Büttner move now down to Saints, claims agent

Alexander Büttner Alexander Büttner

ALEXANDER Büttner’s proposed transfer to Saints still remains alive, according to the player’s agent.

Vitesse Arnhem announced yesterday that a deal for the full-back had become “uncertain”.

The Dutch side, who have already agreed a fee with Saints, cited demands made by a third party as the reason for Büttner’s move verging on collapse.

However, the 23-year-old’s representative, Aleksandar Bursac, had not given up hope yesterday that the transfer would still go ahead.

“There was an issue, and I think that one has been resolved,” he said.

Bursac added his belief that it is now up to Saints whether the move proceeds.

“The boy himself wants to come to Southampton and I don’t foresee any issues unless Southampton pull the plug,” he said.

Neither Vitesse nor Bursac would reveal what the stumbling block has been or who the “third party” is.

The Eredivisie outfit did confirm, though, that Saints had acted properly throughout and were not to blame for the move stalling.

Both clubs had agreed a fee – thought to be about £3m – last Friday.

For full story and more Saints news, don't miss today's Daily Echo.

Comments(92)

OSPREYSAINT says...
6:44am Wed 11 Jul 12

Just get on with it then.

EAGLESAINT says...
6:49am Wed 11 Jul 12

Is his agent one of the meerkats ??

EAGLESAINT says...
6:49am Wed 11 Jul 12

Is his agent one of the meerkats ??

swiss_saint says...
7:03am Wed 11 Jul 12

Let's not hope that this turns into some kind of Carlos Tevez type scandale. Its a shame it hasn't gone through smoothly i would have liked to have seen him come to Switzerland for the Friendlies.

montecristosaint says...
7:10am Wed 11 Jul 12

If there is any evidence at all that the player tried to get some sort of additional pay out after negotiations had been concluded this deal will not go through, and I fear this may have been the case.Lets hope not...

White and red till dead says...
7:19am Wed 11 Jul 12

It won't happen. Too much publicity for NC.

olddellsaint says...
7:31am Wed 11 Jul 12

'Confused.com'

franiow says...
7:33am Wed 11 Jul 12

Don't think NC will like this publicity, but don't think he is as sensitive as we think. Depends how much he wants this guy and if he thinks he will trouble in the future.

St.Yorkie says...
7:44am Wed 11 Jul 12

NC is a business man - if he is the right player for the club he will come! After all he has forgiven Puncheon...!

Rackers73 says...
7:51am Wed 11 Jul 12

On a separate thread, just seen the headlines in The Sun from Lundekvam claiming spot fixing was comman at Saints when he was playing.

If true this is not the sort of publicity the club will need going into the new season.

franiow says...
8:01am Wed 11 Jul 12

Le Tissier said same thing in his autobiography.

Saintsayer II says...
8:06am Wed 11 Jul 12

Rackers73 wrote:
On a separate thread, just seen the headlines in The Sun from Lundekvam claiming spot fixing was comman at Saints when he was playing.

If true this is not the sort of publicity the club will need going into the new season.
Why couldn't he keep his big gob shut As if we haven't endured enough over the last 10 years this greedy waste of space decides to drag the clubs name back into the dirt If it is ever shown that MLT had a hand in any of this his sky contract won't last long

chunkyrussell says...
8:10am Wed 11 Jul 12

So, basically, we've signed 1 player.

St Retford says...
8:26am Wed 11 Jul 12

Saintsayer II wrote:
Rackers73 wrote:
On a separate thread, just seen the headlines in The Sun from Lundekvam claiming spot fixing was comman at Saints when he was playing.

If true this is not the sort of publicity the club will need going into the new season.
Why couldn't he keep his big gob shut As if we haven't endured enough over the last 10 years this greedy waste of space decides to drag the clubs name back into the dirt If it is ever shown that MLT had a hand in any of this his sky contract won't last long
Le Tiss's involvement in spread betting is well documented and it's in his own book. It's one of the funniest things in there.

business-guru says...
8:33am Wed 11 Jul 12

This player clearly does not want to play for Saints,,, he is just interested in money so hopefully this will fall thru....

george chivers says...
8:40am Wed 11 Jul 12

chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.

truelysaints says...
8:48am Wed 11 Jul 12

White and red till dead wrote:
It won't happen. Too much publicity for NC.
I agree.

bobbystokeslovechild says...
8:49am Wed 11 Jul 12

All this nonsense is why club won't comment on transfers until they're done. As for Claus time you got on the bus ... Back to Norway ( well he can't drive himself)

magnette says...
9:04am Wed 11 Jul 12

Off subject:
Looks like Kelv will stay number 1, there's a young Ipswich keeper on trial called Cody Cropper 19.

Just another reader says...
9:05am Wed 11 Jul 12

Be interesting to see if Claus rears his head and explains his accusations. Why he felt the need to reveal this lord only knows, must be short of cash.

