Cardiff want Wanyama

Victor Wanyama

Victor Wanyama

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Cardiff have attempted to steal a march in the chase for Victor Wanyama by submitting a £10m bid, after the player revealed his proposed move to Saints had stalled.

Wanyama has claimed that his club, Celtic, have accepted an offer from Saints, reported to be £12m, but the 21-year-old said the personal terms put to him were not acceptable.

Kenyan international Wanyama, pictured, said: “My manager, Neil Lennon, told me of Southampton’s offer, but, while the bid was ok for Celtic, the terms were not right for myself and my agent.”

Premier League newboys Cardiff had initially thought they would lose out on the player, but have been given new hope. They tabled a £10m bid late on Sunday night, in a proposed deal that would blow their previous transfer record of £4m out of the water.

The Welsh side were waiting to hear yesterday whether the offer would be accepted.

Wanyama added: “I am open to what offers are made, but I am relaxed and it’s important that Celtic are happy too.”

It remains to be seen whether St Mary’s chairman Nicola Cortese will continue to negotiate with Wanyama.

Along with Cardiff and Saints, it has also been reported that Turkish sides Fenerbahçe and Galatasaray are considering a move for the player.

As previously reported, Saints have made a new central midfielder one of their key priorities for this summer.

Wanyama has emerged as one of the main targets, while Cagliari’s Belgian international Radja Nainggolan has also stated he has received an offer from Saints.

Unlike Wanyama, Nainggolan suggested he was happy with the terms, describing the deal as the best financial offer on the table, but indicated he was in no rush to complete a move to Saints.

One midfielder the club will definitely not be signing is Joan Verdú.

Saints have been linked with the 30-year-old since Mauricio Pochettino arrived at St Mary’s, with the two having worked together at Espanyol. But Verdú yesterday completed his move to another Spanish side, Real Betis in a four-year deal.

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7:43am Tue 25 Jun 13

saint christopher says...

Cardiff don't appear to be in the driving seat, Saints reportedly having offered £2m more.

However if these reports of his agents trying to screw NC for £1m are true then this is a deal that is never going to happen - yes, he might be a good player for us and in the long term still be a good investment even at this price, but Cortese isn't going to lose his reputation over it.

Other fish will need to be fried. This one smells distinctly fishy.
Cardiff don't appear to be in the driving seat, Saints reportedly having offered £2m more. However if these reports of his agents trying to screw NC for £1m are true then this is a deal that is never going to happen - yes, he might be a good player for us and in the long term still be a good investment even at this price, but Cortese isn't going to lose his reputation over it. Other fish will need to be fried. This one smells distinctly fishy. saint christopher
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8:09am Tue 25 Jun 13

SiamSaint says...

saint christopher wrote:
Cardiff don't appear to be in the driving seat, Saints reportedly having offered £2m more.

However if these reports of his agents trying to screw NC for £1m are true then this is a deal that is never going to happen - yes, he might be a good player for us and in the long term still be a good investment even at this price, but Cortese isn't going to lose his reputation over it.

Other fish will need to be fried. This one smells distinctly fishy.
A fishy smelling fish? Pumpey might be interested
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: Cardiff don't appear to be in the driving seat, Saints reportedly having offered £2m more. However if these reports of his agents trying to screw NC for £1m are true then this is a deal that is never going to happen - yes, he might be a good player for us and in the long term still be a good investment even at this price, but Cortese isn't going to lose his reputation over it. Other fish will need to be fried. This one smells distinctly fishy.[/p][/quote]A fishy smelling fish? Pumpey might be interested SiamSaint
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8:37am Tue 25 Jun 13

Folkestone Saint says...

So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground.
So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground. Folkestone Saint
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9:01am Tue 25 Jun 13

adscm says...

Folkestone Saint wrote:
So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground.
That only works if (a) Celtic want to accept £10 million, ie £2 million less than what they thought they might get and (b) NC wants to change his mind (and maybe his reputation as a tough negotiator) and pay the bottom feeder his asking price.
[quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground.[/p][/quote]That only works if (a) Celtic want to accept £10 million, ie £2 million less than what they thought they might get and (b) NC wants to change his mind (and maybe his reputation as a tough negotiator) and pay the bottom feeder his asking price. adscm
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9:12am Tue 25 Jun 13

TheSaintsMan says...

