Fonte rescues a point for Saints (From Daily Echo)

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Linesman wrote:
Is it a fitness thing?

Why can't they last for 90 minutes?

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

Puddletown Saint wrote:
Many positives yet still more negatives

Must learn to defend and now getting relly worried about NA at this level

Adam must play up front in a 433 - just wasted in midfield

Any jury out on Jay

Two week break and lets keep smiling

Team for West Ham

Gazza Nath Maya Jose Fox
JWP Spider Davis
Gaston Rickie Adam

Rich Jos Chappers Jay Punch and Emm COYR

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!

Saint 2701 wrote:

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.

Well! The second goal came from his wing did it not? But collectively he was as bad as the other defenders, if people think that is playing well they should support pompey!

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later

Jameski wrote:
Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later

Jameski wrote:
Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later

... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.

Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Ironic that Adkins is coming in for some criticism here for poor tactics.....SFC fans should have popped over to Dean Court when Paul Groves was the manager if they wanted to see the tactical equivalent of comparing University Challenge with TOWIE !.

Much as it pains me to say it, Adkins is one of the more analytical and tactically astute managers in the top flight. The fact that SFC are a bit short at the back (and will be even more so if Richardson has done his knee) is not really his fault.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later

... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.

I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought

1) we were crap and will be relegated
2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us.
3) and that they played below par.
4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Saint 2701 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!

Jog on you fool.

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

hates the skates wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

finally some one agrees wit me we only got promoted luckily cause he alkmost fu@ked that up aswell, he is seriously deluded about whats going on around him and if their tired that he has to take our best players of and "throw" the games, thats down to his training not bein good enough and utimately shows he is crap. though most people on here seemed to like playin the mighty donny rovers if they want him in charge!!!

Saint 2701 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'

Thornhill Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

insane saint wrote:
too p155ed off to say anything positive or negative speak later

... and maybe not as hacked off as those Fulham supporters who thought their team had done the classic Premier smash and grab, only to be thwarted by Fonte baby. How do they feel? Personally I am not bothered, we got a point, we should have had more.

I know you don't care but judging by their coments they thought

1) we were crap and will be relegated
2) The could not stand Ruiz despite his Timote perfect hair. I think he inpires in the same way Guly does for us.
3) and that they played below par.
4) A point was a good result considering their depleted strikeforce.

Saint 2701 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is! saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team! please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that. But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations. Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'

sledgerite wrote:
does anyone know why work has stopped at stapleford,have the contracters been paid whatever is due,is that what the loan is all about hope were not saddling ourselves with a mass of debt for the future.

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???

saintshorse101 wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

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Velleity wrote:
I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor.

Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness.

Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.

TEBOURBA wrote:
No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off.
But never confuse effort with achievement.
Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing!
To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days
You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands.
I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield.
Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:
I posted after the Villa game that at 90 mins Rickie was so tired he was literally on his hands and knees and unable to get up off the floor.

Keeping him on when he clearly can't last 90 mins would be madness.

Doubtless people will say that he should be OK for 90 mins, but the plain fact is he isn't OK. Keeping him on when he's exhausted will mean injuries plus will result in our playing effectively with ten men for the last ten minutes or so.

Absolutely, but he seems to be doing more than his fair share of fetching and carrying, he is supposed to be a striker, but he pops up all over the place, and one particular defensive tackle comes to mind in the first half, heavens know why he was even in that position but I am mighty glad he was. As I recall he won most of the headers against Hangeland, whereas JRod seemed end up on his butt every time.

Jameski wrote:
NC for everything he has done for our club, also likes to interfere with certain things. If you know anyone who works in the club they will tell you the same things. The man is like a dictator and only allows things to be done his way. Him wanting guly to play comes from having done all the legwork to sign him, just like with Ramirez (who is a hell of a lot better). I'm proud to be a saints supporter and fully back the club. Just saying theres a lot more to NC than people realise...

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

hedge end bob wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Bollucks to you mate everyone is free to post on here so stick your head up your own arse and look for your brains.

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

angus mc coatup wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.

that would be moanday or whingeday.

Confucious wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.

that would be moanday or whingeday.

Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

angus mc coatup wrote:

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

we!

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall

y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall


y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.

Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall



y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.

Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.

My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)

saintshorse101 wrote:

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

agreed!
anyone is allowed to comment on here by the echo but if you want to post please do some basic research about the subject you are posting about. how are `we` conceding goals yet a defenders scoring for us? what on earth does that mean? do you not know that the multi-ball system used by many clubs does not mean lots of balls on the pitch at the same time! CB`s often go forwards as Velleity says and the full backs cover, but that dosent mean that our oponents can attack us and score against us with another ball. i have read some really stupid comments on here today of which this is just one

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

I do take a certain pride from staying to the whistle...(especiall




y when we get a late goal). The hour long traffic jam out of Southampton wasn't quite so much fun though.

Should have come to the Joshua Tree then! I have always accepted you have to let the traffic die down before trying to get home.

My daughter was dead on her feet...when I suggested a swifty, she gave me the look. Then slept all the way back in the car. Kids...who needs them! :O)

Try bribery :)

Saint 2701 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!

