Pochettino facing Ramirez dilemma

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SAINTS’ record signing Gaston Ramirez will be at the centre of a massive dilemma for boss Mauricio Pochettino this week.

For the first time since he took over at St Mary’s, Pochettino, left, is expected to have all six of his main attacking players available for selection for Sunday’s Premier League trip to Newcastle.

Injured pair Ramirez and Guly missed the stunning win over defending champions Manchester City last time out, while Adam Lallana was not deemed fit to start as he continues his comeback from injury.

But all three are now in contention again, along with Rickie Lambert, Jay Rodriguez and Jason Puncheon.

But of those six, Pochettino can only realistically start with three – and with Lambert a shoe-in, that leaves the other five, including £12m ace Ramirez, battling for just two slots.

How best to accomodate the Uruguyan’s skills in the high pressing, high energy system that accounted for Roberto Mancini’s City is the main question he will be asking himself now.

Adam Leitch's analysis of where and when Ramirez will fit in:

STRENGTH in depth is something no manager will ever complain about.

But Mauricio Pochettino will be asking himself just how he will fit some hugely talented players, including Saints’ record signing, into his team.

They say don’t change a winning side and it would be immensely harsh for any of the players that did so well to defeat Manchester City to be left out when Saints return to action at Newcastle next Sunday.

But football is, and always has been, a ruthless business and the new manager will not shy away from making whatever decisions he deems necessary to bag another win.

Beyond this weekend, the selection dilemma Pochettino faces is an indicator of similar problems
to wrestle with in the future.

They are positive ones to have. You would much rather have quality options than be desperately trying players in a losing team and hoping to find some sort of magic formula.

It will be interesting to see which way Pochettino goes. His primary problem is the attacking midfield roles.

In the current 4-2-3-1 formation we expect that, when fit and available, Rickie Lambert will be the lead striker. But there are six experienced first team players, all of whom have shown good form – one of whom cost £12m, another £7m and another who is the captain – vying for just
three spaces in the team.

That means every week that three have to sit it out.

No doubt every fan will have their own first choice preference as to who they would like to see starting.

It is a great topic for debate, and proof of how far Saints have come that they have these kind of options. And, of course, who’s to say that they won’t be expanded still further in the summer if, as seems likely, Saints retain their Premier League status.

For Pochettino it’s about picking a winning team, and that means one that fits his style of play.
So far what we have seen is Saints playing very high up the field, and working tremendously hard throughout the match to make that system pay.

Jack Cork even said you need two hearts to cope with the workload. That is not going to suit every player. For example, take Gaston Ramirez and Guly do Prado for example.

They are talented on the ball but their abilities lie with what they can conjure up when drifting and dropping into space, rather than chasing down opponents like a terrier.

Steven Davis, on the other hand, might not be quite as creative on the ball – but has a phenomenal work ethic for his team. It would seem on the face of it, therefore, that Davis would fit more easily into a Pochettino side.

But there must be some room for flair. Adam Lallana, Jason Puncheon and Jay Rodriguez are probably easier categorised as they tick the boxes of being both hard workners and creative.

So just where does Ramirez fit in?

For £12m, there is surely a plan for him. As Saints go on they will lose the element of surprise.

In the first handful of games under Pochettino, many opposition managers will still be trying to figure the new man and his tactics out.

That is, and has been, a huge bonus for Saints, but it won’t last forever. Teams will quickly get wise to it and will start to work out ways to combat some of Saints’ good work.

As they do that then Saints will inevitably need something extra, something else, something a little different – and a little special – to prove the difference.

That is where some of these hugely creative talents that didn’t make the side to face City, such as Ramirez, will surely come in.

If you have ten workhorses you can carry a mercurial player who isn’t going to buzz about all over the place ...... as long as they are able to provide you with that bit of magic that proves the difference.

This is where Saints will possibly be able to justify the inclusion of Ramirez. We haven’t really seen the Uruguayan settle yet.

We certainly haven’t even got close to seeing the best of him, or justification for a £12m price tag, beyond the odd moment here and there.

It won’t be easy for him, adjusting to a new life, a new language, a new way of football and a new culture. That is absolutely certain.

But after a season, and heading into the next campaign, he will be expected to step up and
deliver upon Saints’ considerable investment.

Looking to the future for a second rather than the here and now, that role in the hole behind Lambert is his for the taking. Lallana and Puncheon are very proficient in the wide areas and provide the kind of work that covers their respective full backs as well.

Davis might well compete for a central midfield berth, certainly if for any reason Cork or Morgan Schneiderlin are unavailable.

As for Do Prado, he looks like the fill-in man as he can play any of the attacking three positions, though back up for Ramirez is probably more likely in a Pochettino style of team.

Rodriguez has the string to his bow that he may well end up playing as the main striker anyway at some stage, though Lambert’s unbelievably brilliant fitness and form record continues unabated for now.

If not, then he is the obvious option to interchange with Ramirez for when you face a team where hard work will earn the selection over pure talent.

In the Premier League there are a good few of those days too, especially away from home.

\both in the short and long term, there is much for Pochettino to wrestle with.

But how refreshing that these seem like exciting and interesting dilemmas, rather than headaches.

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7:07am Mon 18 Feb 13

Little Hitler says...

I'm glad his dead leg has been brought back to life again.

I see Gaston flourishing under MP, his lack of impression must surely have been another reason why poor Nigel got the boot.

Undoubtably a class player who will come good under the right manager.
I'm glad his dead leg has been brought back to life again. I see Gaston flourishing under MP, his lack of impression must surely have been another reason why poor Nigel got the boot. Undoubtably a class player who will come good under the right manager. Little Hitler

7:34am Mon 18 Feb 13

Southampton boy says...

Not sure where Gaston will fit in to the way we are playing may be it will suit him better then the way NA had us playing, I would like to think he will be able to fit in as the new manager and Gaston are from south american.
A good win at Newcastle will set us up for QPR and a smashing win at home its now time for saints to make there move up the table so COYR's
Not sure where Gaston will fit in to the way we are playing may be it will suit him better then the way NA had us playing, I would like to think he will be able to fit in as the new manager and Gaston are from south american. A good win at Newcastle will set us up for QPR and a smashing win at home its now time for saints to make there move up the table so COYR's Southampton boy

8:18am Mon 18 Feb 13

costa gaz says...

There is no doubting his (Ramirez) ability, but it is a question of if he can fit into this team.
He shows flashes of skill but not nearly enough to make the starting 11.
I can see him warming the bench for a few more games until he gets an opportunity.
There is no doubting his (Ramirez) ability, but it is a question of if he can fit into this team. He shows flashes of skill but not nearly enough to make the starting 11. I can see him warming the bench for a few more games until he gets an opportunity. costa gaz

8:25am Mon 18 Feb 13

Clemster says...

Not sure whether I would call this a "massive" dilemma. Personally I would stick him on the bench. Though J-Rod has had his critics (I being one of them) I think he has been outstanding in recent weeks and has started to look the player we spent so much money on. Ramirez is clearly a gifted player but I have started to question just how committed he is and he seems to go off during games an awful lot.
Not sure whether I would call this a "massive" dilemma. Personally I would stick him on the bench. Though J-Rod has had his critics (I being one of them) I think he has been outstanding in recent weeks and has started to look the player we spent so much money on. Ramirez is clearly a gifted player but I have started to question just how committed he is and he seems to go off during games an awful lot. Clemster

8:30am Mon 18 Feb 13

Saintsteve7 says...

I think we'll see Gaston and Davis regularly changing places for the rest of the season. Gaston playing more home games and Davis more away.
The big dilemma for MP is the battle for the left hand side. J Rod has staked a pretty big claim and Adam has a serious fight on his hands to get that spot back.
Some serious competition for places now can only be a good thing for the remainder of the season. Coyr
I think we'll see Gaston and Davis regularly changing places for the rest of the season. Gaston playing more home games and Davis more away. The big dilemma for MP is the battle for the left hand side. J Rod has staked a pretty big claim and Adam has a serious fight on his hands to get that spot back. Some serious competition for places now can only be a good thing for the remainder of the season. Coyr Saintsteve7

8:31am Mon 18 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Forget Ramirez, Guly's back!
Forget Ramirez, Guly's back! Seedhouse the Unrepentant

8:33am Mon 18 Feb 13

gazw1976 says...

Punch , Lambert an Lallana as attacking front 3 , with Ramirez an Rodriguez to come on if needed as for Guly send him out on loan to Bournemouth to help their promotion push
Punch , Lambert an Lallana as attacking front 3 , with Ramirez an Rodriguez to come on if needed as for Guly send him out on loan to Bournemouth to help their promotion push gazw1976

8:38am Mon 18 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Same side as last time for me. Possibly Shaw for Fox if fit. After the ManC performance it would be hard on anybody to drop them. We now have some very good bench warmers to bring on if the game is not going to plan. Reminds me a bit of when we used to chant "and we've still got Beattie on the bench"
Same side as last time for me. Possibly Shaw for Fox if fit. After the ManC performance it would be hard on anybody to drop them. We now have some very good bench warmers to bring on if the game is not going to plan. Reminds me a bit of when we used to chant "and we've still got Beattie on the bench" Clever Dick

8:47am Mon 18 Feb 13

SaintMax says...

I'm confident that MP can integrate Gastons style into the team at the right time in a game.
Whether that's at the start or into the second half when we have run the opposition ragged.
This Newcastle game will be fascinating, have Fonte and Forren done enough in the last two weeks, will he stick with Davis and JRod, how much more of MPs new system has he managed to impose on our team?
I bet they've played a couple of full practice matches over the two weeks off looking at the permutations..
NA I will be forever grateful for what you did for us, but I did question a good few of your selections, whereas MP seems to be a far more shrewd tactician.
I'm confident that MP can integrate Gastons style into the team at the right time in a game. Whether that's at the start or into the second half when we have run the opposition ragged. This Newcastle game will be fascinating, have Fonte and Forren done enough in the last two weeks, will he stick with Davis and JRod, how much more of MPs new system has he managed to impose on our team? I bet they've played a couple of full practice matches over the two weeks off looking at the permutations.. NA I will be forever grateful for what you did for us, but I did question a good few of your selections, whereas MP seems to be a far more shrewd tactician. SaintMax

8:57am Mon 18 Feb 13

abbiscuits says...

i still think we should play: 4-2-3-1
boruc
clyne, yoshida, hooiveld, shaw
spider, cork,
puncheon, s.davis, j-rod
SRL
(with the subs being)
kelv, fox, forren, jwp, lallana, ramirez, mayuka
i still think we should play: 4-2-3-1 boruc clyne, yoshida, hooiveld, shaw spider, cork, puncheon, s.davis, j-rod SRL (with the subs being) kelv, fox, forren, jwp, lallana, ramirez, mayuka abbiscuits

8:58am Mon 18 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

I predict a riot
I predict a riot Alicesdad

9:26am Mon 18 Feb 13

tomw1234 says...