Unfortunately, his attitude in the way this deal has worked so far is that of a player who wants lots of money and trophies and couldn't care less about ambition or hard work.

That said, he is a very good player and we would be lucky to get him, as he wants a top four club which he probably could get into. However, they don't seem to want him.

The deal comes down to who is willing to pay the highest wages to the player, for the balance of fee between £2million does not mean much to Celtic if they get a big loyalty cut from Wanyama.

I fear that despite Saints probably being the richer club, I think Cardiff will pay more for him as they need to strengthen much more than we do, and that is to stay in the Prem, not climb up the ladder.

We are also looking at other midfield targets which will sway how much we pay for him, and we all know Cortese tries to drive a hard bargain.

Whether he shall come to us or Cardiff is a question that is probably not answerable at the moment. But the best thing would be to stick to our ground and our terms and not get forced into constantly inflating the fees for him. If he comes to us, fantastic, if not, their are other players who are better and we could probably get cheaper.
Unfortunately, his attitude in the way this deal has worked so far is that of a player who wants lots of money and trophies and couldn't care less about ambition or hard work. That said, he is a very good player and we would be lucky to get him, as he wants a top four club which he probably could get into. However, they don't seem to want him. The deal comes down to who is willing to pay the highest wages to the player, for the balance of fee between £2million does not mean much to Celtic if they get a big loyalty cut from Wanyama. I fear that despite Saints probably being the richer club, I think Cardiff will pay more for him as they need to strengthen much more than we do, and that is to stay in the Prem, not climb up the ladder. We are also looking at other midfield targets which will sway how much we pay for him, and we all know Cortese tries to drive a hard bargain. Whether he shall come to us or Cardiff is a question that is probably not answerable at the moment. But the best thing would be to stick to our ground and our terms and not get forced into constantly inflating the fees for him. If he comes to us, fantastic, if not, their are other players who are better and we could probably get cheaper. TheSaintsMan
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9:21am Tue 25 Jun 13

Folkestone Saint says...

adscm wrote:
Folkestone Saint wrote:
So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground.
That only works if (a) Celtic want to accept £10 million, ie £2 million less than what they thought they might get and (b) NC wants to change his mind (and maybe his reputation as a tough negotiator) and pay the bottom feeder his asking price.
I was only using the £10m as that is what Cardiff are offering, but as you correctly say, if there had been a deal it will be dead and buried now as the Don is not for turning
[quote][p][bold]adscm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Folkestone Saint[/bold] wrote: So all we have to do is drop our bid to £10m, then pay the botom feeder his £1m and use the remaining £1m towards a train station at the ground.[/p][/quote]That only works if (a) Celtic want to accept £10 million, ie £2 million less than what they thought they might get and (b) NC wants to change his mind (and maybe his reputation as a tough negotiator) and pay the bottom feeder his asking price.[/p][/quote]I was only using the £10m as that is what Cardiff are offering, but as you correctly say, if there had been a deal it will be dead and buried now as the Don is not for turning Folkestone Saint
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9:25am Tue 25 Jun 13

Alicesdad says...

If he goes to Cardiff he will be playing Championship football in a year or two. There will be a relegation release clause in the contract so the agent can negotiate a transfer commission all over again.

How do I become an agent?
If he goes to Cardiff he will be playing Championship football in a year or two. There will be a relegation release clause in the contract so the agent can negotiate a transfer commission all over again. How do I become an agent? Alicesdad
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9:36am Tue 25 Jun 13

Folkestone Saint says...

Alicesdad wrote:
If he goes to Cardiff he will be playing Championship football in a year or two. There will be a relegation release clause in the contract so the agent can negotiate a transfer commission all over again.

How do I become an agent?
You have to have your soul removed first, it's done a bit like getting some one blocked on here, it's carried out by R-Soul Removers
[quote][p][bold]Alicesdad[/bold] wrote: If he goes to Cardiff he will be playing Championship football in a year or two. There will be a relegation release clause in the contract so the agent can negotiate a transfer commission all over again. How do I become an agent?[/p][/quote]You have to have your soul removed first, it's done a bit like getting some one blocked on here, it's carried out by R-Soul Removers Folkestone Saint
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9:37am Tue 25 Jun 13

Confucious says...

I think he's just using Cardiff to up his price. There's no way he'd go to Wales.