Jog on you fool.

randre wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Any of the above posters at the game?
Ricky ran his bo11ox off and gave everything, so did Jayrod. Toss of the coin as to who to take off and Jay was going to get us free kicks.
Punch was effort throughout the game but being in the ground and not watching on telly, I could see him having a rest. Bring on Chappers and tell him to chase.
Maya is not a right back, did he moan when told to play there? It didn't look like it to me, but it made the right side a little unbalanced as he was not confident to cross in as Richardson and Clyne do.
It was a good game with scrappy spells, we will get there, it will take time.
Unfortunately none of the doomngloom remember when we were really sh!t and proper struggled because they have only being following lately.
Real fans are supporters too.
That means supporting your club .........ALL of them, including the manager!

Jog on you fool.

Dadofmy3sobs = good post
Saint 2701 = foolish post and silly comment.

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Saint 2701 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'

petethephantom wrote:
watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on
I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending
Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots,
also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect
just some thoughts
Have faith, i do I hope you do too
COYR

St Retford wrote:

petethephantom wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR

Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.

hedge end bob wrote:
I want to rant about the so called supporters that start leaving before the whistle is blown to end the game . That is their privilage but when they stop and stand at the top of the stairs so that the supporters that want to see the game cant, THERE A F..CKING MENACE. the steward just let them stand there until we started shouting at them to bugger off home or go and sit down. THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY HOME GAME IN BLOCK 4 ITCHEN NORTH. If you are one of these suporters please take note we want to see all the game even if we are 6...0 down. Thank you.

saintshorse101 wrote:

St Retford wrote:

petethephantom wrote: watching on fox from sydney oz.... i made a few observations at 2am as that was the timeit was on I thought that yoshida did not look up to this level or was continually found out, but did do some at times some desperate defending Mr Rodriguez to me from all the games i have seen him play seems rather selfish at times and with players in better positions but takes the long range low percentage shots, also from all 7 games i feel that we are not lasting the full 90 minutes, so is our fitness the factor or is it a concentration aspect just some thoughts Have faith, i do I hope you do too COYR

Well mate, I do love the fact you're watching from the other side of the world (and believe me, if it wasn't for Saints I'd join you there) but I'll take those questions. 1) Yoshida isn't a right back. He's a centre back forced into that position through injury and I thought he did ok. 2) Rodgirguez is still finding his feet and trying to show what he can do. I think he's not really being played in the position he'd like but he had a shot up front today and you can't blame him for trying to hit it while he could. 3) I think the one thing you can guarantee from a Nigel Adkins side is fitness. The science involved in this is amazing and he believes in it, and it's why Rickie came off. But we'll be ok. We missed Clyne enormously. We need to get players back to fitness over the break.

well said retford.
i to would have gone to aus and was in the process until ill health put a stop to it.
i massivley respect our fans from abroad, getting up in the early hours to watch or even just listen shows what true fans they are.
however we have some fans who just want to moan and groan, which is a shame as if they put the same effort into supporting instead st marys would be rocking! oh no wait most of the moaners wouldnt even know where st marys is!

randre wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Pardon?

I am happy for people to voice there opinions but don't start calling other fans childish names if they still have faith in our manager.

Fine, you don't want him, that is clear. I, however remember nothing positive the last time we kept changing managers. But that is my opinion. I won't call you a bum boy, or whatever childish term you used, just because your view is different.

costa gaz wrote:
Even the rose tinted brigade on here cannot fail to see that NA's tactical ability is being found out at this level.

Lamberts presence on the pitch terrified Fulham, when he was taken off the goal threat was lifted and Fulham took full advantage of this.
If he is being subbed because he is tired, then it's a huge problem that needs to be addressed.
JROD and RL is never going to work, it's one or the other and RL should get the nod every time.

Hopefully Nigel is learning from his mistakes and will adapt a different style and approach before it is too late.
(imho)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

saintshorse101 wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

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Confucious wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Spare a thought for all the moaners on here. They are only really happy when they are miserable - and Jose rather spoiled their day when he equalised.

Of course they aren't welcomed by most on here - not least because negativity breeds negativity. But remember, psychologically, people who habitually moan have a deep and compelling need to seek empathy. They have underlying problems well beyond football.

Perhaps we should set aside one day a week to pander to their needs.

that would be moanday or whingeday.

Or Tearsday or Cryday - so long as we cheer them up by explaining that things could indeed get worse before they get worse and agree that every silver lining has a cloud.

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

SouthamptonLegend wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
We have a weak defence. We all accept that. Then we had to start without Clyne. Then Richardson had to go off so we played with our best CB at RB. Then Rickie unusually missed a couple. If and when JR steps up to CF we will do better. With Clyne and Ramirez in we would have won by half time.

For those that don't like it stay at home. The next person who makes me stand up so he can leave early is going down.

Jay rod WAS playing CF!!!!

Idiot. You must have been ball watching all match like Danny Fox!!

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.

Tirau Dan wrote:
One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up.

It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table..

One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th.

One Southampton.. COYR

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.

You still don't get it do you?
I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot.
I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't .
the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games .
I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you?
I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final.
I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ?
I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not.
I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training

loosehead wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

loosehead wrote:
fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score?
How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us?
Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld?
Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals?
or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship?
Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Don't be silly LH, the best defensive tackle was by Rickie Lambert today, the £12m Player wasn't there today, stick to politics and egg chasing, it's more your style, we have enough moaners on here without you joining in with fatuous uninformed comments.

