Mystery group waiting in wings for possible Southampton takeover

Mystery group poised for 11th hour Saints bid Mystery group poised for 11th hour Saints bid

A MYSTERY overseas group could be poised to make a dramatic 11th hour bid for control of Saints.

The Echo understands that the consortium are waiting in the wings if the Matt Le Tissier-backed Pinnacle bid fails to meet administrator Mark Fry’s deadline extension today.

We revealed last Wednesday that an overseas group had made contact with Pinnacle’s Tony Lyeham a few days earlier with a view to possibly combining funds.

But it is now believed the group are keen to take control of the financially- stricken club by themselves.

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The group have been in discussion with Fry for over a week but have yet to table an official bid.

The Echo reported on Saturday how the Pinnacle consortium – who have been dealing with the administrator for around a fortnight now – failed to meet Fry’s initial deadline of the previous day.

The delay centred on an exchange of legal documents setting the wheels in motion for their bid.

See today's paper for more on this story

Comments(58)

kinkyboots70 says...
12:12pm Mon 18 May 09

looks like the echo are running out of stories.was this article written by hans christian anderson or is it the beano

kinkyboots70 says...
12:12pm Mon 18 May 09

looks like the echo are running out of stories.was this article written by hans christian anderson or is it the beano

norfolksaint says...
12:13pm Mon 18 May 09

SOMEBODY PLEASE JUST BUY OUR CLUB.

UTS says...
12:15pm Mon 18 May 09

I have some reservations now that the delay was down to paperwork.

Talk of getting more for the stadium on its own seems to be doing well on the rumour front.

Charlie George's Lawnmower says...
12:16pm Mon 18 May 09

"COULD"

"COULD"

"COULD"

"COULD"

"COULD"

"COULD"

Just giving the Echo a few coulds in advance of them using them extensively over the coming days.

kinkyboots70 says...
12:20pm Mon 18 May 09

adam leitch a k a walter mitty is what im thinking or maybe aesop of aesops fables fame

Bright Spark says...
12:24pm Mon 18 May 09

I can confirm that the overseas group are the owners of the Isle of Wight chain ferry.

Ciaran says...
12:28pm Mon 18 May 09

The amount of petulance on these comments never fails to astound me.

dorsetsaints says...
12:31pm Mon 18 May 09

can someone just get on with it!
we need to get selling season tickets and signing up Kelvin

OSPREYSAINT says...
12:33pm Mon 18 May 09

Could it be IKEA, maybe they want to paint the whole stadium yellow? Flat pack goal posts could be novel. Security word tiny-deal how apt.

Costa Baz says...
12:43pm Mon 18 May 09

My concern (other than not finding a buyer) is if the 2 groups DO join forces as has been previously suggested in the Echo.

I'd hate to see another scenario where we have 2 or 3 people with different views splitting the club down the middle again, meaning that the club never goes forwards only backwards.

FaceonaBus says...
12:46pm Mon 18 May 09

Seems a bit worrying that the number one bidders, backed by MLT , have had to withdraw.This just seems to get worse an worse as time progress's. Now we are onto the Mystery overseas bidder, that may not have enough of their own money,or it seems that way as they wanted to join forces with Pinnacle.
Is there any good news out there.
Surely we have got to be a good little deal for someone, SMS, Staplewood, Jacksons farm etc. Regardless of being an SFC fan, froom a business point of view it has to be a deal to be snatched at.....hasnt it?

SW GREY-POOR !! oh joy !!!!!!!!!

COYR COYR

FaceonaBus says...
12:49pm Mon 18 May 09

Just heard via email that apparently MR FRY has stated that he does not believe he will be able to sell SFC, whats that all about that?? Has anyone else heard this statement???

COYR COYR

Bartonian says...
12:55pm Mon 18 May 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
Just heard via email that apparently MR FRY has stated that he does not believe he will be able to sell SFC, whats that all about that?? Has anyone else heard this statement??? COYR COYR
If that's the case, could he do the next best thing and give it away?

gkmeech says...
12:57pm Mon 18 May 09

Why was Jack Nicklaus in town last week? Yes .. it is a fact, he was in town ... stayed for about 8 hours.