Things are starting to look good for us. A selection dilemma is brilliant. We have all of our attacking players back in contention along with Jose. I can't see MP changing the back line with Maya and Jos playing superbly against City. I would rather start with Lallana than Ramirez as you know what you're going to get with Adam. Ramirez needs to work on his fitness. I feel we will not see the best of him this year and may have to wait until next season to see him come good. I hope I'm wrong.
Things are starting to look good for us. A selection dilemma is brilliant. We have all of our attacking players back in contention along with Jose. I can't see MP changing the back line with Maya and Jos playing superbly against City. I would rather start with Lallana than Ramirez as you know what you're going to get with Adam. Ramirez needs to work on his fitness. I feel we will not see the best of him this year and may have to wait until next season to see him come good. I hope I'm wrong. tomw1234

9:27am Mon 18 Feb 13

saintmac says...

Competiton for places can only be good.
NA took the team a long way but MP
has that much more experience with regard to tactics etc. that I think it will
be the making of Gaston.He has taken
time to settle with his injuries and a personal problem but the best is yet to
come from him and MP is the person
to make this happen.
I hope I am proved right because we
have already seen some touches of
brilliance but, as yet ,not enough!
Competiton for places can only be good. NA took the team a long way but MP has that much more experience with regard to tactics etc. that I think it will be the making of Gaston.He has taken time to settle with his injuries and a personal problem but the best is yet to come from him and MP is the person to make this happen. I hope I am proved right because we have already seen some touches of brilliance but, as yet ,not enough! saintmac

9:29am Mon 18 Feb 13

hates the skates says...

i think MP has to stick with the same team that beat city. its a bit harsh on any body to get dropped from that side, any way i can see 7 points coming from the next 3 games, COYR
i think MP has to stick with the same team that beat city. its a bit harsh on any body to get dropped from that side, any way i can see 7 points coming from the next 3 games, COYR hates the skates

9:29am Mon 18 Feb 13

hates the skates says...

i think MP has to stick with the same team that beat city. its a bit harsh on any body to get dropped from that side, any way i can see 7 points coming from the next 3 games, COYR
i think MP has to stick with the same team that beat city. its a bit harsh on any body to get dropped from that side, any way i can see 7 points coming from the next 3 games, COYR hates the skates

9:31am Mon 18 Feb 13

Puddletown Saint says...

When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka Puddletown Saint

9:36am Mon 18 Feb 13

St Retford says...

I think we either play Jay-Rod or Gaston; there's no room for both in the same team.

Funny how Gaston seems a bit lightweight, though. South American football is the most physical in the world - he must be tough to have emerged through the ranks there.
I think we either play Jay-Rod or Gaston; there's no room for both in the same team. Funny how Gaston seems a bit lightweight, though. South American football is the most physical in the world - he must be tough to have emerged through the ranks there. St Retford

9:36am Mon 18 Feb 13

EricMartin'sHat says...

J-Rod and Punch on the wings, Rickie up front. Gotta squeeze Adam into midfield somehow - alongside Spiderman - but can't figure out who to drop! My head hurts - glad I'm not the manager :-).

Definitely leave Guly back at St Mary's though!
J-Rod and Punch on the wings, Rickie up front. Gotta squeeze Adam into midfield somehow - alongside Spiderman - but can't figure out who to drop! My head hurts - glad I'm not the manager :-). Definitely leave Guly back at St Mary's though! EricMartin'sHat

9:37am Mon 18 Feb 13

EricMartin'sHat says...

Oh - I forgot - Gaston on the bench
Oh - I forgot - Gaston on the bench EricMartin'sHat

9:39am Mon 18 Feb 13

St Retford says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield. St Retford

9:40am Mon 18 Feb 13

Dubai-saints89 says...

i say leave the front 3 how it is, (Jay rod, Lambert and punch)

Ramirez and Lallana can be our super subs. i can see them coming off the bench in the later stages and causing some real damage to some real tired defenders
i say leave the front 3 how it is, (Jay rod, Lambert and punch) Ramirez and Lallana can be our super subs. i can see them coming off the bench in the later stages and causing some real damage to some real tired defenders Dubai-saints89

9:49am Mon 18 Feb 13

bigfella777 says...

Why change what worked last time? Start the same squad and use them as subs, fight for places always brings the best out .
Why change what worked last time? Start the same squad and use them as subs, fight for places always brings the best out . bigfella777

9:53am Mon 18 Feb 13

Tirau Dan says...

Who knows? Best guess is unchanged team with him on the bench.. Guly may also get on the bench prob for JWP and Frazer R. Mr Ramirez has yet to settle and prove his worth.. hopefully he get on early and show what he can do...He is a space player but needs to make his own way by standing up in the first tackle and using his natural talent to make his name in the epl.
Good Luck All..
Who knows? Best guess is unchanged team with him on the bench.. Guly may also get on the bench prob for JWP and Frazer R. Mr Ramirez has yet to settle and prove his worth.. hopefully he get on early and show what he can do...He is a space player but needs to make his own way by standing up in the first tackle and using his natural talent to make his name in the epl. Good Luck All.. Tirau Dan

10:09am Mon 18 Feb 13

abbiscuits says...

so far, s.davis has been a bargain compared to gaston!
so far, s.davis has been a bargain compared to gaston! abbiscuits

10:17am Mon 18 Feb 13

City Saint says...

abbiscuits wrote:
so far, s.davis has been a bargain compared to gaston!
Agreed.
[quote][p][bold]abbiscuits[/bold] wrote: so far, s.davis has been a bargain compared to gaston![/p][/quote]Agreed. City Saint

10:18am Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

St Retford wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.
As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.[/p][/quote]As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through. El Santo

10:25am Mon 18 Feb 13

up saints says...

when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right
when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right up saints

10:32am Mon 18 Feb 13

Confucious says...

I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix.

If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic.

Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't.

"If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right."

I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely.

I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen.

One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.
I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix. If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic. Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't. "If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right." I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely. I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen. One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was. Confucious

10:35am Mon 18 Feb 13

St Retford says...

El Santo wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.
As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through.
We could, of course, always drop down to three at the back in order to give us more creative options up front.

Against Wigan Clyne came off because he was injured, but for all the work he was having to do he might as well have come off. The three essentially defensive midfielders give us so much cover that we don't always need a full back four, especially against lesser teams like Newcastle.
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.[/p][/quote]As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through.[/p][/quote]We could, of course, always drop down to three at the back in order to give us more creative options up front. Against Wigan Clyne came off because he was injured, but for all the work he was having to do he might as well have come off. The three essentially defensive midfielders give us so much cover that we don't always need a full back four, especially against lesser teams like Newcastle. St Retford

10:40am Mon 18 Feb 13

notaclue says...

Punch is playing well but sooner or later if he doesn't sign a new contact he will be dropped - at least to the bench.

This will be a real test for him, and it will be interesting to see how he reacts to that situation now that he has grown up a bit.
Punch is playing well but sooner or later if he doesn't sign a new contact he will be dropped - at least to the bench. This will be a real test for him, and it will be interesting to see how he reacts to that situation now that he has grown up a bit. notaclue

10:43am Mon 18 Feb 13

Mr. Miyagi says...

costa gaz wrote:
There is no doubting his (Ramirez) ability, but it is a question of if he can fit into this team.
He shows flashes of skill but not nearly enough to make the starting 11.
I can see him warming the bench for a few more games until he gets an opportunity.
To me, he would be a bit of a liability in the new system Poch is looking to play. With the pressing system, you can get exposed at the back, particularly if you lose the ball easily in midfield. Gaston loses the ball far too often for my liking. I'm sure he has the ability to adjust his game, but I would be wary of putting his into the system any time soon.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: There is no doubting his (Ramirez) ability, but it is a question of if he can fit into this team. He shows flashes of skill but not nearly enough to make the starting 11. I can see him warming the bench for a few more games until he gets an opportunity.[/p][/quote]To me, he would be a bit of a liability in the new system Poch is looking to play. With the pressing system, you can get exposed at the back, particularly if you lose the ball easily in midfield. Gaston loses the ball far too often for my liking. I'm sure he has the ability to adjust his game, but I would be wary of putting his into the system any time soon. Mr. Miyagi

10:46am Mon 18 Feb 13

jonny-shuttle says...

i think a bit of caution at 'castle wouldn't go a miss otherwise they'll just pick us off.

Gaston's on the bench for me.
i think a bit of caution at 'castle wouldn't go a miss otherwise they'll just pick us off. Gaston's on the bench for me. jonny-shuttle

10:47am Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

St Retford wrote:
El Santo wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.
As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through.
We could, of course, always drop down to three at the back in order to give us more creative options up front.

Against Wigan Clyne came off because he was injured, but for all the work he was having to do he might as well have come off. The three essentially defensive midfielders give us so much cover that we don't always need a full back four, especially against lesser teams like Newcastle.
I like your style! Truth is, that our defense has improved mainly on the midfield. If Lallana, for example, took more defensive duties, we could keep Clyne/Shaw on the bench and have more offensive options on the pitch, while still be defensive when needed. But...
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.[/p][/quote]As I commented a few days ago (=I told you so ;) ), there are only 2 spots for these guys. MP plays with a "trivote", three physically strong guys in the midfield. The 2 other spots are for Rod, Punch, Adam or Gaston. If any of the "trivote" are to be changed (in the starting 11), it would be by Guly or even Chaplow, working horses. Punch and Rod have advantage right now, and the other two have to break through.[/p][/quote]We could, of course, always drop down to three at the back in order to give us more creative options up front. Against Wigan Clyne came off because he was injured, but for all the work he was having to do he might as well have come off. The three essentially defensive midfielders give us so much cover that we don't always need a full back four, especially against lesser teams like Newcastle.[/p][/quote]I like your style! Truth is, that our defense has improved mainly on the midfield. If Lallana, for example, took more defensive duties, we could keep Clyne/Shaw on the bench and have more offensive options on the pitch, while still be defensive when needed. But... El Santo

10:54am Mon 18 Feb 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Dear me ....... according to the Echo last week we had a "defensive dilema" now we appear to have a "Ramirez dilema" ........... How many "dilems's" can one club possibly have.
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Perhaps the Echo has a "dilema" ..... Shall we print "positive" or "negative" stories ........ Now that i a "dilema" for the Echo
Dear me ....... according to the Echo last week we had a "defensive dilema" now we appear to have a "Ramirez dilema" ........... How many "dilems's" can one club possibly have. . Perhaps the Echo has a "dilema" ..... Shall we print "positive" or "negative" stories ........ Now that i a "dilema" for the Echo Lone Ranger.