Dickosfc says...
9:06am Wed 11 Jul 12

Claus, what a kn0b! Pefect timing you t!t.......

truelysaints says...
9:12am Wed 11 Jul 12

I'm really surprised with NC and NA for their slowness in strengthening the team for the coming season seeing as our first friendly is in 3 days. Others are far more ahead. I hope they are not a coalition with plenty of promises but little inaction especially as the premiership is a very different ball game needing different management skills, and whether we like it or not spending resources (beyond the 40m) and negotiating skills. I'm feeling decidedly uncomfortable about where we are in the new player purchase. At first I wondered in disbelief why NA is favourite to loose his job during the next season, but now I'm not so sure. He has excellent management skills and knowledge of players in the lower divisions but may struggle in the Premier. I really hope I'm wrong but what is happening in the new player purchase does not inspire me.

Jesus_02 says...
9:15am Wed 11 Jul 12

I imagine that its Agent demands to Buttners club as they where the ones saying that they would not be pushed. Personaly I thionk that its been kept vague enough for Cortese. He wants to appear strong for future negotiation reasons, I dont think he will need to pull the plug to prove that he wont be pushed around.

santaclaus says...
9:17am Wed 11 Jul 12

About Claus, I would like to clarify something. I haven't read the Sun, but he got wuite some room in Norwegian papers as well.

This is neither a defense or a judgement of his statements, just some info on what the Norwegian papers wrote.

What he said was there was never an issue to fix a score or anything like that, but the minor things, like who gets the first throw in, and such. He describes it like a funny thing to do, but of course they also did it to make money. Illegal and immoral, no doubt, but still not as bad as to fix a score.

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:30am Wed 11 Jul 12

george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.

White and red till dead says...
9:30am Wed 11 Jul 12

truelysaints wrote:
I'm really surprised with NC and NA for their slowness in strengthening the team for the coming season seeing as our first friendly is in 3 days. Others are far more ahead. I hope they are not a coalition with plenty of promises but little inaction especially as the premiership is a very different ball game needing different management skills, and whether we like it or not spending resources (beyond the 40m) and negotiating skills. I'm feeling decidedly uncomfortable about where we are in the new player purchase. At first I wondered in disbelief why NA is favourite to loose his job during the next season, but now I'm not so sure. He has excellent management skills and knowledge of players in the lower divisions but may struggle in the Premier. I really hope I'm wrong but what is happening in the new player purchase does not inspire me.
We all know we'll only hear about it once the player has put pen to paper. Relax!

South London Saint says...
9:30am Wed 11 Jul 12

I see people are still in panic mode. Davis deal will be fine. Buttner deal is up to Saints, it is nothing to do with the player wanting more money, its strangely enough his Dad who believes he's owed money from the deal. I still reckon it will go through.

No need to panic, I am sure everything is under control.

On the Claus situation, not the brightest thing he's ever done. Hopefully that will blow over...eventually.

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:33am Wed 11 Jul 12

So, Claus was in The Sun!

The Sun - trash.

Claus - class Saints player.

Whatever the truth of the spot fixing, the facts about The Sun and Claus remain true.

billythesaint says...
9:41am Wed 11 Jul 12

Most teams don't have their entire squad ready by July the 12th so will everybody calm down. Yes, agents are scummy and receive huge fees but do we know it's the agent that is the "third party?" The article suggests not. These days, players have all sorts of leeches claiming they are owed this and that. This deal will be wrapped up by the end of the week I reckon, Davis will get clearance when this Newco Rangers guff blows out the window and we've got another keeper plus a couple of defenders coming. The season starts in more than 6 weeks. Summer starts in 7 I've been told. Relax and look forward to the good times again Panic Nation. And as for Claus, the players involved in any scam aren't here any more so who cares? Unless Jason Dodd was a major part of it, fleecing billions from the bookies and he brings the entire club to its knees! Oooh, the horror.

techsture says...
9:42am Wed 11 Jul 12

We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.

StevieSteve says...
9:49am Wed 11 Jul 12

business-guru wrote:
This player clearly does not want to play for Saints,,, he is just interested in money so hopefully this will fall thru....
I thought he said he thinks everything about Southampton was perfect and he doesn't want to be anywhere else next season than Saints!!! Personal terms have been agreed already, by the way! It's the third party that's the problem not the player or his agent!

Can you not be bothered to read or something?

long memory says...
9:50am Wed 11 Jul 12

truelysaints wrote:
I'm really surprised with NC and NA for their slowness in strengthening the team for the coming season seeing as our first friendly is in 3 days. Others are far more ahead. I hope they are not a coalition with plenty of promises but little inaction especially as the premiership is a very different ball game needing different management skills, and whether we like it or not spending resources (beyond the 40m) and negotiating skills. I'm feeling decidedly uncomfortable about where we are in the new player purchase. At first I wondered in disbelief why NA is favourite to loose his job during the next season, but now I'm not so sure. He has excellent management skills and knowledge of players in the lower divisions but may struggle in the Premier. I really hope I'm wrong but what is happening in the new player purchase does not inspire me.
"Oh ye of little faith". NC will do what is right for the Saints, I have no doubt.

