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Plenty of names in the frame for Saints job


ONE of the most important decisions facing the Pinnacle group should they complete a takeover of Saints is who will manage the side.

Head coach Mark Wotte held talks with Pinnacle on Wednesday morning, but both parties have refused to reveal any outcome of the meeting.

That has led to speculation that the Dutchman could be on his way, or asked to revert to another role, possibly his old post of academy director.

It is understood Pinnacle have their own ideas about who they would like to see in charge. That is almost always the case when new owners come into a club.

But Wotte has had an opportunity to discuss his vision for the team with the potential new owners. Whether that is enough to persuade Pinnacle to allow him to continue in the top job should they take over is unclear.

That decision is likely to come down to the likes of potential board members Matt Le Tissier and Tony Lynam.

Fans have been speculating from the start of Pinnacle’s period of exclusivity about who will be manager if they take over.

Here, The Pink looks at who some of potential candidates.

Mark Wotte

Took over the head coach job after the departure of fellow Dutchman Jan Poortvliet in January.

Oversaw an improvement in the Saints side, but it was ultimately not enough to save them from relegation to League One.

Wotte was not helped by off-field issues beyond his control, such as administration and the imposition of a ten-point deduction that sealed Saints’ fate, all of which undoubtedly had an impact on the team.

Wotte has worked diligently since the season ended to keep players informed of what is going on and encourage some of the more experienced, out-of-contract, members of the squad to consider extending their stays.

Has a good reputation of working with youngsters and already knows the players well.

Steve Coppell Steve Coppell

Left Reading last month after the Royals were knocked out of the Championship play-offs by Burnley.

Took Reading into the top flight for the first time in their history in 2005/06.

Guided the Royals to an eighth place finish in the Premier League, but they were relegated the following season.

Is likely to attract interest from a lot of Football League clubs looking for managers.

It is unclear, though, whether Coppell wants an immediate return to football management.

Steve Cotterill Steve Cotterill

Made his name at Cheltenham Town, taking them from the non-league into League One.

Went on to join Stoke and, after a spell as assistant to Howard Wilkinson at Sunderland, became Burnley manager in 2004, leaving Turf Moor three-and-a-half years later and is still out of work.

Linked with vacancies at Saints in the past, he is well proven at League One and Championship level.

Ian Dowie Iain Dowie

Played with Le Tissier during four-year Dell spell (1991-1995).

Went on to carve a career in management.

Had spells at Oldham, Crystal Palace, Charlton, Coventry and QPR. Also joined Alan Shearer at Newcastle as assistant manager towards the end of last season.

Has links to Saints, but has had mixed results in his managerial career.

Gordon Strachan Gordon Strachan

Loved by Saints fans for his success while in charge at St Mary’s for a three-year spell from 2001 to 2004.

Guided the club to the 2003 FA Cup Final and their highest ever finish in the Premier League.

Won the SPL title in his first three years at Celtic but left at the end of this season, after Rangers pipped him to the title.

Still spends time in this part of the world, although probably a long shot given Saints’ position.

Aidy Boothroyd

Currently out of a job after leaving Watford by mutual consent in November last year.

At just 38 he is a young manager, but has had plenty of success in his short coaching career.

He won promotion to the Premier League in his first full season as manager.

The next season, Watford reached the FA Cup semi-final.

Paul Tisdale

IS attracting plenty of interest after taking Exeter City from Conference to League One in the space of just two years.

Tisdale spent six years as a player at Saints in the 1990s, after coming through the youth system at the Dell.

He retired early, due to injury, and took up a coaching role at Team Bath for five years, helping the university side to the first round proper of the FA Cup in 2002/03.

At just 36, he is one of the youngest managers in the game.

His links to Saints, combined with his promise, would make him an appealing prospect for some supporters.

Paul Ince

Built up an impressive reputation at Macclesfield and MK Dons. Saved Macclesfield from relegation out of the Football League.

Then guided MK Dons to the League Two title, before being appointed boss at Blackburn.

However, Ince was sacked after just six months in charge at Ewood Park and has been out of management since.

Glenn Hoddle

Very much an outside bet, considering he and Matt Le Tissier have not always seen eye to eye.

