Celtic urged to fight off Saints move for Hooper (From Daily Echo)

Thebaton wrote:
Shaun you cant be serious! Selfishly holding back hoopers career? If youve ever seen hooper play you'l realise he's destined for bigger and better than the Saints!

Thebaton wrote:
Shaun you cant be serious! Selfishly holding back hoopers career? If youve ever seen hooper play you'l realise he's destined for bigger and better than the Saints!

flashhart2000 wrote:
C'mon Saints should be above going around smaller leagues poaching their best players. although I wouldn't say no to Kenny Miller.

blinki123 wrote:
I know you love your club, saints, but wind it in.

Celtic is an institution, poor league, but an institution. I'm afraid Southampton, while a fine club, is a parochial concern in comparison.

Jos Hoooiveld could not handle playing for Celtic. How is he doing now?

When Hooper does leave, he will leave for another historic club, if he has any ambition beyond his bank balance.

irishedd1 wrote:
how arrogant are you lot.
Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous.
you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours.
OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer.
He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone.
hail hail

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:

irishedd1 wrote: how arrogant are you lot. Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous. you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours. OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer. He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone. hail hail

how stupid is your comment. Stop tapping up other players? You need to take a look around because EVERY club does it. Your intelligence is as crap as your poxy club

BlandfordSaint wrote:
Best deal would be Sordell for 3M plus Puncheon. Young keen English striker for the future

irishedd1 wrote:
correct youre a club that can buy the players who HAIL at celtic like hooiveld.

if your manager wants players to strengthen your squad ask hi to ring neil lennon and he can supply a list of players we have in our reserves, daryll murphy is available for a million

irishedd1 wrote:
how arrogant are you lot.
Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous.
you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours.
OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer.
He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone.
hail hail

irishedd1 wrote:
we could fit your fan base in our centre circle, keep on living on someone elses money and you will end up like darlington hail hail

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:

irishedd1 wrote: correct youre a club that can buy the players who HAIL at celtic like hooiveld. if your manager wants players to strengthen your squad ask hi to ring neil lennon and he can supply a list of players we have in our reserves, daryll murphy is available for a million

And by the way to you as well blinkii123, take Scott MacDonald. Couldnt get into our first team, joined you lot scored a hat full of goals. Decided to go to middlesborough to step up a level and cant score for toffee. The gulf between leagues is bigger than you think, you only get players who have no hope of first team football down here or who are from lower leagues! Look at Samaras, we wouldnt pay 500k for that load of rubbish!

irishedd1 wrote:
how arrogant are you lot. Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous. you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours. OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer. He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone. hail hail

SooperHooper wrote:
What a laugh,"holding hooper back"hes going to be playing football in EUROPE next season,playing in front of 60,000 fans every 2 weeks,and 4 games a season against the monkeys.Who in their right mind would swap that for a relegation battle in the EPL?southampton dont have matt le tissier any more,so,like a yo-yo,southampton fc will go up,then down.You need to look no futher than Jos Hooiveld 7 games for us was enough,he was TERRIBLE,and the fact hes now looking good in your league,shows us all that despite what the ignorants south of the border think,your football is not as good as you think,not even CLOSE.Hooper will be a celtic player for at least another 2 seasons,i have zero doubt about that.

irishedd1 wrote:
we could fit your fan base in our centre circle,

keep on living on someone elses money and you will end up like darlington
hail hail

SooperHooper wrote:
What a laugh,"holding hooper back"hes going to be playing football in EUROPE next season,playing in front of 60,000 fans every 2 weeks,and 4 games a season against the monkeys.Who in their right mind would swap that for a relegation battle in the EPL?southampton dont have matt le tissier any more,so,like a yo-yo,southampton fc will go up,then down.You need to look no futher than Jos Hooiveld 7 games for us was enough,he was TERRIBLE,and the fact hes now looking good in your league,shows us all that despite what the ignorants south of the border think,your football is not as good as you think,not even CLOSE.Hooper will be a celtic player for at least another 2 seasons,i have zero doubt about that.

Landsdowne saint wrote:
My mate Tam was talking about that 'independence referendum' he said he's gona go upto Scotland vote indepedance and get the next train back to here,says it all really lol

irishedd1 wrote:
how arrogant are you lot. Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous. you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours. OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer. He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone. hail hail

irishedd1 wrote:
celtic would destroy your team on the pitch7 your fans and stadiu could never match ours
a big match for you lot is HULL away
last time you lot went to europe it was a day trip to jersey that ended up in france

you have a big backer so what. when the arse falls out of the epl and sky money you will be one of the clubs in trouble as your fan base cannot support the cost base you are creating

at the same time celts will still be playing champions league football and wont be OWNED by someone who is only their for ego / making money

enjoy the rocket trip, but remember rockets not only go up but fall to earth eventually