10:56am Mon 18 Feb 13

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

gazw1976 wrote:
Punch , Lambert an Lallana as attacking front 3 , with Ramirez an Rodriguez to come on if needed as for Guly send him out on loan to Bournemouth to help their promotion push
Send him to Pompey to help there relegation push !
[quote][p][bold]gazw1976[/bold] wrote: Punch , Lambert an Lallana as attacking front 3 , with Ramirez an Rodriguez to come on if needed as for Guly send him out on loan to Bournemouth to help their promotion push[/p][/quote]Send him to Pompey to help there relegation push ! CHARLIE TAYLOR

11:08am Mon 18 Feb 13

h.smith7 says...

Feel gaston is a player who needs to be played when at home, in the whole between lambert and the cm's.. because we often have a lot more possession and could do with that bit of creativity.. away you need hard work and possibly that extra cm, which gaston cant be, so i would then bring in davis to be that extra man like at city! Home: boruc
clyne yosh jos shaw f Cork Spiderman
puncheon gaston lallana
Lambert

Away: boruc
clyne yosh jos shaw f Cork davis Spiderman
puncheon lallana
Lambert
Feel gaston is a player who needs to be played when at home, in the whole between lambert and the cm's.. because we often have a lot more possession and could do with that bit of creativity.. away you need hard work and possibly that extra cm, which gaston cant be, so i would then bring in davis to be that extra man like at city! Home: boruc clyne yosh jos shaw f Cork Spiderman puncheon gaston lallana Lambert Away: boruc clyne yosh jos shaw f Cork davis Spiderman puncheon lallana Lambert h.smith7

11:21am Mon 18 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

Confucious wrote:
I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix.

If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic.

Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't.

"If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right."

I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely.

I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen.

One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.
The good thing for Mauriccio is that he cannot be held accountable for the huge amount of money we paid for Ramirez or Rodriguez.
Those particular egg stains rest on someone elses chin. If indeed they are egg stains. That is not to say they are not potentially brilliant pieces of egg stain that will contribute to the overall recipe in a way that is reminisncent of a Roux Bros scrambled egg. Time will tell. And Im suyre that Mr Cortese would never allow the social faux pas of being seen in public with any form of egg on his chin, or elsewhere.

However I'm sure that Mauriccio will find his own perfect recipe and if that doesn't always include the aforementioned egg stains then that won't be his problem.

I wonder how Nigella would deal with such things ? I have never seen her with a stain out of place..
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix. If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic. Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't. "If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right." I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely. I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen. One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.[/p][/quote]The good thing for Mauriccio is that he cannot be held accountable for the huge amount of money we paid for Ramirez or Rodriguez. Those particular egg stains rest on someone elses chin. If indeed they are egg stains. That is not to say they are not potentially brilliant pieces of egg stain that will contribute to the overall recipe in a way that is reminisncent of a Roux Bros scrambled egg. Time will tell. And Im suyre that Mr Cortese would never allow the social faux pas of being seen in public with any form of egg on his chin, or elsewhere. However I'm sure that Mauriccio will find his own perfect recipe and if that doesn't always include the aforementioned egg stains then that won't be his problem. I wonder how Nigella would deal with such things ? I have never seen her with a stain out of place.. Alicesdad

11:30am Mon 18 Feb 13

MGRA says...

assuming he wants to stay at Saints, then we are in no hurry to get the "best out of him". He clearly does not find the pace and style of the Prem to his natural liking so I think if he beds in a bit more then next season he could be a fantastic asset....so although I still think £12M was stupid money for him, now he is here , I hope he stays and I am convinced next season's campaign will see him at his best....
assuming he wants to stay at Saints, then we are in no hurry to get the "best out of him". He clearly does not find the pace and style of the Prem to his natural liking so I think if he beds in a bit more then next season he could be a fantastic asset....so although I still think £12M was stupid money for him, now he is here , I hope he stays and I am convinced next season's campaign will see him at his best.... MGRA

11:45am Mon 18 Feb 13

saintshorse101 says...

i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender!
i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender! saintshorse101

11:45am Mon 18 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:51am Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

saintshorse101 wrote:
i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender!
If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.
[quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender![/p][/quote]If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either. El Santo

11:56am Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course. Strasbourg Saint

11:59am Mon 18 Feb 13

Beer Monster says...

Alicesdad wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix.

If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic.

Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't.

"If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right."

I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely.

I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen.

One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.
The good thing for Mauriccio is that he cannot be held accountable for the huge amount of money we paid for Ramirez or Rodriguez.
Those particular egg stains rest on someone elses chin. If indeed they are egg stains. That is not to say they are not potentially brilliant pieces of egg stain that will contribute to the overall recipe in a way that is reminisncent of a Roux Bros scrambled egg. Time will tell. And Im suyre that Mr Cortese would never allow the social faux pas of being seen in public with any form of egg on his chin, or elsewhere.

However I'm sure that Mauriccio will find his own perfect recipe and if that doesn't always include the aforementioned egg stains then that won't be his problem.

I wonder how Nigella would deal with such things ? I have never seen her with a stain out of place..
I'd certainly like to give her eggs a bashing :-)
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix. If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic. Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't. "If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right." I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely. I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen. One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.[/p][/quote]The good thing for Mauriccio is that he cannot be held accountable for the huge amount of money we paid for Ramirez or Rodriguez. Those particular egg stains rest on someone elses chin. If indeed they are egg stains. That is not to say they are not potentially brilliant pieces of egg stain that will contribute to the overall recipe in a way that is reminisncent of a Roux Bros scrambled egg. Time will tell. And Im suyre that Mr Cortese would never allow the social faux pas of being seen in public with any form of egg on his chin, or elsewhere. However I'm sure that Mauriccio will find his own perfect recipe and if that doesn't always include the aforementioned egg stains then that won't be his problem. I wonder how Nigella would deal with such things ? I have never seen her with a stain out of place..[/p][/quote]I'd certainly like to give her eggs a bashing :-) Beer Monster

12:05pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Tony in Liberia says...

I think Ramirez is a terrific player, and we will see the best of him next year, as usually happens with the cream of he foreign imports. His skill is obvious, but what impresses me is his tackling back, and winning the ball back. I think he will turn into a Matt Le Tiss who tackles, and then we'll think 12 million was a snip. BUt it will be next year - always assuming someone doesn't come in during the summer with a bid that he, and us, can't resist.
I think Ramirez is a terrific player, and we will see the best of him next year, as usually happens with the cream of he foreign imports. His skill is obvious, but what impresses me is his tackling back, and winning the ball back. I think he will turn into a Matt Le Tiss who tackles, and then we'll think 12 million was a snip. BUt it will be next year - always assuming someone doesn't come in during the summer with a bid that he, and us, can't resist. Tony in Liberia

12:07pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot. Bring back Branfoot

12:09pm Mon 18 Feb 13

St.Winch70 says...

Our new system is great. Relying on a full press to win the ball back is only part of it. keeping the ball and creating opportunity is another.

Line-up depends on the opposition and how they usually play.
For me, Lallana and Ramirez start as they tend to be more creative and will allow us to keep the ball for longer periods.

Loving these sorts of issues though!
Our new system is great. Relying on a full press to win the ball back is only part of it. keeping the ball and creating opportunity is another. Line-up depends on the opposition and how they usually play. For me, Lallana and Ramirez start as they tend to be more creative and will allow us to keep the ball for longer periods. Loving these sorts of issues though! St.Winch70

12:09pm Mon 18 Feb 13

St Retford says...

Anyhoo, what's happening with our friends down the road? Have they got another date for a court hearing that won't happen to try and set a date for a court hearing that won't happen?
Anyhoo, what's happening with our friends down the road? Have they got another date for a court hearing that won't happen to try and set a date for a court hearing that won't happen? St Retford

12:10pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Pooley says...

I do wish the Echo would stop using the word Dilemma. It is not a dilemma, if anything it is an embarassment of riches. Lala gets kn*ckered and we put Gaston in the hole. What is the problem? COYR!
I do wish the Echo would stop using the word Dilemma. It is not a dilemma, if anything it is an embarassment of riches. Lala gets kn*ckered and we put Gaston in the hole. What is the problem? COYR! Pooley

12:12pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

El Santo wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote:
i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender!
If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.
Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2.

The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up.

Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown.

Achtung baby!
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender![/p][/quote]If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.[/p][/quote]Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2. The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up. Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown. Achtung baby! Strasbourg Saint

12:16pm Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.[/p][/quote]You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team... El Santo

12:19pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Pooley says...

Confucious wrote:
I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix.

If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic.

Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't.

"If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right."

I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely.

I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen.

One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.
Weird....but anyway COYR!!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I have e mailed Mauricio so he's aware how important it is to select exactly the right mix. If you put perfect red chilli into an apple pie and custard; or a superb John Deere mower belt driving wheel into a Jaguar engine; or an exquisite Saxon arch into a Norman church spire - the result can be catastrophic. Having had my request for attending the training sessions turned down, however, I'm not entirely sure what the right mix here is, so I've advised Mauricio to go with his gut instinct in terms of what fits and what doesn't. "If Mauricio, after ten minutes of a training match," I wrote "Guly just seems like a f@rt in a Chanel No5 bottle or the Ramirez/Punch combination looks like a globule of snot on the moustache of a beauty queen then there's something not quite right." I have not yet received a reply and hope this is not a result of Mauricio wondering if Punch could be a f@rt associated component. It was always a risk when Nicola hired a manager who doesn't speak English, because pertinent input such as this can be misconstrued in foreign cultures where allegorical references are not familiar and certain words do not translate precisely. I would hate to see Punch put on the bench just because my clever perfume analogy was misunderstood or because a f@rt in Spanish means a ball point pen. One advantage we enjoyed when Nige was in charge was that he knew precisely what a f@rt was.[/p][/quote]Weird....but anyway COYR!! Pooley

12:29pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...
Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor.

But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything.

I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.[/p][/quote]You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...[/p][/quote]Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor. But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything. I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot. Bring back Branfoot

12:32pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Mush On The Beach says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Dear me ....... according to the Echo last week we had a "defensive dilema" now we appear to have a "Ramirez dilema" ........... How many "dilems's" can one club possibly have.
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Perhaps the Echo has a "dilema" ..... Shall we print "positive" or "negative" stories ........ Now that i a "dilema" for the Echo
I think Pardew has the biggest dilemma this week. What team selection does he make away to Metalist Kharkiv in Ukraine on Thursday?
If they are serious in progressing to the last 16 in the Europa then we could gain an advantage from some weary players on Sunday.
I can’t see any changes from us after the Citeh game, perhaps apart from Shaw for Fox.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: Dear me ....... according to the Echo last week we had a "defensive dilema" now we appear to have a "Ramirez dilema" ........... How many "dilems's" can one club possibly have. . Perhaps the Echo has a "dilema" ..... Shall we print "positive" or "negative" stories ........ Now that i a "dilema" for the Echo[/p][/quote]I think Pardew has the biggest dilemma this week. What team selection does he make away to Metalist Kharkiv in Ukraine on Thursday? If they are serious in progressing to the last 16 in the Europa then we could gain an advantage from some weary players on Sunday. I can’t see any changes from us after the Citeh game, perhaps apart from Shaw for Fox. Mush On The Beach

12:43pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it. Bring back Branfoot

12:46pm Mon 18 Feb 13

St.Yorkie says...