Folkestone Saint says...
10:07am Wed 11 Jul 12

Could it be that as Buttner put in a transfer request he misses out on a signing on fee or part of the transfer fee, and if it is an agent/hanger-on do they like sleeping with horse heads

puppy saint says...
10:08am Wed 11 Jul 12

Season Ticket Holder says......

I really think that people should state whether they are a season ticket holder or not at the top of their posts to save me reading some of the more depressed/twaddle/bu
dding hack journalist/ITK self important/certifiabl
e opinions expressed on here.

SO50 Saint says...
10:21am Wed 11 Jul 12

There's some depressed people on here. I'm sure NC and NA will get everything sorted by the start of the season from a Season ticket holder yet to receive his Season Ticket renewed online 2 weeks ago today. Has this been a problem for anyone else?

arrythecrook says...
10:30am Wed 11 Jul 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.
Absolutely agree.Wouldn't want Nicky Shorey here.Joseph Mills is a far better player. They must have more LB's than us.

I would expect deals to be happening behind the scenes and imagine at least three new signings soon.

Costa Baz says...
10:43am Wed 11 Jul 12

santaclaus wrote:
About Claus, I would like to clarify something. I haven't read the Sun, but he got wuite some room in Norwegian papers as well.

This is neither a defense or a judgement of his statements, just some info on what the Norwegian papers wrote.

What he said was there was never an issue to fix a score or anything like that, but the minor things, like who gets the first throw in, and such. He describes it like a funny thing to do, but of course they also did it to make money. Illegal and immoral, no doubt, but still not as bad as to fix a score.
Claus is quoted as saying
"We could make deals with the opposing captain about, for example, betting on the first throw, the first corner, who started with the ball, a yellow card or a penalty."

The last word being penalty, tells you this wasn't just "fun".

If you are betting on when penalties will occur, then you WILL be influencing results, one way or another.

I have been at many games when we have conceded penalties and have been left with the question "Why did he do that when it was not necessary?"
Maybe the answer has now been provided.

BracknellSaint says...
10:48am Wed 11 Jul 12

techsture wrote:
We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.
Skunt?

St.Yorkie says...
10:58am Wed 11 Jul 12

puppy saint wrote:
Season Ticket Holder says...... I really think that people should state whether they are a season ticket holder or not at the top of their posts to save me reading some of the more depressed/twaddle/bu dding hack journalist/ITK self important/certifiabl e opinions expressed on here.
NASTY - Not A Season Ticket Yet writes...just for Puppy...The Bovril Dogs of War are amassing in the Itchen South for next season...
FWIW - Buttner or not - I don't really care...but we could do with a couple more signings.

Confucious says...
11:14am Wed 11 Jul 12

BracknellSaint wrote:
techsture wrote:
We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.
Skunt?
Or a mourner having to peel onions for the wake.

kissmya%% says...
11:19am Wed 11 Jul 12

I think nicky shorey could of done a good job for us , Why the bloody hell do we leave it late ! everytime we do this , Its like going to tesco at 9pm and wondering why all the do-nuts have gone !

Dickosfc says...
11:19am Wed 11 Jul 12

techsture wrote:
We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.
WOW!!! What a kick in the teeth for the lads who worked so hard to get us promoted last year. Fancy a job as an inspirational talker?
.
Did Derby have the likes of Lallana, Lambert, Sneiderlain, Cork to name just a few. We have some very good and promising players in our mix and they all love playing for Southampton! I admit a few additions are needed but blo0dy hell mate, try and cheer up a bit and put a little trust Cortese's way. Since him and the great Markus came in, have they let us down yet?? Back to back promotions in a 5yr plans will argue they haven’t.

Mush On The Beach says...
11:28am Wed 11 Jul 12

Confucious wrote:
BracknellSaint wrote:
techsture wrote:
We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.
Skunt?
Or a mourner having to peel onions for the wake.
Or even a Dwarf Skunt smoking dope who is feeling medium

kissmya%% says...
11:32am Wed 11 Jul 12

kissmya%% wrote:
I think nicky shorey could of done a good job for us , Why the bloody hell do we leave it late ! everytime we do this , Its like going to tesco at 9pm and wondering why all the do-nuts have gone !
Talking of do-nuts read the above two post :)

Saints+Wigan fan says...
11:36am Wed 11 Jul 12

Look at Wigan at the end of last year. There where many questions on Martinez on what he was doing with the poor quality of players and his passing football they played ... But the fans ''kept the faith'' Saints have a good squad and a good manager.

So Have a bit more faith and hopefully we can do a Wigan and beat the United and Arsenals and take points from City away. COYR.

