Ramirez agony: Hospital treatment for £12m Saints star (From Daily Echo)

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Saints + Wigan fan II wrote:
:(

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

Velleity wrote:
I bet Guly did it.

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

MGRA wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

No just stating the obvious. A bit like RL off + Guly on = 2 goals conceded.

SaintMax wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

typically an injury caused by bashing the muscle against the bone and often involving quadriceps muscle; without immediate compression, the ensuing hematoma and pain can be substantial.. in my experience..

Confucious wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

typically an injury caused by bashing the muscle against the bone and often involving quadriceps muscle; without immediate compression, the ensuing hematoma and pain can be substantial.. in my experience..

Great - are you saying that in fact his leg is not actually dead?

If so, that's downright good news.

I really rate Gaston, but in all honesty I couldn't see him coping with the pace of the Prem with only one leg.

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Alicesdad wrote:
Some sensible posts and everyone is keeping it in perspective.

Get well soon Gaston, but make sure you heal first.

I am most impressed by some of the medical teminology being quoted, you always knew that watching ER, Casualty and Holby City would pay off one day. Anything beyond a band aid is beyond me. No doubt the club
witch doctors are shaking their rattles and beads and all will be well.

Let's reflect that we are Premier League, we have had some bad luck, it happens, get over it.

The doom ghouls can nash their teeth, wring their hands in self pity and whine and wail, but the true fans know we will prevail. So smile !!

We have the players to get thorugh this and come out smiling and in a healthy league position.

Altogether now, "Always look on the bright side .........."

Confucious wrote:
Anyone know which leg it is that's dead?

AFC Khartoum (admittedly an ethically dodgy organisation) has a deep frozen footballer's left leg available for transfer for £1m (including fitting). This would be unaffected by the transfer rules.

The only ownside is that it's a black leg, so it will look a bit odd on Gaston.

Confucious wrote:
Anyone know which leg it is that's dead?

AFC Khartoum (admittedly an ethically dodgy organisation) has a deep frozen footballer's left leg available for transfer for £1m (including fitting). This would be unaffected by the transfer rules.

The only ownside is that it's a black leg, so it will look a bit odd on Gaston.

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

puppy saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
Sounds like Saints need to look again at their training !? This was an internal bleed, not just a "dead leg". You very rarely see that in matches, let alone training....

Wow! The first arm chair physio of the season.

No just stating the obvious. A bit like RL off + Guly on = 2 goals conceded.

So it's obvious to you that if Adkins had left SRL on the pitch then we wouldn't have conceded 2 goals?

SaintMax wrote:
thats two people who have said that so it must be true.

Rising_Son wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anyone know which leg it is that's dead?

AFC Khartoum (admittedly an ethically dodgy organisation) has a deep frozen footballer's left leg available for transfer for £1m (including fitting). This would be unaffected by the transfer rules.

The only ownside is that it's a black leg, so it will look a bit odd on Gaston.

It may look black but it is, in fact, a Sudanese Arab leg, and it is about to become poopey's new owner. Sorry Gaston.

Rising_Son wrote:

Confucious wrote:
Anyone know which leg it is that's dead?

AFC Khartoum (admittedly an ethically dodgy organisation) has a deep frozen footballer's left leg available for transfer for £1m (including fitting). This would be unaffected by the transfer rules.

The only ownside is that it's a black leg, so it will look a bit odd on Gaston.

It may look black but it is, in fact, a Sudanese Arab leg, and it is about to become poopey's new owner. Sorry Gaston.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

Gustav? Gaston surely? Is there a doctor in the house who can explain in laymans terms why this is so serious, it is obviously not a simple deadleg, there was a term used 'haematoma' which sounds awful and the fact that he needed hospitalization made it obvious that it wasn't a trivial injury. Just get well as soon as possible and it will be like a new signing all over again when you are back.

franiow wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

Gustav? Gaston surely? Is there a doctor in the house who can explain in laymans terms why this is so serious, it is obviously not a simple deadleg, there was a term used 'haematoma' which sounds awful and the fact that he needed hospitalization made it obvious that it wasn't a trivial injury. Just get well as soon as possible and it will be like a new signing all over again when you are back.

If you get a haematoma (bruise) on the outside of your leg, you get a bruise and a bump, but blood cannot escape and the result is pain and severe swelling. Gaston's was bad enough for 2 days in hospital to get swelling down. Can't see him being able to do anything for a while apart from regular trips to physio. He is going to be very bored in a country where he doesn't speak the language. Perhaps Seaborne could take him out :-)

Confucious wrote:
If there is a funeral for Gaston's dead leg I think it will be a private family-only occasion.

Nonetheless, I think it would be appropriate if the club organised a memorial service at a later date which fans could attend.

I would certainly be prepared to research the matter and deliver a fitting tribute to the late leg. A video showing clips of the best goals scored and best passes made by the leg would also be nice.

I am not normally prone to being emotional about these things, but I do think Nicola ought to consider having a large (eg six times lifesize) bronze statue of the leg made and positioned near the stadium entrance.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

Gustav? Gaston surely? Is there a doctor in the house who can explain in laymans terms why this is so serious, it is obviously not a simple deadleg, there was a term used 'haematoma' which sounds awful and the fact that he needed hospitalization made it obvious that it wasn't a trivial injury. Just get well as soon as possible and it will be like a new signing all over again when you are back.

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Poor old Nigel can’t buy a trick at the moment.
Cue The Boorer to come on here spouting the virtues of bringing in Hoddle and Eileen with her magic sponge to assist Nigel and Gaston.

randre wrote:

Mush On The Beach wrote:
Poor old Nigel can’t buy a trick at the moment.
Cue The Boorer to come on here spouting the virtues of bringing in Hoddle and Eileen with her magic sponge to assist Nigel and Gaston.