You still don't get it do you?
I played in defence for a team called Northwick & we got promoted a lot.
I followed Saints week in week out spending every penny I earn't .
the year we went down if I could afford it I went to away games .
I remember seeing the seats empty in the old dell do you?
I remember the so called fans crawling from under rocks when we had Man U in the FA Cup final.
I can see on the box that Saints defence is no good, last year you could see it & it nearly cost us promotion so why didn't the manager see it & strengthen it ?
I stopped watching football when week in week out I would go & watch a team that might play but might not.
I also remember Steele & the rest of them thumbing a lift along the avenue with crates of beer when they were suppose to be training

TEBOURBA wrote:
No one could criticise Saints for lack of effort, they ran their socks off.
But never confuse effort with achievement.
Saints had a key player out with injury but so did Fulham, thank God Berbatov wasn't playing!
To my way of thinking there isn't a guv'nor in Saints side, someone who can direct things on the pitch, put his foot on the ball, slow things down or speed things up, is in control and is a natural leader who the other players look to for inspiration,someone like Paul Scholes now or Alan Ball for Saints in the old days
You should be able to hear the captain even when sitting at the back of the stands.
I do not know of anyone in the present squad capable of successfully taking on this role and until someone emerges, I fear Saints will continue to display plenty of effort but little coordination, particularly in defence and midfield.
Lack of coordination and discipline equals conceding goals.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

Optimist wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

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OSPREYSAINT wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???

Sky and a Division One Ticket Office are the answer.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

aldermoorboy wrote:
Great game, great support, great spirit you will stay up Saints.

Alicesdad wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right.

When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Tirau Dan wrote:
One thing I hate about knockers and negative people is they never show up and apologise for their lack of faith and disloyalty when things pick up.

It's early season, we've played some of the best teams and are sitting just out of relegation. Just about all the regulars reckoned we would struggle this year and hoped to be somewhere between here and mid table..

One thing is for sure we are not the worst team in the division and will finish higher than 17th.

One Southampton.. COYR

Agreed, Dan!

Take, say, Thomasupton and 2701 - given that they are two of the worst 'knockers', it's probably appropriate to call them a pair of tits.

SaintMax wrote:

Optimist wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote:
It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

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This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out.
Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition.

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Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters

costa gaz wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1.
You are normally better than this St Ret.
If you are going to make these comments try using some facts

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition.

Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

costa gaz wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

Gazzaniger, yoshida, Steve Davis, J Rodriguez, Hooiveld... basically were not in the team that got us out of league 1.
You are normally better than this St Ret.
If you are going to make these comments try using some facts

The clue is in the word 'basically', CG.

Of the 14 players used yesterday, 9 played for Saints in League 1, while Fox signed just after promotion.

So, basically, only 4 - Gazza, Yoshida, Davis and Jay (all summer signings along with unused sub, Mayuka) fall outside Retford's logical answer.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
This walking out business is beginning to be a problem. I had a couple of guests yesterday who commented on it afterwards, they were very surprised. It also gives the skunts ammunition.

Some have said they've paid their money so they can do what they want. That is fair enough but what about the rights of those that have paid their money and don't want the suspense of the final minutes ruined by getting up and down several times?

It's why I always choose a window seat on a plane.

Would rather annoy my neighbour than have them annoy me.

It's worse in the family section where kids seem to have worse bladders than Bill and Slugger and the attention span of a goldfish crossed with a skate.

Walter K wrote:
.......Our season starts here.”

At what point are people going to stop saying this!

Walter K wrote:
.......Our season starts here.”

At what point are people going to stop saying this!

skin2000 wrote:

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

Yes it is a strange tactic bringing off players who are playing okay and are not injured. We lose all shape and direction once we bring Lambert off.

RedArmy1 wrote:
You've gotta give praise to Jose - he picked himself up after criticism and showed FIGHT and what he can do.

Look at Jos Hooiveld - he had the swagger of the main man - but yesterday his body langauage told a different story and it was no surprise to me to see him score in his own net.

JOS - GET A F*CKING GRIP !!!

We want to see you netting goals like last season - so get on with it - work harder and believe in your own ability and no more giving penalties away either.

sunday 26th october - We will be out in the pubs before the tottenham Game. No-one in Southampton are bothered by them. WE WILL BEAT THEM on the pitch and then to glorious november.

A treatt for the AWAY Fans - west brom and QPR and also for the HOME fans grabbing points at home with swansea newcastle and norwich.

Message to Adam Lallana - get some steel in the team ..and FIGHT AND WIN.

THERE IS NO FEAR AND NO SURRENDER !!!

RED ARMY 2012. WIN.
WE ARE NUMBER ONE IN THE SOUTH.

costa gaz wrote:

Alicesdad wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Anyone notice how, thanks to injury, this was basically the team that got us out of League One (but with a worse right back) and how they more than held their own against an established Premier League side? When we're firing on all cylinders we'll be deadly.

FFS, Retford, stop talking sense, you'll confuse the WUMs.

Very good point indeed. I overlooked this but you are right.

When the investment made in players starts to consistently shine through we will be fine. There is no point being a football supporter if misery and pessimism is your chosen way to show commitment and faith.

Wrong.. wrong..wrong..

Gazzaniger Steve davis, Yoshida, Rodriguez and hooiveld never featured in our league one team.
That's 5 out of 11, (who played a part on sat) hardly the same team as 2 seasons ago.

You lot stick together don't you?
Even if one of your gang is totally wrong you'll all agree.....

SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half

SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half

SaintMax wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters

whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.

SaintMax wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters

whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.

Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser

Block 34 wrote:
what are NA's subsitutions all about??? First v Man U then Sunday - Guly??? WTF... ??? Sorry but he's not up to the prem. Hint: if someone's playing well, keep him on the park!!!

tugboat wrote:
Lots of emotive comments,I dearly want the manager to stay and succeed,he has displayed his excellent man management skills and i can only assume the players like most pro players are playing to his direct instructions.
But you cant help thinking that it doesnt look like it will suddenly improve,thats the worrying bit. but has anything really changed in how were defending since the start of the season ?.
How long does NA get to get us looking solid?
I admire his "were sticking with our attacking policy",but isnt that just a bit reckless?
Better hold on tight ,looks like a typical saints season,more sleepless nights to come then ...............
By the way when jos piled in for the own goal,shouldnt he have been aware what was around him or at least get a shout,hell of a lunge,hell of a goal.A bit more composure needed.His radar needs adjusting.
There you go,not positive ,not negative but a balanced whinge.

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

randre wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'

mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support?

Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.

Rising_Son wrote:
Saint 2701, I would love you to know to opinion of Fox today. Most people think he played well.

swesaint wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
If I'm honest I was gutted by yesterdays result. First half we were excellent and the 4-2-3-1 looked like it really worked. If only we could have had another goal could of wrapped the game up quite comfortably has anyone seen the disallowed goal was it correctly ruled out or not? 2nd half we didn't have the same intensity as in the first and I was again disappointed by the subs. Yes Lambo may have been knackered but please let's get 2 goals ahead before taking him and the best player on the pitch Punch for the rest of the game or at least get to the situation where theres only 10 mins left. Slack defending again cost us but doesn't it always so no changes there and that will continue to be the way. As for all those calling for NA's head i've always been fully in support of him but some doubts are starting to creep in now but the question I ask is who would replace him? Certainly isn't anyone around at the moment and if anyone mentions that arsehole Redknapp they need there head checking. For me the biggest positive of yesterday was how good the 4-2-3-1 looked in the first half

There seems to be 2 big problems with the moaners. 1st one is judging player ability. I heard so much about puncheon being our best player and should not be subbed. Did any of you actually see what was happening at that point? We had a make shift right back who needed extra support and as the half progressed the support from punch dvindeled from occasional to never. He was standing around the halfway line waiting for the others to put a shift in and then just involve himself in attack. All people seem to see is when he gets the ball and attacks, even though he was a massive liability at that point. I would say taking him of probably saved us from conceding even further as Yoshida got a yellow and they put Richardson on. Second problem is that their seem to be top 4 ambitions in all we do. We just got promoted, we sit outside the relegation zone, yes let me repeat that - outside the relegation zone having played a far tougher schedule than the 3 teams below us.

Nicole23 wrote:

Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser

Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd.
We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

SO50 Saint wrote:
So, regarding substitutions, Nigel gets blamed if he makes them too early, blamed if he makes them too late and blamed for making the wrong ones, when, as you said, he may well have prevented further goals.”

Lol sounds about right, anyway not been enough on here about the truly awful Clattenberg who I think thought that the 28000 people there to watch and people on the TV were there to see him don't think he gave us a decision all game

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

SO50 Saint wrote:
Dunno about anyone else but i'm hoping for Ali Dia failing that Neil Shipperley should suffice

Nicole23 wrote:

Saintsayer II wrote:
I love Adkins to bits but his use of subs baffles me at times Why didn't he use Mayuka alongside Jay Rod which would have allowed Guly, who I like, to play centrally just behind them and Adam could have gone wide on either side I will have to explain this to Nigel when he phones me later to-day

To those who don't rate Guly watch his part in the eqaliser

Thats just nonsense,you cant polish a turd.
We could have done with Billy Sharp yesterday IMO.

Alicesdad wrote:
I'm getting bored now. Plenty of debate about result,subs, tactics and all the usual stuff.

We need new grist for the mill. Would some uninhibited free form thinker please come up with some inspiring subject to get the debate moving until we get the next thread.

Hurry up or the Echo will dig up some Saints Od Boy who will make some comment or other to remind us he's still alive and we'll all be asleep by tea time.

To quote an old West Stander many years ago come on "Scintillate" !!!

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

saintmark1977 wrote:
With the injuries we had today I would have taken a point at start of play.

I remain a fan of Mr Adkins mainly because of my memories of continual manager changes when the Dark Lord was in charge together with a dislike of our previous experiences with Mr Harry who appears to be suggested as a replacement for Mr Adkins by some posters .

Having said the above Mr Adkins is not helping himself with some truely strange substitution decisions.Having taken off your three best players against Man Unt when winning why make the same mistake again today with Ricky and Punch?

On a slghtly different note am I the only one concerned that Lallana looks well out of sorts at this level?

Dickosfc wrote:
Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?

Dickosfc wrote:
Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.

SO50 Saint wrote:
How about the Cup Final when Beattie was flagged for offside, so when he slotted home, Seaman had already stopped. Was it offside? Haven't watched it lately and was, of course sat at the far end on the day. But seem to remember he wasn't actually offside and that might have altered the game.

So, what's yours?”

I can't actually remember Beats being flagged for offside but I do remember a certain left back still playing today handling on the line in the last minute of the cup final

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote:
my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

3 points?, I thought we gained one

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:
Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he?

Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge.

Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

All the talk is about Harry Ratknapp and Rafa Benitez.we will probably end up with Mick McCarthy or Alex McLeish.iF either of them will be as good for the club as Lawrie MAC then they will be ok by me.Probably McLeish would be the better bet of the two if he could guarantee 1.that he will keep Saints up like he did Villa last season and 2.he will win the League cup for Saints like he did for Brum the season before last and 3.he will get on to his old boss Sir Alex and get some Man U players on loan in January.