It's obviously not the land of his fathers and I doubt he'd like the women there - those slag heaps are famously dire. And he won't fancy a sheep even if it was all shampooed and dolled up with lipstick and eye shadow in an expensive WAGs' beauty parlour.

Furthermore, his game would be impaired if he had a lot of phlegm on his throat and yet without it, he won't be able to pronounce the place names. Then there's all that dreadful harmony singing.

No - in my book that Wales place is the second worst place in the world.
I think he's just using Cardiff to up his price. There's no way he'd go to Wales. It's obviously not the land of his fathers and I doubt he'd like the women there - those slag heaps are famously dire. And he won't fancy a sheep even if it was all shampooed and dolled up with lipstick and eye shadow in an expensive WAGs' beauty parlour. Furthermore, his game would be impaired if he had a lot of phlegm on his throat and yet without it, he won't be able to pronounce the place names. Then there's all that dreadful harmony singing. No - in my book that Wales place is the second worst place in the world. Confucious
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9:43am Tue 25 Jun 13

Littleton-Saint says...

Like estate agents, the football ones receive money for nothing - a few phone-calls - a nice lunch - all at someone else's expense. They are parasites. The situation tells us that Wanayama would only be with us for the cash, not the badge; otherwise he'd be more assertive with his agent. Cortese will not be impressed by Wanayama's attitude, so I suspect that the deal will be abandoned anyway.
Like estate agents, the football ones receive money for nothing - a few phone-calls - a nice lunch - all at someone else's expense. They are parasites. The situation tells us that Wanayama would only be with us for the cash, not the badge; otherwise he'd be more assertive with his agent. Cortese will not be impressed by Wanayama's attitude, so I suspect that the deal will be abandoned anyway. Littleton-Saint
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9:44am Tue 25 Jun 13

DisplacedFan says...

Confucious wrote:
I think he's just using Cardiff to up his price. There's no way he'd go to Wales.

It's obviously not the land of his fathers and I doubt he'd like the women there - those slag heaps are famously dire. And he won't fancy a sheep even if it was all shampooed and dolled up with lipstick and eye shadow in an expensive WAGs' beauty parlour.

Furthermore, his game would be impaired if he had a lot of phlegm on his throat and yet without it, he won't be able to pronounce the place names. Then there's all that dreadful harmony singing.

No - in my book that Wales place is the second worst place in the world.
Actually Fratton Park takes the first three places.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: I think he's just using Cardiff to up his price. There's no way he'd go to Wales. It's obviously not the land of his fathers and I doubt he'd like the women there - those slag heaps are famously dire. And he won't fancy a sheep even if it was all shampooed and dolled up with lipstick and eye shadow in an expensive WAGs' beauty parlour. Furthermore, his game would be impaired if he had a lot of phlegm on his throat and yet without it, he won't be able to pronounce the place names. Then there's all that dreadful harmony singing. No - in my book that Wales place is the second worst place in the world.[/p][/quote]Actually Fratton Park takes the first three places. DisplacedFan
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9:53am Tue 25 Jun 13

mbetts says...

This short term over priced deal stinks we don't need mercenaries it's not the style of player we go for.
This short term over priced deal stinks we don't need mercenaries it's not the style of player we go for. mbetts
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9:59am Tue 25 Jun 13

Folkestone Saint says...

I just hope that all but the top 4 teams will not pay what he wants, and they have not given him a look, stay in the spl (how can they call it premier when only one team wins) enjoy another long cold winter, break your leg and go back to Kenya with nothing you greedy little mercinary
I just hope that all but the top 4 teams will not pay what he wants, and they have not given him a look, stay in the spl (how can they call it premier when only one team wins) enjoy another long cold winter, break your leg and go back to Kenya with nothing you greedy little mercinary Folkestone Saint
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10:07am Tue 25 Jun 13

mbetts says...

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Victor_Wany
ama

4 youth clubs and 2 pro by the age of 21 tells me all I need to know, no thanks!
http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Victor_Wany ama 4 youth clubs and 2 pro by the age of 21 tells me all I need to know, no thanks! mbetts
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10:12am Tue 25 Jun 13

mbetts says...

Bet he ends up with Fat Sam or Arry's next victims, the only other player we had like that was Papa Waigo (Arry loanee) now plying his trade in the UAE at the age of 29, great player in spurts but only ever played for himself.
Bet he ends up with Fat Sam or Arry's next victims, the only other player we had like that was Papa Waigo (Arry loanee) now plying his trade in the UAE at the age of 29, great player in spurts but only ever played for himself. mbetts
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10:26am Tue 25 Jun 13

costa gaz says...