RisingSon says...
11:37am Wed 11 Jul 12

As a double season ticket holder, would like to add my extremely important opinion.

Saints problems obviously stem from a lack of computers. I have heard from a reliable, anonymous source called George Ch. that Saints were unable to get the credit necessary to buy them. The result is this chaos related to getting new players in. I demand (or should that be I DEMAND) that NC gets this sorted ASAP.

Players will be queuing at the gates to join us after that.

Saints+Wigan fan says...
11:47am Wed 11 Jul 12

I think Rising son needs to stop sniffing glue ...

Saint. says...
11:47am Wed 11 Jul 12

Reading between the lines, and as the agent reveals nothing about the third party. I would say someone wanted to make on this deal. It did not come off, and now with egg on their faces it is up to Saints/NC to decide if this is a minor issue to overlook or is it a concern.

RisingSon says...
11:48am Wed 11 Jul 12

Glue! Just a boring train ride and some wins on here that brought it on.

RisingSon says...
11:49am Wed 11 Jul 12

Wins -> wums

randre says...
11:58am Wed 11 Jul 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.
I was thinking exactly the same Strasbourg Saint, well said.

randre says...
12:08pm Wed 11 Jul 12

techsture wrote:
We are doing down with less points then Derby unless some drastic transfer moves are made. Clubs name in the mud. Oh what a lovely summer.
Cheer up!! Relax, the club is after the right players and players who fit in with what we have. Personally I think we already have a good squad and the signings are meant to strengthen the squad, no point making rush signings. As far as the clubs name being in the mud, it is not... This story has been nowhere except in the Sun and if you read what Clause has said there is hardly anything which will blow the lid on football! Typical Sun reporting of blowing some low key comment into a story... it is also nothing to do with our current squad or owners. No story I'm happy to say, just small breezes of luke warm air!!

St Retford says...
12:09pm Wed 11 Jul 12

RisingSon wrote:
As a double season ticket holder, would like to add my extremely important opinion.

Saints problems obviously stem from a lack of computers. I have heard from a reliable, anonymous source called George Ch. that Saints were unable to get the credit necessary to buy them. The result is this chaos related to getting new players in. I demand (or should that be I DEMAND) that NC gets this sorted ASAP.

Players will be queuing at the gates to join us after that.
Haha - I'd forgotten about that. Poor us.

St Retford says...
12:10pm Wed 11 Jul 12

I know this is slightly off topic, but have any of you been to Peppa Pig World? Is it decent?

rocketone says...
12:26pm Wed 11 Jul 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
There's some depressed people on here. I'm sure NC and NA will get everything sorted by the start of the season from a Season ticket holder yet to receive his Season Ticket renewed online 2 weeks ago today. Has this been a problem for anyone else?
Yes, money out my account & no ticket. Someone yesterday said the problem is that Saints have only received £1. And have to claim full amount before sending ticket ! Do not know how that works but, heyho, plenty of time!!!

randre says...
12:29pm Wed 11 Jul 12

St Retford wrote:
I know this is slightly off topic, but have any of you been to Peppa Pig World? Is it decent?
I took the kids before Christmas and they were running the Winter Wonderland event. My two boys (3 & 6) enjoyed it loads and so in return I enjoyed it also... Ideal day out for young ones. I hope this helps!!

Come on you Saints!!

St Retford says...
12:37pm Wed 11 Jul 12

randre wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I know this is slightly off topic, but have any of you been to Peppa Pig World? Is it decent?
I took the kids before Christmas and they were running the Winter Wonderland event. My two boys (3 & 6) enjoyed it loads and so in return I enjoyed it also... Ideal day out for young ones. I hope this helps!!

Come on you Saints!!
Actually it does - cheers!

Over the Edge says...
12:39pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Mr Meerkat Aleksandar Bursac needs to go forth and multiply, we all know he is the 3rd party wanting slice of the pie.

puppy saint says...
12:52pm Wed 11 Jul 12

St Retford wrote:
randre wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I know this is slightly off topic, but have any of you been to Peppa Pig World? Is it decent?
I took the kids before Christmas and they were running the Winter Wonderland event. My two boys (3 & 6) enjoyed it loads and so in return I enjoyed it also... Ideal day out for young ones. I hope this helps!!

Come on you Saints!!
Actually it does - cheers!
Do they do a season ticket for Peppa Pig World?

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...
1:05pm Wed 11 Jul 12

I think there is some rubbish being spouted on the threads to day regarding players coming in. There six weeks to go before the season starts and to be perfectly honest I do not think we are that far behind Reading and Wet Pam. The signings they have both made are really average players, except the Russian who Reading have signed. Jay and Steve are quality signings. You know the old saying quality is better that quantity.
I see that Birmingham have signed a goal keeper today, so does that mean Butland is in the shop window. Spurs are now after the French goal keeper. Rumour has it that Spurs are considering our offer for Kyle Naughton. Once again a possible quality signing. I really don't know if the Buttner deal will go through. Along with the torch coming on Saturday to St Marys, as has happened in the past new players may be presented to the fans on Saturday.
My final word goes to the moaners, go and take a run and jump into the Solent as you are like a wet Summer in that town down the M27 which is not worth wasting energy mentioning the name. A life long Saint who does not have to use four letter words to make a valid point.

