Barton handed heaviest FA punishment since Prutton's Saints ban (From Daily Echo)

Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

If QPR ship him on someone will pay his wages and think they can tame him. I'd have loved to have played against him to wind him up.

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

They should deploy some rugby rules. Award a free kick and if someone complains move it up the ground, and if it ends up in the penalty box, then its a penalty.

SaintMax wrote:
If QPR ship him on someone will pay his wages and think they can tame him. I'd have loved to have played against him to wind him up.

thing is , he was not "wound up". he was kicked and he lashed out at tevez who then feigned injury and fell to the ground. Then after he was red carded he admitted he tried to get one of their sent off to by dead legging on the ref's blind side... the head gesture to Kompany was also calculated. he clearly was not going to make contact, he was just trying to even things up. Totally unjustified behaviour but he was not seeing red mist... the days of winding him up are long gone but he still courts trouble it seems , like a magnet...

If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

he did none of those three. the only one who did was tevez, he kicked joey... you can't sack him for not kicking, not punching and not headbutting someone !?!? he hit tevez with the back of his arm, dead-legged a player and made a head-gesture....

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Barton has been found guilty of 2 counts of "violent conduct".
Yes, I agree Tevez had involvement in the situation.
Barton is not a young kid, he is a seasoned pro,he should be able to deal with this by now.
As for Bale and Young's cheating that you mention,if the powers to be, deem that these players are doing so then they have to deal with it.
They can ban and fine them, to make them an example to others.
Violence and cheating have to be irradicated.
COYR

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

I have to agree with you, though my work isnt based upon a contact sport. MGRA, are you a closet QPR fan or something? Just trying to eventhings up!? Did you see Stuart Pearce in the Euro programme last night when he was openly head butted by Boli, but just got up and carried on blood streaming down his face? There was no immediate retaliation but you can bet your arse there ultimately was some come upence.. No pathetic kneeing, or feigning head butts.

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote: If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

he did none of those three. the only one who did was tevez, he kicked joey... you can't sack him for not kicking, not punching and not headbutting someone !?!? he hit tevez with the back of his arm, dead-legged a player and made a head-gesture....

fact is he is a tw@t and has always been one and deserves his punishment, he simply has no self control. defend him all you like but your the only one.

I am not defending him. I am no QPR fan. He just does not deserve a 12 match ban, but the baying crowd demanded it so the FA did the usual...
Everyone here re-writes what actually happened to satisfy their prejudices. The fact remains he did not headbutt anyone or try to, he did not kick anyone ( he deadlegged like John Terry did ) , he did not punch anyone or elbow anyone ( he hit Tevez with the back of his arm ) .... the girls in blue all fell to the floor writhing in agony and then jumped up and ran around right as rain... he should be treated like anyone else, anyone else would have got a 6 match ban.... but as always in this country , we love prejudice and biggotry , its a national passtime.

MGRA wrote:
I am not defending him. I am no QPR fan. He just does not deserve a 12 match ban, but the baying crowd demanded it so the FA did the usual... Everyone here re-writes what actually happened to satisfy their prejudices. The fact remains he did not headbutt anyone or try to, he did not kick anyone ( he deadlegged like John Terry did ) , he did not punch anyone or elbow anyone ( he hit Tevez with the back of his arm ) .... the girls in blue all fell to the floor writhing in agony and then jumped up and ran around right as rain... he should be treated like anyone else, anyone else would have got a 6 match ban.... but as always in this country , we love prejudice and biggotry , its a national passtime.

you may have his poster on your wall but we don't. both on and off the pitch he behaves like a tw@t, so go to the QPR site and preach your nonsense cos we all think it's great that he got his just deserts.

SaintMax wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

I have to agree with you, though my work isnt based upon a contact sport. MGRA, are you a closet QPR fan or something? Just trying to eventhings up!? Did you see Stuart Pearce in the Euro programme last night when he was openly head butted by Boli, but just got up and carried on blood streaming down his face? There was no immediate retaliation but you can bet your arse there ultimately was some come upence.. No pathetic kneeing, or feigning head butts.

