this St Ret.
If you are going to make these comments try using some facts
The clue is in the word 'basically', CG.

Of the 14 players used yesterday, 9 played for Saints in League 1, while Fox signed just after promotion.

So, basically, only 4 - Gazza, Yoshida, Davis and Jay (all summer signings along with unused sub, Mayuka) fall outside Retford's logical answer.
Sorry, yes, add Jos to the Championship, so 8 (+ 2 just after), which is still BASICALLY what Retford is saying.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1. You are normally better than this St Ret. If you are going to make these comments try using some facts[/p][/quote]The clue is in the word 'basically', CG. Of the 14 players used yesterday, 9 played for Saints in League 1, while Fox signed just after promotion. So, basically, only 4 - Gazza, Yoshida, Davis and Jay (all summer signings along with unused sub, Mayuka) fall outside Retford's logical answer.[/p][/quote]Sorry, yes, add Jos to the Championship, so 8 (+ 2 just after), which is still BASICALLY what Retford is saying. Strasbourg Saint
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10:12am Mon 8 Oct 12

Confucious says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition.

Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?
It's why I always choose a window seat on a plane.

Would rather annoy my neighbour than have them annoy me.

It's worse in the family section where kids seem to have worse bladders than Bill and Slugger and the attention span of a goldfish crossed with a skate.
Bill and Slugger can always be relied upon to go with the flow.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition. Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?[/p][/quote]It's why I always choose a window seat on a plane. Would rather annoy my neighbour than have them annoy me. It's worse in the family section where kids seem to have worse bladders than Bill and Slugger and the attention span of a goldfish crossed with a skate.[/p][/quote]Bill and Slugger can always be relied upon to go with the flow. Confucious
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10:16am Mon 8 Oct 12

Walter K says...

.......Our season starts here.”

At what point are people going to stop saying this!
.......Our season starts here.” At what point are people going to stop saying this! Walter K
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10:17am Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half SO50 Saint
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10:22am Mon 8 Oct 12

SaintMax says...

Walter K wrote:
.......Our season starts here.”

At what point are people going to stop saying this!
that did make me laugh too actually. Like someone else pointed out, we are a couple of games off of a quarter of the way through the season.
If we keep failing to win it will be harder and harder to get the lads heads up and keep confidence high.
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: .......Our season starts here.” At what point are people going to stop saying this![/p][/quote]that did make me laugh too actually. Like someone else pointed out, we are a couple of games off of a quarter of the way through the season. If we keep failing to win it will be harder and harder to get the lads heads up and keep confidence high. SaintMax
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10:30am Mon 8 Oct 12

up saints says...

Walter K wrote:
.......Our season starts here.”

At what point are people going to stop saying this!
maybe stoke home
[quote][p][bold]Walter K[/bold] wrote: .......Our season starts here.” At what point are people going to stop saying this![/p][/quote]maybe stoke home up saints
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10:32am Mon 8 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

What's the panic?
We've won 1 and drawn 1 having played 3 of the top four teams in the league.

The team currently qualifying for the Champions league has only won three more games than us.

A bit of patience required....I'm confident that the current Saints team with a couple of decent defensive additions at LB and CB will comfortably achive mid table safety this season. Along the way we will win games we could've lost and lose games that we should've won.
That's football - enjoy the fact that we're back playing where we should be after a few difficult years.
What's the panic? We've won 1 and drawn 1 having played 3 of the top four teams in the league. The team currently qualifying for the Champions league has only won three more games than us. A bit of patience required....I'm confident that the current Saints team with a couple of decent defensive additions at LB and CB will comfortably achive mid table safety this season. Along the way we will win games we could've lost and lose games that we should've won. That's football - enjoy the fact that we're back playing where we should be after a few difficult years. Ted Rogers
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10:33am Mon 8 Oct 12

Mr. Miyagi says...

skin2000 wrote:
up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
Yes it is a strange tactic bringing off players who are playing okay and are not injured. We lose all shape and direction once we bring Lambert off.
This may be completely wrong but, when Adkins took off the three best performing players against Man U and we then lost he was slated, so his gamble failed. If we had won that game the subs would have been an inspired decision that would have given him all the plaudits. He has basically done it again yesterday, and failed again, although obviously a draw is better than a loss, but we were in winning positions at the time in both games. Is Adkins gambling with results to try and put himself in the headlines for being a genius? He can't keep gambling with this, if the players are fit enough and still performing, leave them on. When Rickie is playing his reverts to a defender when we are not in possession, Guly does not.
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]Yes it is a strange tactic bringing off players who are playing okay and are not injured. We lose all shape and direction once we bring Lambert off.[/p][/quote]This may be completely wrong but, when Adkins took off the three best performing players against Man U and we then lost he was slated, so his gamble failed. If we had won that game the subs would have been an inspired decision that would have given him all the plaudits. He has basically done it again yesterday, and failed again, although obviously a draw is better than a loss, but we were in winning positions at the time in both games. Is Adkins gambling with results to try and put himself in the headlines for being a genius? He can't keep gambling with this, if the players are fit enough and still performing, leave them on. When Rickie is playing his reverts to a defender when we are not in possession, Guly does not. Mr. Miyagi
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10:45am Mon 8 Oct 12

RedArmy1 says...

Want to cheer yourself up after the disappointment of yesterday then force the club to get a bigger ticket allocation to wet spam AWAY and MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

WE ARE RED ARMY.
WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR
Want to cheer yourself up after the disappointment of yesterday then force the club to get a bigger ticket allocation to wet spam AWAY and MAKE A DIFFERENCE. WE ARE RED ARMY. WE RULE THE SOUTH. COYR RedArmy1
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10:47am Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

RedArmy1 wrote:
You've gotta give praise to Jose - he picked himself up after criticism and showed FIGHT and what he can do.

Look at Jos Hooiveld - he had the swagger of the main man - but yesterday his body langauage told a different story and it was no surprise to me to see him score in his own net.

JOS - GET A F*CKING GRIP !!!

We want to see you netting goals like last season - so get on with it - work harder and believe in your own ability and no more giving penalties away either.

sunday 26th october - We will be out in the pubs before the tottenham Game. No-one in Southampton are bothered by them. WE WILL BEAT THEM on the pitch and then to glorious november.

A treatt for the AWAY Fans - west brom and QPR and also for the HOME fans grabbing points at home with swansea newcastle and norwich.

Message to Adam Lallana - get some steel in the team ..and FIGHT AND WIN.

THERE IS NO FEAR AND NO SURRENDER !!!

RED ARMY 2012. WIN.
WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH.
I never tire fo the straightforward simplicity of redarmy1 messages.

In the old Dell days under the west stand near the players entrance there were several who would scream out this sort of rallying cry.

It might not win nobel prizes for wit and literary content but it just wipes the floor with the moaners.
[quote][p][bold]RedArmy1[/bold] wrote: You've gotta give praise to Jose - he picked himself up after criticism and showed FIGHT and what he can do. Look at Jos Hooiveld - he had the swagger of the main man - but yesterday his body langauage told a different story and it was no surprise to me to see him score in his own net. JOS - GET A F*CKING GRIP !!! We want to see you netting goals like last season - so get on with it - work harder and believe in your own ability and no more giving penalties away either. sunday 26th october - We will be out in the pubs before the tottenham Game. No-one in Southampton are bothered by them. WE WILL BEAT THEM on the pitch and then to glorious november. A treatt for the AWAY Fans - west brom and QPR and also for the HOME fans grabbing points at home with swansea newcastle and norwich. Message to Adam Lallana - get some steel in the team ..and FIGHT AND WIN. THERE IS NO FEAR AND NO SURRENDER !!! RED ARMY 2012. WIN. WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH.[/p][/quote]I never tire fo the straightforward simplicity of redarmy1 messages. In the old Dell days under the west stand near the players entrance there were several who would scream out this sort of rallying cry. It might not win nobel prizes for wit and literary content but it just wipes the floor with the moaners. Alicesdad
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10:56am Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

costa gaz wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.
FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.
Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right.

When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.
Wrong.. wrong..wrong..

Gazzaniger Steve davis, Yoshida, Rodriguez and hooiveld never featured in our league one team.
That's 5 out of 11, (who played a part on sat) hardly the same team as 2 seasons ago.

You lot stick together don't you?
Even if one of your gang is totally wrong you'll all agree.....
You have a point CG but this was never a point for point matching analogy. But the stats arent that far out so I'm uncertain why this is bugging you. It's no big deal is it?

To quote your own comment "You lot stick together don't you" ....

There is indeed a body of support at this club, which is reflected in these threads, that do indeed stick together. Debate is encouraged, argument is often in full flow. It stands to reason that like minded posters will agree with each other from time to time

The club, and this site are all the better for it.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.[/p][/quote]FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.[/p][/quote]Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right. When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.[/p][/quote]Wrong.. wrong..wrong.. Gazzaniger Steve davis, Yoshida, Rodriguez and hooiveld never featured in our league one team. That's 5 out of 11, (who played a part on sat) hardly the same team as 2 seasons ago. You lot stick together don't you? Even if one of your gang is totally wrong you'll all agree.....[/p][/quote]You have a point CG but this was never a point for point matching analogy. But the stats arent that far out so I'm uncertain why this is bugging you. It's no big deal is it? To quote your own comment "You lot stick together don't you" .... There is indeed a body of support at this club, which is reflected in these threads, that do indeed stick together. Debate is encouraged, argument is often in full flow. It stands to reason that like minded posters will agree with each other from time to time The club, and this site are all the better for it. Alicesdad
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10:58am Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half
The goal was disallowed because Punch stuck his arse out backwards and the keeper collapsed. The commentators on MOTD laughed about it and said it was outrageous. In other words it was a good goal.

If the second goal had come we would have run away with it. The disallowed goal was bad luck. Punch hit the post (which at the time I thought a defender saved on the line) and Rickie missed some that on another day we would have seen him put away.

When Nige made the substitutions I thought we had lost the momentum and were in danger of getting turned over. If we were still in the ascendancy I would agree it would be a weird thing to do, but we weren't.

I also harp back to the Man U game when I said to my son 'look at Rickie, he is dead on his feet' within 2 minutes he was off. I could see it and I'm no coach so why does everyone think he should have stayed on? Rickie is a god but when he's knackered he's purely a passenger.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half[/p][/quote]The goal was disallowed because Punch stuck his arse out backwards and the keeper collapsed. The commentators on MOTD laughed about it and said it was outrageous. In other words it was a good goal. If the second goal had come we would have run away with it. The disallowed goal was bad luck. Punch hit the post (which at the time I thought a defender saved on the line) and Rickie missed some that on another day we would have seen him put away. When Nige made the substitutions I thought we had lost the momentum and were in danger of getting turned over. If we were still in the ascendancy I would agree it would be a weird thing to do, but we weren't. I also harp back to the Man U game when I said to my son 'look at Rickie, he is dead on his feet' within 2 minutes he was off. I could see it and I'm no coach so why does everyone think he should have stayed on? Rickie is a god but when he's knackered he's purely a passenger. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:06am Mon 8 Oct 12

swesaint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half
There seems to be 2 big problems with the moaners. 1st one is judging player ability. I heard so much about puncheon being our best player and should not be subbed. Did any of you actually see what was happening at that point? We had a make shift right back who needed extra support and as the half progressed the support from punch dvindeled from occasional to never. He was standing around the halfway line waiting for the others to put a shift in and then just involve himself in attack. All people seem to see is when he gets the ball and attacks, even though he was a massive liability at that point. I would say taking him of probably saved us from conceding even further as Yoshida got a yellow and they put Richardson on. Second problem is that their seem to be top 4 ambitions in all we do. We just got promoted, we sit outside the relegation zone, yes let me repeat that - outside the relegation zone having played a far tougher schedule than the 3 teams below us.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half[/p][/quote]There seems to be 2 big problems with the moaners. 1st one is judging player ability. I heard so much about puncheon being our best player and should not be subbed. Did any of you actually see what was happening at that point? We had a make shift right back who needed extra support and as the half progressed the support from punch dvindeled from occasional to never. He was standing around the halfway line waiting for the others to put a shift in and then just involve himself in attack. All people seem to see is when he gets the ball and attacks, even though he was a massive liability at that point. I would say taking him of probably saved us from conceding even further as Yoshida got a yellow and they put Richardson on. Second problem is that their seem to be top 4 ambitions in all we do. We just got promoted, we sit outside the relegation zone, yes let me repeat that - outside the relegation zone having played a far tougher schedule than the 3 teams below us. swesaint
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11:06am Mon 8 Oct 12

Scarborosaint says...

