Southampton manager Alan Pardew told league form must improve

Cortese puts Pardew under pressure

Saints executive chairman Nicola Cortese

Saints manager Alan Pardew

First published in Saints News

SAINTS chairman Nicola Cortese has told manager Alan Pardew the club's league form must improve.

Cortese publicly put pressure on the Saints boss this morning on Radio Solent by stating he is not satisfied with the team's results in League One.

After Saturday's 1-1 draw at Exeter, Saints are now 15 points short of the playoffs, which Cortese described as the "top priority", with just 18 games left in their season.

In a statement issued through a local radio station, the St Mary's chief said that, although a trip to Wembley would be great, that is not what he is most concerned about.

Cortese said owner Markus Liebherr had made a significant investment - with nearly £2m thought to have been spent on players in January alone - and the reason for that was so Saints would make the playoffs.

Cortese added that recent league results have "not been satisfactory against that objective".

When asked for his response Pardew was fairly muted.

“They’re his opinion and I can’t change that,” he said.

“If he feels they’re fair then they’re fair.

“We’re just trying to have a really successful season the best way we can,” he added.

When asked whether the timing was appropriate he commented: “I’m not questioning anything.

“It’s his prerogative.

“I’m just the manager of the football team and I’m trying to do the best job I can.

“There’s always pressure on a manager.”

Saints currently face a massive week, with tomorrow's Johnstone's Paint Trophy area final second leg against MK Dons, followed by Saturdays FA Cup fifth round clash at home to Pompey.

Their next league match is away to leaders Norwich on Saturday, February 20.

And Cortese heaped extra pressure on Pardew ahead of that fixture, by stating he is "looking forward to the team getting back to winning ways" at Carrow Road.

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8:23am Mon 8 Feb 10

White and red till dead says...

The dreaded vote of confidence. AP has been making a few excses of late - the 2M has been spent on players who have not been convincing. Our second string cup team were getting the results that count.
The dreaded vote of confidence. AP has been making a few excses of late - the 2M has been spent on players who have not been convincing. Our second string cup team were getting the results that count. White and red till dead
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8:38am Mon 8 Feb 10

rednwhite1 says...

I agree with Cortese with his statement , Leibherr has done his part by allowing pardew to bring in new players with his own money. The new players we now have we should be at least challenging for the play-offs and grinding out results. Exeter on sat was a 2pts dropped and i listened to the game on solent and only managed a draw, But with the players we now have i expected a win. Puncheon , Lambert , Waigo, Lallana , Fonte , Seaborne , Antonio , Holmes , James and the list goes on so yeah sorry pardew we need and expect wins from these games , thats the whole point in bringing in these players so we are getting the wins , not hanging on for draws with the sqaud we have, This week is a huge week for every one with this club , and i will be there for both games like many others so make sure the players are up for these games like us the supporters are.
I agree with Cortese with his statement , Leibherr has done his part by allowing pardew to bring in new players with his own money. The new players we now have we should be at least challenging for the play-offs and grinding out results. Exeter on sat was a 2pts dropped and i listened to the game on solent and only managed a draw, But with the players we now have i expected a win. Puncheon , Lambert , Waigo, Lallana , Fonte , Seaborne , Antonio , Holmes , James and the list goes on so yeah sorry pardew we need and expect wins from these games , thats the whole point in bringing in these players so we are getting the wins , not hanging on for draws with the sqaud we have, This week is a huge week for every one with this club , and i will be there for both games like many others so make sure the players are up for these games like us the supporters are. rednwhite1
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8:39am Mon 8 Feb 10

AndyAndrews says...

Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen.
Next season it's a must.
Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen. Next season it's a must. AndyAndrews
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8:40am Mon 8 Feb 10

Pinner_Saint says...

Interesting to see that there are slightly conflicting objectives. Pardew was quoted in the excellent Guardian article at the weekend say: "There's no reason why I can't produce a team next year that can go straight into the Championship and cause a real lot of damage and maybe even go through the Championship."

I agree with Cortese about the priority of getting out of league 1. A trip to Wembley would be great but in the scheme of things promotion is far more important. Having witnessed Saints at Brentford and Exeter I think the manager has to take the brunt of the blame due to over cautious tactics. We should be more attaching away from home considering the squad we have.
Interesting to see that there are slightly conflicting objectives. Pardew was quoted in the excellent Guardian article at the weekend say: "There's no reason why I can't produce a team next year that can go straight into the Championship and cause a real lot of damage and maybe even go through the Championship." I agree with Cortese about the priority of getting out of league 1. A trip to Wembley would be great but in the scheme of things promotion is far more important. Having witnessed Saints at Brentford and Exeter I think the manager has to take the brunt of the blame due to over cautious tactics. We should be more attaching away from home considering the squad we have. Pinner_Saint
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8:47am Mon 8 Feb 10

saint188 says...

I agree with this. You tell me why the hell we are starting 4,5,1 with the squd we have. In my opion on league games we should be starting 4,4,2 regardless of the opposition. By going 4,5,1 we are telling teams tht we are scared of them. My starting line up with injurys at the moment for league games would be:
Bart
Harding
Seabourne
Jaidi
James
Waigo
LLana
Puncheon
Antonio
lambert
Barnard
This is a team full of creativity and attack minded.
Again if injurys allow then murty, connelly back in squad.
I am fed up with cheering my guts out to her a player say we ran out of ideas, its not ideas its poor team selection where to many midfielders spoil the broth.
Any way two great games this week to get back to wining ways so,
COYR
I agree with this. You tell me why the hell we are starting 4,5,1 with the squd we have. In my opion on league games we should be starting 4,4,2 regardless of the opposition. By going 4,5,1 we are telling teams tht we are scared of them. My starting line up with injurys at the moment for league games would be: Bart Harding Seabourne Jaidi James Waigo LLana Puncheon Antonio lambert Barnard This is a team full of creativity and attack minded. Again if injurys allow then murty, connelly back in squad. I am fed up with cheering my guts out to her a player say we ran out of ideas, its not ideas its poor team selection where to many midfielders spoil the broth. Any way two great games this week to get back to wining ways so, COYR saint188
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8:47am Mon 8 Feb 10

Crowds says...

'looking forward to the team getting back to winning ways" at Carrow Road.'' LOL

Hes right though, hes been given the full backing and he needs to start delivering...
'looking forward to the team getting back to winning ways" at Carrow Road.'' LOL Hes right though, hes been given the full backing and he needs to start delivering... Crowds
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8:48am Mon 8 Feb 10

west wales saint says...

AndyAndrews wrote:
Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen. Next season it's a must.
Totally agree, back in the summer we all would have taken the position we are now in.Looking forward to this week ensuring a trip to wembley and a bye to the 6th round
[quote][p][bold]AndyAndrews[/bold] wrote: Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen. Next season it's a must.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, back in the summer we all would have taken the position we are now in.Looking forward to this week ensuring a trip to wembley and a bye to the 6th round west wales saint
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8:50am Mon 8 Feb 10

Optimist says...

Pressure is good, change is good; change works best when done gradually, and pressure works best when done suddenly.
AP has been backed to the hilt up until now, time for everyone to stand up and be counted in a VERY monumental week for us. Will we splutter or will we ignite?

COYS!
Pressure is good, change is good; change works best when done gradually, and pressure works best when done suddenly. AP has been backed to the hilt up until now, time for everyone to stand up and be counted in a VERY monumental week for us. Will we splutter or will we ignite? COYS! Optimist
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8:51am Mon 8 Feb 10

OSPREYSAINT says...

Most of this is an obvious statement, as always, once the manager has made his choice, it is up to the players once they are on the pitch, in theory they are good enough, but they do have to play as a team and carry out the strategy, We have a skipper who barely knows the team, several players that have not played together, it all takes time. Sadly this year time is running out as far as the Play-offs are concerned.
Most of this is an obvious statement, as always, once the manager has made his choice, it is up to the players once they are on the pitch, in theory they are good enough, but they do have to play as a team and carry out the strategy, We have a skipper who barely knows the team, several players that have not played together, it all takes time. Sadly this year time is running out as far as the Play-offs are concerned. OSPREYSAINT
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8:54am Mon 8 Feb 10

cryoman1965 says...

I and others criticised AP on Saturday because of our expectations and the results over the past weeks. Were we so wrong. Obviously not.
COYR
I and others criticised AP on Saturday because of our expectations and the results over the past weeks. Were we so wrong. Obviously not. COYR cryoman1965
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8:56am Mon 8 Feb 10

Common says...

The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again.
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You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail.
The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again. . You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail. Common
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8:59am Mon 8 Feb 10

spratt says...

Thank goodness for this straight talking from Cortese which was indicated in the Guardian article on Sunday. Perhaps all those posters who were so quick to stamp on anyone who had similar thoughts to the Chairman and brand them as "moaners" will step into the real world. It is not a matter of seeking APs head but the plain truth is the performance to date has not been satisfactory and it should have been obvious to us all that the new owners would not be happy. Who would? The opinions of the fans, one way or the other, matters little against what is in the minds of the owners and it is plain which way they are thinking.
Thank goodness for this straight talking from Cortese which was indicated in the Guardian article on Sunday. Perhaps all those posters who were so quick to stamp on anyone who had similar thoughts to the Chairman and brand them as "moaners" will step into the real world. It is not a matter of seeking APs head but the plain truth is the performance to date has not been satisfactory and it should have been obvious to us all that the new owners would not be happy. Who would? The opinions of the fans, one way or the other, matters little against what is in the minds of the owners and it is plain which way they are thinking. spratt
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9:01am Mon 8 Feb 10

St.Yorkie says...

Nice pressure to be under though - on the one side the team is very capable of producing the results, but on the other sloppy defending costs us points.
Pardew is in a no win situation as he has built up expectations and convinced the management to spend in the window. We need time for the new boys to gel - but we don't have it. I just hope Cortese doesn't pull the plug on Pardew's plans at the end of the season - after all from the depths of despair, we are actually moving up!
Nice pressure to be under though - on the one side the team is very capable of producing the results, but on the other sloppy defending costs us points. Pardew is in a no win situation as he has built up expectations and convinced the management to spend in the window. We need time for the new boys to gel - but we don't have it. I just hope Cortese doesn't pull the plug on Pardew's plans at the end of the season - after all from the depths of despair, we are actually moving up! St.Yorkie
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9:15am Mon 8 Feb 10

AllSaintsDave says...

We all get pressure in our jobs, we need it to perform. I'm sure that this is no different from the pep talks that Pardew has to give to his players from time to time.

I'm sure that no-one wants AP so succeed more than Cortese and Markus, as he is their man. Hopefully they will have done their homework on the Saints and realise that consistency at a managerial level (or lack of) has got to be one of the single biggest reasons that we are where we are.

From the brink of extinction to mid-table from -10 is not bad. It's not brilliant either and the fact that our owners are striving for brilliance is very, very encouraging.
We all get pressure in our jobs, we need it to perform. I'm sure that this is no different from the pep talks that Pardew has to give to his players from time to time. I'm sure that no-one wants AP so succeed more than Cortese and Markus, as he is their man. Hopefully they will have done their homework on the Saints and realise that consistency at a managerial level (or lack of) has got to be one of the single biggest reasons that we are where we are. From the brink of extinction to mid-table from -10 is not bad. It's not brilliant either and the fact that our owners are striving for brilliance is very, very encouraging. AllSaintsDave
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9:19am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint H says...

Common wrote:
The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again. . You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail.
I didn't hear the interview but the echo didn't respond last week to my post and kiss and make up with the club. This article just provides more ammo for the moaners and an attempt to create conflict.
As you know I am pro AP but let's give the guy a chance, if we haven't achieved promotion by next season the yes it would time for a re-think. Chopping & changing the manager does not work.......eh QPR!
[quote][p][bold]Common[/bold] wrote: The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again. . You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail.[/p][/quote]I didn't hear the interview but the echo didn't respond last week to my post and kiss and make up with the club. This article just provides more ammo for the moaners and an attempt to create conflict. As you know I am pro AP but let's give the guy a chance, if we haven't achieved promotion by next season the yes it would time for a re-think. Chopping & changing the manager does not work.......eh QPR! Saint H
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9:25am Mon 8 Feb 10

Glen Wiffen says...

I thought this might happen sooner or later. I feel that Pards is a good choice to get us out of this division and I can see his theory on liking cup runs to boost confidence. I was not worried about the JPS trophy at the start of the season and would have been happy to get knocked out of it by a far inferior team as long as we put our thoughts towards winning league games. However now we are almost knocking on the door I want to go and support my team at Wembley. The long running FA Cup run has been a suprise and I am proud that we have advanced further than the likes of Liverpool and Manchester Utd and hopefully through to the 6th round on Saturday.(I have my ticket). But my concern is on the league and I feel that we have had our minds taken off our league form by our cup runs, a cup we have a chance of winning and one we don't even if we get past our neighbours. The main priority should be getting out of this league and I feel that even though we have strengthened the team we are not seeing the sort of winning form and lucky streak we are used to probably because we have brought in so many new faces to soon who are not so used to winning. I would rather us go up through the play offs than win the JPS cup. Had we concentrated on the league more we would probably be 5pts off the play-offs rather than 15 pts. With all the atacking players we have we should not be in this situation and we should be attacking teams from the kickoff like we were earlier in the season.
I thought this might happen sooner or later. I feel that Pards is a good choice to get us out of this division and I can see his theory on liking cup runs to boost confidence. I was not worried about the JPS trophy at the start of the season and would have been happy to get knocked out of it by a far inferior team as long as we put our thoughts towards winning league games. However now we are almost knocking on the door I want to go and support my team at Wembley. The long running FA Cup run has been a suprise and I am proud that we have advanced further than the likes of Liverpool and Manchester Utd and hopefully through to the 6th round on Saturday.(I have my ticket). But my concern is on the league and I feel that we have had our minds taken off our league form by our cup runs, a cup we have a chance of winning and one we don't even if we get past our neighbours. The main priority should be getting out of this league and I feel that even though we have strengthened the team we are not seeing the sort of winning form and lucky streak we are used to probably because we have brought in so many new faces to soon who are not so used to winning. I would rather us go up through the play offs than win the JPS cup. Had we concentrated on the league more we would probably be 5pts off the play-offs rather than 15 pts. With all the atacking players we have we should not be in this situation and we should be attacking teams from the kickoff like we were earlier in the season. Glen Wiffen
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9:28am Mon 8 Feb 10

Mick99 says...

Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager.
Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability.
Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager. Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability. Mick99
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9:30am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.
Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE. PARDEW OUT!
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9:35am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better.

Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again.

I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em.

Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement.
Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means.

Come on You Saints.
We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better. Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again. I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em. Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement. Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means. Come on You Saints. Tirau Dan
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9:38am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

Mick99 wrote:
Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager.
Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability.
No.......this is what we need.i expected saints to be top 6 by now.we have had the chances.how many 1-0 leads have we thrown away?no other clubs fans would accept this so why should we?we should be top 6,cortese knows this.you lot on here should of listened to me.cortese knows what im thinking.when pardew goes i WILL accept apologies from you all.
[quote][p][bold]Mick99[/bold] wrote: Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager. Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability.[/p][/quote]No.......this is what we need.i expected saints to be top 6 by now.we have had the chances.how many 1-0 leads have we thrown away?no other clubs fans would accept this so why should we?we should be top 6,cortese knows this.you lot on here should of listened to me.cortese knows what im thinking.when pardew goes i WILL accept apologies from you all. PARDEW OUT!
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9:42am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better.

Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again.

I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em.

Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement.
Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means.

Come on You Saints.
what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better. Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again. I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em. Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement. Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means. Come on You Saints.[/p][/quote]what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting. PARDEW OUT!
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9:42am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better.

Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again.

I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em.

Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement.
Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means.

Come on You Saints.
what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better. Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again. I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em. Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement. Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means. Come on You Saints.[/p][/quote]what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting. PARDEW OUT!
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9:50am Mon 8 Feb 10

puppy saint says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.
did someone say pie?
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.[/p][/quote]did someone say pie? puppy saint
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9:51am Mon 8 Feb 10

BIg-Al says...

I had a strange feeling that this would happen and I posted on here last week about the same thing. This was a "5-year-plan" to get back to the Premiership with year-1 being to stablise the foundations of this rocky old club. AP has done this well BUT, the pressure was on just the very moment he announced that he wanted to get to the play-offs. I agree that the money he has spent in January has just increased the pressure but we don't really want the ECHO publishing this crap and making things worse. We WILL be going to Wembley thsi season (after tonights game) and the revenue earned from this, along with the revenue earned from next Saturday will go a long way to repaying some of the money spent in the transfer window. We now have a great squad of players and have the potential to go all the way to Wembley again in the play-off final, but PLEASE Mr. Cortese - no pressure eh?
I had a strange feeling that this would happen and I posted on here last week about the same thing. This was a "5-year-plan" to get back to the Premiership with year-1 being to stablise the foundations of this rocky old club. AP has done this well BUT, the pressure was on just the very moment he announced that he wanted to get to the play-offs. I agree that the money he has spent in January has just increased the pressure but we don't really want the ECHO publishing this crap and making things worse. We WILL be going to Wembley thsi season (after tonights game) and the revenue earned from this, along with the revenue earned from next Saturday will go a long way to repaying some of the money spent in the transfer window. We now have a great squad of players and have the potential to go all the way to Wembley again in the play-off final, but PLEASE Mr. Cortese - no pressure eh? BIg-Al
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9:51am Mon 8 Feb 10

Mick99 says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Mick99 wrote: Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager. Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability.
No.......this is what we need.i expected saints to be top 6 by now.we have had the chances.how many 1-0 leads have we thrown away?no other clubs fans would accept this so why should we?we should be top 6,cortese knows this.you lot on here should of listened to me.cortese knows what im thinking.when pardew goes i WILL accept apologies from you all.
If Pardew does get the boot this season then you won't be getting any apologies from me. How much experience does Cortese have in the world of football? Did he hand-pick Lambert, Hammond, Collony? Um, no.
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mick99[/bold] wrote: Good work Cortese, ahead of the biggest two weeks of the season you have managed to totally undermine the manager. Now after every draw/loss there are going to be questions about AP's future at the club, just what Saints need - more instability.[/p][/quote]No.......this is what we need.i expected saints to be top 6 by now.we have had the chances.how many 1-0 leads have we thrown away?no other clubs fans would accept this so why should we?we should be top 6,cortese knows this.you lot on here should of listened to me.cortese knows what im thinking.when pardew goes i WILL accept apologies from you all.[/p][/quote]If Pardew does get the boot this season then you won't be getting any apologies from me. How much experience does Cortese have in the world of football? Did he hand-pick Lambert, Hammond, Collony? Um, no. Mick99
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9:52am Mon 8 Feb 10

miltonarchers says...

I wasn't convinced AP was the right appointment. Billy Davies was in the frame and would have been my choice, look at how he has transformed Forest without spending £££££s

However, although I agree with Cortese I dont think putting his thoughts into the public domain is constructive. Stability is vital so we have to stick with AP. I think the failure to get into the playoffs will have a major impact on the squad with some not prepared to play another season in this div. When Lambert signed he gave his reason as wanting to play at a higher level, will he want another season in Div 1?????
I wasn't convinced AP was the right appointment. Billy Davies was in the frame and would have been my choice, look at how he has transformed Forest without spending £££££s However, although I agree with Cortese I dont think putting his thoughts into the public domain is constructive. Stability is vital so we have to stick with AP. I think the failure to get into the playoffs will have a major impact on the squad with some not prepared to play another season in this div. When Lambert signed he gave his reason as wanting to play at a higher level, will he want another season in Div 1????? miltonarchers
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9:52am Mon 8 Feb 10

pierremoor says...

What happened to the 5 year plan? Rome wasn't built in a day. 10 points deduction plus the fact that we hardly hit the ground running due to the club's future only being settled a couple of weeks before the season started, meant that the play offs were only a distant dream. People have such short memories. A fair bit of Cup excitement and a mid-table position would be a good first season. Money does not buy instant success; ask that lot down the road.
What happened to the 5 year plan? Rome wasn't built in a day. 10 points deduction plus the fact that we hardly hit the ground running due to the club's future only being settled a couple of weeks before the season started, meant that the play offs were only a distant dream. People have such short memories. A fair bit of Cup excitement and a mid-table position would be a good first season. Money does not buy instant success; ask that lot down the road. pierremoor
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9:53am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

I'd like to see the 'quote' the author of this article has got its 'facts' from. I'm not saying that Nicola should not put pressure on the team (management down), but I doubt he would have come out and openly ripped into Alan Pardew, which is what this article infers.
There's no animosity between Saints and the Echo at the moment is there...
If it turns out that there is mischief making going on, than I for one will be shouting for the Echo out, perhaps the Saints web site should answer this question.
We obviously need to do better, and the whole team needs to be pulling in the right direction,
COYR's Keep Marching!!!
I'd like to see the 'quote' the author of this article has got its 'facts' from. I'm not saying that Nicola should not put pressure on the team (management down), but I doubt he would have come out and openly ripped into Alan Pardew, which is what this article infers. There's no animosity between Saints and the Echo at the moment is there... If it turns out that there is mischief making going on, than I for one will be shouting for the Echo out, perhaps the Saints web site should answer this question. We obviously need to do better, and the whole team needs to be pulling in the right direction, COYR's Keep Marching!!! Saint Andrew Scotland
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10:02am Mon 8 Feb 10

E-M27 says...

saint188 wrote:
I agree with this. You tell me why the hell we are starting 4,5,1 with the squd we have. In my opion on league games we should be starting 4,4,2 regardless of the opposition. By going 4,5,1 we are telling teams tht we are scared of them. My starting line up with injurys at the moment for league games would be: Bart Harding Seabourne Jaidi James Waigo LLana Puncheon Antonio lambert Barnard This is a team full of creativity and attack minded. Again if injurys allow then murty, connelly back in squad. I am fed up with cheering my guts out to her a player say we ran out of ideas, its not ideas its poor team selection where to many midfielders spoil the broth. Any way two great games this week to get back to wining ways so, COYR
Swap Seabourne with Fonte and get Conelly on for last half hour in place of Lambert or Barnard and it should be the side we need to push on
I was there at Exeter and they were awful and the changes made by AP were questionable
KD is not commanding his area or distributing the ball well at all
[quote][p][bold]saint188[/bold] wrote: I agree with this. You tell me why the hell we are starting 4,5,1 with the squd we have. In my opion on league games we should be starting 4,4,2 regardless of the opposition. By going 4,5,1 we are telling teams tht we are scared of them. My starting line up with injurys at the moment for league games would be: Bart Harding Seabourne Jaidi James Waigo LLana Puncheon Antonio lambert Barnard This is a team full of creativity and attack minded. Again if injurys allow then murty, connelly back in squad. I am fed up with cheering my guts out to her a player say we ran out of ideas, its not ideas its poor team selection where to many midfielders spoil the broth. Any way two great games this week to get back to wining ways so, COYR[/p][/quote]Swap Seabourne with Fonte and get Conelly on for last half hour in place of Lambert or Barnard and it should be the side we need to push on I was there at Exeter and they were awful and the changes made by AP were questionable KD is not commanding his area or distributing the ball well at all E-M27
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10:07am Mon 8 Feb 10

Common says...

WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU SO THICK?
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If the Echo reported the World had ended yesterday, most of you numpties would believe it.
WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU SO THICK? . If the Echo reported the World had ended yesterday, most of you numpties would believe it. Common
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10:08am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

Common wrote:
WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU SO THICK? . If the Echo reported the World had ended yesterday, most of you numpties would believe it.
my point exactly
[quote][p][bold]Common[/bold] wrote: WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU SO THICK? . If the Echo reported the World had ended yesterday, most of you numpties would believe it.[/p][/quote]my point exactly Saint Andrew Scotland
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10:13am Mon 8 Feb 10

saintly sanity says...

I do not see that the Chairman has de-stabilised the Manager – he has just stated the blindingly obvious that better results are needed if we are to make the play-offs. If we can get to the play-offs – good – if we do not, disaster has not struck – it is not the end of the world – just think of last May compared with whatever happens by this May. Of course having invested big ‘League One’ money on a few players and the Chairman expects results – why shouldn’t he?

We are all getting far too excited – the Echo listens to Radio Solent and then creates a story – the paper has no real idea on the personal dynamics between the Manager and the Owners because they cannot get to speak with them – my money is on our investors having much better information than the Echo – remember – they had a 5-year plan, not a 1-year plan.

The Echo may whip up enthusiasm for immediate success but wiser heads would recognise that to overcome the points deduction and the late entry of AP on to the scene created a serious uphill task.

AP is not perfect and neither am I – looking at some comments, I can only assume that some writers should be working alongside AP, such is their apparent wisdom, knowledge and clarity of thought.

Me? – I am happy AP is there in charge and not most of the writers! Most certainly I would not want a change of management at this stage – we should not judge the team or the Manager until the end of season – gut reactions after not winning a mid-season away match is no answer.
I do not see that the Chairman has de-stabilised the Manager – he has just stated the blindingly obvious that better results are needed if we are to make the play-offs. If we can get to the play-offs – good – if we do not, disaster has not struck – it is not the end of the world – just think of last May compared with whatever happens by this May. Of course having invested big ‘League One’ money on a few players and the Chairman expects results – why shouldn’t he? We are all getting far too excited – the Echo listens to Radio Solent and then creates a story – the paper has no real idea on the personal dynamics between the Manager and the Owners because they cannot get to speak with them – my money is on our investors having much better information than the Echo – remember – they had a 5-year plan, not a 1-year plan. The Echo may whip up enthusiasm for immediate success [and of course we would all like that] but wiser heads would recognise that to overcome the points deduction and the late entry of AP on to the scene created a serious uphill task. AP is not perfect and neither am I – looking at some comments, I can only assume that some writers should be working alongside AP, such is their apparent wisdom, knowledge and clarity of thought. Me? – I am happy AP is there in charge and not most of the writers! Most certainly I would not want a change of management at this stage – we should not judge the team or the Manager until the end of season – gut reactions after not winning a mid-season away match is no answer. saintly sanity
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10:14am Mon 8 Feb 10

Alicesdad says...

Cortese has a good point but in all reality the play offs would be an amazing achievement and I think he knew that at the start of the season. This team has done extremely well to get where it is and should go higher from now on with this squad. I dont think Cortese was "putting pressure" on Pardew though. He was expressing what we all know (including Pards) - this squad is too good for this league and shouldnt be squandering points at this stage. A couple of players need to play at their higher level and not slip back and the team as a whole needs to play more positively, but don't forget that all teams raise their game against us, and as a unit we havent been together for that long.
What has impressed me about the overall set up this season is that we have raised ourselves above the usual tabloid activities and the conduct of our executive and the Manager has been of a higher echelon. I would be amazed if Pardew was blamed if we dont get to the play offs. I would be deeply disappointed in Cortese if he stooped to the level of previous Boards and removed managers on the back of short patches of indifferent form. Cortese must know he has someone in Pardew with deep football knowledge and contacts. Its way way way too soon for the doom merchants to start saying "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Next season is when the judgements will be made, this season was about rebuilding a team, and a club. When the end of this season is reviewed I'm sure Cortese will hold firm and realise that the five year plan is looking good and we are still on the right path.
Cortese has a good point but in all reality the play offs would be an amazing achievement and I think he knew that at the start of the season. This team has done extremely well to get where it is and should go higher from now on with this squad. I dont think Cortese was "putting pressure" on Pardew though. He was expressing what we all know (including Pards) - this squad is too good for this league and shouldnt be squandering points at this stage. A couple of players need to play at their higher level and not slip back and the team as a whole needs to play more positively, but don't forget that all teams raise their game against us, and as a unit we havent been together for that long. What has impressed me about the overall set up this season is that we have raised ourselves above the usual tabloid activities and the conduct of our executive and the Manager has been of a higher echelon. I would be amazed if Pardew was blamed if we dont get to the play offs. I would be deeply disappointed in Cortese if he stooped to the level of previous Boards and removed managers on the back of short patches of indifferent form. Cortese must know he has someone in Pardew with deep football knowledge and contacts. Its way way way too soon for the doom merchants to start saying "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Next season is when the judgements will be made, this season was about rebuilding a team, and a club. When the end of this season is reviewed I'm sure Cortese will hold firm and realise that the five year plan is looking good and we are still on the right path. Alicesdad
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10:17am Mon 8 Feb 10

frattonchorus says...

Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey frattonchorus
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10:17am Mon 8 Feb 10

Dazzler79 says...

I agree with what cortese is saying,but the fact we have done well to get where we are is a great job so far.
Pardew however has been backed with the cheque book and got in quality players who have struggled in the last 2 away games. The 4-5-1 formation he deploys is a negative one and easy for the opposition to defend against. Lambert simply cannot work up front on his own.
We should be going 4-4-2 whoever we are playing,waigo came on last week up front so logic would of said put him up front on saturday.
Come on pards i have faith in you but it has to be 4-4-2 for rest of season the bplay-offs are out of reach now with norwich,leeds,swindo
n,huddersfield and charlton still to play we will be lucky to get 2 wins from them games. COYR!!!
I agree with what cortese is saying,but the fact we have done well to get where we are is a great job so far. Pardew however has been backed with the cheque book and got in quality players who have struggled in the last 2 away games. The 4-5-1 formation he deploys is a negative one and easy for the opposition to defend against. Lambert simply cannot work up front on his own. We should be going 4-4-2 whoever we are playing,waigo came on last week up front so logic would of said put him up front on saturday. Come on pards i have faith in you but it has to be 4-4-2 for rest of season the bplay-offs are out of reach now with norwich,leeds,swindo n,huddersfield and charlton still to play we will be lucky to get 2 wins from them games. COYR!!! Dazzler79
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10:20am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

frattonchorus wrote:
Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL
[quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL Saint Andrew Scotland
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10:21am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote:
We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better.

Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again.

I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em.

Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement.
Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means.

Come on You Saints.
what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting.
I can criticise you from here very easily and it's lovely here 23c with the French doors open at 11pm.very comfy ta.

The fact is that as a distant supporter we get to hear the cat calls and booing of our players by a few like you in the boo brigade

We read all the cat calls in the threads through out the pre-season and the predictions of relegation to L2 though the first games of the season... you were a pain in the ars then and are now. Saints don't need your season ticket money... if you are bored leave.. honestly leave! you'll do everyone a huge favour.

Screaming all the time for managers heads just shows yourself up.

This is a continuation of the stirring battle between The Echo and Saints.
Making silly statements that Pards will be out if he loses to Norwich is a laugh.

Before you slag me and the overseas fans even more let me repeat an earlier post that I believe that if the board is not shown convincing evidence of a significant improvement in performance before the end of the season a football director will be appointed at the end of the season to overseas plans for next year and if we are not in the top 6 after the first 3 months of the season action will be taken and if not in the top 3 by Christmas then we'll see movement.

We've just had an injection of new players who are not used to playing together.. that will take a few games.

I've every confidence that the team will lift off again and get very close to the play-offs...
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: We do need to see a string of solid results from the squad. The squad has been hand picked and dearly bought. With the guys we have and the guys on the side lines with Pards they should be performing better. Players have to respond to criticism and start showing their skills... no more missed chances, score from corners and we'll be on the move again. I don't believe in putting it all on managers... Saints have had a few of em. Pards is on 47.37% win ratio having lost only 7 games from 38 with Saints. That's very similar to when he was with Reading so don't just do the simplistic thing by pointing the finger at him.. there have been loads of chances squandered and a lot of player errors that let things slip. We now have a big squad.. get the cups out the way and I think we'll see some movement. Smack the Muffs in front of a ground full.. fans will show the Big Boss how much that means. Come on You Saints.[/p][/quote]what you are forgetting is that he has that ratio in LEAGUE 1!!!thats is poor.with the squad we have we should be top 6,even with a 10 point deficite.its not been good enough.i pay for a season ticket and the football pardew plays has been dross.almost kick and hoof.if you bothered going you would know.but instead you get all high and mighty critizing me from thousands of miles away in your armchair,and you dont even go?how can you critize mate?thats disgusting.[/p][/quote]I can criticise you from here very easily and it's lovely here 23c with the French doors open at 11pm.very comfy ta. The fact is that as a distant supporter we get to hear the cat calls and booing of our players by a few like you in the boo brigade We read all the cat calls in the threads through out the pre-season and the predictions of relegation to L2 though the first games of the season... you were a pain in the ars then and are now. Saints don't need your season ticket money... if you are bored leave.. honestly leave! you'll do everyone a huge favour. Screaming all the time for managers heads just shows yourself up. This is a continuation of the stirring battle between The Echo and Saints. Making silly statements that Pards will be out if he loses to Norwich is a laugh. Before you slag me and the overseas fans even more let me repeat an earlier post that I believe that if the board is not shown convincing evidence of a significant improvement in performance before the end of the season a football director will be appointed at the end of the season to overseas plans for next year and if we are not in the top 6 after the first 3 months of the season action will be taken and if not in the top 3 by Christmas then we'll see movement. We've just had an injection of new players who are not used to playing together.. that will take a few games. I've every confidence that the team will lift off again and get very close to the play-offs... Tirau Dan
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10:25am Mon 8 Feb 10

frattonchorus says...

Saint Andrew Scotland wrote:
frattonchorus wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL
I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Andrew Scotland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL[/p][/quote]I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was! frattonchorus
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10:29am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

frattonchorus wrote:
Saint Andrew Scotland wrote:
frattonchorus wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL
I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was!
We'll find out tomorrow, it's an evening kick-off; take your torches
[quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Andrew Scotland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL[/p][/quote]I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was![/p][/quote]We'll find out tomorrow, it's an evening kick-off; take your torches Saint Andrew Scotland
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10:33am Mon 8 Feb 10

allsaintsnocurves says...

frattonchorus wrote:
Saint Andrew Scotland wrote:
frattonchorus wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL
I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was!
Well you're obviously reading the press about investors on the horizon! lol. Relegation will hurt Pompey more than Saints not going up this season! We'll just go and win the league next year...this season we'll have a Wembley trip and I can't see us not losing on Saturday.

I'd still take our position over Pompey's any day of the week!! At least we have a stadium, training ground and decent youth academy and owners who have ambition to not only get to the Premier league but to compete with the top 4!!
[quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Andrew Scotland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Have you still got lights down there, the News of the World reckon you haven't paid the 'lecky' bill, LOL[/p][/quote]I wouldn't believe all that you read in The News Of The World. They broke the story on Al Fahim buying us, and that he was "5 times richer than Abramovic"... and we know how accurate that was![/p][/quote]Well you're obviously reading the press about investors on the horizon! lol. Relegation will hurt Pompey more than Saints not going up this season! We'll just go and win the league next year...this season we'll have a Wembley trip and I can't see us not losing on Saturday. I'd still take our position over Pompey's any day of the week!! At least we have a stadium, training ground and decent youth academy and owners who have ambition to not only get to the Premier league but to compete with the top 4!! allsaintsnocurves
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10:34am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

frattonchorus wrote:
Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Yes So'ton is paradise
No trouble at all though
in fact we're all singing Bob Dylan

All your seasick sailors,
they are rowing home.
Your empty headed armies,
they're all going home.
The Arab who just
walked out your door
Has taken all his blankets
from the floor.
The carpet, too,
is moving under you
And it's all over now, Pompey Blue.

Look out the saints
are comin' through
And it's all over now, Pompey Blue

and even your chimes
Pay Up Pompey Pay Up
Investors...come on even you've heard that before... you have nothing at all to invest in.
[quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Yes So'ton is paradise No trouble at all though in fact we're all singing Bob Dylan All your seasick sailors, they are rowing home. Your empty headed armies, they're all going home. The Arab who just walked out your door Has taken all his blankets from the floor. The carpet, too, is moving under you And it's all over now, Pompey Blue. Look out the saints are comin' through And it's all over now, Pompey Blue and even your chimes Pay Up Pompey Pay Up Investors...come on even you've heard that before... you have nothing at all to invest in. Tirau Dan
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10:35am Mon 8 Feb 10

leosaint says...

For a very long time i have read the comments on this site without comment. I do respect all who have commented because there is one common thread WE ALL LOVE THE SAINTS.However pardrew out is way out of line with his comments about overseas supporters making comments about our team as disgusting. I for onr have lived abrord for the last 23 years but my love for saints goes back to Ted Bates first season as manager and i have i am sure seen SAINTS as often as most but just not recently, i do make one or two trips a year(i was there for milwall) and such trips cost more money for one trip than the cost of a season ticket. I also pay for Saints TV each year, sent to RD fund and sent more than the price of a season ticket last April when we really needed it.My point is that all Saints fans have the right to comment without beening labled disgusting, so please Mr. Pardew Out have respect for your fellow Saints supporter where ever they may be.
For a very long time i have read the comments on this site without comment. I do respect all who have commented because there is one common thread WE ALL LOVE THE SAINTS.However pardrew out is way out of line with his comments about overseas supporters making comments about our team as disgusting. I for onr have lived abrord for the last 23 years but my love for saints goes back to Ted Bates first season as manager and i have i am sure seen SAINTS as often as most but just not recently, i do make one or two trips a year(i was there for milwall) and such trips cost more money for one trip than the cost of a season ticket. I also pay for Saints TV each year, sent to RD fund and sent more than the price of a season ticket last April when we really needed it.My point is that all Saints fans have the right to comment without beening labled disgusting, so please Mr. Pardew Out have respect for your fellow Saints supporter where ever they may be. leosaint
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10:35am Mon 8 Feb 10

Dorssaints says...

Play offs were always going to be a big ask this year. However the team is not performing well enough given the players who have come in. I am sure AP is as dissapointed as NC, but once the whistle goes it is down to the players to produce the goods. Let's enjoy Sat, win, draw or lose, but I am as keen so see how we get on at Norwich in L1 as a marker for next season.
Play offs were always going to be a big ask this year. However the team is not performing well enough given the players who have come in. I am sure AP is as dissapointed as NC, but once the whistle goes it is down to the players to produce the goods. Let's enjoy Sat, win, draw or lose, but I am as keen so see how we get on at Norwich in L1 as a marker for next season. Dorssaints
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10:36am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint says...

Well done NC!

He has seen the ten points gone, and see's we are in touching distance of the play offs. NC obviously here whats success for this great club of ours, and this is exactly how to get it. Put it out there for all to see that recent results against lesser teams have not been gone enough. He is putting to pressure on AP and the team to deliver to the level they can and should archieve! What's wrong with that?

P.S. NC will deliver on his promises, as he is a strong positive man of action, with a brain between his ears. Again well played NC, and I am sure that AP and the team will respond!!
Well done NC! He has seen the ten points gone, and see's we are in touching distance of the play offs. NC obviously here whats success for this great club of ours, and this is exactly how to get it. Put it out there for all to see that recent results against lesser teams have not been gone enough. He is putting to pressure on AP and the team to deliver to the level they can and should archieve! What's wrong with that? P.S. NC will deliver on his promises, as he is a strong positive man of action, with a brain between his ears. Again well played NC, and I am sure that AP and the team will respond!! Saint
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10:40am Mon 8 Feb 10

Costa Baz says...

Has anyone heard this interview and the context in which the 'alleged' comments were made?
AP was quoted at the weekend as saying he was under pressure from above, which he was trying to keep away from the players.
If NC IS making such quotes in public, in a manner that may undermine his manager, the players will now be feeling the pressure AP was trying to deflect from them.
Pressure can do strange and different things to people.
Some thrive on it and their performance improves, whereas others suffer the opposite and their performances worsen.
Will this lead to improved performances or will it be a massive own goal by NC?
Tomorrow's game will see the return of players replacing those that are cuptied, so a higher level of energy should be expected, as they strive to regain first team places for Saturday and after, as well.

Watch this space.
Has anyone heard this interview and the context in which the 'alleged' comments were made? AP was quoted at the weekend as saying he was under pressure from above, which he was trying to keep away from the players. If NC IS making such quotes in public, in a manner that may undermine his manager, the players will now be feeling the pressure AP was trying to deflect from them. Pressure can do strange and different things to people. Some thrive on it and their performance improves, whereas others suffer the opposite and their performances worsen. Will this lead to improved performances or will it be a massive own goal by NC? Tomorrow's game will see the return of players replacing those that are cuptied, so a higher level of energy should be expected, as they strive to regain first team places for Saturday and after, as well. Watch this space. Costa Baz
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10:47am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

steve coppell please.
steve coppell please. PARDEW OUT!
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10:50am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
steve coppell please.
He would be awsome.tactically.he would get them motivated.something that pardew cannot seem to do.i mean how much motivation do you need to get to the play-offs,yet against stockport and exeter they was just meandering around.mugs.it even has a ring to it..........stevie coppells red and white army.(we hate pompey)
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: steve coppell please.[/p][/quote]He would be awsome.tactically.he would get them motivated.something that pardew cannot seem to do.i mean how much motivation do you need to get to the play-offs,yet against stockport and exeter they was just meandering around.mugs.it even has a ring to it..........stevie coppells red and white army.(we hate pompey) PARDEW OUT!
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10:51am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tye-Dye says...

leosaint wrote:
For a very long time i have read the comments on this site without comment. I do respect all who have commented because there is one common thread WE ALL LOVE THE SAINTS.However pardrew out is way out of line with his comments about overseas supporters making comments about our team as disgusting. I for onr have lived abrord for the last 23 years but my love for saints goes back to Ted Bates first season as manager and i have i am sure seen SAINTS as often as most but just not recently, i do make one or two trips a year(i was there for milwall) and such trips cost more money for one trip than the cost of a season ticket. I also pay for Saints TV each year, sent to RD fund and sent more than the price of a season ticket last April when we really needed it.My point is that all Saints fans have the right to comment without beening labled disgusting, so please Mr. Pardew Out have respect for your fellow Saints supporter where ever they may be.
leosaint, ignore "pardew out" he is otherwise known as shaving your p*bes is so 2010, he is an obnoxious little prat who's opinion and views should be treated with the ridicule they deserve. The echo have banned his previous log in for slagging off fellow posters, and the team, now he is back in a different guise. He is probably a skate wum who gets a little perverted kick coming on here and acting all tough, while we all look at him as the moron he truly is. Ignore it/him mate, he aint worth a response, cheers.
[quote][p][bold]leosaint[/bold] wrote: For a very long time i have read the comments on this site without comment. I do respect all who have commented because there is one common thread WE ALL LOVE THE SAINTS.However pardrew out is way out of line with his comments about overseas supporters making comments about our team as disgusting. I for onr have lived abrord for the last 23 years but my love for saints goes back to Ted Bates first season as manager and i have i am sure seen SAINTS as often as most but just not recently, i do make one or two trips a year(i was there for milwall) and such trips cost more money for one trip than the cost of a season ticket. I also pay for Saints TV each year, sent to RD fund and sent more than the price of a season ticket last April when we really needed it.My point is that all Saints fans have the right to comment without beening labled disgusting, so please Mr. Pardew Out have respect for your fellow Saints supporter where ever they may be.[/p][/quote]leosaint, ignore "pardew out" he is otherwise known as shaving your p*bes is so 2010, he is an obnoxious little prat who's opinion and views should be treated with the ridicule they deserve. The echo have banned his previous log in for slagging off fellow posters, and the team, now he is back in a different guise. He is probably a skate wum who gets a little perverted kick coming on here and acting all tough, while we all look at him as the moron he truly is. Ignore it/him mate, he aint worth a response, cheers. Tye-Dye
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11:04am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

I must have missed something Leo.. I've not heard any of the overseas fans speaking out of order or Pards slagging overseas fans. He picked up fans for criticising Rickie lack of scoring and rightly pointed to his assists and other work as being top notch.
The Overseas Platoon of the Alan Pardew's Red Army even have a fb group to support them.. we are the happy clappy ones very much behind the team and Alan.
I must have missed something Leo.. I've not heard any of the overseas fans speaking out of order or Pards slagging overseas fans. He picked up fans for criticising Rickie lack of scoring and rightly pointed to his assists and other work as being top notch. The Overseas Platoon of the Alan Pardew's Red Army even have a fb group to support them.. we are the happy clappy ones very much behind the team and Alan. Tirau Dan
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11:12am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Pete II says...

Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool!

This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.
Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him. Saint Pete II
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11:16am Mon 8 Feb 10

saint anto says...

im from ireland and im a die hard saints fan for many years,in fact im the only one that i know off who supports saints in my town,i just registerd to write comments on this site but i have being reading it for a long time now,but im just so happy we could be going to wembley and pompey in the cup is a dream tie,just hope win both games this week and ge back to whats important the league,pardew has done well for us,granted we messed up with draws when we should of won,but whats done is done now lets just wait see what happens.
im from ireland and im a die hard saints fan for many years,in fact im the only one that i know off who supports saints in my town,i just registerd to write comments on this site but i have being reading it for a long time now,but im just so happy we could be going to wembley and pompey in the cup is a dream tie,just hope win both games this week and ge back to whats important the league,pardew has done well for us,granted we messed up with draws when we should of won,but whats done is done now lets just wait see what happens. saint anto
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11:25am Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint H says...

Saint Pete II wrote:
Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.
St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by.
Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL!
[quote][p][bold]Saint Pete II[/bold] wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.[/p][/quote]St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL! Saint H
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11:28am Mon 8 Feb 10

emsworth steve says...

Mr Cortese really has a valid point here. We made heavy weather of beating Stockport at SMS a week ago, whereas MK Dons beat them easily at Stockport this Saturday. At Exeter no doubt the pitch was not in ideal condition for our boys, but decent professional footballers should be able to adapt and produce the goods at lowly opposition. Cut the excuses and deliver a win. Even if the play-offs prove beyond us, a decent set of results will create a springboard for next season. Re tomorrow night, please don't throw away the lead in the first 15 mins, as is often the case! Start strongly and keep the concentration just before half-time, when we often manage to concede a goal. I'd love to be whistling a happy tune on the way back to Reigate after the match (and on Saturday!). Home advantage should be a clincher, so why am I apprehensive? OK I'll pull myself together - stiff upper lip and all that! Just do it.
Mr Cortese really has a valid point here. We made heavy weather of beating Stockport at SMS a week ago, whereas MK Dons beat them easily at Stockport this Saturday. At Exeter no doubt the pitch was not in ideal condition for our boys, but decent professional footballers should be able to adapt and produce the goods at lowly opposition. Cut the excuses and deliver a win. Even if the play-offs prove beyond us, a decent set of results will create a springboard for next season. Re tomorrow night, please don't throw away the lead in the first 15 mins, as is often the case! Start strongly and keep the concentration just before half-time, when we often manage to concede a goal. I'd love to be whistling a happy tune on the way back to Reigate after the match (and on Saturday!). Home advantage should be a clincher, so why am I apprehensive? OK I'll pull myself together - stiff upper lip and all that! Just do it. emsworth steve
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11:32am Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).
At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough). south west saint
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11:37am Mon 8 Feb 10

spratt says...

Are things not getting a little confused on here. This is not about the Echo trying to undermine Saints or the Chairman critising AP in public. AP himself in the Guardian article makes it clear he is under pressure from above. Neither is this about any 5 yr plan or about reaching the play-offs. This is not about getting another manager. It is about the plain open truth that the team is not achieving the results they should be and this is down to the players and most of all the manager. This applies to any team. The fact of the matter is we are not where we should have been and the owners are not happy. Why that is is a matter of opinion.
Are things not getting a little confused on here. This is not about the Echo trying to undermine Saints or the Chairman critising AP in public. AP himself in the Guardian article makes it clear he is under pressure from above. Neither is this about any 5 yr plan or about reaching the play-offs. This is not about getting another manager. It is about the plain open truth that the team is not achieving the results they should be and this is down to the players and most of all the manager. This applies to any team. The fact of the matter is we are not where we should have been and the owners are not happy. Why that is is a matter of opinion. spratt
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11:39am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

Saint H wrote:
Saint Pete II wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.
St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL!
"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate.
now,listen up..................
......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS.
[quote][p][bold]Saint H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Pete II[/bold] wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.[/p][/quote]St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL![/p][/quote]"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate. now,listen up.................. ......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS. PARDEW OUT!
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11:39am Mon 8 Feb 10

leosaint says...

Tirau Dan read Pardew out´s post of 9.42 which comments on your post and concludes and i quote "how can you crtize? thats disgusting.
Tirau Dan read Pardew out´s post of 9.42 which comments on your post and concludes and i quote "how can you crtize? thats disgusting. leosaint
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11:44am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

leosaint wrote:
Tirau Dan read Pardew out´s post of 9.42 which comments on your post and concludes and i quote "how can you crtize? thats disgusting.
leosaint....why dont you stuff you face with madeira cake and jog on.you dont go to games,your just a happy clappy wannabee.check you out thinking your all upper class quoting a spelling mistake.i bet your racist too.most people on here have been racist to me due to my portuguese background.making fun of spelling is the same a racism.
[quote][p][bold]leosaint[/bold] wrote: Tirau Dan read Pardew out´s post of 9.42 which comments on your post and concludes and i quote "how can you crtize? thats disgusting.[/p][/quote]leosaint....why dont you stuff you face with madeira cake and jog on.you dont go to games,your just a happy clappy wannabee.check you out thinking your all upper class quoting a spelling mistake.i bet your racist too.most people on here have been racist to me due to my portuguese background.making fun of spelling is the same a racism. PARDEW OUT!
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11:46am Mon 8 Feb 10

Tye-Dye says...

south west saint wrote:
At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).
SWS, mate your well within your rights to criticize, no one can have a go at you for that, its when it all got personal that it got out of hand. A kick up the derriere from up above is no bad thing in any work place, its good to see it happening at Saints. But, there is a 5 year plan in place, not 1 season, so if we dont get out of LG1 this season then we will tear it up next season. Without the -10 we would be challenging, with it we are mid table, still 3 months left, 18 games and anything can happen....though thats optimistic ;)
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).[/p][/quote]SWS, mate your well within your rights to criticize, no one can have a go at you for that, its when it all got personal that it got out of hand. A kick up the derriere from up above is no bad thing in any work place, its good to see it happening at Saints. But, there is a 5 year plan in place, not 1 season, so if we dont get out of LG1 this season then we will tear it up next season. Without the -10 we would be challenging, with it we are mid table, still 3 months left, 18 games and anything can happen....though thats optimistic ;) Tye-Dye
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11:48am Mon 8 Feb 10

RobJChase says...

Common wrote:
The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again.
.
You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail.
Not sure if you heard the bit on solent but I did and its has the say. and not out of context. Admit it they are just reporting what the radio said
[quote][p][bold]Common[/bold] wrote: The Echo taking quotes out of context yet again. . You get the feeling the Echo are now willing Saints to fail.[/p][/quote]Not sure if you heard the bit on solent but I did and its has the say. and not out of context. Admit it they are just reporting what the radio said RobJChase
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11:48am Mon 8 Feb 10

blappblapp says...

Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!!

We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later.

If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!!
Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!! We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later. If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!! blappblapp
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11:50am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

blappblapp wrote:
Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!! We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later. If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!!
oh my sweet jesus christ.at last.
a sensible post.thank you.
[quote][p][bold]blappblapp[/bold] wrote: Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!! We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later. If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!![/p][/quote]oh my sweet jesus christ.at last. a sensible post.thank you. PARDEW OUT!
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11:52am Mon 8 Feb 10

PARDEW OUT! says...

lose to mk dons,skates and norwich and pardew will be gone i think.
lose to mk dons,skates and norwich and pardew will be gone i think. PARDEW OUT!
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11:56am Mon 8 Feb 10

leosaint says...

Paqrdrw out. to begin i am the worlds worst speller and thank the lord for spell check everyday. secondly i was bought up in Bramly creasent, hardly upper class thirdly i am ashamed that after 23 years in Madeira i cannot speak portuguese, finally when i have enough money i will retier with my Brasillian wife to Santos Brasil, even futher away than Madeira however this will not make me any less afan than i was as a boy in the fifties watching the saints in the old third division south with great players such as Day. Mulgrew, Christie, Hopkins, Revees, Page and Parker. if 50 plus years from now youy are still as passionate about the Saints as I am then i will be pleased to continue this diolog. until then enjoy watching OUR SAINTS no matter what Div. they are in.
Paqrdrw out. to begin i am the worlds worst speller and thank the lord for spell check everyday. secondly i was bought up in Bramly creasent, hardly upper class thirdly i am ashamed that after 23 years in Madeira i cannot speak portuguese, finally when i have enough money i will retier with my Brasillian wife to Santos Brasil, even futher away than Madeira however this will not make me any less afan than i was as a boy in the fifties watching the saints in the old third division south with great players such as Day. Mulgrew, Christie, Hopkins, Revees, Page and Parker. if 50 plus years from now youy are still as passionate about the Saints as I am then i will be pleased to continue this diolog. until then enjoy watching OUR SAINTS no matter what Div. they are in. leosaint
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12:04pm Mon 8 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

Im sorry but i do have to agree with some posts calling for AP's head.
The team look very lathargic and im growing tired of his tactics.I also cannot understand why he didnt sign a fast striker in january.we needed that.But i dont think pardew can change his ways.I feel that the owners are getting itchey feet and want to be in the premier league sooner rather than later.we will get there,with or without alan pardew so dont worry guys.but please people,stop going on about the past like "we nearly went out of business" its getting old now.the fact is we are very much in business and are thriving so there is no more sorry excuses.
Im sorry but i do have to agree with some posts calling for AP's head. The team look very lathargic and im growing tired of his tactics.I also cannot understand why he didnt sign a fast striker in january.we needed that.But i dont think pardew can change his ways.I feel that the owners are getting itchey feet and want to be in the premier league sooner rather than later.we will get there,with or without alan pardew so dont worry guys.but please people,stop going on about the past like "we nearly went out of business" its getting old now.the fact is we are very much in business and are thriving so there is no more sorry excuses. bitterne park tim.
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12:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

I would like to see sven goran eriksson personally.he is a good manager i.m.o
I would like to see sven goran eriksson personally.he is a good manager i.m.o bitterne park tim.
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12:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10

emsworth steve says...

Let's give AP the benefit of the doubt and concentrate on the next fortnight. After the Norwich match would be a good time to reflect back and see where we are. Hopefully at Wembley in JPT final, in the draw for the 6th round of the FA cup and helping Delia recover from another unsuccessful bout of "Let's be 'aving you!" Security word lady-left; hopefully Mrs Smith just before the final whistle at Norwich.
Let's give AP the benefit of the doubt and concentrate on the next fortnight. After the Norwich match would be a good time to reflect back and see where we are. Hopefully at Wembley in JPT final, in the draw for the 6th round of the FA cup and helping Delia recover from another unsuccessful bout of "Let's be 'aving you!" Security word lady-left; hopefully Mrs Smith just before the final whistle at Norwich. emsworth steve
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12:21pm Mon 8 Feb 10

NC Fan4Life says...

Nicola Cortese is right to demand better performances considering the number of new players AP has been allowed to bring in.
However whereas good quality players will settle in quickly and show an improvement to the team, such as Lambert, Hammond, Harding & Fonte.
Time will tell whether some of the other signings are good enough, but from first viewing I fear that most are no better than what we already have.
AP now has a squad that is probably too large and only added a few players to the squad who are of a better quality to improve the 11 on the pitch.
Prehaps a few less aqusitions but of better quality would have been a better transfer policy.
Nicola Cortese is right to demand better performances considering the number of new players AP has been allowed to bring in. However whereas good quality players will settle in quickly and show an improvement to the team, such as Lambert, Hammond, Harding & Fonte. Time will tell whether some of the other signings are good enough, but from first viewing I fear that most are no better than what we already have. AP now has a squad that is probably too large and only added a few players to the squad who are of a better quality to improve the 11 on the pitch. Prehaps a few less aqusitions but of better quality would have been a better transfer policy. NC Fan4Life
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12:23pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

blappblapp wrote:
Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!! We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later. If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!!
Agree with much you say and the Pardew doubters on here must now be respected because our ambitious leader is also saying current league form isn't good enough. I've not been impressed with Barnard either, but hope it's still early days and he'll prove his worth in time. However, I totally disagree with you about Waigo and you obviously weren't at Exeter on Saturday, when he got his starting chance and failed to deliver yet again. Waigo can only be used from the bench where it has worked a couple of times (Exeter home and Stockport more recently).
[quote][p][bold]blappblapp[/bold] wrote: Well well well. Hopefully some of the idiots on here will now see the clubs ambition!! I can't believe how many people on here have been saying "look at where we were in the summer etc and we're lucky to be mid table this season with a trip to wembley on the cards" NO!! I and many others have always stated that the play-offs is our main aim and concern, so i hope all you guys with no ambition finally take note! The chairman has a 3 year plan to take us to the premier NOT a 5 year one!! Pards is not coming up with the goods of late and rightly so is coming under pressure!! I saw a few people the other day talk about which new managers they'd like ie boothroyd and others like worthington!! lol!!! I'm sure the chairman is thinking of bigger names than that ffs. Mark my words he'll get in someone with superior experience, and i wouldn't be surprised if it was someone like sven or someone else with international experience!! We are a massive club now with massive spending power and our owner and chairman want us at the top sooner rather than later. If we don't make the play-offs Alan Pardew is out!! No ifs or buts he WILL be gone. I hope he goes personally because he's changed a winning team to a drawing team with his change of tactics that really didn't need changing. He's brought in too many average players with exception of Fonte. Barnard is a joke btw. and Papa Waigo should be upfront every match!!!!! We need pace up there anyway tom dick or arry can see that!!!!![/p][/quote]Agree with much you say and the Pardew doubters on here must now be respected because our ambitious leader is also saying current league form isn't good enough. I've not been impressed with Barnard either, but hope it's still early days and he'll prove his worth in time. However, I totally disagree with you about Waigo and you obviously weren't at Exeter on Saturday, when he got his starting chance and failed to deliver yet again. Waigo can only be used from the bench where it has worked a couple of times (Exeter home and Stockport more recently). SomersetSaint
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12:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10

ramptonfromsouthampton says...

To Pardew Out. You are the mug mate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sound like a spoilt teenager; if you don't get your way, you throw a strop and everyone else is wrong, no-one can see the truth but you and there is, of course, nobody else who supports the club more than you cos you go to most of the games. What a ****. If you really had the club's interest at heart, you wouldn't be calling for a change of management from the off. Get real why don't ya? Stability breeds success, not knee-jerk reactionary ****.
To Pardew Out. You are the mug mate. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you sound like a spoilt teenager; if you don't get your way, you throw a strop and everyone else is wrong, no-one can see the truth but you and there is, of course, nobody else who supports the club more than you cos you go to most of the games. What a ****. If you really had the club's interest at heart, you wouldn't be calling for a change of management from the off. Get real why don't ya? Stability breeds success, not knee-jerk reactionary ****. ramptonfromsouthampton
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12:30pm Mon 8 Feb 10

techsture says...

I won't shed a tear if Pardew goes, said for months he is tactically niave.

I just hope he takes KD with him.
I won't shed a tear if Pardew goes, said for months he is tactically niave. I just hope he takes KD with him. techsture
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12:32pm Mon 8 Feb 10

saint_in_Finland says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.
YOU ABSOLUTE ****!!!!!!!
I cant stand people with such short memories we have come such a long way since the summer and its all down to the new owners and Alan Pardew remember the facts -10 points and a totally new team that has been put together in a very short time and yes they do need time to gel together! I for one am very happy that we now have the players to push on and win this division next season and am so happy with the progress made this season as I never expected us to survive during the summer!!! so just stop the Idiotic comments and get behind the team and I mean the whole TEAM !!!!
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.[/p][/quote]YOU ABSOLUTE ****!!!!!!! I cant stand people with such short memories we have come such a long way since the summer and its all down to the new owners and Alan Pardew remember the facts -10 points and a totally new team that has been put together in a very short time and yes they do need time to gel together! I for one am very happy that we now have the players to push on and win this division next season and am so happy with the progress made this season as I never expected us to survive during the summer!!! so just stop the Idiotic comments and get behind the team and I mean the whole TEAM !!!! saint_in_Finland
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12:34pm Mon 8 Feb 10

chappers73 says...

Why is there so much negativity about Kelvin Davis? He turned down West Ham to stay with us at the last minute when he heard we had been taken over and as a shot stopper there is no better keeper in League 1 by a country mile.
Why is there so much negativity about Kelvin Davis? He turned down West Ham to stay with us at the last minute when he heard we had been taken over and as a shot stopper there is no better keeper in League 1 by a country mile. chappers73
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12:40pm Mon 8 Feb 10

gkmeech says...

What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field.
What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field. gkmeech
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12:46pm Mon 8 Feb 10

gillyman says...

same old saints fans always whingeing last season the team and football was awful we started the season with a p#** poor team and have slowly improved we work harder and the football is better we are on the up slowly COYR remember rome was not built in a day
same old saints fans always whingeing last season the team and football was awful we started the season with a p#** poor team and have slowly improved we work harder and the football is better we are on the up slowly COYR remember rome was not built in a day gillyman
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12:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10

saint_in_Finland says...

gkmeech wrote:
What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field.
Good shout totally agree!!!
[quote][p][bold]gkmeech[/bold] wrote: What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field.[/p][/quote]Good shout totally agree!!! saint_in_Finland
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12:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10

eaglespark says...

Looking at Cortese's remarks in detail, it seems to me that he was happy with the performances up until Xmas, feeling that the performances were a fair reflection of the money that was spent last summer.
Since Xmas, more money has been spent but performances have dropped, and this is not a good reflection of the money spent.
Many posters, even those who still like Pardew, have said that too many changes have been made recently, and they are correct.New blood does not mean better results unless they are introduced slowly (evolution not revolution). Most decent managers know this.
Chappers73 - hello mate, lots of people have notices that our drop in form has coincide with Davis' return to the team, and our best run of the season came with Bart in the net. I don't think any of us are questioning his commitment (your point about West Ham), just his ability.
Looking at Cortese's remarks in detail, it seems to me that he was happy with the performances up until Xmas, feeling that the performances were a fair reflection of the money that was spent last summer. Since Xmas, more money has been spent but performances have dropped, and this is not a good reflection of the money spent. Many posters, even those who still like Pardew, have said that too many changes have been made recently, and they are correct.New blood does not mean better results unless they are introduced slowly (evolution not revolution). Most decent managers know this. Chappers73 - hello mate, lots of people have notices that our drop in form has coincide with Davis' return to the team, and our best run of the season came with Bart in the net. I don't think any of us are questioning his commitment (your point about West Ham), just his ability. eaglespark
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12:49pm Mon 8 Feb 10

normsted says...

Isnt it amazing how a "chinese whisper" is twisted by some to try and give credibility to their negativity.
Name me a team that has HAD to bring in such a high number of players in such a short timeframe and within about two weeks turn them into an unbeatable squad ?.
No point in waiting for the answer to that one then !
Only somone who knows absolutely nothing about football would think that was possible.
Typical of the quick fix brigade to shout sack the manager at the first opportunity, history should tell you,that doesnt work,where have you been ?
Your energy would be better served "supporting " the team not gripeing.
Thankfully you are in the minority The positives will always outweigh the negatives.
Isnt it amazing how a "chinese whisper" is twisted by some to try and give credibility to their negativity. Name me a team that has HAD to bring in such a high number of players in such a short timeframe and within about two weeks turn them into an unbeatable squad ?. No point in waiting for the answer to that one then ! Only somone who knows absolutely nothing about football would think that was possible. Typical of the quick fix brigade to shout sack the manager at the first opportunity, history should tell you,that doesnt work,where have you been ? Your energy would be better served "supporting " the team not gripeing. Thankfully you are in the minority The positives will always outweigh the negatives. normsted
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12:51pm Mon 8 Feb 10

bazza says...