I was quoting JB . He is on record as saying the deadleg was calculated to try and provoke a reaction. Sorry I assumed you guys had the full facts of this story. you clearly don't. Actually as I am writing this then maybe as that was "bringing the game into disrepute" then I could see a 3 match (red card ) + 3 match ( dead leg ) + 3 match (btgid ) = 9 match ban..... still can't see 12 tho...

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote: Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him? Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been. The man appears to have no self control. His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids. No place in football, no place in society. COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Of course JB is 'an easy target', he's a moron! I also consider drink drivers, burglars and axe murderers easy targets! I think you just like being controversial. I do agree about Tevez but even so, if an elbow, a dead leg (when he's had about three minutes to cool down) and then an attempted head butt doesn't deserve a significant ban then I wouldn't want to be marked by you!

MGRA wrote:

SaintMax wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

I have to agree with you, though my work isnt based upon a contact sport. MGRA, are you a closet QPR fan or something? Just trying to eventhings up!? Did you see Stuart Pearce in the Euro programme last night when he was openly head butted by Boli, but just got up and carried on blood streaming down his face? There was no immediate retaliation but you can bet your arse there ultimately was some come upence.. No pathetic kneeing, or feigning head butts.

I was quoting JB . He is on record as saying the deadleg was calculated to try and provoke a reaction. Sorry I assumed you guys had the full facts of this story. you clearly don't. Actually as I am writing this then maybe as that was "bringing the game into disrepute" then I could see a 3 match (red card ) + 3 match ( dead leg ) + 3 match (btgid ) = 9 match ban..... still can't see 12 tho...

The other 3 is because he's a tw@t. Simples.

How can a 12 match ban be the heaviest since a 10 match ban. Surely 12 is more than 10?

St Retford wrote:
How can a 12 match ban be the heaviest since a 10 match ban. Surely 12 is more than 10?

Beat me to it, Retford. I had to read it twice and was still confused.

Meanwhile, MGRA, you seem to be missing the point(s).
1. He has history
2. If nothing else, then having been shown a red card, he had to walk. He might have wanted to shout and scream as he left the pitch but call it 'dead legging' or 'kicking', he still acted violently towards an opponent when his only acceptable course of action should have been to walk.

As for action by QPR, I hope they throw the book at him. That whole action (lose of a player + time added on) could well have been the 'straw' which cost QPR the match and, thus, had Bolton scored a winner at Stoke, would have cost QPR their Prem status.

Meanwhile, I'm still upset about Prutton. He was clearly in the wrong. He had been sent off and, like Barton, should have walked. However, what did he do to earn a 10-match ban? The hefty ban he got may well have been the difference between relegation and survival that season. We can all agree things have turned out fine now, but relegation and what happened afterwards almost finished off the club.

The FA continually fails to punish other players who have acted no better than Prutton did that day.

In short, the FA is as inconsistent as the refs they employ but at least the refs have the fair excuse that they have to act immediately whereas the members of the FA can sit and deliberate over their glasses of port and lemon for as long as they wish.

WobblyCat wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote: Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him? Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been. The man appears to have no self control. His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids. No place in football, no place in society. COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Of course JB is 'an easy target', he's a moron! I also consider drink drivers, burglars and axe murderers easy targets! I think you just like being controversial. I do agree about Tevez but even so, if an elbow, a dead leg (when he's had about three minutes to cool down) and then an attempted head butt doesn't deserve a significant ban then I wouldn't want to be marked by you!

I agree with MGRA Tevez got away with it. But in football the person who retaliates always comes off worse as I found out a few times in my late teens/early twenties.

On video evidence Tevez deserved at least a three match ban. If he hadn't kicked Barton none of it would have happened.