Invidia says...
12:57pm Mon 18 May 09

FaceonaBus wrote:
Just heard via email that apparently MR FRY has stated that he does not believe he will be able to sell SFC, whats that all about that?? Has anyone else heard this statement??? COYR COYR
No

Bassett Boy says...
1:07pm Mon 18 May 09

Someone will buy the club eventually, even if it is for £1 (aka Leeds U) trouble is, if we are declared insolvent first then another 10pt deduction happens. -20pt start to the season, with what will probably be, essentially, the academy team could very well end up in another relegation next season.
Still, even that is preferable than Roops BUYING the club, we'd never ever be able to get rid of him then!

Patrick80's says...
1:08pm Mon 18 May 09

Sounesssss is the Man ! :-) He has just bought a house in the new forest !

SW: Word-Acid

Bright Spark says...
1:10pm Mon 18 May 09

gkmeech wrote:
Why was Jack Nicklaus in town last week? Yes .. it is a fact, he was in town ... stayed for about 8 hours.
I saw him at the pitch and putt in Woodmill, he double bogeyed the par 3 fifth.

dannyfloyd says...
1:15pm Mon 18 May 09

from bbc... not looking good.

Southampton sale 'unlikely'- Fry

Fry says the Pinnacle consortium has not yet delivered what it promised
The administrators in charge of Southampton say finding a buyer for the club now looks "unlikely".

Mark Fry of administrator Begbies Traynor told BBC Radio Solent: "It's very unlikely a transaction will be completed."

The Pinnacle consortium, backed by Saints legend Matt Le Tissier, has had its deadline extended until late on Monday afternoon.

"They haven't delivered what they said ," Fry added.

Pinnacle managing director Tony Lynam remains optimistic, however.

"I'm still working on it and if I wasn't confident, I think I would have packed my bags by now. But I'm pretty sure there will be a bid fairly shortly," he said.

Other parties are understood to be in the running to rescue the ailing club, which has just been relegated from the Championship.


PUP says...
1:20pm Mon 18 May 09

Lets face it, with the excpected attendance next season you might as well sell the training ground and stadium and play at Eastleigh

doogle1983 says...
1:23pm Mon 18 May 09

two simple words sum this who scenario up: A JOKE!

For godsake sort out the club and lets get moving forwards or not at all.

Saints No 1 Fan says...
1:24pm Mon 18 May 09

oh dear I just read that on the BBC news website aswell. It looks like Southampton FC will be no more!

Sad sad day.

saint Compo says...
1:26pm Mon 18 May 09

Somebody will take over the football club and stadium eventually. The City Council may yet take care of the stadium if the bidders do not want more than just the football club.

I suspect that a 'foreign' buyer would have more funds to invest in the club following a takeover than the Guernsey people. That said, the administrator's legal duty is to get the best deal for the PLC, regardless of how much money is subsequently available to invest in the football club.

The delay is worrying because there are bills to pay (wages, VAT etc) and there's a serious risk that players will have to be sold (at firesale prices) not just to raise cash but because they will be anxiously looking to their futures.

Once a preferred bidder is chosen, it will take another 2 weeks to get the approval of the PLC's creditors. I can't see that the preferred bidder would put in any money until the creditors'approval is obtained.

If there is any default by the football club in paying any of its debts, will there be an additional points deduction imposed by the Football League?

Tempus fugit. O me miserum.

COYR

St Retford says...
1:26pm Mon 18 May 09

O dear. It looks as though Fry is getting as hacked off with this as everyone else. Hopefully he's just trying to put a bit of pressure on them to get things moving.

tauntonsaint says...
1:29pm Mon 18 May 09

I've seen the 'Mystery Buyers' entering SMS.

Theyr'e all wearing black capes, top hats and have long moustaches which they keep stroking in a mysterious fashion :-)

No, really!

allsaintsnocurves says...
1:30pm Mon 18 May 09

It's all media yarn! Fry's saying it's unlikely to get a buyer to speed things up with Pinnacle and highten the interest for the other 2 parties negotiating.

I personally would like to see Pinnacle pool their resources with the overseas investors! I can see the takeover going through otherwise...but I would expect it will then be revealed that there is little money in the transfer market until players are sold!

The more last minute that this takeover is though and the better the deal the investors will get for the club...and therefore, the more money that we can use for the team!

SomersetSaint says...
1:32pm Mon 18 May 09

PUP wrote:
Lets face it, with the excpected attendance next season you might as well sell the training ground and stadium and play at Eastleigh
Tw@t!!

jezza says...
1:39pm Mon 18 May 09

The Mystery Machine is parked outside of St Mary's, but there is no sign of that big dopey-looking dog.