My money for Saints manager come the end of the season is on some guy called Nigel Adkins, but then I support my (formerly) local team.

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Dickosfc wrote: Can we get something straight.... How do we pronounce Jose name? Is it Fontay or just Font?

It's more FONT than FONTAY. In Portuguese, there's a sort of shhhh at the end of some words. So, say it this way: FONTSHHHH and, unlike those who insist on adding the -AY bit, you won't be far wrong. And so: He's (something like) Yo-zay Fontshhh and NOT Joe-say Fontay.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.

Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.

Linesman wrote:
Is it a fitness thing?

Why can't they last for 90 minutes?

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.

i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.

i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.

I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

3 points?, I thought we gained one

we started the match 0-0.ended 2-2.we should have won 4-2.so i stand corrected 2 points down the drain and out of the relegation zone.maybe things aint that bad after all.

up saints wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.

i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.

I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.

not sure if any of this hate is aimed at me i dont hate guly.i just think his work rate is poor, yes he is good on the ball but must of the time he is 10 yards out of position.just my opnion

Scarborosaint wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
Love some of the positivity of some of the people on this site , if the club are to stay up the chairmen , manager staff and players alongside the supporters will play there part and must stick together.
To all those doubting Thomas 's and those part time supporters who leave the ground early and just turn up for big games and come on this site and talk absolute rubbish , criticise the players , ask for the manager to be sacked go and support another team, we don't need glory hunters

whilst I agree that positivity and support is key, if someone has spent alot of their hard earned money to go to the game, or if they often work saturdays so cant go frequently, or have 3 kids like me under 8 who I dont see during the week and the weekend is my only chance to have them meaning I cant get to all the games, that doest make me less of a supporter than you.
Criticise the players? Do you really think they all come off the field with a slap on the back when we loose, or are their mistakes highlighted and put right?
You've obvioulsy never played the game at any great level.

Everybody is entitled to criticise , it's when it gets personal and when the same players ie fox, guly, fonte and Davies get stick regardless how they play , you sound passionate about the saints mate just trying to say criticism should be constructive not destructive.
Ps played football from Hampshire league, southern league, conference, div 2 , div 1, through to the championship and not on x-box , have been a victim of boo boys at one club, luckily it was before the social media era . Coyr

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.

Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.

blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Ted Rogers wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

up saints wrote: my opinion that was 3 points chucked away why take off punch for chappers.then take off lambo for stroll in the park guly is beyond me but at least we scrapped draw.

3 points down the drain i agree.NA hasn't a clue when it comes to substitutions.hasn't he learnt from the man U debacle when he took off our 3 best attacking options.because of the injury to Richardson he only had 2 more substitutions up his sleeve.WHY TAKE OFF lambo and Punch.If he wanted to put a striker on why not take off Rodriguez and replace him with Mayuka..Guly has been off his game throughout 2012 and no way is Chaplow a wide player.not only did NA get his substitutions wrong he also picked the wrong bench.why no full back there.Danny Butterfield is worth a place on the bench at least.should have had a proper winger there too-Steve DE Riddere deserves a chance.Thank goodness Jose Fonte has suddenly found his goal scoring knack.he should give Rodriguez and Adam some lessons.Pull your socks up Adkins otherwise you will become the most despised manager since Ian Branfoot.

One word - Idiot

Ted, many thanks, you beat me to it and managed to moderate what I would have written to a somewhat more acceptable word.

i am entitled to my opinion just as much as you are to yours.what are you doing in Strasbourg anyway.have you got your snout in the EU gravy train or perchance a lager lout attatched to the Kronenbourg brewery.

You are entitled to your own opinion as any of us are. But why follow it up with abuse and insults?

Some criticise Fox or Guly or Kelvin or Fonte or Nigel or Nicola - again fair enough but why do it with hatred and venom?

I think it's more a case of style than substance that gets peoples hackles up.

i don't know about the hatred bit but i do remember the heavy metal 1980S band VENOM.as as for hackles the only hackle i know is the red hackle variety.COME ON YOU REDS.LETS get 3 points against WEST HAM.3 points against WBA and 3 points against the SPURS.then we might then all agree that NA is the best thing since sliced bread.

I agree with that. I've got my Wet Spam tickets.

In your other post you say about selling Sir RL to Liverpool. I do wonder how much say NA has on transfers - be they in or out. We have a Director of Football, Sid Little, who is very close with NC. It maybe that most decisions are made by those two.

hdfw09 wrote:
Very big fan of Adkins. Yet he lost more credibility today. Bad that Clyne and Gaston were out, and losing Richardson. However, Craplow (misspelling intended) and Guly as subs were atrocious moves. What the heck is he thinking? Fonte has proven he can't play defense, but at least he can score with his head. Finally proven useful.

Saints need to work on passing and positioning. We know the defense is horrible. So focus on keeping possession and making smart passes. Lucky to leave this game with 1 point.

Very concerned about relegation, but remain focused on supporting the Saints.
COYR

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.

Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.

blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.

The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.

Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now

SaintJD wrote:
To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember.

Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate.

That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen.

NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

JohnItaly wrote:
7 games in 4 pts on the board. The next three games will see us through a quarter of the season. On current form cannot see Saints getting more than 2 pts against WHU, Spurs & West Brom due to number of goals being shipped. An awful long way from the magical 40 pts that normally ensures Premiership survival.