But, Barton is an attention seeking nut case who needs to be punished.

He is predictably, unpredictable at all times.

SaintMax wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

They should deploy some rugby rules. Award a free kick and if someone complains move it up the ground, and if it ends up in the penalty box, then its a penalty.

I've been saying that for 40 years, including if they don't move back 10 yards immediately for a free kick to be taken. Also, more recently, the sin bin idea might be more appropriate at times than sending off...I could go on...

St Retford wrote:
How can a 12 match ban be the heaviest since a 10 match ban. Surely 12 is more than 10?

Excellent debate.
I am a Manchester born Manchester City fan. Maybe you guys will remember when Barton was playing for City. He carried out some cowardly and serious acts of violence against his own team-mates off the field of play presumably because he is inately a cowardly scum-bag. You can take the man out of the back streets of Liverpool but you can't take the back streets of Liverpool out of the man. No disrespect to Liverpool per se but life in the back streets of many cities in the UK are tough and it breeds tough people. It's a great shame that Barton's undoubted footballing talents are being wasted by his own inability to conduct himself like a mature professional footballer.
For me the three incidents were no more than minor happenings in a contact sport in which nobody actually got hurt. It was a showcase match being watched by the world and Barton's idiocy brought shame to the English Premiership. I don't admire Tevez for making too much of being pushed/slapped or whatever. Tevez did as much to invite the reaction from Barton. All very childish. Sticking his knee into the back of Aguero's knee to make him collapse is the sort of thing that Barton probably did all the time to other kids in the playground. Again all very childish. Of course Aguero made the most of it. Don't they all? Feigning the head-butt at Balotelli (?) as he was walking off was the silliest of the three incidents.
After a lifetime of petty thuggery on and off the field of play he really deserves all the punishment coming to him for the following reasons:
(1)Badly letting down his profession and his club once again and with the world watching.
(2)Wasting his footballing talent with his incessant posturing thuggery and pettiness.
(3)Failing to see what an adverse impact he is having on young footballer players throughout the land.
If QPR sack him some other club will pick him up for sure because (sadly) morals do tend to take a back seat in the professional game.
Barton is not alone in failing to appreciate just how lucky he is to be able to perform a talent at the highest level and get payed lots of money for doing it.
He is a complete fool.

MGRA wrote:
I am not defending him. I am no QPR fan. He just does not deserve a 12 match ban, but the baying crowd demanded it so the FA did the usual...
Everyone here re-writes what actually happened to satisfy their prejudices. The fact remains he did not headbutt anyone or try to, he did not kick anyone ( he deadlegged like John Terry did ) , he did not punch anyone or elbow anyone ( he hit Tevez with the back of his arm ) .... the girls in blue all fell to the floor writhing in agony and then jumped up and ran around right as rain... he should be treated like anyone else, anyone else would have got a 6 match ban.... but as always in this country , we love prejudice and biggotry , its a national passtime.

I'm no QPR fan either. I'm Saints through and through......but have to agree that the 12 match is way over the top. Joey Barton is great entertainment.

many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

The mans a joke, he has all that talent and throws it away by being a thug. I'd say 12 matches is fair enough, his second sending off of the season so 4 matches, then what he did to Aguero would have equated to a second sending off, so 5 matches, and not leaving the field and squaring up to Kompany the other 3 matches. He's not being victimised, he went down easily earlier in the campaign against Gervinho to get him sent off without punishment, so what goes around comes around.

MGRA wrote:
many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

Maybe you should rewatch the Prutton incident and take to belatedly defending him, then. If he deserved 10 matches, Barton (and plenty of others) deserve life bans!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

Maybe you should rewatch the Prutton incident and take to belatedly defending him, then. If he deserved 10 matches, Barton (and plenty of others) deserve life bans!

most professional footballers disagree with you. One of them Danny Mills spoke eloquently about it.