Hoddle is also enjoying running his football academy in Spain, which aims to give young players who have fallen out of the professional game a route back into it.

Spent a successful 12 months in charge of Saints from 2000 to 2001, but left under acrimonious circumstances.

Comments(57)

gregsoton says...
9:54am Mon 8 Jun 09

Would like to see Bothroyd or even Tisdale come in with Coppell as DOF but that is a long shot I think. Anyone other Dowie or Cotterill plz.

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says...
10:01am Mon 8 Jun 09

I am thinking of buying the Echo and it is obvious that I will need a new sports editor. I need someone who is really up to the job and able to take the paper forward. Any ideas as to who it should be other than the current inept incumbents?

SomersetSaint says...
10:15am Mon 8 Jun 09

Hercules - why bother slagging the Echo when we all trawl the site daily for latest developments?!! In terms of possible new manager, I think we have to be realistic. To think we could poach Tisdale who has just got Exeter promoted to Div. 1 smacks of pure arrogance! Ronnie Moore or Cotterill I suspect.

CliffordNelson says...
10:17am Mon 8 Jun 09

Tony Lynam should not be involved in the choice of manager. This is a job for people with genuine football knowledge and, with respect, he hasn't got it.

As I have stated earlier here, Lynam and the owner should lay down the strategy for the club for the next few years, including the financing of it.

Then they should appoint a Director of Football, or a Football Board to make sure that vision is fulfilled. That means that they are responsible for the tactics.

The Director, or the Board, should appoint the manager as well as any future dismissal of him.

The incompetent interference in football matters by people who don't fully understand them is the very arrogance that this club has suffered for years.

I sincerely hope that they haven't gone and asked the manager for the vision. That is not the manager's role.

Have they never heard, or understood, the saying "Directors direct and Managers manage!"

MCST says...
10:20am Mon 8 Jun 09

I am new to this site and have always followed the Saints and Bournemouth, i would like to see Eddie Howe as a possible new manager as when he took over from Jimmmy Quinn, the teams turn around and was truly brilliant, he seemed to get the team playing as a team and not individuals as before under Jimmy.
However when i was in M&S at about 9.30 on Saturday i saw MLT in there with another guy who to looked very much like Paul Tisdale, but i am not 100% certain it was Paul but it certainly looked like him to me.
Perhaps they were buying new suits?

The_Shotster says...
10:30am Mon 8 Jun 09

We should start as we mean to go on by appointing an experienced manager with a good record. Paul Tisdale and Paul Ince do not fit that category. Paul Ince's record at Macclesfield was obviously very good but he is still inexperienced. I don't think we should take the risk on him or Paul Tisdale. If Incy did any good he would jump to a bigger club without a second thought also. We need a stayer to provide a long term future for the club. We want a passionate and loyal manager who is prepared to be in it for the long haul. Although you can't argue that Steve Coppell is a very good candidate, he is far too boring and he let's the pressure get to him too easilly. I am not sure he has ever been cut out to do the job. He would make a great coach if he wasn't the man making the ultimate decisions. We don't need anyone who would walk as soon as the chips were down.

The_Shotster says...
10:30am Mon 8 Jun 09

We should start as we mean to go on by appointing an experienced manager with a good record. Paul Tisdale and Paul Ince do not fit that category. Paul Ince's record at Macclesfield was obviously very good but he is still inexperienced. I don't think we should take the risk on him or Paul Tisdale. If Incy did any good he would jump to a bigger club without a second thought also. We need a stayer to provide a long term future for the club. We want a passionate and loyal manager who is prepared to be in it for the long haul. Although you can't argue that Steve Coppell is a very good candidate, he is far too boring and he let's the pressure get to him too easilly. I am not sure he has ever been cut out to do the job. He would make a great coach if he wasn't the man making the ultimate decisions. We don't need anyone who would walk as soon as the chips were down.

season ticket holder says...
10:47am Mon 8 Jun 09

Another non-story from the Echo just to fill up a page.They just trawl the sports pages of the daily papers and come up with someone that they think is an eye catching name.They obviously missed the Guardian because it mentioned Alan Shearer.Now that could have sold more Echos if they had put his name on the back page.

eastleigh-ian says...
10:50am Mon 8 Jun 09

please mat not ince. if hes intrested gordon s would be perfect. i cant see why paul tisdale would what to jumpship now hes doing well enough were he is .