Very worrying and it does beg the question if this trend continues just how long will NC wait before acting.

Does make you wonder if NC now regrets dismissing AP for what is considered by many as a non footballing matter, particularly as AP has been successful at Newcastle.

I have no wish to return to the dark days of Rupert Lowe when everytime the tide went out in the Solent a new manager was brought in on the incoming tide.

No doubt this post will receive criticism from the eternally optomistic Saints fan and they will regard me as not a true fan. I am a true fan - since 1953 - but am also a realist.

good point about Pardew.,NC should never had sacked him for non footballing reason.just another example of what a nasty little dictator NC can be.

Rubbish, you haven't a clue why he sacked him and neither do we, all you believe is the tittle tattle on the Internet and if any of that was true I would be amazed. Whether he would have been as succesful as NA has been, is hypothetical and not worth pontificating about, it's history get over it, and perhaps offer some support for the present and future management instead of the continued stream of negativity, call yourself a Saints supporter? You blab like a skate.

blab like a skate.blabber and smoke as the good captain said.do you know why Pardew was sacked..at the end of the day he is proving himself a decent premiership manager.poor old Nige is still struggling a bit.Under Pardew we won silverware.THE JOHNSTONE PAINT.Talking of which will you be cheering on Wycombe tomorrow night when they take on the hated venomous POIRPOSEMOUTH.And what about mICHAEL aPPLETON .ANY ONE OUT THERE RATE HIS PREMIERSHIP MANAGERIAL CHANCES.And what about eddie Howe.THERE are lots of guys out there who would love the chance to manage a progressive premiership club.no doubt NC is raking over the form book as we rant and rave at each other.

The late and great C B Fry must be turning his grave having his name used by a troll.

yes i am a troll fo -de- roll.well have you thought of changing your name to albatros saint.you could be paraded around the ground on a stick before every st marys match.An official Saints mascot of sorts.
have you any opinions on who you would like as saints manager if or when NA GETS THE BIG HEAVE HO.i am quite happy to talk football but if you want to trade insults then thats your prerogative.but dont go all big girl blousey when someone has a dig back at you.at the end of the day we all want Saints to do well.and we are all entitled to our own point of view.its called free speech.cb fry,roger fry,cbfry lives.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:

SaintJD wrote:
To anyone suggesting that NA was right to take off Lambert because he is not fit enough or too tired, please cast your mind back to a former Saints No.7 you may remember.

Then imagine he was subbed after 70 minutes every game due to his lack of fitness or work rate.

That's a lot of match winning, unforgettable goals we wouldn't have seen.

NA is a good manager and a couple of bad decisions doesn't change that, but please don't pretend that was justified.

great point.you don't replace the teams lucky talisman.

Velleity wrote:

Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now

Indeed.

Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Mowyjoe wrote:
Was better when we were in league one, not for the club but for the fact there were far less moaners
We get to the prem and all of a sudden all these whingers come out the woodwork expecting us to be comfortable mid table
its getting boring listening to it now

Indeed.

Over the past year or so I've become used to seeing many of the names posting on here. Suddenly, there seem to be a bundle of new names and, almost universally, they are negative. Odd.

That sounds like another conspiracy theory, you don't think that some of them are repeat offenders do you? Perish the thought.

Velleity wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.

I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.

I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.

Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

Velleity wrote:

Velleity wrote:
Can I just post a little off topic and thank the person who threw a three-quarter inch ball of lead down the terrace in the Northam end. Fortunately it was just a glancing blow; fortunately it missed my ten-year-old son next to me and fortunately it clearly hadn't travelled far or I'd have been knocked out.

So, anyone who was in seats 1040 - 1090 (approximately) in rows higher than FF: If you saw someone throw something a minute or two after half time, please do let me know. You can get hold of me at v47259@yahoo.co.uk. The security team are looking at CCTV footage but any help locating the individual would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, to add to this:

I'm getting there early for the Tottenham game and I'll be leafletting the seats it could have come from. I'm going to be offering a £100 reward for information leading to prosecution. Someone MUST have seen it and I'm going to do what I can to get the sod. If I can get it down to even a few seats the club will do the rest from the CCTV.

It was a cast piece of metal, like a flattened ball-bearing; it must have been taken along with the intention of being thrown. If it had hit my son he'd have been out cold on the floor.

Unfortunately, I don't see it as having come from the Fulham section; we're just too far away.

Please do let me know if you have any information.

I hope you get the culprit, we don't need this kind of thing besmirching the Clubs name.

Can't imagine a saints fan would have thrown it. You sure it couldn't have come from the away fans? They're not that far from you.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.

Saint 2701 wrote:

randre wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Saint 2701 wrote: Adkins has to go for that i'm afraid, fair enough we lost against Utd but today was just a joke. If us fans can see what is going to happen with this stupid subs they why cant he? Dont care that he took us up, fact is he aint good enough at this level, poor decisions all season and quite frankly were gonna go down with him in charge. Who shall we have in as manager?? Dont bother posting if your an adkins bum boy btw, not interested in your prozac influenced views.