Oh yes, I can't wait for that... Followed by the stream of endless abuse to the "rose tinted glass wearing, happy clappy fans" - and "I told you so" and "I knew our training is not Premier Standard, who in our coaching set up has Premier League experience?"...Then followed by more abuse to the SUPPORTERS who are deluded because, shock horror, they support! Followed by more "bring in Glenn NOW" then "we need more players NOW" followed by more abuse for the supporters and followed by.....

Well, you get the idea!

Puddletown Saint wrote:
I am not normally glass half empty but this start of the season does seemed jinked

Alwful set of fixtures
Terrible manager decisions
Now injuries to our star players

Glad it is the international break and that and that Adam and Rickie can br tucked up in bed......although the way it is going they would fall out LOL

COYR

JohnItaly wrote:

Puddletown Saint wrote:
I am not normally glass half empty but this start of the season does seemed jinked

Alwful set of fixtures
Terrible manager decisions
Now injuries to our star players

Glad it is the international break and that and that Adam and Rickie can br tucked up in bed......although the way it is going they would fall out LOL

COYR

The luck certainly is not with NA at the moment. Difficult start to the season - longish term injuries to Cork & Lee and now Ramirez - and substitutions not working well. Having just seen highlights of Fulham game on Saints Player thought NA looked very down before the game began with the look of a man under pressure. At half time he must have thought "what have I done wrong" as on another day Saints could easily have been 3/4 up. Then to add salt to the wound Fulham score with two massive deflections. Under these circumstances one can only keep staying positive and remembering the tide allows turns.

If NC does decide a managerial change is required hope he brings in not necessarily a good one but a licky one.

SaintJD wrote:
Serious suggestion - couldn't Puncheon provide cover at right back? I thought NA may have tried that on Sunday - got to be more comfortable there than Maya, due to his pace and strength. Would still need to get forward though as wouldn't want to lose his attacking threat, but Clyne seems to do OK in that type of role on the left.

Maya is needed in the centre anyway with Fonte. I'd then go Mayuka, Rickie and Lallana as the attacking three while Ramirez is out.

St Retford wrote:

SaintJD wrote:
Serious suggestion - couldn't Puncheon provide cover at right back? I thought NA may have tried that on Sunday - got to be more comfortable there than Maya, due to his pace and strength. Would still need to get forward though as wouldn't want to lose his attacking threat, but Clyne seems to do OK in that type of role on the left.

Maya is needed in the centre anyway with Fonte. I'd then go Mayuka, Rickie and Lallana as the attacking three while Ramirez is out.

Hardly! Have you SEEN Jason Puncheon try and make a tackle?

Nor have I.

:(

Anyway, let's not dwell on the negatives. Girls Aloud are making their comeback next Saturday. O yes.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

St Retford wrote:

SaintJD wrote:
Serious suggestion - couldn't Puncheon provide cover at right back? I thought NA may have tried that on Sunday - got to be more comfortable there than Maya, due to his pace and strength. Would still need to get forward though as wouldn't want to lose his attacking threat, but Clyne seems to do OK in that type of role on the left.

Maya is needed in the centre anyway with Fonte. I'd then go Mayuka, Rickie and Lallana as the attacking three while Ramirez is out.

Hardly! Have you SEEN Jason Puncheon try and make a tackle?

Nor have I.

:(

Anyway, let's not dwell on the negatives. Girls Aloud are making their comeback next Saturday. O yes.

Are they some kind of modern day Andrews Sisters?

Block 34 wrote:
Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

WobblyCat wrote:
Sorry Guly lovers but it was indeed Guly that gave him the injury.

Dickosfc wrote:
In other news, Jos Hooiveld has tweeted that he his happy with his progress in getting the golden boot........

Block 34 wrote:
Join the protest!! email these guys!!

Email to: matchdayhospitality@

saintsfc.co.uk

Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated.

It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three.

This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans.
This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back.

It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

Velleity wrote:
I bet Guly did it.

Block 34 wrote:
Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Confucious wrote:
I wonder if it's the 13,000 "supporters" who have reappeared since 2010 that have so massively increased the whining and moaning about things at Saints.

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Just seen Owen Coyle has been sacked; Premiership experience there ... can I be the first to say that anyone who suggests him as someone who can come in and give Nigel the benefit of his knowledge is a COMPLETE KNOB!!!!!!

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Just seen Owen Coyle has been sacked; Premiership experience there ... can I be the first to say that anyone who suggests him as someone who can come in and give Nigel the benefit of his knowledge is a COMPLETE KNOB!!!!!!

Like.

You maybe the first to say it, but I'm sure many of us thought it, too.

Confucious wrote:
I wonder if it's the 13,000 "supporters" who have reappeared since 2010 that have so massively increased the whining and moaning about things at Saints.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

I hope they get stuffed.

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

I hope they get stuffed.

seconded .

Baddesley Bill wrote:

slugger wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

I hope they get stuffed.

seconded .

Tonight Matthew...I will be a Wycombe supporter. Come on Wycombe :O)

saintand266 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Tony in Liberia wrote:
Just seen Owen Coyle has been sacked; Premiership experience there ... can I be the first to say that anyone who suggests him as someone who can come in and give Nigel the benefit of his knowledge is a COMPLETE KNOB!!!!!!

Like.

You maybe the first to say it, but I'm sure many of us thought it, too.

Well said

pompey in spain wrote:
thanks osprey!!! and as for you badd bill the only good thing about you is where you were born ha ha!

Confucious wrote:
If there is a funeral for Gaston's dead leg I think it will be a private family-only occasion.

Nonetheless, I think it would be appropriate if the club organised a memorial service at a later date which fans could attend.

I would certainly be prepared to research the matter and deliver a fitting tribute to the late leg. A video showing clips of the best goals scored and best passes made by the leg would also be nice.

I am not normally prone to being emotional about these things, but I do think Nicola ought to consider having a large (eg six times lifesize) bronze statue of the leg made and positioned near the stadium entrance.

magnette wrote:
Only one dead leg? Can't he play in defence, then?