Obviously another totally thick footballer being used by one of footballs parasites.

Rob Moore and the rest of the parasites view players as cash cows..... and the thicker the footballer the more money there is to be made.
Obviously another totally thick footballer being used by one of footballs parasites. Rob Moore and the rest of the parasites view players as cash cows..... and the thicker the footballer the more money there is to be made. costa gaz
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11:59am Tue 25 Jun 13

Readeano says...

Breaking News:

Keep an eye out on Sky Sports news for the article saying "Celtic turn down Cardiff offer"

Sky news just reported it on TV so a report on Sky sports news site will be up soon for the link to be posted
Breaking News: Keep an eye out on Sky Sports news for the article saying "Celtic turn down Cardiff offer" Sky news just reported it on TV so a report on Sky sports news site will be up soon for the link to be posted Readeano
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12:29pm Tue 25 Jun 13

St.Yorkie says...

I know this may sound a bit out of place - but why would we want him at SMS?
The likes of Yoshida and Lee have commercial benefit for selling shirts in Japan - but what does this guy offer.
He is at best excelling in the SPL, he had a good game against a Barclona team that didn't turn up.
His price tag obviously reflects he is a Kenyan international and only 21-years old, but wages and agents fees aside is probably good value.
The problem I have is I just don't know enough about the player. There are very few African players who really demonstrate the sort of committment I want in my players. Look at Drogba - great goal scorer but only when he wanted to be bothered. Then again look at Toure at Man City. He gives 110% every week and earns his mony when the players around him seemed disinterested.
Still not convinced about South Americans or Africans getting a game over here...they just aren't up for it week in week out in sub-zero temperatures, rain, wind and snow!
Exotic sounding names, large wage packets, big egoes and not suited to our game...yet they still get bought!
I know this may sound a bit out of place - but why would we want him at SMS? The likes of Yoshida and Lee have commercial benefit for selling shirts in Japan - but what does this guy offer. He is at best excelling in the SPL, he had a good game against a Barclona team that didn't turn up. His price tag obviously reflects he is a Kenyan international and only 21-years old, but wages and agents fees aside is probably good value. The problem I have is I just don't know enough about the player. There are very few African players who really demonstrate the sort of committment I want in my players. Look at Drogba - great goal scorer but only when he wanted to be bothered. Then again look at Toure at Man City. He gives 110% every week and earns his mony when the players around him seemed disinterested. Still not convinced about South Americans or Africans getting a game over here...they just aren't up for it week in week out in sub-zero temperatures, rain, wind and snow! Exotic sounding names, large wage packets, big egoes and not suited to our game...yet they still get bought! St.Yorkie
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12:29pm Tue 25 Jun 13

St.Yorkie says...

I know this may sound a bit out of place - but why would we want him at SMS?
The likes of Yoshida and Lee have commercial benefit for selling shirts in Japan - but what does this guy offer.
He is at best excelling in the SPL, he had a good game against a Barclona team that didn't turn up.
His price tag obviously reflects he is a Kenyan international and only 21-years old, but wages and agents fees aside is probably good value.
The problem I have is I just don't know enough about the player. There are very few African players who really demonstrate the sort of committment I want in my players. Look at Drogba - great goal scorer but only when he wanted to be bothered. Then again look at Toure at Man City. He gives 110% every week and earns his mony when the players around him seemed disinterested.
Still not convinced about South Americans or Africans getting a game over here...they just aren't up for it week in week out in sub-zero temperatures, rain, wind and snow!
Exotic sounding names, large wage packets, big egoes and not suited to our game...yet they still get bought!
I know this may sound a bit out of place - but why would we want him at SMS? The likes of Yoshida and Lee have commercial benefit for selling shirts in Japan - but what does this guy offer. He is at best excelling in the SPL, he had a good game against a Barclona team that didn't turn up. His price tag obviously reflects he is a Kenyan international and only 21-years old, but wages and agents fees aside is probably good value. The problem I have is I just don't know enough about the player. There are very few African players who really demonstrate the sort of committment I want in my players. Look at Drogba - great goal scorer but only when he wanted to be bothered. Then again look at Toure at Man City. He gives 110% every week and earns his mony when the players around him seemed disinterested. Still not convinced about South Americans or Africans getting a game over here...they just aren't up for it week in week out in sub-zero temperatures, rain, wind and snow! Exotic sounding names, large wage packets, big egoes and not suited to our game...yet they still get bought! St.Yorkie
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5:57pm Tue 25 Jun 13

saints in my veins says...