I think Ramirez has shown what he is capable of doing at SMS. But the pace is something he needs to adapt to as he only seems to last for 65-70-mins. I think his fitness levels need looking at - could be diet related?
We look far more threatening when he is on the ball, when he is interested. I must admit I get the impression he is still very much settling in!
Don't see Ramirez as an impact substitute, not in the same way Lallana or Guly makes an impression.
Great situation for a Manager - a selection headache? I think Mr Pochettino already knows hs best starting eleven, and what tactics he needs to adopt. The high line pressing game suits our young team - and they seem to enjoy it too!
So a win at Newcastle on Sunday - and QPR the following Saturday is the minimum we should expect!
I think Ramirez has shown what he is capable of doing at SMS. But the pace is something he needs to adapt to as he only seems to last for 65-70-mins. I think his fitness levels need looking at - could be diet related? We look far more threatening when he is on the ball, when he is interested. I must admit I get the impression he is still very much settling in! Don't see Ramirez as an impact substitute, not in the same way Lallana or Guly makes an impression. Great situation for a Manager - a selection headache? I think Mr Pochettino already knows hs best starting eleven, and what tactics he needs to adopt. The high line pressing game suits our young team - and they seem to enjoy it too! So a win at Newcastle on Sunday - and QPR the following Saturday is the minimum we should expect! St.Yorkie

1:12pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night? Rising_Son

1:15pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

up saints wrote:
when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right
Not quite sure I understand the logic. Are you saying that, if were more than 4 points of the bottom, we wouldn't "need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles?"
[quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right[/p][/quote]Not quite sure I understand the logic. Are you saying that, if were more than 4 points of the bottom, we wouldn't "need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles?" Rising_Son

1:16pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Rising_Son wrote:
up saints wrote:
when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right
Not quite sure I understand the logic. Are you saying that, if were more than 4 points of the bottom, we wouldn't "need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles?"
of -> off
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]up saints[/bold] wrote: when your only 4 points from the drop zone.sorry to say but ramirez is a luxury you can't afford. you need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles.but mp will get it right[/p][/quote]Not quite sure I understand the logic. Are you saying that, if were more than 4 points of the bottom, we wouldn't "need to hold the midfield and win the 50/50 tackles?"[/p][/quote]of -> off Rising_Son

1:17pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Dickosfc says...

Yeah cracking situation to be in. Great to think that we have such an abundance of attacking threat!!
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I think Gaston has a lot to offer us. Don’t forget he’s still a young lad, living in the UK is completely different to Uruguay or Italy. It’s bound to take time to settle. I’m sure everyone remembers when they first left home, doesn’t matter how much money he earns, can still be daunting. He’s also been on Soccer AM’s “Show boat” loads of times. Great skill or should I say - Tekkers!!
Yeah cracking situation to be in. Great to think that we have such an abundance of attacking threat!! . I think Gaston has a lot to offer us. Don’t forget he’s still a young lad, living in the UK is completely different to Uruguay or Italy. It’s bound to take time to settle. I’m sure everyone remembers when they first left home, doesn’t matter how much money he earns, can still be daunting. He’s also been on Soccer AM’s “Show boat” loads of times. Great skill or should I say - Tekkers!! Dickosfc

1:33pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok. warrens 76

1:35pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there. Rising_Son

1:50pm Mon 18 Feb 13

saintkenny says...

notaclue wrote:
Punch is playing well but sooner or later if he doesn't sign a new contact he will be dropped - at least to the bench.

This will be a real test for him, and it will be interesting to see how he reacts to that situation now that he has grown up a bit.
no cortesse is waiting for relegation to be sorted .punch wants to sign .but cortesse will offer bigger contract.but if fails will be lower .just making sure he does not over push the budget .the difference between and championship.wst ham is doing this with big sam
[quote][p][bold]notaclue[/bold] wrote: Punch is playing well but sooner or later if he doesn't sign a new contact he will be dropped - at least to the bench. This will be a real test for him, and it will be interesting to see how he reacts to that situation now that he has grown up a bit.[/p][/quote]no cortesse is waiting for relegation to be sorted .punch wants to sign .but cortesse will offer bigger contract.but if fails will be lower .just making sure he does not over push the budget .the difference between and championship.wst ham is doing this with big sam saintkenny

1:52pm Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...
Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor.

But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything.

I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.
Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off).
But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.[/p][/quote]You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...[/p][/quote]Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor. But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything. I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.[/p][/quote]Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off). But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion? El Santo

2:03pm Mon 18 Feb 13

jezza says...

Given the most prevalent football chant of the moment, I think it is vital we play all of our players who have 5 syllable names so that we can outsing any other team!

Oh Gaston Ramirez/Adam Lllallana/Guly do Prado. .. . . . . .?

Actually, we are quite under-represented. It's a dilemma. Get that cheque book out.
Given the most prevalent football chant of the moment, I think it is vital we play all of our players who have 5 syllable names so that we can outsing any other team! Oh Gaston Ramirez/Adam Lllallana/Guly do Prado. .. . . . . .? Actually, we are quite under-represented. It's a dilemma. Get that cheque book out. jezza

2:04pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo.

I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance.

We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there.[/p][/quote]Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo. I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance. We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot. Strasbourg Saint

2:10pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Costa Baz says...

The new attacking format is tailor made to suit Gaston.
His ability to hold the ball, when surrounded by opposition players, is second to none.
The increased and improved movement off the ball, by his team mates, will only help him to become more influential, with his flicks and vision.
I think some are under estimating his work ethic and his strength.
In MP's first game, Gaston was THE key man for 45 minutes, against Everton, always demanding the ball. The only reason we didn't control the second half, as well, was owing to Fellaini dropping back into Everton's midfield, totally disrupting ours.

Also, Gaston shields the ball as well as anyone in our team, and it seems the only way he can be knocked off the ball is to give him a dead leg!!
The new attacking format is tailor made to suit Gaston. His ability to hold the ball, when surrounded by opposition players, is second to none. The increased and improved movement off the ball, by his team mates, will only help him to become more influential, with his flicks and vision. I think some are under estimating his work ethic and his strength. In MP's first game, Gaston was THE key man for 45 minutes, against Everton, always demanding the ball. The only reason we didn't control the second half, as well, was owing to Fellaini dropping back into Everton's midfield, totally disrupting ours. Also, Gaston shields the ball as well as anyone in our team, and it seems the only way he can be knocked off the ball is to give him a dead leg!! Costa Baz

2:13pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...
Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor.

But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything.

I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.
Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off).
But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion?
I agree that we are strong in the attacking midfield department but by all accounts we weren't just making subtle overtures to Philippe Coutinho. He scored on his debut for Liverpool and had a decent strike record in Spain. The only conclusion I can draw from this is Poch wants an attacking midfielder with a very good shot. Punch has weighed in with some goals but it's been Rickie up front for the most part.

If we do get a quality ball winner in the summer, who would you pick in midfield, presuming we play a 4-5-1 of sorts? It's a difficult one!
[quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.[/p][/quote]You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...[/p][/quote]Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor. But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything. I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.[/p][/quote]Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off). But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion?[/p][/quote]I agree that we are strong in the attacking midfield department but by all accounts we weren't just making subtle overtures to Philippe Coutinho. He scored on his debut for Liverpool and had a decent strike record in Spain. The only conclusion I can draw from this is Poch wants an attacking midfielder with a very good shot. Punch has weighed in with some goals but it's been Rickie up front for the most part. If we do get a quality ball winner in the summer, who would you pick in midfield, presuming we play a 4-5-1 of sorts? It's a difficult one! Bring back Branfoot

2:33pm Mon 18 Feb 13

batesieboy says...

I don't care what the dictionary says, I am spelling it "dilemna" and that's that.
I don't care what the dictionary says, I am spelling it "dilemna" and that's that. batesieboy

2:50pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Confucious says...

I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here. Confucious

2:55pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

batesieboy wrote:
I don't care what the dictionary says, I am spelling it "dilemna" and that's that.
You tell 'em, Batsieboy. In amy case, the M & N look quite sinilar amd are very close om the keyboard.

Just be careful the mext tine you go to the bakers amd ask for a bun.
[quote][p][bold]batesieboy[/bold] wrote: I don't care what the dictionary says, I am spelling it "dilemna" and that's that.[/p][/quote]You tell 'em, Batsieboy. In amy case, the M & N look quite sinilar amd are very close om the keyboard. Just be careful the mext tine you go to the bakers amd ask for a bun. Strasbourg Saint

2:59pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo.

I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance.

We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.
Top ho.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there.[/p][/quote]Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo. I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance. We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.[/p][/quote]Top ho. warrens 76

3:01pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Costa Baz wrote:
The new attacking format is tailor made to suit Gaston.
His ability to hold the ball, when surrounded by opposition players, is second to none.
The increased and improved movement off the ball, by his team mates, will only help him to become more influential, with his flicks and vision.
I think some are under estimating his work ethic and his strength.
In MP's first game, Gaston was THE key man for 45 minutes, against Everton, always demanding the ball. The only reason we didn't control the second half, as well, was owing to Fellaini dropping back into Everton's midfield, totally disrupting ours.

Also, Gaston shields the ball as well as anyone in our team, and it seems the only way he can be knocked off the ball is to give him a dead leg!!
Or two too.
[quote][p][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote: The new attacking format is tailor made to suit Gaston. His ability to hold the ball, when surrounded by opposition players, is second to none. The increased and improved movement off the ball, by his team mates, will only help him to become more influential, with his flicks and vision. I think some are under estimating his work ethic and his strength. In MP's first game, Gaston was THE key man for 45 minutes, against Everton, always demanding the ball. The only reason we didn't control the second half, as well, was owing to Fellaini dropping back into Everton's midfield, totally disrupting ours. Also, Gaston shields the ball as well as anyone in our team, and it seems the only way he can be knocked off the ball is to give him a dead leg!![/p][/quote]Or two too. warrens 76

3:02pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo.

I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance.

We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.
I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there.[/p][/quote]Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo. I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance. We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.[/p][/quote]I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it? Rising_Son

3:02pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
I feel like digging one...actually your usual top quality..
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]I feel like digging one...actually your usual top quality.. warrens 76

3:04pm Mon 18 Feb 13

SO50 Saint says...