MGRA wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

Maybe you should rewatch the Prutton incident and take to belatedly defending him, then. If he deserved 10 matches, Barton (and plenty of others) deserve life bans!

most professional footballers disagree with you. One of them Danny Mills spoke eloquently about it.

Danny Mills? Oh, right!

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

Maybe you should rewatch the Prutton incident and take to belatedly defending him, then. If he deserved 10 matches, Barton (and plenty of others) deserve life bans!

most professional footballers disagree with you. One of them Danny Mills spoke eloquently about it.

Danny Mills? Oh, right!

btw, did Barton's Twitter outburst get taken into consideration?

I always jus tthink back to the CCTV footage of him punching that guy in the street whilst out for a night. A complete savage and almost made me sick to think someone would punch an dpummel someones face with such force. DIRTY MAN. What he's done on the field is kids play compared and no worse than roy keane.

mayfly wrote:

St Retford wrote: How can a 12 match ban be the heaviest since a 10 match ban. Surely 12 is more than 10?

Excellent debate. I am a Manchester born Manchester City fan. Maybe you guys will remember when Barton was playing for City. He carried out some cowardly and serious acts of violence against his own team-mates off the field of play presumably because he is inately a cowardly scum-bag. You can take the man out of the back streets of Liverpool but you can't take the back streets of Liverpool out of the man. No disrespect to Liverpool per se but life in the back streets of many cities in the UK are tough and it breeds tough people. It's a great shame that Barton's undoubted footballing talents are being wasted by his own inability to conduct himself like a mature professional footballer. For me the three incidents were no more than minor happenings in a contact sport in which nobody actually got hurt. It was a showcase match being watched by the world and Barton's idiocy brought shame to the English Premiership. I don't admire Tevez for making too much of being pushed/slapped or whatever. Tevez did as much to invite the reaction from Barton. All very childish. Sticking his knee into the back of Aguero's knee to make him collapse is the sort of thing that Barton probably did all the time to other kids in the playground. Again all very childish. Of course Aguero made the most of it. Don't they all? Feigning the head-butt at Balotelli (?) as he was walking off was the silliest of the three incidents. After a lifetime of petty thuggery on and off the field of play he really deserves all the punishment coming to him for the following reasons: (1)Badly letting down his profession and his club once again and with the world watching. (2)Wasting his footballing talent with his incessant posturing thuggery and pettiness. (3)Failing to see what an adverse impact he is having on young footballer players throughout the land. If QPR sack him some other club will pick him up for sure because (sadly) morals do tend to take a back seat in the professional game. Barton is not alone in failing to appreciate just how lucky he is to be able to perform a talent at the highest level and get payed lots of money for doing it. He is a complete fool.

Do you live in Southampton now? That's spooky, because I'm a Southampton-born Southampton fan now living in Manchester.

Personally, I didn't think the whole Barton thing was that bad. It was handbags, frankly. If it had happened in rugby (and it does all the time) it would have been laughed off as a 'bit of nonsense'.

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

Strasbourg Saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:
many of you are missing my point... I did not say anything other than he should be treated like anyone else. He has no suspended sentences hanging over him so unless the FA have changed their own rule book recently previous conduct can only be considered to negate mitigating circumstances. If you watch the video of the incident(s) its clear he did not headbutt anyone, nor did he attempt to headbutt anyone. He clearly just tried to insight Kompany to react. 12 games is ridiculous and just a mob-mentality reaction to the press. The FA are senile old sheep who have no rational free will and can not function without taking the lead from where-ever. Also Joey was badly let down by Gordon Taylor who is supposed to represent him. GT just slagged him off without even mentioning Tevez. I just think it should be an even playing field for all. Most people I have spoken to think a 6-9 game ban was what he should have got.... aling with a 3 game ban for Tevez...

Maybe you should rewatch the Prutton incident and take to belatedly defending him, then. If he deserved 10 matches, Barton (and plenty of others) deserve life bans!

most professional footballers disagree with you. One of them Danny Mills spoke eloquently about it.