normsted says...
10:56am Mon 8 Jun 09

I am prepared to sit back and wait,Is the club finacially secure now then ?,as everyone seems to assume so,and the witch hunt against wotte has started ,fueled by the echo.They just dont get it do they.
As for slagging the paper off,I critisise the pure speculation that fills every edition,perhaps its to much to expect facts ,perhaps there arent any,perhaps pinnacle are being Very careful what they feed them-cant blame them.
The official saints site is like opening a book with no pages in it-that doesnt help! This site is saints fans only way of keeping the interest going,so I suppose in a twisted way it works.

Stafford Saint says...
11:11am Mon 8 Jun 09

season ticket holder wrote:
Another non-story from the Echo just to fill up a page.They just trawl the sports pages of the daily papers and come up with someone that they think is an eye catching name.They obviously missed the Guardian because it mentioned Alan Shearer.Now that could have sold more Echos if they had put his name on the back page.
Not really ...
It is interesting to read about the possible replacements.
Further proof of invalidity of the non-story claim is that several people have used this story to post their opinions (other than the 2 anti Echo posts). Take away this story and you take away these posts.
Whilst it is true that there are other forums that Saints fans can contribute to, you cannot deny that people do like to read their local paper and contribute to its forums too. Not least yourself

TurnerChannonMcCalliogStokes says...
11:16am Mon 8 Jun 09

"If Incy did any good he would jump to a bigger club without a second thought."

Why are people so afraid of this happening?

"We need a stayer to provide a long term future for the club. We want a passionate and loyal manager who is prepared to be in it for the long haul."

If it's a choice between someone who stays 1 year but gets us promoted and someone who stays 4 years and doesn't, I know who I'd choose. If Ince came in and was successful enough for a Prem club to come in for him, at least that means he'd be leaving us in a stronger position than when he joined. Is that so objectionable?

SomersetSaint says...
11:21am Mon 8 Jun 09

No Director of Football needed, surely this will be effectively be the role of Le Tiss?

SaintPaul says...
11:30am Mon 8 Jun 09

Paul Tisdale of Exeter City was approached by Saints weeks ago, it looks like this is going to be a done deal!

crusti says...
11:52am Mon 8 Jun 09

with money being tight, I'd stick to WOTTE we got already

He knows the players, he inherited a demoralised team and make them play some nice football.
Would we really have gotten relagated if MW had managed us all season - i think not

Theres going to be plenty of changes at SMS, just like we've had over the last ten seasons, do we really need to keep repeating this attitude of diposable managers?

worried of e sussex says...
11:53am Mon 8 Jun 09

not recomending him but i wonder if alan shearer has called his old mate MLT as the buzz is he is not going to get the newcastle job.

Bitterne Park Tim says...
11:53am Mon 8 Jun 09

This is a pretty disrespectfull story! I mean what is the point!

I wonder how the author would feel about his replacement being discussed before he has lost his job!

Stop filling the paper with pointless speculation... Try to deal in fact... maybe find out who the hell is buying the club? Or would that involve some investigation and journalism!!!!!!

geordie saint says...
11:54am Mon 8 Jun 09

SaintPaul wrote:
Paul Tisdale of Exeter City was approached by Saints weeks ago, it looks like this is going to be a done deal!
How do you know this?

stoopid says...
12:02pm Mon 8 Jun 09

eastleigh-ian wrote:
please mat not ince. if hes intrested gordon s would be perfect. i cant see why paul tisdale would what to jumpship now hes doing well enough were he is .
Paul may want to jump ship if believes there is a realistic chance the 5yr plan to get back to the top flight is a go'er. With respect to Exeter they're not going to have the same ambitions.
Honestly I don't know a lot about Tisdale as a manager but on the surface he looks good.

The_Shotster says...
12:19pm Mon 8 Jun 09

"If it's a choice between someone who stays 1 year but gets us promoted and someone who stays 4 years and doesn't, I know who I'd choose. If Ince came in and was successful enough for a Prem club to come in for him, at least that means he'd be leaving us in a stronger position than when he joined. Is that so objectionable?"