Enjoy the 23+ flights of stairs to get to the top of the stand at SJP all who are going
Enjoy the 23+ flights of stairs to get to the top of the stand at SJP all who are going SO50 Saint

3:19pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
I feel like digging one...actually your usual top quality..
I agree - a quality post that highlights and pokes great fun of the way some people use popular phrases in or out of context without really having a clue what they are talking about.

Confucious, I don't know what you put in your tea to stimulate your brain but whatever it is can you send me some please.... or send a lot I wont mind.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]I feel like digging one...actually your usual top quality..[/p][/quote]I agree - a quality post that highlights and pokes great fun of the way some people use popular phrases in or out of context without really having a clue what they are talking about. Confucious, I don't know what you put in your tea to stimulate your brain but whatever it is can you send me some please.... or send a lot I wont mind. Alicesdad

3:24pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo.

I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance.

We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.
I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it?
:) Too right. Although, having started off being dead against all that 'follow the tribe' stuff, as a leaving present from a former job in 2005, I was given the Friends Prov. shirt (my first since the '76 Admiral yellow Cup Final shirt).

Then I got last season's R&W stripes as a birthday present.

The little Strassies don't have a proper striped shirt between them but will, no doubt have some combination of this year's white away shirt, the sash and/or the old away grey. Although one or other could borrow my old R&W of course.

SO50, thanks for the multiple-step warning. If I understand the layout correctly, our seats will be in front of the Red & White Army. So, our climb will be a little shorter - good news for an aging f4rt like me.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there.[/p][/quote]Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo. I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance. We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.[/p][/quote]I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it?[/p][/quote]:) Too right. Although, having started off being dead against all that 'follow the tribe' stuff, as a leaving present from a former job in 2005, I was given the Friends Prov. shirt (my first since the '76 Admiral yellow Cup Final shirt). Then I got last season's R&W stripes as a birthday present. The little Strassies don't have a proper striped shirt between them but will, no doubt have some combination of this year's white away shirt, the sash and/or the old away grey. Although one or other could borrow my old R&W of course. SO50, thanks for the multiple-step warning. If I understand the layout correctly, our seats will be in front of the Red & White Army. So, our climb will be a little shorter - good news for an aging f4rt like me. Strasbourg Saint

3:26pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ......

Should I start a sentence with 'and'? ....
Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over?
Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints?

On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too.

Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub.

This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.
Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence.

Let me know your plans for Saturday night?
Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving..

I almost had to get home tickets as well...

Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder.

In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have..

Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.
Thanks. I'll be there.
Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo.

I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance.

We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.
I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it?
:) Too right. Although, having started off being dead against all that 'follow the tribe' stuff, as a leaving present from a former job in 2005, I was given the Friends Prov. shirt (my first since the '76 Admiral yellow Cup Final shirt).

Then I got last season's R&W stripes as a birthday present.

The little Strassies don't have a proper striped shirt between them but will, no doubt have some combination of this year's white away shirt, the sash and/or the old away grey. Although one or other could borrow my old R&W of course.

SO50, thanks for the multiple-step warning. If I understand the layout correctly, our seats will be in front of the Red & White Army. So, our climb will be a little shorter - good news for an aging f4rt like me.
Cardiologist later..can't wait to tell him how many blöödy stairs there are!
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: Poor Poch, what a dilemma! And there was I thinking that my life choices were difficult ...... Should I start a sentence with 'and'? .... Should I avoid beef until the horse meat scandal is over? Should I be Pompey, should I be Saints? On the whole, I think I've got most decisions right and I'm sure Poch will, too. Meanwhile, as this is about next w/e, a quick personal progress report. Last Friday, SMS sold out of our allocation of tickets for the match. Can you believe it? 52-friggin-thousand seats and Saints clearly purchased too few of those available to them. Finally today, I've made 'other arrangements' and I do have 3 tickets. However, reminded that this is a public site, I'm not saying too much. Let me just say that the little Strassies and I will restrict our singing to the pre-match pub. This Premiership lark is a mixed blessing. It would be cheaper and easier to drive down the M27 for a match ...... as long as I didn't want to take a coach, of course.[/p][/quote]Pity you'll have to enjoy another good win in nervous silence. Let me know your plans for Saturday night?[/p][/quote]Strassie, I was all singing and dancing with the home fans at WBA and Arsenal..however Geordies are not so forgiving.. I almost had to get home tickets as well... Just as well NC knows his business cos an awful lot of people at SFc do not know the first thing about looking after the fans, however this is not new..club has always had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans since way back yonder. In fairness even poopey staff have alot more respect for their fans than our lot ever have.. Indigo Hotel 5 ish+...ok.[/p][/quote]Thanks. I'll be there.[/p][/quote]Great, let's all meet at 5ish at the Indigo. I've found it on Google Earth; good choice, not far from the ground or the train station and a BurgerKing and BetFreds in spitting distance. We'll don our shirts so as to be easy to spot.[/p][/quote]I'll need to borrow one, but I reckon I can do that. Ultimately, it's what we have children for, isn't it?[/p][/quote]:) Too right. Although, having started off being dead against all that 'follow the tribe' stuff, as a leaving present from a former job in 2005, I was given the Friends Prov. shirt (my first since the '76 Admiral yellow Cup Final shirt). Then I got last season's R&W stripes as a birthday present. The little Strassies don't have a proper striped shirt between them but will, no doubt have some combination of this year's white away shirt, the sash and/or the old away grey. Although one or other could borrow my old R&W of course. SO50, thanks for the multiple-step warning. If I understand the layout correctly, our seats will be in front of the Red & White Army. So, our climb will be a little shorter - good news for an aging f4rt like me.[/p][/quote]Cardiologist later..can't wait to tell him how many blöödy stairs there are! warrens 76

3:37pm Mon 18 Feb 13

right back in the bar says...

same team as last time except Fonte back in for Hooiveld who for me is the only weakness in the team

Boruc,Clyne,Shaw, Fonte,Maya
Cork, Spiderman
Puncheon, Davis, JRod
Lambert

AL on for Davis and JRod playing alongside RL in a 4-4-2 if we end up chasing the game. And Gaston on for Cork and linking with Lambert and JRod in a 4-3-3 if we still end up chasing the game. Good enough for me and then back home to bury the fraudster Redknapp (we all know what a rubbish manager he is perhaps when he oversees a second relegation people outside Southampton will start to realise that too).
same team as last time except Fonte back in for Hooiveld who for me is the only weakness in the team Boruc,Clyne,Shaw, Fonte,Maya Cork, Spiderman Puncheon, Davis, JRod Lambert AL on for Davis and JRod playing alongside RL in a 4-4-2 if we end up chasing the game. And Gaston on for Cork and linking with Lambert and JRod in a 4-3-3 if we still end up chasing the game. Good enough for me and then back home to bury the fraudster Redknapp (we all know what a rubbish manager he is perhaps when he oversees a second relegation people outside Southampton will start to realise that too). right back in the bar

3:41pm Mon 18 Feb 13

spyware says...

MGRA wrote:
assuming he wants to stay at Saints, then we are in no hurry to get the "best out of him". He clearly does not find the pace and style of the Prem to his natural liking so I think if he beds in a bit more then next season he could be a fantastic asset....so although I still think £12M was stupid money for him, now he is here , I hope he stays and I am convinced next season's campaign will see him at his best....
This DE story just adds fuel to the fire that Gaston Rimirez is reported to be still suffering from being 'home sick'.

Personally I hope he stays for the rest of the season at least, but I suppose we will have to wait to see if he is selected for the remaining games and how well he plays.
[quote][p][bold]MGRA[/bold] wrote: assuming he wants to stay at Saints, then we are in no hurry to get the "best out of him". He clearly does not find the pace and style of the Prem to his natural liking so I think if he beds in a bit more then next season he could be a fantastic asset....so although I still think £12M was stupid money for him, now he is here , I hope he stays and I am convinced next season's campaign will see him at his best....[/p][/quote]This DE story just adds fuel to the fire that Gaston Rimirez is reported to be still suffering from being 'home sick'. Personally I hope he stays for the rest of the season at least, but I suppose we will have to wait to see if he is selected for the remaining games and how well he plays. spyware

4:13pm Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
El Santo wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free.

He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists.

We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.
You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...
Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor.

But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything.

I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.
Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off).
But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion?
I agree that we are strong in the attacking midfield department but by all accounts we weren't just making subtle overtures to Philippe Coutinho. He scored on his debut for Liverpool and had a decent strike record in Spain. The only conclusion I can draw from this is Poch wants an attacking midfielder with a very good shot. Punch has weighed in with some goals but it's been Rickie up front for the most part.

If we do get a quality ball winner in the summer, who would you pick in midfield, presuming we play a 4-5-1 of sorts? It's a difficult one!
Spider and Cork, answering your question. And the 2 of the other 4. But... who knows! This position depends even more on physical form and players go up and down during the season/
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Gaston will figure significantly in Poch's plans and he will make a much bigger impact over the next three months, if he stays injury free. He's the most creative player we have and his ball distribution is strong, which makes him ideal for Poch's system. Also expect him to get on the score sheet more frequently and weigh in with more assists. We have a strong midfield unit, but as I've said before Poch will definitely bring in another creative attacking midfielder with a good shot.[/p][/quote]You think so? I think he might actually bring another defensive midfield player, even stronger than the ones we have, sort of a Vieira, Makelele... I really wonder where Moutinho would play in this team...[/p][/quote]Good shout! I also would like to see an out and out ball winner brought in. If he wants a a midfield where he has a couple of attacking midfielders supporting Rickie he's going to need a proven ball winner to act as an anchor. But some fans would argue that Morgan could fill that role with Adam and Cork being able to help out as they can do a bit of everything. I still think he's after an attacking midfielder. He seemed to be on the look out for one in the transfer window and I would think he wants one with a good long range shot.[/p][/quote]Interesting... I always thought that Beñat Etxebarria (Betis) would be an immense buy for us. He'll be a free agent in the summer and plays for the Spanish team. Good long range shot, creative but can also play defensive midfielder (that's how he started off). But I doubt we need another attacking midfielder... how do you come to this conclusion?[/p][/quote]I agree that we are strong in the attacking midfield department but by all accounts we weren't just making subtle overtures to Philippe Coutinho. He scored on his debut for Liverpool and had a decent strike record in Spain. The only conclusion I can draw from this is Poch wants an attacking midfielder with a very good shot. Punch has weighed in with some goals but it's been Rickie up front for the most part. If we do get a quality ball winner in the summer, who would you pick in midfield, presuming we play a 4-5-1 of sorts? It's a difficult one![/p][/quote]Spider and Cork, answering your question. And the 2 of the other 4. But... who knows! This position depends even more on physical form and players go up and down during the season/ El Santo

4:51pm Mon 18 Feb 13

st1halo says...

Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Ok MoPo is looking into it!

STID
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Ok MoPo is looking into it! STID st1halo

4:53pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Sainty saint saint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me. Sainty saint saint

5:24pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Salar says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
El Santo wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender!
If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.
Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2. The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up. Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown. Achtung baby!
Alsace/Lorraine changed countries a few times, especially after the Franco Prussian war of the 1870's and again after WW1. White Cross of Lorraine painted on a few Allied WW2 aircraft, especially a few pilots of the FF air force.
PC's Tempest comes to mind......
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender![/p][/quote]If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.[/p][/quote]Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2. The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up. Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown. Achtung baby![/p][/quote]Alsace/Lorraine changed countries a few times, especially after the Franco Prussian war of the 1870's and again after WW1. White Cross of Lorraine painted on a few Allied WW2 aircraft, especially a few pilots of the FF air force. PC's Tempest comes to mind...... Salar

5:38pm Mon 18 Feb 13

tomw1234 says...

Boruc
Clyne Yos Jos Shaw
Morgan Cork S.Davis
Puncheon Lambert J-Rod
Boruc Clyne Yos Jos Shaw Morgan Cork S.Davis Puncheon Lambert J-Rod tomw1234

5:43pm Mon 18 Feb 13

El Santo says...

Salar wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
El Santo wrote:
saintshorse101 wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender!
If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.
Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2. The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up. Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown. Achtung baby!
Alsace/Lorraine changed countries a few times, especially after the Franco Prussian war of the 1870's and again after WW1. White Cross of Lorraine painted on a few Allied WW2 aircraft, especially a few pilots of the FF air force.
PC's Tempest comes to mind......
Yes, and around 130.000 Alsatians fought in the Wehrmacht or Waffen SS. Hardly forgotten in the rest of the country, where, for decades, parking you Alsatian car anywhere but in Alsace was considered a provocation.
But then, it was Napoleon who stole them (Alsace/Lorraine) first...
[quote][p][bold]Salar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintshorse101[/bold] wrote: i think that spider should be the first name on the team sheet for the game against nouvelle château, at least we will have a player on the pitch who understands what they are saying. the one thing we do know is that with the amount of French players in their team, if we continue to play the high pressure attacking game, it wont take long for them to surrender![/p][/quote]If they lose, they can always claim that they had a secrete/invisible "Resistance" that did the dirty work... Luckily, we have no German players to draw more parallelisms, although having an Alsacian is almost worse... and the fact that he plays like a panzer, crushing the adversaries midfield does not help either.[/p][/quote]Ha! Alsace is covered in historic reminders of bygone days from those when knights were bold right up to the heroic (and not so heroic) actions of WW2. The locals have been rather caught in the middle on the whole, which I'm sure has helped toughen them up. Spiderman's combative nature probably owes more to local history than to the beautiful rolling hills on which the finest sweet white wines on earth (according to the locals) and the hops mentioned by Eric Cantona in the Kronenbourg advert are grown. Achtung baby![/p][/quote]Alsace/Lorraine changed countries a few times, especially after the Franco Prussian war of the 1870's and again after WW1. White Cross of Lorraine painted on a few Allied WW2 aircraft, especially a few pilots of the FF air force. PC's Tempest comes to mind......[/p][/quote]Yes, and around 130.000 Alsatians fought in the Wehrmacht or Waffen SS. Hardly forgotten in the rest of the country, where, for decades, parking you Alsatian car anywhere but in Alsace was considered a provocation. But then, it was Napoleon who stole them (Alsace/Lorraine) first... El Santo

6:00pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Velleity says...

Alternative headline: "Pochettino spoilt for choice on Sunday"
Alternative headline: "Pochettino spoilt for choice on Sunday" Velleity

6:04pm Mon 18 Feb 13

allsaintsnocurves says...

St Retford wrote:
Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.
I agree...this is certainly the team we should be playing at home. Davis gives us a more solid look away from home. Gaston is great for breaking with the ball at feet so it depends on whether we will be playing a more counter attacking side.

If Lallana is fit though he plays simple as that...he is our best attacking player with Ricky and can hold the ball up better than any.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]I think Stevie Davis has earned a starting spot. Together with Spider and Cork nothing will come through our midfield.[/p][/quote]I agree...this is certainly the team we should be playing at home. Davis gives us a more solid look away from home. Gaston is great for breaking with the ball at feet so it depends on whether we will be playing a more counter attacking side. If Lallana is fit though he plays simple as that...he is our best attacking player with Ricky and can hold the ball up better than any. allsaintsnocurves

6:28pm Mon 18 Feb 13

100%Saint says...

Starting XI:
Boruc
Clyne Maya Fonte Shaw
Spider Cork
Lallana
Punch Lambert J-rod

Lallana playing as a floating attacking midfielder and Ramirez to come for J-Rod so Ramirez swaps with Lallana. Still needs working on anyone else's view on this team?
COYR!!!
Starting XI: Boruc Clyne Maya Fonte Shaw Spider Cork Lallana Punch Lambert J-rod Lallana playing as a floating attacking midfielder and Ramirez to come for J-Rod so Ramirez swaps with Lallana. Still needs working on anyone else's view on this team? COYR!!! 100%Saint

6:35pm Mon 18 Feb 13

milton road says...

I would not change the starting line up for man city other than Shaw. I think J Rod personally has started to improve and has put a lot more work in under MP. His pace is beginning to cause teams problems.
Unfortunately or fortunately we looked far better against Utd and Wigan when Davies came on and Gaston went off.
It is difficult to drop anyone after the first half against city.
The thing is MP's style is not holding the ball up, its push, thrust, strike.
I would not change the starting line up for man city other than Shaw. I think J Rod personally has started to improve and has put a lot more work in under MP. His pace is beginning to cause teams problems. Unfortunately or fortunately we looked far better against Utd and Wigan when Davies came on and Gaston went off. It is difficult to drop anyone after the first half against city. The thing is MP's style is not holding the ball up, its push, thrust, strike. milton road

7:09pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

milton road wrote:
I would not change the starting line up for man city other than Shaw. I think J Rod personally has started to improve and has put a lot more work in under MP. His pace is beginning to cause teams problems.
Unfortunately or fortunately we looked far better against Utd and Wigan when Davies came on and Gaston went off.
It is difficult to drop anyone after the first half against city.
The thing is MP's style is not holding the ball up, its push, thrust, strike.
Last three words sound like a skate husband..
[quote][p][bold]milton road[/bold] wrote: I would not change the starting line up for man city other than Shaw. I think J Rod personally has started to improve and has put a lot more work in under MP. His pace is beginning to cause teams problems. Unfortunately or fortunately we looked far better against Utd and Wigan when Davies came on and Gaston went off. It is difficult to drop anyone after the first half against city. The thing is MP's style is not holding the ball up, its push, thrust, strike.[/p][/quote]Last three words sound like a skate husband.. warrens 76

7:21pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC. warrens 76

7:24pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
I think Jay is a threat with his pace, but his finishing has been a let down this season. Will Poch facy him?
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]I think Jay is a threat with his pace, but his finishing has been a let down this season. Will Poch facy him? Bring back Branfoot

7:25pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change Clever Dick

7:29pm Mon 18 Feb 13

SaintMax says...

Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
[quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there.... SaintMax

7:31pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult! Bring back Branfoot

7:38pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam..

However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult![/p][/quote]Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam.. However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down... warrens 76

7:42pm Mon 18 Feb 13

StevieSteve says...

I'd keep the 11 that started against City, apart from swapping Shaw for Fox!

That means our bench will look something like this... Davis, Fox, Fonte, Lallana, Guly, Ramirez and Mayuka... Not bad at all!!
I'd keep the 11 that started against City, apart from swapping Shaw for Fox! That means our bench will look something like this... Davis, Fox, Fonte, Lallana, Guly, Ramirez and Mayuka... Not bad at all!! StevieSteve

7:46pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent. Bring back Branfoot

7:48pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam..

However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...
Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday!
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult![/p][/quote]Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam.. However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...[/p][/quote]Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday! Bring back Branfoot

8:03pm Mon 18 Feb 13

SaintMax says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!'
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.[/p][/quote]Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!' SaintMax

8:14pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam..

However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...
Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday!
Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it.

It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers!
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult![/p][/quote]Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam.. However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...[/p][/quote]Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday![/p][/quote]Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it. It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers! Strasbourg Saint

8:15pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Confucious says...

Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change
Mauricio is very welcome to steal my ideas. In fact his main idea came from me.

After Nigel was sacked I went away for three days at a quiet hotel to have a deep think about our team's issues. During the first two days I ploughed through all the obvious stuff - formations, selections etc etc. But then I decided I needed to get to the real core of the matter.

It suddenly occurred to me that if we have the ball, not only is the other team unable to score, but we have the absolute essential pre-requisite for scoring ourselves ie the ball.

Anyway I wrote to Mauricio and explained that our weakness, clearly visible in the match stats under Nigel, was down to the fact that the other teams had been getting the ball a lot and scoring with it and we hadn't.

He didn't reply, but no worries about that. The new "pressing all the time to get the ball a lot" strategy has obviously been adopted.

I fell out with Nicola at a corporate event when I asked him a) why Italian women seem to go from looking 19 years old to looking 64 years old during a rapid one month transition which takes place when they are in their mid-thirties and b) does his mum have a moustache?

He's an odd one that Nicola you know.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change[/p][/quote]Mauricio is very welcome to steal my ideas. In fact his main idea came from me. After Nigel was sacked I went away for three days at a quiet hotel to have a deep think about our team's issues. During the first two days I ploughed through all the obvious stuff - formations, selections etc etc. But then I decided I needed to get to the real core of the matter. It suddenly occurred to me that if we have the ball, not only is the other team unable to score, but we have the absolute essential pre-requisite for scoring ourselves ie the ball. Anyway I wrote to Mauricio and explained that our weakness, clearly visible in the match stats under Nigel, was down to the fact that the other teams had been getting the ball a lot and scoring with it and we hadn't. He didn't reply, but no worries about that. The new "pressing all the time to get the ball a lot" strategy has obviously been adopted. I fell out with Nicola at a corporate event when I asked him a) why Italian women seem to go from looking 19 years old to looking 64 years old during a rapid one month transition which takes place when they are in their mid-thirties and b) does his mum have a moustache? He's an odd one that Nicola you know. Confucious

8:16pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Bring back Branfoot says...

SaintMax wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!'
Probably was. Can you imagine the cameras panning around the stadium and our lot waving the hankies as if to say bring us our Nigel back. McMillan had to be out for a laugh with that little number. Turning the club into some ridiculas soap opera. And the press who needed a story made Nicola out to be some Nero charchter, giving a thumb down with his slight manicured hand! Where in reality his decisions in general have proved to be first rate!