Good about time too.He has spent 3 million + unheard of in this league since Fulham,and the team has only won once in the league against a top ten side.Now the brigade can be quite again as I said all along this season play offs and up and take 4years to get out of the championship.If not players will leave.Norwich and Charlton had sides very close to Saints and were both in a mess and 28 games ago we were only ten points off the play offs.we were playing good in Oct,Nov so why change everything.Makes no sense to change back line all in one game.
Good about time too.He has spent 3 million + unheard of in this league since Fulham,and the team has only won once in the league against a top ten side.Now the brigade can be quite again as I said all along this season play offs and up and take 4years to get out of the championship.If not players will leave.Norwich and Charlton had sides very close to Saints and were both in a mess and 28 games ago we were only ten points off the play offs.we were playing good in Oct,Nov so why change everything.Makes no sense to change back line all in one game. bazza
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12:54pm Mon 8 Feb 10

JDT says...

pressure is a good thing if you can handle it, looking at the highlights on bbc sports, our forwards are trying to hard, if we can just calm down we have the team to take us to the play offs. coyr
pressure is a good thing if you can handle it, looking at the highlights on bbc sports, our forwards are trying to hard, if we can just calm down we have the team to take us to the play offs. coyr JDT
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12:58pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

chappers73 wrote:
Why is there so much negativity about Kelvin Davis? He turned down West Ham to stay with us at the last minute when he heard we had been taken over and as a shot stopper there is no better keeper in League 1 by a country mile.
I certainly wouldn't question KD's commitment and agree he's an excellent shot stopper. However, if he stays on his line and allows someone a free header from 5 or 6 yards (as at Brentford & Exeter), guess what happens?!!
[quote][p][bold]chappers73[/bold] wrote: Why is there so much negativity about Kelvin Davis? He turned down West Ham to stay with us at the last minute when he heard we had been taken over and as a shot stopper there is no better keeper in League 1 by a country mile.[/p][/quote]I certainly wouldn't question KD's commitment and agree he's an excellent shot stopper. However, if he stays on his line and allows someone a free header from 5 or 6 yards (as at Brentford & Exeter), guess what happens?!! SomersetSaint
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12:58pm Mon 8 Feb 10

worthing_saint says...

No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?
No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs? worthing_saint
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1:00pm Mon 8 Feb 10

St Retford says...

Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad.
Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad. St Retford
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1:03pm Mon 8 Feb 10

St Retford says...

worthing_saint wrote:
No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?
If we hit the mother of all purple patches then we can still do it. I reckon we might get to a scenario when we enter the top six for the first time on the final day of the season.

(Then I'd absolutely love it if we beat Leeds in the play off final.)
[quote][p][bold]worthing_saint[/bold] wrote: No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?[/p][/quote]If we hit the mother of all purple patches then we can still do it. I reckon we might get to a scenario when we enter the top six for the first time on the final day of the season. (Then I'd absolutely love it if we beat Leeds in the play off final.) St Retford
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1:11pm Mon 8 Feb 10

OSPREYSAINT says...

saint_in_Finland wrote:
gkmeech wrote: What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field.
Good shout totally agree!!!
I have to agree too, although I accept what NC was saying, the timing is wrong, sending the wrong message about the two most important games this week. I am happy to give AP the benefit of the doubt, at least 'til the end of the season, we have had enough disruption, only stability wll see us through, time is short but at least give it a chance.
[quote][p][bold]saint_in_Finland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gkmeech[/bold] wrote: What a lot of people also seem to forget is that over the next 10 days we have to put out three different teams due to ineligibilities either either the JP or FA Cup. That has to disrupt things and inhibit gelling of the 'best' side we can field.[/p][/quote]Good shout totally agree!!![/p][/quote]I have to agree too, although I accept what NC was saying, the timing is wrong, sending the wrong message about the two most important games this week. I am happy to give AP the benefit of the doubt, at least 'til the end of the season, we have had enough disruption, only stability wll see us through, time is short but at least give it a chance. OSPREYSAINT
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1:12pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

worthing_saint wrote:
No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?
No chance! Can you see us getting anything at Norwich (draw at best)and then beating Huddersfield, Swindon, Charlton and Leeds at home? We probably need 72pts+ and whilst possible, it ain't gonna happen.
[quote][p][bold]worthing_saint[/bold] wrote: No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?[/p][/quote]No chance! Can you see us getting anything at Norwich (draw at best)and then beating Huddersfield, Swindon, Charlton and Leeds at home? We probably need 72pts+ and whilst possible, it ain't gonna happen. SomersetSaint
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1:12pm Mon 8 Feb 10

worried of e sussex says...

St Retford wrote:
Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad.
nice one, skate bashing always cheers me up!
unfortunatly i think the play offs have gone, 2 good cup runs A visit to Wembly and bring it on next season! i'm happy.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad.[/p][/quote]nice one, skate bashing always cheers me up! unfortunatly i think the play offs have gone, 2 good cup runs A visit to Wembly and bring it on next season! i'm happy. worried of e sussex
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1:12pm Mon 8 Feb 10

chappers73 says...

Thanks Eaglespark and Somerset Saint. Ive been to the home games since Davis came back in and am going 2mor and Sat 2 and from what Ive seen hes been good. Ive not made the away games where he didnt come off the line but he has 2 big centre backs in front of him and maybe Pardews defending formation away from home puts too much pressure on the whole team as a unit. We have the players to attack teams away from home. Put them under pressure not our own team under pressure with 4-5-1. This seasons a long way from over though. Wembley after 2mor, humiliating the so called "premiership" skates on Saturday and with a bit of belief a strong attacking push for the playoffs. COYRs. SW rock-roof lets all make sure we do both games this week!
Thanks Eaglespark and Somerset Saint. Ive been to the home games since Davis came back in and am going 2mor and Sat 2 and from what Ive seen hes been good. Ive not made the away games where he didnt come off the line but he has 2 big centre backs in front of him and maybe Pardews defending formation away from home puts too much pressure on the whole team as a unit. We have the players to attack teams away from home. Put them under pressure not our own team under pressure with 4-5-1. This seasons a long way from over though. Wembley after 2mor, humiliating the so called "premiership" skates on Saturday and with a bit of belief a strong attacking push for the playoffs. COYRs. SW rock-roof lets all make sure we do both games this week! chappers73
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1:13pm Mon 8 Feb 10

St.Yorkie says...

I think all that has been expressed on here is a bit over the top. If the Chairman tells me he wants better results it means I sharpen up a bit - and that's all it is.
It's not about sacking Pardew - there is a 5-year plan and we are currently less than 12-months into it. This man has a 3-year contract - I can't honestly see him being given the chop!
I accept we may be struggling with results - but injuries aside I would take a top half finish - with the leagues top goalscorer, and 10-points off the play-offs - just like when we started the season.
People are too unrealistic in a "fix it now" generation. Be patient - everything comes to those who wait!
Believe me I want to get out of the 3rd tier of English football - everything about us says "Premiership" - the stadium, the pitch, the catering (opps had to get that one in!), the training facilities, the Academy, and most importantly us the fans.
Let's not ruin this "love in" season by bickering amongst ourselves.
We've been crying out for some consistency and fewer changes - so let's go with Pardew until Christmas - because we will know then whether he is up to the job or not!
I think all that has been expressed on here is a bit over the top. If the Chairman tells me he wants better results it means I sharpen up a bit - and that's all it is. It's not about sacking Pardew - there is a 5-year plan and we are currently less than 12-months into it. This man has a 3-year contract - I can't honestly see him being given the chop! I accept we may be struggling with results - but injuries aside I would take a top half finish - with the leagues top goalscorer, and 10-points off the play-offs - just like when we started the season. People are too unrealistic in a "fix it now" generation. Be patient - everything comes to those who wait! Believe me I want to get out of the 3rd tier of English football - everything about us says "Premiership" - the stadium, the pitch, the catering (opps had to get that one in!), the training facilities, the Academy, and most importantly us the fans. Let's not ruin this "love in" season by bickering amongst ourselves. We've been crying out for some consistency and fewer changes - so let's go with Pardew until Christmas - because we will know then whether he is up to the job or not! St.Yorkie
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1:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

St Retford wrote:
Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad.
laughing at the skates is what i like best i've been laughing at erm all season . coz there it is all doom and gloom while here were on the up and up a trip to Wembley looms for us doom looms for then nexy season we will win this league if we don't make play-offs witch we still can . COYR
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: Can we get back to laughing at the skates yet? Today they've got their last appeal to have the winding up hearing delayed and if they lose that then they must either go into administration or else risk losing literally everything on Wednesday. Next to that, a draw against Exeter doesn't seem too bad.[/p][/quote]laughing at the skates is what i like best i've been laughing at erm all season . coz there it is all doom and gloom while here were on the up and up a trip to Wembley looms for us doom looms for then nexy season we will win this league if we don't make play-offs witch we still can . COYR 7saint7
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1:17pm Mon 8 Feb 10

WestTottonSaint says...

I agree with Cortese, our performances and results have been poor since Boxing Day. We should be in a much better position than 12th in the league even with a 10 point deduction. AP is a good manager but he's made too many changes to a team that was winning at the end of last year.
I agree with Cortese, our performances and results have been poor since Boxing Day. We should be in a much better position than 12th in the league even with a 10 point deduction. AP is a good manager but he's made too many changes to a team that was winning at the end of last year. WestTottonSaint
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1:26pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do!
what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do! stmartin65
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1:32pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Footso says...

bitterne park tim. wrote:
Im sorry but i do have to agree with some posts calling for AP's head. The team look very lathargic and im growing tired of his tactics.I also cannot understand why he didnt sign a fast striker in january.we needed that.But i dont think pardew can change his ways.I feel that the owners are getting itchey feet and want to be in the premier league sooner rather than later.we will get there,with or without alan pardew so dont worry guys.but please people,stop going on about the past like "we nearly went out of business" its getting old now.the fact is we are very much in business and are thriving so there is no more sorry excuses.
I don't (necessarily) want AP's head, and I am (before anyone starts getting any stupid ideas) not a Skate, but I want more! I know that we have spent millions, and that teams take time to get used to playing together: I know that we nearly didn't have a FL club to support, and that "Rome wasn't build in a day": I know that Exeter have a decent home record, on a pitch like a ploughed field, but we should have done better.
I only had the benefit of Radio Solent to enlighten me on Saturday, but I didn't hear "the Saints Boys never stopped running" or "they're chasing down every ball" or even "they were really unlucky to come home with a draw". Did we deserve 3-1 on Boxing Day? Unless I saw a different game, that flattered us. A lot. Not for the only time this season.

I'll tell you what we need this week: the most important week for the Club in a long while. 100% is what we need, from everyone. Nothing less will do. When all the team are playing their hearts out for their places, if we are still not good enough, then we might look at AP. If he cannot inspire that, then he may be the wrong man. If they don't want to, then they are in the wrong club. ML and NC are doing their bit, let's make sure that everybody else is doing so too. MLT would, Franny would, Doddsy would, Terry Paine would Big Ron would, the Wallaces would, Marian would, Mickey would. If you kiss that badge, you had better mean it!

Sing, for God's sake, sing and shout, If someone next to you is busy being an armchair pundit, and enjoying their sandwiches and flask, smile and suggest that they make a bit of useful noise!! How can we expect the players to go the extra mile, if we don't too?

Go on Boys, play like you did against MKD last time, and we'll make that smug-faced Incey grizzle all the way back to the concrete cows. Then step it up a notch, or two, from the way we dealt with the Tractor Boys when we face the Filth on Saturday. We shall overcome! Come on you Saints!!!!! COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!!!
(Now I've got that off my chest, you can start tearing me apart)
[quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: Im sorry but i do have to agree with some posts calling for AP's head. The team look very lathargic and im growing tired of his tactics.I also cannot understand why he didnt sign a fast striker in january.we needed that.But i dont think pardew can change his ways.I feel that the owners are getting itchey feet and want to be in the premier league sooner rather than later.we will get there,with or without alan pardew so dont worry guys.but please people,stop going on about the past like "we nearly went out of business" its getting old now.the fact is we are very much in business and are thriving so there is no more sorry excuses.[/p][/quote]I don't (necessarily) want AP's head, and I am (before anyone starts getting any stupid ideas) not a Skate, but I want more! I know that we have spent millions, and that teams take time to get used to playing together: I know that we nearly didn't have a FL club to support, and that "Rome wasn't build in a day": I know that Exeter have a decent home record, on a pitch like a ploughed field, but we should have done better. I only had the benefit of Radio Solent to enlighten me on Saturday, but I didn't hear "the Saints Boys never stopped running" or "they're chasing down every ball" or even "they were really unlucky to come home with a draw". Did we deserve 3-1 on Boxing Day? Unless I saw a different game, that flattered us. A lot. Not for the only time this season. I'll tell you what we need this week: the most important week for the Club in a long while. 100% is what we need, from everyone. Nothing less will do. When all the team are playing their hearts out for their places, if we are still not good enough, then we might look at AP. If he cannot inspire that, then he may be the wrong man. If they don't want to, then they are in the wrong club. ML and NC are doing their bit, let's make sure that everybody else is doing so too. MLT would, Franny would, Doddsy would, Terry Paine would Big Ron would, the Wallaces would, Marian would, Mickey would. If you kiss that badge, you had better mean it! Sing, for God's sake, sing and shout, If someone next to you is busy being an armchair pundit, and enjoying their sandwiches and flask, smile and suggest that they make a bit of useful noise!! How can we expect the players to go the extra mile, if we don't too? Go on Boys, play like you did against MKD last time, and we'll make that smug-faced Incey grizzle all the way back to the concrete cows. Then step it up a notch, or two, from the way we dealt with the Tractor Boys when we face the Filth on Saturday. We shall overcome! Come on you Saints!!!!! COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!!! (Now I've got that off my chest, you can start tearing me apart) Footso
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1:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

stmartin65 wrote:
what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do!
well said. COYR
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do![/p][/quote]well said. COYR 7saint7
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1:38pm Mon 8 Feb 10

E-M27 says...

St Retford wrote:
worthing_saint wrote: No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?
If we hit the mother of all purple patches then we can still do it. I reckon we might get to a scenario when we enter the top six for the first time on the final day of the season. (Then I'd absolutely love it if we beat Leeds in the play off final.)
That would be nice
My mates a Leeds fan and has never given Saints any credit for anything we've achieved
I also posted on the teamtalk site some time ago when Leeds were flying that Norwich and Charlton would finish as top two and Leeds would finish 3rd with us nicking 6th
Dreams can come true can't they?
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worthing_saint[/bold] wrote: No matter how much money you spend players still take time to gel: fact. It will be a couple of weeks before the team gels properly, will that leave us enough time to still make the play-offs?[/p][/quote]If we hit the mother of all purple patches then we can still do it. I reckon we might get to a scenario when we enter the top six for the first time on the final day of the season. (Then I'd absolutely love it if we beat Leeds in the play off final.)[/p][/quote]That would be nice My mates a Leeds fan and has never given Saints any credit for anything we've achieved I also posted on the teamtalk site some time ago when Leeds were flying that Norwich and Charlton would finish as top two and Leeds would finish 3rd with us nicking 6th Dreams can come true can't they? E-M27
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1:40pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

stmartin65 wrote:
what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do!
We'll never know which posters on here actually attend games regularly. I do and yes, expectations have been raised. You'll also know that we have a better squad than last year, yet we're playing in a weaker league? Therefore, if you went to Exeter on Saturday, you too must surely have been frustrated? My feelings are those of disappointment rather than despair and I'm certainly not calling for AP to go.
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: what have we done,we have created a bunch of fans whose level of expectancy has hit the roof.we have gone from losing nearly every game at home.we only won four all last season.to only winning at home and failing miserably by only drawing away.not good enough i here you say.this only reiterates the fact that most supporters have no clue about football and whilst there happy to blame the manager,i remind you its the players that step over the white line.too many of you seem to think its computer generated management game.we are mid table,we will finish in the top half,we might not get to play-off,we are in two cups latter stages.this has been the best season since 2003.you lot need to get real.come on start being supporters go to the matches,cheer on the team to future success.thats what supporters do![/p][/quote]We'll never know which posters on here actually attend games regularly. I do and yes, expectations have been raised. You'll also know that we have a better squad than last year, yet we're playing in a weaker league? Therefore, if you went to Exeter on Saturday, you too must surely have been frustrated? My feelings are those of disappointment rather than despair and I'm certainly not calling for AP to go. SomersetSaint
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1:49pm Mon 8 Feb 10

chappers73 says...

I think when we get the likes of Murty, Hammond and Connelly back they will add bite, experience and the attacking flair that we have so sorely missed over the last few weeks. The OS haven't updated the injuries page since Friday 29th January. Does anybody have any injury updates on these 3?
I think when we get the likes of Murty, Hammond and Connelly back they will add bite, experience and the attacking flair that we have so sorely missed over the last few weeks. The OS haven't updated the injuries page since Friday 29th January. Does anybody have any injury updates on these 3? chappers73
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1:54pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.
i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw. stmartin65
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2:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10

saint_in_Finland says...

stmartin65 wrote:
i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.
Nice to see a true supporter with the 100% right attitude!! totally agree great post
!!
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.[/p][/quote]Nice to see a true supporter with the 100% right attitude!! totally agree great post !! saint_in_Finland
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2:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Rednose says...

Sorry don't buy the spin on this one!
Didn't hear the radio Solent interview so can't comment too much on what was said or how it may have been said. But this smacks of the echo trying to get at NC to me. At the beginning of the season NC new the job in hand and set a target that AP may exceed, even if we miss out on the play offs. Don't believe the spin, nah no way, no how!! Who stand more to lose here NC, AP or the Echo? NC and AP have been working hard to re-gain the faith, to build our club back up. The Echo is just trying to sell papers and in my mind printing a story to get us saints fans to turn inwards on the very people giving us something to sing about again. I would like us to reach the play off and believe we can, keep the faith guys and don't let newspaper spin de-rail the optimism. Remember this time last year!!!! NC, AP and Mr. Markus Liebherr in your hands we trust. Bring on MK Dons. Then Portsmouth. Then ? Then ? COYR
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Sorry don't buy the spin on this one! Didn't hear the radio Solent interview so can't comment too much on what was said or how it may have been said. But this smacks of the echo trying to get at NC to me. At the beginning of the season NC new the job in hand and set a target that AP may exceed, even if we miss out on the play offs. Don't believe the spin, nah no way, no how!! Who stand more to lose here NC, AP or the Echo? NC and AP have been working hard to re-gain the faith, to build our club back up. The Echo is just trying to sell papers and in my mind printing a story to get us saints fans to turn inwards on the very people giving us something to sing about again. I would like us to reach the play off and believe we can, keep the faith guys and don't let newspaper spin de-rail the optimism. Remember this time last year!!!! NC, AP and Mr. Markus Liebherr in your hands we trust. Bring on MK Dons. Then Portsmouth. Then ? Then ? COYR C Rednose
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2:36pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Pete II says...

There is a clear divide amongst the fans which seems to be growing everyday. However, we all want the same which is success for Saints. I don't think the 'moaners' are skates, just of different opinion to me...and sometimes do not think through what they say. However, I really think it is bad to call for a managers head after a bad patch. Leeds, for example, have also had a bad patch. In their 2010 matches they have played 9, won 2, drawn 3 and lost 4! that is a bad patch if ever i saw one, but as they are in the automatic spot I guess no-one will be to worried about it. The only reason our bad patch (which is not as bad as Leeds) is being jumped upon is because of our league position which results greatly due to the -10pts and bad start to the season (team gelling and all that).

Its a matter of perspective and realistic expectations that I don't think the 'moaners' have.

In terms of when I will stop mentioning the -10pts & team gelling as an excuse... NEXT SEASON! when it has no impact on the position the team is in! Believe me, if we do bad next season then I too will be calling for AP's head. Until then, I give him and the team my full support.
There is a clear divide amongst the fans which seems to be growing everyday. However, we all want the same which is success for Saints. I don't think the 'moaners' are skates, just of different opinion to me...and sometimes do not think through what they say. However, I really think it is bad to call for a managers head after a bad patch. Leeds, for example, have also had a bad patch. In their 2010 matches they have played 9, won 2, drawn 3 and lost 4! that is a bad patch if ever i saw one, but as they are in the automatic spot I guess no-one will be to worried about it. The only reason our bad patch (which is not as bad as Leeds) is being jumped upon is because of our league position which results greatly due to the -10pts and bad start to the season (team gelling and all that). Its a matter of perspective and realistic expectations that I don't think the 'moaners' have. In terms of when I will stop mentioning the -10pts & team gelling as an excuse... NEXT SEASON! when it has no impact on the position the team is in! Believe me, if we do bad next season then I too will be calling for AP's head. Until then, I give him and the team my full support. Saint Pete II
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2:42pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

im really looking forward to both games this week,two sell-out crowds,pompey coming to town although some will wish they didnt.its all about anticipation,can we make wembley?as in the words of bob the builder,yes we can!can we beat pompey?why not?lets get ready to rumble i dont think ive been so excited about a football week since 1979 when things unfortunetley didnt go our way against forest and arsenal in the league cup and fac respectively.come on saints players,management and supporters lets give it everything we have got,lets make it a proud week to be associated with s.f.c.
im really looking forward to both games this week,two sell-out crowds,pompey coming to town although some will wish they didnt.its all about anticipation,can we make wembley?as in the words of bob the builder,yes we can!can we beat pompey?why not?lets get ready to rumble i dont think ive been so excited about a football week since 1979 when things unfortunetley didnt go our way against forest and arsenal in the league cup and fac respectively.come on saints players,management and supporters lets give it everything we have got,lets make it a proud week to be associated with s.f.c. stmartin65
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2:46pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint H says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Saint H wrote:
Saint Pete II wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.
St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL!
"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate. now,listen up.................. ......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS.
Yes i am a season ticket holder and noboby is without criticism including me so please refrain from calling me a tool thanks.
you obviously live in the quick fix society and are either someone else on here in diguise or related to him. Last week there was a big ruck on here and I am not about to start another war but don't insult my intelligence.
We are working progess and might still squeeze into the top six. Read my post properly and if we are not up next year then we should be worrying.....
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Pete II[/bold] wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.[/p][/quote]St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL![/p][/quote]"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate. now,listen up.................. ......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS.[/p][/quote]Yes i am a season ticket holder and noboby is without criticism including me so please refrain from calling me a tool thanks. you obviously live in the quick fix society and are either someone else on here in diguise or related to him. Last week there was a big ruck on here and I am not about to start another war but don't insult my intelligence. We are working progess and might still squeeze into the top six. Read my post properly and if we are not up next year then we should be worrying..... Saint H
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2:54pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Pete II says...