City Saint wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

vive la revolution! Declare Guerre Nucleire! I do agree with you. It's interesting how many people are starting to demand better (faster) service at half time. One day soon a fight will break out with the bar staff (some of whom are genuinely good, by the way, but many of whom are clearly taken off their desks for a few hours and asked to serve). I have to admit I left my seat at 41 mins on Sunday (horror!) for the first time ever to get the drinks in. But there really is no other choice if you want to actually HAVE a drink at halftime, and/or make it back for kickoff. Still haven't left before full time though (at least, not in Adkins' time)

Block 34 wrote:
Join the protest!! email these guys!!

Email to: matchdayhospitality@

saintsfc.co.uk

Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated.

It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three.

This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans.
This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back.

It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we really need is McDonalds one end, a KFC at the other, and perhaps a Harry Ramsden in the middle with a chinky and a Kutis somewhere close, then it would be bother the footy lets have beanfeast.

warrens 76 wrote:

Block 34 wrote:
Join the protest!! email these guys!!

Email to: matchdayhospitality@


saintsfc.co.uk

Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated.

It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three.

This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans.
This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back.

It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

Someone with some clout at the club..READ this and act on it.

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we really need is McDonalds one end, a KFC at the other, and perhaps a Harry Ramsden in the middle with a chinky and a Kutis somewhere close, then it would be bother the footy lets have beanfeast.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we really need is McDonalds one end, a KFC at the other, and perhaps a Harry Ramsden in the middle with a chinky and a Kutis somewhere close, then it would be bother the footy lets have beanfeast.

That's interesting thinking, Osprey.

Personally, I wouldn't settle for less than Joe Hart at one end, Messi at the other and perhaps Pirlo in the middle.

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

GreedySaint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Six weeks for a dead leg? What a lightweight! When we were at school we used to spend our lunch times giving each other dead legs and it never so much got us out of double maths in the afternoon.

Up your game, Gustav.

Well said I can't even quantify how many knee nudges I got at school then played in the afternoon. Man up Gaston!

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

slugger wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we really need is McDonalds one end, a KFC at the other, and perhaps a Harry Ramsden in the middle with a chinky and a Kutis somewhere close, then it would be bother the footy lets have beanfeast.

That's interesting thinking, Osprey.

Personally, I wouldn't settle for less than Joe Hart at one end, Messi at the other and perhaps Pirlo in the middle.

why don't people just eat before they go ? .......... football ground food is always gonna be a long wait for a poor over priced meal wherever you go .

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

slugger wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
What we really need is McDonalds one end, a KFC at the other, and perhaps a Harry Ramsden in the middle with a chinky and a Kutis somewhere close, then it would be bother the footy lets have beanfeast.

That's interesting thinking, Osprey.

Personally, I wouldn't settle for less than Joe Hart at one end, Messi at the other and perhaps Pirlo in the middle.

why don't people just eat before they go ? .......... football ground food is always gonna be a long wait for a poor over priced meal wherever you go .

Or join corporate.

Saintsteve7 wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

I thought I'd just about read it all on here! Our players should no longer be allowed to go near each other in training in case we get injuries? Do me a favour!
The reason the Spainiards and Italians don't train the same way as us is because they play in a different bloody league!
In this country you train to prepare for the premier league which is very physically demanding and extremely fast. Surely it doesn't take Einstein to work that out?

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

slugger wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

I thought I'd just about read it all on here! Our players should no longer be allowed to go near each other in training in case we get injuries? Do me a favour!
The reason the Spainiards and Italians don't train the same way as us is because they play in a different bloody league!
In this country you train to prepare for the premier league which is very physically demanding and extremely fast. Surely it doesn't take Einstein to work that out?

it's blatantly obvious to me that none of the wums on here are related to einstein.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali

an/german open doors training session.

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali


an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

St Retford wrote:
Do you know what would really be bad? Getting thrashed in the JPT by a League 2 side.

:(

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali


an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali



an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

using your logic ........... seasoned pro's should also know how to take penalties , free kicks , throw ins , how to defend , how to attack ........ the list is endless ..... , no need to practice because they're all pro's and if they don't know it now they never will .

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali



an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali




an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:
Do you know what would really be bad? Getting thrashed in the JPT by a League 2 side.

:(

Don't be silly, Retford. For that to happen, you'd have to be really pants.

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali





an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali

an/german open doors training session.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali




an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

using your logic ........... seasoned pro's should also know how to take penalties , free kicks , throw ins , how to defend , how to attack ........ the list is endless ..... , no need to practice because they're all pro's and if they don't know it now they never will .

not at all. they should not "practice" high risk stuff they don't neet do. You are not going to spend a day in hospital and miss 6 games through missing a pen....

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali





an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali






an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali





an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

using your logic ........... seasoned pro's should also know how to take penalties , free kicks , throw ins , how to defend , how to attack ........ the list is endless ..... , no need to practice because they're all pro's and if they don't know it now they never will .

not at all. they should not "practice" high risk stuff they don't neet do. You are not going to spend a day in hospital and miss 6 games through missing a pen....

Sorry MGRA...you are suggesting training for football should change at grass roots...that is rubbish mate.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali



an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali







an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

for goodness sake , it was an accident in training , it happens . how many times have top players injured themselves whilst warming up before a big game ? ......... loads ! ............. should they not warm up just in case ?

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali




an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali






an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

MGRA wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali






an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

using your logic ........... seasoned pro's should also know how to take penalties , free kicks , throw ins , how to defend , how to attack ........ the list is endless ..... , no need to practice because they're all pro's and if they don't know it now they never will .

not at all. they should not "practice" high risk stuff they don't neet do. You are not going to spend a day in hospital and miss 6 games through missing a pen....