I will support whoever the new board appoint and wouldn't object as I am not one of the people who is qualified to make the decision. My opinion is that stability over the long term is better than what we have had before. We could do without building a successful team and management set-up, only for it to be broken up as soon as a 'bigger' club comes knocking. You can't stop people leaving it seems but it is better to try for the long term in my view.

raider3579 says...
12:27pm Mon 8 Jun 09

I know this is the wrong thread,but can someone tell me when the league one fixtures are announced.Don't the league require that the club is under new ownership,otherwise the entire fixture list would have to be revamped if we have not found a new owner.And does the league deadline fit in with the on-going negotiations with Pinnacle.

mark.wareham says...
12:35pm Mon 8 Jun 09

wot, no keegan?

season ticket holder says...
12:35pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Stafford Saint wrote:
season ticket holder wrote: Another non-story from the Echo just to fill up a page.They just trawl the sports pages of the daily papers and come up with someone that they think is an eye catching name.They obviously missed the Guardian because it mentioned Alan Shearer.Now that could have sold more Echos if they had put his name on the back page.
Not really ... It is interesting to read about the possible replacements. Further proof of invalidity of the non-story claim is that several people have used this story to post their opinions (other than the 2 anti Echo posts). Take away this story and you take away these posts. Whilst it is true that there are other forums that Saints fans can contribute to, you cannot deny that people do like to read their local paper and contribute to its forums too. Not least yourself
all I am saying is that the Echo is just quoting from other papers or listing names of managers without a job. Anyone of us could of done this. They need to do some real journalism and find out what is going on with the takeover. Surely someone from the Echo should be at St Mary,s trying to get an update from Mark Fry.

St.Yorkie says...
12:39pm Mon 8 Jun 09

It seems strange to me that people on here have so much to say about a new manager. Personally as long as he understands the game, gets the players respects and entertains he could be an alien as far as I'm concerned. Links to players and managers past leaves me cold. I'd rather we just waited to see what the new team decide - after all it's their money, their invstment and their heads on the block.
To be quite honest I think many of the fans could pick a team - but getting them motivated is another challenge beyond most fans.
Perhaps we should elect knkyboots & geordie - they seem to have the right idea!

L of a Saint says...
12:40pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Bring back Sturrock, he was doing alright in his short time. And anyone who gets up Lowes nose is alright by me.

Mitch08 says...
12:55pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Shearer could perhaps be a realistic target, I can't see him staying at Newcastle, they are the team that could ruin his career, he needs experience, and he's certainly got links to Saints, and i'm sure he'd be loyal to us. Another thing, he'd certainly attract good players, he's a well known name, so I think he's worth a shout, should he leave Newcastle...

Yeovil Saint says...
1:01pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Stick with Wotte. He did ok after he took over and if he'd been in charge all season, I don't think we'd be in our current position (even with the 10 point penalty).
We've all been calling for stability over the past few years, MLT included, so why change now just because we might be under new ownership?

Mitch08 says...
1:04pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Why stick with a cheap manager, who in all honesty didn't do that great, when you can afford someone much better?

SaintPaul says...
1:33pm Mon 8 Jun 09

geordie saint wrote:
SaintPaul wrote: Paul Tisdale of Exeter City was approached by Saints weeks ago, it looks like this is going to be a done deal!
How do you know this?
I live in Exeter and have it from a reliable source close to Paul Tisdale that he has been approached by Saints.

TurnerChannonMcCalliogStokes says...
1:42pm Mon 8 Jun 09

"We could do without building a successful team and management set-up, only for it to be broken up as soon as a 'bigger' club comes knocking."

Fair point but the more successful a manager is, the more likely it is that other clubs will try to poach him. That's just life. After all, WGS was only here two and a half years.

I feel we'd have a good chance of hanging on to Ince because, as far as Prem clubs are concerned, he has to prove himself all over again. He might have to get a club promoted to the Prem in order to do that, so why shouldn't that club be Saints?

jezza says...
1:55pm Mon 8 Jun 09

I would like to see us keep Wotte, but if we must discuss possible replacements then how about Gus Poyet?

Together with Dennis Wise, he performed miracles at Swindon and transformed Leeds into winning 15 on the bounce when they started on minus points. Then, when he went to Spurs, Leeds went to pieces under just Wise. That makes me think he was the driving force in the pairing, and he could be just what we need (particularly as he has already now got the "inevitable return to Spurs" (a la GH) out of his system.