SaintMax wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters
whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.
Everybody is entitled to criticise , it's when it gets personal and when the same players ie fox, guly, fonte and Davies get stick regardless how they play , you sound passionate about the saints mate just trying to say criticism should be constructive not destructive.
Ps played football from Hampshire league, southern league, conference, div 2 , div 1, through to the championship and not on x-box , have been a victim of boo boys at one club, luckily it was before the social media era . Coyr
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together. To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters[/p][/quote]whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you. Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right? You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.[/p][/quote]Everybody is entitled to criticise , it's when it gets personal and when the same players ie fox, guly, fonte and Davies get stick regardless how they play , you sound passionate about the saints mate just trying to say criticism should be constructive not destructive. Ps played football from Hampshire league, southern league, conference, div 2 , div 1, through to the championship and not on x-box , have been a victim of boo boys at one club, luckily it was before the social media era . Coyr Scarborosaint
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11:09am Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

Top 4 ambitions you are having a laugh mate I'm just calling it as I can see it from all the way back in Row NN so it actually is a bit tougher for me to see when a player is blowing out of their arse. Please don't class me as a moaner either I think if you look back over all of my comments on this website my moaning is very few and far between I have stated what I have seen
Top 4 ambitions you are having a laugh mate I'm just calling it as I can see it from all the way back in Row NN so it actually is a bit tougher for me to see when a player is blowing out of their arse. Please don't class me as a moaner either I think if you look back over all of my comments on this website my moaning is very few and far between I have stated what I have seen SO50 Saint
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11:10am Mon 8 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Believe it or not it's about belief or not..When we start to take our chances we will actually thrash some teams...taking our chances will keep us up...our defence will not..if we survive next season will be a different story..however RL will need replacing soon and he is a great player..not easy to find.

We are starting to have some serious atmosphere at the ground, but those coming to be entertained and not be part of the scene need to be spoken to...early en masse leavers should be loudly admonished by all, embarrassment will stop them in future.
Believe it or not it's about belief or not..When we start to take our chances we will actually thrash some teams...taking our chances will keep us up...our defence will not..if we survive next season will be a different story..however RL will need replacing soon and he is a great player..not easy to find. We are starting to have some serious atmosphere at the ground, but those coming to be entertained and not be part of the scene need to be spoken to...early en masse leavers should be loudly admonished by all, embarrassment will stop them in future. warrens 76
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11:18am Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

SaintMax wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters
whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.
Yes, I guess, only having an occasional home game on a week-end is very inconvenient, when we were in the Championship, at least we had Mid-week games to attend for those that can't do the week-end games. Slightly balanced by more TV coverage, but that is not the same as being there, those that attend games get a better appreciation of the game and should be allowed the right to say what they feel, TV with a commentators bias may cloud some of the issues and cameras cannot cover every area of the action. It is very often the case that the ones with the most critical reaction posts on here are supporters with a passion for success, (or often as not, nothing to do with the Saints!), but have never been anywhere near St. Marys, they have the right to put their views as any other Saints fan (or not as the case may be), but surely cannot be as wise as someone who gets to every game. I played the game at a relatively modest level, that doesn't make me any different from someone who has never played the game at all. Everyone should say what they feel and see is right, doesn't mean to say they are right or wrong and certainly not a reason for personal abuse because you disagree, that's just juvenile and unnecessary and instantly wrecks your argument.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together. To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters[/p][/quote]whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you. Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right? You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.[/p][/quote]Yes, I guess, only having an occasional home game on a week-end is very inconvenient, when we were in the Championship, at least we had Mid-week games to attend for those that can't do the week-end games. Slightly balanced by more TV coverage, but that is not the same as being there, those that attend games get a better appreciation of the game and should be allowed the right to say what they feel, TV with a commentators bias may cloud some of the issues and cameras cannot cover every area of the action. It is very often the case that the ones with the most critical reaction posts on here are supporters with a passion for success, (or often as not, nothing to do with the Saints!), but have never been anywhere near St. Marys, they have the right to put their views as any other Saints fan (or not as the case may be), but surely cannot be as wise as someone who gets to every game. I played the game at a relatively modest level, that doesn't make me any different from someone who has never played the game at all. Everyone should say what they feel and see is right, doesn't mean to say they are right or wrong and certainly not a reason for personal abuse because you disagree, that's just juvenile and unnecessary and instantly wrecks your argument. OSPREYSAINT
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12:00pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Block 34 says...

what are NA's subsitutions all about??? First v Man U then Sunday - Guly??? WTF... ??? Sorry but he's not up to the prem. Hint: if someone's playing well, keep him on the park!!!
what are NA's subsitutions all about??? First v Man U then Sunday - Guly??? WTF... ??? Sorry but he's not up to the prem. Hint: if someone's playing well, keep him on the park!!! Block 34
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12:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Nicole23 says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser
Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd.
We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser[/p][/quote]Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd. We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO. Nicole23
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12:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12

kuwait Saint says...

No wonder our defence is so bad. All the defenders seem to be up the other end of the park scoring goals!!
No wonder our defence is so bad. All the defenders seem to be up the other end of the park scoring goals!! kuwait Saint
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12:16pm Mon 8 Oct 12

swesaint says...

Block 34 wrote:
what are NA's subsitutions all about??? First v Man U then Sunday - Guly??? WTF... ??? Sorry but he's not up to the prem. Hint: if someone's playing well, keep him on the park!!!
What are all the question and exclamation marks all about?
[quote][p][bold]Block 34[/bold] wrote: what are NA's subsitutions all about??? First v Man U then Sunday - Guly??? WTF... ??? Sorry but he's not up to the prem. Hint: if someone's playing well, keep him on the park!!![/p][/quote]What are all the question and exclamation marks all about? swesaint
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12:21pm Mon 8 Oct 12

tugboat says...

Lots of emotive comments,I dearly want the manager to stay and succeed,he has displayed his excellent man management skills and i can only assume the players like most pro players are playing to his direct instructions.
But you cant help thinking that it doesnt look like it will suddenly improve,thats the worrying bit. but has anything really changed in how were defending since the start of the season ?.
How long does NA get to get us looking solid?
I admire his "were sticking with our attacking policy",but isnt that just a bit reckless?
Better hold on tight ,looks like a typical saints season,more sleepless nights to come then ...............
By the way when jos piled in for the own goal,shouldnt he have been aware what was around him or at least get a shout,hell of a lunge,hell of a goal.A bit more composure needed.His radar needs adjusting.
There you go,not positive ,not negative but a balanced whinge.
Lots of emotive comments,I dearly want the manager to stay and succeed,he has displayed his excellent man management skills and i can only assume the players like most pro players are playing to his direct instructions. But you cant help thinking that it doesnt look like it will suddenly improve,thats the worrying bit. but has anything really changed in how were defending since the start of the season ?. How long does NA get to get us looking solid? I admire his "were sticking with our attacking policy",but isnt that just a bit reckless? Better hold on tight ,looks like a typical saints season,more sleepless nights to come then ............... By the way when jos piled in for the own goal,shouldnt he have been aware what was around him or at least get a shout,hell of a lunge,hell of a goal.A bit more composure needed.His radar needs adjusting. There you go,not positive ,not negative but a balanced whinge. tugboat
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12:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

swesaint says...

tugboat wrote:
Lots of emotive comments,I dearly want the manager to stay and succeed,he has displayed his excellent man management skills and i can only assume the players like most pro players are playing to his direct instructions.
But you cant help thinking that it doesnt look like it will suddenly improve,thats the worrying bit. but has anything really changed in how were defending since the start of the season ?.
How long does NA get to get us looking solid?
I admire his "were sticking with our attacking policy",but isnt that just a bit reckless?
Better hold on tight ,looks like a typical saints season,more sleepless nights to come then ...............
By the way when jos piled in for the own goal,shouldnt he have been aware what was around him or at least get a shout,hell of a lunge,hell of a goal.A bit more composure needed.His radar needs adjusting.
There you go,not positive ,not negative but a balanced whinge.
Not sure how you could not see the defensive improvement yesterday, and that was with a makeshift right back.
[quote][p][bold]tugboat[/bold] wrote: Lots of emotive comments,I dearly want the manager to stay and succeed,he has displayed his excellent man management skills and i can only assume the players like most pro players are playing to his direct instructions. But you cant help thinking that it doesnt look like it will suddenly improve,thats the worrying bit. but has anything really changed in how were defending since the start of the season ?. How long does NA get to get us looking solid? I admire his "were sticking with our attacking policy",but isnt that just a bit reckless? Better hold on tight ,looks like a typical saints season,more sleepless nights to come then ............... By the way when jos piled in for the own goal,shouldnt he have been aware what was around him or at least get a shout,hell of a lunge,hell of a goal.A bit more composure needed.His radar needs adjusting. There you go,not positive ,not negative but a balanced whinge.[/p][/quote]Not sure how you could not see the defensive improvement yesterday, and that was with a makeshift right back. swesaint
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12:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12

St.Yorkie says...

I do wish people on here would get a grip! I thought we were really good in the first half and but for a bit of luck we could have been 3 or even 4 up at HT. Fulham just weren't at the races - because we didn't let them play.
We survived an early injury and had to re-shape. Yoshida is not a RB, and we knew Jos would struggle for pace at this level. Take into account Clyne and Ramirez were not available - I think we did OK.
Sure the result was a bit of a fluke in the end - but we will surely not play as badly as we did in the second half again this season?
As for the substitutions - Rickie looked knackered playing behind JRod for the whole game. He ran and ran - and we needed fresh legs. I thought JRod had a good game in his preferred central position - and can only get better.
For all those knockers out there - you must have grown a pair after the match. Moan, moan, moan & moan. I follow a team whether they win or lose. I moaned when the Chairman, Manager and Players's hearts weren't in it - not any more. We have a top draw Chairman & Manager - and with steely resolve the players on the bus will keep us in this league.
We are building - we need some stability - if you want to win every week - go and follow Man Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal...even they lose sometimes!
We didn't lose so why all the negativity?
I do wish people on here would get a grip! I thought we were really good in the first half and but for a bit of luck we could have been 3 or even 4 up at HT. Fulham just weren't at the races - because we didn't let them play. We survived an early injury and had to re-shape. Yoshida is not a RB, and we knew Jos would struggle for pace at this level. Take into account Clyne and Ramirez were not available - I think we did OK. Sure the result was a bit of a fluke in the end - but we will surely not play as badly as we did in the second half again this season? As for the substitutions - Rickie looked knackered playing behind JRod for the whole game. He ran and ran - and we needed fresh legs. I thought JRod had a good game in his preferred central position - and can only get better. For all those knockers out there - you must have grown a pair after the match. Moan, moan, moan & moan. I follow a team whether they win or lose. I moaned when the Chairman, Manager and Players's hearts weren't in it - not any more. We have a top draw Chairman & Manager - and with steely resolve the players on the bus will keep us in this league. We are building - we need some stability - if you want to win every week - go and follow Man Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal...even they lose sometimes! We didn't lose so why all the negativity? St.Yorkie
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12:30pm Mon 8 Oct 12

spainrico says...

We had them on the ropes during the 1st half and should have gone all out to finish them off - I thought at HT this will now be a difficult match to win. We banked on good home form to keep us up but with only 1 pt to show from Wigan and Fulham at home (yes OK the AV result was good) it really is going to be a tough season and we will be relying on others (QPR, Reading, Norwich, AV) losing to keep us up.
We had them on the ropes during the 1st half and should have gone all out to finish them off - I thought at HT this will now be a difficult match to win. We banked on good home form to keep us up but with only 1 pt to show from Wigan and Fulham at home (yes OK the AV result was good) it really is going to be a tough season and we will be relying on others (QPR, Reading, Norwich, AV) losing to keep us up. spainrico
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12:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Hobson82 says...

I'm going to throw in a suggestion which I'm sure most will disagree with.

Why doesn't Adkins give Seabourne a try? I know some of you don't think he is good enough, and you will probably be right, but we are clearly struggling defensively so why not give the boy a try. What's the worst that could happen?
I'm going to throw in a suggestion which I'm sure most will disagree with. Why doesn't Adkins give Seabourne a try? I know some of you don't think he is good enough, and you will probably be right, but we are clearly struggling defensively so why not give the boy a try. What's the worst that could happen? Hobson82
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12:47pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot. CB FRY LIVES
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12:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Ted Rogers says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot Ted Rogers
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12:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Saint 2701 says...

randre wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support?

Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.
On hindsight I may have gone a little over the top yesterday, a mixture of booze and being fed up with losing points. We all want whats best for the club at the end of the day, I’m just showing it sometimes more controversially than others!
With regards to Adkins, I was his biggest fan come start of season and was worried he might even land the England job! But I do think we need a change in philosophy, Adkin’s bright ideas seem to be failing, quite badly.
To the offended, I offer my apologies from a very frustrated fan (believe it or not).
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'[/p][/quote]mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support? Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.[/p][/quote]On hindsight I may have gone a little over the top yesterday, a mixture of booze and being fed up with losing points. We all want whats best for the club at the end of the day, I’m just showing it sometimes more controversially than others! With regards to Adkins, I was his biggest fan come start of season and was worried he might even land the England job! But I do think we need a change in philosophy, Adkin’s bright ideas seem to be failing, quite badly. To the offended, I offer my apologies from a very frustrated fan (believe it or not). Saint 2701
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1:04pm Mon 8 Oct 12

boilerman says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.
I am not a Fox lover, but he gets no help from lallana in front of him.
Lallana let his man go to put in a cross for one of the goals, also both goals came from moves down our left side, we have to sort this area out.
Again the substitutions baffled .a lot of people
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.[/p][/quote]I am not a Fox lover, but he gets no help from lallana in front of him. Lallana let his man go to put in a cross for one of the goals, also both goals came from moves down our left side, we have to sort this area out. Again the substitutions baffled .a lot of people boilerman
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1:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

swesaint wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half
There seems to be 2 big problems with the moaners. 1st one is judging player ability. I heard so much about puncheon being our best player and should not be subbed. Did any of you actually see what was happening at that point? We had a make shift right back who needed extra support and as the half progressed the support from punch dvindeled from occasional to never. He was standing around the halfway line waiting for the others to put a shift in and then just involve himself in attack. All people seem to see is when he gets the ball and attacks, even though he was a massive liability at that point. I would say taking him of probably saved us from conceding even further as Yoshida got a yellow and they put Richardson on. Second problem is that their seem to be top 4 ambitions in all we do. We just got promoted, we sit outside the relegation zone, yes let me repeat that - outside the relegation zone having played a far tougher schedule than the 3 teams below us.
Good post, especially the point about Punch. I thought he was finding some terrific space for collecting the ball. However, it was equally clear that Yoshida was being heavily exposed, especially after his booking. So, the change with Chappers at that time made very good sense.

What's especially strange about the moaners today is that they seem to be blaming:
a) poor defending. We know our defence needs improving but we've yet to be able to create anything like a settled defence and no one - NO, NOT EVEN GULY OR FOX - can be blamed for losing Richardson, which clearly had an effect. Most (including me) have questioned whether Fonte is good enough for the Prem. Yet, he may have proved a number of us wrong yesterday and that would have been so even without the goals. In a somewhat makeshift defence, he rose to the challenge and deserved his motm.

b) Nigel's substitutions.
Personally, when Richardson went off, I thought bringing Jos on and moving Yoshida across was the only option. Some have suggested Chappers should have played there. Does anyone know whether he has ever played at full back?

Likewise, while I would have liked to see Mayuka come on for Rickie, do any of us know how Jay/Mayuka would have worked out? So, on reflection, Guly made sense AND did well (sorry moaners, but you will just have to accept that for the truth it is).

As for the substitutions costing us the win, I don't suppose it would have had anything to do with the disallowed goal, the misses by our 'perfect' No.7, the misfortune of losing Richardson or the fact that both Fulham goals came from somewhat fortuitous deflections.

So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.
[quote][p][bold]swesaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half[/p][/quote]There seems to be 2 big problems with the moaners. 1st one is judging player ability. I heard so much about puncheon being our best player and should not be subbed. Did any of you actually see what was happening at that point? We had a make shift right back who needed extra support and as the half progressed the support from punch dvindeled from occasional to never. He was standing around the halfway line waiting for the others to put a shift in and then just involve himself in attack. All people seem to see is when he gets the ball and attacks, even though he was a massive liability at that point. I would say taking him of probably saved us from conceding even further as Yoshida got a yellow and they put Richardson on. Second problem is that their seem to be top 4 ambitions in all we do. We just got promoted, we sit outside the relegation zone, yes let me repeat that - outside the relegation zone having played a far tougher schedule than the 3 teams below us.[/p][/quote]Good post, especially the point about Punch. I thought he was finding some terrific space for collecting the ball. However, it was equally clear that Yoshida was being heavily exposed, especially after his booking. So, the change with Chappers at that time made very good sense. What's especially strange about the moaners today is that they seem to be blaming: a) poor defending. We know our defence needs improving but we've yet to be able to create anything like a settled defence and no one - NO, NOT EVEN GULY OR FOX - can be blamed for losing Richardson, which clearly had an effect. Most (including me) have questioned whether Fonte is good enough for the Prem. Yet, he may have proved a number of us wrong yesterday and that would have been so even without the goals. In a somewhat makeshift defence, he rose to the challenge and deserved his motm. b) Nigel's substitutions. Personally, when Richardson went off, I thought bringing Jos on and moving Yoshida across was the only option. Some have suggested Chappers should have played there. Does anyone know whether he has ever played at full back? Likewise, while I would have liked to see Mayuka come on for Rickie, do any of us know how Jay/Mayuka would have worked out? So, on reflection, Guly made sense AND did well (sorry moaners, but you will just have to accept that for the truth it is). As for the substitutions costing us the win, I don't suppose it would have had anything to do with the disallowed goal, the misses by our 'perfect' No.7, the misfortune of losing Richardson or the fact that both Fulham goals came from somewhat fortuitous deflections. So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals. Strasbourg Saint
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1:09pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Nicole23 wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser
Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd.
We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.
In that case, I won't bother bringing Mr Sheen round to your place.

That 'turd' as you have chosen to describe Guly put in a good shift yesterday and dosen't need your unimaginative abuse.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser[/p][/quote]Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd. We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.[/p][/quote]In that case, I won't bother bringing Mr Sheen round to your place. That 'turd' as you have chosen to describe Guly put in a good shift yesterday and dosen't need your unimaginative abuse. Strasbourg Saint
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1:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.”

Lol sounds about right, anyway not been enough on here about the truly awful Clattenberg who I think thought that the 28000 people there to watch and people on the TV were there to see him don't think he gave us a decision all game
So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.” Lol sounds about right, anyway not been enough on here about the truly awful Clattenberg who I think thought that the 28000 people there to watch and people on the TV were there to see him don't think he gave us a decision all game SO50 Saint
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1:17pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word. Strasbourg Saint
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1:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

right back in the bar says...

when you analyse the game Fulham tried their luck down our right channel in the first half rightly suspecting a weak link there after Richardson went off. 2nd half they switched it. The question is why was Fox isolated time and time again; why wasn't someone tracking the other wide right player that Fox had to deal with? The goal had been coming for sometime. If not for that I thought we actually showed signs of improvement defensively and Davis, Spider, lambo and the keeper had good games. Pity Llanna is burdended with the responsibility of wearing the captains armband and not playing to his strengths. it was a mistake to make him captain.
when you analyse the game Fulham tried their luck down our right channel in the first half rightly suspecting a weak link there after Richardson went off. 2nd half they switched it. The question is why was Fox isolated time and time again; why wasn't someone tracking the other wide right player that Fox had to deal with? The goal had been coming for sometime. If not for that I thought we actually showed signs of improvement defensively and Davis, Spider, lambo and the keeper had good games. Pity Llanna is burdended with the responsibility of wearing the captains armband and not playing to his strengths. it was a mistake to make him captain. right back in the bar
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1:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

7saint7 says...

I was a big Adkins fan ... But watching his subs in all are prem games so far wtf ... Adkins has took us up twice in two years .. And you cant ask for more than that ... But a prem manager he is not ...
I was a big Adkins fan ... But watching his subs in all are prem games so far wtf ... Adkins has took us up twice in two years .. And you cant ask for more than that ... But a prem manager he is not ... 7saint7
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1:41pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.”

Lol sounds about right, anyway not been enough on here about the truly awful Clattenberg who I think thought that the 28000 people there to watch and people on the TV were there to see him don't think he gave us a decision all game
That's a good point.

I was screaming about some of the bookings. The only time he seemed willing to go easy on us was when (with what went before) he chose NOT to give Spiderman a second booking.

I wonder how much of an effect the dreadful Jos ('handball') booking made.

How Sidwell got away with his constant fouling, I don't know. As he was subbed, I remarked that he could become the next Robbie Savage, always fouling, seemingly never to get a red!
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.” Lol sounds about right, anyway not been enough on here about the truly awful Clattenberg who I think thought that the 28000 people there to watch and people on the TV were there to see him don't think he gave us a decision all game[/p][/quote]That's a good point. I was screaming about some of the bookings. The only time he seemed willing to go easy on us was when (with what went before) he chose NOT to give Spiderman a second booking. I wonder how much of an effect the dreadful Jos ('handball') booking made. How Sidwell got away with his constant fouling, I don't know. As he was subbed, I remarked that he could become the next Robbie Savage, always fouling, seemingly never to get a red! Strasbourg Saint
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1:51pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

So I take it that decision was another shocking one. Seemed it from the reaction down the other end. Thought Morgan was definetly off when making that 2nd challenge. Spose that was something that went our way you can see we are getting better but the biggest problem is the defence and unfortunately til Jan not much can be done about that
So I take it that decision was another shocking one. Seemed it from the reaction down the other end. Thought Morgan was definetly off when making that 2nd challenge. Spose that was something that went our way you can see we are getting better but the biggest problem is the defence and unfortunately til Jan not much can be done about that SO50 Saint
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1:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Alicesdad says...

I'm getting bored now. Plenty of debate about result,subs, tactics and all the usual stuff.

We need new grist for the mill. Would some uninhibited free form thinker please come up with some inspiring subject to get the debate moving until we get the next thread.

Hurry up or the Echo will dig up some Saints Od Boy who will make some comment or other to remind us he's still alive and we'll all be asleep by tea time.

To quote an old West Stander many years ago come on "Scintillate" !!!
I'm getting bored now. Plenty of debate about result,subs, tactics and all the usual stuff. We need new grist for the mill. Would some uninhibited free form thinker please come up with some inspiring subject to get the debate moving until we get the next thread. Hurry up or the Echo will dig up some Saints Od Boy who will make some comment or other to remind us he's still alive and we'll all be asleep by tea time. To quote an old West Stander many years ago come on "Scintillate" !!! Alicesdad
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1:58pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

Dunno about anyone else but i'm hoping for Ali Dia failing that Neil Shipperley should suffice
Dunno about anyone else but i'm hoping for Ali Dia failing that Neil Shipperley should suffice SO50 Saint
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2:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

lowe esteem says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???
There IS a new sales prevention scheme insitu at the ticket office and through the website, and the premise is to treat non-season ticket holders as a lower form of life, there are a lot of tactics involved, but it is clearly based on the assumption that 'We are Premier League' and the fans that can't attend every game are all willing to jump through endless hoops. Personal experience suggests that individual supporters are being less well looked-after this season.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???[/p][/quote]There IS a new sales prevention scheme insitu at the ticket office and through the website, and the premise is to treat non-season ticket holders as a lower form of life, there are a lot of tactics involved, but it is clearly based on the assumption that 'We are Premier League' and the fans that can't attend every game are all willing to jump through endless hoops. Personal experience suggests that individual supporters are being less well looked-after this season. lowe esteem
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2:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
3 points?, I thought we gained one
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]3 points?, I thought we gained one OSPREYSAINT
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2:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SaintJD says...

Interesting polarised views on here and, as usual, the reality is somewhere in the middle ground.

Nigel is a good manager and, overall, our performance yesterday was good, but I think it is also fair to say that those substitutions were bemusing.

Mayuka for J Rod was the one I was expecting - to give them something different to think about. Taking off Rickie and Puncheon not only took away all our attacking threat, but two players who could hold the ball up and keep it through power and pace. Puncheon had the added benefit of keeping Risse from going forward.

What's most perplexing is that this is at odds with our attacking philosophy. Inviting pressure onto our defence for 30 minutes is suicidal, especially when it is so fragile.

That said, people should remember Nigel's subs and selections against Villa, which won us the game.

So, let's admit Nigel made a mistake, but let's not get too over excited either - we are outside of the relegation zone, which is where we'd hope to be, and that after playing four of the best teams in the league (three away from home).

Our defence as we know is going to be frustrating, but at the moment our attacking strength is doing enough to counter that. We're out of the bottom three and having a go in every game - which is more than the likes of QPR, Reading or Villa are doing.
Interesting polarised views on here and, as usual, the reality is somewhere in the middle ground. Nigel is a good manager and, overall, our performance yesterday was good, but I think it is also fair to say that those substitutions were bemusing. Mayuka for J Rod was the one I was expecting - to give them something different to think about. Taking off Rickie and Puncheon not only took away all our attacking threat, but two players who could hold the ball up and keep it through power and pace. Puncheon had the added benefit of keeping Risse from going forward. What's most perplexing is that this is at odds with our attacking philosophy. Inviting pressure onto our defence for 30 minutes is suicidal, especially when it is so fragile. That said, people should remember Nigel's subs and selections against Villa, which won us the game. So, let's admit Nigel made a mistake, but let's not get too over excited either - we are outside of the relegation zone, which is where we'd hope to be, and that after playing four of the best teams in the league (three away from home). Our defence as we know is going to be frustrating, but at the moment our attacking strength is doing enough to counter that. We're out of the bottom three and having a go in every game - which is more than the likes of QPR, Reading or Villa are doing. SaintJD
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2:23pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Dickosfc says...

Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?
Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font? Dickosfc
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2:23pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
Dunno about anyone else but i'm hoping for Ali Dia failing that Neil Shipperley should suffice
That could be the thread Alicesdad is looking for. It would have been the dreadful ticketing since the start of the season but that's been done to death, too.

However, one mention of Shipperley and the poor refereeing made me think. So, here's the question: what, in others' opinions, is the worst decision EVER to go against us.

The link being that I happened to say to big little strassie at the weekend that I remember a cup match at Old Trafford (circa late '90s) when we were losing 1-0 and battering the Manure goal. Shippers rose and headed home only for the goal to be disallowed because he 'fouled' the defender. It was a refereeing shocker. Manure broke and (Scholes, I think) scored to settle the match.

I think the ref and lino in last season's 3-0 beating of the Seagulls deserve a mention, too. The first Saints pen was a yard outside the box (as Seagull fans liked to remind us) but there were 2 (or even 3) other (one stonewall) pens not awarded, which rather made up for it.

How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game.

So, what's yours?
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: Dunno about anyone else but i'm hoping for Ali Dia failing that Neil Shipperley should suffice[/p][/quote]That could be the thread Alicesdad is looking for. It would have been the dreadful ticketing since the start of the season but that's been done to death, too. However, one mention of Shipperley and the poor refereeing made me think. So, here's the question: what, in others' opinions, is the worst decision EVER to go against us. The link being that I happened to say to big little strassie at the weekend that I remember a cup match at Old Trafford (circa late '90s) when we were losing 1-0 and battering the Manure goal. Shippers rose and headed home only for the goal to be disallowed because he 'fouled' the defender. It was a refereeing shocker. Manure broke and (Scholes, I think) scored to settle the match. I think the ref and lino in last season's 3-0 beating of the Seagulls deserve a mention, too. The first Saints pen was a yard outside the box (as Seagull fans liked to remind us) but there were 2 (or even 3) other (one stonewall) pens not awarded, which rather made up for it. How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game. So, what's yours? Strasbourg Saint
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2:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Nicole23 wrote:
Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser
Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd.
We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.
Is it a black thing? Billy Sharp I like but he not even hacking it with Notts Forest, there must be a reason for that.
[quote][p][bold]Nicole23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser[/p][/quote]Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd. We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.[/p][/quote]Is it a black thing? Billy Sharp I like but he not even hacking it with Notts Forest, there must be a reason for that. OSPREYSAINT
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2:29pm Mon 8 Oct 12

lowe esteem says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I'm getting bored now. Plenty of debate about result,subs, tactics and all the usual stuff.

We need new grist for the mill. Would some uninhibited free form thinker please come up with some inspiring subject to get the debate moving until we get the next thread.

Hurry up or the Echo will dig up some Saints Od Boy who will make some comment or other to remind us he's still alive and we'll all be asleep by tea time.

To quote an old West Stander many years ago come on "Scintillate" !!!
At your service Sir...
Regarding one of our peers misguided comments about the polishing of said turds...
They can in fact be polished to the point of a golden transparency...in fact they end up looking similar to what carlsberg produce...they can also be recycled...and a lot of the subsequent output can be seen on here today...my submission excluded of course.

Saints defended badly as a team and attacked reasonably well, though the 'strikers' -or 'attacking midfielders'?- will have been disappointed not to have weighed in with any goals.
Maybe our substitutions and subsequent performance against Man City should not have been taken out of proportion, substitutions are rarely the reason you can influence a match outcome.
We could probably have done with one or two of the 'seasoned-pro's' visible in Fulham's ranks -though unlike Tebourba I will not insist that it has to be a midfield general with ginger hair.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I'm getting bored now. Plenty of debate about result,subs, tactics and all the usual stuff. We need new grist for the mill. Would some uninhibited free form thinker please come up with some inspiring subject to get the debate moving until we get the next thread. Hurry up or the Echo will dig up some Saints Od Boy who will make some comment or other to remind us he's still alive and we'll all be asleep by tea time. To quote an old West Stander many years ago come on "Scintillate" !!![/p][/quote]At your service Sir... Regarding one of our peers misguided comments about the polishing of said turds... They can in fact be polished to the point of a golden transparency...in fact they end up looking similar to what carlsberg produce...they can also be recycled...and a lot of the subsequent output can be seen on here today...my submission excluded of course. Saints defended badly as a team and attacked reasonably well, though the 'strikers' -or 'attacking midfielders'?- will have been disappointed not to have weighed in with any goals. Maybe our substitutions and subsequent performance against Man City should not have been taken out of proportion, substitutions are rarely the reason you can influence a match outcome. We could probably have done with one or two of the 'seasoned-pro's' visible in Fulham's ranks -though unlike Tebourba I will not insist that it has to be a midfield general with ginger hair. lowe esteem
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2:30pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be. CB FRY LIVES
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2:31pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

saintmark1977 wrote:
With the injuries we had today I would have taken a point at start of play.

I remain a fan of Mr Adkins mainly because of my memories of continual manager changes when the Dark Lord was in charge together with a dislike of our previous experiences with Mr Harry who appears to be suggested as a replacement for Mr Adkins by some posters .

Having said the above Mr Adkins is not helping himself with some truely strange substitution decisions.Having taken off your three best players against Man Unt when winning why make the same mistake again today with Ricky and Punch?

On a slghtly different note am I the only one concerned that Lallana looks well out of sorts at this level?
Adam has only played in fits and starts this season.maybe the new baby is keeping him awake at night.
[quote][p][bold]saintmark1977[/bold] wrote: With the injuries we had today I would have taken a point at start of play. I remain a fan of Mr Adkins mainly because of my memories of continual manager changes when the Dark Lord was in charge together with a dislike of our previous experiences with Mr Harry who appears to be suggested as a replacement for Mr Adkins by some posters . Having said the above Mr Adkins is not helping himself with some truely strange substitution decisions.Having taken off your three best players against Man Unt when winning why make the same mistake again today with Ricky and Punch? On a slghtly different note am I the only one concerned that Lallana looks well out of sorts at this level?[/p][/quote]Adam has only played in fits and starts this season.maybe the new baby is keeping him awake at night. CB FRY LIVES
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2:34pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game.

So, what's yours?”

I can't actually remember Beats being flagged for offside but I do remember a certain left back still playing today handling on the line in the last minute of the cup final
How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game. So, what's yours?” I can't actually remember Beats being flagged for offside but I do remember a certain left back still playing today handling on the line in the last minute of the cup final SO50 Saint
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2:35pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dickosfc wrote:
Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?
It's Font, but we have always said Fontay Baby for some obscure reason.
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?[/p][/quote]It's Font, but we have always said Fontay Baby for some obscure reason. OSPREYSAINT
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2:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

Dickosfc wrote:
Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?
It's more FONT than FONTAY.

In Portuguese, there's a sort of shhhh at the end of some words.

So, say it this way:

FONTSHHHH and, unlike those who insist on adding the -AY bit, you won't be far wrong.

And so:

He's (something like) Yo-zay Fontshhh and NOT Joe-say Fontay.
[quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?[/p][/quote]It's more FONT than FONTAY. In Portuguese, there's a sort of shhhh at the end of some words. So, say it this way: FONTSHHHH and, unlike those who insist on adding the -AY bit, you won't be far wrong. And so: He's (something like) Yo-zay Fontshhh and NOT Joe-say Fontay. Strasbourg Saint
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2:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

D4n1el says...

Theres been some good comments on here... I was at the game and thought that the first half was good and we should have been about 3 up, but the second half was poor.

Also, yes yoshida had a bad game, but he was filling in at a position he is not used to.

I do also think that people shouldn't leave a game early, even if we are 10-0 behind.

Personally my highlight of the game was the silence from the fulham fans after we scored the equalliser, after they had just been singing "we're winning away, we're winning away, how **** must you be, we're winning away". That was brilliant.
Theres been some good comments on here... I was at the game and thought that the first half was good and we should have been about 3 up, but the second half was poor. Also, yes yoshida had a bad game, but he was filling in at a position he is not used to. I do also think that people shouldn't leave a game early, even if we are 10-0 behind. Personally my highlight of the game was the silence from the fulham fans after we scored the equalliser, after they had just been singing "we're winning away, we're winning away, how **** must you be, we're winning away". That was brilliant. D4n1el
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2:39pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January. CB FRY LIVES
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2:40pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate. OSPREYSAINT
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2:42pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game.

So, what's yours?”

I can't actually remember Beats being flagged for offside but I do remember a certain left back still playing today handling on the line in the last minute of the cup final
Ha!!! I nearly mentioned that one.

I was in the very back row, right behind the big screen, directly behind Ashley Cole and was screaming, (wrongly, to be fair) 'HAND BALL, HAND BALL'. It was the last minute and we needed a decision. It was sort of close, but I do remember thinking at the time - and certainly when I saw the video - okay, so it would have been nice but harsh.
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game. So, what's yours?” I can't actually remember Beats being flagged for offside but I do remember a certain left back still playing today handling on the line in the last minute of the cup final[/p][/quote]Ha!!! I nearly mentioned that one. I was in the very back row, right behind the big screen, directly behind Ashley Cole and was screaming, (wrongly, to be fair) 'HAND BALL, HAND BALL'. It was the last minute and we needed a decision. It was sort of close, but I do remember thinking at the time - and certainly when I saw the video - okay, so it would have been nice but harsh. Strasbourg Saint
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2:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.
My money for Saints manager come the end of the season is on some guy called Nigel Adkins, but then I support my (formerly) local team.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.[/p][/quote]My money for Saints manager come the end of the season is on some guy called Nigel Adkins, but then I support my (formerly) local team. Strasbourg Saint
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2:48pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
nice one teddy boy you have truly proved your own IDIOT credentials.by using 3 words instead of one.if you could count you would be a great asset to the club when Harry Ratknapp is appointed manager.by the way is your reading any good.
[quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]nice one teddy boy you have truly proved your own IDIOT credentials.by using 3 words instead of one.if you could count you would be a great asset to the club when Harry Ratknapp is appointed manager.by the way is your reading any good. CB FRY LIVES
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2:54pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SO50 Saint says...

Ha!!! I nearly mentioned that one.

I was in the very back row, right behind the big screen, directly behind Ashley Cole and was screaming, (wrongly, to be fair) 'HAND BALL, HAND BALL'. It was the last minute and we needed a decision. It was sort of close, but I do remember thinking at the time - and certainly when I saw the video - okay, so it would have been nice but harsh.”

Saints in a cup final it was definitely handball just like any close decision yesterday it should of gone our way.

Also what a lot of people are forgetting is that 2 of our better players Cork and Clyne and our best player Ramirez were missing yesterday.
Ha!!! I nearly mentioned that one. I was in the very back row, right behind the big screen, directly behind Ashley Cole and was screaming, (wrongly, to be fair) 'HAND BALL, HAND BALL'. It was the last minute and we needed a decision. It was sort of close, but I do remember thinking at the time - and certainly when I saw the video - okay, so it would have been nice but harsh.” Saints in a cup final it was definitely handball just like any close decision yesterday it should of gone our way. Also what a lot of people are forgetting is that 2 of our better players Cork and Clyne and our best player Ramirez were missing yesterday. SO50 Saint
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2:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery. CB FRY LIVES
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3:04pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
3 points?, I thought we gained one
we started the match 0-0.ended 2-2.we should have won 4-2.so i stand corrected 2 points down the drain and out of the relegation zone.maybe things aint that bad after all.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]3 points?, I thought we gained one[/p][/quote]we started the match 0-0.ended 2-2.we should have won 4-2.so i stand corrected 2 points down the drain and out of the relegation zone.maybe things aint that bad after all. CB FRY LIVES
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3:05pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.
My money for Saints manager come the end of the season is on some guy called Nigel Adkins, but then I support my (formerly) local team.
no i reckon he will be back at Scunthorpe united by then.he will get the sack in february after there is a massive fans backlash against him because he sells Ricky Lambert to Liverpool during the Jan transfer window.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.[/p][/quote]My money for Saints manager come the end of the season is on some guy called Nigel Adkins, but then I support my (formerly) local team.[/p][/quote]no i reckon he will be back at Scunthorpe united by then.he will get the sack in february after there is a massive fans backlash against him because he sells Ricky Lambert to Liverpool during the Jan transfer window. CB FRY LIVES
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3:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12

southwest saint says...