Still, I suppose they won't be the first Saints owners not to have a scooby-doo!!

tmk saints says...
1:41pm Mon 18 May 09

Some things never change,false dawn after false dawn.Either these groups have the money or not.Would LeGod lay his reputation on the line,I think not.matt get this thing moving.COYR

FaceonaBus says...
1:56pm Mon 18 May 09

Its gotta happen, Just cant get my head round the thought that Saints will cease to exist. That makes me an ex saint.

Security words debt-less !!

COYR COYR

True Saints Fan says...
2:03pm Mon 18 May 09

I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..

Invidia says...
2:18pm Mon 18 May 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..
Yeah, and watch out for low flying pigs

Linesman says...
2:20pm Mon 18 May 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..
That makes excellent business sense!

Pompey fans would not travel to Southampton and Southampton fans would not support Pompey playing at St Marys.

Net result?

Another club in administration, faster than it took Saints.


dannyfloyd says...
2:48pm Mon 18 May 09

Linesman wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote: I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..
That makes excellent business sense! Pompey fans would not travel to Southampton and Southampton fans would not support Pompey playing at St Marys. Net result? Another club in administration, faster than it took Saints.
if it were sheffield or bristol etc i could believe it but really, don't be an idiot. these comments are just mental. and we'll call the team what? South Hampshire FC? i'm hearing a strong buzzing sound in my ear... these windows taste good... i've been trying for thirty eight minutes to lick my own ear. now i'm just dizzy. just spoke to elvis and he says he'd buy it if only he were a. alive and b. able to leave the US.

lemsip says...
2:52pm Mon 18 May 09

True Saints Fan wrote:
I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..
We'll considering that they are in about 30 mill in debt i dont see how that would benefit anyonee!!!

Bright Spark says...
3:05pm Mon 18 May 09

saint Compo, Winchester says...
1:26pm Mon 18 May 09

"Tempus fugit. O me miserum"

Time fugitive O me wrethed?

What are you talking about man? Conjugate the verb.

Invidia says...
3:11pm Mon 18 May 09

Bright Spark wrote:
saint Compo, Winchester says... 1:26pm Mon 18 May 09 "Tempus fugit. O me miserum" Time fugitive O me wrethed? What are you talking about man? Conjugate the verb.
Is it not "wretched"

tauntonsaint says...
3:14pm Mon 18 May 09

Footballitatum?

Est it nottus?

Marvellentus in maximus est

Ronus Managerus

Glen Wiffen says...
3:16pm Mon 18 May 09

ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
Wake me up when the nightmare is finaly over. I see headlines and deadlines, the players will go never the less if their future is uncertain, SORT IT OUT NOW!!!!

captain_fantastic says...
3:45pm Mon 18 May 09

mystery group. There is very little mysterious about it. Blatently Rupert Lowe with his secrecy clause.

Why else did he go to the forest match...

security word : much-trip

colesey1 says...
4:00pm Mon 18 May 09

Come on Mr Fry if there not interested try the people from abroad. just save our saints.

Captain Swing says...
4:17pm Mon 18 May 09

Remember the good old days, about this time in 2006, when it seemed everyone of any significance localy was being quoted, prominently, in the Echo as saying that as soon as Rupert left there would be queus forming to chuck massive sums money at the club?
The joke's on us!
Anyone out there laughing?

FaceonaBus says...
4:18pm Mon 18 May 09

lemsip wrote:
True Saints Fan wrote:
I work in the media in London and I've been hearing "very strong rumors" apparently that Saints are to Merge with Pompey.. Pompey are interested in the far superior facilities that Sanits have and are thought to be considering a deal that effectively destroys Saints forever..
We'll considering that they are in about 30 mill in debt i dont see how that would benefit anyonee!!!
where is your carer TRUE saints fan. Should you be allowed out on your own. Make sure theres no sharp edges on the keyboard.

DO YOU REALLY THINK EITHER TOWN WOULD LET THAT HAPPEN.



COYR COYR

Invidia says...
4:27pm Mon 18 May 09

Captain Swing wrote:
Remember the good old days, about this time in 2006, when it seemed everyone of any significance localy was being quoted, prominently, in the Echo as saying that as soon as Rupert left there would be queus forming to chuck massive sums money at the club? The joke's on us! Anyone out there laughing?
I have looked back in the archives and can find no such quotes. your making it up you little tinker!!!