Sorry MGRA...you are suggesting training for football should change at grass roots...that is rubbish mate.

grass roots training is totally dire ( and I should know ). Its out of date and technically light. I am saying that professionals should not be taking full contact training sessions. The difference between "full" contact and just short is not hard to coach. the FA our proud of their new "centre" but it will not change a single thing. He is why. How many kids at 14 have been able to play for their local team in every position, been allowed to express themselves without parents shouting in their ears..... it does not happen. Grass roots is rubbish. Continental kids have more fun, play better football and are technically superior and always will be unless we wake up. The trouble is the Premier league may be the best league in the world, but it won't help the national game.

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali








an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

for goodness sake , it was an accident in training , it happens . how many times have top players injured themselves whilst warming up before a big game ? ......... loads ! ............. should they not warm up just in case ?

yeh like I say injury in warm-up is very common ( in England ) , with no static stretches its going to be the most common incident. But a trauma injury in a training session avoidable, or much more avoidable. I am just seeing this "unlucky" start to the season differently, I am just not seeing any bad luck anywhere !?

St.Yorkie wrote:
Just have to think it was an accident! I do not think any professional footballer would go out toa injure a fellow professional.
Saying all that jealousy could be a factor?
Come on you Saints!

PTID1898 wrote:
MMMMWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHH

AAAAAAAwhat a waste of money he was then,£12 million quid and out for 6 weeks really good scouts you got down there at the lego house,has cortese loaned anymore money yet to pay your increasing wage bill? PUP

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali









an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

for goodness sake , it was an accident in training , it happens . how many times have top players injured themselves whilst warming up before a big game ? ......... loads ! ............. should they not warm up just in case ?

yeh like I say injury in warm-up is very common ( in England ) , with no static stretches its going to be the most common incident. But a trauma injury in a training session avoidable, or much more avoidable. I am just seeing this "unlucky" start to the season differently, I am just not seeing any bad luck anywhere !?

you didn't say warm up injury , i said it ......... your beef is with training . so how do you suggest the team that i support improve on defencive tactics ?

brighton saint wrote:
Get Billy Sharp back asap now ...we need him he can play left back, centre back and evenplay upfront...and score...Sharp is the man...a decent footie player that has Saints in his blood

Saintsayer II wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali







an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

But NA has the highest level coaching qualification available in Europe

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali










an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

for goodness sake , it was an accident in training , it happens . how many times have top players injured themselves whilst warming up before a big game ? ......... loads ! ............. should they not warm up just in case ?

yeh like I say injury in warm-up is very common ( in England ) , with no static stretches its going to be the most common incident. But a trauma injury in a training session avoidable, or much more avoidable. I am just seeing this "unlucky" start to the season differently, I am just not seeing any bad luck anywhere !?

you didn't say warm up injury , i said it ......... your beef is with training . so how do you suggest the team that i support improve on defencive tactics ?

illiustrated perfectly on sunday. Defend from the midfield.... but don't then substitute players that are doing that... The team that I also support are not bad defenders technically. they loose concentration but we are a team that needs the midifeld to do more than most in the Prem. hence why we should stick to 442 or 4411 and hence why JPs performance in the Fulham game was a text book example of why midfielders who can cover are worth their weight in gold. Yes he is not the best tackler but what he did was vital....

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali











an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

don't agree , every aspect of the game must come into training , stop talking gobeldegook .

or b0ll0cks as i prefer to call it .

look at this this way... the final tackle is about 1/100th of the game... then look at the risk of that... then look at how much you can achieve in training but with paired back tackling. In Karate its called "pulling the punch".... the Europeans practice this all the time and the European managers will not have full contact sessions. Just look at the stats.....The top 6 have players pull up in training with minor stuff sure, the usual, but you will hardly ever see a trauma injury in a top 6 training session. Its about being savvy... I am not blaming NA , he is only as good as his training like anyone else....

for goodness sake , it was an accident in training , it happens . how many times have top players injured themselves whilst warming up before a big game ? ......... loads ! ............. should they not warm up just in case ?

yeh like I say injury in warm-up is very common ( in England ) , with no static stretches its going to be the most common incident. But a trauma injury in a training session avoidable, or much more avoidable. I am just seeing this "unlucky" start to the season differently, I am just not seeing any bad luck anywhere !?

you didn't say warm up injury , i said it ......... your beef is with training . so how do you suggest the team that i support improve on defencive tactics ?

illiustrated perfectly on sunday. Defend from the midfield.... but don't then substitute players that are doing that... The team that I also support are not bad defenders technically. they loose concentration but we are a team that needs the midifeld to do more than most in the Prem. hence why we should stick to 442 or 4411 and hence why JPs performance in the Fulham game was a text book example of why midfielders who can cover are worth their weight in gold. Yes he is not the best tackler but what he did was vital....

last time i requote this ........ i meant how in training (as you well know) ...... you're talking out of your hole ! (imo)

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali





an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

so how would you respond to a player that failed to pull out of a contact and caused an injury like that ? also how would you instruct your players to play differently in an exhibition match and how would that advise be interwoven with a training session to minimise injury....?

St Retford wrote:
I can solve this. I know a bloke who works at the training ground and he told me Nigel organised a training session at which he ordered the entire squad to see if they could break Gaston's legs. My source says Nigel's specific words were: "Go on, snap the £15m f***er. DO IT! DO IT OR YOU'RE NOT PLAYING ON SATURDAY!"

The great irony, obviously, is we weren't even playing on Saturday. Weird, huh?

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

I hope they get stuffed.

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali






an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

so how would you respond to a player that failed to pull out of a contact and caused an injury like that ? also how would you instruct your players to play differently in an exhibition match and how would that advise be interwoven with a training session to minimise injury....?

Your thinking way too much into this. I've had situations where a player has tried to close down a player quickly in a training exercise and lost his footing. This resulted in him flat on his arse and clattering the player causing knee ligament damage. Complete accident, nothing anyone could of done and nothing to do with full contact training! It was merely a session on closing people down quickly.