SooperHooper wrote:
What a laugh,"holding hooper back"hes going to be playing football in EUROPE next season,playing in front of 60,000 fans every 2 weeks,and 4 games a season against the monkeys.Who in their right mind would swap that for a relegation battle in the EPL?southampton dont have matt le tissier any more,so,like a yo-yo,southampton fc will go up,then down.You need to look no futher than Jos Hooiveld 7 games for us was enough,he was TERRIBLE,and the fact hes now looking good in your league,shows us all that despite what the ignorants south of the border think,your football is not as good as you think,not even CLOSE.Hooper will be a celtic player for at least another 2 seasons,i have zero doubt about that.

ghk230473 wrote:
Don't wish to slag off Celtic as they are a well supported club and almost a religion in jock land. Would like hooper as the interest generated speaks volumes, he must be half decent and he is at an ideal age. More importantly this episode proves to me that saints are willing to part with money and are taking our challenge for promotion seriously. Also I'm glad to hear the weekly wage will rise. Interesting points from Celtic fans regarding tv rights and is proof how it has changed football and not all good.

Confucious wrote:
I had a fierce argument with my Granddad this morning about this Hooper business. He says we shouldn't be brandishing our money (which came to us by good fortune) and using it to 'rob' more good players from the poor Celtic fans. A lifelong socialist since the Mao days, he's got a thing about the uneven distribution of luckiness and unluckiness in society. He wants the government to study all the reasons for good luck and back luck (touching wood, St Christopher charms, breaking mirrors, walking under ladders etc) and then 'ration' them out evenly. He also thinks football clubs lucky enough to notch up lots of points should be have them redistributed via a progressive 'fairness points taxation' regime to the lower teams. I disagree but can't dispute his integrity. He hated himself so much for having a polically incorrect thought last month (albeit not one which he actually voiced) that he is now having himself sued by himself via a no-win no-fee lawyer. I have no idea how such a daft granddad could have such a smart nephew such as myself. Still, whilst I don't agree with him on this Hooper business, it's nice to know someone is on the Jocks' side.

Block 42 wrote:
So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

irishedd1 wrote:
take your mickey mouse club where it belongs back to disney now can both your fans get together and get your stories straight, half the comnets on here are about hooper is unproven in the english leagues strange then that at scunthorpe he scored more goals than andy £35million carroll two years ago all you club is , is just predators you are trying to get hooper on the cheap so you can sell him to the epl next year and make a packet do one bids start at £10 million now why dont you run off to your rich owners and beg him to sign a much much bigger cheque say hello to mini mouse as well

irishedd1 wrote:
take your mickey mouse club where it belongs back to disney now can both your fans get together and get your stories straight, half the comnets on here are about hooper is unproven in the english leagues strange then that at scunthorpe he scored more goals than andy £35million carroll two years ago all you club is , is just predators you are trying to get hooper on the cheap so you can sell him to the epl next year and make a packet do one bids start at £10 million now why dont you run off to your rich owners and beg him to sign a much much bigger cheque say hello to mini mouse as well

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote: I had a fierce argument with my Granddad this morning about this Hooper business. He says we shouldn't be brandishing our money (which came to us by good fortune) and using it to 'rob' more good players from the poor Celtic fans. A lifelong socialist since the Mao days, he's got a thing about the uneven distribution of luckiness and unluckiness in society. He wants the government to study all the reasons for good luck and back luck (touching wood, St Christopher charms, breaking mirrors, walking under ladders etc) and then 'ration' them out evenly. He also thinks football clubs lucky enough to notch up lots of points should be have them redistributed via a progressive 'fairness points taxation' regime to the lower teams. I disagree but can't dispute his integrity. He hated himself so much for having a polically incorrect thought last month (albeit not one which he actually voiced) that he is now having himself sued by himself via a no-win no-fee lawyer. I have no idea how such a daft granddad could have such a smart nephew such as myself. Still, whilst I don't agree with him on this Hooper business, it's nice to know someone is on the Jocks' side.

Nephew?

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote:
So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot.

i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down
hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Sussex Saint wrote:
I think this settles the Saints / Celtic ambition stakes, the size and strength of relative leagues. After League 1, Charlton Athletic's finest. Point proven me, thinks... http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2088603/Ce ltic-chasing-Charlto ns-Yann-Kermorgant.h tml

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote:
I had a fierce argument with my Granddad this morning about this Hooper business. He says we shouldn't be brandishing our money (which came to us by good fortune) and using it to 'rob' more good players from the poor Celtic fans. A lifelong socialist since the Mao days, he's got a thing about the uneven distribution of luckiness and unluckiness in society. He wants the government to study all the reasons for good luck and back luck (touching wood, St Christopher charms, breaking mirrors, walking under ladders etc) and then 'ration' them out evenly. He also thinks football clubs lucky enough to notch up lots of points should be have them redistributed via a progressive 'fairness points taxation' regime to the lower teams. I disagree but can't dispute his integrity. He hated himself so much for having a polically incorrect thought last month (albeit not one which he actually voiced) that he is now having himself sued by himself via a no-win no-fee lawyer. I have no idea how such a daft granddad could have such a smart nephew such as myself. Still, whilst I don't agree with him on this Hooper business, it's nice to know someone is on the Jocks' side.