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
I do agree. Quite clearly the defence is being outclassed by every team we have played. If we had a half decent defence we would easily have 10 points by now.
I do think changes need to be made sooner rather than later.
[quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]I do agree. Quite clearly the defence is being outclassed by every team we have played. If we had a half decent defence we would easily have 10 points by now. I do think changes need to be made sooner rather than later. southwest saint
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3:15pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.[/p][/quote]i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread. CB FRY LIVES
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3:20pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Barcelona Saint says...

I think we need a bit of Heino to cheer us all up!

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=xzq_x6PlM
ws&feature=related
I think we need a bit of Heino to cheer us all up! http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=xzq_x6PlM ws&feature=related Barcelona Saint
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3:22pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Dickosfc says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Dickosfc wrote: Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?
It's more FONT than FONTAY. In Portuguese, there's a sort of shhhh at the end of some words. So, say it this way: FONTSHHHH and, unlike those who insist on adding the -AY bit, you won't be far wrong. And so: He's (something like) Yo-zay Fontshhh and NOT Joe-say Fontay.
Thanks guys! Won't get annoyed now when the commentators say "FONT"
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dickosfc[/bold] wrote: Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?[/p][/quote]It's more FONT than FONTAY. In Portuguese, there's a sort of shhhh at the end of some words. So, say it this way: FONTSHHHH and, unlike those who insist on adding the -AY bit, you won't be far wrong. And so: He's (something like) Yo-zay Fontshhh and NOT Joe-say Fontay.[/p][/quote]Thanks guys! Won't get annoyed now when the commentators say "FONT" Dickosfc
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3:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.
blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.[/p][/quote]blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other. CB FRY LIVES
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3:27pm Mon 8 Oct 12

saintkenny says...

Linesman wrote:
Is it a fitness thing?

Why can't they last for 90 minutes?
i will explain to you has you wont nderstand beind a poor deluded pompey fan adkins like to control games ,which saints had the best of for a hour .fulham changed and put subs on and were getting more of the ball.so nigel tried fresh legs ,that is why he made changes ,but he should of took off jay and put guly on for him ,not for lambert,he wanted to win 1 nil and keep it tight but the goal came a minute after .so he did make a mistake ,but he will learn to be a premier manager,the team kept the ball well and some times 20 to 30 passes.losing frasor did not help has yoshida is a middle man and was out of sorts overall a improvement .and we certainley look a lot better then your pompey promted side who failed to win away the following season .only saved by results ine notalfkrap cowshed
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Is it a fitness thing? Why can't they last for 90 minutes?[/p][/quote]i will explain to you has you wont nderstand beind a poor deluded pompey fan adkins like to control games ,which saints had the best of for a hour .fulham changed and put subs on and were getting more of the ball.so nigel tried fresh legs ,that is why he made changes ,but he should of took off jay and put guly on for him ,not for lambert,he wanted to win 1 nil and keep it tight but the goal came a minute after .so he did make a mistake ,but he will learn to be a premier manager,the team kept the ball well and some times 20 to 30 passes.losing frasor did not help has yoshida is a middle man and was out of sorts overall a improvement .and we certainley look a lot better then your pompey promted side who failed to win away the following season .only saved by results ine notalfkrap cowshed saintkenny
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3:31pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.
I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.[/p][/quote]i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets. In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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3:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

st bevois says...

Just popped in on the lunch break. Always read up but don't add much myself. Agree wth most of the comments - pro and con. Recorded the match for my dad and watched it in the cold light of "night" after seeing it live. Must say I was surprised at what I saw and did not appreciate a much watching it live. In the first half we looked good -often dangerous with the ball, created the best chances and went in 1-0 up, and having kept a good defensive shape. Other than that....we got tonked. Fulham dominated without creating anything really - but they (like Wigan) gave us a lesson in keeping possession. The front 6 spent a lot of time ball chasing and closing down - to give up 60%+ possession at home is not a good stat. Someone else posted that we have been running this stat all season - par for the course when you are playing the top clubs but not good in the matches, especially at home that you are hoping to pick up points. We lost the midfield battle and I am sure this contributed to losing the lead in the second half. Funnily enough after the break for the first quarter hour it was 50/50. Why NA took RL off is anyone's guess, He was the only striker getting into goal scoring positions from open play and missed with 3 good chances (not a good day by his standards) - he was also a far more physical threat to their defence at set pieces, but playing in the hole - he was having to expend more energy moving around the pitch a lot more. However I can't think of another manager asking his top striker who is near the top of the scoring charts and has already shown that he can breach the top defences to play out of his best position and take him off when he still looks a goal threat. I see that some people have complained about Chaps coming on - when in previous weeks most have been wondering why he wasn't even an option on the bench. Well when he did come on he did exactly what was required - he completely blocked off the right hand flank in front of Yoshiba to Fulham - they didn't get a look in (shame we didn't have a similar option on the left. Perhaps Chaps would have been a better option to play behind Punch rather than an off balance set of centre halfs - but then NA knows his players and what they can do - doesn't he? Guly actully played well when he came on - but surely he would have been better in the hole behind RL and not JR? Lallana worked hard but it wasn't the best of games for him, giving up possession on occasions - and he completey lost his man (who ghosted in behind him) for the goal - he is becoming a defensive weal link at this level and I have to agree with other posts that say that he doesn't work in a 3 man midfield By this time Fulham were bossing the midfield and pinging the ball about, the defence didn't do that badly considering the inbalance through injuries and the pressure the team was under - except for one excellent save our keeper had little to do in the way of direct threats. JH though looks suspect under pressure at the mo and why he stuck his leg out - well that's what comes from being under constant pressure Danny Fox gets a lot of criticism and he has made mistakes, but watching the re-run I have to say that he had a pretty good game - his delivery going forward was good - real quality and probably one of our biggest threats and he was fairly sound defensively contrary to some previous performances. He often had to contend with 2 on 1 overlaps with little support from midfield.
To come from behind and grab a last gasp point showed real passion - but I can't help thinking that this was another missed opportunity in a match in which most fans were hoping fo more, especially as the way team have a poor away record and were without their main striker, but except for the 2nd half against Villa we havn't won a midfield battle in any othe period and its going to be a tough long raod, but evidently more exciting than most, just hoping NA starts to learn lessons - he is not putting himself in the top set at the mo - but if we can attack with the same vigour at West Ham we can be in wth a shout. Shame on those who left early though - a mistake I made when I was 13 and Saints scored twice in the last 5 mins to win ....in 1978 I think ....never again though (leave early that is).
Just popped in on the lunch break. Always read up but don't add much myself. Agree wth most of the comments - pro and con. Recorded the match for my dad and watched it in the cold light of "night" after seeing it live. Must say I was surprised at what I saw and did not appreciate a much watching it live. In the first half we looked good -often dangerous with the ball, created the best chances and went in 1-0 up, and having kept a good defensive shape. Other than that....we got tonked. Fulham dominated without creating anything really - but they (like Wigan) gave us a lesson in keeping possession. The front 6 spent a lot of time ball chasing and closing down - to give up 60%+ possession at home is not a good stat. Someone else posted that we have been running this stat all season - par for the course when you are playing the top clubs but not good in the matches, especially at home that you are hoping to pick up points. We lost the midfield battle and I am sure this contributed to losing the lead in the second half. Funnily enough after the break for the first quarter hour it was 50/50. Why NA took RL off is anyone's guess, He was the only striker getting into goal scoring positions from open play and missed with 3 good chances (not a good day by his standards) - he was also a far more physical threat to their defence at set pieces, but playing in the hole - he was having to expend more energy moving around the pitch a lot more. However I can't think of another manager asking his top striker who is near the top of the scoring charts and has already shown that he can breach the top defences to play out of his best position and take him off when he still looks a goal threat. I see that some people have complained about Chaps coming on - when in previous weeks most have been wondering why he wasn't even an option on the bench. Well when he did come on he did exactly what was required - he completely blocked off the right hand flank in front of Yoshiba to Fulham - they didn't get a look in (shame we didn't have a similar option on the left. Perhaps Chaps would have been a better option to play behind Punch rather than an off balance set of centre halfs - but then NA knows his players and what they can do - doesn't he? Guly actully played well when he came on - but surely he would have been better in the hole behind RL and not JR? Lallana worked hard but it wasn't the best of games for him, giving up possession on occasions - and he completey lost his man (who ghosted in behind him) for the goal - he is becoming a defensive weal link at this level and I have to agree with other posts that say that he doesn't work in a 3 man midfield By this time Fulham were bossing the midfield and pinging the ball about, the defence didn't do that badly considering the inbalance through injuries and the pressure the team was under - except for one excellent save our keeper had little to do in the way of direct threats. JH though looks suspect under pressure at the mo and why he stuck his leg out - well that's what comes from being under constant pressure Danny Fox gets a lot of criticism and he has made mistakes, but watching the re-run I have to say that he had a pretty good game - his delivery going forward was good - real quality and probably one of our biggest threats and he was fairly sound defensively contrary to some previous performances. He often had to contend with 2 on 1 overlaps with little support from midfield. To come from behind and grab a last gasp point showed real passion - but I can't help thinking that this was another missed opportunity in a match in which most fans were hoping fo more, especially as the way team have a poor away record and were without their main striker, but except for the 2nd half against Villa we havn't won a midfield battle in any othe period and its going to be a tough long raod, but evidently more exciting than most, just hoping NA starts to learn lessons - he is not putting himself in the top set at the mo - but if we can attack with the same vigour at West Ham we can be in wth a shout. Shame on those who left early though - a mistake I made when I was 13 and Saints scored twice in the last 5 mins to win ....in 1978 I think ....never again though (leave early that is). st bevois
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3:53pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Mowyjoe says...

Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table its getting boring listening to it now Mowyjoe
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3:53pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Went to the game on Sunday with a mate who is a Bummouth fan. He reckons we were better than he thought we would be and played some good football. He was also slagging Fonte off before the game but was eating his words after.

Anyway, two things:

1. I thought we were too slow to press our advantage and lacked a bit of confidence in the second half. Seemed we were a tad worried about attacking and leaving ourselves open, but I guess that was understandable given the results to date and the fact we had Ramirez and Clyne out.

2. Me and my mate were both worried in the second half about Fulham's threat down the right. Several times Fox was left exposed one on one or even with two to cover (Duff and Richardson) on his own. We couldn't understand why it wasn't sorted out. Several times I saw Fox look for support that wasn't there.
Went to the game on Sunday with a mate who is a Bummouth fan. He reckons we were better than he thought we would be and played some good football. He was also slagging Fonte off before the game but was eating his words after. Anyway, two things: 1. I thought we were too slow to press our advantage and lacked a bit of confidence in the second half. Seemed we were a tad worried about attacking and leaving ourselves open, but I guess that was understandable given the results to date and the fact we had Ramirez and Clyne out. 2. Me and my mate were both worried in the second half about Fulham's threat down the right. Several times Fox was left exposed one on one or even with two to cover (Duff and Richardson) on his own. We couldn't understand why it wasn't sorted out. Several times I saw Fox look for support that wasn't there. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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3:54pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Strasbourg Saint says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
Don't really like Kronenbourg, more of an ale man myself.

No, the EU is based in Brussels, so almost ALL EU employees are up there and just pass through almost unnoticed when Parliament sits here about 10 or so times a year.

However, a totally separate European institution - the Council of Europe (CoE) - no, not the EU committee confusingly called the European Council - IS based here. It was set up by, among others Winston Churchill after WW2 and, these days, has 47 member countries (all but Belarus, maybe because they beat England's B team before the 2006 World Cup, though some say it's because they don't have an elected government).

Anyway, I have strong opinions about what I see as the mismanagement of the CoE and how some of its top brass run things, but, without it, Europe and its citizens would be less united and be denied some basic human rights. Yes, it's the CoE which runs the much (and sometimes rightly) criticised European Court of Human Rights. However, don't believe all you read in the Mail, should you ever have a legal issue and fail to find just satisfaction in the British legal systems (England/Wales or, if relevant, Scotland), then you'll be grateful for it.

Me? No, I don’t work for either the EU or CoE, I'm trying to get the whole of France to speak English, so that I don't have to learn French and so that your cheap-booze trips are a whole lot easier.