Danny Mills? Oh, right!

btw, did Barton's Twitter outburst get taken into consideration?

Not sure given the gravity of his matchday antics that they would have paid too much attention to that, especially since Shearer/Lineker/Hans
en did their usual berm-licky FA slopey shoulders school boy stuff on MOTD.... then Lineker start his twitter rubbish as well, that all gets embarrassing.... I notice today the PFA have changed their tune regarding JB , apparently after GTs astonishing attack on JB, there was a lot of feedback from other pros and its safe to say GT misjudged the mood.

The FA should have given him a redundancy notice.

People like him have no place in football, be it professional or amateur.

Do the FA really think that their punishment will change him? No other punishment that has been handed out has had any effect whatsoever, except to his bank balance.

Linesman wrote:
The FA should have given him a redundancy notice.

People like him have no place in football, be it professional or amateur.

Do the FA really think that their punishment will change him? No other punishment that has been handed out has had any effect whatsoever, except to his bank balance.

their punishment does not have to change him. Its upto his club to regulate his behaviour. The FA are just the governing body. Its funny that you don't hear the same calls to leave football thrown towards notorious thug John Terry, his assault on that player in the semi was hardly heat-of-moment , it certainly was not in retaliation to anything...

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

he did none of those three. the only one who did was tevez, he kicked joey... you can't sack him for not kicking, not punching and not headbutting someone !?!? he hit tevez with the back of his arm, dead-legged a player and made a head-gesture....

I think the severity of the punishment is partly to do with the fact the JB admitted he purposely tried to injure Aguero. By saying that he basically admitted assault (physically trying to injure someone) and ungentlemanly conduct (trying to take an opposition player out of the game).

Whether you like it or not, kneeing someone with the intention of dead-legging them would be classed as an assault on that person, and admitting it means it was in no way accidental.

So, overall, 12 matches seems fair enough to me.

St Retford wrote:

mayfly wrote:

St Retford wrote: How can a 12 match ban be the heaviest since a 10 match ban. Surely 12 is more than 10?

Excellent debate. I am a Manchester born Manchester City fan. Maybe you guys will remember when Barton was playing for City. He carried out some cowardly and serious acts of violence against his own team-mates off the field of play presumably because he is inately a cowardly scum-bag. You can take the man out of the back streets of Liverpool but you can't take the back streets of Liverpool out of the man. No disrespect to Liverpool per se but life in the back streets of many cities in the UK are tough and it breeds tough people. It's a great shame that Barton's undoubted footballing talents are being wasted by his own inability to conduct himself like a mature professional footballer. For me the three incidents were no more than minor happenings in a contact sport in which nobody actually got hurt. It was a showcase match being watched by the world and Barton's idiocy brought shame to the English Premiership. I don't admire Tevez for making too much of being pushed/slapped or whatever. Tevez did as much to invite the reaction from Barton. All very childish. Sticking his knee into the back of Aguero's knee to make him collapse is the sort of thing that Barton probably did all the time to other kids in the playground. Again all very childish. Of course Aguero made the most of it. Don't they all? Feigning the head-butt at Balotelli (?) as he was walking off was the silliest of the three incidents. After a lifetime of petty thuggery on and off the field of play he really deserves all the punishment coming to him for the following reasons: (1)Badly letting down his profession and his club once again and with the world watching. (2)Wasting his footballing talent with his incessant posturing thuggery and pettiness. (3)Failing to see what an adverse impact he is having on young footballer players throughout the land. If QPR sack him some other club will pick him up for sure because (sadly) morals do tend to take a back seat in the professional game. Barton is not alone in failing to appreciate just how lucky he is to be able to perform a talent at the highest level and get payed lots of money for doing it. He is a complete fool.