Nephew?

OfficialSpudUk wrote:
Getting an overwhelming feeling that Celtic needs to be a pre-season fixture!

cpnhadock wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:
we could fit your fan base in our centre circle,

keep on living on someone elses money and you will end up like darlington
hail hail

Interesting that you should talk about money....... I find it ironic that Southampton are debt free, self sufficient and furthermore whilst we enjoy the security of the Liebherr family harbour behind us - our chairman is fiscally prudent and commercially astute.
Your support talk alot about playing in front of 60,000 fans.... European football etc.... so how on earth are your club a SELLING club whom financially struggle??? (Don't site TV rights, we get minimum from this also)...

As for Hooper, I am not fussed personally if we get him or not - as far as I am concerned, someone whom has scored goals in Scotland offers ZERO guarantee that they are capable of making the step UP into the English leagues.

As for Southampton, we have ambition but we are far from the finish line right now and we collectively as a club and fan base need to stick together and really drive for promotion!

COYR!!

Confucious wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Confucious wrote: I had a fierce argument with my Granddad this morning about this Hooper business. He says we shouldn't be brandishing our money (which came to us by good fortune) and using it to 'rob' more good players from the poor Celtic fans. A lifelong socialist since the Mao days, he's got a thing about the uneven distribution of luckiness and unluckiness in society. He wants the government to study all the reasons for good luck and back luck (touching wood, St Christopher charms, breaking mirrors, walking under ladders etc) and then 'ration' them out evenly. He also thinks football clubs lucky enough to notch up lots of points should be have them redistributed via a progressive 'fairness points taxation' regime to the lower teams. I disagree but can't dispute his integrity. He hated himself so much for having a polically incorrect thought last month (albeit not one which he actually voiced) that he is now having himself sued by himself via a no-win no-fee lawyer. I have no idea how such a daft granddad could have such a smart nephew such as myself. Still, whilst I don't agree with him on this Hooper business, it's nice to know someone is on the Jocks' side.

Nephew?

I was demoted from No1 Grandson to No23 Nephew in the Confucian pecking order after campaigning to have sausages and ski holidays taxed owing to the burden they place indirectly on the health service. My granddad really likes sausages.

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
you scotts make me laugh.. you have small d1ck syndrome, fighting for independence talking about for ages, declare that thats what you are going to do, then................

..............have to wait for the battle of flippin Braveheart in 2050 ! LOL you lot are a joke

Super_Hooper88 wrote:
This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
LOL. It reminds me of something out of Monty Python and the Holy Grail with these stupid scotts!

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote:
So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot.

i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down
hail hail and a few extra hail hails

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote:
So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot.

i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down
hail hail and a few extra hail hails

blinki123 wrote:
Jos Hooiveld is a regular starter for the saints. He was so far out of the picture at Celtic, he turned up on match days wearing jeans and trainers. He could not handle the pressure playing for Celtic brings. He seems to have found his level. Southampton is a fine club. But anyone here who sees moving to saints from the Famous Glasgow Celtic as a step up or c.v. improvement is not a football person. Also saddened by some of the barely-disguised racism on this thread.

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:
This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work!

Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year.

A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Folkestone Saint wrote:

blinki123 wrote:
Jos Hooiveld is a regular starter for the saints. He was so far out of the picture at Celtic, he turned up on match days wearing jeans and trainers. He could not handle the pressure playing for Celtic brings. He seems to have found his level. Southampton is a fine club. But anyone here who sees moving to saints from the Famous Glasgow Celtic as a step up or c.v. improvement is not a football person. Also saddened by some of the barely-disguised racism on this thread.

If you look up to the top of this tread and others relating to this story you will find that we a Saints fans are defending our corner we did not ask for your opinion but have responded to it in the way we see fit, and your's starts off slating one of OUR players, just because lennon can't coach a player who won defender of the year TWICE in the Swedish league doe's not make the Hoover a bad player it make's lennon a cr@p coach. Yes celtic are famous in Scotland and maybe Ireland and down here in England but not liked

blinki123 wrote:
Jos Hooiveld is a regular starter for the saints. He was so far out of the picture at Celtic, he turned up on match days wearing jeans and trainers. He could not handle the pressure playing for Celtic brings. He seems to have found his level. Southampton is a fine club. But anyone here who sees moving to saints from the Famous Glasgow Celtic as a step up or c.v. improvement is not a football person. Also saddened by some of the barely-disguised racism on this thread.

insane saint wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

blinki123 wrote: Jos Hooiveld is a regular starter for the saints. He was so far out of the picture at Celtic, he turned up on match days wearing jeans and trainers. He could not handle the pressure playing for Celtic brings. He seems to have found his level. Southampton is a fine club. But anyone here who sees moving to saints from the Famous Glasgow Celtic as a step up or c.v. improvement is not a football person. Also saddened by some of the barely-disguised racism on this thread.