Allez Les Saints!
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]Don't really like Kronenbourg, more of an ale man myself. No, the EU is based in Brussels, so almost ALL EU employees are up there and just pass through almost unnoticed when Parliament sits here about 10 or so times a year. However, a totally separate European institution - the Council of Europe (CoE) - no, not the EU committee confusingly called the European Council - IS based here. It was set up by, among others Winston Churchill after WW2 and, these days, has 47 member countries (all but Belarus, maybe because they beat England's B team before the 2006 World Cup, though some say it's because they don't have an elected government). Anyway, I have strong opinions about what I see as the mismanagement of the CoE and how some of its top brass run things, but, without it, Europe and its citizens would be less united and be denied some basic human rights. Yes, it's the CoE which runs the much (and sometimes rightly) criticised European Court of Human Rights. However, don't believe all you read in the Mail, should you ever have a legal issue and fail to find just satisfaction in the British legal systems (England/Wales or, if relevant, Scotland), then you'll be grateful for it. Me? No, I don’t work for either the EU or CoE, I'm trying to get the whole of France to speak English, so that I don't have to learn French and so that your cheap-booze trips are a whole lot easier. Allez Les Saints! Strasbourg Saint
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4:01pm Mon 8 Oct 12

up saints says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.
I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.
not sure if any of this hate is aimed at me i dont hate guly.i just think his work rate is poor, yes he is good on the ball but must of the time he is 10 yards out of position.just my opnion
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.[/p][/quote]i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets. In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.[/p][/quote]not sure if any of this hate is aimed at me i dont hate guly.i just think his work rate is poor, yes he is good on the ball but must of the time he is 10 yards out of position.just my opnion up saints
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4:29pm Mon 8 Oct 12

spratt says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
3 points?, I thought we gained one
we started the match 0-0.ended 2-2.we should have won 4-2.so i stand corrected 2 points down the drain and out of the relegation zone.maybe things aint that bad after all.
But Reading have a game in hand. Biting nails time - again.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]3 points?, I thought we gained one[/p][/quote]we started the match 0-0.ended 2-2.we should have won 4-2.so i stand corrected 2 points down the drain and out of the relegation zone.maybe things aint that bad after all.[/p][/quote]But Reading have a game in hand. Biting nails time - again. spratt
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4:31pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

up saints wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.
I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.
not sure if any of this hate is aimed at me i dont hate guly.i just think his work rate is poor, yes he is good on the ball but must of the time he is 10 yards out of position.just my opnion
Nope it's not.

Funny how we see things differently though. I think Gulys work rate is good but sometimes his touch lets him down and he can't challenge for a header to save his life!

A mate who sits in front of me shouts and swears at him all the time. I noticed yesterday everytime Guly made a mistake, which he did, my mate went nuts but everytime he did good things, which he also did, he didn't say a word. I suppose it's about being balanced, about being fair.
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.[/p][/quote]i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets. In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.[/p][/quote]not sure if any of this hate is aimed at me i dont hate guly.i just think his work rate is poor, yes he is good on the ball but must of the time he is 10 yards out of position.just my opnion[/p][/quote]Nope it's not. Funny how we see things differently though. I think Gulys work rate is good but sometimes his touch lets him down and he can't challenge for a header to save his life! A mate who sits in front of me shouts and swears at him all the time. I noticed yesterday everytime Guly made a mistake, which he did, my mate went nuts but everytime he did good things, which he also did, he didn't say a word. I suppose it's about being balanced, about being fair. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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4:41pm Mon 8 Oct 12

SaintJD says...

To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember.

Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate.

That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen.

NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.
To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember. Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate. That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen. NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified. SaintJD
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4:50pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Bingo from Sholing says...

I was at the match. Defensive problems stem from poor organisation. Zonal marking is difficult for new and established players to perfect. I suggest close man-for-man marking. It was not all bad: I liked the longer more direct passing from the back. Fox did much better than in the previous matches I have watched at St Mary's. We will finish 12th in the table (or there abouts!)
I was at the match. Defensive problems stem from poor organisation. Zonal marking is difficult for new and established players to perfect. I suggest close man-for-man marking. It was not all bad: I liked the longer more direct passing from the back. Fox did much better than in the previous matches I have watched at St Mary's. We will finish 12th in the table (or there abouts!) Bingo from Sholing
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4:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12

warrens 76 says...

Scarborosaint wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters
whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.
Everybody is entitled to criticise , it's when it gets personal and when the same players ie fox, guly, fonte and Davies get stick regardless how they play , you sound passionate about the saints mate just trying to say criticism should be constructive not destructive.
Ps played football from Hampshire league, southern league, conference, div 2 , div 1, through to the championship and not on x-box , have been a victim of boo boys at one club, luckily it was before the social media era . Coyr
Few players purposefully put in a bad shift...we should never give stick to our crew unless we KNOW someone is lounging, seeking a transfer or cannot be bothered, this is not any in our present squad.
[quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarborosaint[/bold] wrote: Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together. To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters[/p][/quote]whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you. Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right? You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.[/p][/quote]Everybody is entitled to criticise , it's when it gets personal and when the same players ie fox, guly, fonte and Davies get stick regardless how they play , you sound passionate about the saints mate just trying to say criticism should be constructive not destructive. Ps played football from Hampshire league, southern league, conference, div 2 , div 1, through to the championship and not on x-box , have been a victim of boo boys at one club, luckily it was before the social media era . Coyr[/p][/quote]Few players purposefully put in a bad shift...we should never give stick to our crew unless we KNOW someone is lounging, seeking a transfer or cannot be bothered, this is not any in our present squad. warrens 76
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5:17pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.
blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.
The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.[/p][/quote]blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.[/p][/quote]The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll. OSPREYSAINT
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5:27pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Ted Rogers wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.
3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.
One word - Idiot
Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.
i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.
You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.
i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.
I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.
yes you could well be right.now that we are back where we belong in the big time i think that NA is out of the loop a bit.Mayuka was probably a NC signing.ditti ramirez and our 2 jap chaps.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ted Rogers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.[/p][/quote]3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.[/p][/quote]One word - Idiot[/p][/quote]Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.[/p][/quote]i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.[/p][/quote]You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults? Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom? I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.[/p][/quote]i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.[/p][/quote]I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets. In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.[/p][/quote]yes you could well be right.now that we are back where we belong in the big time i think that NA is out of the loop a bit.Mayuka was probably a NC signing.ditti ramirez and our 2 jap chaps. CB FRY LIVES
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5:30pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

hdfw09 wrote:
Very big fan of Adkins. Yet he lost more credibility today. Bad that Clyne and Gaston were out, and losing Richardson. However, Craplow (misspelling intended) and Guly as subs were atrocious moves. What the heck is he thinking? Fonte has proven he can't play defense, but at least he can score with his head. Finally proven useful.

Saints need to work on passing and positioning. We know the defense is horrible. So focus on keeping possession and making smart passes. Lucky to leave this game with 1 point.

Very concerned about relegation, but remain focused on supporting the Saints.
COYR
hopefully we will stay up.maybe it will be another dave merrington last day of the season great escape.mind you we had a few scrappers in the team in those days.we could do with a franny benali to soften up the opposition these days.
[quote][p][bold]hdfw09[/bold] wrote: Very big fan of Adkins. Yet he lost more credibility today. Bad that Clyne and Gaston were out, and losing Richardson. However, Craplow (misspelling intended) and Guly as subs were atrocious moves. What the heck is he thinking? Fonte has proven he can't play defense, but at least he can score with his head. Finally proven useful. Saints need to work on passing and positioning. We know the defense is horrible. So focus on keeping possession and making smart passes. Lucky to leave this game with 1 point. Very concerned about relegation, but remain focused on supporting the Saints. COYR[/p][/quote]hopefully we will stay up.maybe it will be another dave merrington last day of the season great escape.mind you we had a few scrappers in the team in those days.we could do with a franny benali to soften up the opposition these days. CB FRY LIVES
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5:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.
blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.
The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.
yes i am a troll fo -de- roll.well have you thought of changing your name to albatros saint.you could be paraded around the ground on a stick before every st marys match.An official Saints mascot of sorts.
have you any opinions on who you would like as saints manager if or when NA GETS THE BIG HEAVE HO.i am quite happy to talk football but if you want to trade insults then thats your prerogative.but dont go all big girl blousey when someone has a dig back at you.at the end of the day we all want Saints to do well.and we are all entitled to our own point of view.its called free speech.cb fry,roger fry,cbfry lives.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.[/p][/quote]blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.[/p][/quote]The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.[/p][/quote]yes i am a troll fo -de- roll.well have you thought of changing your name to albatros saint.you could be paraded around the ground on a stick before every st marys match.An official Saints mascot of sorts. have you any opinions on who you would like as saints manager if or when NA GETS THE BIG HEAVE HO.i am quite happy to talk football but if you want to trade insults then thats your prerogative.but dont go all big girl blousey when someone has a dig back at you.at the end of the day we all want Saints to do well.and we are all entitled to our own point of view.its called free speech.cb fry,roger fry,cbfry lives. CB FRY LIVES
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5:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Velleity says...

Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now
Indeed.

Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.
[quote][p][bold]Mowyjoe[/bold] wrote: Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table its getting boring listening to it now[/p][/quote]Indeed. Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd. Velleity
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5:40pm Mon 8 Oct 12

CB FRY LIVES says...

SaintJD wrote:
To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember.

Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate.

That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen.

NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.
great point.you don't replace the teams lucky talisman.
[quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember. Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate. That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen. NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.[/p][/quote]great point.you don't replace the teams lucky talisman. CB FRY LIVES
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5:45pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
CB FRY LIVES wrote:
JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.
good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.
Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.
blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.
The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.
yes i am a troll fo -de- roll.well have you thought of changing your name to albatros saint.you could be paraded around the ground on a stick before every st marys match.An official Saints mascot of sorts.
have you any opinions on who you would like as saints manager if or when NA GETS THE BIG HEAVE HO.i am quite happy to talk football but if you want to trade insults then thats your prerogative.but dont go all big girl blousey when someone has a dig back at you.at the end of the day we all want Saints to do well.and we are all entitled to our own point of view.its called free speech.cb fry,roger fry,cbfry lives.
I will cross the managerial bridge when I come to it and I don't think I will be troubling the Forum on that score for a while. Where was the insult, I said you were a troll and you have just admitted it.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnItaly[/bold] wrote: 7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival. Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting. Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle. I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide. No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.[/p][/quote]good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.[/p][/quote]Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.[/p][/quote]blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.[/p][/quote]The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.[/p][/quote]yes i am a troll fo -de- roll.well have you thought of changing your name to albatros saint.you could be paraded around the ground on a stick before every st marys match.An official Saints mascot of sorts. have you any opinions on who you would like as saints manager if or when NA GETS THE BIG HEAVE HO.i am quite happy to talk football but if you want to trade insults then thats your prerogative.but dont go all big girl blousey when someone has a dig back at you.at the end of the day we all want Saints to do well.and we are all entitled to our own point of view.its called free speech.cb fry,roger fry,cbfry lives.[/p][/quote]I will cross the managerial bridge when I come to it and I don't think I will be troubling the Forum on that score for a while. Where was the insult, I said you were a troll and you have just admitted it. OSPREYSAINT
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5:47pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
SaintJD wrote:
To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember.

Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate.

That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen.

NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.
great point.you don't replace the teams lucky talisman.
You do if he is on his knees after giving 100%, unless you don't mind risking a serious injury.
[quote][p][bold]CB FRY LIVES[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintJD[/bold] wrote: To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember. Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate. That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen. NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.[/p][/quote]great point.you don't replace the teams lucky talisman.[/p][/quote]You do if he is on his knees after giving 100%, unless you don't mind risking a serious injury. OSPREYSAINT
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5:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now
Indeed.

Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.
That sounds like another conspiracy theory, you don't think that some of them are repeat offenders do you? Perish the thought.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mowyjoe[/bold] wrote: Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table its getting boring listening to it now[/p][/quote]Indeed. Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.[/p][/quote]That sounds like another conspiracy theory, you don't think that some of them are repeat offenders do you? Perish the thought. OSPREYSAINT
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5:54pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Velleity says...

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.[/p][/quote]By the way, to add to this: I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV. It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor. Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away. Please do let me know if you have any information. Velleity
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5:59pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.
Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores. OSPREYSAINT
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6:01pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now
Indeed.

Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.
That sounds like another conspiracy theory, you don't think that some of them are repeat offenders do you? Perish the thought.
just to let you know! I'm the real "angus"

don't listen to any other anguses, or is it
angi.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mowyjoe[/bold] wrote: Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table its getting boring listening to it now[/p][/quote]Indeed. Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.[/p][/quote]That sounds like another conspiracy theory, you don't think that some of them are repeat offenders do you? Perish the thought.[/p][/quote]just to let you know! I'm the real "angus" don't listen to any other anguses, or is it angi. angus mc coatup
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6:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Velleity wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.
I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.[/p][/quote]By the way, to add to this: I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV. It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor. Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away. Please do let me know if you have any information.[/p][/quote]I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name. OSPREYSAINT
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6:11pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.
I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.
Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.[/p][/quote]By the way, to add to this: I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV. It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor. Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away. Please do let me know if you have any information.[/p][/quote]I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.[/p][/quote]Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you. thomasupton
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6:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.
I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.
Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.
Didikais knicking the lead off the roof perhaps? I agree with you TU but you are delusional if you think all Saints fans are angels!
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.[/p][/quote]By the way, to add to this: I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV. It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor. Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away. Please do let me know if you have any information.[/p][/quote]I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.[/p][/quote]Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.[/p][/quote]Didikais knicking the lead off the roof perhaps? I agree with you TU but you are delusional if you think all Saints fans are angels! OSPREYSAINT
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6:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

All I'm saying is someone could easily reach the "Northam" from the away fans.
All I'm saying is someone could easily reach the "Northam" from the away fans. thomasupton
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6:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child says...

Absolute disgrace. I remember a mate saving me from a nasty injury at Brighton many years back when he shoved me out of the way at the last second as a full tomato sauce bottle (the glass variety) was thrown my way from the Brighton fans. If his reaction hadn't been so fast I could have been in hospital or dead. Nutters who throw things like that need locking up. They must realise the damage that can be done and should be up on attempted murder/manslaughter charges if caught! I hope you find the culprit Velleity.
Absolute disgrace. I remember a mate saving me from a nasty injury at Brighton many years back when he shoved me out of the way at the last second as a full tomato sauce bottle (the glass variety) was thrown my way from the Brighton fans. If his reaction hadn't been so fast I could have been in hospital or dead. Nutters who throw things like that need locking up. They must realise the damage that can be done and should be up on attempted murder/manslaughter charges if caught! I hope you find the culprit Velleity. Cpt. Kirk's illegitimate love child
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6:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12

slugger says...

as someone suggested above , i too wonder wether adam is the right person to be captain , he seems to be trying too hard imo and doesn't seem his old self .
as someone suggested above , i too wonder wether adam is the right person to be captain , he seems to be trying too hard imo and doesn't seem his old self . slugger
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6:27pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Velleity says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.
I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.
Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.
The angle it hit (and the force) weren't right for that.

Hopefully we'll get the little rascal and get him banned for this life and all future reincarnations.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out. So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.[/p][/quote]By the way, to add to this: I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV. It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor. Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away. Please do let me know if you have any information.[/p][/quote]I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.[/p][/quote]Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.[/p][/quote]The angle it hit (and the force) weren't right for that. Hopefully we'll get the little rascal and get him banned for this life and all future reincarnations. Velleity
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6:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12

TEBOURBA says...

velleity
There is no place for this, the culprit should be found, prosecuted by the law and banned from St Mary's for life.
I remember, when attending the 6th Round FA Cup Tie at Bradford City in 1976, Saints and Bradford supporters were in the same section of the ground, there was a surge and it was all I could do to save my young son and I from being crushed, it was very frightening and something I'll never forget.
SFC do have a duty of care and if you haven't already done so, it may be worth reporting this incident to the Club, if nothing else, they can, in future games, position more stewards close to where the incident happened and hopefully will catch the idiot if he does it again.
I hope the experience hasn't put you or your son off attending future games -- if it has -- the idiot will have won, which is the last thing any sensible person would want.
velleity There is no place for this, the culprit should be found, prosecuted by the law and banned from St Mary's for life. I remember, when attending the 6th Round FA Cup Tie at Bradford City in 1976, Saints and Bradford supporters were in the same section of the ground, there was a surge and it was all I could do to save my young son and I from being crushed, it was very frightening and something I'll never forget. SFC do have a duty of care and if you haven't already done so, it may be worth reporting this incident to the Club, if nothing else, they can, in future games, position more stewards close to where the incident happened and hopefully will catch the idiot if he does it again. I hope the experience hasn't put you or your son off attending future games -- if it has -- the idiot will have won, which is the last thing any sensible person would want. TEBOURBA
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7:18pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.
U21'S 1 down to a wicked deflection, de ja vu!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.[/p][/quote]U21'S 1 down to a wicked deflection, de ja vu! OSPREYSAINT
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7:49pm Mon 8 Oct 12

slugger says...

Saint 2701 wrote:
randre wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Little Hitler wrote:
Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.
Not sure if serious?
no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!
Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'
mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support?

Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.
On hindsight I may have gone a little over the top yesterday, a mixture of booze and being fed up with losing points. We all want whats best for the club at the end of the day, I’m just showing it sometimes more controversially than others!
With regards to Adkins, I was his biggest fan come start of season and was worried he might even land the England job! But I do think we need a change in philosophy, Adkin’s bright ideas seem to be failing, quite badly.
To the offended, I offer my apologies from a very frustrated fan (believe it or not).
takes a big person to apologise , nice one ........... we're all frustrated and show it different ways i guess .
[quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint 2701[/bold] wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.[/p][/quote]Not sure if serious?[/p][/quote]no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face![/p][/quote]Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'[/p][/quote]mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support? Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.[/p][/quote]On hindsight I may have gone a little over the top yesterday, a mixture of booze and being fed up with losing points. We all want whats best for the club at the end of the day, I’m just showing it sometimes more controversially than others! With regards to Adkins, I was his biggest fan come start of season and was worried he might even land the England job! But I do think we need a change in philosophy, Adkin’s bright ideas seem to be failing, quite badly. To the offended, I offer my apologies from a very frustrated fan (believe it or not).[/p][/quote]takes a big person to apologise , nice one ........... we're all frustrated and show it different ways i guess . slugger
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7:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

mack chinnon says...

lowe esteem wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???
There IS a new sales prevention scheme insitu at the ticket office and through the website, and the premise is to treat non-season ticket holders as a lower form of life, there are a lot of tactics involved, but it is clearly based on the assumption that 'We are Premier League' and the fans that can't attend every game are all willing to jump through endless hoops. Personal experience suggests that individual supporters are being less well looked-after this season.
S.F.C. emailed me the other day to let me know that Tottenham tickets were now on sale. Phone this number. So I did. "Hello Andersons windows" was the reply. I take it your not selling Saints tickets I said.No the number you want is........... There not very good in the ticket office.
[quote][p][bold]lowe esteem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???[/p][/quote]There IS a new sales prevention scheme insitu at the ticket office and through the website, and the premise is to treat non-season ticket holders as a lower form of life, there are a lot of tactics involved, but it is clearly based on the assumption that 'We are Premier League' and the fans that can't attend every game are all willing to jump through endless hoops. Personal experience suggests that individual supporters are being less well looked-after this season.[/p][/quote]S.F.C. emailed me the other day to let me know that Tottenham tickets were now on sale. Phone this number. So I did. "Hello Andersons windows" was the reply. I take it your not selling Saints tickets I said.No the number you want is........... There not very good in the ticket office. mack chinnon
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7:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

watching with interest the secret skunts on here. pretending to be saints fans and trying to establish themselves by posting positives and trying to show some empathy to other proper fans.

and as for the tw@t that threw that lump of metal up the northam, someone
should point the finger.because someone must have seen him chuck it.
the to$$er.
watching with interest the secret skunts on here. pretending to be saints fans and trying to establish themselves by posting positives and trying to show some empathy to other proper fans. and as for the tw@t that threw that lump of metal up the northam, someone should point the finger.because someone must have seen him chuck it. the to$$er. angus mc coatup
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8:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them. Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc. Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke. Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others. Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more. Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL. Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him. The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line. As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones. Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!! The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command, I agree. Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need. Grateful for that ! Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following Fan Supporter Poster WUM I ask so that we can categorise the people on here. dadofmy3sons
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8:09pm Mon 8 Oct 12

City Saint says...

Thornhill Saint wrote:
Jameski wrote: Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...
Any evidence (particularly as he has not featured in the last two games) for what you are saying. The crowd did sound like they could not believe they had not seen the last of Guly in the Prem when he came on, but then again maybe I am wrong and it was Chaplow:') For what it's worth I think once he pot in the game worth he played well, and we should be getting behind those who were the Red with a little bit of white and not start criticising from the word go. At least give them a chance to disgrace themselves first!
I look forward to the day that Guly steps up and proves his critics wrong: I think Jose did that against Fulham (his defending was back up to its best, his goals were just the cherry on top) and Puncheon did it against Man Ure and has been a bonding player since.

Unfortunately, and you can see this on Saints player extended highlights I'm sure, Guly did not chase down the ball enough, hold up play, attack defenders or or get into dangerous positions.

Guly is more than capable of performing at this level if he digs deeper, like Jose and Punch. And those of us who are critical of him are, in a way, as supportive for his long-term development as his fan boys because we won't let him off so easy.

If he doesn't find another gear he'll be on his way back to Seria B, which would be a shame.
[quote][p][bold]Thornhill Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jameski[/bold] wrote: Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...[/p][/quote]Any evidence (particularly as he has not featured in the last two games) for what you are saying. The crowd did sound like they could not believe they had not seen the last of Guly in the Prem when he came on, but then again maybe I am wrong and it was Chaplow:') For what it's worth I think once he pot in the game worth he played well, and we should be getting behind those who were the Red with a little bit of white and not start criticising from the word go. At least give them a chance to disgrace themselves first![/p][/quote]I look forward to the day that Guly steps up and proves his critics wrong: I think Jose did that against Fulham (his defending was back up to its best, his goals were just the cherry on top) and Puncheon did it against Man Ure and has been a bonding player since. Unfortunately, and you can see this on Saints player extended highlights I'm sure, Guly did not chase down the ball enough, hold up play, attack defenders or or get into dangerous positions. Guly is more than capable of performing at this level if he digs deeper, like Jose and Punch. And those of us who are critical of him are, in a way, as supportive for his long-term development as his fan boys because we won't let him off so easy. If he doesn't find another gear he'll be on his way back to Seria B, which would be a shame. City Saint
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8:11pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.
You missed one. "Happy Clapper"
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them. Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc. Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke. Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others. Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more. Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL. Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him. The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line. As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones. Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!! The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command, I agree. Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need. Grateful for that ! Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following Fan Supporter Poster WUM I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.[/p][/quote]You missed one. "Happy Clapper" thomasupton
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8:18pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.
U21'S 1 down to a wicked deflection, de ja vu!
Live stream http://www.thefirstr
ow.eu/watch/145777/2
/watch-manchester-un
ited-vs-southampton,
-u21.html#
1-1 now! Yellows! :O)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.[/p][/quote]U21'S 1 down to a wicked deflection, de ja vu![/p][/quote]Live stream http://www.thefirstr ow.eu/watch/145777/2 /watch-manchester-un ited-vs-southampton, -u21.html# 1-1 now! Yellows! :O) Baddesley Bill
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8:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

U21's 1 1 Jake Sinclair header
U21's 1 1 Jake Sinclair header OSPREYSAINT
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8:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.
well I'm a fan and a supporter.

that means I like my football club and love football in general.

I watch my football team every home game and shout encouragment at the team that adkins selects.that includes the less popular players as well.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them. Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc. Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke. Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others. Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more. Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL. Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him. The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line. As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones. Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!! The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command, I agree. Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need. Grateful for that ! Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following Fan Supporter Poster WUM I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.[/p][/quote]well I'm a fan and a supporter. that means I like my football club and love football in general. I watch my football team every home game and shout encouragment at the team that adkins selects.that includes the less popular players as well. angus mc coatup
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8:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

City Saint says...

chapelsaint wrote:
A bit off the current thread I am afraid, but considering the Suarez incident, should the punishment for a blatanf dive in the penalty area be the awarding of a penalty at the other end? That would soon put a stop to it!
Nice idea.
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: A bit off the current thread I am afraid, but considering the Suarez incident, should the punishment for a blatanf dive in the penalty area be the awarding of a penalty at the other end? That would soon put a stop to it![/p][/quote]Nice idea. City Saint
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8:22pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 1 up Sinclair header again
2 1 up Sinclair header again OSPREYSAINT
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8:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12

City Saint says...

SaintMax wrote:
Optimist wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
Abbey Saint wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time
like
like
This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out. Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition. # Tick 'Like' to agree # f off if you dont
Like

Except that The News already does this and it generates some random outcomes.