Not sure if serious?

no hes serious, a serious nutter that is!
saint 2701 did you enjoy seeing fox have a good game today? must be upsetting for you that he played so well to day, still thats what i call fox laughing in your face! stupid subs? why is taking RL off stupid? why is taking punch off stupid? 2 attacking players off who had run themselves into the ground and 2 more defensive players on to try and hold on to the win. they got 2 lucky goals and we still came back with spirit to get another goal for the draw! RL missed a couple of sitters today and you dont criticize him nor JH for his defensive errors! sorry for being a `happy clapping positive` for not thinking like you but i would rather be positive than be like you! ffs we did not lose and we are not in the bottom 3! did you think we would win the league or something? NA gets moaned at last week for late subs and then this week for early subs! when should he make subs and who? i think you should get his mobile no. so you can tell him, thats after you have picked the team!
please dont respond as your negativity and im always right attitude is pathetic! btw NA is far more qualified than you to know when to make subs so i wouldnt call him if i were you or he might just laugh in your face!

Right mouth all mighty, i said collectively we were poor defensively and i wouldn't say Fox had a good game either, i really cant believe you think Fox played so well, won a few headers and lumped it up top, seabourne can do that.

But today im not pointing the finger at any players, Nigel has made BAD decisions, unfortuntely we cant operate without Lambert and Pucheon was playing out of his skin! obviously i wasn't expecting us to win the league but these subs are costing us points from winning situations.

Like i said, i aint interested in your crap, and looking above i think alot of people agree with me! So sit down, shut up and keep to your 'happy clapping'

mmmm, I've never had the pleasure of reading your posts before. You are truly a bitter and hateful person aren't you? Why do you continually attack and abuse supporters who support?

Maybe you could try some constructive criticism, rather than mouthing off like a petulant child.

On hindsight I may have gone a little over the top yesterday, a mixture of booze and being fed up with losing points. We all want whats best for the club at the end of the day, I’m just showing it sometimes more controversially than others!
With regards to Adkins, I was his biggest fan come start of season and was worried he might even land the England job! But I do think we need a change in philosophy, Adkin’s bright ideas seem to be failing, quite badly.
To the offended, I offer my apologies from a very frustrated fan (believe it or not).

lowe esteem wrote:

warrens 76 wrote:
Super support from those in attendance, but wtf 28.000 we are bigger than that surely, I have tried to get tickets before to no avail when we have been allegedy sold out only to see empty seats ...but what happened today ???

There IS a new sales prevention scheme insitu at the ticket office and through the website, and the premise is to treat non-season ticket holders as a lower form of life, there are a lot of tactics involved, but it is clearly based on the assumption that 'We are Premier League' and the fans that can't attend every game are all willing to jump through endless hoops. Personal experience suggests that individual supporters are being less well looked-after this season.

Thornhill Saint wrote:

Jameski wrote: Could have brought on mayuka for lambert to maintain the goal threat. Unfortunately the whole team and fans seem to drop a level when guly gets introduced. I can't ever remember him coming on as a sub and causing inspiration or excitement. Not that it's Nigel's fault that NC makes him play Guly...

Any evidence (particularly as he has not featured in the last two games) for what you are saying. The crowd did sound like they could not believe they had not seen the last of Guly in the Prem when he came on, but then again maybe I am wrong and it was Chaplow:') For what it's worth I think once he pot in the game worth he played well, and we should be getting behind those who were the Red with a little bit of white and not start criticising from the word go. At least give them a chance to disgrace themselves first!

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Can I wish our Under 21's good luck in Manchester tonight, Boruc and De Ridder are playing apparently, I will have to watch the Twitter updates for the scores.

U21'S 1 down to a wicked deflection, de ja vu!

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.

chapelsaint wrote:
A bit off the current thread I am afraid, but considering the Suarez incident, should the punishment for a blatanf dive in the penalty area be the awarding of a penalty at the other end? That would soon put a stop to it!

SaintMax wrote:

Optimist wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

Abbey Saint wrote: It's about time the Echo allowed 'most liked' and 'least liked' voting on comments like most other media. It would show up the many self important bullies/trolls on here, by allowing ALL to vote up or down each comment without having to post a reply every time

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This would be a great idea for this forum and encorouge a more healthy debate. Allow people to speak their minds without fearing site bullies or trolls to isolate their views and single them out. Nothing wrong with healthy constructive critique or ambition. # Tick 'Like' to agree # f off if you dont

thomasupton wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
I think that enough posters have now realised that the substitutions were forced, all 3 of them.
Do not kid yourselves, fitness is a problem, but not the variety that can be solved by running etc.
Jayrod neeeds to bulk up because he is going to get battered, especially when we play Stoke.
Ricky is knackered because he is playing in a different manner to which he was previously. He is doing more linking to midfield and providing oppurtunities to others.
Lallana is also being asked to run more, lots more.
Spider has adapted rally well and appears to be relishing the PL.
Steve Davis is getting to grips with the rest of the team and will improve players around him.
The defence need more time together and a decision as to who calls the line.
As for Nigel, his decisions at the time of making them appear to be the right ones.
Hindsight is fantastic and if any of the posters who slaughter him after the fact would like to make their predictions during the game and then we can all analyse them here after and completely slaughter them instead!!!
The borer made a good valid point that we do not have a general in command,
I agree.
Please can you name more than 2 in the PL and point NC in the general direction of where we can buy this player we need.
Grateful for that !
Dictionary corner.....what is the correct definitions of the following
Fan
Supporter
Poster
WUM
I ask so that we can categorise the people on here.