I obviously should of though contacted you before I became a coach though as you could of quite easily taught me everything I needed to know without needing to train for 10 years and spend thousands of pounds! Silly me!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
I've seen three of Nigels training sessions. He took the time to explain what he was doing. Individuals coming back did light 1.2.1 training. Those that had played in the match a couple of days earlier did 'recovery training'. Those that hadn't played did a full session. He knows exactly what he's doing and has the benefit of being a qualified physio ffs!

I remember Killer taking what was effectively a career ending injury warming up at the skunts dump. Sadly this stuff happens.

St.Yorkie wrote:
It leaves me shuddering that anyone in our squad would physically try to knobble a squad member!
When all is said and done I believe we won't have that mentality in the squad!
I'm coming down for Spuds game anyone want loyalty points for Leeds away in Cup?

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

St.Yorkie wrote:
It leaves me shuddering that anyone in our squad would physically try to knobble a squad member!
When all is said and done I believe we won't have that mentality in the squad!
I'm coming down for Spuds game anyone want loyalty points for Leeds away in Cup?

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali




an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali







an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

so how would you respond to a player that failed to pull out of a contact and caused an injury like that ? also how would you instruct your players to play differently in an exhibition match and how would that advise be interwoven with a training session to minimise injury....?

Your thinking way too much into this. I've had situations where a player has tried to close down a player quickly in a training exercise and lost his footing. This resulted in him flat on his arse and clattering the player causing knee ligament damage. Complete accident, nothing anyone could of done and nothing to do with full contact training! It was merely a session on closing people down quickly.

I obviously should of though contacted you before I became a coach though as you could of quite easily taught me everything I needed to know without needing to train for 10 years and spend thousands of pounds! Silly me!

and who still refrains from static stretches because the FA tell you to even though the Human physiology dictates we are designed to benefit from the opposite. We differ. Our views of the FA are polarised. My experience is that they are unsophisticated and outdated. Still..... maybe the Spanish could learn a thing or two from us,,, maybe they could pick up some trophies maybe.... oh.... hang on a mo !!!! ;-)

St.Yorkie wrote:
Seed - if you want the loyalty points just get me a ticket and I'll be eternally grateful!
Honestly if you want them that desperately call me on 09800.......!

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Saintsteve7 wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

MGRA wrote:

slugger wrote:

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
What I can’t understand is how a serious injury like this can happen in training. A modern training ground has expert professional staff, physiotherapists, nutritionists, etc and scientific equipment to monitor heart rates, lung capacity, blood flow to muscles etc. The players are supposed to be intensively monitored and have individual fitness programmes and targets… and we are repeatedly assured that out training centre is one of the very best in the country. Yet one of our key players can be tackled in a practice game by some lummox and put out for six weeks. HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??!! A £12million pound player, paid £70,000 a week and we lose his services for 6 weeks and several vital games. That is a huge financial loss and may well cost us vital points. I repeat, HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN??

are you for real ?

no he has a point. Compared to Italian and Spanish pros, english team players are over twice as likely to get badly injured in training. training is supposed to be just that... training....

are you suggesting that players shouldn't practice tackling in training ?

yes. I am exactly saying that. If a player can not tackle by the time they are pro, they should hang up their boots.... training should not be 100% full contact for over 18s. The FA are clearly light years behind our continental cousins... training is not about "practising" full on tackles. people that disagree with this should maybe take time out to view a typical french/spanish/itali








an/german open doors training session.

read it all now ...... cannot possibly agree .

its all about getting upto date with what "training sessions" are about. what is the best use of non match time !? think this one through and then it becomes clear why we are struggling in the Prem....full contact training sessions for multi million pound players is an idiots game. Football as a contact sport has its risks and technique in tackling can minimise this, but this can be practised in ways other than the obvious. The FA are living in the 70s and their "coaching badges" are obsolete at all levels. Grade1 dictates "no static stretches" which is outdated and ridiculous. Thats at a very basic level. they have just opened a "centre of excellance" without stating where this "excellance" will come from. best practice from "where" !?

I'm an A-License coach and at no point in any of my training has a coach educator told me to implement 'full' contact training and likewise they haven't told me not to. It's a decision I've made myself as I think it's necessary. It has sweet F**k all to do with what the FA want/teach.

I feel my players need realistic training on a daily basis to prepare their minds and bodies for what's to come. At no point would any player intentionally injure a team mate but accidents do happen.

so how would you respond to a player that failed to pull out of a contact and caused an injury like that ? also how would you instruct your players to play differently in an exhibition match and how would that advise be interwoven with a training session to minimise injury....?

Your thinking way too much into this. I've had situations where a player has tried to close down a player quickly in a training exercise and lost his footing. This resulted in him flat on his arse and clattering the player causing knee ligament damage. Complete accident, nothing anyone could of done and nothing to do with full contact training! It was merely a session on closing people down quickly.

I obviously should of though contacted you before I became a coach though as you could of quite easily taught me everything I needed to know without needing to train for 10 years and spend thousands of pounds! Silly me!

and who still refrains from static stretches because the FA tell you to even though the Human physiology dictates we are designed to benefit from the opposite. We differ. Our views of the FA are polarised. My experience is that they are unsophisticated and outdated. Still..... maybe the Spanish could learn a thing or two from us,,, maybe they could pick up some trophies maybe.... oh.... hang on a mo !!!! ;-)

The FA can 'advise' me all they like! If I feel my players need to static stretch I'll do it. The FA don't own my arse they just provided my training!

On the subject of Spain, one of my coach educators was a spanish guy who learnt his trade in Spain before moving to England. His methods where not that different to the English. The problem as you say is with the grassroots game and youth football where little 'Jimmy' ,who's dad coaches his under 8's team very badly, is quite the norm. This is where we differ from the continent!

St.Yorkie wrote:
Forgotten Leicester last season when I sat next to you?
Honestly if you want the loyalty points just call me...I'm good for the cash!