Patrick80's says...
5:12pm Mon 18 May 09

Souness & Joorabchian are the mystery group waiting in the wings.

SW: city-wait, Rather adapt

Saint Rob says...
5:21pm Mon 18 May 09

If Souness and Joorabchian are 2 buy the club, doesn't Joorachian own the rights 2 Carlos Tevez? As is future at Manchester United looks like not happening, maybe he will join Saints lmao. Jokes aside...watched the Man United vs. arsenal match on Saturday and they show pictures of Joorabchian and he was on the phone with his hand over his mouth, maybe he was in talks with Mr.Fry

saint Compo says...
5:54pm Mon 18 May 09

Saint Rob wrote:
If Souness and Joorabchian are 2 buy the club, doesn't Joorachian own the rights 2 Carlos Tevez? As is future at Manchester United looks like not happening, maybe he will join Saints lmao. Jokes aside...watched the Man United vs. arsenal match on Saturday and they show pictures of Joorabchian and he was on the phone with his hand over his mouth, maybe he was in talks with Mr.Fry
Perhaps he's just got bad breath!

Captain Swing says...
6:20pm Mon 18 May 09

Invidia wrote:
Captain Swing wrote: Remember the good old days, about this time in 2006, when it seemed everyone of any significance localy was being quoted, prominently, in the Echo as saying that as soon as Rupert left there would be queus forming to chuck massive sums money at the club? The joke's on us! Anyone out there laughing?
I have looked back in the archives and can find no such quotes. your making it up you little tinker!!!
Invicta, you couldn’t research your way to the Newspaper House Library (which is probably a qualification to give you Simon Carter’s job), but if you check out the Echo’s Saints’ content from February 2003 onwards you will find that there is an editorial trend that strongly and incessantly suggests that all aspects of Rupert’s judgements were, at the very least, questionable. These suggestions, backed up – often hysterically – by “readers” letters continued non-stop until Michael Wilde’s rapturous reception to the chairmanship. Remember good old Mike Osman at St Mary’s for the first match of the 2003-04 season? “Thank you! Thank you Michael Wilde, for giving us back our football club!” Cue standing ovation.
If you are looking for evidence of my claim, check out the back page of the 23 June, 2006, edition, beneath the bold headline “GAVYN: I’M BACKING WILDE” Under which it is stated: “The multi-millionaire former BBC chairman , a lifelong Saints supporter with a personal fortune of at least £100m, leaves open the tantalising prospect of him investing in the club if Rupert Lowe loses his grip on power at St Mary’s.” and so on.
These sentiments were supported by countless thou- well, handfuls of those “in the know”, such as Lawrie McMenemy, Mary Corbett, Lawrie McMenemy, Keith Wiseman, Lawrie McMenemy . . . Need I go on? The point is, the Echo was conned by a very pricey public relations campaign, and the Echo conned its readers. As a result, we are going to be very lucky to have a football club to support next season (quite possibly for some time) because of gullible morons like you Invidia.
Still, no more Rupert! Happy?

UTS says...
7:55pm Mon 18 May 09

Why doesnt the Echo name this 'mystery' group like they did Jackson and Green ?

It all just sounds like bouncing PR to scare those that are sat around the table.

Invidia says...
10:29pm Mon 18 May 09

Captain Swing wrote:
Invidia wrote:
Captain Swing wrote: Remember the good old days, about this time in 2006, when it seemed everyone of any significance localy was being quoted, prominently, in the Echo as saying that as soon as Rupert left there would be queus forming to chuck massive sums money at the club? The joke's on us! Anyone out there laughing?
I have looked back in the archives and can find no such quotes. your making it up you little tinker!!!
Invicta, you couldn’t research your way to the Newspaper House Library (which is probably a qualification to give you Simon Carter’s job), but if you check out the Echo’s Saints’ content from February 2003 onwards you will find that there is an editorial trend that strongly and incessantly suggests that all aspects of Rupert’s judgements were, at the very least, questionable. These suggestions, backed up – often hysterically – by “readers” letters continued non-stop until Michael Wilde’s rapturous reception to the chairmanship. Remember good old Mike Osman at St Mary’s for the first match of the 2003-04 season? “Thank you! Thank you Michael Wilde, for giving us back our football club!” Cue standing ovation. If you are looking for evidence of my claim, check out the back page of the 23 June, 2006, edition, beneath the bold headline “GAVYN: I’M BACKING WILDE” Under which it is stated: “The multi-millionaire former BBC chairman , a lifelong Saints supporter with a personal fortune of at least £100m, leaves open the tantalising prospect of him investing in the club if Rupert Lowe loses his grip on power at St Mary’s.” and so on. These sentiments were supported by countless thou- well, handfuls of those “in the know”, such as Lawrie McMenemy, Mary Corbett, Lawrie McMenemy, Keith Wiseman, Lawrie McMenemy . . . Need I go on? The point is, the Echo was conned by a very pricey public relations campaign, and the Echo conned its readers. As a result, we are going to be very lucky to have a football club to support next season (quite possibly for some time) because of gullible morons like you Invidia. Still, no more Rupert! Happy?
My, My who's a clever boy then, it must be tiresome being such a clever DICK, you must be proud of yourself when you are looking in the mirror