And before anyone berates me I only read The News to see when they will finally go bust.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Optimist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abbey Saint[/bold] wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]like[/p][/quote]This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out. Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition. # Tick 'Like' to agree # f off if you dont[/p][/quote]Like Except that The News already does this and it generates some random outcomes. And before anyone berates me I only read The News to see when they will finally go bust. City Saint
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8:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 2 a bit slack at he back
2 2 a bit slack at he back OSPREYSAINT
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8:28pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.
You missed one. "Happy Clapper"
...and another..."Tw@t"
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them. Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc. Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke. Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others. Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more. Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL. Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him. The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line. As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones. Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!! The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command, I agree. Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need. Grateful for that ! Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following Fan Supporter Poster WUM I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.[/p][/quote]You missed one. "Happy Clapper"[/p][/quote]...and another..."Tw@t" Baddesley Bill
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8:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program. thomasupton
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8:42pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what. angus mc coatup
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8:44pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping. thomasupton
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8:45pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response? thomasupton
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8:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

2 3 couple of minutes to go
2 3 couple of minutes to go OSPREYSAINT
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8:49pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
you
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]you angus mc coatup
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8:51pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
yep
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]yep angus mc coatup
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8:51pm Mon 8 Oct 12

saintshorse101 says...

so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he!

i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way.
oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?
so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he! i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way. oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want? saintshorse101
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8:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

3 3 Curtiss in Fergie time ft
3 3 Curtiss in Fergie time ft OSPREYSAINT
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8:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

JohnItaly says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2 2 a bit slack at he back
Sounds familiar.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 2 2 a bit slack at he back[/p][/quote]Sounds familiar. JohnItaly
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8:53pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense. OSPREYSAINT
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8:55pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Just heard that Ramirez could be out for six weeks, that is a real blow.
Just heard that Ramirez could be out for six weeks, that is a real blow. OSPREYSAINT
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8:56pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O) Baddesley Bill
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8:58pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Mick the Saint says...

promised land wrote:
Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.
To be fair, Hooveld wouldn't of had the time to analise wether the ball was goalbound or not, so just tried to get the block in.
[quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.[/p][/quote]To be fair, Hooveld wouldn't of had the time to analise wether the ball was goalbound or not, so just tried to get the block in. Mick the Saint
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8:58pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he!

i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way.
oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?
I think Fox played well, the substitutions cost us the game again. Adkins has done well with back to back promotions but that doesn't count for much in the premier league. I'd be over the moon this year just to stay up but at the moment it's bad decisions that are costing us. The game was there for the taking yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he! i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way. oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?[/p][/quote]I think Fox played well, the substitutions cost us the game again. Adkins has done well with back to back promotions but that doesn't count for much in the premier league. I'd be over the moon this year just to stay up but at the moment it's bad decisions that are costing us. The game was there for the taking yesterday. thomasupton
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9:00pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he!

i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way.
oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?
I think Fox played well, the substitutions cost us the game again. Adkins has done well with back to back promotions but that doesn't count for much in the premier league. I'd be over the moon this year just to stay up but at the moment it's bad decisions that are costing us. The game was there for the taking yesterday.
so f@cking what.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he! i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way. oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?[/p][/quote]I think Fox played well, the substitutions cost us the game again. Adkins has done well with back to back promotions but that doesn't count for much in the premier league. I'd be over the moon this year just to stay up but at the moment it's bad decisions that are costing us. The game was there for the taking yesterday.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what. angus mc coatup
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9:01pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!! thomasupton
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9:03pm Mon 8 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.
The previous program sellers were replaced. Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good. Did you buy a program? Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right? Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM? I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters. dadofmy3sons
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9:04pm Mon 8 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
tw4t
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]tw4t dadofmy3sons
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9:04pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.[/p][/quote]What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said. thomasupton
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9:06pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.
so f@cking what
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.[/p][/quote]What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what angus mc coatup
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9:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12

dadofmy3sons says...

I know this a forum for Saints fans
BUT
if you are a football fan you just might be interested in what is going on at Poopey.
This article is absolutely unbelievable in modern day football. If it had been on the nonsensical Football Wives it would have been laughed off.
I know this a forum for Saints fans BUT if you are a football fan you just might be interested in what is going on at Poopey. This article is absolutely unbelievable in modern day football. If it had been on the nonsensical Football Wives it would have been laughed off. dadofmy3sons
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9:07pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
3 3 Curtiss in Fergie time ft
Apparently it was Chambers with the equaliser, the Manure commentators got it wrong.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: 3 3 Curtiss in Fergie time ft[/p][/quote]Apparently it was Chambers with the equaliser, the Manure commentators got it wrong. OSPREYSAINT
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9:09pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.
Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: The previous program sellers were replaced. Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good. Did you buy a program? Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right? Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM? I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.[/p][/quote]Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right. thomasupton
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9:09pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.
Go away.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.[/p][/quote]What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.[/p][/quote]Go away. OSPREYSAINT
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9:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.
Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.
hahaha
keep going you are getting really funny now
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: The previous program sellers were replaced. Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good. Did you buy a program? Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right? Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM? I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.[/p][/quote]Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.[/p][/quote]hahaha keep going you are getting really funny now angus mc coatup
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9:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.
Go away.
No you "go away" and make room for some opinions that actually might get heard from the people that count. I'm fed up with all your "positive" posts.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.[/p][/quote]What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.[/p][/quote]Go away.[/p][/quote]No you "go away" and make room for some opinions that actually might get heard from the people that count. I'm fed up with all your "positive" posts. thomasupton
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9:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?
Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.
What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.
Go away.
No you "go away" and make room for some opinions that actually might get heard from the people that count. I'm fed up with all your "positive" posts.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?[/p][/quote]Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.[/p][/quote]What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.[/p][/quote]Go away.[/p][/quote]No you "go away" and make room for some opinions that actually might get heard from the people that count. I'm fed up with all your "positive" posts. thomasupton
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9:18pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

this site needs deskunting
someone needs to invent an inskunticide a bit smartish.
this site needs deskunting someone needs to invent an inskunticide a bit smartish. angus mc coatup
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9:19pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost. Baddesley Bill
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9:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.
Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.
hahaha
keep going you are getting really funny now
No he isn't, just getting peevish.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: The previous program sellers were replaced. Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good. Did you buy a program? Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right? Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM? I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.[/p][/quote]Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.[/p][/quote]hahaha keep going you are getting really funny now[/p][/quote]No he isn't, just getting peevish. OSPREYSAINT
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9:26pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things. thomasupton
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9:27pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

Mick the Saint wrote:
promised land wrote:
Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.
To be fair, Hooveld wouldn't of had the time to analise wether the ball was goalbound or not, so just tried to get the block in.
He just got the angle of dangle wrong, he isn't the first and won't be the last. I feel for the guy and still like him, and I know he will be a valuable squad player if he doesn't get first choice.
[quote][p][bold]Mick the Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]promised land[/bold] wrote: Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.[/p][/quote]To be fair, Hooveld wouldn't of had the time to analise wether the ball was goalbound or not, so just tried to get the block in.[/p][/quote]He just got the angle of dangle wrong, he isn't the first and won't be the last. I feel for the guy and still like him, and I know he will be a valuable squad player if he doesn't get first choice. OSPREYSAINT
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9:33pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong. OSPREYSAINT
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9:36pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Baddesley Bill says...

thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
We can compare sob stories elsewere mate...you seriously need to get a life.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]We can compare sob stories elsewere mate...you seriously need to get a life. Baddesley Bill
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9:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

loosehead says...

Flashin the pan wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.
Did you hear Adkins? "we need to learn to defend as a team" does this mean he knows are defence isn't up to defending & he wants forwards to defend?
Against Man U with us putting them under pressure we looked good but then took that pressure off of them & they won.
We can't say even with those players out we have a strong defence & if we had I could see us right up the table with the goals we've scored but worry if we don't get more points on the board before the transfer window opens again
[quote][p][bold]Flashin the pan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy. Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.[/p][/quote]Did you hear Adkins? "we need to learn to defend as a team" does this mean he knows are defence isn't up to defending & he wants forwards to defend? Against Man U with us putting them under pressure we looked good but then took that pressure off of them & they won. We can't say even with those players out we have a strong defence & if we had I could see us right up the table with the goals we've scored but worry if we don't get more points on the board before the transfer window opens again loosehead
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9:37pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change. thomasupton
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9:38pm Mon 8 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word !
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word ! slugger
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9:44pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word !
Atlast a decent response to what I said, that's what debate is all about. I'll never be a "skunt" Born and bred in Southampton and will always be red. Just passionate.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word ![/p][/quote]Atlast a decent response to what I said, that's what debate is all about. I'll never be a "skunt" Born and bred in Southampton and will always be red. Just passionate. thomasupton
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9:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.
you were as right as anyone else after we'd all read it ! .......... do us a favour eh ?
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.[/p][/quote]you were as right as anyone else after we'd all read it ! .......... do us a favour eh ? slugger
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9:46pm Mon 8 Oct 12

angus mc coatup says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.
got to give to you. you do try to keep up the pretense but in all honesty you've lost all credibility you aint fooling anybody anymore.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.[/p][/quote]got to give to you. you do try to keep up the pretense but in all honesty you've lost all credibility you aint fooling anybody anymore. angus mc coatup
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9:49pm Mon 8 Oct 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

loosehead wrote:
Flashin the pan wrote:
Velleity wrote:
loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?
Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.
'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.
Did you hear Adkins? "we need to learn to defend as a team" does this mean he knows are defence isn't up to defending & he wants forwards to defend?
Against Man U with us putting them under pressure we looked good but then took that pressure off of them & they won.
We can't say even with those players out we have a strong defence & if we had I could see us right up the table with the goals we've scored but worry if we don't get more points on the board before the transfer window opens again
Not tonight LH Thomas has given me a headache, how about your opinion about whether it is a good thing for the egg chasers to use St M in 2015?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Flashin the pan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?[/p][/quote]Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.[/p][/quote]'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy. Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.[/p][/quote]Did you hear Adkins? "we need to learn to defend as a team" does this mean he knows are defence isn't up to defending & he wants forwards to defend? Against Man U with us putting them under pressure we looked good but then took that pressure off of them & they won. We can't say even with those players out we have a strong defence & if we had I could see us right up the table with the goals we've scored but worry if we don't get more points on the board before the transfer window opens again[/p][/quote]Not tonight LH Thomas has given me a headache, how about your opinion about whether it is a good thing for the egg chasers to use St M in 2015? OSPREYSAINT
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9:49pm Mon 8 Oct 12

thomasupton says...

angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.
got to give to you. you do try to keep up the pretense but in all honesty you've lost all credibility you aint fooling anybody anymore.
"Fooling anybody" I'm a saints supporter who has different opinions to you, that's all. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.[/p][/quote]got to give to you. you do try to keep up the pretense but in all honesty you've lost all credibility you aint fooling anybody anymore.[/p][/quote]"Fooling anybody" I'm a saints supporter who has different opinions to you, that's all. Get over it. thomasupton
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9:50pm Mon 8 Oct 12

slugger says...

thomasupton wrote:
slugger wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word !
Atlast a decent response to what I said, that's what debate is all about. I'll never be a "skunt" Born and bred in Southampton and will always be red. Just passionate.
don't believe you , just trying to start a new debate(as i'm bored with this one)
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]truth is thomasupton that we were well under the cosh before anychanges were made as anyone that was there should testify .......... the question of the people taken off and brought on is a different debate (the subs were needed imo) , if it had've worked then nigel would've been called a genious ..... sadly it didn't (but it will) .......... god knows why i'm wasting my time with a skunt , guess i'm just a decent saint trying to spread the word ![/p][/quote]Atlast a decent response to what I said, that's what debate is all about. I'll never be a "skunt" Born and bred in Southampton and will always be red. Just passionate.[/p][/quote]don't believe you , just trying to start a new debate(as i'm bored with this one) slugger
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9:51pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Velleity says...

thomasupton wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
angus mc coatup wrote:
thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.
so f@cking what.
Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.
Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)
That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!
...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.
Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.
Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.
Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.
Thomas,

Saying "I was right" is not really a reasonable argument. Instead, tell us what you would have done.

Puncheon had slowed right down, Lambert was dead on his feet. Assuming you saw that, please tell us what you would have done under those circumstances? You're happy just to say that NA was "wrong" but you don't seem to offer any suggestions as to what might be better.
[quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angus mc coatup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thomasupton[/bold] wrote: Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.[/p][/quote]so f@cking what.[/p][/quote]Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.[/p][/quote]Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)[/p][/quote]That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.[/p][/quote]Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.[/p][/quote]Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.[/p][/quote]Do as you feel fit, I was right about the program sellers and about the substitutions. If Adkins doesn't stop making poor decisions I fear his days are numbered. You can all be as blinkered as you want but things have to change.[/p][/quote]Thomas, Saying "I was right" is not really a reasonable argument. Instead, tell us what you would have done. Puncheon had slowed right down, Lambert was dead on his feet. Assuming you saw that, please tell us what you would have done under those circumstances? You're happy just to say that NA was "wrong" but you don't seem to offer any suggestions as to what might be better. Velleity
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9:52pm Mon 8 Oct 12

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