Do you live in Southampton now? That's spooky, because I'm a Southampton-born Southampton fan now living in Manchester. Personally, I didn't think the whole Barton thing was that bad. It was handbags, frankly. If it had happened in rugby (and it does all the time) it would have been laughed off as a 'bit of nonsense'.

Yes St Retford I come from Sale which is just down the road from Stretford as you will know. I have been in the south for a long time now and I have been a Saints season ticket holder for several years. I wanted some live football when I came down here but strangely never felt an urge to watch Pompey. I have nothing against Pompey but my views on Manure are probably similar to the views of the average Saints fan on Pompey. That's the way it goes.
When City come to town I shall be sitting on my hands hoping for an exciting 5-5 draw.
Do you get to see Man City?

Sainty saint saint wrote:

MGRA wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:
If I was at work and I kicked,punched or headbutted a colleague I would be sacked,simple.

he did none of those three. the only one who did was tevez, he kicked joey... you can't sack him for not kicking, not punching and not headbutting someone !?!? he hit tevez with the back of his arm, dead-legged a player and made a head-gesture....

I think the severity of the punishment is partly to do with the fact the JB admitted he purposely tried to injure Aguero. By saying that he basically admitted assault (physically trying to injure someone) and ungentlemanly conduct (trying to take an opposition player out of the game).

Whether you like it or not, kneeing someone with the intention of dead-legging them would be classed as an assault on that person, and admitting it means it was in no way accidental.

So, overall, 12 matches seems fair enough to me.

so how come he gets 3 match ban plus for that micro-incident when John Terry gets the standard red-card punishment !?

MGRA, fancy a pint?

SaintMax wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

They should deploy some rugby rules. Award a free kick and if someone complains move it up the ground, and if it ends up in the penalty box, then its a penalty.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. One weekend of applying this rule and all the ref bullying tactics would stop.

I played rugby under these rules and I've watched gobby players being wrestled to the ground by their own team to shut them up after losing 30 metres with three whinges at the ref.

1. Barton is a complete knob
2. 12 games is excessive compared to bans handed out for tackles resulting in serious injury
3. The lad wouldn't have lasted ten minutes against a proper hard man such as Jimmy Case

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote:
Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him?
Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been.
The man appears to have no self control.
His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids.
No place in football, no place in society.
COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Proof you talk utter rubbish, MGRA!

He should be banned for life!

WobblyCat wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote: Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him? Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been. The man appears to have no self control. His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids. No place in football, no place in society. COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Of course JB is 'an easy target', he's a moron! I also consider drink drivers, burglars and axe murderers easy targets! I think you just like being controversial. I do agree about Tevez but even so, if an elbow, a dead leg (when he's had about three minutes to cool down) and then an attempted head butt doesn't deserve a significant ban then I wouldn't want to be marked by you!

I don't think he was ever convicted of murder!
Check out JimmyCorkhills blog for the fullSP

as least prutton was funny , barton !!! nah just a thug in a football shirt

StevieSteve wrote:

MGRA wrote:

SFCOLDBOY wrote: Will QPR now take appropriate measures against him? Nothing seems to change with him wherever he has been. The man appears to have no self control. His behaviour and others like him are being mirrored by kids. No place in football, no place in society. COYR.

JB gets unfair treatment. 12 matches is way over the top. He should have got an extra 3 for the dead leg and that should have been that..... Tevez got off scott free for his part in all that.... everyone like to have a pop at Joey, easy target. BBC pundits all climbed on the bandwagon as well and the media almost demanded this ban. Typical of this country. And as for behaviour being mirrored by kids ... when are Bale and Young going to be banned for 12 matches for cheating ?? the answer is never and they have a far worse effect on the game than JB...

Proof you talk utter rubbish, MGRA! He should be banned for life!

Not at all, people diving are ruining this game yet get away with it. barton did not say he was trying to injure somebody to take them out the game, he was trying to get a city player to fight back to get sent off. slight difference