SO50 Saint says...
1:07pm Wed 11 Jul 12

rocketone says...
12:26pm Wed 11 Jul 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
There's some depressed people on here. I'm sure NC and NA will get everything sorted by the start of the season from a Season ticket holder yet to receive his Season Ticket renewed online 2 weeks ago today. Has this been a problem for anyone else?

Yes, money out my account & no ticket. Someone yesterday said the problem is that Saints have only received £1. And have to claim full amount before sending ticket ! Do not know how that works but, heyho, plenty of time!!!”

Oh dear won't be getting mine til next year some time then :)as I am one of the mugs who is doing it via DD

St Retford says...
1:20pm Wed 11 Jul 12

puppy saint wrote:
St Retford wrote:
randre wrote:
St Retford wrote:
I know this is slightly off topic, but have any of you been to Peppa Pig World? Is it decent?
I took the kids before Christmas and they were running the Winter Wonderland event. My two boys (3 & 6) enjoyed it loads and so in return I enjoyed it also... Ideal day out for young ones. I hope this helps!!

Come on you Saints!!
Actually it does - cheers!
Do they do a season ticket for Peppa Pig World?
Good point. Randre, do you have a season ticket there? If not I'm going to completely disregard your opinion because it's almost certainly wrong.

george chivers says...
1:26pm Wed 11 Jul 12

randre wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.
I was thinking exactly the same Strasbourg Saint, well said.
If you both prefer no new signings rather than the wrong ones, and who can say, who is good or bad until they have played. Then if the squad were to say stay as it is now, there is a good chance in my opinion, we would be relegated.

Nigel has done very well for us and I am very pleased with his efforts. But I wouldn't say some of his acquisitions are great, i.e. Fox and De Ridder. They have done a job but even for the Championship considering the number of starts and the quality of their performances and the money we paid for them, I wouldn't consider them to be good value for money because they are never going to cut in the PL.

And Forte, very poor. So it does concern me we aren't further forward in enhancing the squad and it also concerns me, given Nigel's track record how good future signings will be.

I look forward to some quality short term signings (2-3 weeks)
who will give us a decent chance of finishing say 15th in the PL.

Ashley Charles Pragnell says...
1:38pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Well said George you seem to always talk sense. You are a man with muturity and wisdom. Thus at times its needed on this site. I always enjoy reading your threads.

St Retford says...
1:41pm Wed 11 Jul 12

George, you worry too much about something you have literally no control over. Have you seen The Lion King? You should have a little dance around your front room singing "Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze / It means no worries for the rest of your days / It's our problem-free philosophy," and then have a lovely imaginary adventure with a warthog and a meerkat.

(I think it's a meercat, anyway.)

St Retford says...
1:48pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Ashley Charles Pragnell wrote:
Well said George you seem to always talk sense. You are a man with muturity and wisdom. Thus at times its needed on this site. I always enjoy reading your threads.
But he said the exact opposite of what you just said?

Plus, it's 'posts' rather than 'threads'. The thread is the whole thing.

St Retford says...
1:49pm Wed 11 Jul 12

PS Owen Hargreaves on a pay as you play, anyone?

Nope, me neither.

Confucious says...
2:58pm Wed 11 Jul 12

St Retford wrote:
George, you worry too much about something you have literally no control over. Have you seen The Lion King? You should have a little dance around your front room singing "Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze / It means no worries for the rest of your days / It's our problem-free philosophy," and then have a lovely imaginary adventure with a warthog and a meerkat.

(I think it's a meercat, anyway.)
Very well said.

In my song "I'm so in love I sh!t myself" I had these hopeful lines:

"Things will be at least little bit better when cannibals start using a knife and fork" and "In really sh!te times like this, don't forget there's always been really sh!te times like this" - plus "No-one would ever spit in your lovely face darlin' unless your moustache was on fire."

Even someone like you with gigantic musical knowledge won't have heard this song as it was never recorded. All the studios told me the melody wasn't quite good enough.

I've sent the lyrics to tunesmith Elton John, but haven't heard anything yet.

ButtyIoWSaint says...
3:18pm Wed 11 Jul 12

SO50 Saint wrote:
There's some depressed people on here. I'm sure NC and NA will get everything sorted by the start of the season from a Season ticket holder yet to receive his Season Ticket renewed online 2 weeks ago today. Has this been a problem for anyone else?
To all those waiting to receive your season ticket who bought them online.
Ordered mine last week online but a glitch in the system meant that only £1 was taken from my bank account for 2 season tickets. Thought I'd got lucky;) Rang them to find out when they will be sent, was told of a problem.
Sorted now though :)
If this has happened, You will need to give them your details again so they can take the correct amount.
They said that they will be contacting others that it affected.