You missed one. "Happy Clapper"

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
2 2 a bit slack at he back

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

promised land wrote:
Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.

saintshorse101 wrote:
so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he!

i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way.
oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?

thomasupton wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:
so after a day of consideration can i just ask who now thinks fox had a bad game? for those who do can i just point out that you are watching him with a very biased mind! i said yesterday to some who thought he played poorly to check the ratings in todays papers etc. the sun gave fox 8 out of 10 as did sky! but still they and many fans must be wrong, because the fox haters cant be can they! oh fonte was MOM and got 9 out of 10 in both. but then he is our other week link in defence isnt he!

i have read some right rubbish on here the last 2 days and cant believe some can be from saints fans. NA nearly f up 2 promotions, my god think about that for a minute, we(saints) were promoted twice in 2 years, straight though the champ, playing with mostly L1 players against `bigger` clubs with better players, yet we still went straight up without going through the play offs. most fans expected at least 2 years in the champ, i thought a top 10 finish would have been great, but no under NC/NA we have shown what a great club we are and how to do things the right way.
oh and as for AP being better than NA, who knows! thats not the point though is it. AP was sacked by NC and he had his reasons for doing so, if as many think it was for off the field reasons (drinking etc) then i think it was the right decision. AP has been caught out drinking etc to the early hrs with the players on a newcastle training trip when he stated before leaving that no drinking would be allowed! is that the type of manager you want?

I think Fox played well, the substitutions cost us the game again. Adkins has done well with back to back promotions but that doesn't count for much in the premier league. I'd be over the moon this year just to stay up but at the moment it's bad decisions that are costing us. The game was there for the taking yesterday.

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.

What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
3 3 Curtiss in Fergie time ft

dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.

What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.

thomasupton wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.

Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.

What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.

Go away.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

And please tell me what was wrong with that post that deserved such a vulgar response?

Come off it Tommy you know that was a stupid post done to attract a response and you got what you deserved, just go somewhere else with your nonsense.

What nonsense ??????? It was fact. And didn't deserve what he said.

Go away.

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

dadofmy3sons wrote:
The previous program sellers were replaced.
Any employer can do this and if he feels that it is in the interests of the previous employees to not explain, then good.
Did you buy a program?
Have you not read the comments from supporters who were also there and said that the 2 later subs were needed and right?
Are you a happy clapper, or just a WUM?
I don't think you support Saints, you spend a lot more time undermining real Saint supporters.

Yes of course they can but honestly, 3 days notice. The result itself shows the substitutions were wrong. If you were all real Saints supporters you'd have some passion and Know when things aren't right.

hahaha
keep going you are getting really funny now

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.

Mick the Saint wrote:

promised land wrote:
Without doubt our biggest problem is Our defenders. They need to be more alert and aware of what's around them, too many times they panic ! Point in question Hooveld, there was no need to stick out a leg when the ball was clearly going wide of the goal. For goodness sake sort it out cos it's doing my head in, week in week out.

To be fair, Hooveld wouldn't of had the time to analise wether the ball was goalbound or not, so just tried to get the block in.

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.

Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.

Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.

Flashin the pan wrote:

Velleity wrote:

loosehead wrote: fonte scores? what happened to the top notch players we bought to score? How are we conceding goals yet a defender's scoring for us? Isn't this the second home goal by Hooiveld? Maybe if Fonte & the defence were up to it then the 12million pound player could score the goals? or why the hell did we buy attacking players when every man & his dog knew we needed to strengthen our defence even when we were in the championship? Will these expensive players stay with us if we get relegated?

Showing your lack of knowledge, my dear. Defenders with a height advantage often go forward for set pieces (those are corners and free-kicks, by the way). The reason is that they quite often score, which is quite often regarded as a GOOD thing. It's an "own goal"not a "home goal". The £12M player (who is called Gaston Ramirez, by the way, since you clearly don't know his name) was injured and not on the pitch, so he was at the least unlikely to have scored the goals. As for the rest, part of it's about the unchangeable past and part is about the unknowable future so I can't be bothered to comment. Go back to rugby football, old chap, as you clearly know nothing about association football.

'Loosehead' listen to velleity he's more knowledgeable than most or should i say he states the blatantly obvious in his remarks to you. May be Adkins could learn something from this guy.
Back to the game, it was p-ss poor, lacking premiership quality and shows saints are still a championship side struggling to find their feet against seasoned premiership sides..even average sides like Fulham. Good news is you have 3 other poor teams below you which may be a lifeline to staying in this league.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

angus mc coatup wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

so f@cking what.

Was expecting that response from you. Bet your hands hurt from all that clapping.

Bet your fingers hurt from all that wumming...have you tried helping any cancer charities lately! ;O)

That was below the belt Bill. I lost my best friend!!!!!!!!!!!!

...judging by your posts, he probably just chose to avoid you. You are nothing more than a cheap wum mate. We all have lost someone close. Most of us choose not to use it on a football forum. You choose to ignore an olive branch...do yourself a favour...get lost.

Glad you can make light of such a thing. Glad I never accepted your "Olive branch"now I know what sort of person you are. I'm not going anywhere and shall continue to post as I see things.

Please don't, I am sending you to Coventry again, thought you had reformed with a good post earlier, I got that wrong.

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Bet she was getting paid more than 6p a program.

slugger wrote:

thomasupton wrote:
Another poor decision by Adkins, 1-0 up and take off the best players and change the form. Fulham never looked liked scoring. Off go Puncheon and Lambert and straight away fulham score. Thought he may of learnt from The Man u game. Got to win our home games especially against a poor Fulham side. And first thing I see yesterday nr the ticket office was a sack truck with programs on and a "Dolly bird" waving them in the air. (The programs that is) Be