St.Yorkie wrote:
Just have to think it was an accident! I do not think any professional footballer would go out toa injure a fellow professional.
Saying all that jealousy could be a factor?
Come on you Saints!

Mick the Saint wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

pompey in spain wrote:
we are still going so5o,dont worry about us.apparently cortese has been heard singing we,re only making plans for nigel! nigel just needs a helping hand! new staff being taken on at sms maybe? and some dumped?

Good luck against Wycombe tonight, the Paint Pot really isn't a bad competition if that is all there is to play for, would be nice to bring it back to Hampshire even if it is old enemy that does it.

I hope they get stuffed.

They did

costa gaz wrote:
The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans.
They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is?

I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion.
They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints
They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros.

They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider.

If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc....

I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Tirau Dan wrote:

costa gaz wrote:
The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans.
They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is?

I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion.
They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints
They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros.

They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider.

If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc....

I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

A bunch of SFC Fans who know each other and meet regularly to go to matches and support the team home and away when ever they can. I've met a lot of them on a trip back home. They made me and others on an SMS pilgrimage a super welcome. The lads understand overseas and other away fans not being able to get to games. It's also acknowledged that no matter how you watch the game the play is always interpreted differently... often lately so differently that I'd say opinions were diametrically opposed.
Some of the lads love to tease the skates on the news.. nothing wrong with that.
The problem lately is that many Saints fans are falling out over the season start and the state of the team at the moment. Some say early days some say time for a manager change.
The fact is whether you take the pos or neg side we don't know the inside view and can change nothing by having Saints fans at each others throats.
It is so much better to stand solid and support the team whether you can afford (in cash and time) to get to games or whether you can only stay home and glue yourself to dodgy live streams on your PC, HD TV. or website radio feed. Hey we are all Saints and should be trying to draw more people to the empty seats and more people to wear shirts and more people to become Saints fans.
Personally I haven't missed a game live in the new era thanks to tech.. I love getting up in the night and love listening to Bill Slugger and the guys. I enjoy all the regular posters even when I totally disagree and think some may be frustrated and impatient. What ever your views keep posting and keep strong. Give the lads in our team your support because they do need it.... watching the U18s and U21s you can see the changes made at Saints coming on.. SFC is going places. We are hanging on above the relegation places despite being dealt a rum hand last week. Mistakes for me make the man... if they are prepared to learn and work hard.. Our lads and manager are very hard working.

Come on Saints.. all over the world unite, get behind the team. Good Luck all.. SLugger Bill etc give those Skate hell... Wykeham Forever!!!!!

City Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Eh?

Scarborosaint wrote:
A dead Leg Is basically a contusion or a bruise in the muscle and can either be inter muscular or intramuscular . As with most injuries they are graded 1,2 or 3 . One is light to 3 severe. Gaston has had a grade 3 obviously and the pressure ie blood build up is contained with nowhere to go. For those old enough to remember Mark Dennis had a similar episode which meant stopping the coach at a hospital on the way back from an away game to be operated on . The recovery time is up to 6 weeks but with the use of ultrasound , stretching and rehab exercise it's likely to be less time especially with the excellent medical staff saints have
Have seen a number of people mention about a defensive coach but Andy Crosby was a defender not top level but at professional level don't remember mourinho or wenger playing at any level of great note!! Dean Wilkins has a good reputation as a coach and alongside NA I am sure they can cover the bases , nothing flash about all 3 but good solid professionals who can each bring something to the table

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Scarborosaint wrote:
A dead Leg Is basically a contusion or a bruise in the muscle and can either be inter muscular or intramuscular . As with most injuries they are graded 1,2 or 3 . One is light to 3 severe. Gaston has had a grade 3 obviously and the pressure ie blood build up is contained with nowhere to go. For those old enough to remember Mark Dennis had a similar episode which meant stopping the coach at a hospital on the way back from an away game to be operated on . The recovery time is up to 6 weeks but with the use of ultrasound , stretching and rehab exercise it's likely to be less time especially with the excellent medical staff saints have
Have seen a number of people mention about a defensive coach but Andy Crosby was a defender not top level but at professional level don't remember mourinho or wenger playing at any level of great note!! Dean Wilkins has a good reputation as a coach and alongside NA I am sure they can cover the bases , nothing flash about all 3 but good solid professionals who can each bring something to the table

The voice of reason.

Not knocking other posts, but, Scarborough, thanks for the knowledgeable info on dead legs and Ramirez's situation.

Agree about the coaching staff, too.

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
has to be learned to be done safely (i.e.for both players sake).
Lets not allow our great game bFootball regardless of recent popular opinion is a contact sport.
Tackling is still part of it,although most referees seem to disagree.
How many games have been completely turned on a big tackle in defence or midfield?
How this has lifted the team and supporters.
It is an integral part of the game.
Tackling like every aspect of footballecome a namby pamby netball like game.
Anyone who has ever played the game knows that accidents happen in training,you cant learn the game unless you train, as you intend to play.
COYR

St.Yorkie wrote:
Seed - are you coming to Leeds? I only want A ticket...need to sort out how to get it to me!
As for Costa having a moan...it's true we all get on and agree to disagree. We all see different games though we watch the same!
From Adkins' substitutions, Guly and Fox we all ahve an opinion! I tend to take it all in...as for being a WUM or Skunt, or being accused of being one of the gang - it's all up for debate!
One thing for sure we all love the Saints...

costa gaz wrote:
The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans.
They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is?

I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion.
They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints
They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros.

They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider.

If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc....