My 2 arrived today :)

Sainty saint saint says...
3:29pm Wed 11 Jul 12

For those worrying about Saints not signing anyone, please remember that (I don't think) Liverpool have signed anyone yet this season and they're proper sh**e.

St Retford says...
3:31pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Confucious wrote:
St Retford wrote:
George, you worry too much about something you have literally no control over. Have you seen The Lion King? You should have a little dance around your front room singing "Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze / It means no worries for the rest of your days / It's our problem-free philosophy," and then have a lovely imaginary adventure with a warthog and a meerkat.

(I think it's a meercat, anyway.)
Very well said.

In my song "I'm so in love I sh!t myself" I had these hopeful lines:

"Things will be at least little bit better when cannibals start using a knife and fork" and "In really sh!te times like this, don't forget there's always been really sh!te times like this" - plus "No-one would ever spit in your lovely face darlin' unless your moustache was on fire."

Even someone like you with gigantic musical knowledge won't have heard this song as it was never recorded. All the studios told me the melody wasn't quite good enough.

I've sent the lyrics to tunesmith Elton John, but haven't heard anything yet.
I met Elton John once. I asked him if he thought aids was bad. He said he did.

And that is a true story.

: (((

george chivers says...
3:32pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Confucious wrote:
St Retford wrote:
George, you worry too much about something you have literally no control over. Have you seen The Lion King? You should have a little dance around your front room singing "Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze / It means no worries for the rest of your days / It's our problem-free philosophy," and then have a lovely imaginary adventure with a warthog and a meerkat.

(I think it's a meercat, anyway.)
Very well said.

In my song "I'm so in love I sh!t myself" I had these hopeful lines:

"Things will be at least little bit better when cannibals start using a knife and fork" and "In really sh!te times like this, don't forget there's always been really sh!te times like this" - plus "No-one would ever spit in your lovely face darlin' unless your moustache was on fire."

Even someone like you with gigantic musical knowledge won't have heard this song as it was never recorded. All the studios told me the melody wasn't quite good enough.

I've sent the lyrics to tunesmith Elton John, but haven't heard anything yet.
St. Ret. I think you have subconsciously taken one of the lines from Confucious's song changed it, and merged it into the lyric of the Lion King.

It now reads "Things will be at least a little bit better now my cannabis has started to burn."

Or perhaps you are just smoking dope.

P.S. If I didn't worry about SFC I wouldn't spend £1500 per season going to matches.

Strasbourg Saint says...
3:37pm Wed 11 Jul 12

george chivers wrote:
randre wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.
I was thinking exactly the same Strasbourg Saint, well said.
If you both prefer no new signings rather than the wrong ones, and who can say, who is good or bad until they have played. Then if the squad were to say stay as it is now, there is a good chance in my opinion, we would be relegated.

Nigel has done very well for us and I am very pleased with his efforts. But I wouldn't say some of his acquisitions are great, i.e. Fox and De Ridder. They have done a job but even for the Championship considering the number of starts and the quality of their performances and the money we paid for them, I wouldn't consider them to be good value for money because they are never going to cut in the PL.

And Forte, very poor. So it does concern me we aren't further forward in enhancing the squad and it also concerns me, given Nigel's track record how good future signings will be.

I look forward to some quality short term signings (2-3 weeks)
who will give us a decent chance of finishing say 15th in the PL.
Can't knock Forte. Came on the cheap, scored the VERY vital goals against MK Dons, didn't cut it on a regular basis: FIN!

That aside, I assume you'll be a happy bunny if the club spends, spends, spends in the hope that some make the grade. On that basis, prepare to either:
1) pay three, four or who-knows-what more for your tickets, or
2) watch the club die a la Poopey.

I for one would prefer wise investment, as and when the right player(s) become(s) available.

As for who is able to say if they're good or bad signings until they play, well, I can't, but I can trust NA who, contrary to what you say, generally gets these things right.......... Cork, Jos, Billy, Lee ......

St Retford says...
3:59pm Wed 11 Jul 12

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
St Retford wrote:
George, you worry too much about something you have literally no control over. Have you seen The Lion King? You should have a little dance around your front room singing "Hakuna Matata! Ain't no passing craze / It means no worries for the rest of your days / It's our problem-free philosophy," and then have a lovely imaginary adventure with a warthog and a meerkat.

(I think it's a meercat, anyway.)
Very well said.

In my song "I'm so in love I sh!t myself" I had these hopeful lines:

"Things will be at least little bit better when cannibals start using a knife and fork" and "In really sh!te times like this, don't forget there's always been really sh!te times like this" - plus "No-one would ever spit in your lovely face darlin' unless your moustache was on fire."