Just another option.

CliffordNelson says...
2:15pm Mon 8 Jun 09

SomersetSaint wrote:
No Director of Football needed, surely this will be effectively be the role of Le Tiss?
Probably as the chair of the football board, but the new owners must divide the owner and his representatives from the footballing decisions.

For that you want a structure that prevents meddling from those who don't understand the game.

And what about Lawrie Mac? Surely there must be a role, even if only a symbolic one for our greatest ever manager!

ash_ says...
2:25pm Mon 8 Jun 09

It can only be Strachan or Hoddle in my opinion.

Both have the respect and experience to gather pace in our push for double promotion and then keep us there. The other names might be good for a season but then they will crumble under the pressure (e.g. Ince).

Having said that I think I would consider a Poyet/Wise or Shearer/Dowie combo. I have a feeling both pairs have the grit required in these lower leagues. Although I'd assume Shearer would openly admit to using us as a stepping stone.

Costa Baz says...
2:49pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Unlike some, I don't have a problem with the Echo posting speculative comments, for people to read and respond to, should they wish to do so.

If you don't like them, ignore them, simple as that.

With regards to who I'd want as manager, I don't know, although I did post Eddie Howe's name on another thread on Saturday.

The fact that Wotte has been looking at players abroad, as potential signings for Div 1, is a massive issue for me.

I think we need players that already understand what is required at this level, not players that will have to learn what it is about on day 1 of the season.

ben dover says...
3:02pm Mon 8 Jun 09

holloway would have been perfect but it.s too late now.paul trollope or kevin bond.

normsted says...
3:35pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Sorry but I really do have an issue with the echo printing "pure speculation" doesnt this undermine the stability that people on here keep shouting/craving for ? Where do you draw the line ? If we get the buy out sorted,will they then stir it up again ? shame they didnt have the ba**s to do it when things were going t***S up.Sorry but I feel the local rag should SUPPORT the local team.They are in a reasonably powerful position and shouldnt abuse it.Yes, one point above to ignore the headlines and have a natter on here is probably the way to go.

normsted says...
3:35pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Sorry but I really do have an issue with the echo printing "pure speculation" doesnt this undermine the stability that people on here keep shouting/craving for ? Where do you draw the line ? If we get the buy out sorted,will they then stir it up again ? shame they didnt have the ba**s to do it when things were going t***S up.Sorry but I feel the local rag should SUPPORT the local team.They are in a reasonably powerful position and shouldnt abuse it.Yes, one point above to ignore the headlines and have a natter on here is probably the way to go.

Captain Swing says...
4:34pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Hercules Grytpype-Thynne wrote:
I am thinking of buying the Echo and it is obvious that I will need a new sports editor. I need someone who is really up to the job and able to take the paper forward. Any ideas as to who it should be other than the current inept incumbents?
You are right Mr Goone, but, frankly, the Echo needs radical changes from the top down. Ian Murray lost the plot ages ago; it was one thing to hire Carter as a Sports editor, but it's evident, even to the paper's most doltish readers, that the bloke isn't up to the job and should have been fired several years ago. He can't write, knows nothing about football and even less about the Saints.
As for Leitch, if he had half a brain it would surprise everybody. I'd not accept an x-ray as proof either.
There are probably plenty of editors who would fancy the Echo job, but I doubt Gannett would want to afford them, given the Echo's donward spiral in sales since Murray took charge.
As for spots editor, Patrick Barclay is one of the few soccer hacks who actually knows what he's talking about, but again, it's the money: can Gannett match the Times?

robhythe says...
5:06pm Mon 8 Jun 09

No one has mentioned Alan pardue!!! Although i think we should stick with Wotte!

saint Compo says...
5:29pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Gordon Brown may be available soon. He has similar characteristics to the great Alex Ferguson - a leading exponent of throwing things (whether teacups or mobile phones) and administering the hairdryer treatment when upset.

His cabinet reshuffles suggest familiarity with the concept of player rotation and his practice of bringing in has-beens from the House of Lords can be equally well applied to signing experienced veterans who have been put out to grass by the bigger clubs.