Things are looking so good!
[quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.[/p][/quote]Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!'[/p][/quote]Probably was. Can you imagine the cameras panning around the stadium and our lot waving the hankies as if to say bring us our Nigel back. McMillan had to be out for a laugh with that little number. Turning the club into some ridiculas soap opera. And the press who needed a story made Nicola out to be some Nero charchter, giving a thumb down with his slight manicured hand! Where in reality his decisions in general have proved to be first rate! Things are looking so good! Bring back Branfoot

8:19pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet. Strasbourg Saint

8:20pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
Lurk...are you a lurker sir...remember Lurkio the irrepressible Frankie Howard

...Very funny BbB..
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.[/p][/quote]Lurk...are you a lurker sir...remember Lurkio the irrepressible Frankie Howard ...Very funny BbB.. warrens 76

8:26pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..!

I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense...

I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game..

bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing.

When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.[/p][/quote]Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..! I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense... I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game.. bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing. When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength.. warrens 76

8:37pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Strasbourg Saint says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..!

I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense...

I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game..

bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing.

When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..
That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan .....

Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.[/p][/quote]Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..! I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense... I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game.. bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing. When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..[/p][/quote]That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan ..... Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme. Strasbourg Saint

8:56pm Mon 18 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Di Canio walks, job for NA?
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/sport/football/team
s/swindon-town
Di Canio walks, job for NA? http://www.bbc.co.uk /sport/football/team s/swindon-town OSPREYSAINT

9:15pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Clever Dick says...

Confucious wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change
Mauricio is very welcome to steal my ideas. In fact his main idea came from me.

After Nigel was sacked I went away for three days at a quiet hotel to have a deep think about our team's issues. During the first two days I ploughed through all the obvious stuff - formations, selections etc etc. But then I decided I needed to get to the real core of the matter.

It suddenly occurred to me that if we have the ball, not only is the other team unable to score, but we have the absolute essential pre-requisite for scoring ourselves ie the ball.

Anyway I wrote to Mauricio and explained that our weakness, clearly visible in the match stats under Nigel, was down to the fact that the other teams had been getting the ball a lot and scoring with it and we hadn't.

He didn't reply, but no worries about that. The new "pressing all the time to get the ball a lot" strategy has obviously been adopted.

I fell out with Nicola at a corporate event when I asked him a) why Italian women seem to go from looking 19 years old to looking 64 years old during a rapid one month transition which takes place when they are in their mid-thirties and b) does his mum have a moustache?

He's an odd one that Nicola you know.
Well you may have upset him over that? Perhaps his wife is 36 and he's now on the lookout for a 19 year old who should be good for around 14-15 years. Anyway at least they took on board your suggestions regarding ball possession. So we have you to thank for the way we are currently playing.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]You obviously have a very deep insight into the game and the tactics required. I can't fault any of your logic here , but could I make a suggestion. You seem to be mailing Mo Po direct and I believe he is stealing your ideas and passing them on as his own. Perhaps you should consider going direct to NC and we will soon be expecting news of a new managerial change[/p][/quote]Mauricio is very welcome to steal my ideas. In fact his main idea came from me. After Nigel was sacked I went away for three days at a quiet hotel to have a deep think about our team's issues. During the first two days I ploughed through all the obvious stuff - formations, selections etc etc. But then I decided I needed to get to the real core of the matter. It suddenly occurred to me that if we have the ball, not only is the other team unable to score, but we have the absolute essential pre-requisite for scoring ourselves ie the ball. Anyway I wrote to Mauricio and explained that our weakness, clearly visible in the match stats under Nigel, was down to the fact that the other teams had been getting the ball a lot and scoring with it and we hadn't. He didn't reply, but no worries about that. The new "pressing all the time to get the ball a lot" strategy has obviously been adopted. I fell out with Nicola at a corporate event when I asked him a) why Italian women seem to go from looking 19 years old to looking 64 years old during a rapid one month transition which takes place when they are in their mid-thirties and b) does his mum have a moustache? He's an odd one that Nicola you know.[/p][/quote]Well you may have upset him over that? Perhaps his wife is 36 and he's now on the lookout for a 19 year old who should be good for around 14-15 years. Anyway at least they took on board your suggestions regarding ball possession. So we have you to thank for the way we are currently playing. Clever Dick

9:51pm Mon 18 Feb 13

SaintMax says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!'
Probably was. Can you imagine the cameras panning around the stadium and our lot waving the hankies as if to say bring us our Nigel back. McMillan had to be out for a laugh with that little number. Turning the club into some ridiculas soap opera. And the press who needed a story made Nicola out to be some Nero charchter, giving a thumb down with his slight manicured hand! Where in reality his decisions in general have proved to be first rate!

Things are looking so good!
Things are. Nicola wasn't employed by Markus to be a nice guy. He wanted a shrewd businessman not afraid to make tough decisions, that will always put the prospects of the business that is southampton fc first..
He just won't win first prize in the SFC popularity contest, but then isn't that Sammy Saint the Dogs job?
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.[/p][/quote]Oh how the white hanky waving episode was one to saviour. What a T I t that suggested we did that. Was he the same fan spokesman who most said 'you don't speak for me mate!'[/p][/quote]Probably was. Can you imagine the cameras panning around the stadium and our lot waving the hankies as if to say bring us our Nigel back. McMillan had to be out for a laugh with that little number. Turning the club into some ridiculas soap opera. And the press who needed a story made Nicola out to be some Nero charchter, giving a thumb down with his slight manicured hand! Where in reality his decisions in general have proved to be first rate! Things are looking so good![/p][/quote]Things are. Nicola wasn't employed by Markus to be a nice guy. He wanted a shrewd businessman not afraid to make tough decisions, that will always put the prospects of the business that is southampton fc first.. He just won't win first prize in the SFC popularity contest, but then isn't that Sammy Saint the Dogs job? SaintMax

9:56pm Mon 18 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Manure scraped a 2 1 win against Reading.
Manure scraped a 2 1 win against Reading. OSPREYSAINT

10:13pm Mon 18 Feb 13

slugger says...

Bring back Branfoot wrote:
SaintMax wrote:
Sainty saint saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston.

For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.
Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.
We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games.
But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot.
Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create.
Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium..
Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....
Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal.

We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style!

And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.
The Nicola haters will be back the minite we drop a point .........He's best thing that happened to our club by a country mile imo .
[quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintMax[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sainty saint saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: Jay is the unknown quantity, the others to varying degrees have staked a claim for a starting place, but Jay really hasn't done it yet. But at this point Poch seems to want him and Punch on the wings using their pace to create some havoc and press. If that is the case we are left with three places with four viable candidates, Cork, Morgan, Lallana and Gaston. For me Jay has to lay down a marker in the next month or I can see him becoming an endangered specie. We have so much quality in the midfield and I think Poch has ideas about adding to it.[/p][/quote]Jay was top drawer against Man City. Certainly proved himself capable to me.[/p][/quote]We can't see what Jay shows in training, only what he does on the pitch and that's improved significantly over the last few games. But I do agree with BoBranfoot that MP fancies himself an attacking creative midfielder with a good shot. Look how many Lampard has scored arriving just a little later, or sitting in the hole that Drogbar would create. Whether Gaston is that man, or the Espanyol midfield playermaker, or the Argentine bloke on strike in Belgium.. Our deep harrying (that such a word?) game wins the ball in between their D and centre circle.. If you can take three paces and crack it from there....[/p][/quote]Exactly! A player who can lurk, if you please, and pop up and take his opportunity. As far as Poch is concerned I'm a happy clapper. He's come in and a lot out of essentially the same squad that Nigel had at his disposal. We have a naturally attacking group of players and watching them get at oppositions is great to watch. And the creating your own luck which the pressing game brings suits our young players to a tee. And don't get me started on the direct style! And when Nige was given the heave ho that putz Perry McMillan wanted us all to mug ourselves off and wave white hankies like a bunch of ponces. Doing to ourselves what Delia did to those poor Norwich folk with her Let's be having you guff, the poor farmers didn't see that one coming! Funny how in such a short time the Nicola bashers have gone silent.[/p][/quote]The Nicola haters will be back the minite we drop a point .........He's best thing that happened to our club by a country mile imo . slugger

10:22pm Mon 18 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam..

However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...
Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday!
Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it.

It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers!
Loose knickers more like it...
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult![/p][/quote]Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam.. However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...[/p][/quote]Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday![/p][/quote]Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it. It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers![/p][/quote]Loose knickers more like it... warrens 76

10:24pm Mon 18 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Bring back Branfoot wrote:
Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult!
Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam..

However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...
Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday!
Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it.

It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers!
Loose knickers more like it...
Let's drop the subject?
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bring back Branfoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Good post with some good points. The width we play will defiantly determine the formation of course as well as the future of players. Width is good for Jay and Punch. I like 4-5-1 but with Jay and Punch in it means one of the the other four miss out. Difficult![/p][/quote]Well the wider the form the bigger the hole.. ooh ah madam.. However some go for length and some width, sometimes difficult for a player to please someone who wants both..although it was rumored that Viera could cover every hole and tear up and down...[/p][/quote]Ooh matron! Hope the lads put on a good show for you, Stras and Rising on Sunday![/p][/quote]Thanks, BbB. Looking forward to being there when SRL bags his 100th and then watching Pardew's reaction to it. It'll be like when Pete Best got kicked out of The Beatles because the girls all fancied him more than the other three. He must have thought, I helped get you here and this is how you repay me, bl00dy scousers![/p][/quote]Loose knickers more like it...[/p][/quote]Let's drop the subject? OSPREYSAINT

10:47pm Mon 18 Feb 13

fritzer says...

Confucious wrote:
I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole?

Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position.

I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved.

Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.
Make's a lot of sence only if Adam is back to his original fitness, Pardew is aware what Adam is all about, but the switch to Gaston would cause them a few head ache's !! have you talked to MP about this ? because he's not able to translate this Daily Echo stuff yet.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I can't quite decide between 4-4-1-1, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 against Newcastle as we need to maintain width whilst packing the midfield and also maximise creative play whilst focusing mostly on ball winning. As it's vital we score a lot of goals and don't let any in, we need a defensive emphasis with the accent on attack and flexibility to press high whilst defending deep. If we concentrate on long penetrating balls whilst playing out carefully from the back there's a major problem which remains unanswered - who goes in the hole? Normally this would be simple of course - Ramirez or Adam in the hole. But under the above scenario we can't be sure where the hole is. Indeed the hole would actually shift around the pitch quite rapidly. As Adam is the more mobile of the two, I would therefore put him in the hole, being assured that he will move fast as the hole moves. On the other hand, Gaston is more creative and is capable not just of moving with the hole, but moving the hole itself to a more advantageous position. I think we should start with Adam moving with the hole and then switch rapidly to Gaston moving the actual hole. This will confuse Pardew who will no sooner have shouted "stay with 'im in the 'ole", than the hole will have moved. Anyhow, I think the vital issue of the hole is too often overlooked on here.[/p][/quote]Make's a lot of sence only if Adam is back to his original fitness, Pardew is aware what Adam is all about, but the switch to Gaston would cause them a few head ache's !! have you talked to MP about this ? because he's not able to translate this Daily Echo stuff yet. fritzer

10:59pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..!