SW nobed

F Fan says...
10:55pm Mon 18 May 09

Invidia wrote:
Captain Swing wrote:
Invidia wrote:
Captain Swing wrote: Remember the good old days, about this time in 2006, when it seemed everyone of any significance localy was being quoted, prominently, in the Echo as saying that as soon as Rupert left there would be queus forming to chuck massive sums money at the club? The joke's on us! Anyone out there laughing?
I have looked back in the archives and can find no such quotes. your making it up you little tinker!!!
Invicta, you couldn’t research your way to the Newspaper House Library (which is probably a qualification to give you Simon Carter’s job), but if you check out the Echo’s Saints’ content from February 2003 onwards you will find that there is an editorial trend that strongly and incessantly suggests that all aspects of Rupert’s judgements were, at the very least, questionable. These suggestions, backed up – often hysterically – by “readers” letters continued non-stop until Michael Wilde’s rapturous reception to the chairmanship. Remember good old Mike Osman at St Mary’s for the first match of the 2003-04 season? “Thank you! Thank you Michael Wilde, for giving us back our football club!” Cue standing ovation. If you are looking for evidence of my claim, check out the back page of the 23 June, 2006, edition, beneath the bold headline “GAVYN: I’M BACKING WILDE” Under which it is stated: “The multi-millionaire former BBC chairman , a lifelong Saints supporter with a personal fortune of at least £100m, leaves open the tantalising prospect of him investing in the club if Rupert Lowe loses his grip on power at St Mary’s.” and so on. These sentiments were supported by countless thou- well, handfuls of those “in the know”, such as Lawrie McMenemy, Mary Corbett, Lawrie McMenemy, Keith Wiseman, Lawrie McMenemy . . . Need I go on? The point is, the Echo was conned by a very pricey public relations campaign, and the Echo conned its readers. As a result, we are going to be very lucky to have a football club to support next season (quite possibly for some time) because of gullible morons like you Invidia. Still, no more Rupert! Happy?
My, My who's a clever boy then, it must be tiresome being such a clever DICK, you must be proud of yourself when you are looking in the mirror


SW nobed
Oh dear, Invida - sometimes you do let yourself down. You chanced your hand and s/he called your bluff nicely - take it like a man.

Invidia says...
7:48am Tue 19 May 09

I would have F FAN, if it had not been so rude!

Invidia says...
7:50am Tue 19 May 09

PS, NOT ALL OF WHAT HE HAS WRITTEN IS TRUE

Red & White Never Blue says...
11:46am Tue 19 May 09

PUP wrote:
Lets face it, with the excpected attendance next season you might as well sell the training ground and stadium and play at Eastleigh
We can't play at Eastleigh you skate tw*t. You're forgetting that your shower of sh*t train there as you haven't even got a training ground. As for attendances you're having a laugh. You can't even fill that sh*t hole of a ground in sh*t city that isn't fit enough for the Hampshire League let alone the Championship where you'll be after next season. See you there you F***ing Pr**k. Quite clever though aren't you for a baby dog.

Redhat says...
12:15pm Tue 19 May 09

PUP wrote:
Lets face it, with the excpected attendance next season you might as well sell the training ground and stadium and play at Eastleigh
thing is,even in league one...we'll still get more than your shed gets!!

derek james says...
12:22pm Tue 19 May 09

to my knowledge no league club has disappeared since accrington stanley many years ago, hope fully will stay that way

BertCatt says...
12:36am Wed 20 May 09

So what happened then? Still NO news!!!

Security word lose-past, sounds like a good idea, especially if we lose the Prince of Darkness!

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