I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

costa gaz wrote:
The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans. They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is? I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion. They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros. They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider. If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc.... I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

costa gaz wrote: The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans. They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is? I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion. They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros. They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider. If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc.... I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Cobblers. I have nothing but the greatest respect for fans dotted around the globe that get up at silly o'clock to tune in on a flakey stream to follow our team. Dan, Mush, Strass, Norge and the rest - fairplay to them all. And we don't all have the same opinion about everything. My take on NC is quite different from Sluggers, makes for healthy debate in the pubs. I do object to people leaving early as it's disruptive to those that stay, is noticed by the players and wakes the opposition fans up giving them something to sing about. I cannot think of one positive relating to it. As for the skates I have always posted as me, not pretending to be one of them like you see on here and have been consistent in my view that if they don't take control of their club back via the PST they will regret the return of Chainrai. People like him damage football in general.

saintshorse101 wrote:

costa gaz wrote: The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans. They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is? I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion. They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros. They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider. If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc.... I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

costa gaz, i have never met any of the posters on this site and because of reasons i wont go into here i dont get to many games despite living in totton (i know the shame). i do however agree with most of what the majority of fans on here say. although i do have differing views on some subject, i dont agree with seed with regards to poopey for example. what i think you might be getting at is certain people who post on here get abuse from most fans when they comment on subjects. well that might be true, but i think the problem is the fact that those posters are just on here for an argument. look at some of the posts they have made and the storys they posted on. a headline yesterday said how saints had backed down over the ML suite issue, this soon got changed by certain people into NC being a control freak and always getting what he wants (despite the story saying the exact opposite). these people, the booorer, thomasuphimself etc. allways post the same thing over and over again regardless of the story and even when given the facts and pointed out that they are wrong they still persist with their anti saints, NC, NA, fans posts. that is why they get called out by the majority as poopey fans and wums. saints fans are wonderful people with diverse views on most things, but we all do have one thing in common! i mainly only post on here when i see these anti saints posts or posts that are just wrong factually. i accept other peoples views but i will not accept people who are only here as a wind up or to push their own anti ....... agenda. i am sorry if that upsets you, but i will defend my saints to the hilt and that means the whole club from owner and the chair to the manager and the players (yes all of them including guly, fox, fonte and kelv). there have been some great debates on here recently with regards to players and that debate is great! please remember i am not having a go at you i am just trying to explain whats been going on.

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bad news.we have had a lot of injuries so far this season.i think Chung was injured during training too.plus clyne.then shaw has an illness.its like the 1990s when all our so called marquee signings got crocked early in their saints career and never played for us much again.DAVID HIRST,DAVID HOWELLS,PERRY GROVES,GORDON WATSON,JOHN BERESFORD,BARRY VENNISON.Lets hope Ramirez gets over it soon we need him.

SO50 Saint wrote:
International weeks are sooooooooooo boring

SO50 Saint wrote:
International weeks are sooooooooooo boring

Redrobbo wrote:

saintshorse101 wrote:

costa gaz wrote: The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans. They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is? I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion. They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros. They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider. If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc.... I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

costa gaz, i have never met any of the posters on this site and because of reasons i wont go into here i dont get to many games despite living in totton (i know the shame). i do however agree with most of what the majority of fans on here say. although i do have differing views on some subject, i dont agree with seed with regards to poopey for example. what i think you might be getting at is certain people who post on here get abuse from most fans when they comment on subjects. well that might be true, but i think the problem is the fact that those posters are just on here for an argument. look at some of the posts they have made and the storys they posted on. a headline yesterday said how saints had backed down over the ML suite issue, this soon got changed by certain people into NC being a control freak and always getting what he wants (despite the story saying the exact opposite). these people, the booorer, thomasuphimself etc. allways post the same thing over and over again regardless of the story and even when given the facts and pointed out that they are wrong they still persist with their anti saints, NC, NA, fans posts. that is why they get called out by the majority as poopey fans and wums. saints fans are wonderful people with diverse views on most things, but we all do have one thing in common! i mainly only post on here when i see these anti saints posts or posts that are just wrong factually. i accept other peoples views but i will not accept people who are only here as a wind up or to push their own anti ....... agenda. i am sorry if that upsets you, but i will defend my saints to the hilt and that means the whole club from owner and the chair to the manager and the players (yes all of them including guly, fox, fonte and kelv). there have been some great debates on here recently with regards to players and that debate is great! please remember i am not having a go at you i am just trying to explain whats been going on.

Agree with most of this. Some people seem to think they are entitled to an input into how the club is run.The truth is they are not. Marcus brought the club, his family now own it and they seem to be happy to let Nicola Cortese run it. End of story. If he wants to sack the programme sellers he can do so, he has no obligation to me or anyone else to explain his actions.It might be better from a Public Realtions point of veiw if he employed a Spin Doctor but he obviously does not feel the need to pander to the fans.The reality is that most fans don't give a Tinker's Cuss what goes on as long as the team is successful. In the short term most fans would not care if the club went into debt if it menat that we were playing European football and winning the odd Cup. The only time they would have an issue is if the club then ran into financial difficultes, ask Pompey and Leeds fans and they were happy to go along for the ride.It's only in hindsight that they would claim that their clubs should have been run more prudently. All clubs not just Saints now treat their fans as customers, this is business first sport second. people can moand and groan about all sorts of things going on at St.Mary's it will not change a thing, even voting with your feet will not work because clubs now worship at the church of Sky, they have far more influence than any fanbase can ever hope to achieve.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bad news.we have had a lot of injuries so far this season.i think Chung was injured during training too.plus clyne.then shaw has an illness.its like the 1990s when all our so called marquee signings got crocked early in their saints career and never played for us much again.DAVID HIRST,DAVID HOWELLS,PERRY GROVES,GORDON WATSON,JOHN BERESFORD,BARRY VENNISON.Lets hope Ramirez gets over it soon we need him.

Chung was injured in Japan while on international duty.