If you look up to the top of this tread and others relating to this story you will find that we a Saints fans are defending our corner we did not ask for your opinion but have responded to it in the way we see fit, and your's starts off slating one of OUR players, just because lennon can't coach a player who won defender of the year TWICE in the Swedish league doe's not make the Hoover a bad player it make's lennon a cr@p coach. Yes celtic are famous in Scotland and maybe Ireland and down here in England but not liked

blinki123 wrote: Jos Hooiveld is a regular starter for the saints. He was so far out of the picture at Celtic, he turned up on match days wearing jeans and trainers. He could not handle the pressure playing for Celtic brings. He seems to have found his level. Southampton is a fine club. But anyone here who sees moving to saints from the Famous Glasgow Celtic as a step up or c.v. improvement is not a football person. Also saddened by some of the barely-disguised racism on this thread. "where is the racism?"

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

northamrowcc wrote:
Oh and I do hope you vote for independence we wont have to give you billions of pounds in aid, you will have the euro good luck with that and the english navy would have to report back to an english port making your bases redundant if you don't believe me the english flag is dominant on the white ensign. And build a new hadrians wall.

blinki123 wrote:

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
LOL. It reminds me of something out of Monty Python and the Holy Grail with these stupid scotts!

By the way, it's 'scots'. One 't' only. Otherwise, you might end up looking 'stupid'.

We gave you the Enlightenment, after all.

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too.

I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games.

I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

Landsdowne saint wrote:
My mate Tam was talking about that 'independence referendum' he said he's gona go upto Scotland vote indepedance and get the next train back to here,says it all really lol

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:

blinki123 wrote:
I know you love your club, saints, but wind it in.

Celtic is an institution, poor league, but an institution. I'm afraid Southampton, while a fine club, is a parochial concern in comparison.

Jos Hoooiveld could not handle playing for Celtic. How is he doing now?

When Hooper does leave, he will leave for another historic club, if he has any ambition beyond his bank balance.

What do you mean how is he doing now?!! Dont post until you actually research the topic you are commenting on! Jos is doing very well, he has become one of the first names on the team sheet. And apologies, but yes Celtic are an institution, yes they play european football (albeit not well at all, more of a token them being there), but all Scottish football is, is a 2 horse race, the only games you look forward to are the derbies because there you have 2 teams who are the same level. I would love to see rangers and celtic in the premier league because you would find out within the first 3 games exactly how out of your depth you would be! It would be like you in europe but every week! Not only that, but when you got relegated, you would struggle in the championship to be anything more than mid table. Wind yer necks in, I am going to laugh so hard if hooper does sign, because that really would shut you lot up.

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

SooperHooper wrote:

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:

irishedd1 wrote: correct youre a club that can buy the players who HAIL at celtic like hooiveld. if your manager wants players to strengthen your squad ask hi to ring neil lennon and he can supply a list of players we have in our reserves, daryll murphy is available for a million

And by the way to you as well blinkii123, take Scott MacDonald. Couldnt get into our first team, joined you lot scored a hat full of goals. Decided to go to middlesborough to step up a level and cant score for toffee. The gulf between leagues is bigger than you think, you only get players who have no hope of first team football down here or who are from lower leagues! Look at Samaras, we wouldnt pay 500k for that load of rubbish!

snodgrass?charlie adam?dorrans? all absolute below average players,but come to the championship,and they ran the show. over-hyped nonsense is "the championship"

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

irishedd1 wrote:
interesint that hooper has just been QUOTED as saying "said the interest from other clubs was ok as it gave his agent better bargaining tools for the extension but he has no interest in going back to the championship or a prem team fighting relegation every year. time to take you cheque book else where unless you want daryll murphy go on a round million and he is yours, prob do well in your tea / league hail hail and an extra hail

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

The population of Southampton is what? 250,000? Something like that. I think they should be able to fill a 32,000 stadium from people from Southampton alone, and thats before you take into account the surrounding areas. If Southampton are as big a club as they have been made out from some of the comments here, then people shouldn't have to support a London club if they want to follow a big club.

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

The population of Southampton is what? 250,000? Something like that. I think they should be able to fill a 32,000 stadium from people from Southampton alone, and thats before you take into account the surrounding areas. If Southampton are as big a club as they have been made out from some of the comments here, then people shouldn't have to support a London club if they want to follow a big club.

We did fill it in the prem, but you have missed my point entirely, we are now regularly selling about 30,000 and we are still not playing in the top flight, the London quote points out that although we are relatively close to some of the biggest teams in the country we still pull in very good crowds whilst playing in the second tier, I think that says a lot about Saints and the quality of football being played there, what is the largest crowd a second tier Scottish team has pulled in the league

St Retford wrote:
Why are we having an argument with Celtic fans? It's not like any of us are leading negotiations to buy him.

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

The population of Southampton is what? 250,000? Something like that. I think they should be able to fill a 32,000 stadium from people from Southampton alone, and thats before you take into account the surrounding areas. If Southampton are as big a club as they have been made out from some of the comments here, then people shouldn't have to support a London club if they want to follow a big club.