Saint H wrote:
PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Saint H wrote:
Saint Pete II wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.
St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL!
"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate. now,listen up.................. ......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS.
Yes i am a season ticket holder and noboby is without criticism including me so please refrain from calling me a tool thanks.
you obviously live in the quick fix society and are either someone else on here in diguise or related to him. Last week there was a big ruck on here and I am not about to start another war but don't insult my intelligence.
We are working progess and might still squeeze into the top six. Read my post properly and if we are not up next year then we should be worrying.....
I think the 'tool' bit he says is referring to me calling him a tool.

Pardew Out: For clarification, the 'tool' reference was a light hearted jibe at your ambitions of achieving the impossible. It was not meant as a personal insult so I am glad you think it is not a great insult as that is the whole point of it. I would disagree with you tho, you are not a chainsaw, you do not have that level of cutting edge boom boom LOL. (you can tell all the best comedians as they finish their jokes with boom boom!)
[quote][p][bold]Saint H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint H[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saint Pete II[/bold] wrote: Pardew Out, Shaving your pubes, German Rotweiller, whatever your name is, how do you expect us to be in the top 6 already? If you turn every result since the Leeds game (as we wouldn't expect to win anyway) into a win, that gives us an extra 9 pts. That would not put us in the top 6. So what you are saying is you are expecting the impossible? What a tool! This call out from Nicola is just a motivational tactic for AP, it is not a show of loss of faith in him.[/p][/quote]St Pete at last some sense. I knew from my earlier comments that this article would bring out the muppets. Stability is king and the centre of the Swiss Business plan. You quick fix merchants have no clue,no bloody clue,do you run businesses with budgets?bet you just want to go and buy everyone a la Real Madrid. We are doing ok and let's enjoy a good week and then so what we can do in the league. We have to play at the top teams,mostly at home and they become 6 pointers for better reasons than we were so used to in days gone by. Play offs will be the icing on our cake this year GET REAL![/p][/quote]"tool"?yeah thats right im a chainsaw.good insult mate. now,listen up.................. ......my major problem with sir alan of pardew is he cannot get the team working hard enough.so many times ive seen us play this year ive caught players just wondering around.we have no dirty players in the team.how many time have we lost the lead this season?with the hard earned money spent we should be top 6.fact.his tactics are inept.he needed to sign a pacy striker.istead he got barnard.DO YOU LOT ACTUALLY FEEL PARDEW DOES NO WRONG?DO YOU GO TO GAMES?DO YOU FIND LAZYNESS IN THE TEAM ACCEPTABLE?BAD TACTICS?IF SO YOU ARE NO FANS.[/p][/quote]Yes i am a season ticket holder and noboby is without criticism including me so please refrain from calling me a tool thanks. you obviously live in the quick fix society and are either someone else on here in diguise or related to him. Last week there was a big ruck on here and I am not about to start another war but don't insult my intelligence. We are working progess and might still squeeze into the top six. Read my post properly and if we are not up next year then we should be worrying.....[/p][/quote]I think the 'tool' bit he says is referring to me calling him a tool. Pardew Out: For clarification, the 'tool' reference was a light hearted jibe at your ambitions of achieving the impossible. It was not meant as a personal insult so I am glad you think it is not a great insult as that is the whole point of it. I would disagree with you tho, you are not a chainsaw, you do not have that level of cutting edge boom boom LOL. (you can tell all the best comedians as they finish their jokes with boom boom!) Saint Pete II
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2:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

7saint7 wrote:
south west saint wrote: At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).
a growing band of supporters what you and PARDEW OUT lol get real ! you two skates don't fool me. AP is the man for the job if what said is true ? so we spent 2mill we made 1mill in cup run plus all the gate money as the fans have been flooding back.if what Nicola Cortese said is true it's two simply try and encourage AP and the players to do better and keep the fan's coming. get real will you play-off is just a maybe a trip to Wembley is must the rest is a plus. COYR
zzzzzzzzzz your obviously on dinner break at school, if you took the time to read the posts you will see most of them are unhappy with pardew, and for your infomation i have never called for AP to be sacked, but i think your new on here?? he just needs to motovate the players more and get his tactics right! So how does that post make me a skate???
[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).[/p][/quote]a growing band of supporters what you and PARDEW OUT lol get real ! you two skates don't fool me. AP is the man for the job if what said is true ? so we spent 2mill we made 1mill in cup run plus all the gate money as the fans have been flooding back.if what Nicola Cortese said is true it's two simply try and encourage AP and the players to do better and keep the fan's coming. get real will you play-off is just a maybe a trip to Wembley is must the rest is a plus. COYR[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzz your obviously on dinner break at school, if you took the time to read the posts you will see most of them are unhappy with pardew, and for your infomation i have never called for AP to be sacked, but i think your new on here?? he just needs to motovate the players more and get his tactics right! So how does that post make me a skate??? south west saint
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3:19pm Mon 8 Feb 10

KyleGraham says...

We're are not going to get in the play offs, unless we win 15 games which is a bit unrealistic but still possible. So in my eyes we should be building a team to get automatic promotion next season. You need a month or two to get the team fully bonding and getting the team working off each other. For me we should focus on winning the Johnstone Paint Trophy and beating Pompey. Give Pards time! And we need Hammond back because we can't have Wotton and James playing in centre mid, those two lack in attacking flair, pace, strength... so us having two defensive mids doesnt work. Get Hammond back in for MK Dons and Pompey.

COYR!
We're are not going to get in the play offs, unless we win 15 games which is a bit unrealistic but still possible. So in my eyes we should be building a team to get automatic promotion next season. You need a month or two to get the team fully bonding and getting the team working off each other. For me we should focus on winning the Johnstone Paint Trophy and beating Pompey. Give Pards time! And we need Hammond back because we can't have Wotton and James playing in centre mid, those two lack in attacking flair, pace, strength... so us having two defensive mids doesnt work. Get Hammond back in for MK Dons and Pompey. COYR! KyleGraham
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3:20pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Ross96 says...

ok ok. We'll do better if he plays 4-4-2. ITS THAT EASY! Lets not do a QPR though
ok ok. We'll do better if he plays 4-4-2. ITS THAT EASY! Lets not do a QPR though Ross96
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3:23pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Aston-Clinton-Saint says...

We all at times need a kick up the backside when it comes to work, but it seems that when the echo overstep the mark and get banned from SFC, all they do is print comments either taken out of context or print rubbish on a par with The Mirror! Why don't the echo go full hog and make Jordan or Kerry Katona headline news??? We should all remember where we were last year as a club and that the play-offs were a distant hope. All I say is that the echo should make their peace with SFC and bring back Graham Hiley!!!!
We all at times need a kick up the backside when it comes to work, but it seems that when the echo overstep the mark and get banned from SFC, all they do is print comments either taken out of context or print rubbish on a par with The Mirror! Why don't the echo go full hog and make Jordan or Kerry Katona headline news??? We should all remember where we were last year as a club and that the play-offs were a distant hope. All I say is that the echo should make their peace with SFC and bring back Graham Hiley!!!! Aston-Clinton-Saint
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3:28pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Rowester says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.
I was one that did agree with you,the football hasnt been good-we should not be grinding out results we should be getting at teams and start playing attacking football...we have the players but if their not allowed to express themselves than we get the type of performances that we have been witnessing lately.I dont want AP to fail but he needs to get this team fired up for a big push for the playoffs...its not impossible,just very unlikely.Good luck to the lads tomorrow....COYR
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: Well well well........i said on saturday that alan pardew has spent more than any other league 1 club,yet still he plays boring football,bad tactics and no results.All you happy clappy brigade must be eating a huge slice of humble pie today.cortese is not stupid,he knows this is not good enough.hopefully if we lose at norwich pardew will be out,and we can get someone who will turn us around.COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!THANK YOU CORTESE.[/p][/quote]I was one that did agree with you,the football hasnt been good-we should not be grinding out results we should be getting at teams and start playing attacking football...we have the players but if their not allowed to express themselves than we get the type of performances that we have been witnessing lately.I dont want AP to fail but he needs to get this team fired up for a big push for the playoffs...its not impossible,just very unlikely.Good luck to the lads tomorrow....COYR Rowester
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3:43pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Bassett Boy says...

Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real!
The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners.
It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments.
He & the team have got to start delivering and soon!
We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us.
3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment.
The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table.
Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!)
Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion.
The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet.
I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away.
Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out! Bassett Boy
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3:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

Bassett Boy wrote:
Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
[quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!! south west saint
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4:01pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Traceyf says...

I've never been entirely convinced by Alan Pardew as I feel there are better managers out there. For me Steve Coppel would have been first choice but for all we know he may have been offered the position and turned it down.

Maybe the new players do just need to settle in to the team but there does seem to be a lack of motivation creeping in and some poor tactical decissions like playing 4-5-1 when an attacking formation would have been better.

I think Alan Pardew is an OK manager and made the right choices of which new players to sign, I think he has done a good job to lift the teams confidence and the expectations of the fans but direction seems to have been lost somewhat and if Nicola Corteses remarks can help get things back on track then that is a good thing.

As I said, I am not entirely convinced by Alan Pardew but he is our manager I think we should all support him (that doesn't mean agree with all that he does) and offer constructive criticism rather than shout "PARDEW OUT" because we don't want another 'merry go round' of managers to destablize things.
I've never been entirely convinced by Alan Pardew as I feel there are better managers out there. For me Steve Coppel would have been first choice but for all we know he may have been offered the position and turned it down. Maybe the new players do just need to settle in to the team but there does seem to be a lack of motivation creeping in and some poor tactical decissions like playing 4-5-1 when an attacking formation would have been better. I think Alan Pardew is an OK manager and made the right choices of which new players to sign, I think he has done a good job to lift the teams confidence and the expectations of the fans but direction seems to have been lost somewhat and if Nicola Corteses remarks can help get things back on track then that is a good thing. As I said, I am not entirely convinced by Alan Pardew but he is our manager I think we should all support him (that doesn't mean agree with all that he does) and offer constructive criticism rather than shout "PARDEW OUT" because we don't want another 'merry go round' of managers to destablize things. Traceyf
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4:24pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

why dont the negative people on here focus on things they can do something about.like being more positive instead of saying they dont like pardew or the way he plays and three draws is not good enough,you people wouldnt be happy if we won the champions league it would still be we didnt play the right way or didnt score enough goals.we have lost only twice in 26 games! wake up yes get real we are on the up,we reached rock bottom in the summer .we have a great chairman with a plan,a 5 year plan not a 7 month plan and we have a good manager and a good squad of players.all we need now is to get them to gel,go on a run and you never know unless of course you championship managers out there have already played out the season and of course we never made the play-offs because virtual pardew out never made the right subs or didnt play 442!
why dont the negative people on here focus on things they can do something about.like being more positive instead of saying they dont like pardew or the way he plays and three draws is not good enough,you people wouldnt be happy if we won the champions league it would still be we didnt play the right way or didnt score enough goals.we have lost only twice in 26 games! wake up yes get real we are on the up,we reached rock bottom in the summer .we have a great chairman with a plan,a 5 year plan not a 7 month plan and we have a good manager and a good squad of players.all we need now is to get them to gel,go on a run and you never know unless of course you championship managers out there have already played out the season and of course we never made the play-offs because virtual pardew out never made the right subs or didnt play 442! stmartin65
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4:31pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Rowester says...

south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed! Rowester
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4:40pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Paul Lucas says...

saint_in_Finland wrote:
stmartin65 wrote:
i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.
Nice to see a true supporter with the 100% right attitude!! totally agree great post
!!
Great post STM65 - wholeheartedly agree!

There are so many good points on here; so many good opinions and reasons as to why we are not playiing so well at the moment. I believe we have started to stutter for the following reasons:
1. Murty & Connelly became injured
2. AP's run in the cup comps went further than he thought they would.
3. Now needs 3 different teams due to cup tied players.
4. Hammonds injury has impacted more that at first thought
5. Spidermans red card yet again disrupted midfield
6. Winter snow disruption of training
7. Teams have become used to our players the systems we play
8. New players who, although skilful, are taking time to gel - in one of 3 teams!
9. AP has got it wrong on ocassions
10. The cups have been a distraction. A higher place in the league would have been achieved if we had not got caught up in Wembley fever.

Those are just a few reasons I feel for our poor performances. I wasnt't 100% OK with AP being selected as manager but you have to go with the board, the people who have put the money up. So to all the AP boo boys, give him a break and judge him at the end of the season.

For what it's worth I don't think NC should be washing the dirty laundry in public - he could have spoken with AP on one of their weekly meets.

COYRS!!!!

s-w Tone-Same
[quote][p][bold]saint_in_Finland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.[/p][/quote]Nice to see a true supporter with the 100% right attitude!! totally agree great post !![/p][/quote]Great post STM65 - wholeheartedly agree! There are so many good points on here; so many good opinions and reasons as to why we are not playiing so well at the moment. I believe we have started to stutter for the following reasons: 1. Murty & Connelly became injured 2. AP's run in the cup comps went further than he thought they would. 3. Now needs 3 different teams due to cup tied players. 4. Hammonds injury has impacted more that at first thought 5. Spidermans red card yet again disrupted midfield 6. Winter snow disruption of training 7. Teams have become used to our players the systems we play 8. New players who, although skilful, are taking time to gel - in one of 3 teams! 9. AP has got it wrong on ocassions 10. The cups have been a distraction. A higher place in the league would have been achieved if we had not got caught up in Wembley fever. Those are just a few reasons I feel for our poor performances. I wasnt't 100% OK with AP being selected as manager but you have to go with the board, the people who have put the money up. So to all the AP boo boys, give him a break and judge him at the end of the season. For what it's worth I don't think NC should be washing the dirty laundry in public - he could have spoken with AP on one of their weekly meets. COYRS!!!! s-w Tone-Same [yes, from some!!] Paul Lucas
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4:51pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

paul those are very well made thought out sensible points and i agree with with you 100 percent.especially your points about connelly and hammond they are very influential players who give us something extra but im sure the players that have come in will also do a good job in the coming months.anyone who watched us last year will know that all the players we have bought are better than the ones we already had its just that some people have very short memories.i for one remember a games last season where not only did we only play one up front but we never had another forward to bring on!
paul those are very well made thought out sensible points and i agree with with you 100 percent.especially your points about connelly and hammond they are very influential players who give us something extra but im sure the players that have come in will also do a good job in the coming months.anyone who watched us last year will know that all the players we have bought are better than the ones we already had its just that some people have very short memories.i for one remember a games last season where not only did we only play one up front but we never had another forward to bring on! stmartin65
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4:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Shareholder says...

Ah, the fickle minds of the football supporter. What I know is this. Last July I was convinced the team I've supported for over 50 years was going to go to the wall. Then we were saved but still had minus 10 points and a bunch of underperforming players, most of whom didn't want to be at the club. Then along comes Pardew who in short order creates a team that overcomes the points deficit but still lacks play off stature. The comes the transfer window and we spend £2m but it takes time to bed players in. Agreed, some of the selections have been strange - Mills getting the nod over Harding and Otsemobor even playing let alone keeping Thomas out after his Ipswich performance being but two of them. Nevertheless, reaching the play-offs was always a tall order. Without the 10 point deduction and with a settled team we'd be well placed though.

I think Mr. Cortese needs to learn to walk before he can run. Most sensible fans would, like me, think getting so far in the cups and ending in the top half of the division is a remarkable achievement and one I happily accept after the traumas of last year. If, after 10 games of next season, Pardew isn't delivering then maybe that's the time to pile on the pressure. In the meantime he signed up for a five year plan and whatever he or Mr Cortese may have thought about reaching the play-offs since doing it this year wasn't in that plan.

I suggest we carry on enjoying the fun this season has brought, that Mr. Cortese gets his head around the local significance in this weekend's Derby game and that we cheer and cheer and cheer. I'm grateful we're alive and grateful I can still watch my team play football. I'm content to leave the angst and anger of not getting to the play-offs to another day and for the team to win as many matches and get as close as possible this year.

Thanks Messrs Liebherr and Cortese for saving our club but take your time, stick to your plan and don't rush to become like any other owner or Chairman and start sacking people when things don't go according to plan - especially when they don't go according to plan 12 months early!
Ah, the fickle minds of the football supporter. What I know is this. Last July I was convinced the team I've supported for over 50 years was going to go to the wall. Then we were saved but still had minus 10 points and a bunch of underperforming players, most of whom didn't want to be at the club. Then along comes Pardew who in short order creates a team that overcomes the points deficit but still lacks play off stature. The comes the transfer window and we spend £2m but it takes time to bed players in. Agreed, some of the selections have been strange - Mills getting the nod over Harding and Otsemobor even playing let alone keeping Thomas out after his Ipswich performance being but two of them. Nevertheless, reaching the play-offs was always a tall order. Without the 10 point deduction and with a settled team we'd be well placed though. I think Mr. Cortese needs to learn to walk before he can run. Most sensible fans would, like me, think getting so far in the cups and ending in the top half of the division is a remarkable achievement and one I happily accept after the traumas of last year. If, after 10 games of next season, Pardew isn't delivering then maybe that's the time to pile on the pressure. In the meantime he signed up for a five year plan and whatever he or Mr Cortese may have thought about reaching the play-offs since doing it this year wasn't in that plan. I suggest we carry on enjoying the fun this season has brought, that Mr. Cortese gets his head around the local significance in this weekend's Derby game and that we cheer and cheer and cheer. I'm grateful we're alive and grateful I can still watch my team play football. I'm content to leave the angst and anger of not getting to the play-offs to another day and for the team to win as many matches and get as close as possible this year. Thanks Messrs Liebherr and Cortese for saving our club but take your time, stick to your plan and don't rush to become like any other owner or Chairman and start sacking people when things don't go according to plan - especially when they don't go according to plan 12 months early! Shareholder
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5:02pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Southampton boy says...

Sorry but it sounds to me people are getting in patient what happen to the 5 year plan? If we get it right this year we go into the championship as champions.
This year has always been about building a team for the future it was always a dream to make the play offs this year as I have said in the past we have had too many new players come on in all need to gel, my only worry would be if at the end of the season they all decide to leave or some of them, they need to be committed to this team and to Southampton as much as we the fans, and not just think of the money.
As someone has said the other teams need to drop points if we were going to make the play offs and sometime back I said the 76 points would not be enough to make the play offs.
So lets get to Wembley this year and lets take the Blues out on Saturday and make it somewhere near the play offs and build a team to take this division apart next year.
COYR's
Sorry but it sounds to me people are getting in patient what happen to the 5 year plan? If we get it right this year we go into the championship as champions. This year has always been about building a team for the future it was always a dream to make the play offs this year as I have said in the past we have had too many new players come on in all need to gel, my only worry would be if at the end of the season they all decide to leave or some of them, they need to be committed to this team and to Southampton as much as we the fans, and not just think of the money. As someone has said the other teams need to drop points if we were going to make the play offs and sometime back I said the 76 points would not be enough to make the play offs. So lets get to Wembley this year and lets take the Blues out on Saturday and make it somewhere near the play offs and build a team to take this division apart next year. COYR's Southampton boy
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5:05pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
[quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts? SomersetSaint
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5:09pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

SomersetSaint wrote:
Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
im sure there will be someone who disputes it!!
[quote][p][bold]SomersetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?[/p][/quote]im sure there will be someone who disputes it!! south west saint
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5:10pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Sadoldgitte says...

This worries me. It is all very well having these discussions behind closed doors but by making it public it puts a lot more pressure on the management and team. What happened to the 5 year plan? You can't just buy promotion and we are still well of the pace of the likes of Leeds and Norwich. But considering how poor we were last year it is good to see us with so few losses. For all the reason we know, the play offs this year was always going to be a tough ask. Without Pinnacle maybe we would have had a better start, but that is done. We still have a way to go as well as we have done this season and I hope that Mr Cortese remain patient and realises that building a decent team takes time. We have a good manager, let him do his job and don't make unrealistic demands.
This worries me. It is all very well having these discussions behind closed doors but by making it public it puts a lot more pressure on the management and team. What happened to the 5 year plan? You can't just buy promotion and we are still well of the pace of the likes of Leeds and Norwich. But considering how poor we were last year it is good to see us with so few losses. For all the reason we know, the play offs this year was always going to be a tough ask. Without Pinnacle maybe we would have had a better start, but that is done. We still have a way to go as well as we have done this season and I hope that Mr Cortese remain patient and realises that building a decent team takes time. We have a good manager, let him do his job and don't make unrealistic demands. Sadoldgitte
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5:11pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Mike_Saint says...

SomersetSaint wrote:
Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
What a great post if only I could have put it so well!

COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow!
[quote][p][bold]SomersetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?[/p][/quote]What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow! Mike_Saint
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5:12pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

shareholder,plymouth well said !another good positive post with sensible comments.at last true saints fans with realistic aims an understanding of long term ambitions.things are on the up!cant wait for tommorrows match though!
"whatever will be will be we re going to wembley,k-sera sera!"
shareholder,plymouth well said !another good positive post with sensible comments.at last true saints fans with realistic aims an understanding of long term ambitions.things are on the up!cant wait for tommorrows match though! "whatever will be will be we re going to wembley,k-sera sera!" stmartin65
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5:38pm Mon 8 Feb 10

mack chinnon says...

stmartin65 wrote:
i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.
Good man
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: i never went saturday but i have been to all the home games and several away trips.i also went to away games last year and without doubt i can tell you that whilst we may be in a lower division unlike last year we do not look like we are going to get beat every week.im disappointed when we dont win but im also realistic to know that you cant win every game and that is the problem with most people that post on here they expect instant success.i dont always agree with pardew descions but i dont see anyone praising him when he makes the right ones.its too easy to say its the managers fault,footballs more complex than that or is it just a game that needs to be played simply?anyway i will be going tommorrow night and saturday and the saturday after and i will continue to go until they put me in a red and white box and bury me.i will always be a true saints supporter,win lose or draw.[/p][/quote]Good man mack chinnon
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5:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied !
we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows.
personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)
to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o) slugger
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5:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

mack chinnon says...

slugger wrote:
to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)
That was lucky.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)[/p][/quote]That was lucky. mack chinnon
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6:01pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

mack chinnon wrote:
slugger wrote: to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)
That was lucky.
pure skill mate.....left you for dead !
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)[/p][/quote]That was lucky.[/p][/quote]pure skill mate.....left you for dead ! slugger
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6:03pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

thats the problem slugger ! its that word again expectancy! i suppose you expect to get 80 points next week? well guess what you only as good as your last game but will not be expecting you to get 80 points next week but it doesnt make you a bad player.
thats the problem slugger ! its that word again expectancy! i suppose you expect to get 80 points next week? well guess what you only as good as your last game but will not be expecting you to get 80 points next week but it doesnt make you a bad player. stmartin65
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6:08pm Mon 8 Feb 10

E-M27 says...

Mike_Saint wrote:
SomersetSaint wrote:
Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow!
I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on.
I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin.
I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for.
A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all.
If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season.
If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion.
We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress.
Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need.
Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league
The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land.
You all know it and so do I
COYR!!!
WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN
[quote][p][bold]Mike_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SomersetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?[/p][/quote]What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow![/p][/quote]I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on. I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin. I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for. A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all. If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season. If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion. We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress. Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need. Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land. You all know it and so do I COYR!!! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN E-M27
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6:10pm Mon 8 Feb 10

THE REALISTIC SAINT says...

SORRY CORTESE.....A WIN AT NORWICH, VERY NICE BUT LETS GET REAL....THEY ARE RUNNING AWAY WITH THE LEAGUE ON THIER FORM TALK ABOUT PRESSURE, I THOUGHT WE HAD A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO STABALISE THE CLUB WITH NO CHANGE OF BOSS EVERY SIX MONTHS.........YOUR A GREAT GUY BUT LETS NOT PANIC AFTERALL YOU BOUGHT PRESSURE ON YOURSELF BY REDUCING THE PLAN TO THREE YEARS......HOW MANY DEFEATS HAS HE HAD.....I THINK AFTER LAST YEARS EVENTS A LOT OF CLUBS WOULD BE VERY, VERY, VERY HAPPY IN THE POSITION WE ARE IN NOW
SORRY CORTESE.....A WIN AT NORWICH, VERY NICE BUT LETS GET REAL....THEY ARE RUNNING AWAY WITH THE LEAGUE ON THIER FORM TALK ABOUT PRESSURE, I THOUGHT WE HAD A FIVE YEAR PLAN TO STABALISE THE CLUB WITH NO CHANGE OF BOSS EVERY SIX MONTHS.........YOUR A GREAT GUY BUT LETS NOT PANIC AFTERALL YOU BOUGHT PRESSURE ON YOURSELF BY REDUCING THE PLAN TO THREE YEARS......HOW MANY DEFEATS HAS HE HAD.....I THINK AFTER LAST YEARS EVENTS A LOT OF CLUBS WOULD BE VERY, VERY, VERY HAPPY IN THE POSITION WE ARE IN NOW THE REALISTIC SAINT
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6:11pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

stmartin65 wrote:
thats the problem slugger ! its that word again expectancy! i suppose you expect to get 80 points next week? well guess what you only as good as your last game but will not be expecting you to get 80 points next week but it doesnt make you a bad player.
exactly !....were on a poor run of form at the mo (not losing though)....to me that says it all,we EXPECT to win and play well every game.....how things have changed for us in real terms............oh and if i can top 80 points this week i'll be a happy bunny !
just got this gut feeling that it may come together against the blue few,oh i can't wait !!!!!!
COYR !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: thats the problem slugger ! its that word again expectancy! i suppose you expect to get 80 points next week? well guess what you only as good as your last game but will not be expecting you to get 80 points next week but it doesnt make you a bad player.[/p][/quote]exactly !....were on a poor run of form at the mo (not losing though)....to me that says it all,we EXPECT to win and play well every game.....how things have changed for us in real terms............oh and if i can top 80 points this week i'll be a happy bunny ! just got this gut feeling that it may come together against the blue few,oh i can't wait !!!!!! COYR !!!!! slugger
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6:24pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

i think we will come out all guns blazing tommorrow we must nt worrie about the dons they have got to be one of the poorests teams to visit st marys this season yet there manager thought they deserved more,we wouldnt expect any less from him though would we.im going for 4-0 we are going to have some very motivated and experienced players on the pitch and they all want to play at wembley so im confident,cant wait wembley,wembley !
i think we will come out all guns blazing tommorrow we must nt worrie about the dons they have got to be one of the poorests teams to visit st marys this season yet there manager thought they deserved more,we wouldnt expect any less from him though would we.im going for 4-0 we are going to have some very motivated and experienced players on the pitch and they all want to play at wembley so im confident,cant wait wembley,wembley ! stmartin65
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6:27pm Mon 8 Feb 10

mack chinnon says...

What if we do get to the play-offs and dont win.Will it still be " Pardew out"???
What if we do get to the play-offs and dont win.Will it still be " Pardew out"??? mack chinnon
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6:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

mack chinnon wrote:
What if we do get to the play-offs and dont win.Will it still be " Pardew out"???
if (and it's a big one)we make it,then we'll win,no doubt in my mind whatsoever because in order to do it , we will have put on one of the best run-ins ever seen.....we'll be unbeatable !!!!
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: What if we do get to the play-offs and dont win.Will it still be " Pardew out"???[/p][/quote]if (and it's a big one)we make it,then we'll win,no doubt in my mind whatsoever because in order to do it , we will have put on one of the best run-ins ever seen.....we'll be unbeatable !!!! slugger
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6:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

normsted says...

south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote:
Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Really !!!! So were all expecting a squad of players who have just met to to set the world alight.... No No NO it will take time,if you are in the camp of "I want success now "with all due respect you are in cuckoo land, give them time to bed in/gel and the results will come.
I bet that in 3 or 4 games time you and others will be playing a different tune,and hailing AP as the real deal, remember,5 year plan-5 year plan,5 year plan.
Did you really expect promotion this season ?
The only issues is with certain impatient fans getting impatient.
there is no Quick fix,5 year plan, ---buy in or ship out .
Quick message to all the groaners-if you are so smart ,what would you have done differently ?,weve bought every available player of any note,then just after they,ve met each other you start moaning they are not good enough,your becoming a joke.
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Really !!!! So were all expecting a squad of players who have just met to to set the world alight.... No No NO it will take time,if you are in the camp of "I want success now "with all due respect you are in cuckoo land, give them time to bed in/gel and the results will come. I bet that in 3 or 4 games time you and others will be playing a different tune,and hailing AP as the real deal, remember,5 year plan-5 year plan,5 year plan. Did you really expect promotion this season ? The only issues is with certain impatient fans getting impatient. there is no Quick fix,5 year plan, ---buy in or ship out . Quick message to all the groaners-if you are so smart ,what would you have done differently ?,weve bought every available player of any note,then just after they,ve met each other you start moaning they are not good enough,your becoming a joke. normsted
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6:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.
mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas. stmartin65
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6:34pm Mon 8 Feb 10

mack chinnon says...

slugger wrote:
mack chinnon wrote:
slugger wrote: to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)
That was lucky.
pure skill mate.....left you for dead !
Cant make it tomorrow night Amigo BUT, c u Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: to be honest,i'd be much more supprised if nicola had said he WAS satisfied ! we all expect better results (at least we all agree on that)........this isn't a critasism of the manager,more a shot across the bows. personally i belive the results and performances will improve,hopefully starting tomorrow and building for saturday.....ps i got 80 points in the telegraph fantasy football last week,so i do know what i'm talking about !!!! ;o)[/p][/quote]That was lucky.[/p][/quote]pure skill mate.....left you for dead ![/p][/quote]Cant make it tomorrow night Amigo BUT, c u Saturday. mack chinnon
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6:48pm Mon 8 Feb 10

normsted says...

stmartin65 wrote:
mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.
Best and most "realistic" post of the day.................
[quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.[/p][/quote]Best and most "realistic" post of the day................. normsted
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7:02pm Mon 8 Feb 10

truelysaints says...

Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.
Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now. truelysaints
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7:06pm Mon 8 Feb 10

SFC-WILL says...

Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR
Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR SFC-WILL
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7:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Rowester says...

E-M27 wrote:
Mike_Saint wrote:
SomersetSaint wrote:
Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow!
I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on. I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin. I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for. A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all. If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season. If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion. We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress. Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need. Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land. You all know it and so do I COYR!!! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN
Wembley final....Beat the shi*e down the road & a top 10 finish(Maybe 8th) i think we would have settled for that at the start of the season.....best part of 30,000 there fo The MKDons game tomorrow says it all regarding the fantastic fans........Best Supported club in the south by a country mile...lets get behind the lads & the manager,make it a night to remember.As for saturday lets raise the roof & show that shower of shi*e down the road how to fill a stadium & Make some noise.RED ARMY! RED ARMY.COME ON YOU REDS! ..COME ON YOU REDS! Sorry about that getting rather excited.
[quote][p][bold]E-M27[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SomersetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?[/p][/quote]What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow![/p][/quote]I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on. I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin. I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for. A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all. If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season. If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion. We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress. Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need. Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land. You all know it and so do I COYR!!! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN[/p][/quote]Wembley final....Beat the shi*e down the road & a top 10 finish(Maybe 8th) i think we would have settled for that at the start of the season.....best part of 30,000 there fo The MKDons game tomorrow says it all regarding the fantastic fans........Best Supported club in the south by a country mile...lets get behind the lads & the manager,make it a night to remember.As for saturday lets raise the roof & show that shower of shi*e down the road how to fill a stadium & Make some noise.RED ARMY! RED ARMY.COME ON YOU REDS! ..COME ON YOU REDS! Sorry about that getting rather excited. Rowester
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7:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Rowester says...

E-M27 wrote:
Mike_Saint wrote:
SomersetSaint wrote:
Rowester wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Bassett Boy wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out!
Best post of the day!!
Agreed!
Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?
What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow!
I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on. I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin. I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for. A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all. If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season. If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion. We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress. Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need. Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land. You all know it and so do I COYR!!! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN
Wembley final....Beat the shi*e down the road & a top 10 finish(Maybe 8th) i think we would have settled for that at the start of the season.....best part of 30,000 there fo The MKDons game tomorrow says it all regarding the fantastic fans........Best Supported club in the south by a country mile...lets get behind the lads & the manager,make it a night to remember.As for saturday lets raise the roof & show that shower of shi*e down the road how to fill a stadium & Make some noise.RED ARMY! RED ARMY.COME ON YOU REDS! ..COME ON YOU REDS! Sorry about that getting rather excited.
[quote][p][bold]E-M27[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike_Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SomersetSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rowester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bassett Boy[/bold] wrote: Without resorting to insults or personal critisism of "posters", "players" or the manager, we have to get real! The fact of the matter is we are not getting the results we are expecting from this squad. The fans are dissapointed and so too are the owners. It's no use sticking up for Pardew with the blanket "right man for the job" comments. He & the team have got to start delivering and soon! We are 15 points off the play-offs, that's NOT five wins as someone said in an earlier post but five wins MORE than everyone above us. 3 consecutive 1-1 away draws (in which we had the lead in all of them) is not a good enough return on the investment. The recent win against Stockport was absolute rubbish in terms of quality of football and if we continue playing like that against the better teams in the league we will be slipping backwards not moving up the table. Whether it's tactics, team selection, lack of bottle etc that is the problem is not for me to decide (if I knew what to do I'd be the manager not a spectator!) Whatever the cause it MUST get sorted soon or Mr Pardew will find himself unemployed, FACT not my opinion. The fans have been great this season, but it's not really being matched by the team as yet. I'm looking forward to a Wembley appearance and some much improved consistent performances over 90 mins and if they don't start coming soon the fans will start to drift away. Excuses only work for so long after that you either shape-up or ship-out![/p][/quote]Best post of the day!![/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]Basset Boy perfectly sums up my feelings too, so that's at least 4 of us in agreement! I don't want to see AP fail and I stop short of calling for his head, however league results must improve. To draw 3 consecutive away games after taking the lead in each is almost unforgiveable, the first half against Stockport was woeful and surely no one can dispute these facts?[/p][/quote]What a great post if only I could have put it so well! COYS lets get it right and start clawing are way up that table after securing a Wembley appearance tomorrow![/p][/quote]I went to Exeter and posted some of my opinions on Sunday which were similar to Bassett boys who's post is spot on. I am going tomorrow and on Saturday and will continue to support Saints through thick and thin. I will be singing at the top of my voice as usual and hope we manage to get the results we all crave for. A Wembley Final will be brilliant for everyone attached to Saints at the end of the season which could end up being the cherry on top or just a fabulous day out for us all. If we were to make the playoffs then that would be the icing and cream at the end of a great season. If we don't then the JPT will be a nice end to a season that has had it's ups and downs but we would hopefully be ready for the following season and automatic promotion. We need to rally together for Tuesday night to get the Wembley date in the bank and out of the way of our League progress. Saints fans will already be up for the cup game on Saturday in which we can progress if we act as the twelth man and get right behind the side so they can get the momentum they need. Then we need to keep the brilliant support we've had all season and reignite the passion throughout the side and hopefully push on up the league The skates on the news site are loving us bickering with each other on this forum so let's stand together and sing our hearts out for the lads and let everyone know (especially the fish fiddlers) we are the best supporters in the land. You all know it and so do I COYR!!! WE ARE SOUTHAMPTON THE PRIDE OF THE SOUTH SO LET'S ALL BE PROUD TOGETHER AS ONE UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN[/p][/quote]Wembley final....Beat the shi*e down the road & a top 10 finish(Maybe 8th) i think we would have settled for that at the start of the season.....best part of 30,000 there fo The MKDons game tomorrow says it all regarding the fantastic fans........Best Supported club in the south by a country mile...lets get behind the lads & the manager,make it a night to remember.As for saturday lets raise the roof & show that shower of shi*e down the road how to fill a stadium & Make some noise.RED ARMY! RED ARMY.COME ON YOU REDS! ..COME ON YOU REDS! Sorry about that getting rather excited. Rowester
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7:08pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people! Baddesley Bill
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7:09pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

normsted thanks for your comments i know technically we probably cant win the title in december but i do believe we will be playing championship football in 2011-2012 season.just like manchester city and fulham i also believe the saints will rise like the pheonix from the flames and in 2012-2013 we will be back where we belong!the premiership awaits.sorry getting a bit carried away,too much red bull.
normsted thanks for your comments i know technically we probably cant win the title in december but i do believe we will be playing championship football in 2011-2012 season.just like manchester city and fulham i also believe the saints will rise like the pheonix from the flames and in 2012-2013 we will be back where we belong!the premiership awaits.sorry getting a bit carried away,too much red bull. stmartin65
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7:18pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

normsted wrote:
stmartin65 wrote:
mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.
Best and most "realistic" post of the day.................
Well said.

I must say that I'm starting to get disillusioned with the negative slant of all the recent Saints Echo coverage.

I do wish the owners of the paper would sort it out.
[quote][p][bold]normsted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.[/p][/quote]Best and most "realistic" post of the day.................[/p][/quote]Well said. I must say that I'm starting to get disillusioned with the negative slant of all the recent Saints Echo coverage. I do wish the owners of the paper would sort it out. Tirau Dan
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7:27pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

to be honest dan i dont mind want slant the echo takes its upto to them to sell papers but its up to us to support saints through thick and thin.the good thing is there are lots of people on here that do believe and even when things are not going to plan still believe.we are saints fans we have experienced the good the bad and rupert,so no matter what we will always be red and white.apart from next year when we have the annerversary kit with the red sashie thing.
to be honest dan i dont mind want slant the echo takes its upto to them to sell papers but its up to us to support saints through thick and thin.the good thing is there are lots of people on here that do believe and even when things are not going to plan still believe.we are saints fans we have experienced the good the bad and rupert,so no matter what we will always be red and white.apart from next year when we have the annerversary kit with the red sashie thing. stmartin65
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7:27pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so. south west saint
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7:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

people on here are still having a go at the so called moaners, but now even NC has seen whats going on and told AP he needs to buck his ideas up! so does that mean NC should pack his bags and go??? i think not!!!
people on here are still having a go at the so called moaners, but now even NC has seen whats going on and told AP he needs to buck his ideas up! so does that mean NC should pack his bags and go??? i think not!!! south west saint
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7:37pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Brite Spark says...

Cortese (thanks for the coffee the other morning Nicola) is making a fair statement - our progress up the table has reached a haitus, too many draws of late, and maybe exciting as it is, the cups are causing something of a distraction. There is only one way to put this right of course, win our next 2 matches (cup games!) and then knock the canaries off their perch.
Cortese (thanks for the coffee the other morning Nicola) is making a fair statement - our progress up the table has reached a haitus, too many draws of late, and maybe exciting as it is, the cups are causing something of a distraction. There is only one way to put this right of course, win our next 2 matches (cup games!) and then knock the canaries off their perch. Brite Spark
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7:39pm Mon 8 Feb 10

eaglespark says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
normsted wrote:
stmartin65 wrote:
mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.
Best and most "realistic" post of the day.................
Well said.

I must say that I'm starting to get disillusioned with the negative slant of all the recent Saints Echo coverage.

I do wish the owners of the paper would sort it out.
Is this a new Dan?
Last week when somebody moaned about the Echo,you gave them a five minute lecture on how this great website keeps all the overseas Saints together etc etc.

PS;This isn't a dig at you, just a comment on how opinions are starting to change oh here.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]normsted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stmartin65[/bold] wrote: mack you know they will always be those one gamers and a few of those less fortunates down the road that will jump on the band waggon but i truely beleive that if we get there we will win it!pardews record in play-offs is second to none.so lets hope we make it if not just ignore negative posts and enjoy the ride next season as we take the title by christmas.[/p][/quote]Best and most "realistic" post of the day.................[/p][/quote]Well said. I must say that I'm starting to get disillusioned with the negative slant of all the recent Saints Echo coverage. I do wish the owners of the paper would sort it out.[/p][/quote]Is this a new Dan? Last week when somebody moaned about the Echo,you gave them a five minute lecture on how this great website keeps all the overseas Saints together etc etc. PS;This isn't a dig at you, just a comment on how opinions are starting to change oh here. eaglespark
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7:44pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

SWS bodin .. you have been speaking negatively since the start of the pre-season and have never missed a chance to decry the manager. Never had a good word to say when they were on the way up.. You were one who thought the team was relegation bound from the start. Fan is a relatively new word.. it used to be Supporter.. in what way are you a football supported with all your incessant negative diatribe..
The story is slanted against the chairman because the Echo is peeved with him...can't you understand that.
A mis table finish is excellent this year and was the main target set at the start of the year.

If you take out the negativity - Yes everyone would like to see the new players integrated and the team show us their metal before the end of the year.. That would be a positive expectation and something to support. There may well be some changes coming but the manager will be safe but a few of the players who are missing chances and failing to deliver may well be worried.
SWS bodin .. you have been speaking negatively since the start of the pre-season and have never missed a chance to decry the manager. Never had a good word to say when they were on the way up.. You were one who thought the team was relegation bound from the start. Fan is a relatively new word.. it used to be Supporter.. in what way are you a football supported with all your incessant negative diatribe.. The story is slanted against the chairman because the Echo is peeved with him...can't you understand that. A mis table finish is excellent this year and was the main target set at the start of the year. If you take out the negativity - Yes everyone would like to see the new players integrated and the team show us their metal before the end of the year.. That would be a positive expectation and something to support. There may well be some changes coming but the manager will be safe but a few of the players who are missing chances and failing to deliver may well be worried. Tirau Dan
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7:45pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

sorry bodmin i dont see your point in anycase nc employed pardew with a view to a 5 year plan which ap has bought into but he also said that we will execute the plan with or with himself.so i dont think ap needs any reminding of the job in hand and if you listen to any of his after match interviews he is about as honest as a manager you can get.whats been going on is we have bought new players,got a few injuries to key players drawn a few games lost two in the last 26! so what we saying is theres no point in pointing out the obvious,move on and do the job we are supposed to do and that support the club we love.
sorry bodmin i dont see your point in anycase nc employed pardew with a view to a 5 year plan which ap has bought into but he also said that we will execute the plan with or with himself.so i dont think ap needs any reminding of the job in hand and if you listen to any of his after match interviews he is about as honest as a manager you can get.whats been going on is we have bought new players,got a few injuries to key players drawn a few games lost two in the last 26! so what we saying is theres no point in pointing out the obvious,move on and do the job we are supposed to do and that support the club we love. stmartin65
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7:47pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Invidia says...