go to cardiff wambama,i suppose they can offer european football............
................... in the english prem next season hahahaha you plank !!!!!!!!!
go to cardiff wambama,i suppose they can offer european football............ ................... in the english prem next season hahahaha you plank !!!!!!!!! saints in my veins
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10:43pm Tue 25 Jun 13

FindAndDestroy says...

TheSaintsMan wrote:
Unfortunately, his attitude in the way this deal has worked so far is that of a player who wants lots of money and trophies and couldn't care less about ambition or hard work.

That said, he is a very good player and we would be lucky to get him, as he wants a top four club which he probably could get into. However, they don't seem to want him.

The deal comes down to who is willing to pay the highest wages to the player, for the balance of fee between £2million does not mean much to Celtic if they get a big loyalty cut from Wanyama.

I fear that despite Saints probably being the richer club, I think Cardiff will pay more for him as they need to strengthen much more than we do, and that is to stay in the Prem, not climb up the ladder.

We are also looking at other midfield targets which will sway how much we pay for him, and we all know Cortese tries to drive a hard bargain.

Whether he shall come to us or Cardiff is a question that is probably not answerable at the moment. But the best thing would be to stick to our ground and our terms and not get forced into constantly inflating the fees for him. If he comes to us, fantastic, if not, their are other players who are better and we could probably get cheaper.
There is not doubt he is a good player, but Big clubs don't seem to want him, I think because they have got their position covered,and if he was that special, I am sure bigger clubs would be queuing for him right now..obviously him and his agent are money driven, they must not forget he would a new comer in the premier league from SPL ( less competitive league) not even from Spanish or Italian or German or French Leagues, maybe that's why bigger clubs are a bit reluctant in signing him..
But signing for saints would probably give him a platform in the EPL or use it as a stepping stone to establish himself, and if he does, he may just be worth more than he is worth at the moment, if his plan is to play for a bigger club in the future, they will be queuing for him, just like the attention our young Luke is getting from the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and so on, beacause he has established himself in the EPL.
He is still very young,but he wants to move fast,he is a bit thick and doesn't think big, they are used as money makers by their agents...
He is not a proven EPL player yet...so let see what he does..
[quote][p][bold]TheSaintsMan[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately, his attitude in the way this deal has worked so far is that of a player who wants lots of money and trophies and couldn't care less about ambition or hard work. That said, he is a very good player and we would be lucky to get him, as he wants a top four club which he probably could get into. However, they don't seem to want him. The deal comes down to who is willing to pay the highest wages to the player, for the balance of fee between £2million does not mean much to Celtic if they get a big loyalty cut from Wanyama. I fear that despite Saints probably being the richer club, I think Cardiff will pay more for him as they need to strengthen much more than we do, and that is to stay in the Prem, not climb up the ladder. We are also looking at other midfield targets which will sway how much we pay for him, and we all know Cortese tries to drive a hard bargain. Whether he shall come to us or Cardiff is a question that is probably not answerable at the moment. But the best thing would be to stick to our ground and our terms and not get forced into constantly inflating the fees for him. If he comes to us, fantastic, if not, their are other players who are better and we could probably get cheaper.[/p][/quote]There is not doubt he is a good player, but Big clubs don't seem to want him, I think because they have got their position covered,and if he was that special, I am sure bigger clubs would be queuing for him right now..obviously him and his agent are money driven, they must not forget he would a new comer in the premier league from SPL ( less competitive league) not even from Spanish or Italian or German or French Leagues, maybe that's why bigger clubs are a bit reluctant in signing him.. But signing for saints would probably give him a platform in the EPL or use it as a stepping stone to establish himself, and if he does, he may just be worth more than he is worth at the moment, if his plan is to play for a bigger club in the future, they will be queuing for him, just like the attention our young Luke is getting from the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal and so on, beacause he has established himself in the EPL. He is still very young,but he wants to move fast,he is a bit thick and doesn't think big, they are used as money makers by their agents... He is not a proven EPL player yet...so let see what he does.. FindAndDestroy
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