I thought 'Flash' Gordon Watson played a lot for us, no? His career-ending injury happened just after he left, having just joined ...... um ....... Huddersfield, was it? Some dirty bu66ger made sure of that and, if my memory serves me right, got taken to court for GBH. I also think it may have been something like his second start up there after scoring a screamer in his first, but my memory might be playing tricks.

warrens 76 wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

CB FRY LIVES wrote:
bad news.we have had a lot of injuries so far this season.i think Chung was injured during training too.plus clyne.then shaw has an illness.its like the 1990s when all our so called marquee signings got crocked early in their saints career and never played for us much again.DAVID HIRST,DAVID HOWELLS,PERRY GROVES,GORDON WATSON,JOHN BERESFORD,BARRY VENNISON.Lets hope Ramirez gets over it soon we need him.

Chung was injured in Japan while on international duty.

I thought 'Flash' Gordon Watson played a lot for us, no? His career-ending injury happened just after he left, having just joined ...... um ....... Huddersfield, was it? Some dirty bu66ger made sure of that and, if my memory serves me right, got taken to court for GBH. I also think it may have been something like his second start up there after scoring a screamer in his first, but my memory might be playing tricks.

You are right...good ol Flash.

costa gaz wrote:
The GANG... the worlds greatest Southampton fans.
They are the only fans with valid opinions, disagree? then you are a wum or a skunt, whatever that is?

I can only watch my team on TV in HD, with action replays and analysis during and after the game, so my opinion doesn't count. It's seems you have to be at the stadium to have an opinion.
They are the experts on all things Southampton and the rest of us outsiders know nothing. The only real fans of the Saints
They all stay to the end of every game and will hear no criticism of their red shirted heros.

They have completely hi-jacked the echo site and if you dare post an opinion make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, they find fault in every outsider.

If you want to read more of the GANG'S opinions then why not go to the pompey news board and witness them sucking up to the pompey fans on there. .... you know who you are, seed, bill etc..etc....

I have given up arguing with idiots..., they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

SO50 Saint wrote:
With regards to catering I don't know what people really expect there's not enough room for many other catering places and its just unfortunate they are always packed if people are that desperate for a beer they will leave a couple of minutes before half time and that's completely up to them I dont mind as I stand next to an aisle anyway

mrtein wrote:
Oh God. The first thing that popped into my mind was Delgardo! heaven forbid

redsnapper wrote:

SO50 Saint wrote:
International weeks are sooooooooooo boring

Agree totally.
Boring is an understatement, I cannot understand how 80000 lost souls will turn up to watch the worlds worst team (San Marino) play Ingerlund who, in turn only deliver 1 performance with talking about every 10 years.

As for all the bollards about the new national training centre, will it make a difference I doubt it. Just an expensive place for the blazers to gather and do sweet FA.

GX Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Eh?

Why jump in with Eh? If you don't know what disinterested means, google it. Clue ... It doesn't mean uninterested.

mrtein wrote:
Oh God. The first thing that popped into my mind was Delgardo! heaven forbid

City Saint wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Eh?

Why jump in with Eh? If you don't know what disinterested means, google it. Clue ... It doesn't mean uninterested.

Lol. Well, since you ask: I know what disinterested means, as clearly do you. Why you would hope that the bar staff is disinterested is what I wonder about, with "eh", since you do clearly understand the difference. I am curious about why you hope the bar staff is disinterested. So go on then mate, do please let me know why the bar staff should be so positioned. Not trying to wind you up, just replying since you see my "eh"? And raise me a "you're stoopid".

City Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Eh?

Why jump in with Eh? If you don't know what disinterested means, google it. Clue ... It doesn't mean uninterested.

Lol. Well, since you ask: I know what disinterested means, as clearly do you. Why you would hope that the bar staff is disinterested is what I wonder about, with "eh", since you do clearly understand the difference. I am curious about why you hope the bar staff is disinterested. So go on then mate, do please let me know why the bar staff should be so positioned. Not trying to wind you up, just replying since you see my "eh"? And raise me a "you're stoopid".

GX Saint: I notice reading this back that you are a third party, apologies.

But if you can explain why anyone would hope that our bar staff ought to be disinterested, I will withdraw my "eh" and grovel appropriately.

What does the GX stand for?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

City Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

GX Saint wrote:

City Saint wrote:

St Retford wrote:

Block 34 wrote: Join the protest!! email these guys!! Email to: matchdayhospitality@ saintsfc.co.uk Now I know you guys at matchday hospitality are only really interested in big bucks from corporate sponsors, but just for a minute spare a thought for the ordinary fans - i.e. most of us - and the apalling state of catering facilities at St Mary's. If you could pass this email on to the appropriate persons (and Nicola Cortese) it would be apprecated. It has long been the case that it is not possible to get food and/or drink at half time without either leaving your seat before the end of the first half, or returning after the start of the second. Even then, the quality of service is disgraceful. Often there is no hot food, it is impossible to buy a white coffee - you have to fight through the crowd & the queues for the toilets to find milk at the back of the hall, which is often not replenished when it has run out - and beer/lager served is frequently 50% froth. Staff are clueless, disinterested, slow, or all three. This situation has endured for too long. Many fans no longer bother going to the bar due to the poor service, which results in lost takings for the catering section and disgruntled fans. This needs to be addressed. You can't get away with charging £600+ for a season ticket and then treating people this way - next season they won't be back. It's time to show you care about your supporters & give them a decent deal.

You mean 'uninterested'. I would hope that bar staff are indeed disinterested.

Eh?

Why jump in with Eh? If you don't know what disinterested means, google it. Clue ... It doesn't mean uninterested.

Lol. Well, since you ask: I know what disinterested means, as clearly do you. Why you would hope that the bar staff is disinterested is what I wonder about, with "eh", since you do clearly understand the difference. I am curious about why you hope the bar staff is disinterested. So go on then mate, do please let me know why the bar staff should be so positioned. Not trying to wind you up, just replying since you see my "eh"? And raise me a "you're stoopid".

GX Saint: I notice reading this back that you are a third party, apologies. But if you can explain why anyone would hope that our bar staff ought to be disinterested, I will withdraw my "eh" and grovel appropriately. What does the GX stand for?

The National Anthem?