Nearly all Saints fans were surprised at the beginning of the season when Nicola Cortese chose Alan Pardew as Saints new manager, as I recall he was not even in the running or on any fans list, nevertheless he was given the job by NC.
I said, when we were getting draws in the early part of the season we need to play 4-4-2, we are much more dangerous with that formation, ok we let in goals but we are still leaking goals with 4-5-1, so it would be wise to play to our strengths this is the only gripe I have with AP and his coaches, I suppose he could be blamed for being too successful by getting fans hopes and (his own) of getting to the playoff's this season, being realistic that should have been a bonus and not a priority this season, what is done is done, we are dissappointed but we are going in the right direction, any talk of change of manager is not practical and not in the best interests of the club, he would see himself as failing if he does not get into the championship at the end of next season, and I suspect that NC would share that view also.
So Saints fans just enjoy what we are about to receive.
there's an old Australian saying " you can't F@rt against thunder" now there's a thought
Nearly all Saints fans were surprised at the beginning of the season when Nicola Cortese chose Alan Pardew as Saints new manager, as I recall he was not even in the running or on any fans list, nevertheless he was given the job by NC. I said, when we were getting draws in the early part of the season we need to play 4-4-2, we are much more dangerous with that formation, ok we let in goals but we are still leaking goals with 4-5-1, so it would be wise to play to our strengths this is the only gripe I have with AP and his coaches, I suppose he could be blamed for being too successful by getting fans hopes and (his own) of getting to the playoff's this season, being realistic that should have been a bonus and not a priority this season, what is done is done, we are dissappointed but we are going in the right direction, any talk of change of manager is not practical and not in the best interests of the club, he would see himself as failing if he does not get into the championship at the end of next season, and I suspect that NC would share that view also. So Saints fans just enjoy what we are about to receive. there's an old Australian saying " you can't F@rt against thunder" now there's a thought Invidia
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7:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
both good points , if we don't get promoted next season then the manager will go for sure (jump or pushed,don't matter)but at the moment we're having a relatively good season,nicola isn't rollocking pardew,he's reminding him of the owners expectations (as if he needed reminding)i'm not a blind happy clapper (or skate)as some have said....i'm a realist who gives credit where it's due,but i will moan if i think it's due , at this moment in time i don't see where the impatient few are coming from....short memories in my oppinion !
COYR !!
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.[/p][/quote]both good points , if we don't get promoted next season then the manager will go for sure (jump or pushed,don't matter)but at the moment we're having a relatively good season,nicola isn't rollocking pardew,he's reminding him of the owners expectations (as if he needed reminding)i'm not a blind happy clapper (or skate)as some have said....i'm a realist who gives credit where it's due,but i will moan if i think it's due , at this moment in time i don't see where the impatient few are coming from....short memories in my oppinion ! COYR !! slugger
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7:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.[/p][/quote]Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys? Baddesley Bill
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7:58pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
SWS bodin .. you have been speaking negatively since the start of the pre-season and have never missed a chance to decry the manager. Never had a good word to say when they were on the way up.. You were one who thought the team was relegation bound from the start. Fan is a relatively new word.. it used to be Supporter.. in what way are you a football supported with all your incessant negative diatribe.. The story is slanted against the chairman because the Echo is peeved with him...can't you understand that. A mis table finish is excellent this year and was the main target set at the start of the year. If you take out the negativity - Yes everyone would like to see the new players integrated and the team show us their metal before the end of the year.. That would be a positive expectation and something to support. There may well be some changes coming but the manager will be safe but a few of the players who are missing chances and failing to deliver may well be worried.
i take it you mean Bodmin(bodin?), where in my last 2 posts are they negative??? and as for the Echo you only support it when it suits you and now your slagging it because it doesnt suit you! fox and hounds spring to mind! Anyway at least we agree on something and that is we love saints.
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: SWS bodin .. you have been speaking negatively since the start of the pre-season and have never missed a chance to decry the manager. Never had a good word to say when they were on the way up.. You were one who thought the team was relegation bound from the start. Fan is a relatively new word.. it used to be Supporter.. in what way are you a football supported with all your incessant negative diatribe.. The story is slanted against the chairman because the Echo is peeved with him...can't you understand that. A mis table finish is excellent this year and was the main target set at the start of the year. If you take out the negativity - Yes everyone would like to see the new players integrated and the team show us their metal before the end of the year.. That would be a positive expectation and something to support. There may well be some changes coming but the manager will be safe but a few of the players who are missing chances and failing to deliver may well be worried.[/p][/quote]i take it you mean Bodmin(bodin?), where in my last 2 posts are they negative??? and as for the Echo you only support it when it suits you and now your slagging it because it doesnt suit you! fox and hounds spring to mind! Anyway at least we agree on something and that is we love saints. south west saint
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8:04pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?
i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.[/p][/quote]Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?[/p][/quote]i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well. south west saint
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8:05pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

invidia you too make same good points but like all of us you fall into that trap when it comes to thinking we know the best formation and team to pick, its obvious.well if we were at the training sessions and we knew each player inside out and if we knew the tactics of the opposing team im sure if we asked them they would tell us!only then would we be in a position to question aps tactical nouse thats why hes a professional football manager and we play it on a computer.lets stay positive and in any case as i have said before its the players not the fornation or tactics that win you the game and when i go to st,marys tommorrow and satiurday i will be cheering the players because that is the only effect i can have on the game.come on all saints fans get behind the team and cheer them to glorious victory(twice this weeK)
invidia you too make same good points but like all of us you fall into that trap when it comes to thinking we know the best formation and team to pick, its obvious.well if we were at the training sessions and we knew each player inside out and if we knew the tactics of the opposing team im sure if we asked them they would tell us!only then would we be in a position to question aps tactical nouse thats why hes a professional football manager and we play it on a computer.lets stay positive and in any case as i have said before its the players not the fornation or tactics that win you the game and when i go to st,marys tommorrow and satiurday i will be cheering the players because that is the only effect i can have on the game.come on all saints fans get behind the team and cheer them to glorious victory(twice this weeK) stmartin65
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8:09pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Scrutinizer says...

AndyAndrews, West End says...
8:39am Mon 8 Feb 10

Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen.
Next season it's a must.

I completely agree with you 'AndyAndrews'. I can't see us reaching the Play Offs this season at all. I reckon we'll finish the season round about 11th/12th/13th, and that will be a very respectable finish, considering where we started from! Next season will be the true test of this squad (with a few new 'ins' and 'outs') and manager's ability. If we don't at least make it to the play-offs next season, then it'll be time to kiss Pardew adios and maybe half to most the squad too!
AndyAndrews, West End says... 8:39am Mon 8 Feb 10 Cortese needs to be realistic: Saints have done well to shrug off the ten point deduction but won't be in the playoffs this season. 15 points behind equals five wins. To reach the playoffs we need to keep winning AND the current teams up there need to keep losing. It won't happen. Next season it's a must. I completely agree with you 'AndyAndrews'. I can't see us reaching the Play Offs this season at all. I reckon we'll finish the season round about 11th/12th/13th, and that will be a very respectable finish, considering where we started from! Next season will be the true test of this squad (with a few new 'ins' and 'outs') and manager's ability. If we don't at least make it to the play-offs next season, then it'll be time to kiss Pardew adios and maybe half to most the squad too! Scrutinizer
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8:25pm Mon 8 Feb 10

stmartin65 says...

just to prove my point at the ipswich fa cup game i was right behind wayne thomas before he shot a beautiful half volley into the top left hand corner and me and about a thousand people behind me are claiming part of that as we told him to shoot see players do listen to fans...............
just to prove my point at the ipswich fa cup game i was right behind wayne thomas before he shot a beautiful half volley into the top left hand corner and me and about a thousand people behind me are claiming part of that as we told him to shoot see players do listen to fans............... stmartin65
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8:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Gary Clark says...

I fully understand where Nicola Cortese is coming from, however as NC and ML had a five year plan at the start of this season then expecting promotion in it's first year is to high expectations giving our summer and the pts deduction and the fact AP has brought about 13 new players in a short space of time. AP has done exactly what was expected of him moulded a very good talented team and to be mid-table is testament to AP and his management staff of the progress Saint's have achieved in these last 6 months. Saint's are entering a massive week of cup games and with a place at Wembley available on tuesday and a massive south coast derby with all the pressure on Pompey Saturday Saint's have an exciting week for all concerned at the club. Saint's have many league games ahead and anything can happen but whatever does then Saint's will have had a very good season giving our recent fortunes on and off the field, My thoughts are that I fully expect Saint's to mount a serious promotion challenge next season and that was my realistic aim at the start of this season and nothing has changed? People need to have realistic aims to expect a promotion challenge in it's first season was unrealistic but not impossible!
I fully understand where Nicola Cortese is coming from, however as NC and ML had a five year plan at the start of this season then expecting promotion in it's first year is to high expectations giving our summer and the pts deduction and the fact AP has brought about 13 new players in a short space of time. AP has done exactly what was expected of him moulded a very good talented team and to be mid-table is testament to AP and his management staff of the progress Saint's have achieved in these last 6 months. Saint's are entering a massive week of cup games and with a place at Wembley available on tuesday and a massive south coast derby with all the pressure on Pompey Saturday Saint's have an exciting week for all concerned at the club. Saint's have many league games ahead and anything can happen but whatever does then Saint's will have had a very good season giving our recent fortunes on and off the field, My thoughts are that I fully expect Saint's to mount a serious promotion challenge next season and that was my realistic aim at the start of this season and nothing has changed? People need to have realistic aims to expect a promotion challenge in it's first season was unrealistic but not impossible! Gary Clark
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8:32pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Matthew Allen says...

I have to be honest here, although the recent results in the league have not been great, they are not a disaster as we have still only lost a handful of games.
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Did anyone on here expect us to get promoted after the first 5 games we played. AP was trying to see what we were capable of; 90% of us were happy with mid table and to not be another relegation battle. The acquisitions he has made have all been fantastic.
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This is an important week for us and glad to say I’m coming down for both games this week and hope we can turn on some of the quality that we have previously shown and have all seen flashes of. We will not win the FA cup and I for one would have been happy to have lost at Ipswich, however the opportunity to turnover Poopy is just so inviting now.
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There is also an argument that says we may be better of in this league for another year so we can gel as a team and go up stronger next year. The way we are playing at the moment would not be pretty and I think we would struggle in the Championship and then be back in a relegation fight – we would not be happy with that.
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The only counter argument to this would be that Poopy are relegated, go into Administration and have to start in the Championship on -10 points and we get off to a flying start - how lovely would that be!

We have Premiership facilities, a Premiership Manager and Premiership backing from the new owner; AP just needs time to build a Premiership team and I think we all need to remember where we were in August last year and just have a little patience.
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Looking forward to the next 2 games – COYR’s
I have to be honest here, although the recent results in the league have not been great, they are not a disaster as we have still only lost a handful of games. . Did anyone on here expect us to get promoted after the first 5 games we played. AP was trying to see what we were capable of; 90% of us were happy with mid table and to not be another relegation battle. The acquisitions he has made have all been fantastic. . This is an important week for us and glad to say I’m coming down for both games this week and hope we can turn on some of the quality that we have previously shown and have all seen flashes of. We will not win the FA cup and I for one would have been happy to have lost at Ipswich, however the opportunity to turnover Poopy is just so inviting now. . There is also an argument that says we may be better of in this league for another year so we can gel as a team and go up stronger next year. The way we are playing at the moment would not be pretty and I think we would struggle in the Championship and then be back in a relegation fight – we would not be happy with that. . The only counter argument to this would be that Poopy are relegated, go into Administration and have to start in the Championship on -10 points and we get off to a flying start - how lovely would that be! We have Premiership facilities, a Premiership Manager and Premiership backing from the new owner; AP just needs time to build a Premiership team and I think we all need to remember where we were in August last year and just have a little patience. . Looking forward to the next 2 games – COYR’s Matthew Allen
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8:33pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?
i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well.
Which brings me back to my point SWS....if AP's deal was to get us up in two...and given that we are progressing (all be it not fast enough for a some)...why are we even discussing losing him?...this conversation is about 10 months too early!!
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.[/p][/quote]Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?[/p][/quote]i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well.[/p][/quote]Which brings me back to my point SWS....if AP's deal was to get us up in two...and given that we are progressing (all be it not fast enough for a some)...why are we even discussing losing him?...this conversation is about 10 months too early!! Baddesley Bill
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8:52pm Mon 8 Feb 10

ludachris says...

When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok..
Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted.
How well would Wotte have done?..
Better i think.
Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.
When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though. ludachris
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8:57pm Mon 8 Feb 10

south west saint says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
south west saint wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people!
OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.
Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?
i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well.
Which brings me back to my point SWS....if AP's deal was to get us up in two...and given that we are progressing (all be it not fast enough for a some)...why are we even discussing losing him?...this conversation is about 10 months too early!!
LOL maybe it is 10 months early!!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: So...picture the scenario...AP gets the boot...we pay him off and get in a new Manager...there is unrest...results don't go our way...so will you critics out there be as quick to start wailing for heads to roll?...It's nothing short of pathetic that people should be calling for AP's head. Yes....of course we all want results to improve and Cortese has given his manager a nudge.. but AP has been given two seasons to acheive promotion (in my opinion)...ditching him now would be nothing short of a scandel....get a grip people![/p][/quote]OK picture the scenario APis sacked ( im not calling for him to be sacked) and we do get another manager we win every game, win the play-offs, would everybody remember AP, i dont think so.[/p][/quote]Fair comment...so who would offer that guarantee and take the job then SWS?....in your opinion?...would not that person ask for time to do the job rather than deal with the boo-boys?[/p][/quote]i think every manager that applied for the job would give guarantee`s but it doesnt mean they can deliver, as im sure AP gave guarantee`s as well.[/p][/quote]Which brings me back to my point SWS....if AP's deal was to get us up in two...and given that we are progressing (all be it not fast enough for a some)...why are we even discussing losing him?...this conversation is about 10 months too early!![/p][/quote]LOL maybe it is 10 months early!! south west saint
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9:03pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

To get into the top 6 one of the teams that are currently there have to drop out, the team in the less favourable position is Millwall (played more games). I reckon they'll get somewhere in the region of 21 - 25 points, giving a total of 70 - 75 points. We've got 18 games left, Pards reckons we're gonna win 14 giving 42 points, plus the 34 we're on now - 76. Happy days.
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COYR's Keep Marching
To get into the top 6 one of the teams that are currently there have to drop out, the team in the less favourable position is Millwall (played more games). I reckon they'll get somewhere in the region of 21 - 25 points, giving a total of 70 - 75 points. We've got 18 games left, Pards reckons we're gonna win 14 giving 42 points, plus the 34 we're on now - 76. Happy days. . COYR's Keep Marching Saint Andrew Scotland
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9:03pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

ludachris wrote:
When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.
A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion
[quote][p][bold]ludachris[/bold] wrote: When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.[/p][/quote]A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion Baddesley Bill
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9:07pm Mon 8 Feb 10

St. Curious Chimp says...

.............. in Alan Pardew ... I trust ....... he still has my backing 100%, seems a few want instant success, as stated in a few above posts, we need time to adjust and adapt as a team, as soon as we begin to click then we can carry the momentum forward and upward, you gotta take the rough with the smooth
.............. in Alan Pardew ... I trust ....... he still has my backing 100%, seems a few want instant success, as stated in a few above posts, we need time to adjust and adapt as a team, as soon as we begin to click then we can carry the momentum forward and upward, you gotta take the rough with the smooth St. Curious Chimp
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9:37pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

Well said Bill and Chimp. and that's really all that needs to be said
Well said Bill and Chimp. and that's really all that needs to be said Tirau Dan
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9:48pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

For those interested...check out the Echo Saints Forum on facebook. One of the lads has posted his own version of a new shirt for next year...I must say....it looks great!
For those interested...check out the Echo Saints Forum on facebook. One of the lads has posted his own version of a new shirt for next year...I must say....it looks great! Baddesley Bill
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9:51pm Mon 8 Feb 10

blappblapp says...

SFC-WILL wrote:
Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR
Well if that's true about building a team for next year, he's forgotten to tell Cortese 'cause he aint happy!! I wouldn't care if AP goes because we can guarantee the next guy will be even better. Thank god we have an ambitious chairman! Most of u on here sound like u WANT us to stay in league 1 playin sh**e football!!

sw = much-cash lol we do indeed
[quote][p][bold]SFC-WILL[/bold] wrote: Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR[/p][/quote]Well if that's true about building a team for next year, he's forgotten to tell Cortese 'cause he aint happy!! I wouldn't care if AP goes because we can guarantee the next guy will be even better. Thank god we have an ambitious chairman! Most of u on here sound like u WANT us to stay in league 1 playin sh**e football!! sw = much-cash lol we do indeed blappblapp
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9:55pm Mon 8 Feb 10

blappblapp says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
ludachris wrote:
When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.
A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion
so do u think cortese is impatient too???

We had a confident team before Pards started changing his tactics...in my opinion
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ludachris[/bold] wrote: When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.[/p][/quote]A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion[/p][/quote]so do u think cortese is impatient too??? We had a confident team before Pards started changing his tactics...in my opinion blappblapp
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9:59pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

blappblapp wrote:
SFC-WILL wrote: Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR
Well if that's true about building a team for next year, he's forgotten to tell Cortese 'cause he aint happy!! I wouldn't care if AP goes because we can guarantee the next guy will be even better. Thank god we have an ambitious chairman! Most of u on here sound like u WANT us to stay in league 1 playin sh**e football!! sw = much-cash lol we do indeed
how can we guarantee anybody else would be better ??...can't see any logic there,as for wanting to stay in L1.........there's not a true saint anywhere would think that,some people just see it differently to you,pesonally i'm willing to let the manager manage and let his employer judge him...we can all speculate but at the end of the day the owner will decide.........not anyone on here!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]blappblapp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SFC-WILL[/bold] wrote: Pardew is building for next season it is very clear. He wants to win a cup for us and concentrate on the league next year. Sacking Pardew this season would be very silly, yes we are getting draws and yes a lot of money has been invested, i can appreciate that but as Pardews says he is changing his team for the league, JPT and FA Cup. Until those are out the way we will not have a consiten starting 11. Lets get behind the lads tommorow get them to Wembley and support Pards as much as we can. I want the lads to come out to 'Oh when the Saints' as loud as it has ever been sung. COYR[/p][/quote]Well if that's true about building a team for next year, he's forgotten to tell Cortese 'cause he aint happy!! I wouldn't care if AP goes because we can guarantee the next guy will be even better. Thank god we have an ambitious chairman! Most of u on here sound like u WANT us to stay in league 1 playin sh**e football!! sw = much-cash lol we do indeed[/p][/quote]how can we guarantee anybody else would be better ??...can't see any logic there,as for wanting to stay in L1.........there's not a true saint anywhere would think that,some people just see it differently to you,pesonally i'm willing to let the manager manage and let his employer judge him...we can all speculate but at the end of the day the owner will decide.........not anyone on here!!!!!! slugger
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10:05pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Baddesley Bill says...

blappblapp wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
ludachris wrote: When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.
A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion
so do u think cortese is impatient too??? We had a confident team before Pards started changing his tactics...in my opinion
If Cortese was impatient...like the few on here...then he would most probably have Pards in quarters and hanging off the gantrys at SMS. My boss questions my work performance occaisionly to push me to acheive all my goals...but he keeps me on because he has the confidence that I will acheive them. You are passionate...but too impatient...in my opinion
[quote][p][bold]blappblapp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ludachris[/bold] wrote: When AP was appointed i was like huh ok maybe he'll do ok.. Now i'm thinking.. yea we are doing ok..could be a better in the league, cup would be a bonus but not really what we all wanted. How well would Wotte have done?.. Better i think. Can't see Pardew leading us into the Prem though.[/p][/quote]A fair opinion Chris....but AP is the deal we have now and it is for him to prove his metal. It just really winds me up that the impatient few try to rock the boat on here...it's as if they want to destabalise us again ffs. Now is the time to get behind the manager (no matter what we think of his appointment) and try to help him to succeed. We all know that confidence is everything in this game...the boo-boys on here do not help our cause...in my opinion[/p][/quote]so do u think cortese is impatient too??? We had a confident team before Pards started changing his tactics...in my opinion[/p][/quote]If Cortese was impatient...like the few on here...then he would most probably have Pards in quarters and hanging off the gantrys at SMS. My boss questions my work performance occaisionly to push me to acheive all my goals...but he keeps me on because he has the confidence that I will acheive them. You are passionate...but too impatient...in my opinion Baddesley Bill
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10:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10

gosportsaint says...

The same people who back in August said having a chairman that new nothing about football was a mistake, are now jumping on a piece of poor reporting, and trying to use it to justify their negative outlook on everything.
The only real successful clubs in this country are those that maintain stability, United, Arsenal, Everton, and even Stoke. Look at Charlton and Reading, both had long term managers, who had them performing well above their station, but the fans got restless, started complaining that the managers had taken them as far as they could. Cherbishley was sacked from Charlton, and look at what happened. Every Charlton fan that called for him to go is to blame for their current position.
Pardew is good enough to get us up, and see us into the Premiership, he has done it before, and can do it again. Whether he is good enough to take us to the top, I don't know, I doubt it, but by then we will have world class players, on high wages, and will need a manager to match.
Could we have got better than A.P, well possibly, but would they have wanted to come to a club, bought by people that no one had heard of, on minus 10, no backroom structure, and players that no one else wanted, or were deflated. Even the burger bar assistants were so depressed they were crying in the chips.
Pre-season we were all calling for WGS, he didn't want the job, and look at him now, taken a team from third to mid table, with no real chance of promotion. We also wanted Paul Tisdale, Nigel Clough and Paul Ince, none of whom have exactly set the world on fire.
Cortese has done nothing more than any boss would do, just reminding everyone that we need to kick on.
Pards is going nowhere, because the constant merry go round never get you anywhere.
The same people who back in August said having a chairman that new nothing about football was a mistake, are now jumping on a piece of poor reporting, and trying to use it to justify their negative outlook on everything. The only real successful clubs in this country are those that maintain stability, United, Arsenal, Everton, and even Stoke. Look at Charlton and Reading, both had long term managers, who had them performing well above their station, but the fans got restless, started complaining that the managers had taken them as far as they could. Cherbishley was sacked from Charlton, and look at what happened. Every Charlton fan that called for him to go is to blame for their current position. Pardew is good enough to get us up, and see us into the Premiership, he has done it before, and can do it again. Whether he is good enough to take us to the top, I don't know, I doubt it, but by then we will have world class players, on high wages, and will need a manager to match. Could we have got better than A.P, well possibly, but would they have wanted to come to a club, bought by people that no one had heard of, on minus 10, no backroom structure, and players that no one else wanted, or were deflated. Even the burger bar assistants were so depressed they were crying in the chips. Pre-season we were all calling for WGS, he didn't want the job, and look at him now, taken a team from third to mid table, with no real chance of promotion. We also wanted Paul Tisdale, Nigel Clough and Paul Ince, none of whom have exactly set the world on fire. Cortese has done nothing more than any boss would do, just reminding everyone that we need to kick on. Pards is going nowhere, because the constant merry go round never get you anywhere. gosportsaint
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10:39pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Optimist says...

frattonchorus wrote:
Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey
Seasons change, the wind IS clearly blowing in a different direction now.
I do hope you lot don't go under, we need you as an object to overcome.


As for AP and NC, you need to have expectations that are (at present) just beyond your reach, you may fail but you will be stronger for the commitment, a losers reach is too sure, it misses the first moment to act, hesitaton is no virtue. I have learnt that lesson the hard way.
AP is an astute manager, he knows what to do, how to take control, he realises the great opportunity he has here.
This is a mouthwatering week for us, one way or another it will stick in my mind for sometime to come.
[quote][p][bold]frattonchorus[/bold] wrote: Trouble in paradise? A couple of weeks ago you were going to "thrash" Pompey and enjoy "at least" 2 trips to Wembley. Now I'm reading comments about how this Saturday is a "win win" even if you lose and that Pardew isn't the man... Funny how things change. Investors on the horizon, and even if we get relegated we're still be in the league above! Tell me why I don't like Mondays! Play Up Pompey[/p][/quote]Seasons change, the wind IS clearly blowing in a different direction now. I do hope you lot don't go under, we need you as an object to overcome. As for AP and NC, you need to have expectations that are (at present) just beyond your reach, you may fail but you will be stronger for the commitment, a losers reach is too sure, it misses the first moment to act, hesitaton is no virtue. I have learnt that lesson the hard way. AP is an astute manager, he knows what to do, how to take control, he realises the great opportunity he has here. This is a mouthwatering week for us, one way or another it will stick in my mind for sometime to come. Optimist
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10:40pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Saint Andrew Scotland says...

I've just listend to the Radio Solent news this morning on the iplayer (~49mins in if anyones interested). if he (Cortese) made this statement, why wasn't any other media reporter about to hear it? I've searched google and can only find the Granuads piece - Pardew does say in that, that he is under pressure but then I suppose all managers are under some pressure (arnt we all).

I'm not saying he didn't make the statement, just where was everyone else when it was made? Does radio Solent really get that sort of preferential treatment?
Why wasn't it put on the Saints web site, as this is usually where any really serious news is broken first.

Bit late in the day I grant you, but just wondering

COYR's Kep marching!!!
I've just listend to the Radio Solent news this morning on the iplayer (~49mins in if anyones interested). if he (Cortese) made this statement, why wasn't any other media reporter about to hear it? I've searched google and can only find the Granuads piece - Pardew does say in that, that he is under pressure but then I suppose all managers are under some pressure (arnt we all). I'm not saying he didn't make the statement, just where was everyone else when it was made? Does radio Solent really get that sort of preferential treatment? Why wasn't it put on the Saints web site, as this is usually where any really serious news is broken first. Bit late in the day I grant you, but just wondering COYR's Kep marching!!! Saint Andrew Scotland
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10:48pm Mon 8 Feb 10

Brite Spark says...

Snow forecast for the weekend, lets hope that isn't a 'significant event'. Sorry, sounding like a Met Office geek there for a mo.
Snow forecast for the weekend, lets hope that isn't a 'significant event'. Sorry, sounding like a Met Office geek there for a mo. Brite Spark
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11:14pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR
i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR 7saint7
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11:21pm Mon 8 Feb 10

BrixtonSaint says...

is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't
is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't BrixtonSaint
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11:26pm Mon 8 Feb 10

gosportsaint says...

Brilliant revue of the FA Cup game on The Late Kickoff. Jonathon Pearce has gone for a Saints win. Murty on there, reckons N.C's comments were clever, and taken the pressure of the players in the cup games
Brilliant revue of the FA Cup game on The Late Kickoff. Jonathon Pearce has gone for a Saints win. Murty on there, reckons N.C's comments were clever, and taken the pressure of the players in the cup games gosportsaint
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11:29pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

BrixtonSaint wrote:
is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't
they get plenty on the portsmouth news site aswell....if ever you're feeling a bit down i recomend reading it,it cheers me up no end to read about their plight and sheer desperation.......it
's great to be a saint !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]BrixtonSaint[/bold] wrote: is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't[/p][/quote]they get plenty on the portsmouth news site aswell....if ever you're feeling a bit down i recomend reading it,it cheers me up no end to read about their plight and sheer desperation.......it 's great to be a saint !!!!! slugger
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11:32pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

slugger wrote:
BrixtonSaint wrote:
is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't
they get plenty on the portsmouth news site aswell....if ever you're feeling a bit down i recomend reading it,it cheers me up no end to read about their plight and sheer desperation.......it

's great to be a saint !!!!!
it cheers me up to :-)
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BrixtonSaint[/bold] wrote: is anyone aware of any other local newspaper website that engenders so many comments about their local team. It's made interesting reading and for my part, the defensive tactics need to go but AP doesn't and shouldn't[/p][/quote]they get plenty on the portsmouth news site aswell....if ever you're feeling a bit down i recomend reading it,it cheers me up no end to read about their plight and sheer desperation.......it 's great to be a saint !!!!![/p][/quote]it cheers me up to :-) 7saint7
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11:34pm Mon 8 Feb 10

slugger says...

7saint7 wrote:
i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR
can't go tomorrow but will be there for the big one,2-0 saints c'mon !
[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote: i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR[/p][/quote]can't go tomorrow but will be there for the big one,2-0 saints c'mon ! slugger
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11:45pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

south west saint wrote:
7saint7 wrote:
south west saint wrote: At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).
a growing band of supporters what you and PARDEW OUT lol get real ! you two skates don't fool me. AP is the man for the job if what said is true ? so we spent 2mill we made 1mill in cup run plus all the gate money as the fans have been flooding back.if what Nicola Cortese said is true it's two simply try and encourage AP and the players to do better and keep the fan's coming. get real will you play-off is just a maybe a trip to Wembley is must the rest is a plus. COYR
zzzzzzzzzz your obviously on dinner break at school, if you took the time to read the posts you will see most of them are unhappy with pardew, and for your infomation i have never called for AP to be sacked, but i think your new on here?? he just needs to motovate the players more and get his tactics right! So how does that post make me a skate???
coz i can smell fish out as it's not very hard. with the two biggest games of are season a head this week criticising AP right now is not what a true saints fan would do they would get right behide him and the team as a hole if he fail's at this then well your be free to do so . So sws in my book your a skate or just dumb !!
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: At last, what is now a growing band of supporters have been saying, it finally comes from upstairs as well!! well done NC, hopefully AP will now start hanging on to wins instead of turning them into draws! so to the minority who call us moaners because we have criticised AP it seems we were right, because NC has finally realised ( this is not good enough).[/p][/quote]a growing band of supporters what you and PARDEW OUT lol get real ! you two skates don't fool me. AP is the man for the job if what said is true ? so we spent 2mill we made 1mill in cup run plus all the gate money as the fans have been flooding back.if what Nicola Cortese said is true it's two simply try and encourage AP and the players to do better and keep the fan's coming. get real will you play-off is just a maybe a trip to Wembley is must the rest is a plus. COYR[/p][/quote]zzzzzzzzzz your obviously on dinner break at school, if you took the time to read the posts you will see most of them are unhappy with pardew, and for your infomation i have never called for AP to be sacked, but i think your new on here?? he just needs to motovate the players more and get his tactics right! So how does that post make me a skate???[/p][/quote]coz i can smell fish out as it's not very hard. with the two biggest games of are season a head this week criticising AP right now is not what a true saints fan would do they would get right behide him and the team as a hole if he fail's at this then well your be free to do so . So sws in my book your a skate or just dumb !! 7saint7
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11:54pm Mon 8 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

slugger wrote:
7saint7 wrote:
i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR
can't go tomorrow but will be there for the big one,2-0 saints c'mon !
i'll be there iv'e been to all jpt game's the two that went to pen's were priseless. wow wembley would be so great went there in the ZDS cup was are last time at wembley would be great to see the new won and for us to lift it this time it's the same cup you know just with out top two div's any more . JPT is what iv'e wanted saints to win at start season to. then pay up pompey that a upset few fake saint's fans on here if we can win that to . COYR
[quote][p][bold]slugger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote: i can't wait for the game tomorrow it's a must that we get to wembley and then win the JPT also take down pay up pomey to get the last 8 of the fa cup if we can do this Alan Pardew will go down in saints history as one great manger and kill off the boo boy's hopes for his head. play-offs hope this year are fading but not yet dead as i think we are going to soon hit top form. Its a make or break few days ahead with both games at home but with the team who have took us this far and fighting for there place for first time i realy do have a lot of hope. So can we all give 100% to Pardew and are players till then ? COYR[/p][/quote]can't go tomorrow but will be there for the big one,2-0 saints c'mon ![/p][/quote]i'll be there iv'e been to all jpt game's the two that went to pen's were priseless. wow wembley would be so great went there in the ZDS cup was are last time at wembley would be great to see the new won and for us to lift it this time it's the same cup you know just with out top two div's any more . JPT is what iv'e wanted saints to win at start season to. then pay up pompey that a upset few fake saint's fans on here if we can win that to . COYR 7saint7
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12:01am Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

PARDEW OUT! wrote:
lose to mk dons,skates and norwich and pardew will be gone i think.
you dream on and you jog on skate-boy . COYR
[quote][p][bold]PARDEW OUT![/bold] wrote: lose to mk dons,skates and norwich and pardew will be gone i think.[/p][/quote]you dream on and you jog on skate-boy . COYR 7saint7
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12:05am Tue 9 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

truelysaints wrote:
Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.
I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive.
[quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.[/p][/quote]I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive. bitterne park tim.
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12:20am Tue 9 Feb 10

SomersetSaint says...

Saint Andrew Scotland wrote:
To get into the top 6 one of the teams that are currently there have to drop out, the team in the less favourable position is Millwall (played more games). I reckon they'll get somewhere in the region of 21 - 25 points, giving a total of 70 - 75 points. We've got 18 games left, Pards reckons we're gonna win 14 giving 42 points, plus the 34 we're on now - 76. Happy days. . COYR's Keep Marching
Dream on! Yes, of course it's still possible, but it ain't gonna happen. These away draws are slowly killing us and feel like defeats to me.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Andrew Scotland[/bold] wrote: To get into the top 6 one of the teams that are currently there have to drop out, the team in the less favourable position is Millwall (played more games). I reckon they'll get somewhere in the region of 21 - 25 points, giving a total of 70 - 75 points. We've got 18 games left, Pards reckons we're gonna win 14 giving 42 points, plus the 34 we're on now - 76. Happy days. . COYR's Keep Marching[/p][/quote]Dream on! Yes, of course it's still possible, but it ain't gonna happen. These away draws are slowly killing us and feel like defeats to me. SomersetSaint
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12:21am Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

bitterne park tim. wrote:
truelysaints wrote:
Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.
I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive.
Alan Pardew has done so much in such a sort space of time the new player's will be trained and beded in to team this takes time. take lambert he him self said he is fitter and better from saints set up as in Pardew's training of team this i know as i love saints and follow them not only at game's but read site's ever day to . take gordon stachon the boo boy's came out for him to at the start of his time here we had poor run when first came next season we made fa cup final and top half finish and there were no more boo boy's Pardew has done better than he did at start so im very happy so far. i hope you can take this in mind bitterne park tim. COYR
[quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.[/p][/quote]I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive.[/p][/quote]Alan Pardew has done so much in such a sort space of time the new player's will be trained and beded in to team this takes time. take lambert he him self said he is fitter and better from saints set up as in Pardew's training of team this i know as i love saints and follow them not only at game's but read site's ever day to . take gordon stachon the boo boy's came out for him to at the start of his time here we had poor run when first came next season we made fa cup final and top half finish and there were no more boo boy's Pardew has done better than he did at start so im very happy so far. i hope you can take this in mind bitterne park tim. COYR 7saint7
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12:43am Tue 9 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

7saint7 wrote:
bitterne park tim. wrote:
truelysaints wrote:
Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.
I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive.
Alan Pardew has done so much in such a sort space of time the new player's will be trained and beded in to team this takes time. take lambert he him self said he is fitter and better from saints set up as in Pardew's training of team this i know as i love saints and follow them not only at game's but read site's ever day to . take gordon stachon the boo boy's came out for him to at the start of his time here we had poor run when first came next season we made fa cup final and top half finish and there were no more boo boy's Pardew has done better than he did at start so im very happy so far. i hope you can take this in mind bitterne park tim. COYR
i want alan to stay and do well.but i dont know why his team look lazy?they dont fight enough.they dont give 100%.can you explain this?let alone some of his baffling tactics and subs.please enlighten me.
[quote][p][bold]7saint7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]truelysaints[/bold] wrote: Lets face realities, unless one spends at least £2m/player we will not get into the championship as fast as the Chairman now wants. I thought we had a five year plan.. with top half of league 1 this year, champoinship the season after next and premiership by the 5th year. Stick to the plan and lets not **** things up now.[/p][/quote]I think i understand the problem.Its not so much the results.its pardews tactics and motivation that is the problem.our players seem very unfit.i would of expected them to chase every ball and work 100% on saturday.but there was no passion or desire almost as if the players dont want to play for him.If we was playing at 80% we would get results in this league.we have a good team,so the buck has to stop somewhere.I really want pardew to do well to keep the continuety,but if he cannot improve himself is see no alternative but to change him.hope this helps the people who dont understand whats going on.I think a lot of posters on here dont get it.(bless).I would like a real tough manager in here who takes no crap.and gets some players playing aggresive.[/p][/quote]Alan Pardew has done so much in such a sort space of time the new player's will be trained and beded in to team this takes time. take lambert he him self said he is fitter and better from saints set up as in Pardew's training of team this i know as i love saints and follow them not only at game's but read site's ever day to . take gordon stachon the boo boy's came out for him to at the start of his time here we had poor run when first came next season we made fa cup final and top half finish and there were no more boo boy's Pardew has done better than he did at start so im very happy so far. i hope you can take this in mind bitterne park tim. COYR[/p][/quote]i want alan to stay and do well.but i dont know why his team look lazy?they dont fight enough.they dont give 100%.can you explain this?let alone some of his baffling tactics and subs.please enlighten me. bitterne park tim.
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12:58am Tue 9 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.
Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise. bitterne park tim.
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1:08am Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

as i said beding players takes time and as for Pardew's tactics he's trying to get it right since new players its been not great stuff so far but thats what happens cup game been great to watch were have to see in time if he's not getting it right at end this season and the start of next then im sure he will get the axe.but i think soon very soon we will see just how well the team he has built we unfold and the dull away draws will be back to them 3-1 3-2 wins we were enjoying. COYR
as i said beding players takes time and as for Pardew's tactics he's trying to get it right since new players its been not great stuff so far but thats what happens cup game been great to watch were have to see in time if he's not getting it right at end this season and the start of next then im sure he will get the axe.but i think soon very soon we will see just how well the team he has built we unfold and the dull away draws will be back to them 3-1 3-2 wins we were enjoying. COYR 7saint7
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1:15am Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

bitterne park tim. wrote:
Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.
no we are not but the likes of PARDEW OUT aka pube boy is and as for south west saint im in two minds as he is as dum as a skate.
[quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.[/p][/quote]no we are not but the likes of PARDEW OUT aka pube boy is and as for south west saint im in two minds as he is as dum as a skate. 7saint7
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1:17am Tue 9 Feb 10

SaintRachel says...

Hmmmn... I think the slant of this story is the Echo playing 'let's wind up everyone at St Marys' because of the ban. You only have to look at the pic of Cortese chosen to go with it. Looks like he's sucking on a gobstopper! The Echo must have spent ages trawling through the shots looking for the funniest photo...
They've chosen the worst quotes in order to spin the story into a mountain from a molehill. Don't fall for it.
Hmmmn... I think the slant of this story is the Echo playing 'let's wind up everyone at St Marys' because of the ban. You only have to look at the pic of Cortese chosen to go with it. Looks like he's sucking on a gobstopper! The Echo must have spent ages trawling through the shots looking for the funniest photo... They've chosen the worst quotes in order to spin the story into a mountain from a molehill. Don't fall for it. SaintRachel
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1:25am Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

SaintRachel wrote:
Hmmmn... I think the slant of this story is the Echo playing 'let's wind up everyone at St Marys' because of the ban. You only have to look at the pic of Cortese chosen to go with it. Looks like he's sucking on a gobstopper! The Echo must have spent ages trawling through the shots looking for the funniest photo...
They've chosen the worst quotes in order to spin the story into a mountain from a molehill. Don't fall for it.
no i have not ;-) it has giving the boo boy's a lot of fun . and at a time when every fan should be backing Pardew and team in such a week of make or break are season and of club's history. COYR
[quote][p][bold]SaintRachel[/bold] wrote: Hmmmn... I think the slant of this story is the Echo playing 'let's wind up everyone at St Marys' because of the ban. You only have to look at the pic of Cortese chosen to go with it. Looks like he's sucking on a gobstopper! The Echo must have spent ages trawling through the shots looking for the funniest photo... They've chosen the worst quotes in order to spin the story into a mountain from a molehill. Don't fall for it.[/p][/quote]no i have not ;-) it has giving the boo boy's a lot of fun . and at a time when every fan should be backing Pardew and team in such a week of make or break are season and of club's history. COYR 7saint7
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2:44am Tue 9 Feb 10

Tirau Dan says...

Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :)

have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun....
Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :) have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun.... Tirau Dan
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7:20am Tue 9 Feb 10

south west saint says...

bitterne park tim. wrote:
Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.
I thought that as well .
[quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.[/p][/quote]I thought that as well . south west saint
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7:46am Tue 9 Feb 10

wallop wonderboy says...

You have only to look at Manchester City for an example of massive spending not leading to immediate glory. We will see more spirit in the cup matches because many of the costly imports are 'cup tied' and those that are eligible and have served us well through the autumn will be playing for their long-term futures. I am sure that the players will be aware that the management pay them well but will expect results and having noticed how NC operates if they do not produce they will be shown the door. He did not give up a chance in the Italian League to stay here with a Div 1 outfit long-term.
Good wishes to the team and the supporters for tonight and Saturday.
You have only to look at Manchester City for an example of massive spending not leading to immediate glory. We will see more spirit in the cup matches because many of the costly imports are 'cup tied' and those that are eligible and have served us well through the autumn will be playing for their long-term futures. I am sure that the players will be aware that the management pay them well but will expect results and having noticed how NC operates if they do not produce they will be shown the door. He did not give up a chance in the Italian League to stay here with a Div 1 outfit long-term. Good wishes to the team and the supporters for tonight and Saturday. wallop wonderboy
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11:29am Tue 9 Feb 10

SaintRachel says...

Tirau Dan wrote:
Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :)

have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun....
Hi Dan. I hate Facebook - can I join the Saints Forum without being an individual member?
[quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :) have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun....[/p][/quote]Hi Dan. I hate Facebook - can I join the Saints Forum without being an individual member? SaintRachel
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11:51am Tue 9 Feb 10

bitterne park tim. says...

SaintRachel wrote:
Tirau Dan wrote: Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :) have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun....
Hi Dan. I hate Facebook - can I join the Saints Forum without being an individual member?
You have to be registered on facebook mate.its easy to join.why do you hate facebook?its great!!
[quote][p][bold]SaintRachel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tirau Dan[/bold] wrote: Thanks Rachel... always the level headed one :) have you joined the group on fb "Saint Echo Forum" all the lads and some of the Saints regulars have put pics up and are having fun....[/p][/quote]Hi Dan. I hate Facebook - can I join the Saints Forum without being an individual member?[/p][/quote]You have to be registered on facebook mate.its easy to join.why do you hate facebook?its great!! bitterne park tim.
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3:44pm Tue 9 Feb 10

7saint7 says...

south west saint wrote:
bitterne park tim. wrote:
Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.
I thought that as well .
u would think that sws as you are as dumb as a skate .. i think you and Pardew out would make great poopy fan's too.. COYR
[quote][p][bold]south west saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bitterne park tim.[/bold] wrote: Is slugger and 7saint7 the same person?i heard a rumour on another thread.why is that?and why do they keep calling people skates?i thought this was a saints debate?ergo,thus meaning debating all things saints.but ill take that as verbatum until warned otherwise.[/p][/quote]I thought that as well .[/p][/quote]u would think that sws as you are as dumb as a skate .. i think you and Pardew out would make great poopy fan's too.. COYR 7saint7
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