I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense...

I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game..

bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing.

When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..
That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan .....

Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.
Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.[/p][/quote]Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..! I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense... I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game.. bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing. When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..[/p][/quote]That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan ..... Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme. Rising_Son

11:06pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

BlueWhiteandRed is going to save pompey:


So the TRUST and us Pompey fans are in the driving seat so we must Gaurantee the TRUST win by going to all the games and donate money to the Trust otherwise it will be us the fans fault not the Trust if they fail as they have against all odds put the club in our hands its up to the 10000 + on the fence fans to contribute make.

Make it 9999 i have purchased a 12 Man £25.00 share certificate PUP ps i will get another one next week
www.pompeys12thman.c
o.uk


There'll be no stopping them now...
BlueWhiteandRed is going to save pompey: So the TRUST and us Pompey fans are in the driving seat so we must Gaurantee the TRUST win by going to all the games and donate money to the Trust otherwise it will be us the fans fault not the Trust if they fail as they have against all odds put the club in our hands its up to the 10000 + on the fence fans to contribute make. Make it 9999 i have purchased a 12 Man £25.00 share certificate PUP ps i will get another one next week www.pompeys12thman.c o.uk There'll be no stopping them now... Seedhouse the Unrepentant

11:12pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..!

I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense...

I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game..

bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing.

When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..
That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan .....

Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.
Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme.
Me too; 12000 miles from NZ surely qualifies me sit next to Seedy at the next game?

He could feed me prawn sandwiches from a silver platter whilst I down a pint or seven.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.[/p][/quote]Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..! I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense... I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game.. bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing. When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..[/p][/quote]That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan ..... Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme.[/p][/quote]Me too; 12000 miles from NZ surely qualifies me sit next to Seedy at the next game? He could feed me prawn sandwiches from a silver platter whilst I down a pint or seven. Rob The Saint NOT in NZ

5:26am Tue 19 Feb 13

Tirau Dan says...

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ...

...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans..

..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt..

Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'.

I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.
I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful.

I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.
Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..!

I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense...

I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game..

bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing.

When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..
That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan .....

Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.
Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme.
Me too; 12000 miles from NZ surely qualifies me sit next to Seedy at the next game?

He could feed me prawn sandwiches from a silver platter whilst I down a pint or seven.
If you've moved back Rob you revert to Pongolian native status and locals stop calling you a Kiwi Git. As southern pom you sop Bovril on cold nights and probably drink Carlsberg... at least the Kiwi training will stop the fosters from ever touching yer lips. Lol enjoy those sardies and 7 :)
[quote][p][bold]Rob The Saint NOT in NZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Referring to the SJP ticketing debacle...Strassie commented that the modern game gives scant regard to the fans ... ...true however our club since the early 70's at least has had a pi$$ poor attitude to the fans.. ..we cannot blame it even on Lowe and co..all the clubs heirarchy treat the fans with contempt.. Even when I had a box most of the staff except the fantastic Fred who really looked after us, were not exactly 'user friendly'. I posted earlier that in fairness to the skates there is a much much closer bond (steady) between club employees and fans than we have ever had..it's the one very poor thing about SFC.[/p][/quote]I do tend to agree, Warrens. I generally find the office staff okay but not exactly overwhelmingly helpful. I'll tell you the worst experience I ever had (as a ST holder at The Dell) when we meet.[/p][/quote]Remember the jobsworth who would not let Kevin Keegan park..! I found a couple of the Saints shop staff delightful HOWEVER the box office staff need a rocket and some bläädy commonsense... I could not get a Newcy ticket originally because even though I was in the database I had not bought a ticket for an away game.. bro puts me on phone and I inform them of the three away games I have flown to and the man who bought my tickets is in front of them and I am in Switzerland..pearls before swine...I understand sir but....but nothing. When a fan is doing a round trip like you and I of a couple thousand klicks and they know who you are and see were you live, well give me strength..[/p][/quote]That! As for RisingSon popping over from Japan ..... Maybe the club could introduce a sort of 'miles covered to get here' bonus points scheme.[/p][/quote]Actually, I'm here for a month. Newcastle, QPR and hopefully Norwich. But I`d more than happily go along with a mileage scheme.[/p][/quote]Me too; 12000 miles from NZ surely qualifies me sit next to Seedy at the next game? He could feed me prawn sandwiches from a silver platter whilst I down a pint or seven.[/p][/quote]If you've moved back Rob you revert to Pongolian native status and locals stop calling you a Kiwi Git. As southern pom you sop Bovril on cold nights and probably drink Carlsberg... at least the Kiwi training will stop the fosters from ever touching yer lips. Lol enjoy those sardies and 7 :) Tirau Dan

5:28am Tue 19 Feb 13

Tirau Dan says...

ps BwanaSaint has moved to NZ from China so we kept our numbers up :) and as an open the bloody black caps won an odi
ps BwanaSaint has moved to NZ from China so we kept our numbers up :) and as an open the bloody black caps won an odi Tirau Dan

5:28am Tue 19 Feb 13

Tirau Dan says...

Anyone Notice Gaston has rubber legs?
Anyone Notice Gaston has rubber legs? Tirau Dan

7:13am Tue 19 Feb 13

circa 66 saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
BlueWhiteandRed is going to save pompey:


So the TRUST and us Pompey fans are in the driving seat so we must Gaurantee the TRUST win by going to all the games and donate money to the Trust otherwise it will be us the fans fault not the Trust if they fail as they have against all odds put the club in our hands its up to the 10000 + on the fence fans to contribute make.

Make it 9999 i have purchased a 12 Man £25.00 share certificate PUP ps i will get another one next week
www.pompeys12thman.c

o.uk


There'll be no stopping them now...
I think i know where he got £20 of that
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: BlueWhiteandRed is going to save pompey: So the TRUST and us Pompey fans are in the driving seat so we must Gaurantee the TRUST win by going to all the games and donate money to the Trust otherwise it will be us the fans fault not the Trust if they fail as they have against all odds put the club in our hands its up to the 10000 + on the fence fans to contribute make. Make it 9999 i have purchased a 12 Man £25.00 share certificate PUP ps i will get another one next week www.pompeys12thman.c o.uk There'll be no stopping them now...[/p][/quote]I think i know where he got £20 of that circa 66 saint

9:08am Tue 19 Feb 13

TheSaintsMan says...

It should obviously be Lambert, Ramirez and Puncheon. Rodriguez is good but needs more experience, Guly is not of a good enough standard in my opinion, and while Adam is probably better than Puncheon, Jason is in the form of his life at the moment and performing magnificently. For that reason he should continue to start.
It should obviously be Lambert, Ramirez and Puncheon. Rodriguez is good but needs more experience, Guly is not of a good enough standard in my opinion, and while Adam is probably better than Puncheon, Jason is in the form of his life at the moment and performing magnificently. For that reason he should continue to start. TheSaintsMan

9:11am Tue 19 Feb 13

TheSaintsMan says...

Puddletown Saint wrote:
When all fit and playing well I would start with this:

Boruc
Clyne Yos Fos Shaw
Spider Cork
Punch Gaston Adam
Rickie

Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka
That looks perfect.
[quote][p][bold]Puddletown Saint[/bold] wrote: When all fit and playing well I would start with this: Boruc Clyne Yos Fos Shaw Spider Cork Punch Gaston Adam Rickie Gazza Fox Jose JWP Davis Jay Maka[/p][/quote]That looks perfect. TheSaintsMan

9:26am Tue 19 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

Tuesday.
No news to report.
WHICH IS GOOD!!
As that means no bad news.
Exciting times eh?
Tuesday. No news to report. WHICH IS GOOD!! As that means no bad news. Exciting times eh? Alicesdad

9:26am Tue 19 Feb 13

Alicesdad says...

I predict a riot
I predict a riot Alicesdad

9:32am Tue 19 Feb 13

Rising_Son says...

Alicesdad wrote:
I predict a riot
I'm sure you'll be right one day.
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I predict a riot[/p][/quote]I'm sure you'll be right one day. Rising_Son

7:13pm Tue 19 Feb 13

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Alicesdad wrote:
I predict a riot
I'm sure you'll be right one day.
.. and then there really will be a riot.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: I predict a riot[/p][/quote]I'm sure you'll be right one day.[/p][/quote].. and then there really will be a riot. OSPREYSAINT

9:04pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Stroppy_gramps says...

Isn't it nice to be in this position?
in the Premier League, out of the relegation zone, lovely UEFA 4 star stadium, best academy in the country, nice sound financial footing and our manager's biggest problem appears to be working out which one of the amazing strikers we have gets to play on Sunday.
(not counting Do Prado though because he is still too hit and miss for me)
Isn't it nice to be in this position? in the Premier League, out of the relegation zone, lovely UEFA 4 star stadium, best academy in the country, nice sound financial footing and our manager's biggest problem appears to be working out which one of the amazing strikers we have gets to play on Sunday. (not counting Do Prado though because he is still too hit and miss for me) Stroppy_gramps

9:17pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant

10:48am Wed 20 Feb 13

philiprhampton says...

Out of the country, we always win when watching from afar COYRs from AFRICA
Out of the country, we always win when watching from afar COYRs from AFRICA philiprhampton

4:50pm Wed 20 Feb 13

TheSaintsMan says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
Isn't it nice to be in this position?
in the Premier League, out of the relegation zone, lovely UEFA 4 star stadium, best academy in the country, nice sound financial footing and our manager's biggest problem appears to be working out which one of the amazing strikers we have gets to play on Sunday.
(not counting Do Prado though because he is still too hit and miss for me)
Hear hear!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: Isn't it nice to be in this position? in the Premier League, out of the relegation zone, lovely UEFA 4 star stadium, best academy in the country, nice sound financial footing and our manager's biggest problem appears to be working out which one of the amazing strikers we have gets to play on Sunday. (not counting Do Prado though because he is still too hit and miss for me)[/p][/quote]Hear hear! TheSaintsMan

5:01pm Wed 20 Feb 13

warrens 76 says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Anyone Notice Gaston has rubber legs?
Yes I thought that..indeed it's only suppossed to be birds who can do that bendy stuff.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Anyone Notice Gaston has rubber legs?[/p][/quote]Yes I thought that..indeed it's only suppossed to be birds who can do that bendy stuff. warrens 76

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