Even someone like you with gigantic musical knowledge won't have heard this song as it was never recorded. All the studios told me the melody wasn't quite good enough.

I've sent the lyrics to tunesmith Elton John, but haven't heard anything yet.
St. Ret. I think you have subconsciously taken one of the lines from Confucious's song changed it, and merged it into the lyric of the Lion King.

It now reads "Things will be at least a little bit better now my cannabis has started to burn."

Or perhaps you are just smoking dope.

P.S. If I didn't worry about SFC I wouldn't spend £1500 per season going to matches.
There are few things in this world more unpleasant than cannabis. It absolutely stinks and the only effect it has is to make people (well, me) feel really thick. I will never understand the appeal.

However, I do quite like the act of rolling and preparing a 'bifter', so as a substitute for cannabis I've developed a debilitating addiction to crispy duck pancakes.

Mush On The Beach says...
4:13pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Too many Bifters can lead to consuming too many crispy duck pancakes and manifest you into a Fatty X Ford Worker

Mush On The Beach says...
4:20pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Would have been nice to have all our signings in place early, but that’s life we will have to take the rough with the smooth. It’ll Be Alright on the Night

george chivers says...
4:29pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
randre wrote:
Strasbourg Saint wrote:
george chivers wrote:
chunkyrussell wrote:
So, basically, we've signed 1 player.
Yep. That's the size of it. With the friendlies starting in 3 days time. Annoying isn't it. And we need at least another 4. Let's hope they sort it out during the next two weeks. The thought of going into the PL with one goalkeeper and the three CD's we currently have frightens me to death. Especially looking at our first 4 games where it will be difficult for us to pick up 4 points from a possible 12.

Reading are much further down the road than Saints in terms of improving their squad.

Quick action is required.
Yes, but have Reading signed the RIGHT players? We'll see.

I would prefer no new signings than the wrong ones, or ones at the wrong price etc.

Let's just keep calm and see what unfolds.
I was thinking exactly the same Strasbourg Saint, well said.
If you both prefer no new signings rather than the wrong ones, and who can say, who is good or bad until they have played. Then if the squad were to say stay as it is now, there is a good chance in my opinion, we would be relegated.

Nigel has done very well for us and I am very pleased with his efforts. But I wouldn't say some of his acquisitions are great, i.e. Fox and De Ridder. They have done a job but even for the Championship considering the number of starts and the quality of their performances and the money we paid for them, I wouldn't consider them to be good value for money because they are never going to cut in the PL.

And Forte, very poor. So it does concern me we aren't further forward in enhancing the squad and it also concerns me, given Nigel's track record how good future signings will be.

I look forward to some quality short term signings (2-3 weeks)
who will give us a decent chance of finishing say 15th in the PL.
Can't knock Forte. Came on the cheap, scored the VERY vital goals against MK Dons, didn't cut it on a regular basis: FIN!

That aside, I assume you'll be a happy bunny if the club spends, spends, spends in the hope that some make the grade. On that basis, prepare to either:
1) pay three, four or who-knows-what more for your tickets, or
2) watch the club die a la Poopey.

I for one would prefer wise investment, as and when the right player(s) become(s) available.

As for who is able to say if they're good or bad signings until they play, well, I can't, but I can trust NA who, contrary to what you say, generally gets these things right.......... Cork, Jos, Billy, Lee ......
No, I'm not saying spend, spend, spend! What I am saying is let's get some quality in quickly so they can jell with the rest of the squad,
and we can be up to speed before our tough start to the season. I am frustrated by our slowness in the market. I am very pleased with what NA and NC have done so far for our club. But I don't have the blind faith in them that some people have.

Cork, Jos, Billy and Lee were all good in the Championship. But only time will tell if they can do the same in the P.L. I would say 2 out of the 4 won't make the grade over, say, two seasons. Probably Cork and Jos. (not quick enough).

I would welcome Steven Davies, from what I can remember of him with Fulham and Villa he would improve our midfield and has obvious leadership qualities.

I think if we wait too long to buy players in we will pay a hefty price:relegation. The PL is not the Championship. We were never going to go down from the Championship. In the PL our current squad including Rodriguez is bottom six quality.

We need to improve it ASAP to get us out of that dog fight.

Rob The Saint NOT in NZ says...
5:42pm Wed 11 Jul 12

it's not about having blind faith, just leaving to other people to make decisions on subjects over which we have no control.

As a fan, we support & trust that the right decisions will be made.

NC & NA haven't done too bad so far I think, so relax & enjoy that Premiership feeling, then get ready to sing your hearts out next month!

I have to add that I am in a very good "relaxed" mood this afternoon having just been offered a job after 7 weeks back in the country - YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time for another drink, methinks!

COYR!!!

saintmac says...
5:58pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Congrats on the new job,Rob.

slugger says...
6:57pm Wed 11 Jul 12

don't knock the green !