We did fill it in the prem, but you have missed my point entirely, we are now regularly selling about 30,000 and we are still not playing in the top flight, the London quote points out that although we are relatively close to some of the biggest teams in the country we still pull in very good crowds whilst playing in the second tier, I think that says a lot about Saints and the quality of football being played there, what is the largest crowd a second tier Scottish team has pulled in the league

Vordhosbn wrote:

St Retford wrote: Why are we having an argument with Celtic fans? It's not like any of us are leading negotiations to buy him.

Because they have delusions of grandeur and it can get a bit annoying? Do all the other comments pages get this treatment, we get the Skates, and for a while B'mouth and Brighton had a go, then we had West Ham fans on here, now Celtic...so to be fair to you I wouldn't mind reading what Saints fans have to say without the need to skip pathetic comments like some of the ones above

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

The population of Southampton is what? 250,000? Something like that. I think they should be able to fill a 32,000 stadium from people from Southampton alone, and thats before you take into account the surrounding areas. If Southampton are as big a club as they have been made out from some of the comments here, then people shouldn't have to support a London club if they want to follow a big club.

We did fill it in the prem, but you have missed my point entirely, we are now regularly selling about 30,000 and we are still not playing in the top flight, the London quote points out that although we are relatively close to some of the biggest teams in the country we still pull in very good crowds whilst playing in the second tier, I think that says a lot about Saints and the quality of football being played there, what is the largest crowd a second tier Scottish team has pulled in the league

I'm not saying Southampton are not a well supported club, they are, my point is, there were people commenting here saying Southampton are bigger than Celtic, and that to me, is ridiculous. And your argument about the English 2nd tier vs Scotlands 2nd tier is hardly fair considering England's population is 10 times that of Scotland's. Compare it to countries with similar populations e.g Ireland, Norway, Finland and Denmark and i'm sure the Scottish attendances would be right up at the top. I read recently that as a percentage of the population Scottish football is one of the best supported in Europe, if not the best.

Champions Hip wrote:
What's with all this big club nonsense, the population of Glasgow alone is 6 million, compared to Southampton's 2.5 million. Taking into the fact that SPL only has two major teams, and not to mention one main reason to support either Rangers or Celtic is down to religious loyalties, so need to take into account the Irish/N.Irish and apparent glory hunters, it does not take a mathematician to work out that Celtic will of course have a bigger fanbase than Saints. At least Saint's support is based solely on the love of the club, can hardly be due to major success. Saying all that though, if Hooper doesn't want to come, then do we want him rocking the bus?

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Folkestone Saint wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

Little Hitler wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote: This is the same Southampton that were in League 1 last season right? Just checking. Another English team who think they are a "big club" when the truth is no one outside the UK has heard of them. For a one club city, an average attendance of 26,000 is pathetic.

Ahh we've found one that can use English the way it was intended. Good work! Yes, we were in League 1 last year. I don't think we're a big club but I KNOW we have an excellent chance of getting back to one of the biggest leagues in the world next year. A club can only be big by playing in a big league, this is something we can achieve and I see no reason why we can't be pull in 40-50,000 fans for every home game in 5 years time (I believe the size of gates is the main measure of a big club according to you lot?).

Well ofcourse, the size of the crowd you attract is a measure of the size of the club you are, is it not? There is no ponit in the EPL vs SPL arguement, we all know it's a no contest, but I don't agree that a club can only be big by playing in a big league, look at the Portugese clubs for example. It's a sad day that you would only be able to attract crowds like that if you were an established EPL team, look at the crowds we get playing against dross week in week out. Imagine what we could get if we played in a "big league". We're stuck in Scotland and that is not going to change, not anytime soon anyway, so we have to lump it. But at least it gives us the chance to play in the biggest league in the world, the Champions League. Saddly I don't see the Saints ever being there. Anyway good luck for the rest of the season, and hopefully you get promoted, just without Hooper.

And good luck to you too. I don't see much of Celtic but when I have there has been a notable expanse of green seats at some of their home games. I think we could pull in 40-50k per game but accept that this would include a fair share of the prawn sandwhich / glory hunter brigade. That's a sign of the times though, the kids are all wearing Man. City shirts now because they want glory handed on a plate.

The average attendance for the season so far is just over 50,000, which is higher than every English club outside Manchester United and Arsenal. As for the glory hunters, it's the same up here, loads of Man United, Man City and Chelsea "fans" etc, but i'm sure most of the other Scottish clubs would say that there are glory hunters supporting Celtic and Rangers, which there is no doubt there will be. Suppose it's down to the parents.

I never understood why my father who was born in Edinburgh followed Rangers not Hearts or Hibs, I was born in Hampshire and Saints were the nearest team plus all my mates supported them, so although we have smaller crowds mainly due to a smaller stadium than you the competition for fans is far greater with most London clubs about 1 hour away, how many top teams are within an hour of Glasgow

The population of Southampton is what? 250,000? Something like that. I think they should be able to fill a 32,000 stadium from people from Southampton alone, and thats before you take into account the surrounding areas. If Southampton are as big a club as they have been made out from some of the comments here, then people shouldn't have to support a London club if they want to follow a big club.

We did fill it in the prem, but you have missed my point entirely, we are now regularly selling about 30,000 and we are still not playing in the top flight, the London quote points out that although we are relatively close to some of the biggest teams in the country we still pull in very good crowds whilst playing in the second tier, I think that says a lot about Saints and the quality of football being played there, what is the largest crowd a second tier Scottish team has pulled in the league

I'm not saying Southampton are not a well supported club, they are, my point is, there were people commenting here saying Southampton are bigger than Celtic, and that to me, is ridiculous. And your argument about the English 2nd tier vs Scotlands 2nd tier is hardly fair considering England's population is 10 times that of Scotland's. Compare it to countries with similar populations e.g Ireland, Norway, Finland and Denmark and i'm sure the Scottish attendances would be right up at the top. I read recently that as a percentage of the population Scottish football is one of the best supported in Europe, if not the best.

Our population may be bigger but they are not all English, we have one of the largest non citizenships in the world so as a country we have about 50m true English not the nearly 70m that reside here and Soton has more than it's fair share who do no attend any sports,

DisplacedFan wrote:
To add to the rumour mill:

Celtic, meanwhile, have yet to receive further contact from Southampton over top scorer Gary Hooper, insisting they will resist all approaches.

Sportsmail understands the south-coast club are willing to go as high as £6.5million to land the 23-year-old and would likely double Hooper’s pay from £14,000 to £25,000 a week. Hooper’s new agent, Simon Dent, is seeking an extension and improved terms on his current deal at Parkhead


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blinki123 wrote:
I know you love your club, saints, but wind it in.

Celtic is an institution, poor league, but an institution. I'm afraid Southampton, while a fine club, is a parochial concern in comparison.

Jos Hoooiveld could not handle playing for Celtic. How is he doing now?

When Hooper does leave, he will leave for another historic club, if he has any ambition beyond his bank balance.

Gossie. wrote:

Champions Hip wrote:
What's with all this big club nonsense, the population of Glasgow alone is 6 million, compared to Southampton's 2.5 million. Taking into the fact that SPL only has two major teams, and not to mention one main reason to support either Rangers or Celtic is down to religious loyalties, so need to take into account the Irish/N.Irish and apparent glory hunters, it does not take a mathematician to work out that Celtic will of course have a bigger fanbase than Saints. At least Saint's support is based solely on the love of the club, can hardly be due to major success. Saying all that though, if Hooper doesn't want to come, then do we want him rocking the bus?

Think you may have got your numbers wrong here, there's only about 6m Jocks in the whole of Scotland, infact, there are more of the bu99ers down here, which rather says a lot about the knat biting wasteland.

Southampton has a population of 250000, not 2.5m, although I surprised it's not a lot higher seeing as it's such a wonderful place to live.

Vordhosbn wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Is the Scottish PL technically gifted then? Do you have a player the calibre of Cahill like Bolton did? Martin Petrov? Or how about someone like Victor Moses at Wigan? Or Hugo Rodallega? No, didn't think so, you have Samaras, says it all...

irishedd1 wrote:

Vordhosbn wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Is the Scottish PL technically gifted then? Do you have a player the calibre of Cahill like Bolton did? Martin Petrov? Or how about someone like Victor Moses at Wigan? Or Hugo Rodallega? No, didn't think so, you have Samaras, says it all...

fifa list from this week of young players to watch who will be the next superstars......

jamie forrest from celtic...


and who exactly from england.............

.......no a single player

lol

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irishedd1 wrote:
we could fit your fan base in our centre circle,

keep on living on someone elses money and you will end up like darlington
hail hail

irishedd1 wrote:
how arrogant are you lot.
Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous.
you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours.
OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer.
He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone.
hail hail

SooperHooper wrote:
What a laugh,"holding hooper back"hes going to be playing football in EUROPE next season,playing in front of 60,000 fans every 2 weeks,and 4 games a season against the monkeys.Who in their right mind would swap that for a relegation battle in the EPL?southampton dont have matt le tissier any more,so,like a yo-yo,southampton fc will go up,then down.You need to look no futher than Jos Hooiveld 7 games for us was enough,he was TERRIBLE,and the fact hes now looking good in your league,shows us all that despite what the ignorants south of the border think,your football is not as good as you think,not even CLOSE.Hooper will be a celtic player for at least another 2 seasons,i have zero doubt about that.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Well, this all makes for a good read but it's pointless trying to 'out banter' each other because the facts are the fact. Both clubs have reasons to be proud but neither has it all. Celtic IS an institution, one of the few clubs to have won the Champions League (European Cup), massive home gates, big stadium and a huge worldwide fan base. Lovely! The SPL, though, is still cr4p and frankly not a patch on the Portuguese League as was suggested above. Because of the above two points, Celtic has a far better chance of playing in Europe year on year than Saints. Meanwhile, Saints are top of the fourth best-supported league in Europe, and are something like the 15th best supported club in England this season (can't be bothered to check). In short, I'd love the supporter base and history enjoyed by Celtic but I wouldn't trade what they have for what we have. - a place waiting for us in the EPL - the most respected academy in England (perhaps the world) - a sound financial base - an astute chairman - a successful, young (ergo, fantastic) manager Oh, and the best fans in the world :-) (but I would say that!) As for Hooper? Good luck to him whichever team he's playing for come February. Oh, and Confucious, in case you're still wondering where Scotland is, most French people I know think it's in England, is populated by English Scots and is that bit of England where the whisky comes from. I tell them it's just off the Carlisle ring road near Tarraby. As said above, the facts are the facts.

Block 42 wrote:

BlandfordSaint wrote:
Best deal would be Sordell for 3M plus Puncheon. Young keen English striker for the future

Are u joking?sordell for 3 mill?hooper is young and english and is a far better player.no ambition my friend.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Vordhosbn wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Is the Scottish PL technically gifted then? Do you have a player the calibre of Cahill like Bolton did? Martin Petrov? Or how about someone like Victor Moses at Wigan? Or Hugo Rodallega? No, didn't think so, you have Samaras, says it all...

fifa list from this week of young players to watch who will be the next superstars......

jamie forrest from celtic...


and who exactly from england.............


.......no a single player

lol

haillllllllllllllll
hailllllllllllllllll


llllll

That's what FIFA said?

FIFA?

Sepp Blatter's lot?

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

P.S. Luke Shaw?

OSPREYSAINT wrote:

irishedd1 wrote: how arrogant are you lot. Firstly stop tapping up other clubs players. Secondly coments about holding back his career are ridiculous. you might be having a good season but your club has found its level, THE CHAMPIONSHIP. Hooper can stay at celtic play in front of 60000 every 2 weeks get european football and global pre-season tours. OR go to your provincial club and get sold as soon as you get promoted and get a big offer. He ahs told you he isnt interested so like the ugly girl at the disco... leave the boy alone. hail hail

Another one who mistakes enthusiasm for arrogance, and it is not as if other Clubs have tapped up our young talent is it?

irishedd1 wrote:

Vordhosbn wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Is the Scottish PL technically gifted then? Do you have a player the calibre of Cahill like Bolton did? Martin Petrov? Or how about someone like Victor Moses at Wigan? Or Hugo Rodallega? No, didn't think so, you have Samaras, says it all...

fifa list from this week of young players to watch who will be the next superstars......

jamie forrest from celtic...


and who exactly from england.............

.......no a single player

lol

haillllllllllllllll
hailllllllllllllllll

llllll

seventh-junction wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Vordhosbn wrote:

irishedd1 wrote:

Block 42 wrote: So nice of stokes to hold back hoopers career...good friend

stokes is telling hooper his career will be better served at celtic rather than a yo yo club like you lot. i sure hooper wants o use his skills as a striker just trying to eek out results against wigan and bolton in a league that is technically rubbish, oh and thats only if you do get promoted for a whole season before you head back down hail hail and a few extra hail hails

Is the Scottish PL technically gifted then? Do you have a player the calibre of Cahill like Bolton did? Martin Petrov? Or how about someone like Victor Moses at Wigan? Or Hugo Rodallega? No, didn't think so, you have Samaras, says it all...

fifa list from this week of young players to watch who will be the next superstars......

jamie forrest from celtic...


and who exactly from england.............



.......no a single player

lol

haillllllllllllllll
hailllllllllllllllll



llllll

That's what FIFA said?

FIFA?

Sepp Blatter's lot?

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

P.S. Luke Shaw?

FIFA 2012 the game?

Chipster wrote:
Going off topic, there are reports that some of the BHA players have been arrested on suspician of sexual assault. There was no indication of whether the victim/victims were male of female!!!!!!!.......

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ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Chipster wrote:
Going off topic, there are reports that some of the BHA players have been arrested on suspician of sexual assault. There was no indication of whether the victim/victims were male of female!!!!!!!....... ...

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Jobbies.

ghk230473 wrote:

Super_Hooper88 wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Jobbies.

Puncheon is up there with saints reps

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Chipster wrote:
Going off topic, there are reports that some of the BHA players have been arrested on suspician of sexual assault. There was no indication of whether the victim/victims were male of female!!!!!!!....... ...

Beat me to it - you bugger!

thomasupton wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Where did you read that?

Sally Hamilton Original wrote:
you scotts make me laugh.. you have small d1ck syndrome, fighting for independence talking about for ages, declare that thats what you are going to do, then................

..............have to wait for the battle of flippin Braveheart in 2050 ! LOL you lot are a joke

ghk230473 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Where did you read that?

If I tell, you'll know more than me! It's close.

thomasupton wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:

thomasupton wrote:

ghk230473 wrote:
Latest news...... Hooper close to handing in transfer request! Saints may have him for Leicester game?

Where did you read that?

If I tell, you'll know more than me! It's close.

You still sticking with that?

F Fan wrote:
And here I was worrying about anti-English sentiment in Scotland. Doesn’t seem to be anything like as bad as the Little Englander, xenophobic, homophobic garbage sprouted on here by my fellow Saints fans today. Have you not noticed the work our Club does to cut out the racism and the homophobia that blights football? You should be ashamed of yourselves.


And the arrogance of it! As though we were one of the world’s great clubs. We averaged something like 15,000 in League 1. We will probably average around 28-30,000 this year. Celtic get around double that every season, mostly playing small clubs who average around 8,000, if that, in their home games. Rangers are similar.


TV money and bad management has damaged Scottish football terribly. And yes, Celtic and Rangers are about Championship level at the moment because of that. But they are massive clubs by any world comparison with respect to fan base and world wide reputation. In the EPL, La Liga, Serie A etc. they would be right up there at the top. And yes, of course the SPL has been a two horse race every year since Aberdeen and Dundee United overtook them for a while in the 1980s. Pretty much the same situation in most small countries. And how many times has any Spanish Club apart from the big two won La liga in that time – three. Real and Barca played each other nine times last year - much more, I think, than the Old Firm.

In Italy, five outside of Juve and the two Milan clubs have been champions over the same period. Only in Germany is it more evenly spread and that is no accident – there the game is organised to help ensure that kind of dominance doesn’t happen – a good model for this country.

The religious bigotry that blights Glasgow is of course reflected in its biggest two football clubs – just another form of racism. It is quite nauseating and I am glad to see that the Scottish Government is doing something about it, and the two clubs are beginning to at least make the right noises. I have only ever witnessed such a poisonous atmosphere between one other set of clubs that gets anywhere near the Old Firm and that is …. er ….. Southampton and Portsmouth. Football is great. Some of the fans, including some of ours, are a disgrace.

F Fan wrote:
And here I was worrying about anti-English sentiment in Scotland. Doesn’t seem to be anything like as bad as the Little Englander, xenophobic, homophobic garbage sprouted on here by my fellow Saints fans today. Have you not noticed the work our Club does to cut out the racism and the homophobia that blights football? You should be ashamed of yourselves.


And the arrogance of it! As though we were one of the world’s great clubs. We averaged something like 15,000 in League 1. We will probably average around 28-30,000 this year. Celtic get around double that every season, mostly playing small clubs who average around 8,000, if that, in their home games. Rangers are similar.


TV money and bad management has damaged Scottish football terribly. And yes, Celtic and Rangers are about Championship level at the moment because of that. But they are massive clubs by any world comparison with respect to fan base and world wide reputation. In the EPL, La Liga, Serie A etc. they would be right up there at the top. And yes, of course the SPL has been a two horse race every year since Aberdeen and Dundee United overtook them for a while in the 1980s. Pretty much the same situation in most small countries. And how many times has any Spanish Club apart from the big two won La liga in that time – three. Real and Barca played each other nine times last year - much more, I think, than the Old Firm.

In Italy, five outside of Juve and the two Milan clubs have been champions over the same period. Only in Germany is it more evenly spread and that is no accident – there the game is organised to help ensure that kind of dominance doesn’t happen – a good model for this country.

The religious bigotry that blights Glasgow is of course reflected in its biggest two football clubs – just another form of racism. It is quite nauseating and I am glad to see that the Scottish Government is doing something about it, and the two clubs are beginning to at least make the right noises. I have only ever witnessed such a poisonous atmosphere between one other set of clubs that gets anywhere near the Old Firm and that is …. er ….. Southampton and Portsmouth. Football is great. Some of the fans, including some of ours, are a disgrace.

F Fan wrote:
Climbed down right now. Feel better now that I have got it off my chest, though!

Baddesley Bill wrote:
There was a time when we'd have just crossed the border and taken Hooper on a free (and burned a few villages along the way)...if only it wasn't for that pesky Robert the Bruce! ;O)

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

F Fan wrote:
Climbed down right now. Feel better now that I have got it off my chest, though!

They started it!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:
There was a time when we'd have just crossed the border and taken Hooper on a free (and burned a few villages along the way)...if only it wasn't for that pesky Robert the Bruce! ;O)

Long way to go for a spot of rape and pillage. Brighton's much nearer... :)

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: There was a time when we'd have just crossed the border and taken Hooper on a free (and burned a few villages along the way)...if only it wasn't for that pesky Robert the Bruce! ;O)

Long way to go for a spot of rape and pillage. Brighton's much nearer... :)

It would appear that BHA are quite accustomed to a bit of rape n pillage...that's what happens when you put a monkey in charge!

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote:

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:

Baddesley Bill wrote: There was a time when we'd have just crossed the border and taken Hooper on a free (and burned a few villages along the way)...if only it wasn't for that pesky Robert the Bruce! ;O)

Long way to go for a spot of rape and pillage. Brighton's much nearer... :)

It would appear that BHA are quite accustomed to a bit of rape n pillage...that's what happens when you put a monkey in charge!

Yep, we told them but they didn't listen did they? Nor did the Cherries (silly name) and the skates don't either. Silly skates.