He would not demand a large salary providing he's given a generous expenses allowance.

Finally, there would be no pension cost to the club because he doesn't believe in pensions, having succeeded in destroying them over the last decade or so.

A no-brainer really.

COYR


Ludacris says...
6:21pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Has to be Dennis Wise for.. me he was gutted not to be offered the job before and i wouldn't mind betting we would be in a better place now with old wobbly eyes at the helm...failing that i'll accept.. um.. in no particular order...dixon and speedie..ali diah..ulrich van gobbel...david hirst and chris woods..peter reid..barry venison and the other one from newcastle who lasted about 8 games..with the hair.. oh whats his name.. old guy..blonde hair..plays football...

Ludacris says...
6:37pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Beresford!!

lemsip says...
6:49pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Wheres Ian Branfoot now a days? he would get my vote.....(joke so dont start on me )

Optimist says...
7:31pm Mon 8 Jun 09

If we get anyone new make sure they are Saints through and through, someone who can take us higher but will stay when offered some extra lucre.
Tisdale fits that bill nicely, what is Micky Adams doing now?

Optimist says...
7:33pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Micky took the job at Port vale a couple of days ago.

matty07uk says...
7:57pm Mon 8 Jun 09

raider3579 wrote:
I know this is the wrong thread,but can someone tell me when the league one fixtures are announced.Don't the league require that the club is under new ownership,otherwise the entire fixture list would have to be revamped if we have not found a new owner.And does the league deadline fit in with the on-going negotiations with Pinnacle.
Raider dont know if anyone replied but 17 June is date when fixtures are published. Hopefully the deal will have been sorted by then!!

cleversaint says...
8:03pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Paul Ince....end of!

cleversaint says...
8:03pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Paul Ince....end of!

Tirau Dan (NZL) says...
8:24pm Mon 8 Jun 09

Dear Editor
If your staff can;t investigate real stories have your web designer install open topic threads so the readers can write their own..
Most Saints fans are only on your site for amusement as your young journos really aren't working for a living.

security words... cash-flat...hmmmm really

jedisaint says...
8:42pm Mon 8 Jun 09

as nice as mw is and good he may be,hopefully soon we will be in a position to buy a much needed experienced and successful manager.stachan,yes please but why would he?? No thanks to Ince. coppel may be sound,super al is a bit inexperienced but i wouldnt grumble i think he could ad a lot.

wehatepompey says...
1:06am Tue 9 Jun 09

Optimist wrote:
If we get anyone new make sure they are Saints through and through, someone who can take us higher but will stay when offered some extra lucre. Tisdale fits that bill nicely, what is Micky Adams doing now?
MICKEY ADAMAS??????????????
????????????????what is it with all these so called saints fans wanting micky adams?are u on crack?ask any coventry or brighton fan what they think of adams?what has he acheieved above league 2?have some ambition sad c###ts

wehatepompey says...
1:14am Tue 9 Jun 09

also if paul tisdale was to come to saints wouldnt that mean he has been offered some "lucre" to leave exeter?mmmmm

BertCatt says...
5:00am Tue 9 Jun 09

If he has passed his badges, which by now he should've done. How about Sir Clive Woodward. He knows how to organise a team, win things. Did such a good job last time he was with us. Also could always ask R/L for advice.

Security word vast-wish!

Ps only joking!

PokerSaint says...
7:38am Tue 9 Jun 09

dowie-, he would be good choice 4 me

security word... know-star

PokerSaint says...
7:38am Tue 9 Jun 09

dowie-, he would be good choice 4 me

security word... know-star

Optimist says...
7:49am Tue 9 Jun 09

wehatepompey wrote:
also if paul tisdale was to come to saints wouldnt that mean he has been offered some "lucre" to leave exeter?mmmmm
Point taken, at least he would care a little more about the club, still "so called Saints fans?" you really are quite rude. I will keep going to watch my team as long as I have the cash to.

luke.philip94 says...
11:29pm Tue 9 Jun 09

realistically, Gordon S would be brilliant, but if you had just managed celtic, would you really want to come to saints in league 1? i would like to see Steve Coppell but i surely doubt that one too . i just hope the pinnacle deal goes through and we have a team next season .


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