Strasbourg Saint says...
8:08pm Wed 11 Jul 12

saintmac wrote:
Congrats on the new job,Rob.
Yes, Rob, it's a good job you've got a job, Rob, you can now start earning a bob, Rob.

I know you're a Dan fan and Dan (who's a top man) is your fan, but now you have a bob from your job, Rob, I think, like Dan, you'll soon have Fran as a fan, man.

Oh, and a sensible response, too; saved me from saying it.

Now, time to watch the Tour de France highlights and see which French cyclists are spot-fixing their way to last place! Seeing a Brit in the yellow jersey is a real shot in the arm! Come on Bradders, do it for Britain.

ghk230473 says...
8:46pm Wed 11 Jul 12

So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.

slugger says...
9:08pm Wed 11 Jul 12

ghk230473 wrote:
So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.
2 players actually ..... at this moment in time .

Strasbourg Saint says...
9:14pm Wed 11 Jul 12

ghk230473 wrote:
So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.
You didn't have a great holiday, then?

montecristosaint says...
9:16pm Wed 11 Jul 12

South London Saint wrote:
I see people are still in panic mode. Davis deal will be fine. Buttner deal is up to Saints, it is nothing to do with the player wanting more money, its strangely enough his Dad who believes he's owed money from the deal. I still reckon it will go through.

No need to panic, I am sure everything is under control.

On the Claus situation, not the brightest thing he's ever done. Hopefully that will blow over...eventually.
His Dad??
You have to be joking where did you get that from. It is far more likely to be a former club wanting a cut of the fee or a former agent.
Buttner himself wants to come my son a saints fan met him in London and they are now friends on facebook. Alex Buttner is desperate for this deal to go through.

ghk230473 says...
9:33pm Wed 11 Jul 12

slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.
2 players actually ..... at this moment in time .
May come as a surprise but I do like to be positive!
I was hoping to have new players in and gelling together for pre-season friendlies, but nothing straight forward as a saints fan.
I don't mind going after the bigger better deal (cheaper in cortese's case) but I'm getting a feeling of false economy.
It's obvious that players will not want to leave as we are now prem league but off load em and get in what we need and that is a goalie, Center half and a no sh1t taking Mohammed I'm ard Bruce Lee Center midfielder. It ain't rocket science.

slugger says...
9:53pm Wed 11 Jul 12

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.
2 players actually ..... at this moment in time .
May come as a surprise but I do like to be positive!
I was hoping to have new players in and gelling together for pre-season friendlies, but nothing straight forward as a saints fan.
I don't mind going after the bigger better deal (cheaper in cortese's case) but I'm getting a feeling of false economy.
It's obvious that players will not want to leave as we are now prem league but off load em and get in what we need and that is a goalie, Center half and a no sh1t taking Mohammed I'm ard Bruce Lee Center midfielder. It ain't rocket science.
we'll be fine ..... agree with what we need and am sure it'll happen .

Velleity says...
10:41pm Wed 11 Jul 12

ghk230473 wrote:
slugger wrote:
ghk230473 wrote:
So 3 days to go before we start our friendlies, 1 player signed (centre forward to go with the others)! No back up goalie, fack up with season tickets and enough dead wood for bonfire night for ten years. Fail to plan, plan to fail! And there was me thinking cortese was a shrewd business man.
2 players actually ..... at this moment in time .
May come as a surprise but I do like to be positive!
I was hoping to have new players in and gelling together for pre-season friendlies, but nothing straight forward as a saints fan.
I don't mind going after the bigger better deal (cheaper in cortese's case) but I'm getting a feeling of false economy.
It's obvious that players will not want to leave as we are now prem league but off load em and get in what we need and that is a goalie, Center half and a no sh1t taking Mohammed I'm ard Bruce Lee Center midfielder. It ain't rocket science.
You NEVER try to be positive. Throughout the last transfer window you were badmouthing NA and NC. Then you fired off into your fantasy that NA would be gone by now. You really are one of the most defeatist and negative so-called supporter of the Saints. You've even had a go at how poor our support is.

By all means speak your mind but leave out the ballocks whereby you claim to be positive. it just doesn't wash. You're as pessimistic as it's possible to be.

chunkyrussell says...
10:55pm Wed 11 Jul 12

i have always assumed ghk230473 was from up the road

St Retford says...
8:02am Thu 12 Jul 12

slugger wrote:
don't knock the green !
Is this about golf?

Dyneley says...
8:59am Fri 13 Jul 12

Don't have a season ticket

Cant commute from Os each week,


Be HAPPY all Saints fans we are back where we belong in the Premier League - there can be no negatives. We will have a team good enough to compete and build come the start of the season.

COY SAINTS

ElliotP says...
5:18pm Fri 13 Jul 12

Just to let you all know that Vitesse Arnhem haven't included Buttner in the 25 man squad for pre season friendlies (apart from the game last Tuesday). Could the move still be on?

click2find

Get Adobe Flash player
About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree